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There are 2.3 million people living behind bars in the United States and the prison system cost the federal government $55 billion every year. Between 1990 and 2010, the number of privately operated prisons in the US increased 1600%... it seems crime does pay, but for whom is the question?

 

Private Prison Industry

Source: Online-Paralegal-Degree.org

 


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Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:21 | Link to Comment VD
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pig planet

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:30 | Link to Comment wee-weed up
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Why isn't Corzine in one?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:30 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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"Why isn't Corzine in one?"  Or a host of Judges in jail.

Just saw on the evening news that some woman who was pepper-sprayed in the face during the Occupy Portland movement -- with the moment caught in an iconic pic by the Oregonian -- had  not only LOST her lawsuit against the City of Portland, but -- get this! -- she now has to pay the City its legal fees.

The US is sooooo fucked up.  The next time I hear some asshole going on about how fucking "great" this country is, I wanna kick them in the crotch and whack them on the head. 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 00:53 | Link to Comment MontgomeryScott
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Well, Captain, I saw the headline and thought of Metallica, almost immediately. (EDIT: The song entitled 'Damage Incorporated')

Of course, this song (and album) is both an historical document, and a predictive programming experiment, as it was released in late summer of 1988.

REFERENCE:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...And_Justice_for_All_%28album%29

So, Captain, I saw your comment, and decided to post the song that was the title, in consideration of your 'shock and awe'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGFp7saTQEU

'And Justice For All'.

Halls of justice, painted green
Money talking
Power wolves beset your door
Hear them stalking

Soon you'll please their appetite
They devour
Hammer of justice crushes you
Overpower

The ultimate in vanity
Exploiting their supremacy
I can't believe the things you say
I can't believe, I can't believe the price you pay

Nothing can save you
Justice is lost
Justice is raped
Justice is gone

Pulling your strings
Justice is done

Seeking no truth
Winning is all
Find it so grim
So true, so real

Apathy their stepping stone
So unfeeling
Hidden deep animosity
So deceiving

Through your eyes their light burns
Hoping to find
Inquisition sinking you
With prying minds

The ultimate in vanity
Exploiting their supremacy
I can't believe the things you say
I can't believe, I can't believe the price you pay

Nothing can save you
Justice is lost
Justice is raped
Justice is gone

Pulling your strings
Justice is done

Seeking no truth
Winning is all
Find it so grim
So true, so real

Lady justice has been raped
Truth assassin
Rolls of red tape seal your lips
Now you're done in

Their money tips her scales again
Make your deal
Just what is truth? I cannot tell
Cannot feel

The ultimate in vanity
Exploiting their supremacy
I can't believe the things you say
I can't believe, I can't believe the price we pay

Nothing can save us
Justice is lost
Justice is raped
Justice is gone

Pulling your strings
Justice is done

Seeking no truth
Winning is all
Find it so grim
So true, so real

Seeking no truth
Winning is all
Find it so grim
So true, so real

 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 01:20 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Thank you, Scotty.  I had the privilege of working with the finest damn engineer in Starfleet.

I know those Transporters and Warp Drive will be working when TSHTF.  ;-)

p.s. I'd invest in the company that'll make Transparent Aluminum when it comes out.  Just give me a heads up.  :-)

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:31 | Link to Comment zaphod
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How the hell does it cost $170K/year to house an inmate???

I live on around a quarter of that, and that includes going out from time to time.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:39 | Link to Comment Occams_Chainsaw
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There are like 20 middle men taking their share of the money.  It really costs about 9 bucks but with the red tape it ramps up to 170k.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:26 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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Outsource.  I'll bet we could pay Mexico to house our prisoners.  They'd probably do it for $5K/yr and make 50% profit.  Recidivism would be reduced to nothing and they'd come back as model citizens. 

 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 04:58 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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Perhaps re-evaluating our "cruel and unusual punishment" paradigm could save some money.

Sex change operations????

