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US Officials: Iran "Falls Well Short" Of Eligibility To Attend Syria Conference

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While momentum has been with the hopes that Iran has gone full-peace-tard and following Iran's foreign ministry stating earlier that it would attend the conference on Syria, known as Geneva II; senior US officials have stepped in...

  • *IRAN NOT ELIGIBLE FOR SYRIA CONFERENCE, US OFFICALS SAY: AP
  • *U.S. SAID TO WANT UN TO RESCIND IRAN INVIATION TO SYRIA TALK
  • *IRAN FAILS TO MEET REQUIREMENTS FOR GENEVA II TALKS:US OFFICIAL

After practically inviting them, the US demands that the UN rescind the invitation to Iran to attend since it "falls well short" of what is required.

 

Via AP,

Senior U.S. officials say Iran has still not met the criteria to participate in an upcoming international conference on Syria and its invitation to attend should be withdrawn unless it fully and publicly endorses the aims of the meeting.

 

Speaking to reporters on Monday, the officials said public statements from Iran about the conference, known as Geneva II, fall "well short" of what is required for Tehran's participation. They said that the United Nations must rescind the invitation unless that changes. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter by name. But, their comments tracked with a statement the State Department issued on Sunday.

 

The officials spoke after Iran's foreign ministry said earlier Monday that it would attend without preconditions.

Perhaps more than ironically time though, Europe seems ok with it...

  • *EU SUSPENDS 'CERTAIN EU SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAN'
 

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Mon, 01/20/2014 - 10:50 | 4348008 Mark Carney
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Iran Officials: USA "Falls Well Short" Of Eligibility To Attend Syria Conference

 

there fixed it

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 10:57 | 4348044 resurger
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They need to write a petition to the dean now...

all is vain...

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:06 | 4348078 Divided States ...
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Who is Demanding Who?

I think we forgot the first part.

"Israel demands that" the US demands that the UN rescind the invitation to Iran to attend since it "falls well short" of what is required.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:08 | 4348086 john39
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so pathetically obvious at this point...   i can only hope that the rest of the world simply turns its back on the U.S. and allows it to implode, taking israhell with it.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:45 | 4348189 NoDebt
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Can anyone discern ANY coherent foreign policy going on under the current administration?  I mean ANYTHING- even if you don't agree with it, is there any line of logic or implicit goals that anyone can see being pursued in their actions?

They're like a bunch of monkeys flinging poo around the room and hoping some of it sticks to the walls.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 15:52 | 4348883 negative rates
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Uncle Sam needs to have his head examined!

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 16:34 | 4349018 0b1knob
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Is the Muslim brotherhood invited?   Will they get expedited TSA treatment?

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-gave-muslim-brotherhood-vip-treatment-no-tsa-pat-downs/

 

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 18:04 | 4349282 Leaf of Tree
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The strategy of the tribe is:

- create as much havok in the Middle East 

- balcanize all Israel's neighbours

- export extremists to Europe

 

Result = wars (profitable) that will create all the conditions for the Antichrist to step up and lead the tribe.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:18 | 4348289 The.Harmless.Who
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Nearly there John39, nearly there... 

 

The Israhellites are in charge of the US' economy, and this bloodline will continue when Old Yellen steps down and Israeli Fischer takes over.  

 

That reminds me, can we now put any Rothschild conspiracy theories to bed?  They are no longer theories.  

 

“Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws.” - Roger that! 

 

Que the Zionists running to the defence of the indefensible, and deflecting the blame on the muslim this and chinese that.  (No doubt guided by the successor of the Megaphone Desktop Tool propagated by GIYUS).

 

The truth is Hitler was to blame. 


Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:14 | 4348104 trader1
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who really wants peace here?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/20/us-syria-un-iran-idUSBREA0J01K20140120?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

An unexpected last-minute U.N. invitation for Iran to attend a peace conference on Syria threw the talks into doubt on Monday, with the Syrian opposition saying it would pull out unless Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon withdraws his offer. 

Iran is the main foreign backer of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and its presence has been one of the most contentious issues looming over the first talks attended by both Assad's government and opponents, set to start on Wednesday in Switzerland.

