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China Plans To Seize South China Sea Island From Philippines, Says "Battle Will Be Restricted"

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Following Japan's proclamations that it will take over another 280 'disputed ownership' islands, it appears the increasingly dis-approved of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's path of militarism and provocation is working. As China Daily Mail reports, citing experts, China intends to take back Zhongye Island - 'illegally' occupied by the Philippines, according to the Chinese. The Chinese navy has drawn a detailed combat plan to seize the island and the battle will be restricted within the South China Sea. Philippines military is building up on the island and the Chinese see as 'intolerable' the "arrogance" relying on US support. It seems the Obama administration may have to 'not take sides' in another fight soon.
 

 

Background on the build-up...

Eugenio Bito-onon Jr, mayor of the Kalayaan island group, part of the contested Spratly islands administered by the Philippines, recently confirmed that the Western Command of the Armed Forces of the Philippines has deployed new air force troops in rotation to the disputed island of Thitu, according to Jaime Laude in a report for the Manila-based Philippine Star on Jan. 5.

 

 

Known as Pag-asa in the Philippines and Zhongye island by both China and Taiwan, Thitu is the second largest in the Spratly island chain in the South China Sea and the largest of all Philippine-occupied Spratly islands.

 

Laude said that the air force troops were deployed to Thitu island by naval aircraft, which will give the residents of the island a chance to visit Kalayaan aboard the returning plane. He added that China's maritime expansion into the South China Sea continues to put pressure on the Philippines, and the Philippine Navy have also been stationed in the area to defend the islands.

 

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Six countries - Taiwan, China, the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei — claim in whole or part to the South China Sea and its island chains and shoals.

And the Latest Tensions...

Via China Daily Mail (translated from Chinese media),

Relying on US support, the Philippines is so arrogant as to announce in the New Year that it will increase its navy and air force deployment at Zhongye Island, a Chinese island that it has illegally occupied for years.

 

It will be an intolerable insult to China

 

According to experts, the Chinese navy has drawn a detailed combat plan to seize the island and the battle will be restricted within the South China Sea.

 

The battle is aimed at recovery of the island stolen by the Philippines from China.

 

There will be no invasion into Filipino territories.

 

A report in the Philippines Star confirmed the Philippines military buildup on the island.

Source: qianzhan.com “Sudden major move of Chinese troops this year to recover Zhongye Island by force”

 

Of course, claims that "battle will be restricted" are nothing but taunting and should China launch an offsensive here, we suspect the already dry and brittle tinder box in the South (and East) China Sea could rapidly escalate.

 


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Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:04 | Link to Comment Rising Sun
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with that fucking pussy in the White House, this is just another check on China's to-do list

 

fuck you Barry - useless tit

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:14 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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I can just see Hillary bowing to a Chinese Premiere while promising Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines, and South Korea that we "have their back" and won't let this go any further.

I wonder if she'll step off a plane waving a piece of paper in the air?

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:21 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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China has a lot of nerve claiming those island so far from their country and so close to others.

That would be like Poland claiming the Ukraine because they owned a lot of it in the 1500s - 1600s.

Or Arabs claiming to own Israel.  Or Mexico to own Texas (they may in 50 years...).  Or Spain to own Peru.  Or Mongolia to own Kazakhstan.  Or Portugal to own Brazil.

Etc................................

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:24 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Or since WE have the US Navy, maybe WE should just claim the ENTIRE S CHINA SEA beyond the countries' 12 mile limits...

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:41 | Link to Comment El Viejo
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Thanx to all the CEOs that made China what it is today.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:12 | Link to Comment zaphod
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This was government policy, CEOs just follow what they are told is legal.

It started with Nixon who btw was on the red-team. This is why I hate both teams.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:55 | Link to Comment PrecipiceWatching
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Nixon was a Republican, but not consistently by any stretch, on the "Red team".

 

 

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:19 | Link to Comment Yenbot
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RINO: Republican in name only. He gave Vietnam to Ho and went to China to bend over for Mao. He gave us the EPA. He killed the gold standard, gave us the plumbers- and killed the space program. There were two red teams at the time. He gave the US to Team #2.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:44 | Link to Comment lasvegaspersona
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Nixon's sins pale in comparison to Rooseveldt. He decided that the state was more important than the men in it. He claimed their real assets (gold) in the name of his progressive notion of statism. It was he who made the folks in DC feel superior to the folks in Peoria.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 23:22 | Link to Comment macholatte
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Or Arabs claiming to own Israel.  Or Mexico to own Texas (they may in 50 years...).  Or Spain to own Peru.  Or Mongolia to own Kazakhstan.  Or Portugal to own Brazil.

 

Sorry Do Chen, but, ah, The Arabs do claim to own Israel, Mexico claims it owns most of the western US, not sure about the others.

 

If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.

Albert Einstein

 

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

Mark Twain

I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.

Will Rogers

 

 

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 23:32 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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All of the above USED to own the land in question (and not anymore) was my point.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 00:17 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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China is not going to do shit about anything.  The US military is larger than the next 10 countries COMBINED.  The US military is absolutely nothing to fuck with.  The US public may be clueless, but China knows its hand is very limited.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 01:30 | Link to Comment den_by
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Militarty budget is the largest, but not the military, these are two different things. When bombs start flying , you don't need money, but men, ammo and equipment, and Chinese can produce it 10 times cheaper then we do. We can't even produce a plane without chinese parts.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 04:14 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Kerry will show'em.

