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Obamacare Strikes Again: Target Drops Part-Timers From Healthcare Plan (And Fires Others Just In Case)

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Effective April 1st, Target announced to day that it would no longer offer healthcare coverage to its part-time employees. As The Hill reports, Target's HR executives 'spun' the decision as good for the employees..."by offering them insurance, we could actually disqualify many of them from being eligible for newly available subsidies that could reduce their overall health insurance expense." The company will provide a $500 cash payment to "minimize disruption," and specifically calls out Obamacare as "providing new options... that we believe our part-time members may prefer."Of course, just for good measure, Target is cutting 475 jobs and chooing not to fill a further 700 open positions - again, we presume, to minimize disruption (to their bottom line).


Via The Hill,

In a blog post on the company’s website, Jodee Kozlak, the executive vice president of human resources, framed it as a positive development for part-time employees of the company.


The Health Insurance Marketplaces provides new options for healthcare coverage that we believe our part-time members may prefer,” she wrote. “In fact, by offering them insurance, we could actually disqualify many of them from being eligible for newly available subsidies that could reduce their overall health insurance expense.”




The company’s new policy goes into effect on April 1, 2014. Consumers have until mid-March to sign up for ObamaCare to be eligible for coverage this year.


Target said it has a transition program in place to “minimize any disruption and reduce confusion” for those who will no longer be eligible for the company’s healthcare plan.


The company will provide a $500 cash payment to employees losing coverage, as well as access to a benefits consultant.


Target stressed the company would not be reducing hours for any employees.


As usual, it's for your own good...

And as if that was not enough, Target just announced:


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Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:41 | 4357260 Dr. Engali
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Target just asked for a big headache. Now the MSM will go full out bat shit crazy on them, and pummel them into submission with non-stop coverage about their lax security measures with customer's personal information.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:41 | 4357292 kaiserhoff
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It's for the children...

Hear that, Barry?  Money talks and bull shit walks.

Bet you didn't learn that in "community organizer school."

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:45 | 4357303 lakecity55
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fuck you with an aids-ridden dick, backdoor barry!

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:00 | 4357361 knukles
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It's working!


Cloward Piven is Working!

All Hail Full Speed Ahead Forward Yahoo Yippie Kiyay

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:07 | 4357367 lakecity55
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"...and the first award of our new Red Swastika Medal goes to Profs. Cloward and Piven. I could not have fundamentally changed America into a second-rate Zimbabwe without them! Come up and get your medals, Comrades!! Amerika may now be a vast wasteland, but I rule all of it! Soon I must go to the UN and spread more wealth around!"

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:20 | 4357430 GetZeeGold
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I feel Nobel Prize number 2 coming.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:47 | 4357513 lotsoffun
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this is the all-star ZH cast. guys, keep it up.


Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:58 | 4357545 lotsoffun
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it's amazing and how quickly (well, 85 fucking billion a month ain't chump change) - but the subsidizing - obama phones - the makers and the carriers, subsidy to keep corn and beef low (mcd) - the subsidy for snap cards to keep wages low for mcd, walmart - apparently JPM just cancelled on doing the issuance, but the fees they would got to print and distribute the snap cards (somebody will pick that up)?  and they dropped it because they got pissed about being find $20B on profits of how many billions??   - the level of .gov in everything back stopping, it is incredible.  this has nothing to do with capitalism.   did i miss the new .rental - this helps 'fake' a rise in home prices because blackstone and other snapped up crap homes in crap neighborhoods to rent out to section 8? they aren't going to rent to people that have jobs.  they rent to section 8.  people with jobs might not be able to pay at some point.  people on section 8 are certain to pay, via big bad bama.   another huge .gov backstop.  and none of them can lose.  bernacke printed and yellen will print more.


