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Sales Of Hitler's Mein Kampf Are Surging...

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don’t think.
- Adolf Hitler

The headline of this post is one that I am not sure how to interpret, but undoubtably marks something of significance. Personally, there have been many occasions throughout my youth, as well as my adult life, where I had a desire to read Mein Kampf. I was always curious to get into the mind of one of humanity’s greatest sociopaths. To get a glimpse of the thought process of a man capable of such cruelty and evil. To understand the types of words he used and the various psychological tactics he employed to manipulate an economically destitute and politically demoralized German population.

These feelings welled up inside of me once again back in 2008, when I feared that a financial and economic meltdown could cause the U.S. population to be thrust into the arms of a demagogue. I wanted to be able to more accurately identify the rhetoric of one of history’s more “successful” demagogue dictators in order to be able to spot similar trends should they arise in my time.

While I never got around to reading it, I did read part of one of Hitler’s speeches from before the war. It was interesting to not how he did not openly speak as a raging psychopath on his way to destroying much of Europe. Rather, he attempted to appeal to his audience as rational, passionate leader there to protect and exalt the German people back to greatness. That was the scariest thing of all.

This is what the top sales chart on iTunes’ category Politics and Current Events looks like.


At this point I’d like to remain hopeful that these sales trends spring from a similar curiosity on behalf of the population, rather than from a darker more hateful place.

From Time:

The infamous manifesto Adolf Hitler wrote while in prison after a failed coup in 1923, Mein Kampf or My Struggle, in which the dictator outlined his idea of a global Jewish conspiracy, is a surprise hit on the ebook market. While the book’s print copy sales remain stagnant, the ebook is in the top 20 on iTunes’s Politics & Events chart, next to books by Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck, the number one Propaganda & Political Psychology book on Amazon, and the 17th bestseller in the company’s Nationalism list. How could that be?


Chris Faraone explains why in a fascinating essaythat argues ebooks provide the perfect format for reading controversial material. “Mein Kampf could be following a similar trend to that of smut and romance novels,” Faraone writes. Customers may have not wanted to be seen reading the book or having it on their shelf at home, but the cheap digital copies “can be quietly perused then dropped into a folder or deleted.”


Ebook reviewers’ comments support the 50 Shades of Grey theory. “I think I waited 45 years to read Hitler’s words… I wish I had read it sooner,” wrote Steven Wagg. “Curiosity killed me to get this book,” said another reviewer. The document also functions as a warning: “People need to understand that if we do not learn from people like this, then we will fall into their traps again,” Ray D’Aguanno wrote on Amazon.

Full article here.


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Thu, 01/09/2014 - 23:35 | 4318167 IridiumRebel
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Meanwhile Obama is using Das Kapital as his play book. Communist.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 23:44 | 4318182 InjectTheVenom
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Thu, 01/09/2014 - 23:58 | 4318228 TruthInSunshine
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As mentioned previously, I am Jewish merely by the fact of my maternal ancestry, and not religious or other dogma, nor any other aspect of my life or belief system.

With that said, I do have a link into the Jewish community (many of my father's business peers are Jewish, as are some of my friends from college and work), and this has been a hot topic of discussion lately within these circles.

Nearly every Jew that I speak with about this believes that the reason why Mein Kampf is surging in terms of sales is that Americans are growing increasingly convinced that Jews, who comprise 2% of the American Population, exert a disproportionate influence over American business, finance, media (all forms) and politics (both domestic and foreign policy), and that just as importantly, that Americans believe that Jews have a stronger loyalty/allegiance to Israel than they do to the United States.

This is not my opinion nor a statement of agreement with this prevailing consensus, but my honest observation as to what the American Jewish Community believes is the driving force behind the sudden impetus behind the fascination with Hitler's Mein Kampf.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:08 | 4318250 WarriorClass
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"In what can only be described as the most flagrantly racial appointment (and clearest example of Obama's War on White America) of his career, NAACP Legal Defense Official Debo P. Adegbile has been nominated to head the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division as an assistant attorney general. [Obama Nominates Cop Killer Advocate to Head DOJ Civil Rights Division,, 1-8-14]:"

Knockout game indeed.


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:16 | 4318270 Chuck Walla
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It's just the Obama presidency owners and users manual. No more mystery than that.


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:25 | 4318290 J S Bach
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Let's be honest...


The reason that Adolf Hitler was - and is - so vilified is because he openly exposed the truth about the Money Changers of his day.  (Jesus Christ did the same thing and was summarily killed for it.)  No... I'm not comparing Hitler to Christ, but the truth is the truth.  Both men fought against the usurers who were corrupting and destroying their nations.  Both men are equally hated by those same powers that afflict us today.  


This is why books on this subject and this man are "surging".  The truth will out inevitably.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:34 | 4318317 Tasty Sandwich
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Hitler brought war prosperity to Germany.

The Roman Empire was already prosperous.

Most people care only about plenty of food and entertainment.  As long as there is plenty of food and entertainment, they won't rise up.

panem et circenses

Oh, they bitch about the NSA, Guantanamo Bay, wars, etc. on the Internet though.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:48 | 4318359 Skateboarder
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I studied Hitler's life in high school and wrote a term paper on him. If a) his mom had not had a Jewish doctor, and b) he got into art school, you would be hearing some other guy's name right now. A similar history would have transpired.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 02:02 | 4318471 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Maybe. There is also the theory that Hitler was a Rothchild agent, as his grandmother worked for Lionel Nathan Rothschild, as Adolf's father 'Alois Hitler was listed as a bastard. Hitler was a needed tool to create the conditions to found the nation Israel, and the fear to drive Jews globally to move there. The rise of this book, and the comment from TruthInSunshine about how jews feel that they are being blamed, is a sign that new changes are in play. Someone is trying to trigger fear, and draw more Jews back to Israel. For the record, I have nothing against Jews, and I think this ongoing phenomenon is unknown to the entire Jewish community. There are rumors that the House of Saud in Saudi Arabia are Jewish, which is why the guardians of Mecca are allies with Israel. Read up on Albert Pike, and see how some of these events seem to line up. Might not be fact, but it's a hell of a read. 

Slightly over the top, but outlines the Hitler bastard details well.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 02:34 | 4318509 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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"Today, Frday August 12, 1921, a great public mass meeting takes place at the Haufbrauhaus.  Speaker Herr Adolf Hitler about: THE PROTEST AGAINST RISING PRICES, A JEWISH SWINDLE"   MEIN KAMPF.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 03:24 | 4318574 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:05 | 4318616 Richard Chesler
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Obozo brings out the "best" in people.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:43 | 4318640 zhandax
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"Meanwhile Obama is using Das Kapital as his play book. Communist."

