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Chart Of The Day: Labor Force (Lack Of) Participation Or "We'll Just Make It Up As We Go Along"

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By now the widely accepted groupthink on the collapsing labor force participation rate, which as we noted last Friday, cratered to a fresh 35 year low of 62.8% which was the main reason for the collapse in the unemployment rate to 6.7% from 7.3% two months ago, is that it was perfectly expected and is largely due to demographics. Sadly this is just another example of goalseeking a real-time variable to "fit" with a narrative of a recovery when in reality there is no recovery for the record 91.8 million Americans who have given up on work entirely and are now out of the labor force.  All of this is well-known. What may not be as well known is that every two years the BLS releases medium-term (10-year) projections for the participation rate. The projections include the demographic composition of the population and the LFP rates of different  demographic groups, among other statistics. And it is here that we see just how "made up" the narrative surrounding the demographic mea culpa truly is.

Presenting exhibit A: "Labor force projections to 2012: the graying of the U.S. workforce", released by BLS' Mitra Toossi in February 2004. Jumping to the punchline, here is what the BLS expected a decade ago:

  • Total Civilian Labor Force forecast in 2012: 162,269
  • Total civilian non-institutional population: 241,604

Or, a predicted labor force participation rate of 67.2%, or notably higher than the 66.0% as of the report's publication in February 2004.

Where are we now?

  • Total Civilian Labor Force at December 2012: 155,485, just under 7 million less than was expected (and this with the so-called recovery)
  • Total Civilian non-institutional population at December 2012: 244,350, or 3 million more than expected.

Net: a 10 million worker delta! Does this mean that, gasp, America's demographic crunch and "Baby Boomers are retiring" meme were unknown just ten short years ago? Apparently yes. Because somehow the 67.2% expected LFP at the end of 2012 ended up being 63.6% and sliding. And the punchline - if one were to use the expected 67.2% LFP rate, today's unemployment rate would be higher than 12%!

Because here is what happened next in subsequent BLS labor force participation forecasts:

In a nutshell: lower, lower, lower as the LFP entirely not in line with forecasts, cratered. But hey, what they know now, namely that Americans can't wait to retire because they have so many 0% yielding savings, they didn't know back then.

And there you have it: when it comes to the Labor Force Participation rate, one can best summarize it by the old maxim: "We'll just make it up as we go along."

Source, ironically, St. Louis Fed: A Closer Look at the Decline in the Labor Force Participation Rate

 


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Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:14 | Link to Comment Max Damage
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Does posting on here count as labour participation? ? Could add a few to the numbers if they use it?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:17 | Link to Comment ptoemmes
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Hmmm...what we need a a goverment program that pays us - well me to heck with the rest of you ;-) - to post on ZH.  

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:29 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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Even those dismal projections will prove to be way too optimistic when this house of glass cards crashes down.

Then again, we may well see an 80% labor participation rate when anybody left must farm and hunt for their own food.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:53 | Link to Comment resurger
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I will send drones and robots to hunt for my food... it would be dangerous to venture at that time.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Haywood Jablowme
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Participation rate or not, I'm just glad my monopoly $$ is going towards the purchase of high-grade penis-pumps.

I'm sorry, I meant VES aka vacuum erection systems....

http://freebeacon.com/taxpayers-paid-nearly-175m-for-penis-pumps-between...

Can anyone confirm if these are made in China or the good ole' USSofA?  I'll be damned if those slant-eyes get another cent of my slave wages.

 

 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 15:36 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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Here's how bad (obvious) it' has gotten.

The financial bobbing heads at MSNBC were just discussing that the govt unemployment numbers were not credible !

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:24 | Link to Comment negative rates
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I dunged my field today.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:35 | Link to Comment Emergency Ward
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The only ones on the Govt payroll are the down-arrow trolls...

<<<<< see?  Now where's my check?!?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:06 | Link to Comment DOT
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Your check has been converted into a special note which is now ensconsed within a Lockbox.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 15:40 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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The new BLS parameters for next months unemployment numbers only count people who are currently employed.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 15:41 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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The new BLS parameters for next months unemployment numbers only count people who are currently employed.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 15:41 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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The new BLS parameters for next months unemployment numbers only count people who are currently employed.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:20 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Oh shit, don't say that!

Must...sign...up...EBT...S.S. Disability...

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:23 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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That depends. Are you a NSA troll?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:36 | Link to Comment SandiaMan
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Jury Duty count?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:13 | Link to Comment XAU XAG
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Seems like everything now days is

"We'll Just Make It Up As We Go Along"

 

Having woken up in 2008 thier are so many .............still ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL!