He will throw his medals over the Great Wall.

 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 06:07 | Link to Comment old naughty
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"China has a lot of nerve claiming those island so far from their country and so close to others."

Well, drills at home...drills away.

Let's do a restricted battle there. I push my buttons, you push yours. 

Oh, if there's a fault or submerged volcano, all for the better!

Our fear-some pawn-masters will be smiling.

War drums getting loud, folks.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 07:47 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Evidently China hasn't seen Barry shoot skeet.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Rafferty
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Not only that.  The new US defense forces have been enriched to the extent that about half are now made up of minorities, immigrants looking for US citizenship and women.  As a fighting force it's been severely degraded.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:05 | Link to Comment Space Animatoltipap
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It's about conquering and strategic consequences. When the US goes to war with China how to actually conquer it? Just bombing is not enough. The US cannot even conquer Iraq or Afghanistan. It's really messy out there. And the US government and central command know it. They will choose "to manage". Meaning letting everything go to hell.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 05:56 | Link to Comment BringOnTheAsteroid
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"The US military is absolutely nothing to fuck with".

That my friend is why every US citizen should have trouble sleeping at night. The US nation doesn't exist anymore, it's riches have been strip mined, it's freedoms eroded, it's place in the world as a democracy becoming irrelevent. Keep buying guns and ammo people while you still can because you have in essence the biggest standing army in the world. Admittedly not very organised but with so many US citizens carrying firearms only 1 in 1000 bullets needs to hit it's target.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 00:33 | Link to Comment Greenskeeper_Carl
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Very true. The whole Nixon severing the dollar from gold thing is only partly true. It was a gold standard in name only after Roosevelt was through with it, making nixons action largely symbolic, merely removing the illusion. If you steal the people's gold and force them to turn it over to a PRIVATE group of bankers, and make it illegal to hold the very thing that supposedly backs the dollar, then it is already full blown fiat.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:49 | Link to Comment negative rates
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Our Navy is thin as a rail.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:56 | Link to Comment Spungo
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Technology to the rescue! 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMYYEsKvHvk

Soldiers are yesteryear. This year is all about rockets and giant explosions. 

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:17 | Link to Comment willwork4food
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@dcrb-dude I like you but I got to disagree with you on this one.The US does it too. What about Hawaii? What about the many territories under US rule in the south pacific? Alot of those islands were Chinas prior to WW2.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 00:19 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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Hawaii is a conquered nation.  China pretty much was all that for several hundred years.  The native american indians had a whole continent to themselves for thousands of years.  Things change... all the time.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 01:41 | Link to Comment mc225
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--Alot of those islands were Chinas prior to WW2.--

 

do you mean those were japan's islands prior to ww2? 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:03 | Link to Comment Cugel
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They all look alike

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 08:45 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Should just get all the participants into one grand arena on a neutral site and battle it out "Enter the Dragon" style.

PPV!

:)

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 10:40 | Link to Comment hero HNL
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Actually, the whole South China Sea was owned by Japan prior to

WWII. The Japanese mined them for phosphorus. That's one reason

Taiwan as Japan's former colony has claim to those islands.

 

After the war, Japan gave up the islands according the the San Fransico

Peace Treaty of 1951 officially terminating WWII.

 

HTH, hero

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:12 | Link to Comment Smegley Wanxalot
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Barry will only deploy a defense if there are golf courses there.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:26 | Link to Comment laosuwan
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and bath houses

and pot

and crack

and teleprompters

and minarets

and interns who can make short forms on illustrator

and...

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:33 | Link to Comment Zero Point
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Thin as a wha?

Fuck sake man, 39% of defense spending globally, is still spent by the US alone.

 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:56 | Link to Comment mumcard
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How much of that cash goes into bank accounts and how much is actually used to develop defense weaponry?

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:16 | Link to Comment Son of Captain Nemo
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Of course the U.S. is provoking the Chinese on this and to say otherwise is to call into question everything else we do and have done to antagonize them with respect to the "string of pearls".

Let's ask Pakistan about the Port of Gwadar and the total lack of interference by NATO and the U.S.???  If we're hoping that the idle threats will get China to back down once again for old "round eyes" after more than 170 years of abuse -I think we're in for a rude awakening this time around!

And to all those guys in uniform that want to participate after the fiasco they've created for themselves and the rest of the World in the Middle East -you might want to think about that one very carefully!

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:19 | Link to Comment willwork4food
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+10. Those guys in uniform that joined so they could get a good college education will get an education, but it won't be in college.

 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 00:27 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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+1 The sailors on the Ronald Reagan have gotten quite the lesson on radiation poisoning!  http://www.opednews.com/articles/Toll-of-U-S-Sailors-Devas-by-Harvey-Was...

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:20 | Link to Comment Cugel
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The problem for China isn't the US, it's the rest of Asia. The reason the US held so much power in Asia is that no Asian country will tolerate an Asian hegemon other that itself. They can grab that island but when the riots end they'll have lost their fifth column in the Philippines and possibly beyond. Momentum will demand a followup, but there's no place to go. This is not a winning strategy for them.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:53 | Link to Comment Zero Point
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Be funny if Vietnam stuck their hand up as well.