Thu, 01/23/2014 - 03:50 | 4358146 boogerbently
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obamacare causes MORE unemployment, and Target/WalMart gets the

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 09:24 | 4358404 kralizec
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Corp greed/hate the little guy/want to kill us all just wake up from a coma?  Socialism is all the rage!  And crony-capitalism has never been better!  Welcome to the new Amerika, comrade.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:39 | 4357672 lakecity55
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"Bo-Rack, you are up to no good. I'm going to spill the beans on you and your evil friends as soon as I get out of this hospital."
"I came out to Hawaii 'cause you're ill, Grandma, and I get this shit. You don't look good. Here, let me hold this pillow over your face."
"Hahahha, how's that for 'healthcare,' Granny? Hey, that gives me an idea...."

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 17:11 | 4360215 Zymurguy
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No, that's just a prized noble #2 you feel... there fixed it for ya'.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:51 | 4357322 kchrisc
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It's always for the children, that is until the children are gun toting age, and then it's off to kill or be killed.


"I think and can shoot, therefore I am."

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:44 | 4357306 fonzannoon
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Doc sorry to hear about the whole target thing. Come on by applebees later and we can order a beer from the robot that replaced me.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:47 | 4357311 TeamDepends
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"She" is kinda cute.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:51 | 4357327 kaiserhoff
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They sprung for the Japanese sex toy model?

Why am I always the last to know?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:04 | 4357373 LetThemEatRand
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New Applebee's ad campaign:  Our waitbots are "fully functional."

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:11 | 4357396 Ignatius
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This movie called ObamaCare started fast and just keeps getting better and better.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:13 | 4357401 kaiserhoff
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As in "anatomically correct?"

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:02 | 4357913 A Nanny Moose
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...and don't talk back.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:59 | 4357354 Occams_Chainsaw
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How much 'flare' does she wear?  I hope it's not the minimum.....

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:50 | 4357317 The Gooch
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John (Kohn) Kerry walks into Applebees.

Robotender says "Why the long face?"

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:03 | 4357369 knukles
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Kerry:  Do you have any Heinz Catsup?
Robo:  No, she's in detox

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:25 | 4357414 kaiserhoff
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Why is it always open season on rich old hags, who think money makes them sexy?

Never mind, I think I just fell ass backwards over the answer.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:40 | 4357971 Chuck Walla
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Money makes the ugly beautiful.
- Karl Marx


Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:49 | 4357520 quasimodo
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How about Robotender has a Gatling gun that misfires multiple times on the aforementioend patron.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:10 | 4357340 Dr. Engali
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It won't be long before we have robots pouring us a tall Brewtus. Of course by the time we get to that level of automation the elites won't need us any longer so we have that going for us.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:15 | 4357416 TeamDepends
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Watch out when the bots get hooked on barley juice.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:08 | 4357385 Skateboarder
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From what I understand, their food is all pre-prepared and just heated before serving. The bartenders at the Applebees down the street from where I lived were good guys. Of course, the only reason we went there was for the $4 22oz Sierras on tap after 9.

Applebots would be a good name change.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:43 | 4357503 Mr Pink
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That's true. I know that the sauce for their pasta comes in a plastic pouch. I know this because the last time I ate there the pouch was served to me in my pasta

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:07 | 4357576 Skateboarder
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My condolences - that's all bad. Would have been complete if they included the cardboard.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:06 | 4357577 TeamDepends
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Typical American.  There are children starving in Outer Mongolia and it's too much to ask that you slice your own pouch?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:31 | 4358864 Drunken Monkey
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You sure that's what it was? No ribs or ridges on it for increased dining pleasure?


Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:35 | 4357261 TeamDepends
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We propose to Americans that they simply stop shopping.  What?  You're already doing that?  Well, then carry on.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:36 | 4357262 LetThemEatRand
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Once again socialism for the corporations aka fascism.   Target gets to save health care costs because the employee gets subsidized (meaning taxpayer funded) health insurance instead.   Of course the MSM will spin this as socialism for the worker when it is the exact opposite.   The worker already had insurance.  Now he goes on the doll to save the corporation money.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:38 | 4357278 Dr. Engali
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Everybody who wasn't a blind supporter of Zero knew this was coming. Oh well fuck them.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:45 | 4357302 LetThemEatRand
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Same thing with the minimum wage debate.  Raising the minimum wage is now nothing more than an effort to maintain the model of large corporations being able to pay non-living wages to its workers who continue to need all sorts of government handouts to survive, while crushing small business that cannot afford the increase.  And the Blue Team can claim it is trying to help the little guy, when in fact it is making it increasingly impossible for the little guy to do anything but work for mega-corps.  

