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The IRS Stunningly Admits Its Own Mafia Tactics

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Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

In the 3rd century AD, Emperor Caracalla famously remarked of Rome’s tax policy:

“For as long as we have this,” pointing to his sword, “we shall not run out of money.” (Of course, Rome did run out of money. )

At the time, Roman taxation was so extractive that it drove people into poverty and desperation. Yet the government continued to forcibly plunder wealth at the point of a sword.

Not much has changed.

The Taxpayer Advocate Service, which is an independent office within the IRS, has just released a two-volume report describing the mafia tactics that are being employed by the tax collectors in the Land of the Free.

The Executive Summary alone is 76 pages. And believe it or not, it’s a real page turner.

On page 37, for example, the report states that the IRS largely assesses tax penalties improperly.

Specifically, the Office of the Chief Counsel admonished the IRS that it was not legally authorized to impose accuracy related penalties on certain taxpayers, and that the service should abate those penalties already imposed.

Yet the IRS declined to follow its own Chief Counsel’s legal advice, and it has refused to abate penalties for nearly 90,000 taxpayers.

In the words of the agency’s own Taxpayer Advocate Service, “The IRS’s failure to abate inapplicable penalties signals disrespect for the law and a disregard for taxpayer rights.”

Page 34 discusses how the IRS has abandoned its own checks and balances.

When a taxpayer is deemed to owe the US government money, the IRS is supposed to have a “collection due process (CDP) hearing” to verify that the IRS agent followed the law and consider whether the intrusion on the taxpayer was warranted.

Yet the report states that this has become nothing more than a rubber stamp formality, and that current practices “do not provide the taxpayer a fair and impartial hearing.”

In fact, among the most litigated issues at the IRS, the report states that “taxpayers fully prevailed only about two percent of the time.”

Two percent. If you go up against the IRS, you have a 2% chance of winning. Give me a break. You have more than a 2% chance fighting against the mafia.

Moreover, the byzantine US income tax code, which runs to an incredible 72,000+ pages, “disproportionately burdens those who [make] honest mistakes”, especially as it relates to offshore disclosures.

In fact, the report acknowledges that “tax requirements have become so confusing and the compliance burden so great that taxpayers are giving up their U.S. citizenship in record numbers.”

It’s not exactly Emperor Caracalla pointing to his sword… but IRS’s policies and tactics are not so far off from a police agency.

They disregard the law and the advice of their own counsel. They disproportionately burden honest individuals. They flout due process. And they push people to abandon their citizenship.

These are mafia tactics, plain and simple. And like the Romans, Ottoman Empire, and French monarchy before, the tax system in the Land of the Free has become a desperate farce marked by fear and intimidation.

This is one of history’s obvious marks of a nation that has reached its terminal decline. We cannot seriously expect this time to be any different.


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Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:54 | 4328306 NoDebt
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Everything but the gun and the mask.

Scratch that.  They got guns.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:55 | 4328312 The Gooch
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But they shoot sideways.


Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:08 | 4328324 Pladizow
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A slave master can treat his slaves any way he wishes!

With the Mafia, at least you have the cops to turn to.

Aaron Russo's: Freedom to Facism -

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:13 | 4328370 Duke of Earl
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Agreed, this article is an insult to Mafia's everywhere!

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:25 | 4328419 WarriorClass
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The point is, that if you aren't going to get a fair fight, why fight fair?  Shoot first.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:51 | 4328488 BoNeSxxx
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They wouldn't have to push me too hard to give up my citizenship... hell, they wouldn't even need to say please.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:58 | 4328522 akak
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But what about your US 'american' citizenism?

That is the mattering thing, biting the crust of it.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:16 | 4328573 chumbawamba
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The IRS is a paper tiger.  It's a bloated debt collector (literally, for the IMF).  You make them go away with a debt collection letter.

Or, you do the equivalent of applying plenty of grease to your body when you go to a wrasslin' match: you detach all your wealth from the system.  That way, if the IRS ever comes calling, they have nothing to attach to...they just can't seem to get a hold of ya.

I especially love it when that extremely-large-assed IRS woman leaves summonses on my door, ignoring no trespassing signs.  One of these days I'll actually have time to sue her ass for trespass.