I actually can imagine Vietnam allying themselves more with the Phillipines than with their ancient enemy, China.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:50 | Link to Comment Muppet Pimp
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All the vietnamese I know call themselves chinese and claim China is going to take over the world.  Anecdotal, just sayin

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 23:31 | Link to Comment Son of Captain Nemo
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And why wouldn't the Vietnamese want to stay under the "love umbrella" of the United States Government with TPP and new military bases on their soil?

After all. Nothin says lovin like...

- Nearly 3 million Vietnamese murdered with Uncle Sam's helpin hands in that conflict to stop the spread of "terrorism" communism.

- More dynamite and napalm dropped on that Country in less than 10 years than was dropped on Europe and the Pacific in WWII.

- Cancer rates from all the wonderful Dow products (among others) that still contribute to birth defects and cancer that affects 1 in 5 with a mortality rate to match 39 years later due to the toxins in the soil and water.

What's not to love?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:43 | Link to Comment Yenbot
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And nothin' says lovin' like kickin' Ho when he's down: unbeknownst to most Americans is the fact that China INVADED VIETNAM AFTER THE AMERICANS LEFT. No Vietnamese will ever say Muppetcrap like Pimp is spewin', see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War...

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:44 | Link to Comment Zero Point
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LOL. Beat me to it, I was just editing my post when I saw yours.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 10:59 | Link to Comment Zwelgje
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LOL. AS if the border conflict between Viet Nam and China in '79 and the American war against Viet Nam are comparable.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 11:02 | Link to Comment merizobeach
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China invaded Vietnam.. and got their asses kicked back to China.  The Vietnamese are tough.  They're unlike people in neighboring countries, and it can take some getting used to.  That said, I thoroughly enjoyed my brief six weeks traveling the country.

After ten years of the Vietnamese kicking French ass, France went home, only to be replaced by America, who themselves wanted ten years of getting their own asses kicked.  The Vietnamese all along taking a Rocky-esque pounding, and enduring, then fend off China and finally have their homeland to themselves.  But they weren't quite finished because there was this psychotic, Chinese-allied dictatorship genociding its people next door, so before the Vietnamese army rested, they went next door and evicted the Khmer Rouge, re-establishing the Cambodian monarchy.  I understand that there is a lot of historical animosity between the various tribes of SE Asia, but I applaud the Vietnamese for going far out of their way and restoring peace to the region at incredible cost.

With regard to the earlier comment about the three million murdered, there was an additional three million that died of cancers and poisoning, and an additional three million babies stillborn or born with defects.  I don't know any stats about maimings, orphanings, etc.  But I can say that the war museum in Saigon is as educational as it is horrific; there ought to be a documentary of the place, particularly the dioxin wing, for those who will never visit there.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 11:46 | Link to Comment Son of Captain Nemo
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Well said brother.

What most ignorant Americans still don't know or understand is that Ho Chi Minh was willing to accomodate the American military in his back yard after WWII if they would agree to keep the French out of Vietnam.

Truman would not make that a reality.  And we should be asking the question -Why?

What did we get instead sixteen years later for not making that a reality?  59,000 dead Americans and 3 million dead (enemy non-combatants)/communists, civilians.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:43 | Link to Comment Zero Point
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Fuck me, the Vietnamese I went to school with hated China WAY more than the US.

Mind you, they'd fled the Commies in boats, so I guess my anecdotal sample is as useless as yours.

China actually invaded Vietnam AFTER the US pulled out, as part of their long struggle with the USSR, who had far more influence on Vietnam.

But, you know, your friends call themselves Chinese and all.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Mine Is Bigger
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Even China's claim to the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands seems to be based merely on the islands mentioned in historical documents.  Mongolia has a stronger case for claiming parts of Europe than that!

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:33 | Link to Comment The Heart
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Coming to a theater near you soon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK53IQyXEjc

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:38 | Link to Comment onewayticket2
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"I spent Christmas Eve, 1968 on that island...they love me there"

John Kerry

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:45 | Link to Comment knukles
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Oh, the memories of Purple Hearts and staple removers.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:51 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Cool.. great apocalyptic mix..

If I was a Flip, I would not be holding my breath for B.O. to take a stand against the Great Creditor.

He will likely say it’s just time to chill with a cool San Miguel and a warm balut.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:04 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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But does Charlie's friend surf?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 00:42 | Link to Comment Greenskeeper_Carl
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+1 haha great creditor

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:38 | Link to Comment Ranger_Will
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And why should we stick out our necks for any of this?

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:42 | Link to Comment knukles
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Check it out on Google earth.
Fucking noting shit hole in the middle of nowhere.

Hmmmm.....

Sombody's flexing their big dick muscle...

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:48 | Link to Comment kliguy38
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note to Uncle Sam......."we're not Iraq" ....and if ya wanna trade casualties......then "game on" bitchez!

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:02 | Link to Comment Mr Pink
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We won't, unless oil is discovered on the island or the Saudis need to run a pipeline 

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:43 | Link to Comment suteibu
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America holds sway over the ASEAN nations by security agreements when most would rather trade with China without all of this kind of bullshit.  If the US abandons the Philippines on this, a lot of other regional nations will take a second look at their deal with the US.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:05 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Taiwan is where shit gets real, yo.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:11 | Link to Comment suteibu
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Perhaps.  But there are a lot of Taiwanese who would just as soon be like Hong Kong just to stop the bullshit there, too.  The Taiwanese government is heavily supported by the US just to make sure a unification government is not elected (same in South Korea).