 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:15 | Link to Comment Cocomaan
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Excellent analysis. Heard some moron on NPR talking about this demographic change, so it's good to see those soothsayers at the BLS being forced to take their own medicine. 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:16 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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Real US unemployment is closer to 30% than 12%.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:35 | Link to Comment BLOTTO
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Work ruins your life in this day and age.

7am getting ready for work

12pm at work

5pm leaving work

7pm recovering from work

12am thinking about work...

=Good times.

 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:39 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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TD    You may be right on that one, at least double from 12%.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:40 | Link to Comment Zero Debt
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Correct. SGS Alternate Unemployment is nearing 25% for the US.

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

The statistical fudging since 2009 is absolutely breathtaking. They are eliminating millions from the workforce with a stroke of a key. The official statistics are so full of lies that it is impossible to use them for economic forecasting or analysis.

The same goes for the inflation data.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:16 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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I didn't know that you could, "move the goalposts" in data in "free" societies?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:20 | Link to Comment Gunga
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That's some good shit you got there. :)

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:19 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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When everything is free, numbers really don't matter anymore.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:16 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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So the BLS went to the Federal Reserve school of we "can't forecast good"?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:16 | Link to Comment Vice
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When will they include robot burger flipping robots in this stat? Surefire way to "fix it"

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:17 | Link to Comment resurger
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Print those fucking Jobs Yellen.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Emergency Ward
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Which weighs more, a pound of dollar FRNs or a pound of direct-deposit dollars?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:17 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Future updates:  cardboard to be considered housing and food.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:22 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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EB      +1    Good laugh to start off the day........but do we get condiments with that cardboard or would that be considered a vegetable?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:25 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Free mustard and ketchup packets at your nearest McD's, ketchup = fruit, mustard = hope.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:00 | Link to Comment grunion
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I am cold and wet because I got hungry and ate my house. The notion is so surreal it will probably come to pass in this runaway train of a world where nothing surprises any longer.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:01 | Link to Comment KnightTakesKing
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Yes, BLS will say that a large cardboard box is a reasonable substitution for standard, unaffordable housing. Shanty Town coming to a neighborhood near you...

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:13 | Link to Comment DOT
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Apple will bring the new i-cardboard to market at any momment ! This will bring a good sized adjustment to our inflation adjustment which then allows moar adjustments.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:15 | Link to Comment Professorlocknload
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HHS will tout it as well. Lotta fiber in there.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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Many would be surprised to know how much of their home is already cardboard.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:25 | Link to Comment negative rates
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Is that taxable?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:18 | Link to Comment tokengator
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"To the extent that the decline for the  youngest group is due to the time spent at school, it is possible that these workers will  show a higher labor force attachment once they are out of school"

 

 

lmao @ this conclusion in the fed link

 


Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:22 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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More student loans!  STAT!

And if they can't get a job after the B.S., just enroll in an M.S. program!

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:24 | Link to Comment tokengator
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No employers are impressed with your 1780's Womens literature degree? Well then you need an M.S. in 1780's Womens literature!!!

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:18 | Link to Comment Spungo
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The government's battle against child (and adult) labor appears to be working.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:20 | Link to Comment TheRideNeverEnds
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don't worry, we will just make up for it with volume.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:23 | Link to Comment youngman
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I dont think they will go back and look at this....why try to learn when your paychecks keep coming .....

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:24 | Link to Comment OutLookingIn
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shadowstats.com

Calculate the numbers the "old" way.

Real unemployment is north of 20%. Recovery? Not so much.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:24 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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It might have been a good idea to keep a couple of factories around....you know...just in case.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:02 | Link to Comment ncdirtdigger
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We (tree huggers) don't want those dirty things in our back yard.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:26 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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The IMF is sending out their minions to talk up a "Global Citizen Dividend". Translation: Welfare for everybody!   I don't trust it one bit.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:04 | Link to Comment grunion
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Forgive my innocence, but just exactly how does one pull that off...Successfully.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:21 | Link to Comment Professorlocknload
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They don't pull it off in one shot. They are doing it one special interest faction at a time, until the few remaining demand it. Follow the purchased votes. 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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Is that like a stupidity "bonus" or something?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:27 | Link to Comment Zymurguy
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The ultimate goal here is to make the citizens of developed countries to mis-trust everything.  We are to lose faith in our currency, lose faith in banks, lose faith in our elected representatives, lose faith in our form of govt., lose faith in getting a job, lose faith in education, lose faith in morals, lose faith in family, etc. etc. etc. - the moment they determine we don't have enough trust... that's when they step in to crash all these systems in order to usher in a new form of govt. and control over all aspects of life.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:37 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Bingo. That's the ultimate objective. If they wanted to restore any faith at all they would start with a few perp walks. What we got instead was the outright criminal activity by the bankers and our "elected" officials. The fact that there is no accountability for anybody besides the ordinary citizen is a sure sign that they don't give a fuck what we think. They are going to loot the system until it crumbles, and once it does we will find ourselves under the thumb of a one world police state.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:09 | Link to Comment grunion
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As I read these posts, a little alarm signalling a profound, global loss of life just keeps getting louder and louder and...