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:01 | 4357561 Woodhippie
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Well said.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:17 | 4357610 new game
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good astute dot connecting-now if the average merikan could find a dot and corelate.

hmmm, watson, think you are onto something...

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:56 | 4357729 Binko
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What's the alternative? Serious question. Most people would agree that we need a society where the average person who works full time is able to make enough money to live a decent life, maybe start a family or buy a house. All of society benefits when working people can form stable lives. But in our current system there are more job seekers than there are jobs and the discrepency is being used to drive wages down relentlessly. The majority of newly created jobs pay minimum wage or just over. 

And if your answer is that we should let the rich keep more of their money so that they create jobs, that has just not proven to be true. The wealthy now own a greater percentage of the world's wealth than ever before. And big corporations are sitting on mountains of cash. I don't see any of them building factories or expanding businesses or creating anything other than minimum wage debt-slave jobs. 

With ongoing globalization and automation labor now has zero leverage. Living wage jobs will continue to be demolished, automated or moved overseas and they will be partly replaced with minimum wage jobs and partly just eliminated. So if we don't raise the minimum wage so that it at least approaches a minimal living wage what exactly is the alternative?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:47 | 4357870 LetThemEatRand
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The answer is to end globalization.  We should not trade with countries that have slave ship economies.  Western policies encourage international companies to wage arbitrage.  We are racing to the bottom in the name of growth, but the growth is for the oligarchs.  The middle class is shrinking.  It is not our duty as a country to meet the Chinese people in a race to a lower tier.  There are more than a billion Chinese.  They can make their own way and stand up against their own corrupt government.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 03:59 | 4358153 boogerbently
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The "answer" is to accept responsibility for the choices we made earlier in life.

NOT blame our parents/schools/society/religion/science....


Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:07 | 4357924 PGR88
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The answer is the rule of law.  The answer is decentralized, local government.  The answer is to end the crony-capitalist Federal Reserve that bails out the rich while printing money to steal wages of workers.  The answer is to end Federal government corruption and picking those who will get rich by getting it out of most of what it does.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:59 | 4357999 snr-moment
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No you're absolutely right.  We should keep raising the minimum wage.  Everyone should be able to afford decent housing.  Except, oops, the gubmint won't let the price of housing come down because then boomers will have to rely more on their social security, which, oops, isn't there.

I guess the gubmint doesn't like free markets.

Then there's college tuition, which, apparently has risen 28% during the Obama years alone.  Because, oops, the government has taken over student loans.  Everyone should be able to get a decent education after all.  But if noone was willing to pay 58k per year, then.......

Oops, I guess the government doesn't like free markets.

Then there's the Stock Market which young people who are starting their wealth building years put money into in their 401Ks and IRAs at a ridiculous 16,000.  Because the alternative is to put it in the bank and make .125%.  But we can't let the stock market drop, because,

Oops, I guess the government doesn't like free markets

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:33 | 4357849 dark pools of soros
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wait you mean unions die away and regular folk that said they weren't needed anymore get bitchslapped every quarter and work for chump change?  I thought it was just the unions that killed profits??  you mean the companies are worthless even without the evil unions??  really??



Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:51 | 4357328 nmewn
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Where have all the ObamaBots gone?

Central planners have picked them off, everyone.


Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:05 | 4357380 surf0766
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Hopefully back the shitholes they crawled out of.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:29 | 4357452 GetZeeGold
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Any ACA trolls still around?


