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Irish Finance Ministry Reveals It Has Lost Banking Crisis Files

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We are sure there is a joke in here somewhere but it is no laughing matter. Following a request for copies of 8 documents  of correspondence between Ireland's (former) finance minister and the nations' largest bank executives, the Irish minstry of finance has been forced to admit that it cannot find two out of the eight. The documents, previously 100% redacted, raises questions as to whether other documents have gone 'missing'. As RTE reports, the Department of Finance said it had carried out a widespread search for the documents and it was not clear why the original versions could not be located. Those darn leprechauns... We are sure, however, it has nothing to do with the Irish banks "picking bailout numbers out of their arses."


Via RTE,

Documents relating to the banking crisis have gone missing at the Department of Finance.


The department has conceded that some correspondence forwarded from Bank of Ireland to the former minister for finance Brian Lenihan can no longer be located.




In 2009, the department was asked under Freedom of Information to release copies of all correspondence between the late Mr Lenihan and the chief executives of the banks during the period August 2008 to March 2009.


The department released eight items.


Late last year, Sinn Féin finance spokesperson Pearse Doherty requested repeat copies of these documents.


He was told that two out of the eight could no longer be found.


When released in 2009, both had been completely redacted.


They concerned correspondence between the governor of Bank of Ireland Richard Burrows and an advisor to the Jupiter group, Noel Corcoran.


Jupiter was trying to buy Bank of Ireland at the time.


Mr Doherty said the fact that the department could not locate records was worrying ahead of the banking inquiry.


He said it raised questions as to whether other documents may have gone missing.


In a statement to RTÉ News this evening, the Department of Finance said it had carried out a widespread search for the documents and it was not clear why the original versions could not be located.


It said that it had undertaken a project which would ensure the completeness and integrity of its records from the time of the bank guarantee.




It said that it was not aware of any documents relating to the bank guarantee which may have gone missing.


Mr Doherty said: "These letters existed in 2009.  They were released but the content was fully redacted to a journalist under the Freedom of Information legislation.


"However I have now been informed that these letters have gone missing from the Department of Finance.


"These are some of the only documents between the Governor of the Bank of Ireland and the Minister for Finance during a period when the government decided to pump €3.5m of taxpayers' money into that bank."


He went on to say: "The only reason we know that these documents are missing is because two separate FOIs were made on the same document over a four year period.  The question has to be asked about what other sensitive documents have gone missing.  The reality is that we may never know.


"If the upcoming banking inquiry is to be successful it is important that all relevant documents are found or returned."


Good job they got that bond issue off eh?


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Fri, 01/10/2014 - 18:58 | 4321141 logicalman
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Lying sacks of shit.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:02 | 4321150 NotApplicable
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<-- This is my shocked face.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:04 | 4321154 idea_hamster
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I guess now we see the “quo.”

When Irish debt “smashed expectations,” that was the “quid” – in more ways than one!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:07 | 4321168 Xibalba
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Must implicate other countries

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:15 | 4321184 Say What Again
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Looks like the Irish have been taking lessons from the NJ Mob.  I think I see a great opportunity for an Irish version of "The Sopranos"  Maybe the McSopranos" or "The Obranos"

Wait a minute - that looks to close to "The Obamos"  Maybe I'm on to something.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:20 | 4321197 Boris Alatovkrap
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Every scam eventually is lose files. For example, Apollo Mission is lose telemetry tape.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:22 | 4321201 Say What Again
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Does Boris have loose bowels?


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:31 | 4321226 Boris Alatovkrap
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Recent, Boris is insomnia, but bowel is plenty tight. You are concern is much appreciative!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:55 | 4321310 Say What Again
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I thought Insomnia was a country next to Bernankistan.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 03:08 | 4322215 Boris Alatovkrap
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No, you are think of Megalomania.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:27 | 4321215 Trucker Glock
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Perhaps stolen by Iranian militants so they can use it to get to the moon...just to burn the flag we left there.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:32 | 4321231 Boris Alatovkrap
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Who is leave flag!? Where is flag!?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:37 | 4321241 Trucker Glock
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Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in planting a U.S. flag on a lunar rocky knoll.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:39 | 4321248 Trucker Glock
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This plot is going to make for a good movie.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 20:07 | 4321350 Boris Alatovkrap
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Very interesting plot! Not only is Mr. Oswald to plant flag on moon, but is still alive in 1969! But is believable as $USD multi-billion expense of taxpayer money to lose only proof of accomplishment. You are bring popcorn, Boris is bring refreshing liquid refreshment!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:04 | 4321781 RafterManFMJ
Sat, 01/11/2014 - 00:47 | 4322023 Trucker Glock
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Can't.  Rember that Oswald acted alone.  His homemade jetpack was found at his mother's, who happens to be...George H. W. Bush's mother also!  Hitler is Oswald's and Bush's papa.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 01:35 | 4322113 RafterManFMJ
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Hey, don't forget Jimmy Carter is a bastard son of Kennedy...look it up. Wheels in wheels in wheels...