No, he is using 'The new Fascism" by Jamie and Lloyd.  Written on the fly, and the WH copy was probably left by dubya.  Copyright Rothschild Scourge, 1815.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 05:28 | 4318668 Popo
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The most important thing about Germany which has been systematically erased from the history books (history is written by the winners, afterall) is the *incredible* economic success of Germany in the mid 1930's.    Germany had no gold (after WW1) and invented a labor-based unit of currency called the "Mark".  Each unit represented an hour of labor.  The currency worked so well, that to this day the fastest economic growth in recorded history is Germany in the run up to the war (which they didn't know then).  Ultimately, Germany told the BoE to stick it's gold-based debt up it's ass and they created a new, more valuable currency backed by the only thing they had left:  The sweat of their brow.   Germany's growth freaked the hell out of the English who *thought* they had Germany under their thumb for debt repayment. The Bank of England effectively embargoed Germany and attempted to cut them off from their trading partners.   Germany said "fuck off" and used a barter system to trade it's tech (engines, printing equipment, mechanical engineering, aircraft,  cars, etc.).  As Germany was increasingly cut off from it's trading partners via English pressure, the road to war was paved before them.  I'm not in any way forgiving or condoning the atrocities Germany committed on minorities including gays, gypsies and jews -- or the massacre of it's own youth by sending their own 12 year olds to be slaughtered in battle.  But there is a lesson which has been lost in history, and the proof has been successfully buried by us:  Germany told the banking cartel to fuck off and the results were extraordinary.  Needless to say, war followed.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 05:37 | 4318679 zhandax
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While I would support the concept that any war resulting from telling the bankers to fuck off is was a war worth fighting, may I suggest that certain political baggage may make such support unpalatable?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 05:49 | 4318682 Popo
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I agree.. which is why history has been so easily re-written.   And of course, it's more complicated than just "telling the bankers to fuck off".   There was the whole Russo-German non-agression treaty which allowed them to start dividing up Poland, that also freaked the English out.  (The English elites were terrified of Stalin at the time).   

My point simply is that very few Westerners are ever taught about Germany in the mid 1930's.  Almost no one is taught about the German economic miracle of the 30's, or the role of the English banking system in crushing Germany.  One must remember that England at the time still carried much of it's prior colonialist mindset of oppressing foreign nations into "service".  Germany was being crushed economically by British imperialist policy, and Germany devised a monetary policy solution that not only worked, but created one of the most successful economic climates in history.  This is important.  Europeans today are simply taught that the war "started" when Germany invaded Poland.   (As if that event came out of nowhere.  It didn't.)  Germany was forced between a rock and a hard place, and created a solution which radically tipped the global economy in their favor... and the rest is history.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 05:58 | 4318686 zhandax
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Actually you are referring to the post-Weimar 20's after the emergence of the rentermark.  This "not only worked, but created one of the most successful economic climates in history" and was concurrent with the beer hall putsch (1923), which resulted in Hitler going to jail.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 05:59 | 4318694 Popo
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The rentermark as far as I know was still gold based in the 20's.  It wasn't until the 30's when German currency was taken off the gold standard (again).   The real economic growth miracle started in '33.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 06:18 | 4318700 zhandax
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Popo, you have a ten-year gap in your timeline. Salutations, but I still have to deal with Friday in about 5 hours.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 07:52 | 4318751 tradewithdave
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... and I thought the rising interest was because Xtranormal shut down those bear videos so everyone was having to use the Hitler videos to make their points.  Go figure. 

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 08:48 | 4318825 kralizec
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Nomination for most naive intro on ZH:

"We remain hopeful that these sales trends spring from a curiosity on behalf of the population, rather than from a darker more hateful place."

Too late.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:41 | 4321259 dogbreath
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It doesn't help that the book is found in the discount bin at Chapters/Amazon and the university book stare

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 08:48 | 4318822 SWRichmond
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Popo, you couldn't be more wrong.  WHile the Germans did work hard, the entire system was built on feet of clay: MEFO Bills.

You must read about Hjalmar Shchacht and his use of MEFO Bills.  In short, the entire edifice was built on a monumemental amount of leverage.  A kind of bastardized real bills doctrine, where the bills were't really real, and where the total number in circulation was a state secret, this leverage was used internally, reserving precious hard currency for use in external trade only where necessary.  Schacht's MEFO bills enabled Germany to spend much more on its military than was allowed under Versaille.  According to Wiki, there were 12 Billion Reichsmarks of MEFO bill credit issued on 1 Million Reichsmarks capital.

Following are excepts from Schacht's very careful testimony at his Nuremberug trial:

SCHACHT: It goes without saying that in normal times and under normal economic conditions such means as mefo bills would not have been resorted to. But if there is an emergency, then it has always been customary, and it has always been a policy recommended by all experts, that the issuing bank should furnish cheap money and credits so that the economic system can, in turn, continue to function.

Mefo bills, of course, were a thoroughly risky operation, but they were absolutely not risky if they were connected with a reasonable financial procedure and to prove this I would say that if Herr Hitler, after 1937, had used the accruing funds to pay back the mefo bills, as had been intended-the money was available-then this system would have come to its end just as smoothly as I had put it in operation. But Herr Hitler preferred simply to refuse to pay the bills back, and instead to invest the money in further armament. I could not foresee that someone would break his word in such a matter too, a purely business matter.

SCHACHT: The mefo bills as such, as far as rearmament was concerned, had of course no connection with the question of secrecy, for the mefo bills were used to pay every supplier. And there were, of course, hundreds and thousands of small and big suppliers all over the country.

Apart from that, before they could be taken to the Reichsbank, the mefo bills circulated among the public for at least 3 months and the suppliers who required cash used the mefo bills to discount them in their banks or to have advances made on the strength of them, so that all banks participated in this system.

But I should like to add also that all the mefo bills, which were taken up by the Reichsbank, were listed on the bill account of the Reichsbank. Furthermore, I should like to say that the keeping secret of State expenditure-and armament expenditures were State expenditure-was not a matter for the President of the Reichsbank but an affair concerning the Reich Minister of Finance. If the Reich Minister of Finance did not publish the guarantees which he had accepted for the mefo bills, then that was his affair and not mine. I am not responsible for that. The responsibility for that lies with the Reich Minister of Finance.

All of this should sound eerily familiar.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:33 | 4318940 Blame Crash
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@ Popo

What a load!

Hitler legacy wasn't "1930's Germany" it was the smouldering ruins of "1945 Germany".

Go ahead and bullshit yourselves all you want. The truth is Hitler was a hundred times more toxic to Germany than the Jews ever were.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 11:14 | 4319363 Rafferty
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This is absolutely true.  If you really dig you'll see that this achievement had the central bankers in a panic.  Germany's fate was sealed when they got rid of these parasites, just as was Libya's.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 07:42 | 4318743 Headbanger
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This is exactly what I predicted would happen as the economy got worse for the 99%.

They're sick of all the "feel good" bullshit politics and want something solid to believe in again.

Hitler is not the answer however!   And Mein Kampf is just an insane rant by a frustrated, hateful  artist opera fan who saw the horrors of WW I as a courier running among the trenches.