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 23:40 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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I wouldn't be so sure 'bout that. When I talk to people in Taiwan or who hail from there, I always and forever get the very concrete impression that they'd sooner perish than be re-incorporated into China, and that they'd burn any Taiwanese Politician at the stake if he suggested anything but firm resistance to China.

The U.S. and Taiwan have a quite serious defense pact whereby the U.S. is obligated to defend Taiwan in the eventuality of Chinese aggression for this very reason.

In some ways, Taiwan is even more zealously safeguarded in a tactical sense by the U.S. than Japan or even South Korea.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 00:32 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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Taiwan is home to Taiwan Semiconductor.  Shit would stop being made if something happened to them.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 10:49 | Link to Comment hero HNL
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As a Taiwanese Japanese, I can tell you that most people in Taiwan will resist being a part of china. It's better to die than being red.

 

The current president Ma is too pro-mainland & his approval rating is only 9.8%. He is from the mainland & considered an outsider in Taiwan. He may eventually be forced to resign for being stupid.

 

HTH, hero

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:45 | Link to Comment Musashi Miyamoto
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http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2013/10/31/2003575806

"However, the poll found that most respondents favored independence over unification if they were asked to choose between just those two options, with 71 percent supporting independence and only 18 percent supporting unification with China.

With regards to identity, 78 percent of those polled identified themselves as Taiwanese, while 13 percent saw themselves as Chinese."

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 09:57 | Link to Comment suteibu
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I am aware of the polls.  Yet nearly twenty percent are in favor and, as we should all know these days, money and politics speaks louder than popular opinion and there are plenty of both beginning to float across the straits from China.  My point is that China has no need to invade Taiwan.  Eventually, an agreement of some kind (similar to Hong Kong with large amounts of autonomy) will happen without a war.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:50 | Link to Comment merizobeach
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Those "nearly twenty percent" are the relics that remain of the two million-plus Chinese that invaded Taiwan six decades ago, plus some of their children, and a few of their grandchildren.  It became obvious to that ruling party fourteen years ago that their days were numbered, and that's why they began traitorous reunification negotiations.  Most Taiwanese just want peace and prosperity, and they naively fail to understand the threats actively working against them.  The current president is a traitor who was born in Hong Kong to a Chinese family who were residents of the mainland.  (In his name, Ma Ying-Jeou, as he spells it, the 'jeou' ('jiu' in standard pinyin) is the same character of 'Jiu-lun', or Kowloon in English, named after the location of the hospital where he was born.)  Unfortunately, as the ruling party continues to engage in pervasive vote buying, the minority of cognizant Taiwanese see their country slipping away from them as Americans did during Clinton/Bush.

Armed conflict with China would bring incredible hardship to Taiwan, especially as their military has decayed over the past decade.  America's treaty to defensively equip Taiwan has been neglected on account of diplomatic/ecomonic pressures from China as well as the US military's (wise) mistrust of Taiwan's president.  Another downside for China regarding the prospect of armed conflict is that it would render Taiwan an economic liability rather than an asset if acquired militarily.  But I suppose the sociopaths that control China's government and military might see that as an acceptable cost of necessary punishment administered.

The agreement of which you speak, of which I forewarned five years ago, is in the works.  It begins with military 'trust building' and a slew of 'cross-strait' trade agreements, all non-negotiable in the legislature.  Public referendum petitions are discarded on account of political disagreement by the party in power (which recently reworked legislative districts and election procedures to tighten its stranglehold).

The Taiwanese are a wonderful people, and they do not deserve the suffering that is progressively poised to befall them, except that they are ignorantly failing to protect their own long-term interests.  Sadly, this seems to be a common theme around the globe these days.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:37 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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It's like science, bitch.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:17 | Link to Comment Spanky
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+1

For...

If the US abandons the Philippines on this, a lot of other regional nations will take a second look at their deal with the US. -- suteibu

Including, perhaps, the House of Saud?

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:54 | Link to Comment flapdoodle
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I dunno, those islands are pretty close to Brunei, so meethinks oil must be part of the equation...

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:08 | Link to Comment Mine Is Bigger
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I think it is about the sea lane and access to the Ocean than oil in this particular case.  Look at the map, China does not really have a wide clear passage to open seas.  The space between Japan and Taiwan and the Philippines and Taiwan hold best promises for China.  I suspect the issue on Senkaku/Diaoyu islands may also be more about the sea passage than the potential oil reserves.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 23:59 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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I'm no Sun Tzu, but I'd be shocked if China's military brass didn't deem the sea lanes around Taiwan as of upmost strategic significance, for military & commercial purposes.

A nice artery and/choke point, that...

Similarly, I'd be shocked if they didn't consider Taiwan as a gem and jewel in terms of a military staging island, in much the same way the U.S. & Soviet Union considered Cuba, but only more so.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:08 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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OIL...Undersea Oil Deposits.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 03:57 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Maybe to get Subic back?

And maybe for those quiet and tranquil nights serenely sauntering the streets of Olangapo.

 

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:55 | Link to Comment seek
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It does have a lot of nerve. However, since there's other islands much closer to home who's ownership is in dispute, perhaps the diplomatic settlement will give them those in exchange for giving up a clearly bogus claim on something more distant. AKA this is a negotiating tactic. I think they're making it pretty clear they'll continue to destabilize the region until they get what they originally wanted, the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands... because of oil.

