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We have shown the charts; explained the implications; but perhaps nothing sums up the situation in the US labor force than "the other ongoing bridge scandal" in the following cartoon...
(h/t Sunday Funnies at The Burning Platform blog)
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Meanwhile, jobs are the number one priority for President Urkel.
(With Mexican accent)
We don't need no stinking jobs
(And the current economy proves it)
The water below is the government entitlement system. Not all those people fell. Some were beckoned to jump by the siren's of the welfare state.
Sorry, but I gotta vent something here tonight... that article yesterday about the poverty in Appalacia.... something about that irked me but I couldn't put my finger on it at the time. The thing about buying cases of soda with their foodstamp cards and then selling them at 50c on the dollar for cash. If they needed food, why would they do that? Obviously, food isn't a problem for many on the program. It's about maximizing their money haul every month. Only those who are abusing the system would adopt such a strategy.
What percentage of system abusers do you think that is? Somehow I have a hard time believing the the government line that it's a "tiny fraction". I read that article and it's hard not to have the number 50% just immediately to mind.
Maybe some substance abusing parents just don't feed their kids. Not that they don't need it, they just misuse it. Kids get screwed.
I agreed with many of the commenters that the poverty there was not "new."
We have lots of lemmings in this country.
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San Franciscans jump off Golden Gate Bridge to swim to freedom on Alcatraz.
C'mon in, the water's warm.
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"I will not rest until every American who wants a job can get a.........what's that, Beyoncé? You didn't wanted to sit at Kanye's table?"
"Might as well...
Sweet! Van Halen reference! (The real Van Halen).
Looks more like Japan when the American's arrived in WW2. We will not be taken, our honor and emperor Obama is more important, we jump for obamacare and other subsidised handouts
Why would they feel the need to feed their kids? Isn't that the job of schools these days?
"Maybe some substance abusing parents just don't feed their kids. Not that they don't need it, they just misuse it. Kids get screwed."
Horseshit. While I'm aware it happens, that's a number I DO believe is "a tiny fraction." Mal-nourished kids being brought into emergency rooms near death or being ratted out by neighbors' calls to police or family services is a tiny number and has been tiny for a long time.
Almost everyone who has dropped out of the labor force has gone immediately onto a government entitlement program of one form or another. Whether it's early retirement into SS, swapping an unemplyment check for a disability check or just dropping out and going on the government dole for the non-aged (welfare, food stamps, section 8 housing), they're on an entitement program. No problem, if you factor out that the rest of us working and paying taxes are CARRYING those people on our backs, while still caring for our own families, including aging parents in many cases.
And here's what really irks me: the standards for checking eligibility for those programs are LOWER than they were when the programs were first set up, back in the 60s and 70s. In fact, there is effectively NO eligibility verification going on AT ALL. (I'll note the current administration has actively worked to make this so. Ref. welfare employment eligibility qualifications being swept aside by executive order, totally against the law).
Government entitlement programs today are running under the same standards as the "liar loan" mortage market was in 2005. The consequences will be just as heavy.
There is no way I'm going to sit here and say it's OK for huge amounts of fraud to exist right under my nose because this time it's "for the children" and can't be called out for what it is. NO. FUCKING. WAY.
It is not okay. Another form of QE. Imagine if they pulled all the aid, all at once, and said "Sorry, we are bankrupt." Heh, heh, heh. All propped up. Potemkin lifestyles. The fed and the federal government are in the same trap. Can't take their foot off the accelerator, yet the foot on the accelerator makes it impossible to allocate capital to things that work. Collapse if you do, collapse if you don't.
Catch 22, my fellow bitchez.
How long it goes and how corrupt along the way determines the size of the collapse (Ref. the USSR). Apparently we have no problem now with making the collapse so big it will one day quickly and irrevocably alter our nation's place on the world stage, not to mention the standard of living enjoyed by those who live here.
Brought to you by the current Administration, accelerating the debacle
The Cloward Piven Strategy
That's the ticket!
It'll stop when it's naught but a shithole banana republic, a nationwide urban Detroit or rural W Virginia Appalachia.
When there's no more for the elite to soak out of the people.
Why do you assume the USA will remain a single unit?
What is good for New York or Washington isn't necessarily what is good for Texas or Arkansas.
I'm not so sure it will remain a single unit. But I'm quite sure TPTB will do everything in their power, including the mass slaughter of as many Americans as necessary.....to make sure it DOES remain a single unit, totally under their control, as it is today.
