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The Death Cross Of US Manufacturing
The theme of both the robot-ization of the global workforce and the populist desire for a hike in the minimum wage have been popular and ongoing ones here at Zero Hedge. However, never has it been more clear just where the future lies than this chart from BofAML's Michael Hartnett... As he says, "we are long robots, and short human beings."
Of course - from Applebees to Jamba Juice and now fast-food restaurants, the robots are coming and cries of millions of minimum-wage-hike-demanding union workers will do nothing but encourage it... (oh and the Fed's financial repression)
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12 more years before it's 99% automated.
1% human slaves to do the oil changes
"1% human slaves to do the oil changes" - already done by robots, sorry. Fucking wetbacks kept putting too much torgue on the damn bolt.
it's been up since '09. That's something. right?
The factory of the future will be staffed by one man and one dog.
The man is there to hit a kill switch if everything goes to hell and the place is about to blow up.
The dog is there to bite the man if he attempts to do anything else.
Kinda sounds like Homer Simpson's job. 3 or 4 guys work at an entire power plant.
They cut out fast food workers with the Robot Hamburger Machine now this:
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/can-this-robotic-security-guard-protect-you-RjzYjA7KTbuSvxjrVIVoGw.html
The last bastion of job hope...rent-a-cop is gone.
I'd rather have one of these - http://www.omnicorp.com/images/product/carousel-ED209.jpg "Put down your gun: You have 15 seconds to comply! "
Or how about - http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18s0wkfirk0p8jpg/k-bigpic.jpg (prototype already available!)
There is no US manufacturing, so how can robotics be a death cross.
Look at Detroit to see the death cross, 50 years of Democrats.
Detroit's mayor should give the keys to the city to the grim reaper.
Wrong.
I know for fact that one particular machine-tool co. had a record year in 2013 for U.S. sales.
Pretty sure they are not alone.
Were they financed by one of the Global warming, green company Gov scams? Even the UN came out and said how global Communism is the way to stop climate change. Fools keep looking for strawmen while their freedoms are being undermined by political prophets
I don't think Magpul, etc. qualify. They were, however, helped out by the propaganda of the "gun-grabbers" and surely the "legal" insider trading of CONgress.
There are many small/mid-size entrepreneurial firms that supply tooling to Magpul, etc.
Also, Medical, energy and defense.
I wouldn't invest in them long term. Firearm corps are a big target of the gun grabbing leftists who it seems will be ruling over us for the foreseeable future.
Only because we let them.
Molon Labe.
Keep dreaming, I used to think that until I realized how spineless the west has become, in particular the men, who have been beat down into submission by decades of militant feminism. It's too late, there's no fight in us, no resistance. Once they take absolute power, you'll never get it back. Everyone will find someone to blame and talk about what they should have done.
I can't and have no desire to worry about what "us" will do on a grand scale when the time comes. The time coming is scary enough.
One can "dream" on the same day one "daydreams" about what one will do, faced with the myriad of possible, crisis situations looming.
Same as it ever was.
"The time coming is scary enough." That's partly my point, I'm assuming you're a man. You surviving the chaos should be your last worry. Taking out as many bastards before they take you out should be your objective, but you need to have a warrior spirit.
BTW- "One can "dream"reminded me of Sinatra's song. He's from a time when men still had a little roughness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjI7VeIA7ZI
No worries there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pex_ASYQPM
Lots of prosperous buggy whip manufacturers. I used to be one, now not so much. I'm sure the machine-tool business to which you refer has plenty of CNC to offset his workforce. Everyone does that wants to survive, but it is all downhill. If those displaced by automation were re-educating and training for new jobs there might be a chance, but unfortunately, we only need so many bankers. No one really wants to "work" anymore. That's why we are all going to automation. No one wants to. Its unnerving to be dependent upon constantly changing technologies, especially ones you really don't own, but rent and must hire a specialist to do much of anything. We are chasing a rat down a drain pipe.
I think the OP-POSTER here confuses the USE of the term 'robot' with 'expert-system' or knowledge engine.
