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Union Jobs Are The New iPads As 1500 New Yorkers Camp Out Three Freezing Days For A $17.20/Hour Job

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While this morning's dismal jobs data is being blamed on the weather (despite no other recent indicator reflecting the same effect), it seems New Yorkers are not afraid of the cold. In fact, as FoxNY reports, it seems there is a new 'must-have' for the New Year - a Union Job. 1,500 people have been on line since 1pm on Tuesday for a 'coveted' union job that pays $17.20 per hour (for painting and decorating apprenticeships) and could lead to a full-time union position. Forget the iPhone5S, union jobs is where it's at...

 

New York News

 

Via FoxNY,

The line wrapped nearly around an entire city block on Friday as approximately 1,500 people waited in Queens for a chance to apply for a coveted union job.

 

The first few people on line had been there since 1 p.m. on Tuesday when the temperature in New York City was in the single digits.

 

District Council 9 is accepting 500 applications in Long Island City for painting and decorating apprenticeships.

 

The hired will receive a salary of $17.20 an hour during the first year.

 

The apprenticeship could lead to a full time union position.

 

Maybe Apple (or Microsoft or Sony) should consider offering a union-job with the next release of their products? Given today's jobs data, we suspect the demand for the latter may outstrip demand for the former very very soon...

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Fri, 01/10/2014 - 13:59 | 4320160 VD
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'Merika new slogan: FAIL 4EVA FAIL HARDER(er)

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:06 | 4320202 Beam Me Up Scotty
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I'm holding out for one of those union jobs where I can do nothing all day but watch porn and get paid and retire with a big pension.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:08 | 4320212 VD
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xactly: jerk ur gov handout while hasslin remnants of taxpayerz lef....gov heartz pron-planet drugged out on gov handoutz...

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:12 | 4320230 Joe Davola
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Good point, I'm sure some of them now qualify for disability due to their frozen extremities.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:14 | 4320245 WarriorClass
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The bigger picture that takes jobs from Americans and lowers the wages of those still working are LEGAL immigration and WORK VISAS. Those are the middle class jobs that are going to foreigners at the expense of Americans. The illegal aliens tend to take the lower paying jobs that black people won't do and white kids are no longer allowed to do.

Companies would rather hire a foreign national since that person can't demand a raise or just go across the street and get another job. A foreigner would have to go back to his country of origin and then start looking for a higher paying job. This keeps wages down for both the foreign national and the American worker. The massive legal immigrants add directly to the labor pool of American workers, driving down wages generally. This is simple supply and demand for labor.

Increase the supply of labor and the price of labor (wages) goes down. All of you "law abiding" that support LEGAL immigration are cutting your own throats, and the big corporations are helping you do that with work visas.

Nevertheless, the dumbed down masses cry for "legal" immigration while their paycheck whittles down to nothing and they can't afford to send their kids to college while the aliens go for free.

http://americandictators.blogspot.com/2014/01/16-house-republicans-to-obama-amnesty.html

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:40 | 4320292 akarc
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I was gonna up ya but I got lost with this one, "and white kids are no longer allowed to do." Never seen a grove willing turn away someone with a good back willing to work for nothing.

But yeah, corporations have it covered from all sides. Including the assholes who put the loopholes in the laws to allow it.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:16 | 4320509 BooMushroom
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Think child labor laws, work permit hoops to jump through, night work, anything requiring machinery (you have to be 18 to push the button on the trash compactor!!)

You have to be licensed to use weed killer, and you have to have a million-dollar insurance policy to cut mistletoe out of the trees inside city limits.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:37 | 4320592 akarc
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"Think child labor laws, work permit hoops to jump through, night work, anything requiring machinery" 

that explains,

"The illegal aliens tend to take the lower paying jobs that black people won't do and white kids are no longer allowed to do."

Well damn, guess we better get rid of the child labor laws.  

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 16:21 | 4320746 Tim_
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LePage revisits child-labor laws

"GOP policymakers in a few states raised the prospect of rolling back laws that prevent children from entering the workforce, and among others, Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) argued that federal child-labor laws are unconstitutional."

"But no one seemed quite as enthusiastic about undoing child-labor laws as Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R), who championed a measure in March 2011 that would not only allow kids as young as 12 to get jobs, but would also allow employers to pay children less than the minimum wage."

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 16:28 | 4320760 akarc
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Ya got to wonder who paid them off. God it makes me sick.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:01 | 4321149 dark pools of soros
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then I guess he would finally pay the kids he makes porn with

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:30 | 4320565 James_Cole
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Increase the supply of labor and the price of labor (wages) goes down. All of you "law abiding" that support LEGAL immigration are cutting your own throats, and the big corporations are helping you do that with work visas.