 

Adding to dark clouds over the talks, Assad said he might seek re-election this year, effectively dismissing any talk of negotiating his departure from power, his enemies' main demand.

 

Ban's invitation appeared to catch Western powers off guard. The United States and France both said Iran was not welcome at the talks unless it publicly backed an accord reached in Geneva in 2012 that calls for a transitional government for Syria.

 

"This is something Iran has never done publicly and something we have long made clear is required," U.S. State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a statement. "If Iran does not fully and publicly accept the Geneva communiqué, the invitation must be rescinded."

Syria's main political opposition group in exile - the National Coalition, which had contentiously agreed to attend the conference known as Geneva 2 only two days ago - said it would now pull out unless the invitation to Iran was withdrawn.

"The Syrian Coalition announces that they will withdraw their attendance in Geneva 2 unless Ban Ki-moon retracts Iran's invitation," it said in a Twitter post, quoting National Coalition spokesman Louay Safi.

 

Ban said he had issued the invitation after Iran's foreign minister Javad Zarif told him Tehran agreed to accept the 2012 accord.

 

"Foreign Minister Zarif and I agreed that the goal of the negotiations is to establish by mutual consent a transitional governing body with a full executive powers," Ban said.

 

"He has assured me that like all the other countries invited to the opening day discussions in Montreux, Iran understands that the basis for the talks is the full implementation of the 30 June 2012 Geneva communiqué."

 

But Iran said it would attend the talks without having accepted any preconditions, apparently standing by its longstanding position.

"We have always rejected any precondition for attending the Geneva 2 meeting on Syria ... Based on the official invitation that we have received, Iran will attend the Geneva 2 without any preconditions," Iran's ISNA news agency quoted Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Marzieh Afkham as saying.

 

Russia, which has long lobbied for Iran to attend and criticized the opposition and the West for opposing Tehran's presence, said there was no point in a conference without it.

 

"Not to ensure that all those who may directly influence the situation are present would, I think, be an unforgivable mistake," Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:40 | 4348168 Element
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Reality check, certain states want Syria totally defanged and destroyed, to remove all effective resistance to a regional hegemony. Anyone who thinks Assad's Govt will stand aside given that, are either not thinking straight, ... or they are trying to make sure you don't. Assad is going to win, and that is why a negociation is the only way out now.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 16:50 | 4349055 chemystical
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The US, ISR, and the major opposition group in SYR (which might as well all 3 be called by a single name) are miffed?  The US demands that Iran abide by the 1st Geneva communique of 30 June 2012?

Let's see who the players were who dictated that communique:

China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States, Turkey, Iraq (Chair of the Summit of the League of Arab States), Kuwait (Chair of the Council of Foreign Ministers of the League of Arab States) and Qatar (Chair of the Arab Follow-up Committee on Syria of the League of Arab States), and the European Union High Representative for Foreign and Security Policy.

The usual suspects (and China might now see its interests differently than it did 18 months ago) along with "independent" Iraq and the same Qatar that has been instrumental in deploying and financing the "rebels" in SYR's, ahem, "civil" war.  Well, yeah, that sounds fair.

 

 

 

From the commnique:

 "All parties must re-commit to a sustained cessation of armed violence in all its forms and implementation of the six-point plan immediately and without waiting  for the actions of others. The government and armed opposition groups must cooperate with UNSMIS with a view to furthering the implementation of the above in accordance with its mandate."

Subjectively apply this only to SYR?  If endorsing (and actually furthering) this criterion is what is required for a seat at the table, then why are ISR and its proxy states worldwide permitted a seat at any table?  Not to pick on ISR but they epitomize "do as we say; not as we do" as well as anyone ever has.

 

Tue, 01/21/2014 - 05:05 | 4350908 trader1
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say it isn't so?!

Syria accused of torture and 11,000 executions

excellent timing on the release just 1-day ahead of the big meeting in geneva.  

assad's representatives will have a tough time defending his continued leadership in the current or future transitional govt.

i'm curious how russia will respond, considering that terrorism threat hanging over their heads with the olympics fast approaching.  

will someone offer to help put an end to the suiciders?