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:24 | 4328599 The Gooch
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-OR- Joe Stack

Tue, 01/14/2014 - 00:25 | 4329732 Four chan
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rip randy weaver, and his wife.  ruby ridge, never forget. 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 19:47 | 4328879 mess nonster
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Here are some sample letters, of which Cumbawamba alludes:


Mon, 01/13/2014 - 19:25 | 4328774 Tim_
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IRS taking bids on 60 Remington 870 shotguns

"The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) intends to purchase sixty Remington Model 870 Police RAMAC #24587 12 gauge pump-action shotguns for the Criminal Investigation Division. The Remington parkerized shotguns, with fourteen inch barrel, modified choke, Wilson Combat Ghost Ring rear sight and XS4 Contour Bead front sight, Knoxx Reduced Recoil Adjustable Stock, and Speedfeed ribbed black forend, are designated as the only shotguns authorized for IRS duty based on compatibility with IRS existing shotgun inventory, certified armorer and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts."

The Randy Weaver Case

"On Oct. 24, 1989, Weaver sold two shotguns whose barrels arguably measured 1/4 inch less than the 18 inch length determined arbitrarily by Congress to be legal. The H&R single-barrel 12-ga. and Remington pump were sold to a good friend who instructed Weaver to shorten the barrels. The 'good friend' was an undercover informant working for the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (BATF), who later told reporters he was in it 'mainly for the excitement.'"

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 20:25 | 4329004 The Gooch
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His name was Randy Weaver.


Also, WACO.


Tue, 01/14/2014 - 01:46 | 4329853 Buckaroo Banzai
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His name was Randy Weaver.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 19:44 | 4328868 johngaltfla
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Exactly. It's bullshit because even the mafia has some degree of honor.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:23 | 4328596 Loucleve
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What I wanna know is WHY IS THE IRS UNIONIZED.


Mon, 01/13/2014 - 19:34 | 4328820 Tim_
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"The Bill of Rights was not ordained by nature or God. It's very human, very fragile" (Inscribed in front of the IRS buliding).

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:54 | 4328310 Sudden Debt
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Nixon used the IRS against his enemies

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:57 | 4328320 NoDebt
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You may have missed the more glaring and contemporary example of that practice.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:04 | 4328342 Harbanger
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Trying to justify wrong behavior worked with mommie, maybe.  Mafia is the right label for that small group behind the show.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:06 | 4328350 Emergency Ward
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Was that Dick Milhaus or Barry Hussein O'Nixon?  Why do these freaks have so many enemies?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:44 | 4328479 Pseudonymous
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You mean his enemy was the American people? But that's not on topic. What's on topic (and is more repugnant) is that all presidents since its inception use the IRS, insofar as the IRS collects taxes by coercion and force. That's all.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:52 | 4328500 thomasincincy
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they charge interest too. seems kinda strange

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 19:37 | 4328835 Tim_
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They charge interest, penalties, and interest on the penalties.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:55 | 4328506 Count de Money
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Correction: Nixon tried to use the IRS against his enemies. He was turned down flat by the IRS's Commissioner at the time.

Obama, on the other hand had no problems getting the IRS to do his bidding.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:53 | 4328679 linniepar
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Correction,  Nixon was busted by Forrest Gump.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:54 | 4328311 NotApplicable
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You can bet those 2% winning cases were either for club members, or to further divide and conquer by letting the wrong/right type of person win.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:18 | 4328399 Harbanger
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They exclusively targeted libertarian and conservative groups with terms such as "patriot" or "Tea Party" in their names.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:30 | 4328435 Urban Redneck
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I think it's a far more complex composition. My accountants have had a 100% success rate against the IRS for at least the past five years, and most clients are neither members of club, nor the "right" type person to win. Furthermore, I have a friend, who is most certainly a member The Club, and once told me of a tax attorney in Washington who was such a pain the ass to the Treasury Department, that the Commissioner of Internal Revenue threw a formal party in celebration of his retirement (and didn't have the decency to invite the guy to his "own" taxpayer funded retirement party).

It's easier and less of an opportunity cost for a wealthy individual to obtain skilled counsel when going up against the IRS, and the occasional knuckle dragging IRS quota monkey might cut some undue slack to member of his or her perceived tribe. However, the basic problem is that the tax code is too complex, and supply of those skilled enough to successfully navigate/manipulate the code against its enforcers is too limited (and the deck is certainly stacked unfairly in the enforcers' favor).

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:54 | 4328313 Debtonation
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Repeal the Income Tax!

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:58 | 4328323 Skateboarder
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How about we start with declaring unlawful the US Penal Code? (same goes with all governments of the world. Withdraw your penal codes.)