But it's true that if it wasn't Hitler, it would have been somebody else who did much the same thing as him.  Himmler, Goering, Goebels, would have all still been there supporting whoever else was Der Fuhrer. And thus there still would have been the SS founded by Himmler and all the Nazi propaganda by Goebels. 

The only blessing that is was Hitler was it wasn't somebody else who was a lot more intelligent about fighting a modern war.

So go ahead and read Mein Kampf so all will know to recognize the insanity of another Hitler that comes along to take advantage of the mess in this country and the world!

And if you do read Mein Kampf, you must also watch "The Downfall" to see the end result of such insanity!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:02 | 4318858 Sean7k
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Disinformation regarding Hitler and the Zionists remains the norm. One, Hitler was very intelllgent ( 140IQ) and a very capable war commander, responsible for many of Germany's victories in the war. Had his generals not spent their time failng to cary out orders and fighting amongst themselves for glory (typical of all commaders), the war would have been very different. See "Hitler's War".

We are also never told of the jewish problem, that the world congress declared war against Hitler's Germany in 1933 and blessed the use of assasination and economc sabotage by all their people. Like Al Queda, if it was on the ground in the US. How would we deal with it?

We are not told of te slaugther of woman and children from Churchills bombing campaigns throughout the war or of the US starting in 1943. We hear nothing of the Russian holocaust admnstered by the jewish bolsheviks that Hitler feared so much.

No, we get the Zionist version, that paints the jews as the long suffering victims of a mad man, a man by the way whose "solution" was to move the jews to another area outside of Europe- not kill them. There are plenty of confirmed instances of Hitler saving jews.

The Zionists have made it difficult to discover the truth of history, but their actions always became apparent throgh their excesses of behavior. This is probably just a reflection of that excess. Htler wanted to make Germany great again and he knew who his enemies were. He seems to be much smarter than most Americans or their leaders and not nearly as compromsed.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:31 | 4318926 Headbanger
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Do the rest of you see what I mean now that this terrible economy is leading the desperate and dumbed down sheeple to believe in this crap to cast blame and have something to save them!?

It's only going to get worse.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:43 | 4319005 Sean7k
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That's the best you got? What a maroon.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 11:16 | 4319369 Rafferty
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 And Mein Kampf is just an insane rant by a frustrated, hateful  artist.

Either you have not read it or you are a disnformation agent.  Simple as that.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 02:44 | 4318525 Skateboarder
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My knowledge came from books from the library. I remember trying to seek out the oldest, most legit and unbiased sources. Of course, whatever I read was probably all bullshit and Addie H-man was more than likely a bastard Rothschild grandson as the conspiracy article writes.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 03:09 | 4318554 Tijuana Donkey Show
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If you read about the Rothchilds, Hitler is a key part of their alleged plan. People can up/down vote us, I'm not trying to say it's 100% true, or even true. The stories and alignment of events leads to a incredible read that blows away any fiction books in the best seller lists. That article is a great read. people are quick to look at everything as non-fiction. As fiction, that article beats the "Da Vinci Code" BS. 

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:58 | 4318655 zhandax
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Skateboarder, hats off to ya for seeking the oldest versions.  You are on the right track.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 06:10 | 4318693 Cap Matifou
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This is the time and age where you can walk the whole way back and listen to historical recordings without the omissions.

The Hitler Speech They Don't Want You To Hear
(Declaration of war to America)

And his "greatest sin" is also rarely mentioned

What was Hitler's Unforgivable Sin?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 08:56 | 4318842 disabledvet
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many in prominent figures in the Jewish community warned against Zionism and the creation of Israel as a goal of their's. Now they really would have to act as "public figures"...but in defense of who's interest? "Bad for business" they warned.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:49 | 4318360 TruthInSunshine
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Only people ignorant of history fail to understand the similarities regarding the Jewish interaction with "the native" population in Ancient Egypt, Rome, post-WWI Germany or a myriad of other geographic areas or sovereign nations in terms of relative power & prosperity during both good and (especially) bad times.

There's an entire, legitimate question of whether correlation equaled causation that begs honest academic debate, but this topic is verboten due to oppression of even the finest in academia who dare speak of such matters, such as
John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt (who were literally chased out of the U.S. and well deserved tenured positions at prestigious universities by the likes of the ADL & Alan "You're ALL Anti-Semites" Dershowitz).

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:55 | 4318370 Tasty Sandwich
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Well, perhaps they really are the Chosen People then.

My parents are Catholic. 

I went to a Jesuit high school and don't believe in god.

Human beings are tribal.  Some tribes are better at conquering than others, regardless of what unites them.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:02 | 4318376 TruthInSunshine
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The suppression of the debate I mentioned above does a disservice to all, and ironically (and sadly), likely Jews most of all.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:13 | 4318388 LetThemEatRand
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I've met a few black people who fucking hate whitey for our relative wealth.  Meanwhile, there are lots of whites who live in fucking trailers as their are Jews who live likewise.  Funny.  I don't respect blacks who hate whites, nor do I respect Western Europeans who hate Jews.  Fuck bankers and oligarchs, of whatever flavor.  The tribal racist shit must go.   Or shall we play "which mass murderer do you support?"  Fucking sheep and their fucking hatred for things different.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:17 | 4318410 TruthInSunshine
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Let us not dance lightly upon the eggs, but crush their shells with our boot heels.

Simply stated, this entire debate centers around whether or not Jews exhibit a historical pattern of behavior, born of their culture, affinities and predilections, of overtaking any particular nation's levers of true power, whether centered around commerce, finance, judicial systems, legislative bodies, etc., and whether they exert disproportionate & undue leverage upon these machinations, and do so in a manner that resets the table of what may have once been equity based on merit into a rigged game that favors Jews.

I realize many will shudder at the expression of such a thought put forth so directly, but regardless of their opinion or position, and if they are honest intellectually, they will inevitably conclude that I am merely stating the core of what has been repeated historical strife in simple terms.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:49 | 4318430 LetThemEatRand
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I do not shudder.  You hit the nail.  The other nail is that when one group is bettered by another they think violence and hatred is the answer.  How about beating "them" at their game.  Are we not up to it?  Or do we need O'Hitler phones?

End the Fed.