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:51 | 4348200 Canadian Dirtlump
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precisely, you goaltending gangster. the forces behind the western powerbase obviously are split and the capricious policy making is eroding what little credibility they have.

At this point there is no cohesive opposition political force since this only ever was a plan by foreigners funded by and fought by foreigners. Let the west and the house of saud hang themselves. Dr. Assad is winning the war and enjoys popular support the average politician could only dream of which gives the west zero leverage.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:41 | 4348355 Canadian Dirtlump
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http://friendsofsyria.co/2014/01/20/robert-ford-the-real-leader-of-the-s...

Interesting notion. This states the us has behind the scenes rubber stamped a face saving plan including a retirement for the satanic monkey banda4.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 10:50 | 4348009 Millivanilli
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Yes, to attend, Iran must overthrow a country a year- per the MIC.

 

War is peace.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:06 | 4348081 101 years and c...
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Iran isnt allowed to play nice.  If they do, oil prices collapse.  And, as Ben would say, deflation cant be allowed to happen.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 13:34 | 4348024 Ignatius
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Maybe the US/NATO should put Iran's nuts in a vice in order to clarify the West's position?

Edit:  Apparently some people need the 'sarc' tag?

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 10:53 | 4348031 Catullus
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They didn't fill out the proper paperwork! There are rules! There are procedures.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:01 | 4348059 Cannon Fodder
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Fill out in triplicate, re-submit in 90 days for further disapproval.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 10:54 | 4348034 Dr. Engali
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Whoa.......didn't see that one coming.......not!

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 10:55 | 4348036 GolfHatesMe
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Not promoting enough Climate Change BS?

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 10:55 | 4348038 resurger
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Kos nanat madar genday' Merica 

 

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 10:57 | 4348046 Infinite QE
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AIPAC has spoken. The Khazar global occupation continues.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:01 | 4348061 resurger
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Wait Bandar is part of the AIPAC right?

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 10:58 | 4348047 Sudden Debt
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EU... needs... oil... cheap... will crawl... and beg... like dog...

 

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:00 | 4348054 fonzannoon
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Somehow this guy in the phone booth reminds me of Putin and the guy outside of it reminds me of Obummer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oNGY3Rtd0E

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:02 | 4348062 Cannon Fodder
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So on what authority is it that we can say who can an can't attend an "international" meeting? I'm really getting tired of us being the world bully....

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:01 | 4348233 BigJim
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When you've killed as many Muslims as Obama, maybe you'll be in a position to say who is entitled to attend an M.E. peace conference, too.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:04 | 4348071 NoWayJose
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I bet Obama has excluded Syria from the 'conference on Syria' too... Let's hope that China, Russia, Germany, and Saudi Arabia don't hold a 'conference on America' and exclude us....

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:23 | 4348122 LMAOLORI
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About Syria those rebel's we armed that pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda - 

 

Oh, You Mean sKerry And Obama Lied? snip

 

No kidding, right?

A team of security and arms experts, meeting this week in Washington to discuss the matter, has concluded that the range of the rocket that delivered sarin in the largest attack that night was too short for the device to have been fired from the Syrian government positions where the Obama administration insists they originated.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 16:58 | 4349078 chemystical
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Why wouldn't Syria be excluded from Geneva II?  They were excluded from Geneva I.  (See the players in my post above).

http://www.un.org/News/dh/infocus/Syria/FinalCommuniqueActionGroupforSyria.pdf

Communique?  Must be a synonym for "unilateral decree". 

To be fair, the, ahem, "rebels" were also excluded.  Then again that's likely that's because the US (and ISR and Bandar and Qatar) hadn't yet fully decided who the "rebels" would be.  Difficult to pose a united front without a frontman; "Hmm, the rapist or the liver eater?  I dunno.  Schlomo you decide."

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:05 | 4348073 BullyBearish
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If you only get goodies by fighting terrorism, then dammit there must be terrorists!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:05 | 4348077 JustObserving
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Iran "Falls Well Short" Of Eligibility

Probably not terrorist enough:

Iran FM: ‘Supporters of terrorism invited to Geneva 2’

Countries that openly support terrorism are invited to Geneva 2, and it would be good if they were required to stop doing so in order to participate in the conference, Iran’s Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif told RT’s Nadezhda Kevorkova.

After talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, Zarif explained how Iran sees the political situation in the Middle East and who is to blame for the war in Syria and Iran’s isolation.

http://rt.com/op-edge/iran-terrorism-geneva-conference-897/

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:01 | 4348228 Element
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The US can't be magnanimous, it wants to treat Iran like Cuba, because Cuba made the US blink and back-down as well. But they won't get away with that stuff with Iran (no matter what the Sauds demand). Times have changed and the US is going to have to engage or become increasingly irrelevant, or worse, just plain unwanted and ineffectual.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:06 | 4348083 DeliciousSteak
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Good to see sanity is winning in the EU. It's a long road to mental recovery but with help from the almighty Putin all will be well.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:28 | 4348120 falak pema
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Blowing hot and cold. This is a Kissingeresque moment in US ME policy under Kerry.

The Iran deal is NOT about nuclear as its made out to be. Its about REGIONAL DETENTE and thawing of US intransigent support of Saud and Israel regimes.

If the Iran detente occurs it will be a game changer for region, like Kissinger's ping pong diplomacy was for Nam war and subsequent Chinese thaw. 

What are the potential fall outs for USA/EUROPE?

1° Cheaper conventional oil prices. As the whole production of Iran/Iraq, the unlocking of Hot War Pak/afghan corridor to India for the Turkomen and later Iran gas pipeline; aka TAP line and other projects; opens up the region of Indian/Pak subcontinent to energy revival and MAYBE, OH MAYBE, PEACE, as the US imperialist hold built on MIC/CIA/OPium trade, in post 9/11 paranoia hubris, will recede. 

2° Libyan oil increase  potential, like Iran/Iraq/Khazak (Kashagan field is 8 years late) and Turkomen gas, will create a regional oil mini boom which will be detrimental to Saud production in the interim period (2015-2020), where there may be reduced oil prices which world economic revival desperately NEEDS.

3° By turning around Iran and even bringing Syria cum Turkey into the fold, the Iran to Europe via Syria -Turkey gas pipeline deal may have positive repercussions for West : It keeps the Russian bear at bay from GAzrpom domination of EUrozone! 

Those who lose out in this race (temporarliy) are Saud/EMirates and Qatar, possible Gazprom to EU. As energy rebalancing will be at their expense. But its during the period of ten years at most.

Peak conventional oil is a reality which will assert itself very fast from 2025 onwards. 

4° ANother loser in this temporary race could be shale plays in US which require a miimum price of 80 $/bbl ( WTI scale) for those investment to B.E. This could be a damper to shale oil plays in interim period.

Obammy/Mutti have to decide if the cheaper price of ME conventional oil is essential to save the capitalist system from going belly up as it will if oil goes North of 110 $/bbl level for Brent and doesn't fall to around 80 with Iran-Iraq spike from 2015 onwards.

Thats the big Kissinger type decision that the West must make. 

Dr Nasser Saidi: Iran's New Direction » Gulf Business

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:57 | 4348219 trader1
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+1

that's a plausible analysis.  but, i have trouble reconciling that with the South Stream news of late.

russian sources claiming EU has no issues anymore with the pipeline proposal...

also, throw in a little (foreign-sponsored?) protest activity in Ukraine again.

with all the possible angles at play here, i can only conclude that it all adds up to a recipe for something like this.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:33 | 4348152 Element
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Suck it up Secretary-General Serf, you're a tenant and the land lord has spoken. This is the part where mommy said there's no such thing as a free lunch.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:33 | 4348154 holgerdanske
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usa, the biggest terrorist organization in the world, ever!

 

So, still something to brag about! You are the biggest at something.!

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:38 | 4348169 ArrestBobRubin
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Shel Adelson yanked D'ohbama's chain. If he could be humiliated, he would be here.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 11:39 | 4348176 DOT
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"I was for it before I was against it " has now morphed into:

"I am for it. Iam against it."

