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The Good And The Bad News For The Future Of America's Jobs

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As we reported earlier (and have been for the past three years), there is a reason why the media prefers not to talk about the quality aspect of US job gains, and instead focuses on the seasonally adjusted quantity: there simply is no "quality." Take today for example, when we learned that more than half of the 74K jobs gained in the month of December were temp jobs (which mysteriously were not affected by the weather: only the high paying ones somehow got crushed by snow in December), and when adding the lowest paying retail and wholesale trade jobs, one got nearly 50% more than all the job gains for the past month.

Perhaps the only good news in today's job report is that it is now in the past, because absent from some inexplicably respected so-called pundits doing the most idiotic thing imaginable, and saying to just ignore this report, there was absolutely nothing good one could say about the lowest monthly job gain since January 2011 (driven by temp and retail workers) at least until it is revised several times over the next 3 years when we ultimately learn that today's noisy jobs print was really a gain of 500K jobs. Of course by then, there will be far bigger problem to deal with.

However, while December in the past, the future still remains. And it is here that we have some good and bad news. According to the just released Occupation Outlook Quarterly (OOQ) looking at the period from 2012 to 2022 released by the BLS, in the future the US will be in a significant need of jobs, which is good for all those worried that the economy is grinding to a halt, or those demoralized from not having a job for months on end and unsure if this will ever change.

That's the good news.

The bad news is that as in the case of today, the vast majority of future jobs will pay absolutely miserable salaries.

The chart below shows what we are talking about: it lays out the job categories for the 20 occupations with with the highest projected numeric change in employment. Alas, of the Top 10 highest growing jobs, 9 out of 10 will pay less than $35,000 a year.

Furthermore the composition of where the job growth is expected tells us much about where the government see this nation in the year 2022. Take for example personal-care aides which will be the fastest growing job from 2012 to 2022, among categories with more than 25,000 positions, the Labor Department said in a new report. The field will grow by nearly 50% to 1.8 million jobs.

This is how the OOQ describes this job group:

Personal-care aides help clients "with self-care and everyday tasks, and provide companionship," the newly released Occupational Outlook Handbook said. The job requires no formal education, but most aides have a high school diploma. Workers in the field earned an average annual income of $19,910. “As the baby-boom population ages, there will be an increase in the number of clients requiring assistance,” the handbook said.

What else is expected to soar? Registered nurses, retail salespeople, home health aides and ... fast food workers. That's the sad future of the US: a nation made up of old people desperate for nurses, and paid companions, who go out shopping and eating fast food.

Ok, it is not surprising that the most jobs will go to the unqualified, uneducated, and unmotivated. Is there any hope for higher paying jobs according to the BLS? Some more good news: the answer is yes!

Actually, considering the most in demand higher paying job will be lawyers, forget what we said about good news.

Finally, looking purely at the bad news, all workers in the government, postal service, animal production and newspaper industries have something to look forward to: a pink slip.



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Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:41 | 4321561 HedgeAccordingly
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El-Erian seems to be concerned.. "puzzled" .. perhaps.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:52 | 4321587 knukles
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What jobs?
Just you wait till the Democrats and Establishment Republicans all jump on the Amnesty and Immigration Band Wagon.
There won't be a part time job paying shit wages with no bennies for anybody.

Cloward-Piven is coming true

This is the Fucking Transformation Promised Us.

It'll only be after it's too late that people wonder who sold them out.
Way too late.
Maybe it is already.......


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:53 | 4321597 DoChenRollingBearing
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Excellent comment, truthiness here.  As they let in more Future Democrats, you young ones can expect more competition for the entry-level jobs.

Hey, you voted for them...

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:42 | 4321710 RafterManFMJ
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I've got my next job picked out - gleaner! I'll follow the robotic harvesters, dressed in roughspun sack cloth with a shapeless floppy hat to ward off the dying Fall light of Empire, and stuff precious overlooked potatoes into a muddy discarded Bank Of America rucksack.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:47 | 4321720 knukles
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Absolutely magnificent.




Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:50 | 4321731 Soul Glow
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NAFTA is what fucked us.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:15 | 4321813 Hulk
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Gatt is the real fucker...

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:43 | 4321884 CrazyCooter
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Those projections will never come true.

A nation can not continue on a path where all job growth is wiping the asses of the elderly while at the same time sacking the jobs of wealth production.

Consider some of the implications of the jobs that are supposed to *contract*. Seriously?



Sat, 01/11/2014 - 01:14 | 4322078 markmotive
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South Bronx of the 1970s/1980s

Detroit of today

An American reality?