End Globilization.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:39 | 4318645 Ghordius
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LTER, "End Globalization"? the "thing" that makes cotton from the US travel several times around the world until it comes back as T-shirts so cheap that some don't even wash them anymore?

then you are talking about tariffs (you know, that stuff that financed the US for the first 100 years)

then you are asking for an end of unlimited free trade

problem is, do you know anybody around you that is against free trade?

just bringing the perspective from the real economy. the "end the FED" is a completely different thing, regarding the financial economy. connected, yes, yet currently living an own life, thanks to the vagaries of the global reserve currency

yet globalization as such starts with free trade. at this point I have to note how funny the "anti-globalists" are that use a word that has no clear definition and claim that Jews and Jesuits have plans since hundreds of years regarding it

meanwhile first the British Empire and afterwards the American Empire are pushing globalization since now over two hundred years. and that's a simple fact

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 05:34 | 4318677 lewy14
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€ => globalization on one continent

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 07:36 | 4318735 Ghordius
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let's see

trade, internal markets: China, 1'200 millions; India, 1'000 millions; EU, 500 millions; US, 300 millions

currency zones: Yuan, 1'200 millions; Rupee, 1'000 millions; EUR, 350 millions; USD, nearly the whole world


is it globalization if it's regional? just asking


or are you asking for 50 currency and trade zones in China, India and the US?

which brings the discussion back to free trade and tariffs

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:16 | 4321651 lewy14
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"Europe" is a fiction.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 06:45 | 4318715 Spanky
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First the English, and now the American bankers (since 1900), want market access to China. All they see are over a billion consumers that want a western lifestyle. It's growth don't cha know... And they want their hand firmly on the ME oil spigot, just in case the mandarins get uppity...

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 08:37 | 4318801 Oldwood
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Even when settlers sailed thousands of miles on uncharted seas, they built walls around themselves upon landing for some level of protection. That is not to say the did not trade outside of their walls, but there was definite "protectionism". Free trade on a global level forces us to equate wages and living standards with the worst poverty holes in the world. Business will seek these low cost resources at every opportunity, so it is up to society, either collectively or individually to make choices which serve our best long term interests. We have done neither by allowing government to favor business over the people and "we the people" have sought out the cheapest price for toys that distract us from our very future. I believe in protectionism as a means of protecting our jobs and as a means of funding our government. Instead we impose tarrifs on our domestic producers through every means of taxation and regulation, while imposing none on our foreign competitors. And we wonder where the jobs went.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 02:19 | 4318490 Tijuana Donkey Show
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For the record, let's be clear. There are Jews, and there are Zionists. Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews. Zionists are Christians and Jews who want to build the nation of Israel to fullfil some sort of holy empire/end of days scheme. The Zionists are driving an agenda, and most of us are unwitting participants.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 02:42 | 4318521 Rock On Roger
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As above, so below.

We have to go way back to see the future.

For which god did Abram ride?


Stack On

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 03:21 | 4318571 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Abram rode for the change of the god of the Phoenicians. The Phoenicians worshiped a range of gods, including Ba'al The story of Abraham and Issac comes from the practice of the cult of Ba'al, a fertility cult, where the first born child was sacrificed. The story of Hannibal with the Roman wars, as the Carthaginians were Phoenicians, Hannibal's father looks to sacrifice him just as the story of Issac, but passes him over when Hannibal vows to be a lifelong enemy of the Romans. The Phoenician language was the ancestor of Hebrew, and idea of an unnamable name, etc, are similar to the ancient Israelites. Abram rode with someone outside the main ring, and won in the long run.

Child sacrifice


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 03:57 | 4318608 Rock On Roger
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Nope, you've got your timing all mixed up.

Abram was of Ur.


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:59 | 4321320 Tijuana Donkey Show
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From Ur to the Levant. Aslo, there is no clear record of the splits of the ancients.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 03:38 | 4318594 dark pools of soros
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Have you read Ro'i Tov ?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:05 | 4318615 Rock On Roger
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No, haven't heard of until now, I googled, I may try it, I may be able to learn more of life. Always looking for something new.


Stack On

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 07:15 | 4318738 negative rates
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Should I?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 03:57 | 4318609 lewy14
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Jebus Crubist TIS you realize Hitler would have gassed your self-hating ass regardless of your professed "non Jewishness", right?

Sounds like you think you would have had it coming. Or at least that should be "debated". 

You can go get busy with your boot heel fetish now.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:13 | 4318402 Tasty Sandwich
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Nuke Israel for all I care.

However, from a strategic standpoint it makes sense to be allied with them in the context of Empire.

Yeah, there are a lot of Jews in government, etc.  I acknowledge that.  I just think it isn't relevant.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:26 | 4318424 TruthInSunshine
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I think your assessment is incorrect, but more importantly, irrelevant.

If the aim of this debate is to defuse the type of hatred that has led to so much human suffering and bloody conflict, and to prevent further hatred and bloody conflict, there must be an open discussion that addresses all grievances (real or imagined) of those who plant a flag and claim a stake in the corpus of history.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:36 | 4318443 Tasty Sandwich
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You fail to understand human nature.

Since there have been humans, there has been human suffering and bloody conflict.

You and I sit here in our heated (or if you're at the beach house, air conditioned) rooms on our computing devices assembled by slaves.

Philosophically I agree with you.

A Game Called "Countries"

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:04 | 4318865 disabledvet
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Hitler had a plan to take Iraq. America has a plan to hold onto it. And Afghanistan as well. "We all have a plan" but having "peace" is a whole 'nother thing. Americans came here to get away from all this.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:22 | 4318871 Ranger4564
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You, like many others, misrepresent historic conditions as Human Nature. There are a lot of varieties of human intentions and reactions, and therefore a broad range of human nature. Stop pushing your shortcomings on all of humanity. It's the greedy bastard who's the first to profess that greed is an intrinsic part of human nature... no, the greedy create the conditions which enforce that circumstance on civilization and then point out how every person follows said pattern. It's the coward who is the first to point out that the authoritarians have killed off all previous opposition, so don't say anything or else.

Get out of the conversation if all you want to do is dismiss any viable debate by saying there is no merit. Your debate has already been decided, you can continue to mimic history. Some of us want to break those chains, not philosophically, practically.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 02:38 | 4318514 Babalooee
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Interesting too the role the holocaust played in the formation of current Israel. Every action spawns reaction and the intense violence and hatred imbedded in the final solution gives brith to a nation violently aggresive in its defense. The dark, drawn, long faced  jews of the European ghettos regroup as a hair trigger clan with the very clear message that this time they're not going down alone. Humans' only real hope is breaking the long repeated chains of hatred and retribution; especially as the playing field keeps shrinking and the weapons keep growing. 

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:12 | 4318623 Oracle of Kypseli
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Rivalries and hatred is inherent in man. No matter ethnicity, religion or other differences. People kill in football games and kids bully the weak. The problem comes when adversity brings out the blame game. Ireland is a good example of Christian against Christian of a different denomination. 

Add to that the political ploy of divide and conquer and you got yourself an explosive cocktail. The inability of the common man to fight crimes against humanity commited on a daily basis by TPTB creates the environment to breed hatred. bigotry, scapegoating and other similar sentiments.

In the end, the earth will survive, but overpopulation and competition for a piece of land, the last piece of bread, or the latest i-gadget will keep going on until a divine intervention will bring things into a sustainable equilibrium. 

Bear in mind also that without a healthy competition there is no progress.


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:24 | 4318904 Sean7k
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You could not be more wrong or confused. 