Howsa bout giving us a little shoutout!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:08 | 4357925 Crawdaddy
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No chance - they are over on the "lets do communism for realz" thread

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:19 | 4357425 NoDebt
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Where have they gone?  They've gone home.  Their job here is done.  No need to convince anyone of anything anymore.  It's all in the bag at this point.  There will be no reversal, no great awakening, no turning back.  Until it goes tits-up this is how it's going to be.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:13 | 4357596 new game
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tits up, a pulse, ye gad, stab it one more time(or should we fuck it first)...

slow death by fiat creation.

nice, adapt(opt out). find your way and try to ignore the b.s.

just watched a very interesting hour long show on the coywolf.

 eastern wolf meets western coyote.

incredible adapative ability to live amoungst humans.

maybe the take off is we(zh) be similar.

just wonder if they know how fucked up humans are?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:43 | 4357504 TeamDepends
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Long time gassing.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:01 | 4357332 lakecity55
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"Reggie, I just LOVE the smell of Communismnational socialism in the morning. Let's have gay sex and then drone some moar people."
"OK, lambchop. You're so sexy in these moods."

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:57 | 4357548 kridkrid
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How can anyone down vote what LTER just wrote. A perfect summary. Pure subsidy to corporations. Fuck the mouth breathing idiots who fell for the "socialized medicine" distraction.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:12 | 4357928 A Nanny Moose
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Target never paid healthcare costs in the first place. The employees, shareholders, and customers paid them.

Why is "he" on the doll? Is it a sex doll?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:35 | 4357263 BeerMe
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you're fired just in case

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:36 | 4357265 lead salad
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Owebamadon'tcare....the gift that keeps on giving.....

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:23 | 4357440 kaiserhoff
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like herpes, malaria, AIDS..., the stank of the Wookie.

OH, OH marketing opportunity.

Wookie Stank as an all purpose tazer, shark repellent, birth control device...,

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:36 | 4357268 LetThemEatRand
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The Target hackers already knew this was coming.   And of course the NSA (same thing)?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:38 | 4357277 stant
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maybe a name change is in order

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:52 | 4357329 The Gooch
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They are "Targets" for the upcoming WalMArt drones.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:40 | 4357280 Occams_Chainsaw
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I loves much MOAR can I get?



Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:39 | 4357283 max2205
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There no democracy in the corp world....period

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:40 | 4357286 BigGovNip
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Shocking !!!

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:28 | 4357454 GetZeeGold
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Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:40 | 4357288 QE49er
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“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” — Barack Obama, October 30, 2008

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:49 | 4357316 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Barrack Hussein Obama, the First African American President of the United States of America.

There was a time when this mattered to people. I remember a time when the MSM was so happy that this had happened. I do not understand why people fail to mention it any more.

I intend on mentioning everytime I make a reference to Barracky because we should never forget how historic it is and was.

IRS , Benghazi, Obamacare, you  can keep your doctor, on and on....

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:07 | 4357383 knukles
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Not true, Fonz, it's worse.
He's only half black.
There's white half in there trying to escape his own hatred and racism.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:18 | 4357426 kaiserhoff
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Is that why he sometimes looks pregnant, or just pissy and bitchy?

Naw, that might be sumpin' else;)

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:38 | 4357487 lotsoffun
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theyse call dat a 'jelly baby'.  ask reggie.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:13 | 4357405 kchrisc
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While I respect your spirit, I think that a critical look at the backgrounds of the last and current president is telling.

While I consider ALL pols and crats within the criminal carcass that is the US government, from the local dog-catcher on up, to be nothing more worthy of being flushed, I think that we should consider Bush “What’s My Line“ Jr. and Barrack “There’s My Line” Obama a little closer.

Out of all the "seasoned" and thoroughly corrupt pool of possible 'candidates', the elites chose these scumbags. Bush Jr. even had brothers that one could consider a much better choice, and yet they went with him. Obama's background is surrounded by so many red-flags that one would think that it's Mayday, but the elites selected him. The verdict seems to be that things are so criminal and corrupt that the bottom of the barrel needed to be scraped for the most morally reprehensible humans that the US political system could produce.

Or put another way, things are so totally corrupt that even Pelosi or Perry didn't get the 'nod.'

I am an American, not a US subject.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:42 | 4357297 lakecity55
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If you have to buy the phony healthcare "ObamaScam," you will have no money to spend at Target anyway (or anywhere else).