IT's not the physical that is at issue here,
It is the 'GOOGLE BRAIN' and its here now, using neural-networks the google brain now can do anything and solve any problem quicker and faster than a human.
Thus soon, we will need no doctors, or judges, or any teacher, the GOOGLE-BRAIN will provide all your needs.
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GOOGLE "GOOGLE BRAIN", and learn about today's advanced in neural-networks and "Artificial General Inteligence"
Therefore, the president in his infinite wisdom and wise counsel, says that the best way to "fix" the economy is...factory jobs. You could not make this stuff up.
This is where the capitalist system breaks down.
What is the point of an economic system that can produce endless quantities of goods, but there are no jobs for people to earn money to buy those goods? It's not just socially and morally repugnant, but unworkable economically as well.
That's an economic fallacy. Labor saving technology like robots frees people up to provide more different goods or services. The caveat being that they are free to create more opportunities. I can't tell you where all those manufacturing jobs will go because i don't have a crystal ball and there's no telling what innovations people might come up with. What i can predict is that a fascist government set to protect is big business corporation cronies will be the real cause if these new technologies create any lasting poverty.
This is an important distinction. Look at what technology did during the industrial revolution, where there weren't tens of thousands of regulations in virtually every industry. Today, there is much less hope - since while labor may be freed up through tech innovation, there are much fewer places for it to go. Except the EBT consumption industry of course.
This is a sci-fi answer to the question of what people will do in the age of robotic everything.
http://www.marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm
Danger Will Robinson! I am going to take your Job!
Luckily we have Old Glory Insurance to protect our senior citizens from risk of Robot Attacks. Especially right when they come off a shift, those robots are usually pretty ornery.
great avatar and handle.
I'm perplexed.
There are a shit-ton of skilled mfg. jobs that can't be filled.
Our particular niche (nat-gas turbine) is on fire right now.
After NAFTA, many reitired and we lost a whole generation of fresh faces.
Automation has surely taken a chunk but there are that equipment needs toolmakers and techs just the same.
Skilled? Well there's your problem, right there.
I got cut off from the edit...
nevermind.
FOARWARD.
Not to worry. Americahn Idles may be dumb, uneducated and unskilled, but as soon as amnestey for illegal, er...undocumented aliens is decreed by POTUS the US will have a seemingly endless supply of skilled workers. Just ask the US Chamber of Commerce and those corporations that are so eager to have workers to fill the jobs that American Idles won't take.
You can't fill jobs where the compensation doesn't meet the level of skills required. Too many employers believe they are *entitled* to labor at the rates the *employers want to pay*, not what the free market will command. If the slots can't be filled, then by definition they are not offering enough compensation (i.e., dinero) to get the candidates they want.
There's a very, very simple solution: PAY MORE
I concur and it's been an obstacle.
edit: Dear junkers, I don't set the fucking caps.
That's so simple, I don't why they didn't think of that. More reason why management is paid too much.
Management is paid what it is to save the company money so that more of it can go back into profit (and go mostly into the pockets of the people at the top of the pyramid). They claim artificial `labor shortages` and then spend money lobbying immigration law changes which is cheaper than just PAYING MORE.
MGMT is looking at FY this one and this one only in most cases.
Rightly so.
Funny thing is, if you start talking macro/fed, all the manipulation, fraud and myth attached to it, they become venison.
"Correction" comes to mind.
I can understand your belief, in the modern USSA profits are seen as evil. The new political meme for 2014 will be "income inequality", as if the gov can mandate equality.
There is no immigration law here in the US, it's a joke. No country in the history of the world could survive the influx of illegal immigrants this country is subjected to. And that's the point of why Obama, not the evil corps, will grant amnesty to millions before his term is over. This will complete the trasformation of the country right before your eyes. Look to the strawman they created while they burn your farm. What selfish shortsighted fools, I can't say we don't deserve what we're getting.
Of course the gov can mandate income equality! It simply is a matter of redefining 'equality', as has been done with so many other words/concepts. And reset assured that while we will all be equal, friends of the gov will, as per Animal Farm, be more equal than others.