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 08:42 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Less prisons, more ovens?  I mean, whattaya want?  Non-violent offenders, there's got to be a better way...except for theives, theives from pickpockets to Corzine should be extinguished, as should the most violent.  As it is we have a muddled approach of too soft on the worst and too hard on the harmless.  This will not get fixed anytime soon.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:49 | Link to Comment Son of Loki
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"There are 2.3 million people living behind bars in the United States...."

That's about 1/3 of the number who belong there:

 

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/11/14/innocent-people-sucker-punched-vid...

Should be prosecuted as "attempted murder" with minimum 5 years, no chance of parole. Vile little SOBs.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:55 | Link to Comment Overfed
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They shouldn't be in prison. They should receive a bullet.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:04 | Link to Comment walküre
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What a waste of a perfectly good bullet. No my friend, I have experience with thugs like that. They make exellent hard laborers in extremely harsh conditions where most men wouldn't last a day. There is plenty work for these guys and they can prove to be worth something more than just a movator for a stolen Iphone.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 09:36 | Link to Comment Ar-Pharazôn
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i cannot agree more with you.

 

especially for highly dangerous works.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:39 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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Walkure: Fukushima ???

Couldn't we just call their execution "Retroactive Abortion"??

I hate the number "2.3 Million" being thrown around like the SIZE of the number implies something is wrong with our jailing reasoning.

These people are just part and evidence of the failure of the entitlement/something for nothing/nanny state meme.

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:30 | Link to Comment Trucker Glock
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Animal Planet is more than a cable channel.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 07:54 | Link to Comment turnoffthewater
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Well maybe we should include Bill C and Hitlary. Rivers run deep. Cheers and thanks for the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrT-FJAgc0I

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:41 | Link to Comment PacOps
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Guard/staff salaries, perks and pensions.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:34 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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I have some buddy's about 30 years old, fresh out of 2 tours in IRAQ, both got jobs at CLUB-FED.

$80k/year, and gold plated pension, and 100% medical, incredible floating hours,... like firemen 1 day on 3 days off, ..

Not bad for high-school dropouts,...

These guys just got the jobs, ... I can't imagine what the higher up's make,... and this is just FEDERAL gubmint 'prison'.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:10 | Link to Comment BLOTTO
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How is their piece of mind?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 01:10 | Link to Comment MontgomeryScott
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So, your 'buddies';

Do you have adequate defence against such when they come knocking?

A little Uncle Ted, from '78, to refresh your survival instincts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LESOhoSEWiI

With freinds like yours, who needs enemies?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:46 | Link to Comment Uber Vandal
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Probably the same way a 25 cent bandage costs $1000 when applied at a hospital.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:50 | Link to Comment Pool Shark
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Due to the "Prisoner's Bill of Rights." They have to be provided with cable TV, exercise equipment, libraries, medical care, sex-change operations, etc.

Here in the People's Republic of California, we're experimenting with letting all the "Non-Violent, Non-Sex" offenders out of prison. (Governor MoonBeam claims they're not being let out; they're just being sent to County Jails to be housed; along with only about half the money needed to house them. It's a win-win for MoonBeam; he reduces Prison overcrowding, and cuts the budget to boot!)

The problem is that since this went into effect (October, 2011) crime has exploded. The crooks have discovered that you can't go to prison for dealing drugs, stealing cars, or commercial burglaries. In fact; even when caught and prosecuted, the typical felon does about 3 weeks local custody time on what used to be a 3-year prison commitment.

If you live in California, lock all your doors and make sure your insurance is paid-up...

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:46 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Sounds like the perfect substitute for a failed 401k plan.

Long crime for the 60-70 crowd.

Note to self:  In case the Starfleet career doesn't pan out and the health care costs go through the Enterprise roof, must commit a series of white-collar crimes, to ensure a nice retirement at a low-security Club Fed.

/sarc

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:47 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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Soylent Green

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:35 | Link to Comment Yenbot
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Bones:

"Go watch the movie Falling Down, Jim. And pay my bloody bill!"

If you like your future, you can...

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 00:08 | Link to Comment Double.Eagle.Gold
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Try again--

 

white-collar crimes get you a bonus, certainly NOT prision time.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:22 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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Exactly, pig planet indeed and they will add alot more trust me.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:24 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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Perverse incentives yield perverse results.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:25 | Link to Comment eurogold
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When weed becomes legal everywhere, they will go bust

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:57 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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Yes and no.