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:45 | Link to Comment donsluck
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Personally I think their goal is faith and trust. Loss of faith is part of awareness and personal growth. More accurately, awareness of when you are acting in faith rather than subconsciously acting.

Besides, who is this "we"?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:29 | Link to Comment resurger
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Do they consider Porn Stars in the LFPR? 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:34 | Link to Comment starman
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Thank you Greenspan and Bernanke now fuck off!

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:35 | Link to Comment Agent P
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Mitra Toossi sounds like a dirty Bond girl name. 

 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:38 | Link to Comment FreeNewEnergy
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Strangely enough, I have a shooting pain on the right side of my neck (caused by sleeping on my arm - not advisable) which has been easing for three days, so I'm definitely NOT going to see a doctor or sign up for ShroomCare or whatever they're calling it these days, but, after reading four articles on ZH this morning, the only comment I can conjure to express my feelings is,

MOAR IPADS!

So, that's it for me. Am I becoming thought-impaired? And then, can I sign up for disability? So much nonsense. So little time.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:46 | Link to Comment G.O.O.D
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What about the .22 shells? Why cant I find any 22 shells? Does anyone really want to live in a world void of .22? I think not. Something must be done and congress should address this .22 crisis.. we are doomed..doomed I tell you.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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Good point. Will we be able to use our ZH posting as support data to qualify for mental disability? Its kind of like pounding your head on a wall, right?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:40 | Link to Comment papaswamp
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the funny part is the participation rate of the 65 and older crowd has been growing ( though lately flattened). easiest thing to do is just go look at the NILF of the 16-64 crowd. Now at a new record high of 45.5 million. that's right ... 45.5 million not part time , not marginally attached ... nothing. add in marginally attached and part time wanting full time we are looking at over. 50 million. subtract the 4 million job openings ( assuming full time) and we have a 46 million job shortfall. yea we are fucked.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:18 | Link to Comment ugmug
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Labor Participation has been redefined by Obamacare as any woman who is currently in labor, or will be in labor, or is planning to become a victim of the birthing process thereby inducing labor.....this includes all woman who are periodically traumatized by a gender induced biological torment called menstruation.

 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:46 | Link to Comment stock trout
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Work is over-rated anyway.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:49 | Link to Comment G.O.O.D
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It really is, we should be set free to follow our dreams and love of art etc instead of chained to a fvkin job.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:54 | Link to Comment resurger
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Donkey with benefits (if there is any), no thnx.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:50 | Link to Comment NEOSERF
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The $64,000 question simply state is:

When the government of the US can take better care of me than if I worked two of the 29 hour low skill jobs being created every month, why would I even consider looking for a job?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:54 | Link to Comment G.O.O.D
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The story below about the world wide shipping tanking 45% in two months shows the true dismal numbers of the chhristmas season. I think 2014 is going to be an acceleration in the hunger games. This shit is serious.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:46 | Link to Comment Zero Debt
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Also, we can note from SGS that M3 growth is starting to fall, just oh so slightly but clearly visibly in the charts the last few months.

Last time it fell was 2008-2010, a very, very, nasty experience. It now seems to be stalling at 5% annual growth and is ticking towards 4%.

They are desperately trying to increase credit, but the market cannot take on more debt, even if it comes for free, because it cannot find enough new productivity to support the debt. The existing productivity appears to have been fully collateralized.

A deflationary collapse is not a very nice thing to experience in a debt based fiat system. Better prepare and hedge accordingly.

 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:56 | Link to Comment topspinslicer
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I can't go into labor because I'm a man baby!!!!

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:57 | Link to Comment ak_khanna
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There is unlikely to be an economic recovery because all the efforts of politicians, government, central banks etc are focused on saving banks instead of targeting job creation which is the only way economy can recover. 

Politicians are best at barking crap. Economic calculations and interpretations are not exactly their strong points.

The true extent of slowdown in the world economy can be judged by the data points which are not subjected to adjustments by the government. Eg. Change in Electricity and Fuel consumption, Ratio of working population to the total population of a country, Miles driven, Baltic Dry Index, Change in commercial Rental Rates etc

www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40231.htm

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:59 | Link to Comment ncdirtdigger
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This silly meme that the boomers are leaving the workforce can easily be disproven using the BLS's own figures. They simply do not show a significant drop off in the employment of those 55+. In fact, the #'s show that the 55+ age group is the only age group that has seen positive job growth since the Obomber took office.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:03 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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As Zero Hedge first reported, about a year ahead of everyone else: Chart Of The Day: 55 And Under? No Job For You

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:39 | Link to Comment resurger
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For all those 55 and above, hurry the fuck up and die.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:46 | Link to Comment insanelysane
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Not going to happen.  I'm not one of them but the 55 and over crowd are tough sons of bitches.