So just imagine Obama as Humpty Dumpty. From "Through the Looking Glass" by Lewis Carroll:
'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'
There's another side to this.
Back in the dot-com daze of the late 90's a buddy of mine made the jump from engineering to management. At the time, software engineers could almost command a price - almost. Pay and perks were great.
One thing I heard from my buddy was the INTENSE anger from management. Many of the managers at every level were furious they did not have the ability to pay low wages, and many swore they were "looking forward to the day" they could put the engineers over a barrel. O'care makes me think they got their way.
Right now people think good engineering is easy. "My kid can create a website, so how difficult can it be to program a medical device?" The (expensive) education needed is completely unrecognized as a factor. How are people supposed to afford this?
I could go on a lot longer, but this is enough for now.
So your thought is that employers would rather turn down work than pay what you think are adequate wages. I bet you love minimum wages being raised as well. Its called an economy, or at least it used to be. Supply and demand..remember that shit. Most employers are not GE or GM. Most are relatively small and have lots of competition. If I don't pay competitive wages, the qualified people will go where they do. You may not believe this but most employers are not conspiring with each other to suppress wages. We pay what the market will bear....sometimes more, like when the economy goes to shit and your people are like family to you and assuming they are productive...and trained, you don't want to lose them, so you keep paying them to do nothing...for months. I wish there was a law that forced everyone to be self employed for a year, with employees, just so they would shut the fuck up about shit they know nothing about.
Amen, Oldwood, Amen.
Too much college, not enough apprenticeship. Some things you can only learn by having the knowledge passed down by another person, one on one. Not in a big classroom, and not by a book. It's a huge investment of time and resources to teach a protege.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apprenticeship
+1000
But the employers *want* a college degree *and* the practical experience ... they just don't want to *pay* for it all.
You can't teach someone motivation. That they need to come up with on their own. I'm all for education unless it is to create a bunch of lazy smart asses that can set around discussing why the world is so unfair in good proper english.
That is a fundamental difference between college and apprenticeship. And shit.
Commodify, commodify, comodify. Moar efficiency (great), but towards what end again??? Thats right boys and girls, keep servicing those interest payments to fund ever-increasing systemic complexity so that we can continue marching towards absolute isolation.
Only in a few industries. Factories are quickly being automated. There is an enormous demand for engineers, physicists, chemists, computer experts, AI, nano and robotic workers, biotech, etc - all the jobs that companies go overseas for. Someone needs to invent a new "job" for all the business/music/art/Eskimo/communications/psychology/sociology majors.
At least there is a job category for political science majors: dog catcher. Lawyers, unfortunately, are useless. They can't even be used as chum while shark fishing; something about professional courtesy, I understand.
Lucky man if you don't think you will ever need a lawyer. Can save your azz.
Kurt Vonnegut very accuately predicted the future 60 years ago in his book "Player Piano". I swear that story gets closer to reality every fuking day.
Ice Nine is still far from reality. I hope.
The FED is the financial equivalent of Ice 9.
Fukkin A .... about time the machines got some respect !
Soon robots will be in the voting booth with us in November. Equal rights for all, ya know.
Live or undead?
They have been for years. Just who do you think you are interacting with when pushing buttons/pulling levers?
Who is pushing whose buttons?
It's already an established mindset that elections don't matter. At this point there's nothing to do, a financial crash and people rioting in the streets will only bring more totalitarian rule, not less.. So enjoy what's left of your liberty.
Time for us plebes to be long robots too, and short banks.
About being long robots: why not just give every American a robot when they are born? Then each person's robot can work in his place and he can spend whatever the robot earns, less upkeep.
"Yay, I'm popular!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez as "The Gender Bender"
Here comes another 12 million people to the food stamp line!!!
got it tnx hey guys were going short yes humans!
i am short BofAML's Michael Hartnett. bots can do your job too mofo.
Bots
Next thing you know they will demand civil rights.
As long as they don't unionize.
Gives "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that" a whole new meaning!
Unified Pod of Unionized Robot Servers or "UPURS".