They will just substitute political prisoners for prohibition ones. But then anyone that knows what government really is might just call prohibition prisoners political prisoners.

 

"We now live in a country where it is 'illegal' to use one’s own money."

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:27 | Link to Comment Gromit
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The greatest obstacle to relaxing laws on marijuana is the Prison Industrial Complex (which includes prison guard Unions front and center).

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:32 | Link to Comment eurogold
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Spot on Gromit ! Don't forget the whole police, justice system Infrustructure

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:40 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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"...which includes prison guard Unions..."

Agree, but that's not a union, that's gang behavior.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:32 | Link to Comment So Close
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The prison and law industry hates the legalization of drugs.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:37 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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They don't want their (financial) dependance threatened by lack of pseudo-crime.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:38 | Link to Comment Spanky
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Just one of the many "benefits" of privatization...

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:48 | Link to Comment arby63
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If my math serves me correctly, Yellen  can fund nearly 2 prisons per month! Such a deal.

 

My how times have changed.

 

We truly are doomed. I can only guarantee one thing: I won't go easy.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:39 | Link to Comment nightshiftsucks
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It sucks watching  cops and seeing the misery from drugs and then knowing that even if they get thrown in prison it won't make a difference.

 On another note the fucked week continues,turned wrong and broke both bones in my lower leg,surgery next week but at least the pain killers are legal.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:50 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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There is more drugs, contraband, and rape, and sodomy in the USA prison system than on the street.

The US prison system is the most EVIL on earth, almost all country's on earth,, let wives fuck their incarcerated husband weekly so as to not dirve him insane and become a MAN-RAPIST,... but that is exactly what the USA does by design,

It all goes back to lawyers, judges and SKULL&BONES (TEAM-BUSH), the USA has always been ran by SODOMISTS, and they have always ran the prison system.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:49 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Again easy to solve:  Cut off their dicks, but leave the balls.  >:-]

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:16 | Link to Comment Ness.
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As Bob Barker would say, "Help control the thug population and remember to have your pets spayed or neutered."

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:24 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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The lawyers/judges should have their tongues removed, and teeth.

Their penis shall remain, they should all be imprisoned in their privatized prison's, where they can love each other in all orfices into perpetuity.

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Make no mistake that the real CRIMINALS in the USA are the lawyers and judges running the CRIMINAL SYSTEM.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:02 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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Oh man, sorry about the leg.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:40 | Link to Comment Nobody For President
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oh, ow, shit. That's gotta hurt.

The rehab will be lengthy and tedious, and the wheelchair moreso.

You will probably get a fuck of a lot more time to cruise ZH. however, which is a mixed blessing...

Heal well.

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:39 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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PENAL COLONY to PENAL COLONY in 200 years

Prior to the "American Revolution" the USA was the worlds "PRISON COLONY"

Post revolution the world sent their worst habitual criminals to Austraila.

Today the USA has reverted to a PENAL-COLONY, perhaps as little as 200 years from prison colony to prison colony.

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After the Revolution the USA brought in many more slaves to the work, later the slaves were 'freed' and everyone was made a 'wage-slave', today there is not work, so everybody becomes a convict.

Back in the day there were plantation owners today they're bankers and corporations.

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We have heard it before but some of the best jobs in the USA for guys coming back form 8 years of killing in IRAQ.. is getting a job at a FEDERAL prison.

The USA can pull money out its ass forever, and keeping anyone that 'speaks up' in prison forever is for now the preferable way to control the public.

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In time the  USA will be sold off, and a foriegn outfit will buy all of the PRISON infrastructure, and once again the world will send the convicts to the USA.

PENAL COLONY to PENAL COLONY in 200 years

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:52 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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You carry on that posting. Didn't read before posting. Good job.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:56 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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Prior to the "American Revolution" the USA was the worlds "PRISON COLONY"

Source Please...

During the initial landing at Plymouth, only 102 Puritans landed, of those only 57 survived the winter. Then King James had outlawed puritanism thereby making the original landing party a bunch of outlaws.