Watching 50 million people go bankrupt at once is not going to be pretty, but Bath House can congratulate himself on a job well done.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:43 | 4357298 NoWayJose
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Wanna bet some of those cuts are in IT?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:58 | 4357550 TexasAggie
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Why not, they didn't do any work.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:43 | 4357299 Abby Normal
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I am sitting in an emergency room waiting for my wife's treatment that her prior health insurance through Blue Cross Blue Shield paid for for 6 years.  The new obamacare BCBS policy does not cover the one medication that she needs to live and will only give it to her in a 'medical emergency' which means she's almost got to stop breathing and wait in an emergency room for her IVIGG treatment - and BCBS will still not cover it.  

How is taking a working health care policy away from someone and giving them one that covers things we'll never need like pregnacy or sex changes but denies you the one drug you need to survive an improvement??   We've found out that ALL new obama policies have denied people with MS IVIGG treatment.  

I really hope there's an 8th level of hell for all those people that wrote and supported this monstrosity.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:48 | 4357314 lakecity55
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It was done that way on purpose to kill off folks like your wife.

Fact is, these people are Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge redux.

The death toll should start climbing pretty soon...maybe then the light bulb will go on for USA serfs.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:01 | 4357360 _SILENCER
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Unfortunately, this really does seem to be the case. Saving the life of the one you love doesn't matter to these eugenics driven, inhuman monsters.  They want you ass deep in dope and faggotry, subverting all your natural programming, corrupting your red blooded American spirit and compassion for others.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:09 | 4357377 lakecity55
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Yes, death and destruction do seem to be their main themes.

Stephen King could not write anything more horror-show than this!

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:18 | 4357422 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Looks like Sarah Palin was wrong about ObamaCare creating death panels, there is no need, the insurance policies that ObamaCare peddles makes them redundant.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:52 | 4357326 Dr. Engali
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I hate to hear and read shit like this. It pisses me off, and it's all so unnecessary. Stay strong my prayers are with you and your wife.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:58 | 4357346 LetThemEatRand
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That sucks.  BCBS helped write the legislation that its crony politicians passed into law.  They make more money and cover less.  Blue Team declares victory for the masses, but everyone loses except the large insurers.    And whoever downvoted your post needs to meet Meat Loaf's ample breasts in a Fight Club session.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:32 | 4357467 Dr. Engali
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Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:38 | 4357675 tvdog
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everyone loses except the large insurers

Aetna is threatening to drop out of Obamacare because they're not making enough money:

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:57 | 4357350 kaiserhoff
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Sorry for your tribulation.  Telling the simple truth may be the best tool we have.

 And if you need any help building that 8th level, just come on by Mule Creek.  Line forms on the right, boys.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:23 | 4357437 Dingleberry
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Abby....maybe you have heard about medicare part D not covering immunosuppression drugs and antidepressants in 2015.

Possibly getting rid of antipsychotics, too.

Death panels don't sound like a conspiracy anymore, now does it?

AARP endorsed this idiocy.

They deserve everything (not) coming to them.

Unfortunately, the innocents such as yourselves are collateral damage.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:27 | 4357450 kchrisc
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Good morning. Welcome to the "land of fascism."

Now if we can all just begin the work of getting them to their well deserved hell a little sooner.


"In this camp there are only healthy people and dead people." Commander Koch, Buchenwald Concentration Camp

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:35 | 4357473 lakecity55
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Thanks to O'Care, we now have Buchenwald without the barbed wire!

You can now die from lack of medical care in your own home!


Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:15 | 4357602 WillyGroper
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Abby, Dr Samuel Milham has linked MS to vitamin D deficiency. 

I posted another book Minerals for the Genetic Code by Charles Walters, when you last posted what those bastards have done by denying her.  Pages 62-3 address MS & vite D, 146-7 addresses boron which activates D, 180-1 magnesium

It's worth a shot and it could save her. I don't think it could hurt. 

Miffed-could expand on this subject in depth I'm sure. 

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:54 | 4357315 roadhazard
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Affordable health care is a better deal because you take your insurance anywhere you go. Screw that COBRA shit. 