An environment can be created that causes man to act in this manner: America's militarism, European colonialism, Jewish Bolsevism, Muslim/Israeli terrorism etc. 

Man reacts to his environment in order to survive and prosper. You fail to consider the cause of our environment and thus fall into a very well laid intellectual trap.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:57 | 4320445 Ranger4564
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Precisely. I was tempted to reply also, but I had to get to work.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:10 | 4318877 Ranger4564
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TIS, you're doing a great job in getting to the heart of the matter. Very well stated also.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 03:22 | 4318573 JackWills
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A well organized group can hold back a much larger force, the Spartans ie 300 being a perfect example.  You do not need to be the majority in a country, just a well organized and oiled organization to make a big impact.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 06:32 | 4318711 Spanky
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For... well stated.

Only people ignorant of history fail to understand the similarities regarding the Jewish interaction with "the native" population in Ancient Egypt, Rome, post-WWI Germany or a myriad of other geographic areas or sovereign nations in terms of relative power & prosperity during both good and (especially) bad times. -- TruthInSunshine

Moses was an advisor to Pharoh.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:53 | 4318364 Son of Captain Nemo
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Plenty of food and entertainment but at what price?...

If the people of the U.S. are channeling Hitler that would be the biggest laugh of all!  The only thing the U.S. military is good at is destabilizing Countries and throwing them into chaos much like ourselves

We haven't won a war since we took on the author of Mein Kampf?!!!  The only reason we won was because we had Russia pulling on it from the other side. 

Any volunteers out there to pick a book for inspiration when we take on the likes of China and Russia togehter with our NATO buddies guarding our six'?

Please provide the list...

Too funny!


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:00 | 4318378 Tasty Sandwich
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Not channeling Hitler.

Modern day Roman Empire.

I think the wars waged since then were not seeking a military victory in the traditional sense.

Look at the US trade deficit and the US current account deficit.

The military is used to force the world to keep accepting dollars for real goods and services.

The people who design and build the planes, bombs, etc. have jobs.


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:46 | 4318454 the0ther
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As Krugman said, the USD is backed by guns.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 08:51 | 4318831 flapdoodle
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We haven't won a war since we took on the author of Mein Kampf?!!!

Not true! We handily won the invasion of Grenada in 1983!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:25 | 4318416 walküre
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JS Bach, the truth is that the character "Jesus" was an invention of Roman Emperor Vespasian in order to quell the uprisings by Jews in Judea. Quite simple actually to create a piece of propaganda vaguely based on the enemy's believes but with a more peaceful message.

Dividing and conquering the Jews with "Jesus" the messiah who fought Jewish political and spiritual establishment with their own scripture every step of the way but just had to have that lunch with the tax collector and make sure the oppressed Jews would never forget to render to Caesar's what is Caesar's, applicable to Jews and the newly created sect of Christians.

Brilliant piece of political propaganda considering it was effective 2000 years ago and allowed Rome to expand its empire AND eventually by adopting Christianity (the worship of a Roman Emperor), it eternalized Rome and the empire. It conquered the world in many ways that Roman Emperors could have only dreamed of. The beneficiaries of course the Romans (Church) and the Jews who thrived throughout history in a weird symbiotic relationship.

So, when the character "Jesus" goes into the temple to overthrow the table of the money changers it is really the Roman Emperor who is disgusted with the practice of usury.

As for Adolf Hitler, let's just say he was "enlightened" enough to understand why Germany was played the hand to lose the First World War which started a year after the creation of the Fed and under very speculative circumstances.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:46 | 4319023 Calmyourself
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BS, Tacitus then jumped on board the "conspiracy " writing about Jesus in a historical context including the cruxificion... 


"The Romans disgusted with the practice of usuary"  LOL

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:24 | 4318632 PT
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JS Bach:  True.

In my case, I read Mein Kampf a couple of years ago just so I could get the words straight from the horse's mouth.  Interestingly, if the Japanese had have read Mein Kampf, perhaps they would have questioned an alliance with Hitler ( or maybe they saw him as a useful tool and thought they could discard him as necessary, or maybe they were backed into a corner.  I Don't know).  Hitler clearly states his "racial supremacy heirarchy" in his book and the Japs were not near the top of the list.

I wanted to know why, of all the people in the world, Hitler chose to pick on the Jews.  History seems to be quite unimaginative in this respect.  I left the book convinced that Hitler could make the same speeches today and get basically the same result, but I do wish / hope that this time they start with the richest bankers, not the closest, most convenient Jews.

The translator's introduction was also useful, though he did seem to spend way too much time apologising for publishing "such an evil book".  No need to apologise.  When problems are swept under the rug, just like last time, instead of being properly dealt with out in the light, the new solutions will equate to the old solutions.  If you don't want a new Hitler, let people understand the old Hitler, otherwise his mistakes will be repeated.

All in all, an interesting 150 page book.  Shame it was diluted into 600+ pages!
Check out his concern about young boys wearing long sleeves in summer!  ( Basically, "They're boys, they need to play rough and grow up strong, they should be wearing short sleeves in summer.")   I laugh at that because alot of my work requires me to wear long sleeves while working in the heat (for my own protection, of course).  I didn't realize Germans had a similar problem ~ 80 years ago!

Wish I could discuss more, but unfortunately I'm running late again.


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 07:14 | 4318736 negative rates
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Truth will win out, but so does the collapse of a counrty.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:11 | 4318878 Offthebeach
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Hitler and Stracht ( ? ) were the biggest fiat money changers of the first half of the 20th. They wrote all sorts of notes and would of gone all Weimar inflation as their credit had been cut off by London/NY for default but then Hitler started the war. He then could steal resources he needed to keep the Domestic economy humming.

Germans and Europe paid in blood for German political mal investment in the Nazis.

After the fiat political boom comes the bust. Hitler wanted the war and belived it was an investment.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 12:32 | 4319684 moneybots
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"The reason that Adolf Hitler was - and is - so vilified is because he openly exposed the truth about the Money Changers of his day."


Not even close.


40 million people were killed after Hitler attacked Poland on September 1, 1939.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 12:38 | 4319717 TheReplacement
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Hitler killed millions of people who had nothing to do with any of the stuff you say he exposed.

If you were to murder a few million people there is no doubt that you would inadvertantly kill some bad people.  Even a broken clock is right twice a day.  That doesn't make the clock useful nor the mass murder justified.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 16:16 | 4320730 MedTechEntrepreneur
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J S BACh--  Like I used to tell that anti-Jew Francis_Sawyer...You dont like the cheese popes? Blame your ancestors.  It was the church who made the Jews get into usury since it was forbidden  by the church members to engage in it. can thank the church.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:10 | 4318256 CrazyCooter
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I was going to post a snarky comment about the surge in government employment, but the likely explanation is a bunch of poor, out of work Joes.