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:05 | 4328345 vie
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According to Supreme Court rulings, I'm pretty sure it was never legal to begin with.  It's always been "voluntary".

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:55 | 4328314 SMG
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It's time for a General Strike or a Revolution.  Now if we can just convince people to get off their couches....

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:15 | 4328384 vie
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Simple, just call everyone up and tell them they've been selected to be on a reality TV/game show called, "Fight for your Freedom!"  

A team "survivor" type show where the winners gets to keep their freedom.


Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:01 | 4328494 Race Car Driver
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> Now if we can just convince people to get off their couches....

Actually, in this case we want them to stay on their couches.

Wave your pee-pee at TPTB and stay home.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 19:12 | 4328737 quasimodo
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Shut down all the purveyors of snack foods and soda. We would have millions in the streets within days.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:57 | 4328317 Buckaroo Banzai
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All part of the Hegelian dialectic. Can't have the IRS "thesis" operating in a vacuum. Must create the anti-IRS "antithesis". Of course the "synthesis" will be some sort of compromise between balls-to-the-wall insane amounts of injustice and just-the-normal-amount of injustice.

Meanwhile, the entire existence of the IRS, and its relation to the the Declaration of Independence, the original text of the Constitution, and the 13th amendment, continues to go completely unquestioned.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:57 | 4328321 The Gooch
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Generations of undead produced by unyielding conditioning.


Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:56 | 4328319 Chupacabra-322
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We are "Governed" into a Political, Educational, Religious & Economic UNITED STATES, CORP based on contract law which is based on Criminal Fraud, deceit & illusion.

The Private Corp UNITED STATES, CORP uses the cover of being a functional Government when in reality they are not. Much like the Criminal Federal Reserve uses The "Federal" in their name & use it as cover to give the illusion that they are a branch of the US Government when they are not.

Through bankruptcies, Criminal Contract Fraud & deceit the Charlatans have incrementally incorporated the US as well as your souls (birth cert) which are securitized via the Criminal Federal Reserve through to the IMF.

They're functioning off corporate version of the THE CONSTITUTION. It's the reason why The Global Criminal Oligarch Cabal Bankster Intelligence Crime Syndicate continues to lie, cheat, deceit, rape & pillage with impunity.

The only power the have over you is with CONSENT (Black Law's Dictionary). Pay no Taxes. Peaceful Non-Participation, Non-Compliance & being an accessory into their Criminal system/s based on Criminal Fraud, Debt Bondage & Enslavement.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:06 | 4328349 Pladizow
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Find a televised introduction of a US Presideident, where he is introduced as the "President of The United States of America" and not just 'The President of the Unites States."

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:56 | 4328502 Chupacabra-322
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Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise."

It is an established fact that the United'states Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departmen ts are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (corporation) is in its FOURTH bankruptcy! It's a Criminal System based on Criminal Fraud & Deception. Birth certificates are securitized via the Federal Reserve through the IMF.
Our Souls were put down as collateral to pay back the debt via the Bankruptcy of 1933. The only power The Global Criminal Oligarch Cabal Bankster Intelligence Crime Syndicate have over you is through CONSENT CONTRACTING (Black's Law Dictionary) with the Criminal Fraud.

Bankruptcy 1: 1791, about the time the Bill of Rights and signing of the Constitution was finalized.
Bankruptcy 2: 1861 (about 70 years later) resulting in the issuance of 'greenbacks'
Bankruptcy 3: 1933 (again, about 70 years later) when gold was confiscated by the government, and finally
Bankruptcy 4: NOW--since 9/11/2001 ( almost 70 years to the day as the last bankruptcy was September 10, 1933.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:56 | 4328514 Buckaroo Banzai
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Traficant eventually earned himself a stretch in Federal Prison for saying stuff like this. You might even say he was a political prisoner, but everyone knows we don't have those here.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:03 | 4328322 Tasty Sandwich
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“For as long as we have this,” Bernanke pointed to his printing press, “we shall not run out of money.”


The U.S. government has a technology, called a printing press (or, today, its electronic equivalent), that allows it to produce as many U.S. dollars as it wishes at essentially no cost.

Under a paper-money system, a determined government can always generate higher spending and, hence, positive inflation.