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:31 | 4321227 bobert
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Perhaps the Apollo mission was just 'a lot of crap?'

You are my favorite Russian.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 20:57 | 4321235 Boris Alatovkrap
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Dear Bert,

"Lot of EXPENSIVE crap". There is fix for you.



(P.S., Boris is for Ukrainian (cossack) descent, but you are very grateful! Spasibo!)

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:41 | 4321244 JustObserving
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We spent $140 billion on the Apollo missions (today's dollars) but too bad we had to reuse those invaluable moon tapes to save money.  Hope we saved more than $140:

An exhaustive, three-year search for some tapes that contained the original footage of the Apollo 11 moonwalk has concluded that they were probably destroyed during a period when NASA was erasing old magnetic tapes and reusing them to record satellite data.

"We're all saddened that they're not there. We all wish we had 20-20 hindsight," says Dick Nafzger, a TV specialist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland, who helped lead the search team.

"I don't think anyone in the NASA organization did anything wrong," Nafzger says. "I think it slipped through the cracks, and nobody's happy about it."


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:25 | 4321834 Greenskeeper_Carl
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"No laughing matter". Agree to disagree. I think it's hilarious. Fucking criminals. All you can do is laugh at this point.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:28 | 4321219 JuliaS
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"If I don't see it, it's not illegal!"

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 20:04 | 4321336 kchrisc
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Part of Cozine's motto, and Holder's too.


Part of my motto: "The guillotine blade shall only be as sharp as needed."

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 20:46 | 4321449 Buck Johnson
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They sure are lying and it's going to get worse.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 02:10 | 4322153 wee-weed up
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Fri, 01/10/2014 - 18:59 | 4321142 NoWayJose
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Missing Irish documents is NOTHING compared to what will go missing if Congress audits the Fed.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:00 | 4321144 Skateboarder
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Where are all the moon landing tapes?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:05 | 4321161 Sudden Debt
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the art department is still working on those.
just take a moonrock while you're waiting!.... oh wait... those are also all gone...

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:14 | 4321180 Xibalba
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same place they put the black boxes for flights from 9/11

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:18 | 4321192 Bastiat
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And all the security cam vids for the Pentagon on 9/11.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:22 | 4321200 Boris Alatovkrap
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Moon landing telemetry tape is "accidental" erase:

Just like Bangkok, always twice check before take "waitress" back to hotel.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 20:24 | 4321276 JustObserving
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 security cam vids for the Pentagon on 9/11.

Yes, all 84 of them saw nothing.  All freedom on information requests denied.  

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 20:10 | 4321359 kchrisc
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And the seccam vids from around the Murrah building.


"Truth or Consequences for a pol and crat is: you figure out the truth while you pay the consequences."


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:07 | 4321163 Sudden Debt
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you know what they say... if it's missing.... did it happen?
was there ever such a thing like a "banking" or a "crisis"....

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:24 | 4321209 Boris Alatovkrap
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Crisis is man made pull from colonic exit, so maybe just make new set of file. All is eventual to go down vortex of commode, so what is big deal!?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:43 | 4321270 More_sellers_th...
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Boris..I envy your pragmatism...the world could you more of it...It seems to evade me, but i am trying

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:27 | 4321217 Skateboarder
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I ollied down a 100 stair set once. My homie lost the footy. I'm still flippin mad at him, I tells ya!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:41 | 4321260 logicalman
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Congress audits the Fed............

Can hardly type for laughing.

That's a good one!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 20:05 | 4321341 seek
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"Missing Irish documents is NOTHING compared to what will go missing if Congress audits the Fed."

and that is NOTHING compared to what will be found missing if Germany ever audits its gold holdings at the Fed.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:00 | 4321143 Yen Cross
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     Maybe someone left them in a box of Lucky Charms®?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:12 | 4321177 CrashisOptimistic
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Might I remind the distinguished readership that it was telling Ireland that they would be permitted to default that got Dominque Strauss-Kahn framed and LaGarde in.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:13 | 4321179 NotApplicable
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You mean we're not low-brow anymore?

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 17:49 | 4325346 Rafferty
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I got confirmation of that from 'a usually reliable source' as they say.  Could well be true.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:24 | 4321208 Skateboarder
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They're magically suspicious!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:50 | 4321898 NoDebt
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OK, I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:00 | 4321145 ebworthen
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"Magna Carta goes missing; mysteriously burned and erased, expunged from history.  No film at 11:00."