This is the core failing of humanity; not understanding how the world really works. If they did, the situation wouldn't exist. Instead, we have to live through this cyclic disaster every so many generations.

Obama has three years ... if that scares you, just think about what comes next.



Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:21 | 4318630 Oracle of Kypseli
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I am thinking that they may not be elections in 2016. O' will pull a Chavez on the US. He has definitely laid out the ground work with reshaping the military and dividing the country, as well as political appoitments to institutions which issue their own regulations without congressional approval. 

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:28 | 4318635 PT
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You can't ignore him forever.  If Hitler's problems are swept under the rug, then eventually people will look to Hitler's solutions as the answer.  Deal with Hitler's problems properly and we'll do alright.  Ignore Hitler and we will repeat him.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:11 | 4318260 satoshi101
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I hear you bro, I have seen this coming forever here in the USA,

BUT I think this surging MEIN-KAMPF is bullshit, the book is unreadable, and I can guarantee that even if some nimrods buy they can't read it, have you read it? If you have then you know as I its convoluted bullshit.


HITLER demonized the JEWS cuz they had money, and in ALL politics in history when you plan to raise a WAR you need finance, so HITLER had to rob somebody, so he robbed jews of their teeth, homes, art, ... and you know the rest; But he also did gays, and gypsy's, and a lot of other people in his quest to finance the brown-shirts and his take-over of the government.


Here in the USA its the same DEAL, JEWS will be DEMONIZED to ROB them and it starts right here on ZH, everytime you hear somebody say "BANKER", or 1% these are code for JEW,  I know this and I know you know this.


What can be done? I think IMHO that good left/right Jewish folk should run like hell from AmeriKKKA just like the smart ones did in Germany post 1932.

This is a slow motion operation, and I don't see anyway it can be changed,

When the masses finally figure out they have been fucked the "BUSH/CHENY/CLINTON" tribes will have cleverly led the scapegoat directly to the 1%,...

We know the average little right/left Jewish person is not RICH, ... but the narrative say's so, just like the jackass today advocating kids be sent with AR-15's to the HAMPTON's, as if just living there made you an enemy of something.


There is no specific targettable enemy in this game, the enemy is US, you need only look in the mirror if you want to kill someone, or harm someone.



Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:16 | 4318269 Robinhood
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Fuck you Nut bag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:27 | 4318427 MsCreant
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When I say banker, I mean banker, BITCH! I don't use code words.

End of it.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:48 | 4319031 PT
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satoshi101 re "the book is unreadable".  Yep, like I said, an interesting 150 pages but stretched into 600+ pages.  Got very tedious at times, but every so often he would come up with some interesting idea.  (That doesn't mean I agree with his ideas, it just means that it kept me from sleeping through the whole book).  He criticized the Jews umpteen times before he explained why he didn't like them.  I agree that a lot of people who buy it won't bother reading the whole thing.  I'm quite sure that most who bought it within the first ten years of publication (and later) never finished reading it.

I feel it may have been more of a symbol than a way of distributing information, sort of along the lines of "Well Hitler wrote this big, dull book so he must know what he was talking about.", or "I'm a devoted Nazi because I got a copy of Mein Kampf". 

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:12 | 4318262 bobert
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Generalizations can be less than helpful.

There are so many different types of jews.

Religious (from liberal to orthodox).



Zionists (political).


I'm not Jewish but share one thing in common with you. Let's end the fed!

Best regards.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:15 | 4318267 Robinhood
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I use to respect you but this post has lost that. Just posting this speaks all about you.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:28 | 4318297 Skateboarder
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Get outta here ja little faggot. (for change of respect based on race and not character)

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:30 | 4318434 MsCreant
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I don't normally support "faggot" talk, I know some gay folks I really like and don't want to be a hypotwit.

In this context, I get it, I feel it. I marked this up. Little fucking weak assed...

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 02:23 | 4318495 Skateboarder
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Marked you up as well MsCreant. I am very judicious in my use of that word. Homeboy above sure did earn it.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:39 | 4318305 IridiumRebel
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Why? He was honest and provided excellent insight. I have many Jewish friends. I try to ignore the religion for the actions of the person. I think he is right. Most Jewish people are hard working folks who are good people. Downvote away, but the evil Banksters come in all religious Flavors.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:27 | 4318428 El Vaquero
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A lot of Jews are really smart, and they are not exempt from producing sociopaths.  What happens when you get a few really smart sociopaths that came from one particular group?  All of them get a bad reputation in some circles.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 08:47 | 4318824 Oldwood
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Exactly! Look at the damage Obama is doing to the black people. Race relations will be set back fifty years.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:10 | 4318875 shovelhead
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Like the Mafia?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:17 | 4318272 rubiconsolutions
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Does anyone know if Bill Ayers wrote this book too?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 03:19 | 4318566 BandGap
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Thank you, a break from the bullshit was needed.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:18 | 4318273 notadouche
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I would think that anyone ordereing this book is immediately put on some sort of government watch list.  Is that paranoia on my part?  

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:29 | 4318303 bobert
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It's only paranoia if it isn't real.

Now what do you think?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:35 | 4318324 notadouche
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"I think the helicopters have been follwoing me all day" or in other words, yeah I could see so called "radical reading" getting you put on some list is at the very least a likely scenario.  

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:49 | 4318362 bobert
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Yup, could be.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:43 | 4318448 Zero Point
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If you're not on the list by now, you need a punch in the face.

Actually.... You read ZH, so you're probably on the list.

Carry on.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:02 | 4318611 e_goldstein
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If they have a recruiting list, then yes.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:07 | 4318394 indio007
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Jew by ancestry? Nope. Stop conflating religion with race.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 03:21 | 4318570 BandGap
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This is all as intended, just as it's been through history.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:55 | 4318466 Seize Mars
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I appreciate your honest and forthright comments.

I am technically what you might call a WASP, (but I am no Thurston Howell III).

I think it is time for honest and real public dialogue about the issues you have raised. Right now, in the status quo, if people want to talk about these issues, there are immediate and hysterical cries of antisemitism. It's got to stop. We need real, honest dialogue.

Anyways thanks for your comments.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 04:20 | 4318628 vulcanraven
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Fri, 01/10/2014 - 02:56 | 4318527 bigkahuna
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If you are Jewish, or whatever other person could be targeted (and you live on my block - or maybe not) and they come for you - they are going to have to kill us both right there, right then. If they try, they themselves will be lucky to live.


Never let the thug oppress you-


(power to the people)

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 06:52 | 4318723 CoonT
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Well that settles it; I'm ordering that book today! After years of sitting on the fence, it's finally time to scrape off the thick, matte coating and see what's really underneath.

Growing up in a "pro-Isreal, conservative household, I have still spent my entire life watching what Hollywood has said, and what Wall street has done. And after seeing and hearing years of this stuff (from Masada to present day and everything in between) err, I have some questions!