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 10:25 | 4322498 Ulterior
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this fascist flag is banned in some of the countries

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 11:38 | 4322594 WarriorClass
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Lower wages?  Thank the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 and it's subsquent iterations.

The Law of Supply and Demand - it's what determines the price.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 00:14 | 4321959 kchrisc
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NAFTA and GATT may have found a hole, but it was the FedRes and their pol and crat government puppets that fucked us.

Put another way: Kill the real criminals,they of the US government and their bankster owners, and NAFTA, GATT, etc. just fade away.


"Hard to put a NAFTA or GATT on a guillotine."

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 15:37 | 4323162 James_Cole
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NAFTA and GATT may have found a hole, but it was the FedRes and their pol and crat government puppets that fucked us.

Sure, but they had a partner and that partner was the American people. Easy money and cheap slave made products were all good fun as long as it was your neighbour losing their job and not you. 

Americans made a very clear choice in the 80s - accepting the lie was much more enjoyable than facing reality - damn the consquences. Nothing has changed. 

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 19:28 | 4323711 SF beatnik
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No, I didn't vote for them. Seems everybody on the ballot wants to open the doors to the world.


Personally, I welcome the Chinese. They work their asses off, live clean, raise wonderful kids.


Both those from the south?  No no no no no no.....


Sun, 01/12/2014 - 09:43 | 4324484 MrPalladium
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How many Chinese? 200 million? 400 million?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:04 | 4321624 Oldwood
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I have thought that all of this was to collapse the world economy so they could impose a world currency and bank. Maybe I'm thinking too grand. Our next currency may simply be food stamps. Electronic and already in place. Nobody needs a job with food stamps for everyone.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 00:47 | 4322031 max2205
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Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:50 | 4321730 dunce
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People with low paying jobs are better than people on the dole, but they pay little or no taxes. In the not to distant past the majority of tax revenue came from middle class workers. Today the top few % m pay a large part of total taxes. This is not sustainable in the long term. Our debt is not all  held by other Americans and we will not get away with monetizing those trillions. The so called middle class by income today are mostly government employees that consume wealth not produce it. You can not eat your iphone and you can not wear entertainment in a polar vortex. You can not drive a solar powered 18 wheeler.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 12:57 | 4322770 angryBuddhist
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Good point that it is the top % paying a larger share of taxes while a growing bottom end paying no taxes at all (in fact a net consumer of tax dollars in the form of govt support payments) and a shrinking middle class with the assiciated shrinking tax revenues from that sector, all is not well with the status quo. It is unfortunate that those at the top fail to realize that proper implementation of monetary policy will not only increase their net worth but reduce their total tax burden by actually encouraging the middle class to grow once again which will result in a larger share of taxes (once again) raised by people happily at work and being truly productive. The strategy of bleeding the middle class dry and shifting all the wealth to a minority elite is not sustainable and will only backfire in ways most unpleasant. History has shown this to be a fact sure as gravity exists.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 03:19 | 4322222 Harbanger
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"It'll only be after it's too late that people wonder who sold them out.

Way too late.
Maybe it is already......."


It was way too late decades ago.  Now it's a full blown battle for our future.  I'm so grateful I was born during this age.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:14 | 4321591 DoChenRollingBearing
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Maybe I missed seeing it above, but for young people, being a paralegal might work out.  Boring, but you do not need a specialized degree, just being a college grad and "smart" is all it takes.  The money is OK.  And it is behind a desk, which matters for many.


If you can take the cold, almost any job in North Dakota pays well, even after housing.  Study engineering, and ND will pay you A LOT.

Example: when we were in Bozeman, Montana recently, the hotel desk clerk was studying Petroleum Engineering at MSU there in town.  He told me that when he got his first job (there in E Montana), they would likely pay him $200,000 for the first year...

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:47 | 4321722 AGuy
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" but for young people, being a paralegal might work out."

Unlikely, as there is is a sea of unemployeed lawyers. Many lawyers end up getting paralegal jobs just to help pay there student loans off.

"f you can take the cold, almost any job in North Dakota pays well, even after housing. "

Its A bubble that about to pop. Its a bubble financed by credit as the margins on LTO are razor thin and probably just another giant ponzi scheme as the drillers will simple default on the debt. Already creditors have been wising up and are no longer lending more money to the drillers. The Bakken Boom is going to bust either later this year or in 2015.

 "He told me that when he got his first job (there in E Montana), they would likely pay him $200,000"

Hope the clerk has a plan B!


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:57 | 4321759 DoChenRollingBearing
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Perhaps so re lawyers having to take paralegal work.  But, I know a few young folks who are paralegals, and doing just fine.  [boring work]

ND, well maybe.  But, it is my opinion that petroleum engineers will be in big demand as the country has to look ever harder to find more oil...  Getting a Pet E degree is also hard, so not many can assess how much oil there may be in that reservoir.  Just sayin'...