Let Bambam explain it for you... http://clashdaily.com/2014/01/destroy-america-barry-sotero-explains-clow...
I'm all for shrinking our role in the world circus.
ITS THE BEST THERE IS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln81Y87DHQA
look to spain - 3.67 int on bonds(drastic improvment), 25 percent unemployment, sugar daddy underwrite-we will "do what it takes", just a fucking mess if you remove any form of support. think unemployment near 15 percent here with massive support system. to get to real unemployment number, one needs to factor gub freebies that keep people supported...
apples to apple i'm guessing we are not much better off and heading toward worse.
thank our lucky rabbit tails we have the worlds reserve currency to abuse the hell out of...
Many of these people are poor in part because of chronic mismanagement of their lives. I had a roomate that was dirt poor and would trade welfare in one shape or another for cigarettes and alcohol. He never had enough food but he continued to waste his resources.
Im not saying he deserved the aid but it would be difficult to write the laws in a way to keep him from getting that money while continuing to pay out to someone who needed it. That being said, lifelong welfare is a terrible idea.
I say give em room and board and govt schools that offer training for trades and daycare for children.
Won't they have more children if I take care of their children? Won't they pursue a useless education if I pay for it?
would they fuck your significant other if you gave them a free condom?
answer:you missed the point, trick question, they are already fucking you-ha...
I wish I knew where to apply for all this free gov't money; it seems to only exist in the minds of ZH readers.
Millionaires paying less tax than their housekeepers grouse about the poor getting too much bread and gruel.
Oliver Swift. We need a new Dickens.
MsCreant spot on. I do feel sorry for the kids. I contracted with a local housing authority for 19 years. I saw it all the time. Parents going to the store buying food and selling it for cigarette and booze money. The kids ate Kraft macroni and cheese. What pisses me off is they give alot of these people EBT and then have to feed to children in the schools because their deadbeat parents do not feed them properly at home. The children are nothing more then checks from the government. The mother has two or more children all from different daddies to provide them with EBT cards.
I too agreed with commenters view on poverty in them those parts as nothing new.
oh the kids....don't worry about them as their are other 'programs' to feed and educate them.....the .gov is in every corner looking after the tikes (so they can become future debt slaves)....
As if those people had other options
That cartoon is 'what is' and should be contrasted with 'what should be'.
What should be is banksters et al. raining down on the sidewalks and streets of NYC.
It's called ham and meth on rye.
In the olden days of America charities and mutual aid societies all of voluntary accord were the norm and there was accountability with who was legitimately having a hard time and could use temporary assistance. It was wholesome aid, too, as these charities were very conservative Evangelical ones and there is a real connection made when one sees where the money one is donating is going, as opposed to the anonymity of welfare programs. There was integrity and dignity back then, whereas now it's about gaming the system, like with this laundering seen here as you're referring to, and there is no oversight because government monopolizes the aid system for those having hard times and instead of sobering up and having to show progress in their life to the people who are giving them money and maybe teaching them skills, they can just go to .govt and get the handout and all sorts of feel good new age BS like how they endorse people to go out and get as much free shit as possible, including aliens advertised on billboards.
It is better to think such people display potential. If ever they needed to compete they appear somewhat enterprising.
Most people are like electricity. They follow the path of least resistance. If you are in that path you will be shocked at what hits you.
I heard it was the pied piper lead um to the river, it wasn't until they crossed the bridge that they decided to jump.
So instead of crying about what are the solutions to this? Throw everyone off and let the honest 50% starve to death? Possible it could be worth the cost just to hold together what's left of the social fabric because if everyone that thinks they are 'safe' from this suddenly realize 50% of everyone else isn't that's going to be a problem for everyone.
It is a heck of a note that Fast-food jobs are being looked upon as "they're very fortunate to have it".
I remember 8 years ago saying that the PTB needed to lower our standard of living instead of trying to lift the world up to our standard.
Come on people, we can do better. Let's start by getting rid of the stinking sacks-o-crap currently smelling up our House.
When everyone is dirt poor, no one will be dirt poor. At that point you won't even remember what being "Rich" was.
A cousin in NC was happy his college degreed kid got a job as an Assistant Manager in a fast food place. Down there it was considered to be a 'good' job. The father has been in and out of work (workign about half the time) for the last 6 years. The Fortune 500 company that owned the plant he used to work for sold the place off a decade back. If you wanted to keep working there you saw a 40% cut in wages. Many took their 401K's and ran - only to see tat value tank if they left it in company stock. He got a job teaching in the local CC (HVAC and such) but saw that cut, eventually got a job with the local city and then was let go...... nothing left that pays decent.