I would suggest reading Bradford's diaries...

DaddyO

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:18 | Link to Comment OC Sure
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William Bradford? The guy who transformed Thanksgiving from communism to capitalism and thus saved his settler's lives?

YESssss!

******

Agree that S101 seems to be missing a huge conceptual chunk of what 1776 was all about.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:25 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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The USA is a nation of criminals who stole the USA from the UK, who stole it from the INJUNS.

Once the USA criminals took over they went after all the INJUNS and slaughtered them,... millions. The USA has always been a nation of homocide, the #1 on earth by DNA.

Prior to the ameican Revolution UK sent criminals to the USA,

Post revolution UK sent the criminals to AUSTRALIA.

UK ruled the world in those days, so they collected criminals all over the world and sent them to the USA.

After the revolution the UK couldn't send 'criminals' to the USA, as they no longer OWNED the USA

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Post Revolution, the USA imported slaves, but the settlers were mostly convict blood, same as Austrailia.

This  is why today the USA has the most METH-HEAD psychopaths on earth, ... funny that the the USA houses blacks by majority, but in reality, its the whites that should be in prison.

 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 01:07 | Link to Comment monad
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Everything you've been taught is a lie. Everything. Goodnight.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:35 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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FUCK 1776, that is for nursery school children.

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British used colonial North America (USA) as a penal colony through a system of indentured servitude. Merchants would transport the convicts and auctioned them off to (for example) plantation owners upon arrival in the colonies. It is estimated that some 50,000 British convicts were sent to colonial America, representing perhaps one-quarter of all British emigrants during the 18th century. The State of Georgia for example was first founded by James Edward Oglethorpe by using penal prisoners taken largely from debtor's prison, creating a "Debtor's Colony". However, as this largely failed, though the idea that the state began as a penal has stayed both in popular history, and local lore.[1] The British also would often ship Irish and Scots to the Americas whenever rebellions took place in Ireland or Scotland, and they would be treated similar to the convicts, except that this also included women and children.

When that avenue closed in the 1780s after the American Revolution,

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:38 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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Your ignorance is exceeded only by your arrogance...

DaddyO

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:42 | Link to Comment Hubbs
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Crime does pay. Bankers first. Then prison corporatocracry.

 

Hmm, where I have I heard this before?  Military corporatocracy. Medical corporatocracy

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:42 | Link to Comment are we there yet
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Victorias's secret nighties are made in prisons? That is even less arousing than Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pilosi in the same room.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:20 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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Hillary Clinton, YEllen

Catherine the Great, ...

All these women have in common is they are LESBIANS that hate men,

Also they had a fancy for mating with horses and bears, ...

If you bother to read up the 'catherine the great' fan clubs and there are 1,000's on the internet, you will see that the likes of pelosi, feinstein, hillary, yellen, they all advocate beastiality over human-males.

These are the same women ruling this country.

It's funnier than hell when you think about it, the PTB that actually run the USA, don't give a fuck what the BITCHES from hell do to the population, and what better way to control the controllers than to put sociopaths in POWER.

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My point is its NOT just the MALE-PRISON's in the USA that are 100% designed to 'punish' with sodomy, but the FEMALE-PRISON's are designed to do the same.

Hitler did the same, read the book "rise of the 3rd reich' - Shirer, there is whole chapter about how HITLER used german shepherds to rape men&women to control the prison population, not unlike RUMSFELD in IRAQ abu-ghraib

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:44 | Link to Comment walküre
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Check the portfolios of judges and attorneys.

Yes, I'm going there!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:44 | Link to Comment are we there yet
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Now we know why bankers do not go to prison. They own the prisons.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:43 | Link to Comment Debt Slave
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Umm, isn't this what Stalin did? Just sayin...

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:46 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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FUCK the GOD DAMN JUDGES ... The LAWYERS ... The COPS

"The essence of government is beating, killing and imprisoning" - Von Mises

Lawyers that are lazy become 'judges', lawyers can BK a family trying to keep their loved ones out of prison, ... its a major scam, worse than MEDICAL racket.