Always have a "Plan B"!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:26 | 4321836 CrashisOptimistic
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CiO's 3rd Law of the Universe:


If you are in a job that is well paid, then someone is contracting with a firm to build a robot to automate you away.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 00:04 | 4321934 CrazyCooter
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"Artificial intelligence is that which we don't understand" - Bill Joy

WEIRD: I had this Bill Joy quote hanging in my cube for years, but it doesn't google for shit.



Sat, 01/11/2014 - 00:02 | 4321928 CrazyCooter
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My conclusion, from many years ago, is that a job will only pay well over the long run if the job requires special talent (e.g. brains) in addition to education.

Petroleum Engineering is *HARD*. As are a lot of applied sciences which are in demand, such as computer science, some engineering disciplines, and so on. And there has to be a market for the labor on the back side of the education process.

Did I misread when all the new jobs are brain-dead elderly ass-wiping jobs? Nursing and medical can definately require talent, but to be paid for the patients have to produce or have savings. All the growth is medical; it won't happen because it can't.



Sat, 01/11/2014 - 06:56 | 4322327 zhandax
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Unfortunately, you are right.  I would start a company tomorrow to calibrate, certify, and/or repair medical diagnostic equipment if this lunatic government didn't do everything in their power to insure you go broke via insurance, regulation, and taxes.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 16:58 | 4325220 Rafferty
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Wrong.  Public sector jobs requiring litttle or no skill or training can pay big bucks. A university librarian in Ireland earns about $180,000 plus index-linked pension equating to 66% of salary.

Or what about this guy in NY?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:58 | 4321609 lordbyroniv
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Lawyers as a growth industry?  i dont think so.  Too much anecdotal evidence that says the legal sector is in collapse.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:52 | 4321736 Atomizer
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That's why the gay marriage push is so fundamental. The heterosexual market figured out this industry, has dried up attorney’s cash cow market. I give it 2 years before the metrosexual groups retreat revenue earnings for theses BAR parasites.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 06:29 | 4322336 zhandax
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"Lawyers as a growth industry?  i dont think so.  Too much anecdotal evidence that says the legal sector is in collapse."

We should be so lucky.  Atomizer, I hope you are right but they always seem to have the inside track on new exploitables on the horizon.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 08:56 | 4322411 CuttingEdge
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I would have thought lawyers would be third in line for the old lampost & pianowire combo when the SHTF. Just behind politicians and banksters.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 07:53 | 4324436 Kobe Beef
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A politician is the metastatic form of lawyer.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 02:09 | 4322149 Never One Roach
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Law as a solid business is almost dead unless you use it as an additional resource with something else. Think of this; I read Houston has over 25,000 lawyers and Dallas 22,000, for example.

Selling cell phone service in the mall will yield you more income.

The "Hard Sciences" used to be safe but I see more companies recruiting even these workers from the foreign pool of cheap labor, mainly India and China but also now from other countries.

It's going to be a very rough haul for all those in the private sector from here on out unless Globalization is slowed down.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 13:07 | 4322811 Silver Bug
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Remember everyone! This is a "Jobless" recovery! Just keep repeating it to yourself until it becomes reality.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:42 | 4321566 DEADTIME
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why not include soldiering? I made a life of it, I had incredible adventures, I made fairly good money, I have a good retirement, and I got to shoot people I didnt like....Its been grand.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:46 | 4321577 NoDebt
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Good for you, man.  Not sure if you noticed but they cut your pension last week.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:53 | 4321598 knukles
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Don't rile his ass, the goobermint has already declared him a danger to our way of life.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:48 | 4321725 AGuy
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And his healthcare benefits too!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:37 | 4321699 seek
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In three years "people I didn't like" is going to include a lot of folk's next door neighbors, and sleeping at night will get lots harder for more than just conscience reasons.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:54 | 4321727 DoChenRollingBearing
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Now that's good for a big fat plus one!

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 01:43 | 4322121 DEADTIME
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In the 23 years I served not once would I say that even a small group of soldiers in my company would turn on the American people. Many times in fact the talk turned to "what if's" and to a man each said they would fight with the American patriot and against a tyranny that would seek to enslave them.

The people you should beware of are the DHS, they take no oaths to the Constitution or the people and their training is dubious at best when it comes to the rights of a free citizen.