Most of the factory jobs were sent overseas, construction died and other than that... you've got hog factories and tobacco farming.
When all you've got is hog factories and tobacco farming. Make smoked pork!
Too funny, making a blanket statement about "NC". Have you ever been here? Charlotte is doing fine and the research triangle is booming. Some of the mountain region is struggling (other than Boone and Asheville) but the coast is OK. NC is wider than Florida is long, it's a big state with 3 distinct regions. Anecdotes are great, unless they paint with too broad a brush.
Research triangle 'should' be fine.....government contracts
And Charlotte's fine simply because it's one of the largest banking centers in the country. NASCAR sure as hell ain't it.
@ El Oregonian;
"I remember 8 years ago saying that the PTB needed to lower our standard of living instead of trying to lift the world up to our standard."
Creating "equality". That's been the liberal cause in the US for at least 50 yrs. So now they're applying it globally, how did they create this "equality"? By lowering standards and giving special priveleges, of course.
Where do you see equality?
(1) A bridge may symbolize any sort of transition in the dreamer's life. Freud gives the example of a woman who wants to be a man, and consequently dreams of bridges that don't quite reach the other side of the river. However, the symbolized change may be something that can be acheived more easily, but still possibly requiring will and determination; fot example, a change of lifestyle, or passing from middle years into old age.
(2) The bridge is a means of crossing a river, and even crossing from one country to another - foreign, new, strange - country. It may therefore symbolize a critical juncture in your life: for example, about whether you are going to be able to go through with a change from living on your own to living with a partner (or the reverse); from one job to another; from one set of values to another.
(3) It may represent the male sexual organ, which 'bridges the gap' between male and female sexual partners.
(4) It may also symbolize birth - that is, the crossing from 'the other world' to this, or from womb to an independent existence.
And that is why college grads can't find jobs-because they're taught the psycho babble you just spewed about bridges, instead of how to build them.
You beat me to the comment. It is obvious that the poster was very attentive in Psychology or Psychiatry class or classes. I always follow the Monty Python method of dealing with someone who starts talking like that individual, "run away"!
To Recovery! :D
Jump from bridge are lucky one. After fiat edict of minimum wage, even more worker is unemploy, reliant on state apparatus for nutritional supplement. Imagine Khmer Rouge Killing Field expand from Virginia to California as central idiot planner is further to destroy Amerika.
Just imagine is right Boris!
Just like Lennon would have sung about.
In Russia, bridge jumps off you!
No one speaks the sad truth like a Russian does. Thanks, Boris.
Imagine Khmer Rouge Killing Field expand from Virginia to California as central idiot planner is further to destroy Amerika. After fiat edict of minimum wage, even more worker is unemploy, reliant on state apparatus for nutritional supplement. Comes when plug, is pulled. Out lights go, in Amerika. Khmer Rouge Killing Field expand from Virginia to California.
<----LOL! You've already partaken
I think I see a lot of people i know in that picture.
Sad but true.
BTW, I'm watching the game today (Seattle vs. SF). Gives me something to do during the lag time while I make beer.
This isn't anywhere near as much a blood bath as the games Commodos gave us earlier. But the food and drinks are better.
The Seahawks are the only pro football team out here in FEMA region X. I figger that next week when my customers try to engage me in conversation regarding the game, it might be better for sales if I can respond with something more than a blank stare. I'm sure that the beer I'm enjoying right now is way better than whatever the Romans were drinking 2000 years ago. ;-)
>>better than Romans
Well, don't know what you are drinking, but if you are drinking what most Americans are drinking (gmo toxic swill from a tin can leaching metals and bpa), I think the Romans probably had better stuff.
I'm sure you'll live a majestice life into you 160's.
Spaghetti dude speed.
I'm drinking a home made porter right now. It's pretty decent. No doubt the Romans probably had wine that was nearly as good or even as good as what we have available today. But I like fizz, and I don't think carbonated beer wasn't invented until around 1300 AD.
Depending on lager, ale, or barleywine, and the primary/secondary fermentations, bottle fermentation (now an easily available convenience) is the final magick. All hail.
The Romans used water pipes made of lead, yeah much better!
Well waddya know. FEMA region X has defeated FEMA region IX. Woohoo!
Always shark food.
"If you like your Labor Participation Rate, you can keep your Labor Participation Rate."