Note that they've made claims on the Spratly islands for something close to 50 years now, so this isn't a new dispute.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:32 | Link to Comment Spanky
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+1

For...

AKA this is a negotiating tactic. I think they're making it pretty clear they'll continue to destabilize the region until they get what they originally wanted, the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands... because of oil. -- seek

Perhaps. But considering the US / China are engaged in a currency war, perhaps they are targeting the guarantor of the petrodollar: the House of Saud.

The US gov faces a Hobson's choice here: a) acede Chinese demand over some relatively unimportant islands clearly within their "sphere of influence"; or b) honor our mutual aid and defense treaties w/ the agrieved parties (notice there are several parties now, not just Japan).

What message does a) send the House of Saud, so soon after Syria and its Russian defense? Flexing their muscles indeed -- any oil in the islands is simply a cherry on top...

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 09:25 | Link to Comment TheFutureReset
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+10

Very likely, or even aimed at Japan itself. If the US abandons the Phillipines what message does that send Japan about Senkaku? The US will probably respond stupidly with some show of force. But this isn't about brut force, it's about subtle positioning. 

What can the US do financially to counter? Treasuries? Or will the US send some signal to Saudi to reinforce our relationship? 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 10:20 | Link to Comment TheFutureReset
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More taper. Rates rise. EMs crushed. China mad.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:14 | Link to Comment Spanky
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It is indeed aimed at Japan, as it would be disasterous to aim at the Saudis (directly). From China's perspective this is a win - win, just like their oil and gas deal with Russia outside the petrodollar regieme. The House of Saud is well aware of the dollar's ills and China's rise; the only reason to stick with Uncle Sam is "security". Call that into question and...

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 00:00 | Link to Comment Things that go bump
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Yes, and Argentina still wants the Falklands. Unaccountably, the current inhabitants remain unimpressed with the rightousness of Argintina's claim, overwhelmingingly voting in March to remain a British Territory. Insulted, yet undeterred, Argentina says it was an illegal referendum, and the UN, Pope Francis and Christ almighty back their claim. They find Britain's refusal to come to the negotiation table for the last 22 years highly offensive. They mutter darkly once again about fighting to the last breath of every Argentinian man, woman and child to reacquire their erstwhile territory. Britain apparently has established a military presence in the Falklands, refuses to admit or deny allegations of nuclear submarines in the vacinity and appears prepared once again to defend the very sheep dung on those rocks. 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 00:47 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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The Brits gave the Argentinians a helluva ass whippin'  Apparently the learning curve is not very steep in Argentina.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:27 | Link to Comment Things that go bump
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I read some analyses at the time that indicated they never believed the Brits would fight over some rocks and a few sheep farmers. They would present the Brits with a fait accompli and maybe pay some small restitution if pressed. Apparently, they didn't know the English or their history very well or simply did not draw the same conclusion I do from a 2000 year history of warfare. Once they'd realized their error, it was too late and honor was involved. I think this is just puffery and sword rattling in hopes of grasping some advantage. They almost sound French, or maybe they're just asking themselves if they feel lucky.

And speaking of history, the Chinese don't have much of a history of being an aggressor nation, except for the brief abberation of the Mongol dynasty. The tone of their rhetoric is sounding a bit French too.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:23 | Link to Comment jaxville
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DCRB

 

   etc...Or like Jews claiming Palestine?

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:41 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Well....

Like the Iriquois claiming New York (take it!)?  Or like the British claiming India?  Or like Dutch claiming S. Africa?  Like the Danes claiming Sicily?  Like the Macedonians claiming Persia?  Or...

***

The Jews are THERE now.  You want to move them?

Where are all the Chinese in the Spratleys?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:22 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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How about they stop the ongoing theft and colonization and displacement and murder??

Or is it not theft when they do it>?

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:57 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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Or like "Jews" claiming "Judea and Samaria" - right, DoChen?

 

 

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 23:36 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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They are already there, unlike the Mongols in Kazakhstan, Iriquois in New York, etc.  I presume you want to move the Jews, right?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:21 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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Uhm, they are currently colonizing the West Bank in a slow burn ethnic cleansing.

I presume you employ a lot of double standards.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 04:16 | Link to Comment Musashi Miyamoto
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The Chinese have occupied the Cuarteron Reef (section of disputed island archipelago) since '88. They have claims even farther south than Spratly; Check out the James Coal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Shoal

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 09:59 | Link to Comment viedoklis_lv
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"Or Arabs claiming to own Israel."

Didn't those jews claimed that it's their land based on thousands year old stories in bible etc.? And than using brutal military force (supported by Rothschild) occupied palestinian land and now keep them under occupation?