I sleep well at night knowing that everyone I killed deserved it, and that I would never give an order to oppress my fellow free American nor did I ever. The contacts I have today still feel as I do, if and when the time arrives the good men who wear our nations uniforms will by and large fight for freedom and against Mordor on the Potomac.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 06:53 | 4322341 zhandax
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Do the majority of them realize that the 'red, white, and blue' they remembered has been replaced by the advancing stages of a tyranny?

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 15:58 | 4323204 jerry_theking_lawler
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even if you 'lose your pension'? doubt it. it will not be a grand BANG all out war. it will start gradually. internal police action for small uprising. soldiers will be threatened with their pension and losing TRICARE (which will put their families at risk of high insurance or no treatment). most will respond because it is only a small encroachment up the publics freedom....hell, if they pass enough laws, even unconsitutional ones, the soldiers may think they are doing the righ thing by 'following the law'.....then it will will get worse, and worse, and worse...


and eventually, there will be a big BANG, but by the time it gets here most of the people that could have actually done something will be gone. even when the soldiers turn against their masters, the numbers will be small enought that even a smaller group of crazy loyals can control everyone (think with drones). it will be too late. the gate will be closed. all hopes of returning the pre-1913 will be will be a new day, in the empire of the us...or will it?

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 16:56 | 4325238 Rafferty
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" not once would I say that even a small group of soldiers in my company would turn on the American people."

Ok. But the profile of the average American soldier is being fundamentally and rapidly replaced.  The traditional White Chrstian male is being replaced by.........well, any alternative they can find.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:49 | 4321579 Greenskeeper_Carl
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This is probably because according to some, including on this site, the real economy basically stopped growing in any real manner about 14 years ago. Ever since the fed created the dot com bubble, and probably since nafta, the real economy has been in constant decline, while being papered over by govt spending/ fed printing, and changes in how the GDP, unemployment, long term deficit, and other such bullshit is calculated. It has managed to keep the illusion alive for most up until now, but it's starting to reach a point where more and more must be done while yeilding diminishing returns.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:50 | 4321585 NoDebt
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I'm going to become a librarian.  Little bit of growth (if you believe the chart, above, which I don't), nobody bothers you, indoor work, quiet.  All I need is one of those giant chains to hang my reading glasses from.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:55 | 4321601 DoChenRollingBearing
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And, if it's a decent library there are lots of good books to check out and read...

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:31 | 4321849 NoDebt
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Books?  Oh yeah, books.  Yeah, I'll definitely check some of them out and like.... do whatever it is you do with books.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:55 | 4321604 knukles
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Guy walks into the library and asks where the self-help books are.
Librarian says that'd kind of defeat the whole purpose.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:03 | 4321620 frankTHE COIN
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When people go "Postal" they shoot you.
When people go "Librarian" they just lay there when you have sex with them.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:32 | 4321853 NoDebt
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I'm OK with that.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 00:12 | 4321954 CrazyCooter
Sat, 01/11/2014 - 12:13 | 4322651 MontgomeryScott
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The second Ex used to refer to a character named 'Marian the Librarian'. She used to play it, sometimes...

Hair in a tight bun, old lady glasses, a frumpy grey dress...then she took the dress off, let her hair down, took off the glasses...DAMN!

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 16:53 | 4323306 DanDaley
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Like the newlywed Republicans having sex:

Husband: Oh, honey, honey, are you okay...did I hurt you?

Wife: No, I'm okay...why?

Husband: Well, I moved!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:12 | 4321638 foodstampbarry
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You'll also have to put your hair in a bun. For that reason alone, I'll pass.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:33 | 4321857 NoDebt
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Not enough of it left to have a problem with that.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 01:56 | 4322139 kareninca
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No, don't believe the chart.  Even in very good economic times, it is extremely hard to find a job as a librarian.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 18:23 | 4323545 realWhiteNight123129
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You are right not to believe the chart, in fact for those who pay attention the BLS claims increase in non-tradable sector and decrease in tradable goods sector. In other words, more trade deficit.

That is not going to happen between no and 2012, the USD will have a crisis before. Eventually US will have a balanced trade but a huge crisis first.


Sat, 01/11/2014 - 11:41 | 4322597 FredFlintstone
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Don't a lot of people read books on kindles and ipads? Will libraries be around in physical form in 2022 or will they be in the "cloud"?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:50 | 4321588 DoubleTap
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BLS=Ministry of Plenty

"But actually, he thought as he re-adjusted the Ministry of Plenty’s figures, it was not even forgery. It was merely the substitution of one piece of nonsense for another. Most of the material that you were dealing with had no connexion with anything in the real world, not even the kind of connexion that is contained in a direct lie. Statistics were just as much a fantasy in their original version as in their rectified version. A great deal of the time you were expected to make them up out of your head. For example, the Ministry of Plenty’s forecast had estimated the output of boots for the quarter at 145 million pairs. The actual output was given as sixty-two millions. Winston, however, in rewriting the forecast, marked the figure down to fifty-seven millions, so as to allow for the usual claim that the quota had been overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot. And so it was with every class of recorded fact, great or small. Everything faded away into a shadow-world in which, finally, even the date of the year had become uncertain."