Remarks by Governor Ben S. Bernanke, 2002 - Deflation: Making Sure "It" Doesn't Happen Here

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:59 | 4328327 Salt
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Any distinction between the IRS and the Mafia is quite blurred.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 19:14 | 4328743 BigJim
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You can reason with the mafia

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:00 | 4328330 Prisoners_dilemna
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Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:00 | 4328333 ejmoosa
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Let's be honest.  They do this because they know we will never do anything to put an end to it.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:29 | 4328432 Chupacabra-322
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Pack a Gum & Pay No Tax (CONSENT) & stop being an accessory to their system of Criminal Fraud/deceit.

The Criminal UNITED STATES, CORP using the Fraud (Cover) of being a functional Government will collapse into its own footprint.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:06 | 4328348 BeerMe
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1913 the beginning of the end

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:06 | 4328351 Cornholiovanderbilt
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I sure hate to see what happens when re-run season begins!

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:07 | 4328356 Prisoners_dilemna
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I just received an audit on my tax return for 2012 back from the IRS.

  It puzzles me!!!
They are questioning how many dependents I claimed.
I guess it was because of my response to the question: "List all dependents?”
I replied: 12 million illegal immigrants; 3 million crack heads;
42 million unemployed people on food stamps,
2 million people in over 243 prisons;
Half of Mexico ; and 535 persons in the U.S. House and Senate."
Evidently, this was NOT an acceptable answer.
Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:09 | 4328360 denverdolomte
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Wall Street.


Awesome response haha.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:33 | 4328451 Dinero D. Profit
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@ P'sD


You missed all the godatoriums, steepled and steepless, who get a free ride.

Tue, 01/14/2014 - 07:54 | 4330159 Kprime
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you missed the most self important group of all, the IRS agents.

Tue, 01/14/2014 - 08:29 | 4330195 overmedicatedun...
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Tylers: From WSJ:"The Federal Bureau of Investigation doesn’t plan to file criminal charges over the Internal Revenue Service’s heightened scrutiny of conservative groups, according to law-enforcement officials, a move that likely will only intensify debate over the politically charged scandal.

The officials said investigators didn’t find the kind of political bias or “enemy hunting” that would amount to a violation of criminal law. Instead, what emerged during the probe was evidence of a mismanaged bureaucracy enforcing rules about tax-exemption applications it didn’t understand, according to the law-enforcement officials."

TBTF now applies to .gov bureaucrats, wonderful

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:08 | 4328358 denverdolomte
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The I.nternal R.aping S.ervice : "If we like your income, we can keep your income"


Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:15 | 4328383 Seasmoke
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Whoa. Imagine the IRS in Chris Christies control.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:22 | 4328416 Rising Sun
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When there's a nazi in the white house, federal agencies/departments can do what the fuck they want.


Holder is another cocksucker that needs a Kennedy.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:38 | 4328467 Chupacabra-322
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I have Solace knowing these Global Criminals are going to have to spend every waking moment of the day watching their sixes for the rest of their putrid lives.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:22 | 4328593 ejmoosa
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Starting when?

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:27 | 4328426 Bunga Bunga
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Get over it, it's a completely normal symptom in fascism.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:28 | 4328428 dexter_morgan
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same old shit, different century

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:30 | 4328437 Imagery
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One need look no further than Turbo Timmy to find what it takes to join the 2% club!


Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:32 | 4328450 nc551
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Taxpayer rights??  I'd say if you have to pay taxes you don't have rights.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:40 | 4328473 Dinero D. Profit
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..... And I say, it we had some strawberries, we could have some strawberry short-cake, if we had some short-cake.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:56 | 4328508 theprofromdover
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Lets say 72,000 pages, minimum 50 lines per page, 12 words per line 4 words per second.

Reading (and understanding) 8hrs per day (they can't ask you to work more than that), requires 375 days every year to read the Tax Code.

Ergo, no-one can ever understand it.

That must be unconstitutional.



Mon, 01/13/2014 - 17:57 | 4328516 CPL
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Each one there is culpable of theft in the grand scheme of things with the current situation.  Take work, give nothing but paper and problems.   I bet a beer there's no haul behind the hearse for any of them.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:02 | 4328530 AlamoJack
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Check out


Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:11 | 4328557 paint it red ca...
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Not making any excuses for my 73 yr old buddies business tax woes, I thought I would recount the actions the IRS undertook when pursued his accounting slight of hand into his business failing in the fall of 2007.

The IRS actually garnished his direct deposited Social Security check out of his account after his auctioned personal assets (a forced sale into the real estate and lending bottom) did not recover his tax bill + penalties.