Tue, 01/14/2014 - 02:05 | Link to Comment sbfeibish
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Remember the Falklands.  They ain't makin land anymore.  A country doesn't want to lose any part of its territory if it can help it.  Just because an island isn't next to a country doesn't mean a country doesn't have claim to it.  (And on that note, look up what we did with Diego Garcia:)

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:14 | Link to Comment quintago
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Fear of default is screwing us and this country. We should have let GS, AIG, and all the other financial entities default in 2008-2009, and we should also tell the Chinese we're making all debt held by PRC a special class of asset...the type we are going to default on.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:18 | Link to Comment Oldballplayer
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If you are in a state of war with another country, canceling that debt is a legal act of war. It does not make a whole lot of sense to send checks to the guy to whom you are also sending bullets.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:22 | Link to Comment willwork4food
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Actually Old, it makes perfect sense. As long as your credit limit is not tarnished globally and you send the rift raft out to catch the bullets. No problems.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:02 | Link to Comment SMG
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Nah, Barry is just dancing for us as the Oligarchs pull his strings.  He's not the one in control.

The plan is to have a depopulating WWIII with the US vs Russia/China.  It will begin with a nuclear first strike on the US.

http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html

Then the Oligarchs form an NWO coalition and take over everything.

Hopefully this can be stopped, but if not, don't despair, prepare.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 23:16 | Link to Comment Muppet Pimp
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Vlad would be better served by building some factories and putting his people to work if the chinese decide to start a fight and subsequently return to the rice paddy. 

Hey Vlad, we hear you are starting a new trade union with some of the old Baltic guys.  We have got China down here picking fights with our Phillipino friends, so we may need a new place for all these factories.  This could be the opening you were looking for.  You got any room up there to move all these factories? You got any folks that need work?

Let us know if you want in on a piece of the action. We are pretty fed up with the low quality we are getting from these guys anyway. 

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:26 | Link to Comment Jannn
Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:34 | Link to Comment sylviasays
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While China is threatening military action to take a island, California has been invaded by millions of illegal aliens without a shot being fired.

Legislation passed by the Democratic-controlled Legislature and signed into law in October 2013 by Democrat Gov. Jerry Brown allows illegal aliens to obtain driver’s licenses, become lawyers, and qualify for in-state tuition at California’s university and college systems.

Now, Democrat State Sen. Ricardo Lara has said that immigration status should be irrelevant if the goal of the federal healthcare law is to provide coverage to the uninsured so he will introduce legislation to involve the state in providing coverage to those in the country illegally.

Since federal law bars those in the country illegally from obtaining coverage through Covered California, alternatives that Democrats are examining include a further expansion of Medi-Cal, California's health program for the poor, or the creation of a separate program within or outside of Covered California that might provide subsidies from the state but not the federal government.

http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-healthcare-immigration-20140111,0,758...

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:43 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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Texas and California were both taken from the Mexicans by armed force. It seems they are taking them back just by force of numbers. It is a wish of the Democratic party that Mexico get these lands back. They hope for votes, what they will get in the long run is kicked out of the new Mexican republics of Texas and California, for Mexicans don't want gringos on their lands, even if they are Democrats.

I see a major conflict brewing. Texas is minorty white, and will soon be majority Mexican. What then good old Texas boys? What do you do I wonder?

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:58 | Link to Comment Muppet Pimp
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That right there is funny, I don't care who you are.  The tejano people are hard workers and will leave all that politics stuff up to the Texans.  They like having jobs above all else.  Great people I was raised with them.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 23:58 | Link to Comment TuPhat
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I wish that was true Muppet.  Or did you forget the sarc tag?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:31 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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I don't think most intelligent people think they're "undesireables" in the sense of not hard working, like most people basically good etc.

 

The question is - should we keep allowing hundreds of thousands into the country every year to change the language, culture, and yes ethnic makeup.  Now, I speak passable spanish and love big titted Latinas, so I don't stay up at night worrying, but it seems to me legitimate for any nation or people to not be overwhelmed with foreigners who speak a foreign language, etc.

And yes, I'm also aware that most immigrant groups faced the same backwards know-nothing position I'm suggesting - also horseshit...things arent the same right now as they were in the 1840s or 1890s, and up until the immigration reforms of the late 60s, this country used to have "pauses".

 

With high unemployment - wtf are we importing an army of low wage workers who dont speak the language and disproportionately cost the taxpayer.  Can we stop excluding the fucking middle - no,most illegal immigrants dont come here hoping to get on welfare and the 'stealing our jahbs' thing is overstated but not entirely untrue either.  The question for me is - is it good for the country, right now - really?

I can't see how.  And I can't see how that smug righteousness immigration "advocates" employ constitutes a coherent argument either.  If we needed workers and all them crackers were just afeared of the brown people - okay I'm on board that's fucked up.

 

But right now I think it's fucked up to keep letting them pour in, use services, and not sign the fuckin' guest book.  I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but what I've seen so far from the Left and the 'open borders are wonderful' strain of Libertarian thinking strikes me as unmitigated horseshit right now.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 23:02 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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Oh please, go fuck yourself. 

 

The Mexicans took it from the Spaniards who took it from Native Americans.

 

They had barely developed it. The question now is this invasion good for this country   if course its not.

 

Mexico sucks, therefore allowing it to move here is harmful. P.C. bullshit aside, that's about it.

 

Texans didn't want it but it happened anyway. You have to wonder why.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 23:56 | Link to Comment TuPhat
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I plan to move further north, Jack.  They have taken over a lot of Texas already and I don't speak spanish.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 09:20 | Link to Comment americanreality
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Don't move too far north please.  We have the same problem in the upper midwest.  Asians, Somalians, Mexicans, you name it.  They are in the cities and the small towns.  They may be good people but we are above a comfortable capacity and its only hurting wages and draining social services. 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 10:16 | Link to Comment TuPhat
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I hear ya.  I plan to move further north in Texas.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:39 | Link to Comment 90's Child
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Sum Ting Wong

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:48 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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China basically has the petrodollar by the short-hairs.