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:53 | 4321595 OC Sure
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Does the BLS pass the litmus test of the 10th amendment?

Where is that petition for a redress of grievances?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:55 | 4321603 Jack Burton
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The two real keys to how America's economy is working for the vast majority is summed up in the "wage rate for jobs created" and the "labor force participation rate".

The unemployed are now hidden inside the giant lie about who is unemployed and who is out of the labor force. We all know this is a fucking hoax.

Jobs lost, look at the average wage of a job lost since 2008. Then compare to the average pay of the new economy jobs. It is bad. And what is worse is that not only is pay rate down, but full time work is now rare.

This is called a recovery, as indeed it is. Recovery for the top earners is absolutely fabulous. Record breaking income rises for the top. Their asset classes are exploding into record terrirtory on the back of QE, Monet Printing and Market Manipulation.

America is officially two nations divided by our corrupt crony capitalist goverment. Americans seem not to care. Well, then the future collaspe is as much down to them as it is to the elites who are pushing the neo-liberal and crony capitalism systems.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:14 | 4321643 OC Sure
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Right. How do 531,000 peeps mysteriously "drop out of the labor force" in 30 days? If you are breathing and don't have a job, then aren't you unemployed? Or maybe they all are working FOR farms? ...Counterfeiting drives real wages down relative to what those wages can buy; ie., purchasing power. Wages, purchasing power, always rise last relative to goods and once upon a time would actually catch up to those higher prices. But "those times are gone forever, over a long time ago, oh yeah..."

I think that maybe Americans really do care but they are confused, hoodwinked, duped, indoctrinated, and content follow their misleaders?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:37 | 4321870 CrashisOptimistic
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When one signs up for disability, one is excluded from the workforce.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:56 | 4321605 dick cheneys ghost
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whats the ZH ip address????????

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:12 | 4321639 James
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That took me all of 20 seconds to find using - gasp - a computer

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:20 | 4321659 OC Sure
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Powerful picture. Can we petition for a redress of grievances before that rolls?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:13 | 4321810 dick cheneys ghost
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thanks......couldnt get in thru firefox......Im in chrome now and I hate chrome.....

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 06:42 | 4322344 zhandax
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Is this what you really need?



Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:31 | 4321684 Atomizer
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Forgive me NSA fuck sticks, I was helping someone sign up for ACA. Don’t know how I’ve arrived here.


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:09 | 4321635 Yes_Questions
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WTF is Animal Production?


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:38 | 4321705 seek
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Ranching, factory farming chickens etc.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:51 | 4321728 knukles
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Buttfucking sheep


Why do I always have to do all the thinking for everybody?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:00 | 4321765 DoChenRollingBearing
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Because you're good at it...?

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 00:21 | 4321977 knukles
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Ouch!  You got me!

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 00:59 | 4322050 Colonel Klink
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Ok DC, I have to ask which of his comments you're referring to? hahaha

Sorry Knucks!

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 00:38 | 4322010 sethstorm
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I didnt know this was New Zealand.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 13:59 | 4322943 Winston Churchill
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The Welsh started it.

Or as they are called, Irishmen that can't swim.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:15 | 4321637 dundermifflin
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I just signed up for truck driver training. Wife is a full time nurse. Three kids at home. We just barely keep above water, debt wise.Not the life style I would prefer, but.....New chapter. Cross my fingers

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:19 | 4321653 DoChenRollingBearing
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Any work that someone legit pays for adds dignity.  Driving a truck is good work.  

Don't forget to save money.  You know, for gold.


EDIT: just saw you're married, so I edited out a comment.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:18 | 4321654 OC Sure
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That's honest work. Hope you are delivering beer and not paper.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:25 | 4321677 Yenbot
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And don't forget to join the Teamsters.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:32 | 4321689 Yes_Questions
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and I'm sending positive thoughts your way.


yes, I'm serious, and I hope this new chapter brings happiness and not the thing I sense you're cringing in expectation of.


This is Fight Club, but we gotta have each other's back at some point.