Suicide is never the answer...your masters want you to do it...it must be wrong.
Depends on the situation. When they start running out of slaves, they might prefer you don't commit suicide. It might someday be the only power you have left over yourself.
In facilities like Guantanamo Bay, you don't even have that level of freedom or control.
I've seen people jump, sometimes it seems like I'm the only one who saw, only a glimpse in the peripheral, in the rear view just a bag churned up by the tires.
Trust me, the fools cheer it on, not realising who they're losing, thinking they just moved up a place in line.
But someday, when they finally reach the window, it will be empty.
We are where we are due to slaves and they will be a plenty for ever. Memeber, ONLY ~10% wanted to escape the chains of Britian. Enslaved, one gets to eat the entrails of pigs, which I might add are pretty damn good if cooked right.
Suicide is never the answer...your masters want you to do it...it must be wrong.
Yeah - somebody who tells you to jump off a bridge is probably not your friend.
You can somehow tell that this political cartoonist did this one from the heart--and not merely to meet the editorial deadline. There's blood in this ink.
Looks like Unemployment is going down
Can all unemployment insurance. Unemployment drops to zero: instant full employment, it's an economic miracle!!!
Ergo Reducto Absurdium
Sometime you are must take theory to extreme to see absurdity. Other hand, maybe just break Dr. Paul Krugman face to stimulate local economy.
LMAO - well it does fit Krugman's broken window fallacy and would be easier than an alien invasion he could call it the broken face theory
Unemployment is fall rapidly (3.8m/s2)!
3.8 raised to the M power is pretty fucking fast Boris. I think thats the freefall equation for Neptune !!!
Boris, you are one sick Puppy.
Thanks be unto Godt;)
Boris Alatovkrap is said:
Unemployment is fall rapidly (3.8m/s2)!
Unemployment measure is fall drastic, drop to have doing significant since 9.8m/s2 in recalled of days past.
Ooops, Boris is mistype number is so worry about corpse of falling worker class and application of super script HTML tag. Everything in slow motion.
Number mistype is probable do better the approximate worker class perceivement: fall seem do are taking much longer, is still the lethal impact.
Another Boris Ruske outta the parka. :)
Sorry but that is in bad taste. Even though it is true.
Don't sweat it. Water under the bridge.
Exactly. The time to worry is when it's water over the bridge.
Or when it starts dancing like the Tacoma Narrows bridge.
Resonant frequency of bridge structure is designate by length between critical member and is match oscillation of breeze for create destructive and constructive interference pattern. Is like Central Bank printing and natural cycle of market, dangerous combination.
Tacoma Narrows Bridge Collapse....Just like the World Economy...American Engineering at its finest...Learning to build Bridges instead of write psychobabble as one uneloquent writer in a previous post complained...
See it...see it here and now...recorded for posterity.
"Is like Central Bank printing and natural cycle of market, dangerous combination."
Like is the sign we drove by today.
Matches your description. Dangerous combination.
haha. haha. boris said 'member'.
What if you are in a boat, with water under the bridge just low/high enough to keep you, and hold you?
If I had a nickle...
Bobcat Goldthwait "AAAHHHHHHH I lost my job! Well, not really... I know where it is, it's just that when I go there......there's somebody else standing there doing it!"
Obama: "It's racial animus that blunts my approval ratings."
Obama: "It's blunts I rate and approve that animate my choomwagon racing."
Is racist pain in anus that is blunt AmeriKa economy.
Poor "junior bankers"!...The Pressure!!
it's surprisingly easy to jump off the george washington bridge actually. beautiful view too!
if you live in ny and have never biked or walked over it, it's worth the trip.
If you live in NY, you don't have the time.
Especially problematic with traffic jams from lane closures on NJ side
For all you progressives the BLS does not stand for Bush Labor Statistics.
You forgot a few letters
It's BuLL ShIT Labor Statisitcs.
And BOTH parties have been lying like mad about everything since Carter got hung for telling the truth. Easier to lie than admit how bad things are. Enough idiots will believe the lie to get you re-elected.
Amen. And if you do not tell the lie they want to hear by God they will find someone else who will tell the lie they want to hear.
Im the one in the middle slightly left getting ready to do that killer bellybuster.
I have quite an imagination about alternatives to jumping.
Edit: If I say more, I get in a whole lotta trouble.
That's what the interNET is for: find the disgrundled and stupify them.
The water's warm, jump in!