They can eat peanuts and peanut butter without dying.

Most of them smoked tobacco for some or all of their lives and they are still not dead.

They drink beers without needing to jamb a freaking lime in the neck of the bottle.

They show up to work on time and work through their entire shift without getting an urgent text from their significant others or their parents.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:00 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Soon they will be saying that about people over thirty.........Wait a tic it seems I've seen that in a movie once.....

http://youtu.be/e5jsUavVPjI

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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I'm trying! Give me a fucking break, will you?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:05 | Link to Comment muleskinner
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Jobs?  What jobs?  We don't need no steenking jobs.

You load 16 load sixteen ton, what do you get?  Sing it, Ernie.

"Couldn't care less if I didn't have a friend, 'cept people would I was crazy.  Wouldn't work, 'cuz I don't need money, but the same folks would say I'm lazy.

Say sour grapes, you can laugh and stare.  Say sour grapes, but I don't care." 

- John Prine, Sour Grapes 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:07 | Link to Comment Sufiy
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Peter Schiff: Gold & Dollar - An Imaginary Recovery Does Not Create Real Jobs


Huge miss in Jobs numbers with only 74k created vs estimated well north of 200k can not be just dismissed as a blip in the data. Peter Schiff discusses that FED can not really Taper now, there is no real recovery and FED does not have the exit strategy. Gold is waking up to these developments. What if this data is the real state of the economy? Once people will realise how wrong is the expectation about the recovery Gold will go straight up. COMEX data shows that Gold shorts will be in trouble very soon.   Junior miners are finding the bids these days. McEwen Mining and TNR Gold had a very good week and huge short position on McEwen Mining will be driving the price in case if Gold will confirm its break out next week. http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/peter-schiff-gold-dollar-imaginary.h...

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:10 | Link to Comment I Write Code
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Americans can't wait to retire because they have so many 0% yielding savings

Exactamundo.  If interest rates had stayed in their 1990s range, I was going to semi-retire at a fairly young age and do some other stuff that was more fun, might still count as work but wouldn't likely pay much.  Now, not only are rates zero, but my capital is eaten away by the fed and might be seized by the federales at any moment for my own good.  So I continue to pretend to work and they pretend to pay me.

As others have said, when you also factor in lowered wages, insecurity, and underemployment, the real economic numbers are probably in 1930's depression range.

So why do we seem so happy?  One and a half reasons.  One, we are an extremely wealthy society, we have food and energy and toys up our yin-yang, even with barely half the population working.  And the half - we have Bernankebux (now YellenCoin?) gently raining down on us from heaven, so the half of us who aren't working still get to eat, anyway.  Call it neo-trickledown.

But there's nobody in DC with anything like the vision to talk in these terms (the fed governors know it, but aren't talking), so they stay up nights making up lies they can tell us instead.

 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:39 | Link to Comment G.O.O.D
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I think DC has come to grips there is no fixing it, and now are just going through the motions and lying to the public to keep the pitchforks and torches away. The trillions thrown at the problem since 2008 has had no effect, now what?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:22 | Link to Comment BuddyEffed
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Is that chart looking a little like a Hubbert curve?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 13:52 | Link to Comment Rising Sun
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BLS / ADP / Barry:  We calls 'em as we sees 'em and if we don't sees 'em (or we feel like it), we makes 'em up.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:23 | Link to Comment q99x2
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I don't need to work. They have robots doing that crap now.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 14:30 | Link to Comment jack stephan
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Snakes...why did it have to be snakes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxWCAJS7Co8&sns=em

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 15:03 | Link to Comment Franktastic
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I checked out in 2010, already to move to live as a minimalist in the country\close the IRA and bought some land, to hunt and grow food (soon to be a crime). I am tired of this current and past administrations,  the high level of corruption and greed, bailouts for banks, oil companies, crop growers, along with GMOs posion, chemtrails, endless wars, fixed pricing on everything, no real push for alternative fuels, lies, lies and more lies from the top and our broadcast media pumping us full of crap. I doing what i can to starve the system...giving up comfort and NOT working for any company that ends with INC. I am done!..going underground to system D…just cash and barter for the past 3 years and it seems to be working just fine.

am just a stick in their eye...a pointy one at that.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 22:11 | Link to Comment TheReplacement
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Sounds great.  Too bad I was born too late/too poor/too uninformed to be in such a position.  The best I could do is sell all and break even but then what?

Say, you have land.  Is it a lot of land?  You need guns.  Well, not so much guns but trigger pullers.  I have a couple of those.  Perhaps we will make a trade sometime.

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