How have they managed to be "The poor, persecuted people" EVERY TIME! I mean, C'mon now; has someone been tinkering with the history books, or what? And why does everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, seem to "Hate the Jews?" The story unfolding in the USSA right now, seems to be one that has been set on "historical repeat" for quite some time now.

Something really stinks about the whole "Jewish story" and I say it's time for a looksie into this dark little closet. What's that saying about wanting to find out who your masters are, by finding out who you aren't allowed to critisize, or something to that effect?


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:04 | 4318864 Oldwood
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Ultimately I think everyone hates a winner unless they were just lucky. I mean to actually work for success, to plot and plan and scheme for it, is something most would not do either on moral grounds or just because they are too damn lazy. People will see an actor or performer or even athlete as someone who was just lucky or talented. But business people skimp and save and sometimes cheat to get ahead and are perceived as evil. In union shops hard work, productivity and performance are seen as a negative behavior. To compete on the grounds of work is an undesirable trait. No one seems to have any problem with singers, actors and sports stars who make hundreds of millions of dollars, largely from middle and lower income people, yet become unhinged at the thought that a business person make similar income. If Jews are smarter, work harder, organize their efforts for success, based on the fact that most others do not, they are obviousy evil and should be destroyed, right? The question really is, how many would rather just murder the "winners" to lower the grading curve?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:17 | 4318893 shovelhead
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You would really be surprised to find the answer to that.

This is why Envy is listed as one of the 7 deadlies.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:07 | 4321165 supermaxedout
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Highlight: Out of Khazaria—Evidence for “Jewish
Genome” Lacking

The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:22 | 4318900 jerry_theking_lawler
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Well, is it the truth? or not? (that Jewish people, which is 2% of population, are disporportionately involved in media, .gov, business, finance, politics?)

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 13:10 | 4319892 Rafferty
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Tricky one that. (Donning my thinking cap)

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 10:04 | 4319114 intotheblack
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I'm a Jew too. So is Bernanke, Greenspan, and a lot of people I truly detest.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:47 | 4320637 FightingtheFed
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I’ve observed that you have written some really reflective and accurate posts in regards to the subject matter and claim to be Jewish.

It’s a rare breed that possess an ability to look at their race objectively.

It’s no big deal today because the sheep are fat dumb and happy but there are enormous risks in the game they are playing and it bit them in the ass after the fall of the Weimar. However, it appears this time they are well prepared for all outcomes.

Regardless it should not be this way.


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 12:39 | 4319723 Leonardo Fibonacci2
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Did He Do It? Murdered Satmar Slumlord May Have Stolen As Much As $2 Million From Lender In Month Before Murder
Shmarya Rosenberg •

Where did all the money go?

Yesterday, a Brooklyn judge ordered murdered Satmar slumlord Menachem Stark’s attorney to provide an accounting of up to $2 million in rent money after one of Stark’s creditor told the court it may have been stolen by Stark in the month before he was killed, The Real Deal and the New York Post separately reported.

Stark and his business partner Israel “Sam” Perlmutter defaulted on a large loan used to buy 100 South Fourth Street – a 74-unit apartment building in Williamsburg, Brooklyn – and filed for bankruptcy in 2009. The pair owe the Deutsche Bank through its subsidiary German American Capital $29 million.

Stark became the property’s debtor-in-possession, meaning he managed the property while the bankruptcy case proceeded through the court.

Stark and Perlmutter are supposed to provide monthly financial reports, but allegedly have not done so since at least December 1.

In court filings yesterday German American Capital alleged that there may have been “significant unauthorized withdrawals.” The court filings also cited news reports that Stark “was in financial dire straits” when he was kidnapped outside his Williamsburg office late on January 2.

The 39-year-old slumlord’s partially burned body was found murdered in a Great neck garbage dumpster the next day.

Perlmutter, Stark’s 42-year-old partner, claims to be in fear for his life and has not been seen publicly since the murder.

Besides his real estate development and slumlording business, Stark reportedly sidelined as a loan shark, issuing short term bridge loans to fellow businessmen at high rates of interest. He allegedly was also a part of an ongoing scheme to flip real estate properties by defaulting on loans so family and friends could purchase the distressed properties – made worse by Stark’s management – at discounted prices from lenders.

But despite his questionable business dealings, Stark was beloved in hasidic community where he donated lavishly to Satmar hasidic charities.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 23:50 | 4318208 FieldingMellish
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Its clearly a thirst for insight into their Dear Leader. The current administration has been far more Fascist than Communist in its modus operandi, otherwise the bankers would be cleaning fish in Siberia (Alaska) by now.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:24 | 4318289 IridiumRebel
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I actually agree with this. You provide a good point in the meld of state and corporatism. Obama has fostered that beautifully.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 23:58 | 4318225 GeorgeHayduke
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If you think Obama is a Communist, it's pretty obvious you haven't read Das Kapital or even read the Cliff Notes.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:10 | 4318253 Buckaroo Banzai
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Of course Obama is a communist, it's completely obvious from his background and behavior. However, he is transitioning the US from National Socialism (fascism) to International Socialism (communism) so he has to make some compromises as he does so. Don't get confused.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:21 | 4318279 IridiumRebel
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I read Wallerstein instead. It was mandated for my degree. It gave a modernized version. "World-systems theory was also significantly influenced by dependency theory - a neo-Marxist explanation of development processes." As a Political Science major I had to study Marxism at length. I never read Das Kapital, but I am familiar with Marx. I studied Communist China at length as well. I find the theory fascinating and patently wrong in the fact that it utterly ignores the human desire for achievement due to the fact that it surmises all humans will accept mediocrity and state handed futility. Mr Obama has more of a penchant for socialism, but there are hints of Communism in there as well. His healthcare bill shows just how horrific the whole mentality is.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:33 | 4318319 bobert
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I don't think the POTUS has an original thought in his head.

I think you are giving him to much credit.

In my view he's a paid puppet. Who the payor is, is the real question.

Kind of sad really.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:35 | 4318326 IridiumRebel
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Funny you say that cuz I almost went back and edited it to say "and his masters". I got tied up in the Euro-Collapse article.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:14 | 4318884 Oldwood
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Their ideology does not embrace individuality. It is collective, all to serve the master ideology, therefore they are all "puppets" to a higher order. Conservative thought will never have that sense of collective thought. We will always be driven ultimately by individualism and personal responsibility. We will readily destroy our own, regardless of ideology, in pursuit in personal responsibility. For the left, there is only one sin and that is denial or defeat to the cause, to which they are all puppets. They will never attack their own for any cause, from corruption to murder, but if one disavows the "cause", they will not only be rejected but personally destroyed.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 11:05 | 4319337 bobert
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A greeny for you Oldwood. And good morning.

Yeah, the "cause."