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:10 | 4321172 Groundhog Day
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Speaking of Films....   Assault on Wall Street is a must watch for ZH's.  Actual events coming to a financial center near you

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:43 | 4321271 logicalman
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Kinda like the US constitution.

TPTB seem to have lost that too, as have Judges.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 21:21 | 4321518 disabledvet
disabledvet's picture least Jefferson got a memorial. He wouldn't have liked that as...obviously...nothing terrified him more than a centralized State...indeed he spent his entire life fighting against that. He'd be even more terrified of the "Abraham" Lincoln Monument sitting in a stark and stern repose kinda reminding you "something bad comes this way." He'd probably get a good chuckle relative to the Washington Monument though..."that was George all right." The White House, the State Department, the Pentagon, the Fed, the CIA (with off ramp), the FBI, the NSA, the Treasury Department...he was a techie for his time...and i think he'd be like "wtf, over?" and then probably blame John Adams "who put that library there and gave all these people all sorts of bad ideas." he did have a great solution to the "statist impulses" of the day though: buy 36 million acres. "here, have some free land. now cut yer bitchin' and don't tell me the Government never did anything for ya'."

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:00 | 4321146 pods
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I wonder if old G Gordon Liddy has recently been to the Emerald Isle?


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:03 | 4321155 Sudden Debt
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I'm just watching Watergate.... good movie...

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:14 | 4321182 Rainman
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Last of the Nixon tapes are out.

"It's all about a crappy thing that didn't work ! Nothing worked ! Nobody got a goddam thing out of it, damn bugging !

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:03 | 4321158 fonzannoon
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the banking crisis has gone missing.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:42 | 4321266 GotNuttin'todo
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Or stick them in their own WTC#7 and ... well, we know the rest of that story :(

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:07 | 4321164 Soul Glow
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Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:10 | 4321171 Handful of Dust
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Sitting in the jail cell will  help his memory find the files.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 06:32 | 4322339 BidnessMan
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Fat chance of that. Nobody goes to jail

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:16 | 4321186 Obama_4_Dictator
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Ah sweet! The American Banking elite can only hope to be this lucky!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:18 | 4321190 trader1
Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:20 | 4321196 Bastiat
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malware site?

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 07:27 | 4324418 trader1
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no, it's the world's first 24-hour music video.  

it's kind of cute watching all the people dance/walk in public places, and the tune has a nice groove.  

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:22 | 4321199 Trucker Glock
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Fuckers probably can't find the tape deck and the Creedence either.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 23:09 | 4321796 RafterManFMJ
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You fuckin' this up, Dude?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:22 | 4321202 teolawki
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Warehouse 13?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:26 | 4321212 walküre
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They lost the files? Then they should stop paying unless the other party can produce something legit. Guy Fawkes rules in the meantime.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:45 | 4321278 logicalman
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Vote Guy Fawkes - the only man ever to enter the Houses of Parliament with honest intentions.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:27 | 4321216 Wile-E-Coyote
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The Irish have always been debt slaves and always will, they will only fight over trivial things, not what truly matters. Damn their servitude

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:46 | 4321283 logicalman
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They've always been on the wrong end of the balance of power.

Sound familiar?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:28 | 4321221 frankTHE COIN
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That's on page 59 of JPM's PlayBook ' Theft is really Borrowing, 101 '

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:33 | 4321232 GotNuttin'todo
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Don't wake up in a roadside ditch.

Get rid of evidence.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:34 | 4321234 Blazed
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The dog ate my homework.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:45 | 4321277 BuddyEffed
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Probably both Snowden and the NSA could get them a copy of the missing documents in a pinch.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:49 | 4321290 MrTouchdown
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Don't worry Mr. Doherty. Nobody holds gov'ts accountable. At the very worst, you'll have to accept your golden parachute and go work for a different bank.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:57 | 4321314 kchrisc
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The documents are with the missing 18 1/2 minutes and Obama's Columbia U. records--in the "Memory Hole."

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 20:12 | 4321368 Rising Sun
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da guiness ate ma homework

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 20:40 | 4321424 Joebloinvestor
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I wondered where Sandy Berger ended up working.

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 01:06 | 4322064 celticgold
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see....?  what did i tell u ??


Sat, 01/11/2014 - 02:53 | 4322200 U4 eee aaa
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Excuse me. Somehow I stumbled into a Monty Python skit

Sat, 01/11/2014 - 06:41 | 4322343 Zero Point
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Maybe they got put on my desk.

The Bermuda triangle of paperwork.

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