Almost all cases in court are quid-pro-quo, meaning lawyers/judges make a deal, how many days the trial to be 'heard' and outcome is always pre-ordained.

The LAWYERS, ... 99% of USA politicians at FED level are LAWYERS, the LAWYERS are judges, and they're are all part of the RACKET.

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Want to FIX America "TAR&FEATHER all the lawyers and toss them in a shark-infested ocean, if they drown they weren't an asshole, if they don't drown they're an asshole"

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:49 | Link to Comment OC Sure
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Please exclude honest constitutional lawyers and lawyers that adhere to objective law from your advice. Thanks.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:01 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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Have you actually read the writings of OBAMA and his friends who are constitutional lawyers?

I have... you can find the stuff its floating around

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Sure Obama is an expert in the Constitution, but he has written a NEW one, ... he see's the current as flawed, not to bore all here, but maybe if TYLER had some ball's it would post OBAMA's Constitution here on ZH.

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Obama's Ambassador to the UN, a beautiful Irish woman, is married to a Zionist guy from chicago law school and him and Obama were bath house buddy's with Rev Wright, and they all together re-wrote the constitution, if you haven't read it, you should.

All these players belong to the same all-men fuck club. BUSH, Quayle, Kerry, Obama, ...

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:09 | Link to Comment OC Sure
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I know what you mean.  That is why I chose precisely the adjective Honest.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:58 | Link to Comment walküre
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Giving the finger is the best and cheapest defense

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:47 | Link to Comment OC Sure
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Crime pays well if you can corner the market on counterfeiting.

What greater place for criminals to hide than in plain sight?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:55 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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The USA is a KLEPTOCRACY

A government ran by COMMON CRIMINALS

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Let's not forget the drug laws were engineered by the corporation in the 1920's MONSANTO didn't want HEMP, and BIG-PHARMA didn't want granny giving the family opium or cocaine, for 1,000's of years in all cultures granny took care of the family when sick,

In the 1920's the USA Corporations took away granny's right to HEAL the family the rest is history.

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I would argue that most of the people who ROT in prison are there for political reasons. Note that most of the blacks by population are in prison, largely for political reasons.

When I was a KID there was "CURFEW" for blacks, they weren't allowed out at night, ... now they just lock them up. It's all poltical.

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:20 | Link to Comment OC Sure
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But by what means does the cleptomania endure?

Stop the money printing, the counterfeiting, and you shoot an arrow through the mouth and into the brain of the Sea Monster.

Everything else is irrelevant and just wrestling tenacles.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:44 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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The USA is a KLEPTOCRACY a government ran by common criminals

Going back to the 1600's, 400 years of crime long before the FED

The USA will eventually DIE, and its dying now, up until the 1950's the USA was one of the richest, newest nations on earth, in the past 50 years all was looted, today it will revert to a penal colony.

My guess is that most convicts will die of HIV, given that the entire system was always built on SODOMY.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:46 | Link to Comment The Gooch
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"His judgement cometh and that right soon"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaiBVqIgMIU

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:46 | Link to Comment Goldilocks
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Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_C...

The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. It was passed by the Senate on April 8, 1864, by the House on January 31, 1865, and adopted on December 6, 1865. On December 18, 1865, Secretary of State William H. Seward proclaimed it to have been adopted. It was the first of the three Reconstruction Amendments adopted following the American Civil War.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:14 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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In 1865 they abolished 'slavery' and designated all USA citizens as criminals.

Enough Said "United Slavery Amgalmated"

All wage-slaves are criminals waiting to be imprisoned.

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Hillary-2016 will designate all red-neck rural/urban white males as 'domestic terrorists'

DHS/FEMA backed by the meanest BULL-DIKES in the USA will begin a new crusade and reclaim 'land' throughout the west.

Remember that TODAY the "INJUN"is the red-neck, and the 'SETTLER", is the Hillary Voting Jewish right-wing Lesbian ( pelosi, feinstein ), ... and there are 100's of 1,000's.

Note you are all Palestinians in the USA, and ZIONISM is only about STEALING REAL ESTATE from natives.