And the jobs Target is cutting has nothing to do with Obama Care... but it does look flammable, huh.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:18 | 4357402 LetThemEatRand
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The "take it with you" thing is a bait and switch.  They sold it by including provisions that everyone can agree are superior to the old system, most notably the elimination of preexisting condition exclusion.  But as an overall package it is a turd with a creamy filling designed solely to be a give a way to large insurance companies who cover less and make more.     Some people will benefit from it (most notably those who had no coverage at all and who are poor).  The wealthy don't really care because they can afford what it doesn't cover.  As usual, it's the middle class that will be the loser.  Meaning most of us.  Fascism is all about shrinking the middle class and making us dependent on .gov, while enriching those at the top.  This is a step in that direction.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:34 | 4357449 Dr. Engali
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How is that chocolate kool-aid tasting? Say hello to Reggie once you get your tongue out of Zero's ass.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:54 | 4357337 Jack Burton
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The best health care system in the world has just gotten better. Taking the most effective and affordable treatments to patients, and the most cost effective and competitive Health Insurance coverage where prices are driven down by white hot comptetition, we can now add Obama Care. This health reform add a cherry on top the world's proven best health care at the world's best prices. The aim of Obama is to allow all Americans to get into private health insurance where the worry of illeness or accident can now be forgotten. Your health needs will be met, and you premiums are driven down to affordable levels by competition. Your treatments are also the world's best and, due to hospitals and doctors in competition , they come at all time record affordale prices. I live right on the Canadian border, and I pity my northen neighbors when they must rot in socialized medicine, where most die without ever getting the needed life saving treatments.

Obama turned to the private sector health insurers for Obama Care's provisions, this allowed the best free market minds to deliver on the promise of inurance for all. The result is more and better and more affordable health care for all. I anticipate my northen neighbors to drive south in droves to get in on AMerican health care. And why not? They know a good thing when they see it, and welcome the chance to escape from their 3rd world witch doctors that Canada expects it's people to be treated by, after a suitable waiting period.

Bush, Obama, Nixon, Clinton, Hillary, McCain, we can thank them and many other public servants for their hard work on our behalfs. COngress and presidents have given their all for us. Show some fucking repsect next time your congressman asks for money!

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:27 | 4357448 LetThemEatRand
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Irony inside sarcasm, and so much truth buried within for those fed up with the MSM take, be it Red or Blue Team based.  +1.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:54 | 4357338 grunk
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You want fries with that?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:52 | 4357531 Mr Pink
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Hey, did you ever eat at Target?!


Me neither

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:57 | 4357348 I Write Code
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We're from the goverment and we're here to help.

So drop dead already.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:57 | 4357352 Meat Hammer
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In other words: Most of you dumbfucks voted for it, so go reap what you sowed.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:24 | 4357443 Occams_Chainsaw
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Honestly....they voted for it and now want yet another bailout since they don't want their 'stuff' to be diminished.  They will reap and they will demand MOAR.  It's a lost cause dude.....

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:58 | 4357353 surf0766
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They didn't get dropped. They are just going through a transition..

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 20:58 | 4357355 Yes We Can. But...
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I don't really get Target.  Their prices aren't great, and they rarely seem to have what I need.  But it seems like chics dig the place, and their margins are strong, so maybe that is their magic formula.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:09 | 4357388 Seasmoke
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Me neither. I get WalMart. But Target. I just don't get.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:43 | 4357502 Dingleberry
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When I get home from Target, I don't feel like I need to shower.

Can't say the same for Wally World.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:04 | 4357568 quasimodo
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Funny you mention that. Mrs. said something similiar to that just last week. One thing I have noticed is the patrons. I seldom see an overweight, morbidly obese blob scurrying about, t-boning folks on a hover-round when at a Target. I don't think they have quite the selection of "snacks" that wmart does, nor groceries. The stuff I do see there seems to be aimed a tad more at the "heathly" side of things when compared with wmart. 