Pushing all other issues aside, do the criminals of the US government really have any choice but to acquiesce?!

If it weren't for the coming tragedy to the American people, it all would be funny.

 

"Guillotines take out the trash."

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:04 | Link to Comment Againstthelie
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Do you really believe the Phillippines are acting that way without the backing of an evil force?

Washington obviously wants to destabalize the region.

One must not forget, that the international banksters regime was also successful with that tactics regarding Poland and Germany. Since Hitler had taken power the very bad relationships (because of the stolen land) improved dramatically, since Hitler did not demand all the land back. He suggested only a corridor to Danzig.

All seemed that Poland and Germany would solve the problems soon, when suddenly freemason and globalist Churchill offered Poland the unconditional support, no matter what Poland would do, even if it would attack Germany. That way the sane Polish forces were put checkmate and the tragedy took it's course.

 

One can only hope the Phillippines are more clever than the Poles but it does not look that way.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:06 | Link to Comment yrbmegr
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This is a diversion.  China is trying to direct attention, both domestically and internationally, away from its crashing economy.  One of two things is happening.  Either something really bad is happening to China's economy, or the government is about to take some drastic action, which they would prefer not to be widely reported.  So, everybody look over there.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 23:44 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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...chicken dinner!

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 01:27 | Link to Comment ronaldawg
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Gay squirrel...

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 11:09 | Link to Comment hero HNL
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Exactly true....If you read Taiwan or Japanese newspapers, they've been saying the same thing for the last few yrs.....very common practice.

 

China & even South Korea has a habit of finding external enemies to divert attention from internal dissent. In the past, the scapegoat has always been Japan.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 00:23 | Link to Comment AGuy
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<---- USA is pulling the strings of Japan/Philippines to force a conflict with China.

<---- Japan and the Philippines are instigating this alone with no pressure from USA

 

Vote!

 

FWIW: Its appears to me that the USA is getting Japan and now the Philippines to seize these Islands to force China into a conflict. I would have bought the story that Japan was alone instigating China. But now with a repeat of exactly the same policy with the Philippines, its all too much to not believe Washington is pushing them. The Philippines does what the US tells it do as we ever since the US <strike>Liberated</strike> ceased control during WW2. Hopefully China will figure it out before this escalates into a hot war. Perhaps this is occurring because China is dumping US gov't bonds and buying up all the gold.

 

 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:18 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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Perhaps this is occurring because China is dumping US gov't bonds and buying up all the gold.

 No...

 

OIL

 

We are not that damned petty.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:04 | Link to Comment Muppet Pimp
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The US can and will provide defense for our allies in the Phillipines.  Grab your popcorn.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:32 | Link to Comment chump666
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With tactical nukes?  We should march on Washington on the day and remove Obama from office.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:21 | Link to Comment Van Halen
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We'll never march. I attempted to contact a whole bunch of the more Conservative, anti-Obama blogs about organizing a march - against Obama and the GOP too. Most didn't respond. The handful that did had no interest and one even said the solution was to run for office. What a disgrace. I can't march alone. But I don't know anyone who will march with me. We should be organizing for late June, early July - a march on DC. Because if we don't start protesting peacefully, we're going to find ourselves un-peacefully in a really bad place not long from now.

We cannot run and hide from this bunch. They are ruthless and will not stop in their quest for money and power. Every single day they make major gains while we sit watching. We have to march down to DC and tell them to cut the crap immediately or get the hell out. Whether they listen or not is another story and we'll worry about it when we get to that point. But nothing - NOTHING is going to get done until we march. And forget about changing anything at the polls.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Mike in GA
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This is an organization that is planning on marching in May, I think.  Maybe try to coordinate with them.  I agree about the "vote".  But marching has to be BIG, really big.

http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:35 | Link to Comment Spanky
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It's hard for astroturf to do anything other than fundraise and propagandize...

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:45 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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Grass Roots? There is none. It's all corporate fronts.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 00:02 | Link to Comment TuPhat
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You are right again, Jack.  Prepare for defense of yourself and family.  Non violent aggression (marching) is useless.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:24 | Link to Comment Drifter
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"But nothing - NOTHING is going to get done until we march."

"We have to march down to DC and tell them to cut the crap immediately or get the hell out"

Nothing would get done then either.  They don't listen to the people anymore.  Not even a million. 

Go ahead, have your march, see for yourselves.

"We'll never march."

That's right, you won't.  Everybody else knows it would accomplish nothing.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:05 | Link to Comment QQQBall
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Any good golf courses?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:26 | Link to Comment HardlyZero
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Small island 1 sq. mile.   One picture just shows an extended landing strip on the island and not much else above water....its like six hundred acres.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FogVMqcRTzE

China threatens to invade Pag-Asa Island this year; President Aquino and his Govt are now warned
http://defenders-philippine-sovereignty.blogspot.com/2014/01/china-threatens-to-invade-pag-asa.html

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 11:13 | Link to Comment hero HNL
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Watch out Philippines....china is coming after you after they gave up on Japan.

 

You better get ready.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:05 | Link to Comment billwilson
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Look at the map. Look at how far they claim their waters reach - insane.