Speaking of robots, 3D printers aren't just for guns these days.
http://www.open-electronics.org/barilla-experiments-with-3d-printing-pasta/
So, apparently, the Italian Barilla, world top pasta seller, is seriously embracing 3Dprinting to allow even more creativity in pasta design and also encourage on-site pastamaking vs packaging and global distribution. Did you ever thought distributed manufacturing could start from pasta?
And for those 3D gun and bullet making enthusiasts
http://www.open-electronics.org/newton3d-the-desktop-metal-3d-printer-is...
This longly awaited product should be finally available for preorder:
I would say custom manufacturing, especially being able to make one off replacement parts when people can't afford to change things like I-phones like socks every couple of months is going to be a good small business opportunty in local markets.
http://qz.com/166742/this-grape-gobbling-robot-is-driving-farmers-out-of...
Cock gobbling robots in Japan are driving women there out of business apparently too...
You are confirmed for a Leno booking.
Terminators don't need guns; they have crony capitalism!
Forward! Debt Serfs, Chinese slaves, & parasitic Kleptoligarchy!
Since the dawn of the industrial revolution, we have had machines replacing people. And America has prospered, until now. So "robots" is an impact but not the major one.
America went long slavery and autocratic Govt and shorted democracy and capitalism. That is what happens when a country gives unfettered access to countries practicing slavery, wholesale environmental pollution and autocracy.
Quality jobs in America will be produced quickly when tariffs are applied on parasitic countries like China. After all, "free trade" and "globalization" practices all clearly state countries like China should not be given unfettered access until they conform to democratic, capitalist free trade practices.
Until then, don't swallow the "robot took away employment" swill. It's propaganda.
Yeah, sorta. You see, the folks who have the money power have the macro vision of a pissant, so they decided to exploit cheap labor in parts of the world who'd never experienced what full-scale industrialization was like.
Now, the exploited folks know full well (think Beijing) what it's like.
They ain't gonna put up with that shit forever. Their central .gov will step in to "save" them, and the band plays on.
Seen that movie. Didn't buy the fkn t-shirt.
For many generations, the central planners have tried to maintain their bloodline. Kinda like dog breeders, they have created a progeny that is absolutely useless for anything other than looking at. They look magnificent, and they can be trained to do certain tasks to perfection.
Outside their narrow realm, they are useless. Like pissants.
The Mutts are enjoying a renaissance just now. Here's to the Mutts!
Long space robots, who are here to protect us from the terrible secret of space!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E0ot9iJm_k
Do you have stairs in your house?
I am protected.
Take a good fucking look all you rodent unions!!!!
I worked for a Fortune 500 thru the 90's and watched them close 8 mfg plants in the US and move them to china and Eastern Europe. One, in the middle of corn fields in Iowa had a really good and profitable year when they closed it. Good people in the middle of corn country with good wages (sorry but no unions) supporting families. They closed and moved it because they could get 7% on their money instead of 5%.
So, instead of being able to support their families and community, now they're working at walmart.
Btw, they actually dismantled the 50' long extrusion machines and shipped them overseas.
We not only lost our MFG, we lost our machines and infrastructures,
We will not "Grow Backwards' easily .
let them keep coming up with solutions of even more complexity. Let us see how that works out for the next 20 years.
"Hey, why did the robot stop working? The diagnostics say we need a new input pressure regulator thingy... Well the only one that makes it is xyz Corp, but they are out of business.... "
Obviously someone should have gotten a 3D printer and the schematics for the input pressure regularor thingy. Then xyz corp going out of business would be no big deal.
You are right, get an even more complex thingy to fix that thingy...
Spare image sensor thingys are going to be easy to find and source for that too.
Thanks for proving my point without even realizing your natural bias at the same time.
No offense
3d printing, right now, is way too slow and energy intensive. Never mind how fragile and underdeveloped the infrastructure to support it.
I still think it has promise, though, so I watch it. When Gene Haas gets behind it, shit will happen quick. Quick being at least a decade.
it's actually far worse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_machine here's the vanguard of the movement actually: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RepRap_Project interestingly one of the "movements within the movements" is for "self-recycling" using common everyday "throw away items" (plastic milk jugs, pizza boxes, etc) as the "regolith" so to speak for the "machine" to recreate itself. One interesting consequence would be to turn land fill areas into very valuable pieces of real estate "to be mined and made into things."