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:48 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Australian penal colony of Botany Bay has now shifted to the United States of America.

http://www.bbc.com/travel/blog/20120126-travelwise-australias-penal-colony-roots

 

Lap it up progressives, you’ll be the first to enter the program.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:38 | Link to Comment MeBizarro
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Whatever dope. 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:49 | Link to Comment surf0766
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We would have less in jail if they were forced to server all their time but we give them 8,15,100 chances and 50% sentences. They don't need TV, pool tables. The need a rake and shove and broom.

It is just another bailout.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:46 | Link to Comment MeBizarro
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Yeah because that would reduce crime.  Yet another dope who thinks that the 'get tough on crime' with draconian sentences and long prison sentences work for everyone really works. 

The death penalty has had no statistically significant influence on reducing murder rates or felony rates.  Book is out on mandatory sentencing minimums for violent felonies but it likely has lead to reduced crime rates.   

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:50 | Link to Comment shutdown
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It was so much safer in America back when fewer people were imprisoned. Building more jails only offers a perfectly rational incentive to commit crimes.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:07 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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PRISON is designed to take a normal man, and turn him into a MONSTER, then he his released and commits even worse crimes and then a TON of money is spent on LAWYERS.

Anyone who has studied this BUSINESS knows that COURTS/LAWYERS, have engineered the US Criminal System to MAXIMIZE the number of criminals, that's why they keep POT smokers in prison, but put baby rapers back on the street.

I really hate to be cynically, and some here may say I'm going over, but I have been around this shit my whole life, and have heard too many first hand story's about the PEN, and lately its been by MIL guys coming out of service getting JOBS in these FED-PENS, and there story's are amazing.

Essentially to hear them tell the BLACK & MEX Gangs are running the prisons, the BLACK/MEX mafia are paying off the judges and lawyers and politicians at the TOP, to control the inside of the prison. The way the prisoners climb the ladder inside is by hitting or killing a guard, that makes you a 'made man', then you get transferred and you rise in power.

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Remember what I always say here, is that the USA is going to return to FULL PENAL COLONY, and CAMP-FEMA will be Worse than these cozy public/private prisons.

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:38 | Link to Comment Yenbot
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...and have heard too many first hand story's about the PEN

Get back to us when you've had a first-hand EXPERIENCE, K Anderson?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:29 | Link to Comment the0ther
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Anderson Cooper trolls ZH? That little Vanderbilt sissy.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:49 | Link to Comment Slave
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I don't know. But there sure are waaaaaaaaaaaay too many violent (ex)felons on the streets. Why the fuck aren't they still locked up or put down?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:59 | Link to Comment walküre
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nice avatar. your own creation?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 20:58 | Link to Comment nightshiftsucks
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Why haven't the poppy fields in Afghanistan been destroyed,fucking corrupt US govt.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:16 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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That's easy: 1. Too profitable for Al-CIA-duh, and 2. the endless war prevents the Taliban from allowing an Iran-China pipeline. And 3. the MIC doesn't mind either... good for repeat orders.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:03 | Link to Comment q99x2
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We need more attorneys for all the new laws and more nurses to handle the quagmire of Obamacare.

China will provide the products. Mexico will provide the food and Yellen will pay the bills 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:32 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Cheap & Easy to fix:

1. Move ALL hard-core prisons into a 3 mile wide DMZ along the US-Mexico border, and outsource its management to our dear NAFTA Friend: Mexico.

2. Supervision: We'll send in McCain periodically, to make sure it's not too upscale like the Hanoi Hilton, and that human rights are being observed.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:11 | Link to Comment q99x2
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I say. Give everyone a gun and let those poor folks out and put the globalists in.

I mean think of it. Greenspan, Bernanke, Yellen, Corzine, Bush , Cheney, Rumsfeld, The Clintons (throw Chelsey in too) Bush, Obama, Feinstein, Schumer, Clapper, Holder all in prison.

Just for starters if those criminals wwere behind bars what a difference that would make.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:10 | Link to Comment Duc888
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"There are 2.3 million people living behind bars in the United States and the prison system cost the federal government $55 billion every year".