There are these places called 'other countries' which exist outside of the US.

Take a dash across the border into Mexico and you'll see familiar products being made via extreme low wage labour, take a trip further out and visit some 'free trade zones,' same shit. 

In America (in theory) workers will be treated according to American labour rights - and if they aren't there is some recourse - good luck extending that to workers in Bangladesh. Immigration is not the problem, downvote all you want, if you don't have some labour protections for American products it'll continue to be a race to the bottom. 

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:38 | 4320595 Handful of Dust
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Only a Gubmint "Job" is better then a Union Job.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 17:11 | 4320912 TheMeatTrapper
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As usual, your bleeding heart is showing. 

It's not about extending American values to other countries. How other nations treat their people, govern themselves and live their lives is of no business of ours. However, we do have the right to enforce tariffs and quotas on foreign countries if we deem them to be engaging in unfair business practices. 

As an example, the Europeans are NOT running sweatshops in their factories, but their governments subsidize companies such as Airbus. There is no worker mistreatment, but there is unfair business practices - just like our government subsidizes US corporations and industries.

Immigration IS the problem. A sound (and sane) immigration policy coupled with effective and honest business practices will go a hell of a long way to solving these problems - but then again, that doesn't accomplish the social welfare goals that you liberals are pushing, does it? 

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 18:18 | 4321066 James_Cole
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It's not about extending American values to other countries.

I specifically said American products.

if we deem them to be engaging in unfair business practices. 

but there is unfair business practices - just like our government subsidizes US corporations and industries.

but then again, that doesn't accomplish the social welfare goals that you liberals are pushing, does it? 

Not what I was trying to suggest. At some point the American consumer needs to demand proper labour practices for the products they consume or face the consequences of their own diminishing opportunities.

Doesn't matter how restrictive you make your immigration polices the products will obviously be made in the cheapest place with the fewest regulations. 

There are jobs which can't be outsourced, but as long as the manufacturing base is elsewhere these jobs will continue to see pressure on their wages regardless of immigration.

Temporary foreign workers is a whole other thing though and I've heard executives say things with regard to the joy of using guest workers that would really get Americans rioting in the streets. That's specifically * NOT * immigration though.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 19:10 | 4321173 dark pools of soros
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people who blame unions can't think past one step so it is beyond them to understand the collateral damage being done

 

nothing is really getting cheaper since the savings of cutting out unions and lowering worker pay just goes to the executives

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2012/05/ratio-ceo-worker-co...

 

it's rape and pillage and not some economic reality that is spoonfed to justify globalization's race to slave wages

 

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:09 | 4320213 VD
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gov killz all in end.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:09 | 4320214 ACP
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That's a government job.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:23 | 4320276 Grande Tetons
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Applicant, Hey, my Dad works here. 

HR Douche Bag, Really? 

Applicant,Yep. 

HR Douche Bag, When can you start? 

Somebody should have read the script to all those bastards standing in line. 

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:39 | 4320363 akarc
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I ain't up on much these days. Does Unions have HR departments?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:03 | 4320420 Grande Tetons
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Technically no. However, I thought HR Douche Bag was more eloquent than  Trade Union Monopolizing Labor Douche Bag.

I worked a couple union jobs as young punk and the only reason I was hired was because of connections. What a fucking shocker.  

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:04 | 4320472 akarc
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Worked Unions as a young punk myself. Didn't have no connections. Which I suspect is why  on a number of occasions as an apprentice I had to train somebody hired on as a journeyman. So yeah, corruption is everywhere. Unions are everywhere. They go by different names maybe, congress, lobbyist, PAC's, BBB, not for profits, church's.............. all seeking preferential treatment for their members. 

So in the end I have to ask myself why did Unions ever get a foothold in the first place?  And why did Corporations hire thugs to kill members with government assistance?

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" 

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:10 | 4320224 akarc
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Check with the SEC they always have folk coming and going.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 20:00 | 4321318 Yenbot
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I'm holding out for one of those union jobs where I can do nothing all day but watch porn and get paid and retire with a big pension.

BMUS: Prison Guard. Teamsters. Sign a card down at the Local today.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:18 | 4320221 TruthInSunshine
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Remember when illegal immigrants would camp out/loiter openly for the relatively easy prospect of hitching an approximately $15/hour job painting, hanging drywall, etc. in some part of California, Nevada, Arizona, New York City, etc.?

Now, 1,500 American born citizens wait in line in the freezing cold for a chance to land just one such job at a real rate of pay less than in the example above...