I get sick of this unskilled worker shit! Did Rosie the Riveter have skills before she and her sisters built one of the greatest war machine this planet has ever seen? Companies don't want to train people anymore. The field I was in for 27 years had nothing to do with manufacturing but 90% of the people we hired had to be trained and schooled in the job they were doing. Now I'm all for more people becoming apprentices and going Iinto a vocation or a trade instead of just getting a bs in marketing, but if companies don't train their employee's the way they want the job done, they're not only short sighted but will probably have employees not doing the job right.
So its the employers responsibility to train you? You mean so you can take those skills out and shop them in the market place for someone who will pay more because they didn't have to pay to train you? Become self fucking employed and see who pays to train your ass! Jesus Christ! Waaaa. No body wants to invest in me!
The vast majority of people in the workforce got their training on the job...while being paid. Why don't you go cry to Obama...he will train you!
No doubt most people got trained on the job. I probably trained 60-70 people in my job and those who got good at that job did move on, some took customers I had. Others could hack the job and left the industry. My point was when they worked under me if they weren't doing the job the way I wanted it could cost me money. Sure I got pissed when the people I trained moved on but that was part of the business.
My point is that it is becoming very expensive to train people and none of them has any loyalty. Why is it so ridiculous to expect people to come to you for a job already trained. There are schools, aren't there? We used to have apprentices and yo could pay them low wages while they earned but with the constant demand of increasing minimum wages, more onerous issues regarding terminations if they don't work out and many with exceptionally low remedial skills to start with, it is an uphill battle. Try spending your money, go out and hire someone and pay them from your pocket for a while and see how generous you feel about it then. Especially with an economy that you don't know if it will be there tomorrow or not. That is another big driver for automation in that you can invest many thousands into an employee who can just walk out the door on a whim or you may just not be able to stay afloat and lose them. A machine has resale value, people don't and in an uncertain world, we are all looking for a hedge.
I understand what you're saying. My industry was extremely specialized and there wasn't any specific education that would have help you in my field, and if the people I trained fucked up it was money out of my pocket. In the "Trades" people are trained and that's part of the industry. I think more kids should go into the "Trades" or go to a vocational schools. I know machinery has value that labor doesn't (had a family member who was in manufacturing). The only problem I have with automation is if everything becomes automated and you have less and less people working who is left to buy the product? As ive said before and this is unfortunate but I think a lot of kids come out of school woefully unprepared for the real world.
I agree. Automation is a natural response to other imbalances but it is not a cure. If we eliminate employees we also eliminate the markets for any product or service. It is dead end, but it is a dead end because of people's attitudes. The desire to achieve is dying and without it, everything dies. The simple fact that so many expect their employers to train them, without any real commitment on their part, says much. And we see the same from education where people go through the motions but learn very little and the schools don't care about anything but rising tuitions and fat donors. Easy money with the least amount of effort.
Exactly Nakki, I'm a line maint tech and I can't tell how much money the company has lot due to mistakes that could have been prevented with a good training program.If the techs were competent the down time would be lower and senior techs wouldn't have to go back and fix their mistakes.
You don't understand.
You describe a world that no longer exists.
Unfortunately, current corporate leadership cares about stock price and jumping ship ASAP. Employees? Who gives a shit if they know how to do the job, and who gives a shit about down time and internal expense.
As long as it seems that the stock is going up, the CEO will sell out long before the internal troubles of the company are found by Wall Street. By that time, he'll be the CEO of another company long before the current company fails.
You describe a world that no longer exists.
Unfortunately, current corporate leadership cares about stock price and jumping ship ASAP. Employees? Who gives a shit it they know how to do the job, I'll be the CEO of my next company long before the current company fails.
nakki, don't preach to me. Training is not the issue, it's aptitude that is lacking. That, and the realization that you have to actually get off your ass and do something, to add value. You wanna sit home all day writing code for video games? That's fine with me, but don't expect me to create (as if by magic) customers for your cybernetic wet dream.