The best thing about Target? No ANNOYING as fuck "welcome" person. Without FAIL it's always someone who can hardly stand or walk(not that I hold this against them)

Don't fucking ask me every damn time "did you find what you were looking for?" The one time I was in a pissy mood and my reply? "No I didn't so instead I bought this shit that I don't need"  I wish I could have had the look at her face framed.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:44 | 4357683 tvdog
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Last time I went to Target, they told me Walmart was the next street over ...

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:10 | 4357779 Binko
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Walmart is like visiting the 3rd world. Narrow aisles made narrower by endless mid-aisle displays. Butt ugliness everywhere you look, great crowds of land-whales, mouth-breathers and their hyperactive spawn. 

Meanwhile Target, while having less selection and slightly higher prices, is actually a pleasant place to visit, clean, attractive and spacious. 

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:26 | 4357446 Papasmurf
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Their security breach has lost me as a customer, and I wasn't even effected by it.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:04 | 4357368 QE49er
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Why do I like the sound of Target and Obama together?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:04 | 4357372 notadouche
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The "Anti Wal Mart" is not so different after all.  Imagine that.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:06 | 4357384 Seasmoke
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Somewhere, there is a Target for Obama.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:09 | 4357394 gwar5
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Nightmare that is Obamacare is just starting. Website that doesn't work is nothing compared to what is going to happen.


Next year, corporations will face the mandate again and will be forced into dumping full time workers and will only use part time workers. The part time workers will lose their private insurance and the only option, Obamacare, will be prohibitively expensive on part time salaries.

The insurance companies, already underwater in the actuaries, will have no choice but to quit. Nothing willl be able to fix a mess that is this massive and many people are going to die in the chaos. 

.......The only thing that could make this nightmare worse is to suddenly add 15 million indigent illegal aliens onto the Obamacare rolls! 


Obama: "I know what I'm doing, I'm a socialist."




Thu, 01/23/2014 - 01:33 | 4358030 LocalBoy
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actuaries........what do the actuaries say about insuring 100% risk ?

Good Grief !

How does one insure against catching a cold or getting a physical checkup ?  

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:12 | 4357399 Save_America1st
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fitting that they chose April Fool's Day...if this whole fucking thing wasn't such a tragedy it actually would be a joke. 

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:16 | 4357419 abducens
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Most of the Target employees will probably qualify for free insurance or $50 a month premiums. Eventually Obamacare will need some QE type of help.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:20 | 4357432 thtmnbhndthecrtn
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I'm a surgeon. Had our first Obamacare patient scheduled today. Required a one-hour telephone circle jerk between the state exchange medical director, me, our office manager, and billing people, as to whether we would be paid for the visit. A "special, one-time pre-authorization" was made at our standard Medicaid (break dead-even on overhead) rates. It was determined the exchange will "have a moritorium" on more patients until some contractual language could be arranged for subsequent visits, or we could continue to "work this out on a patient-by-patient basis." (I.e., more unending bureaucratic phone boondoggle with my $18/hr employees.)

The guy didn't show up. No call, no nothin'.

We will have to go through this crap again next time, I'm sure, when he decides to saunter in.

If he needs a CT scan, or God-forbid surgery, we're fucked.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:35 | 4357471 kchrisc
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"You can keep your insurance, until you need to use it."


"I am building an ICD9E978 device in my backyard."


Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:37 | 4357480 thtmnbhndthecrtn
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can you fax me the plans?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:02 | 4357753 object_orient
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Do your $18/hr employees complain about their $300/hr surgeon?

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:16 | 4357800 thtmnbhndthecrtn
thtmnbhndthecrtn's picture, because I have helped them understand that after he pays the 60% overhead that's their pay, retirement, and insurance, and his own insurance, building mortgage, malpractice, and corporation expenses, then forks over 50% for taxes, he only a $60 dollar an hour surgeon. I frequently do 1 hour operations, with their attendant risk and reponsibilty, a net $38 in today's world. I am not your father's surgeon. You need to wake up.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:44 | 4357979 Yes We Can. But...
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'Waking up' does not appear on the menu viewed by the object-orients of the world

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:44 | 4357949 Dr. Engali
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What fucking business is it of yours how much he makes? He did the work and went to medical school.he invested years of his life and developed the skills he needs to become a surgeon. If he is making $300 bucks an hour while saving lives more power to him. He sure didn't go through all that effort to work at McFilthys. Besides if it weren't for him there wouldn't be any employees making $18.00 an hour..