 

Bullshit.  It costs the taxpayers money.  Not FEDGOV. 

 

OH, how's that privitization of the prison system working out?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:28 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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It's all FREE FIAT,

There is not limit on how much USD the GUBMINT can spend to incarcerate its citizens,

If you live in the USA, you either a 'criminal' or a 'domestic terrorist', unless you have GUBMINT job.

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:13 | Link to Comment 22winmag
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The white collar criminals armed with pens and working at your local city hall and state courts are more to be feared than the typical "convict".

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:22 | Link to Comment loveyajimbo
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Seriously, contract with the japanese for several thousand US prisoners to clean up the Fukishima debacle as manual labor... rotate them out every 2 months to their permanent home:  Somalia... contract to take care of them... $3,000/prisoner per year.  DONE

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:27 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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Prior to the 1780's the USA was 100% penal colony and DEBTOR's PRISON

The British used colonial North America (USA) as a penal colony through a system of indentured servitude. Merchants would transport the convicts and auctioned them off to (for example) plantation owners upon arrival in the colonies. It is estimated that some 50,000 British convicts were sent to colonial America, representing perhaps one-quarter of all British emigrants during the 18th century. The State of Georgia for example was first founded by James Edward Oglethorpe by using penal prisoners taken largely from debtor's prison, creating a "Debtor's Colony". However, as this largely failed, though the idea that the state began as a penal has stayed both in popular history, and local lore.[1] The British also would often ship Irish and Scots to the Americas whenever rebellions took place in Ireland or Scotland, and they would be treated similar to the convicts, except that this also included women and children.

When that avenue closed in the 1780s after the American Revolution,

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:58 | Link to Comment Advoc8tr
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You'd do well to maintain a little context Rambo ... almost all the "criminals" sent to USA and Australia as slave labour were guilty of such heinous crimes as stealing a scrap of bread to feed their children or saying something negative about the almighty King or were unable to pay the money lenders their usurious interest.  It is perhaps this willingness to do what it takes to survive that enamored the original inhabitants to build the first free nation ... sadly it didn't last but none have been able to repeat even this short lived achievement.

You can't paint everyone with the same brush just because 10 generations removed an ancestor was labelled a "criminal" by some asshole King. Are we to imagine that because you choose a Japanese name that you are Japanese and all Japs are the same as the cruel and inhumane subjects of the Emperor that we slaughtered in the Jungle defending ourselves from the terrible fate they inflicted on the Chinese citizens and others in their quest for domination over the ages ?  Look at them now - 100% related to their ancestors but the anti-thesis of their previously aggressive nature.

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:17 | Link to Comment satoshi101
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Rambo i ,

during the civil-war, a man could get a KILL 1 out of every 4 on his muzzle loader

During WWI it was about 10 shots per kill

In WWII it was 120+ shots per kill

In the vietnam war it was 50,000 shots per kill

[ Back in the day, a boy was sent out to get MEAT with one bullet,... those boys became men. ]

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This is NOT your grandpa's america.

The frog was boiled dead, a long long time ago.

I agree in the 1800's men were men, and in the 1910's men were men, and in the 1940's men were button pushers, and in 1960's men were stoned.

Today the US-MIL is a MERCENARY army, no longer conscripted rich kids or poor.

Just like the fall of Rome from Strength to decadence, and there is no return. The USA is going down, but it might still take another few 100 years.

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I agree that 'criminal' in western orwellian-speak, just means somebody that isn't a 'player', wink-wink, nod-nod

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:26 | Link to Comment the0ther
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The word is Doublespeak and is more central to the book than the mass surveillance.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:37 | Link to Comment Advoc8tr
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No matter how you twist it ... having the largest pro-rata proportion of the population in prison while claiming to be the "defender of freedom" is somewhat an oxymoron ? There are entire nations with less people than you have locked up in cages ... something is wrong that is for sure.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:38 | Link to Comment Blame Crash
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From the country that went to war, murdering millions of its own citizens, in order to stop something so blatantly wrong as slavery, we present private sector prisons.  It's just another example of "blatantly wrong" from pretty much the same suspects and it's not a coincidence that slavery and being imprisoned are closely related.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 21:50 | Link to Comment butchtrucks
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Only 2.3 million?  Jeez these private jailers are WAY behind in meeting their KPIs. 