You gotta do that (real world) shit yourself. Understand?
The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line August 4th, 2015. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
I hope it works better than Obamacare.
Yeah, and my asshole is the center of the universe. You can rotate freely, around. I don't mind.
As long as the wealth taken by the robots is given back to the displaced workers I'm all for the way things are going.
Otherwise handheld locaizedl EMP guns for the workers and long live the revolution.
Robot secretary that sucks dicks.
Reminds me of a bit I heard on the radio where the DJ's were discussing the new $7,500 talking Japanese sex robots. The one said he would pay $8,000 for one that didn't talk.
the free market solution for the reduced need for human's labor providing food(productivity) is to reduce the number of humans. there are 2 logical ends to the current growth forever, technology will provide economic model. there is the easter island outcome where the earth is denuded of resources needed to continue the model. the human population reverts back to what the world's environment can sustain.
the other outcome is more intriguing. japan has provided a prototype for the progression of demographics in an industrial and post industrial society. mrs. watanabe ain't fucking cum filled peckers if they are having sex at all. if this is the natural demographic response wired in some ancient genetic code that tells women not to make babies when more people are not needed to man the plastic extruder machine then what happens when production is so efficient that populations collapse over one generation. how is a more efficient, much more productive economy the best allocation of resources? is the solution the introduction of more expensive but more labor intensive production of goods? or is the result a few hundred people scattered around the world providing all the needs of the population with a master control board synched to every food producing, comfort providing bot in the world giving total obedience to the few hundred people needed on earth.
The roboticized supply chain will evolve simply because it is too technically sweet to avoid. This is the issue of the coming period evidenced by advances toward driverless cars and delivery trucks, robotic warehouses and factories.
Just a few things to consider:
The excess industrial capacity of the US in 1940 could have provided every family with everything needed for a comfortable life. Of course, that problem was solved by WWII. After all, an Oligarchy cannot tolerate that kind of equality.
And so, it doesn't take much to project a roboticized supply chain that provides everything anyone needs for virtually no real cost, simply because it is capable of cranking out excess industrial capacity.
This of course is provided that TPTB do not decide to wipe everybody out with a nuclear war and that the Fukushima cleanup goes off without a hitch and doesn't render the Northern Hemisphere uninhabitable.
Avoiding the elimination of the human race and the planet, what does a roboticized supply chain portend: essentially,
· No employment.(For societal practical purposes)
· Capacity to meet everyone's material needs simply by excess industrial capacity.
· People to figure out what they should do with the rest of their lives because there no longer exists substantial hirable employment
· A new social "ISM" as yet not identified as to just how that works.
· The question as to whether there is any longer a need for a medium of exchange.
· The question of why do we exist? If you have to work from 9 to 5, it's a question easily put off for another day
Global "over population" is a canard brought on by an Oligarchy of war and extraction of the wealth of sovereign nations, which leaves the local population impoverished and starving. Policies of trade promoted by the IMF and the World Bank have also done their part in enriching Western banks and corporations while driving billions worldwide into poverty and starvation.
Note, if corn for feeding cows and the ethanol program were diverted to feeding people, there is enough agricultural capacity, right now, in corn alone, to feed a world of 9 billion souls.
It is policies of extraction and war that have impoverished the world by disrupting distribution chains and creating a world of unfeedable over population. (If the War of Terror doesn’t convince you that war is an avoidable contrivance of Oligarchs to promote their sociopathic desire for wealth and power, I don’t know what will.)
Of course, in the current model, profit is the ultimate and only value, which is in the process of destroying both humanity and the planet. Because of this value, human beings are nothing more the economic units to be dispensed.
In this view, the David Rockefeller and Bill Gates Senior solution brought on by policies that they themselves promote is to declare “over population” and have decided that the best thing to do is to murder 80% of the world's population. Thus, they are running around the planet promoting this idea to the rest of the Oligarchic brethren. Of course, they are not volunteering themselves to be the first to be eliminated, which is rather disappointing.