These islands are NOWHERE near China. What a bunch of greedy assholes.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:25 | Link to Comment Sabibaby
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Shit, in the US we conquer countries on the other side of the planet!

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:49 | Link to Comment BigJim
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Yeah, but we always give them their countries back after we liberate them... and donate them a BIS-connected central bank, of course.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:25 | Link to Comment willwork4food
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That's not how it works. We make sure any gold or PMs are confiscated, illegal drugs, oil is controlled and paid with US$ and last but definitely not least make sure their banking structure relies on USD.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:40 | Link to Comment JackWills
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Long term watch for Chinese plans on Australia, tons of resources, only twenty some odd million people.  Easy place to gain majority population in.  They are already heavily investing there.  Give it 100 years that will be their lebensraum, count on it.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:47 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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I have a friend in Perth. I asked her this and also why with all the empty lands that immigration isn't thrown wide open. Her answer was in one word "Water". OZ ain't got it and large populations need lots of it.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 02:37 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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Why would, anyone want to become a minority in their own land? It isn't "racist" to want to remain what you are -even if its a bunch of evil white people.

By the way, Jack, the Chinese are some of the most racist people/culture going.  Even Chinese peasants tend to think of, say, southeast asians as barbarians.  I think you can give them a pass on their dislike of the Japanese, who are also pretty racist.

 

Its no skin off my ass, but this notion its {necessarily} racist to want to remain a majority X nation is simply horseshit - esp cuz it only seems to apply to whites.

I don't myself worry about the ethnic make up of the US, but I also think it's entirely natural to not want to become a minority in your own homeland.  More to the point, though, I don't think uncontrolled immigration during a quasi-depression is good for anyone but the corporations you so often {rightly} criticize.

 

More cannon fodder for the wars, I suppose. Votes for the Dems and cheap labor for the GOP.  But good for the country?  Doubtful.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:31 | Link to Comment jerry_theking_lawler
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So, is anyone going to ask if they have an actual VALID claim to the land? Who care how far it is away from the mainland, if it is theirs it is theirs.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:22 | Link to Comment laosuwan
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well it certainly seems that china WONT ask anyone if its claim is valid

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:28 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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Define "valid".  

Only rule I see being followed lately is "might makes right."  Everything else is a useless UN protest.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:11 | Link to Comment Againstthelie
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The shocking thing is, that the western sheeple will not hear the Chinese arguments and will not even ask what their arguments are.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:40 | Link to Comment 29.5 hours
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"What a bunch of greedy assholes."

Yeah, that's just what a bunch of major European powers said about the U.S. when they took the Philippines from Spain and the Filipinos...

 

 

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:03 | Link to Comment Tulpa
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That was totally different.  The Phillippines were the spoils of war, not a US territorial claim.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:13 | Link to Comment Againstthelie
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China does not claim the Phillippines as their territory, but certain islands.

What do you know about the history, culture and ethnics of these islands?

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:49 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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Americans get mad when any nation dares play the American's own game. Look around youm the US occupies with it's military most nations on earth, even Australia must now have a US Marine force on their soil. That is rank madness!

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 01:57 | Link to Comment HardlyZero
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Found this online...truth or consequences.

China will never accept the Philippines' illegal seizure of the Ren'ai Reef in any form. We urge the Philippines not to take any action that may complicate the situation," spokeswoman Hua Chunying said at a daily press briefing.

Hua's comments came after Philippine Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin said the Philippines was free to undertake any activity in the Ren'ai Reef without notifying China.

Hua recalled how a Philippine warship illegally landed on the beach of the Ren'ai Reef of China's Nansha Islands in 1999, claiming it had been stranded.

Since then, China has repeatedly demanded that the Philippines tow the warship, but the Philippines has cited "technical reasons" for its failure to do so, Hua said.

"The Philippines' actions violated the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea," Hua said, adding that Philippine warship's landing on the beach is illegal.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:31 | Link to Comment 29.5 hours
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"spoils of war, not a US territorial claim"

Good point. Let's hope the current sets of contending politicians will observe the logical niceties...

 

 

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 22:07 | Link to Comment samsara
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They are so far a way from China, how can they claim rights?

That be like trying to claim Guam or Diego Garcia.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:06 | Link to Comment 20834A
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On the road to WWIII. God forfend.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:06 | Link to Comment topspinslicer
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No one likes to be bullied. It was getting rather boring anyways. Lots of patriots out there that like patriotic music.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 21:21 | Link to Comment laosuwan
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kids in chinese schools are taught that australia belongs to china and will one day be taken back.

 

they think long term

 

but always the same, avaricious

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:08 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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Geez, look at the pot belly on that red line. 

When they finish with the Pacific it'll likely include Santa Catalina.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:09 | Link to Comment bugs_
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what a bunch of running dog imperialists!

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:10 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Funny, it looks a lot closer to the Philippines than China or Taiwan.

Farther away, even, is Japan; and I seem to remember battles being fought over the Phillipines with Japan.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:16 | Link to Comment Gunga
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Maybe Americas military indjstrial complex won't have any politicians paid for and clamoring for us to get involved in this one.

Sun, 01/12/2014 - 20:23 | Link to Comment Yenbot
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The Falklands Principle: islands belong to Islanders.

Here are our US Treaty Obligations with the Philippines: http://www.state.gov/s/l/treaty/collectivedefense/.

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