Frank Sinatra - Come Fly With Me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmQq6yLe2ww (3:19)
Sad that our nation is now so full of sarcastic democrat trolls that the only serious ones left feel like doing this...
Officials on the scene aren't certain what launched them off the bridge deck, but nearby witnesses reportedly heard "a giant sucking sound" just prior.
The cartoon is totally misleading! Why only this past weekend there was a democrat strategist on TV telling us of the 18 million jobs created since Obama was elected. And Obama himself will tell us the same at the state of the union address coming up. And then the Washington Post will give him 3 ponochios and that will be the end of it as the major news media will once again be hot on the trail of the Chris Christy traffic jam story. Don't ya know....and iran getting the bomb but who cares when Michelle Obama is having a big b-day party. Thank God for our free press or we wouldn't know anything! What time is that party?
I resent not being invited to the party.
After all I've done for them
Just pay attention and it's all solvable
It's actually broke beyond repair, but can't tell the children that now, can we?
I understand your resentment. After all, you're helping to pay for it.
and iran getting the bomb
and iran getting the bomb
Well, there goes your credibility. Why don't you run over to Iraq for us and find those Weapons of Mass Destruction? We'll give you an M16 an a free orange jumpsuit.
Hypocrisy. That's all there is.
The deeper you look, the more you realize that among all those on Gubemint dole are your friends, your family and your coworkers.
All hypocrites. Abusers. Pretenders.
Not to mention the loudmouths on this board.
who will be the next samuel gompers to restart the socialist revolution otherwise known as labor taking their share of the profits of their labor.
"labor taking their share of the profits of their labor"
Which can also be referred to as capitalism. Think on it a bit.
Only thing wrong with this is, under a socialist regime, profits are bad, BAD! So you will get no profits, and labour gets no share.. TPTB gets it all, and then disburses according to your skill at toadying and sycophancy.
JUMP YOU FUCKERS!
1973 that oil shock started the decline in the manufacturing as costs rose manufacturers were squeezed and sales fell for the gas guzzlers japan had better small cars and U S car companies didn't have real good quality after that productivity stalled. I have never read why but unions didn't help
cost of capital started going up and cost cutting with poor product hurt the auto industry. the economy suffered through as steel went down eventually in the 80's things got a little better chryslers k car and mini van saved them things got going in the 90's but other industries like textiles were being driven out by foriegn compitition small companies also in many industries lost money and closed the economy has been tough for 40 years for non skilled workers
1973 that oil shock started the decline in the manufacturing as costs rose manufacturers were squeezed and sales fell for the gas guzzlers japan had better small cars and U S car companies didn't have real good quality after that productivity stalled.
Obviously the problem started before 1973. The US companies had lousy quality back as far as 1960, The unions added lots of "feather bedding" cost to all US products. And the accountants were running the manufacturing companies. A junior cost accountant could find a way to save 2/10 of a cent on some part and cover his entire salary for a year or two. 2/10 here, 2/10 there... pretty soon the equipment just started to fall apart. I was there. I saw it.
And that's why I say this.
Planned failure. If it won't last, you have to buy a new one every five years. The union thugs and their bosses didn't even realize they opened the door to the creative destruction
ALL markets & ALL products would feature this.It costs a lot to make a thing last much longer than it is needed. Just imagine if everything we wanted rust proof was made of gold.It would work. Except there'd be much less gold to use for anything else & those objects would be insanely expensive.There's a balance customers & producers need to find for cost vs durability.Customers won't buy crap that doesn't last long enough.
I don't. iPad / iPhone? Never. For example.
I think there was a war too!
A few politicians hanging by a noose, perhaps a few bankers, would compliment the illustration nicely.
Wishful thinking but would provide all the excuse they need.
since when do they need excuses? Today no restraint is shown.
I have been running a support group for people who have lost someone to suicide for 5 years after losing my son to suicide. It's not as clever and cute as a cartoon I assure you. Educate yourself www.afsp.org
The recently released figures showing a strong decline in job formation during December of 2013 may be more than a noisy statistic it be an omen of danger ahead. This is a reminder that Janet Yellen who is about to take over as head of the Federal reserve will have her hands full. Not only does this call into question claims the economy has reached escape velocity but lends credence to claims by others like me that QE and artificially low interest rates are not the answer. These policies and massive government deficit spending can only carry a distorted economy so far. Expect this issue to come front and center in coming months as the Fed will come under increased scrutiny and experience increasing demands to defend their policies. More in the post below as to why slower job growth is a big red flag.
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