The roboticized supply chain is going to come and not in the too distant future because things are reaching critical momentum in that direction. How the human race adapts to it is the question for the next 100 years.
Get over it, these robotized wedding killings are intended result of American exceptionalism.
Automation requires energy, and our govt is determined to make our energy the most expensive on the planet.
Jamba Juice... corporate juice pimps. 2008 Baby Mama. Had no Idea that was a real company.
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The future doesn't need you.
See that graph? Notice how the robot part seems to be going parabolic?
What are we going to do with a growing-at-1%-per-year, chronically unemployed or at least under-employed, in low paying jobs, population?
I know what China will do with them. China murdered 80 million people in the 60's under the great leap forward.
Will we simply be content to let the horses roam the pastures until they die? I am of course referring to the idea of the death of horse, supplanted by the horseless carriage. Except that took several decades. With our modern manufacturing, I think it'll take 10 years. Slightly more if we're lucky.
There won't be the fallback that we'll all learn to fix horseless carriages, err… I mean repair robots. As my buddy's 12 year boy said, "No-oo! SweetDoug! Robots will repair robots!"
How prescient. And they won't be built like the crap they will build for us.
Remember this dude?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7z6AKPGDZ4
Nobody will be safe from these creatures. Not teachers, doctors, construction workers, nobody.
And when we create real AI, that is so powerfully frighteningly intelligent, that writes its own software, that it views us as we view amoebas?
My problem is that nobody is having "this conversation" about what we're gonna do with these people, of which you and I are going to be part of, and I don't think that's a mistake…
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Meet the future. The future doesn’t need you.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-26/doctor-robot-will-see-you-short...
The World's Largest Miner Wants To Replace Its Overpaid Train Drivers With Robots
http://www.businessinsider.com/rio-tinto-replaces-drivers-with-robots-20...
The Less Obvious Dangers Of The Robot Economy
http://www.businessinsider.com/dangers-of-the-robot-economy-2013-9
Robots help counter soaring labor costs
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2013-11/14/content_17103496.htm
Foxconn Planning To Hire 1 Million Robots
http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/01/foxconn-planning-to-hire-1-million-robots/
Darpa PetMan Robot - Complete info
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S4ZPvr6ry4
SCHAFT robot wins DARPA Robotics Challenge Trials
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs8m3czkes4
http://www.businessinsider.com/3d-printer-builds-house-in-24-hours-2014-1
Meet "Smart Restaurant": The Minimum-Wage-Crushing, Burger-Flipping Robot
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-12/meet-smart-restaurant-minimum-w...
BANK OF AMERICA: 'Long Robots, Short Human Beings'
http://www.businessinsider.com/bofa-long-robots-short-human-beings-2014-1
Why is US jobs compared to WORLDWIDE robots? What about compairing it to the US used robots and US manufactured robots? Robots are the future, manufacturing jobs are not important, manufacturing is.
Our problem is that instead of using robotics US abandon manufacturing all together.
Automation has a possibility of dramatically changing human existence, for bad or good. The issue is one of ownership. If people were to work to achieve ownership and understand the operational principles of their technology they could share in the prosperity it would bring. But if people choose to pursue debt slavery through the enjoyment that this technology brings, they will find themselves falling ever farther behind and technology will fall into the hands of a very few who can control us to the extent that Obama could only dream. Virtually everything can be automated and those who becomes its dependents will find themselves as redundant and eventually obsolete. If you think useless eaters are endangered in a capitalistic society, just wait for the brave new world of socialism. There only purpose now is to provide voting stock to keep those in power who subsidize them. Once "singularity" in government has been reached such notions will no longer be endowed.
Google releases 'Contact Lens' that spy and collect data in real time.
Google release's 'chips' that can be implanted in a dog, that 24/7/365 tell you what rover see's and does.
NSA/CIA chooses GOOGLE as sole-supplier of HUMAN-IMPLANTED video/audio cortex chip-sets.
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If you have any love for life or FREEDOM, quit google TODAY.
That of course means we need a GOOGLE free ZH ALT ASAP.