 

Best Foreign Policy Ever !

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:05 | 4348243 sudzee
Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:14 | 4348286 Singelguy
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Let's see. Iran provides financial, military and logistical support to the Assad government. They are definitely involved in the war process so it seems only logical that they be involved in the peace process. It is obvious that the USA does not want the war to end.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 14:00 | 4348546 kenezen
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Short sweet and exactly right!

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:49 | 4348323 MickV
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And Obama, the domestic enemy of the US, falls well short of eligibility for POTUS, since he was born a British subject of a British subject father. Therefore he is not a "natural born Citizen" of the United States, since he was born with foreign allegiance. Indeed he is probably a British subject to this day.

The "PERSON ACTING AS President" shall be REMOVED (It does not have to be by impeachment, see also "no person but a natural born Citizen shall be eligible...") due to "INABILITY" (25th Amendment and 3 US Code 19), i.e mental physical or constitutional disability (see the 12th Amendment ("as in the case of the constitutional disability of the President").

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 15:18 | 4348753 Winston Churchill
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Kenya was independant at the date of Obozo's birth.His father was Kenyan.Obozo was never British.

His mother was American,brought up in America ,so under the law he is a US citizen irrespective of

his place of birth. A natural born citizen.

Whether his US citizenship was renounced in Indonesia(probably) would be the only grounds to claim non eligilbility.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 16:34 | 4349011 MickV
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Wrong. The British Nationality Act of 1948 says that all children born of Citizens of the colony of Kenya were British subjects. Kenya became independent in 1963, and Obama 2 was born of British subject Barack Obama Sr. in 1961. Thus Barack Obama was born a British subject. Whether his US citizenship was revoked by Indonesian adoption would have no effect on whether Obama 2 was a natural born Citizen, a condition of BIRTH, since the actions of the parent cannot be held against a minor child w/ reference to citizenship (SEE Perkins v. Elg).

Nice try OBOT

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 17:48 | 4349222 MickV
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US LAW in the form of SCOTUS precedent:

"The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners." Minor v. Happersett, 88 US 162, 167 (1874)

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:37 | 4348334 highwaytoserfdom
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let's make sense as to who is setting the table for who.   Lets see US trained Saudi pilots, Saudi 3 largest air force (how many GE engines?), Saudi's buy GE plastics and major holders in Citi bank.  Weapons of mass destruction, having Iran/Iraq war (dead ?). overthrowing democratic elected president?

Iran you need this  CV  to sit at table.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change...

 

 

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 12:50 | 4348372 Kirk2NCC1701
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Not at all surprised, now that Syria has handed over its chems.

Wait for the DOD/NATO curtain to be pulled back when Syria is totally defanged and declawed.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 13:55 | 4348522 therevolutionwas
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That may bring out the Russkies "red line."

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 13:06 | 4348394 tony wilson
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Iran "Falls Well Short" Of Eligibility To Attend Syria Conference

 

what of the sas,cia the mi6.the ex parachute regiment hired killers.

the sas trained saudi and the filthy turk,libyan cia jihad tools all in country.

all in syria raping plotting testing new depleted uranium munitions.

powered and organized from a british spy base in cyprus and centcom in jordan.

shipping syrian kids for rape in saudi and qatar humans being used for organ harvesting.

alleppo factories stripped of heavy engineering and shipped to turkey.

total decontruction of a self supporting and sustaining country with zero external debt.

refugee nations some sent to scared under  threat and oil seige norway.

BBC PART OF THE SATANIC ROT

 

WHO IS FALLING SHORT HERE

FUCKING WHO

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 13:53 | 4348510 therevolutionwas
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Being a next door neighbor doesn't qualify them?

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 14:43 | 4348641 NuYawkFrankie
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Like being dis-invited to the Vampire's Crypt.

Mon, 01/20/2014 - 15:14 | 4348733 Jack Burton
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Israel commands and America responds. A foreign nation holds America at the end of puppet strings. This is fact, every day it is proved by US actions. None of this is in the interests of Americans, but it is in interest of Israel and it's dual citizen army here in the USA.

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