Sat, 01/11/2014 - 01:30 | 4322105 Muppetrage
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Not to be a downer but your post made me think of the driverless car technology that's already being used and the tidal wave of job losses that will bring in the not too distant future. Teamsters, cabbies, insurance industry/cartel. On the bright side traffic deaths, drunk driving, and being mugged by traffic cops will be virtually eliminated.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:22 | 4321665 James
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I just passed a Jimmy and a White

Been passing everything in sight

six days on the road

and i'm going to make it home tonight

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:34 | 4321675 Azwethinkweiz
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Retail and food service are the only two industries hiring in my neck of the woods (a semi-affluent area in Southern California).

But here's my peas and carrots...

Just started "seeing" a woman, 35 years old, unemployed. She's been out of work for over a year reaping the benefits of unemployment. What does she spend her [YOUR] tax-paying dollars on? She lives at home with her parents...she's an alcoholic, shopaholic, pill-popper and all around groovy chick. She lives EDD payment to EDD payment. When she's out of pills or wants to make some extra money, she calls her doctor and he fills a new prescription for highly sought after pharmaceuticals. Just like that. She has ZERO intention of looking for a job so long so long as she continues to have her EDD card funded. She racks up debt fixing, her depression, with shopping spree after shopping spree. She confessed, "I have pity on the man who marries me and takes on my debt." She is amazing in bed and so, for that, I will continue waiting for her mom and dad to goto sleep before we engage in sexual activity (she's crazy, she's not coming over to my place). Her dad is a nice man and her mom cooks an amazing meal...I eat for free. I just have to put up with her bullshit. Couple more weeks left of this, me thinks. I gotta have faith in the condoms and that she's ACTUALLY, REALLY on birth control. But she has no health I said, she's a good lay but I pray to the condom Gods each and every fack.

This is America in a nutshell, me thinks.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:37 | 4321697 Yes_Questions
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Pops got a shotgun?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:50 | 4321729 CultiVader
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Sounds like a real winner you got there. My wife - 33, works 4 40 hr shifts as a vet tech, goes to school part time, helps raise ourr two year-old, just got pregnant again, no debt no drugs....consider me lucky if you want but you`re old lady is a fucking waste of our air.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:03 | 4321776 Azwethinkweiz
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Absolutely! Bless you both! I wish nothing but the best for you and your family!

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 04:47 | 4322269 bunnyswanson
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Addiction is not uncommon.  The broken spirits are in every park in every city.  Leave her you fucking creep.  Leave her.  Find a queen who will laugh at your dull jokes, your lack of imagination.  There is a reason people get fucked up beyond recognition and you know it.  Whatever happened to her, to cause her such agony, is clearly not being shared with you which means she realizes you are a superficial asshole who can't get laid by a member of your own peer group.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 05:14 | 4322289 Harbanger
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"Leave her you fucking creep.  Leave her."

What makes you think he's forcing her have a relationship with him.  I'm sure he's cute or has something going on for her to want to be with him.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:41 | 4321877 CrashisOptimistic
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When she's out of pills or wants to make some extra money,


I confess that what came after this was not what I was expecting.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 05:04 | 4322283 Skateboarder
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You were totally expecting sketchy side channels, right?

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 04:50 | 4322271 bunnyswanson
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Aye, your a goddam hero. Remind her of that while you sit in a camp waiting to be told what happens next.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 02:04 | 4322147 dexter_morgan
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regular card carrying FSA member there

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 04:49 | 4322263 Intoxicologist
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You're a dumbass. 

You think when you are tired of her that she'll leave you alone?

Good luck with that.

Edit: Oh yeah, I meant to ask: Are you 12 years old? Your post was more retarded than the Promise Zone speech by O'Bumfuck yesterday. Jeez, man, get a life!

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 04:43 | 4322266 bunnyswanson
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You fuck.  You don't deserve to have an orgasm.  You are a fine example of what bad mothering will do.  Despising the woman you are fucking describes a lazy rapist. 

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 11:47 | 4322611 enloe creek
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like a woman never uses sex for other reasons than love HAHAHA
she gets to have a man interested in her and enjoys his company he gets gratification without commitment seems fair

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 16:07 | 4323223 jerry_theking_lawler
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trust me. i know its fun to play, but take her any shit that you have of hers, give it to her at the front door, walk away and never look back. block her phone number, email, any communication. move on with your life and find someone else (or live alone forever). if you want to F**k, pay for it with a professional....

shit, if she get prego, you are attached to her for 18 years (minimum). (had a simliar situation a few years back, after a near miss, i woke up one day and said this is not what i want. bitch had borrowed about $5k over a year so i consider it a valuable learning experience.)

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 22:51 | 4321738 ncdirtdigger
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I see executioner as a growth area.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 02:02 | 4322146 dexter_morgan
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Guillotines could be big manufacturing growth area.......