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 01:22 | 4358018 LocalBoy
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"Besides if it weren't for him there wouldn't be any employees making $18.00 an hour.."

Correct me if I am wrong but the majority of this 18$ labor is required by the third party, not the doctor or patient. It is not healthcare, it is conforming to third party. 

My wife had a gall bladder removed.  Paid cash to the surgeon three days before.....just how the hell does one negotiate price if its none of his business what the price is ? 

All those JOBS created is a net drain on the system, hardly a plus.


Thu, 01/23/2014 - 01:06 | 4358004 LocalBoy
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Are all those people you refer to as 18$ providing healthcare ?

Its always boggled my mind why a vast majority of "healthcare" cost were not going to doctors and nurses.  

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:32 | 4357442 One And Only
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One step closer to the Marxist utopia.

Every private sector job will be replaced by a more efficient governent job.

Good shit. Smoke one. Can't wait till everyone is equal.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:44 | 4357505 kchrisc
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I do believe that we are closer to that fascist utopia that the Nazis preached.


"We're not all equal until mine is MUCH bigger and I have a QE 'printing' machine."

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 01:25 | 4358023 LocalBoy
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Its not socialism....Corporate control of central government is not socialism, nor is it free market enterprise. It is fascism......Keep looking left and your gonna get blind sided.......

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:30 | 4357460 Papasmurf
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You have to pass the bill to find out what's inside.

Now that we see what's inside, we know that corporate America wrote it in cahoots with the insurance industry. 

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 21:48 | 4357516 ncdirtdigger
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I loves me some govco cheese

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:08 | 4357582 dexter_morgan
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I must say that I have never seen this shit at Target......


Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:15 | 4357936 the0ther
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Target bees racist and classist. They only put stores where there are many yuppies and hipsters.

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 22:54 | 4357716 Rising Sun
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Fuck you Barry you fucking failure!!! You fucking pawn!!!!!


Spend too much time sucking Soros cock Barry and this is what you get!!!!

Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:09 | 4357777 Spungo
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The solution is two tier healthcare like Australia has. There's public healthcare that covers everyone no matter what, including billionaires. There is also a private for-profit system in addition to that so you can pay cash if you want something done immediately. 

Dumping healthcare on employers makes the US less competitive. Other countries have the people pay for healthcare through taxes. The US system is also fucked because it's based on income. People with no job get free shit but people who work need to pay out of pocket. It makes absolutely no sense.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:13 | 4357931 the0ther
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US government already pays for 76 cents of every dollar spent in the country on healthcare. Shit has been socialized even before Obamacare. Just nothing for you if you're single white and of working age.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:54 | 4357990 LocalBoy
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"Dumping healthcare on employers makes the US less competitive."

So true - corporate managed care is the problem. This is not and has not been government control of medicine. It is corporate Wall Street control of medicine. 

Consider the simple madness of local worker going to local doctor to get routine medical service and having several people in the relationship between himself and the doctor, all hidden behind the curtain. None of them administering real healthcare, only the doctor, nurse and pharmacist is doing that. Typical Wall Street corporate inefficiency that plaques our economy.

Managed care is not insurance and it is not healthcare, it is a price fixing, market allocation scheme.

What we need is free market alternatives 


Wed, 01/22/2014 - 23:18 | 4357812 ejhickey
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the $500 offer to target employees is less than half of their year premiums for one year of coverage under Bronze plan, which is 60/40 coverage.  this is a real step backwards for those unlucky Target employees

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 00:31 | 4357956 Fix It Again Timmy
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Why is it every day feels like I'm taking a crazy pill?.........

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 10:03 | 4358545 Hedgetard55
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Soon death will be looked upon as a blessing.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 17:11 | 4360220 Zymurguy
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Enter a new "Sustainable Employment Administration"

Their first order of business will be to regulate how often any corporation can reduce employees.

Who is John Galt?

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