That's a low life move that allowed me to tease him about his cat suddenly loosing weight while he stayed fat. It looks as if the IRS will pursue him to the grave then garnish his casket unless, as he says, a fat man can outlive them.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:13 | 4328565 yogibear
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The mafia can't seize your safty deposit boxes and accounts, the IRS can.


Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:13 | 4328566 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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Here's the thing, if the government is taking your wealth without your consent, it is theft.  Forcing someone to pay for blowing up poor people around the world & stealing their natural resources is theft.

Not only that, it is a crime against GOD. 1 of the 10 Commandments: Thou shall not steal.

Full Definition of THEFT

1a :  the act of stealing; specifically :  the felonious taking and removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it.

I guess the dictionary writers added "felonious" to mask theft by government, as if it's not theft if they make it a bogus law that taxes are lawful.  Weasle words & Orwellian doublespeak.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:20 | 4328582 Bawneee Fwank
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This report has nothing to do with admitting abuses at all, its about receiving additional even states it...

""I submit that all of these short-term crises mask the major problem facing the IRS today — unstable and chronic underfunding that puts at risk the IRS’s ability to meet its current responsibilities, much less articulate and achieve the necessary transformation to an effective, modern tax agency. Throughout the Most Serious Problems section of this report, we recount the ways in which chronic underfunding drives the agency to develop short-term solutions that merely patch over problems and impose unnecessary burden and even harm on taxpayers. These short-term solutions also create more work for the IRS in the end, thereby wasting precious resources. As the IRS spends its resources to ad- dress problems in this ad hoc manner — to put fires out — it is unable to direct attention and talent to the long-term challenges it faces as it attempts to modernize. Simply put, without a stable funding stream and adequate resources to invest in the future, the IRS will fall short of fulfilling its mission to serve the U.S. taxpayer and collect revenue.""
Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:39 | 4328636 mvsjcl
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" serve the U.S. taxpayer..."


LMAO! Oh my! That's rich.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 19:19 | 4328753 BigJim
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It's an incomplete quote. It should read:

" serve the U.S. taxpayer's... head on a plate.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:34 | 4328624 Atomizer
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Watched the link below last night. Although old, nothing has changed. Why should we trust an institute that behaves in the matter of how 3rd world countries operate? Less Government is needed, not more!

Wham Bam Thank You Scam

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:37 | 4328631 NoWayJose
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I, for one, and NOT saying ANYTHING negative about the IRS on an open Internet forum....  Maybe that's the purpose of their tactics...

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:58 | 4328697 Emergency Ward
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Neither would I ever call them a horde of thieving cocksuckers living on the backs of earners......nothing but POSITIVE things....

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 18:47 | 4328660 kchrisc
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I'd like to see 'em tax my guillotine.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 19:21 | 4328761 Catullus
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Think the IRS is bad, try appealing a government fine of any sort. The founder of buckyballs is just too much.

Do not, under any circumstance, owe money to the government. They fine you, the decision can only be appealed before an administrative judge, they're unresponsive, repayment terms are ridiculous, they give you no record that you've paid them off entirely, and they continue to charge you, garnish your wages, or ding your credit. Getting someone on the phone requires calling between 9am and 12pm (just the morning) on like a Tuesday so that you can wait on the phone for two hours.

The worst is when they overpay you. They fuck up and then make your life a hell for them fucking up. Even if it was years ago.

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 19:26 | 4328783 insanelysane
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Not that the US Constitution means anything to anyone in government but the current tax code is UNCONSTITUTIONAL (did you get that NSA?)

The Federal Income Tax is LAW and the Constitution along with a shit load of Supreme Court rulings state that every person must be treated equally under the LAW.  People that make different amounts of income aren't sentenced to longer prison terms so how in the hell can you have a LAW, TAX LAW, that doesn't provide EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW???

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 20:24 | 4329003 Downtoolong
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"The Taxpayer Advocate Service, which is an independent office within the IRS"

The day it was created should have been a big ol' red flag right there.


Mon, 01/13/2014 - 20:33 | 4329025 22winmag
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Maybe that dude who crashed his small plane into an IRS building a few years back had the right idea...

Tue, 01/14/2014 - 01:44 | 4329850 the0ther
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Don't care much at all for people using offshore tax dodges. Pity the poor rich who use tax shelters? Really? Everyone here knows Atlas Shrugged is just a (bad) story right? 

Tue, 01/14/2014 - 06:46 | 4330101 Redhotfill
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Love the use of the International Record Syndicate logo.  Best bands of the 80's were on that label.

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