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:31 | 4321847 besnook
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first of all, it is stupid to try to project even something as empirical as labor numbers out for ten years. the labor market is affected by all sorts of unforeseen circumstances from manmade to natural events. the one i like best is the tipping point for the 99.9%, especially the 90%, who make diddly in service of the .1% to actually assert their power in the free market system. so far, all i hear is whining. is that all you gen x and yers are good for?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:41 | 4321876 Spungo
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If someone works for the government, are they counted as employed or mentally disabled?

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 03:01 | 4322206 John_Coltrane
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That's a trick question.   The answer is both, of course.

So, a sound education in analytical thinking and the scientific method is never a waste!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:51 | 4321900 Spungo
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It shouldn't surprise anyone when the country as a whole produces nothing and lives on its credit card.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 03:39 | 4322234 GreatUncle
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You forgot to add one bit.

Prints the minimum payment on its credit card, wish I could do that!

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 00:37 | 4322009 sethstorm
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Now that's a very large excluded middle to jump from low end to 5+ years.  What about the 2 and 4 year figures(or do they trend to their respective pairs?).

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 00:56 | 4322046 teslaberry
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any projections saying that job growth will be in law are bogus. 


as a lawyer----i think more lawyers will just be a part of a self imploding financial collapse where there is no growth for anyone, lawyers included. 


OR , you don't have more laywers , and the system grinds on as usual. law school enrollments are down because of the expectation of less jobs for lawyers, that---or people don't want to borrow ass loads of nondischargeable money anymore. ..who knows.


so this projection is bullshittas crap.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 01:15 | 4322082 IridiumRebel
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I was headed to law school. I saw the job prospects were about as rosy as the prospects of 'Merika; shite. I'm going into education now. I was working in subprime lending. I saw a lot of lawyers who were "just getting back on their feet."

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 01:11 | 4322074 tony bonn
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i used to be opposed to high minimum wage and high taxes on capital gains, but a good case could be made for both. the 1%ers have built their wealth on the backs of others' labors. their is no superiority of capital over labor and labor is taxed into oblivion...

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 01:53 | 4322133 MagicMoney
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Another words low productive jobs. Service jobs are not as productive. They don't have the tendency to increase affluency as much as physical supply goods which can be exported abroad globally. Truth is, the US economy is based on asset prices, and consumer spending, not much else. It's a service economy, where productivity is limited to individuals who were born, and willing to work servicing other people. US doesn't have enough savings and investment. People are busy buying up houses bidding them up, buying new cars, instead of producing high value goods accessible to the most consumers. The US suffers from a structural problem. I keep saying this over and over, savings, and investment is the true path toward lifting one self, yes including society out of the state of poverty. Americans suffer from the syndrome of owning random stuff is wealth. For example, like because it's on sale, you better take advantage of that sale, even though you don't really need it. It's like as if they are afraid to save.


Many factors effect this. It is both monetary, which doesn't give the incentive to save, and government all the way down from the Federal Government that prevents job creation. Politicians like to pretend they can create meaningful jobs, in reality they are in the way of productive jobs. To create jobs, you just need freedom, to create productivity, and innovations that improve society in general, you only need freedom, no jobs bill, or any of that nonsense. The economy needs to restructure, and the monetary policy prevents that, and so does the government in form of laws, and regulations including local government such as municipalities. Government by nature is simply a force of restriction. Government doesn't give you freedom, you are inherently free, it simply removes freedoms.


This has been a long trend for the US, and it will continue. Low productive jobs with minimal output. Assets need to fall in price, and consumer spending has to decline, less debt, and more savings with investment increasing. That's real economic growth. Keynesians favor maximized consumption, but have no clue how a economy grows anyways. Haha.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 17:52 | 4323452 plane jain
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For example, like because it's on sale, you better take advantage of that sale, even though you don't really need it. It's like as if they are afraid to save.


With rising prices, stagnant wages, and interest rates on savings that dont' keep up with inflations, is that really surprising?  Get it while you can.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 01:57 | 4322137 q99x2
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By the time I get my PhD I'll be ready to retire. I don't care because I bought Bitcoin.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 03:21 | 4322223 ACasey
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Bitcoin seems like a good alternative but the stories out of China banning use of bitcoin on Alibaba and at banks is worrisome.  It seems the Chinese central bank is fiercely moving to protect its currency.  But I also saw plenty of stories of travelers going across Europe and some around the world using nothing but bitcoin.  True success for a digital currency.  I do not like seeing countries ban any kind of currency because it inhibits freedom of trade and any country fiercely prohibiting bitcoin must be terribly worried about the status of their own currency.  Best advertising there is.  When countries and banks ban bitcoin, its time to buy bitcoin.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 03:13 | 4322219 ACasey
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This story really spells it out.  The US Census Population clock shows 1 person every 17 seconds in the US which means 155,000 new mouths every month in the US.  The count changes sometimes but the figures of 155,000-200,000 new people per month says a lot.