Because Obama... Because Bernanke...because McCain...because Piglosi...because Feinstein...because Harry Reid...because multinational corporations/banks...

Because "Average Americans Have Lost."

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:38 | 4320274 akarc
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"Because "Average Americans Have Lost."

Having willingly aided and abetted the enemy they surrendered. And still willing to bend over for the enemy.

We allowed, therefor we caused it! 

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:58 | 4320451 U4 eee aaa
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France....is envious!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 17:46 | 4321000 Freddie
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Idiots watching TV and Hollywood.  Two of the elites favorite tools to keep them serfs.  Conservatives think Fox News is their friend whihc is BS.  If half of America pulled the plug on TV and Hollywood then something might change.  They are too stupid to get it.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:21 | 4320275 Freddie
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Well the former head of the bank of israel does not have to wait in line for Obama to appoint him to the vice chair job at The Federal Reserve.   Sort of tells you who runs The Fed.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:33 | 4320338 disabledvet
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it should be worse actually. "that line should be a million people long." so, no...i'm not with you with McCain..nor Kerry...nor Chuck Hagel either. "these guys did their time" so they know who...and what...they're dealing with. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cyXO5tO6kw Especially Secretary of Defense Hagel. And his brother. Unlike Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon who had enemies so profound and deep people wondered if the Presidency itself would survive this war was not started on the premise of "America First" which i think goes a long way towards explaining...perhaps...the frustration of some. "This isn't Vietnam" though clearly defeat is more than option here. When wasn't it? As I recall "the war was never to be about...nor with...Islam." And obviously even if we had wanted to have the resources to do that we no longer do. America has no friends right now? NO PROBLEM. "We'll buy them if we have to." But this much I do know...these three guys know all there is to know about "the bugles call." It's just one of those things that makes this country a country. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKJeXDoqnw

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 20:31 | 4321410 Flakmeister
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Naming one Repug out of six is hardly apportioning the blame correctly or fairly....

BTW, The Corporations killed the middle class in the name of profits and massive pay increases for the officers....

The top 0.1% took ~90% of the productivity gains of the past 30 years all in the name of trickle down...

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:28 | 4320303 thunderchief
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And don't you dare call this a depression..

They're just motivated potential working "Stiffs."

No pun intended.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:35 | 4320346 Jannn
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Dutch Central Bank Tight-lipped About Gold Policy

 

http://www.ingoldwetrust.ch/dutch-central-bank-tight-lipped-gold-policy

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:00 | 4320162 JLee2027
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Recovery!

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:00 | 4320163 RacerX
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But this doesn't fit the narrative (where we need to import more cheap labor).

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:03 | 4320187 Bobbyrib
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You mean Amnesty?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:42 | 4320610 Harbanger
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That's striclty for creating a huge new Democrat voting base and to further dilute the culture.  The now disenchanted white democrats who voted for Obama were useful tools who won't matter going forward.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:57 | 4320676 Bobbyrib
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Yep, there is also the visa programs as well.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:06 | 4320197 replaceme
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The narrative is the truth, enjoy it.  Bask in its simplicity. 

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:19 | 4320265 RacerX
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"Come to Butthead.."

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:06 | 4320199 akarc
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Or export the heads of corporations who continue to advocate for slave labor.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:00 | 4320165 Critical Path
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Yes we can

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:00 | 4320166 suteibu
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$17.20?  Why that's barely above the upcoming minimum wage for fry cooks.  Suckers...they have to pay dues out of that, too.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:03 | 4320168 akarc
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In my neck of the woods, since there are no unions, they line up for any jobs. Paying a whole heap less. Whats the rent on a cardboard box in NYC?

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230391880457910777034...

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:25 | 4320542 Musashi Miyamoto
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If you want Recyclable its going to cost you... Beggars can't be choosers...

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:01 | 4320174 BandGap
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We're we just told by CNBC that the biggest part was getting people and employers to connect?

The new bread lines.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:04 | 4320193 Bobbyrib
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We're we just told by CNBC that the biggest part was getting people and employers to connect?

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

Translation: Let them eat cake.


Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:36 | 4320208 akarc
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Hmmm, so what did they do  to get the line. Put a freaking ad in the paper?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 15:04 | 4320426 PrecipiceWatching
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Really?

In the age of instant communication and the Internet they think they can get away with puerile misinfomation/propaganda like that?

They must be taking lessons in hilariously transparent grade school level lying from Clinton.

Thanks for confirming that I am not missing a thing by skipping the "news".

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 14:01 | 4320178 q99x2
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Somebody tell them about Bitcoin. 

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