A cause kind of like what Marx and Engel would espouse. What Krushchev called the "dictatorship of the working class." A cause that turns the natural order of things on it's head. A cause that can get you "shot" as Krushchev would say if you were purported to be in any way against the cause.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:08 | 4318387 Ballin D
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Communist and socialist are basically viewed as synonyms by most Americans. Sure theres a difference but go ask 10 people off the street and none will be able to articulate it. Rather than mock him without offering information, why dont you get off your high horse and explain to us why its "pretty obvious" to superior beings like yourself.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 03:04 | 4318548 bigkahuna
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Warning: do not mock happy fun ball.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:49 | 4318456 satoshi101
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Obama is right wing, his grandma was a right wing banker part of the CABAL, she raised young Obama, in Hawaii.

Winthrop Rockefeller raised Bill Clinton.


If any of you think that OBAMA/CLINTON were put in power by Communists your fucking idiots.


The same people who put HITLER in power, put both OBAMA & CLINTON in power.

The PTB clique is very small, and all well documented by their HISTORIAN, Carrol Quigley (CIA Historian), Quigley personally tutored Clinton on the behalf of Winthrop Rockefeller.

Carrol Quigley is the most important character in all this narrative, because Quigley was the only person who considered that ANGLO-SAXSON take over of the world was so fucking important that it had to be documented and studied by future students of the CIA and NSA, and US state department. To this day Carrol Quigley is required reading if you are hired to be a Tribal Praetorian.


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:20 | 4318897 Oldwood
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What the fuck is right wing to you? Small business people who work and save and try to live within their means? Exmilitary who believe individual rights and have the training to protect them? Every person I know (not on TV) who is right wing has a job and savings. Obama has never had a job. I am confused with your "right wing".

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:55 | 4319072 Calmyourself
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Satoshi, his grandfather brought Frank Marshall Davis home to be a father figure to the young Obama, right wing.. sure..

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:04 | 4318239 bobert
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Communists hated Hitler.

Hitler hated communists.

Communists in the 1930's were respectful of jews.

The Nazi's tended toward naked nationalism, while Marxist's (communist's) were, shall we say more idealistic, trying to implement a new world where the working class would rule.  Krushchev called this a "dictatorship of the working class."





Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:33 | 4318320 IridiumRebel
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Thanks to a bevy of shitheaded leadership, we get a lovely cocktail of fascism, socialis and communism. Strange we circle the drain under such political auspices.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:43 | 4318342 Skateboarder
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All labeled as democracy and freedom, of course. Eat your democracy, subject, OR ELSE!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:44 | 4318349 satoshi101
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There is NO capitalism, no communism in the USA and NO socialism



Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:58 | 4318374 bobert
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I think the label Crony Capitalist's describes us best. (David Stockman has it correct.)

We are definitely srewed up.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:43 | 4318450 satoshi101
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Going back to Jekyll Island all this shit is orchestrated, the same guys that created the FED, put HITLER in power brought EUROPE to its knees, took over the world.

Today the IMF/CIA/NSA rules the world and it all came from Rockefeller, the same tribe that owns HILLARY&BILL.

No crony's involved in baking this pie, it is PRO-NAZISM since the early 1900's.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 08:17 | 4318764 Kobe Beef
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Rothschilds made Rockefeller by investing in his Standard Oil Corp back in Cleveland. They did this through Jacob Schiff. Follow Jacob Schiff around, and you will find him financing the Rockefellers, Harrimans, and Carnegies, financing the Russo-Japanese War in 1904, helping draft the Federal Reserve System at Jekyll Island in 1910, bankrolling Trotsky's return in 1917 (same as other Jekyll Island plotters the Warburgs bankrolled Lenin's return), and planning the CFR, which was posthumously founded in 1921.

So, the same guys who created the FED created the USSR and some (Vanderlip, Harriman) later funded Nazi Germany. So, the NWO is both pro-Nazism and Pro-Communism. It did not come from Rockefeller, who was merely an agent in a much wider, older conspiracy. Go back to the founding of the Bank of England, and you are closer to its modern history. You are partially correct, but consider that greater clarity would help your understanding.  (never mind the reptilians, just a good source of quotes)


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 11:11 | 4319351 bobert
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Right on.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 08:25 | 4318772 tradewithdave
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Same cracker... 6 different shapes... size up your friends.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:55 | 4319069 Sean7k
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That is because each one of these "isms" is a slavery system administered by an Elite class that happens to be zionist/illuminati. Slavery tailored to every population they plan to control. The Talmud is pretty clear on this.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:43 | 4318343 satoshi101
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Then and now there are two camps.

Right Wing Jews LOVE HITLER

LEFT Wing Jews hated Hitler

All Jews know that FORD, BUSH, and Hearst brought HITLER to power. This is why normal Jews will never buy a Ford auto, but Jews who are pro Hitler Buy Ford's just to make a statement.

Just saying...

I would say that 95% of the Jewish people  in Israel an USA or left-wing, but like the USA the right-wing makes all the noise.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 09:29 | 4318920 Oldwood
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Sure, Bush and Ford were big right wing extremists. Sure...

I'm a right wing extremist. I believe in individual rights and my right to defend myself. Just because so many sheep are willing to vote for a republican as the only thing even close to their ideology does not make a republican right wing. It just makes them complicit in facilitating the take over of our constitutional rights by a centralized government, drunk with power and only arguing over to whom to fuck next.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 12:52 | 4319796 smacker
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Can't disagree with most of that.

But you know, when you peel back their individual obsessions, the Commies and Fascists are both totalitarian. That kinda pushes the Left/Right debate about them into irrelevance since all totalitarian ideologies are against small government, personal freedom & liberty, individualism, free market economics etc etc. They can therefore only exist on the Far Left.

In today's political lexicon, they spent their time fighting over which nail in the nation's coffin to bang in next. Or as Edward Griffin put it: they fought over which despot was to be top dog.

That's not too different to what we see today in the US, Dems -vs- Reps and in the UK, Tories -vs- Labour. Of course all these political slimeballs would have us believe that we have a choice. I see no choice.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:05 | 4318391 williambanzai7
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Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:23 | 4318419 IridiumRebel
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I'm honored, Banzai, truly.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:36 | 4318442 Ranger_Will
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Banzai, most of the time I get a laugh or shake my head, but this one?...This one gives me the heebie jeebies.  That rising sensation you get in the groin and that cold sweat when you know something awful is either about to or already has transpired.

You really are a great artist to get that kinda response from your audience.  Keep it up man.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 02:28 | 4318501 williambanzai7
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I started using the Nazi comparison when the Fraudclosure scam came to light and I took lots of flack. But I never backed down. It is all about the ends justifying any means. There are idiots out there like Boehner who compare Nazism just for media effect. They have no clue what it means and why it applies now. This is not about effect. It is all substance and most of us here know better.

Apparently there are many other book readers out there who are recognising something is amiss and I have no doubt there are others out there who look at this as the ultimate playbook.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 05:53 | 4318690 Cap Matifou
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He is using the Communist Manifesto.

Look up the 10 points, they are all completed.

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