The Affordable Care Act [Obamacare] guarantees to tax and encumber future employed with disastrous unmanageable costs. 

Education is paramount to surviving in the evolving technology based systems replacing older legacy systems of doing business.  Those that can adapt to new technology have a much better chance than those less educated to the shift and trapped in legacy systems. 

You can see from the charts the opportunities and realize quickly what will provide and what will not provide for your future.  Stay up on your reading to see what's going on but most importantly, try to stay 2-3 steps out ahead of it and see where things are going.  It will be at your door and dinner table in no time.  Good job with the detail ZeroHedge.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 08:47 | 4322405 Pee Wee
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Who needs jobs when the economic prosperity fairy will print prosperity for all?

No, really.

Economies thrive on lawless abandon, what could possibly go wrong with the wizards of financial wonder?

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 08:57 | 4322413 10mm
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I think ill continue to enjoy my smokes and drink, in moderaton of cource. I do have to function as a slave.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 09:21 | 4322427 whidbey-2
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We must be patient fellow inmates this is our doing.

 this article fails to mention that future jobs will involve supporting 55% the population who do not pay taxes, 30% who are receiving transfer payments from governments (fed, state and local and often the same group of citizen/voters) and 13% Now held in Prisons who do not work, and will not be hired easily when released. Are you sure you really want a job. YOu need lawyers to help you become a citizen criminal who avoids the system of the state. It involves TBTF theory, where you sell the oppressor the means of opression. It is just business and choosing the proper side.  Remember,

  Big Brother runs your life, not you, not your lawyer, and certainly not the legislative sham. No, it is run by the Central Authority which consists of the people who elect the oppressor in chief. The only "job" you need is aiding the oppressor and you are too big to fail, too important to fail, and too informed to fail.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 09:29 | 4322451 Took Red Pill
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Just wait until TPP gets passed and watch more jobs disappear and more wages go down. 

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 10:21 | 4322493 all-priced-in
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I didn't see banker on any of these lists - unless it is under personal care aide "with benefits". (whore) 


Sat, 01/11/2014 - 11:21 | 4322575 southerncomfort
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1st chart - looking at last line item.  Hemp help -- thinking numbers would be rising --but chart showed declining! looked again: Temp help.  OH!  never mind.  

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 11:25 | 4322579 swedish etrade baby
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Its a service economy. Here politicians and pungits have been talking about it for a decade.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 12:42 | 4322734 Carl Popper
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Why work so much?


Staple foods are cheap.  Do we really need big houses and big cars and so much junk and extra clothes that our houses are filled to the brim?


Work less, enjoy life.  And we can kill Leviathan at the same time by continuing to shrink consumer and business credit demand. 

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 16:34 | 4323276 Marco
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Unless you have the skills to be self-employed it's not your decision.

Despite all those jobs being called part time they still want you on call 24/7 and make you work massive amounts of overtime when it suits them. When you say no you get a lot more free time.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 13:26 | 4322862 icanhasbailout
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I seriously doubt those health care jobs will come into being. I believe we are at or near peak healthcare spending now, as we're already at the point where these costs are cratering the economy.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 14:58 | 4323089 zipit
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Plastics?!  Say it ain't so.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 10:03 | 4324501 kenezen
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Good jobs and massive hiring is possible if we follow what Japan after the war with W Edwards Deming and S. Korea who followed Japan's direction. And, of course, little self effacing Deng Xiaoping of China who got rid of Mao's influence and created a spectacular Capitalistic front-End to a Socialistic disaster and look at China Now!! Who taught these recovering countries as well as others how to do that??

It was America! But, instead of staying with that proven Capitalistic Small Central Government formula we went the wrong way!

The good news is it's not too late unless we allow just another Socialist President, (We've had more than a few), to stop our reversal and become capitalistically competitive once again.

Here's how! (in case we've forgotten). We should immediately stop and freeze all hiring in central Government. We(State Originated without central Government control teams of specially trained people out to all the major heavy industries of the world and say "What will get you manufacturing base goods like Steel and Rubber and Plastics; ,then, products made from these base materials for manufacture in America and exported  throughout the world??  We'll do whatever it takes! Let the States compete without Federal Agency interference.

Look at our history!! That's what we did in the middle 1800's and early through middle 1900's. We invented this!! We've become non-competetive except for invention. Let's put our high school kids to work with opportunity like we had in the fifties.

Big Central Government. Bloated Sate Governments must change immediately or we will fail.     

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