At the last AGM I attended for Lock-em-up Inc. there was a Powerpoint chart showing a projected prison population of 25 million - with the catchline 'Make 10 %  our goal!'   Anyone not long the penal-industrial complex is crazy!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:34 | Link to Comment MeBizarro
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That is only the people in prison and not the people out in the parole system.  The rates of arrest in this country are INSANE and the rates at which people 23 and under have been arrested at least 1 are nuts.  For blacks recently it was 40% and even for whites it was 33% and there has been a huge increase since the 60s. 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:24 | Link to Comment homiegot
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At least you have a job in prison. Not so on the outside.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:20 | Link to Comment the0ther
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AND the work you produce in prison out competes private industry, on cost, every time.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:31 | Link to Comment MeBizarro
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But priviatzing prisons was supposed to save money when it was advocated as a strong cost-saver starting in the late 80s/early 90s by the GOP.  Actual track record of 'privatization' of what was gov't-run services is pretty mxied at best and in some areas like prisons it is horrendous. 

A huge share of this increase in prisons though goes back to the change in the '86 federal sentencing laws advocated as a response to the drug-fueled epidemic of violence and general increase in violent crime since the '60s.

It has worked due to a degree but it also has resulted in the US having by far and away the largest prison population per capita in the world.  Even if you include all of the various 'prisoners' in Russia, Brazil, or China, they aren't even close to the US on a per capita basis.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:36 | Link to Comment MeBizarro
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Decriminalizing certain classes of drugs including weed, hemp, and hallicurns, treating possession crimes with treatment instead of prison time, and doing away with other ridiculous laws like 'three strikes law' and the 'mandatory sentencing minimums' would go a long to really driving down arrest and incarnation rates in the US without a huge uptick in crime.

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:59 | Link to Comment MeBizarro
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In the land of the 'Free and the Brave' my a$$:

Nearly half of black males and almost 40 percent of white males in the U.S. are arrested by age 23, which can hurt their ability to find work, go to school and participate fully in their communities.

A new study released Monday (Jan. 6) in the journal Crime & Delinquency provides the first contemporary findings on how the risk of arrest varies across race and gender, says Robert Brame, a criminology professor at the University of South Carolina and lead author of the study.

The study is an analysis of national survey data from 1997 to 2008 of teenagers and young adults, ages 18, and their arrest histories, which run the gamut from truancy and underage drinking to more serious and violent offenses. The study excludes arrests for minor traffic violations.

The study's key findings include:

  • By age 18, 30 percent of black males, 26 percent of Hispanic males and 22 percent of white males have been arrested.
  • By age 23, 49 percent of black males, 44 percent of Hispanic males and 38 percent of white males have been arrested.
  • While the prevalence of arrest increased for females from age 18 to 23, the variation between races was slight. At age 18, arrest rates were 12 percent for white females and 11.8 percent and 11.9 percent for Hispanic and black females, respectively. By age 23, arrest rates were 20 percent for white females and 18 percent and 16 percent for Hispanic and black females, respectively.

So basically you have nearly 40% of all males arrested at least once by the age of 23 excludig minor traffic incidents compared to the a rate of 28% in the 1960s when the study was done last.

There are police states that don't arrest nearly 40% of all males at least once by the age of 23. 

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:03 | Link to Comment royal
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The US is a giant disgusting gulag state.

The worst offender of human rights in the world!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:40 | Link to Comment DOT
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Prisons, Universities, and the military are excellent ways of keeping unemployment down.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 00:30 | Link to Comment illadeljim
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My brother-in-law is a community corrections administrator. Last year he made almost half a million dollars with overtime. This guy is as dumb as a doorknob, yet he has managed to run this little prison and hire most of his friends and family members. It's hilarious!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 00:31 | Link to Comment illadeljim
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My brother-in-law is a community corrections administrator. Last year he made almost half a million dollars with overtime. This guy is as dumb as a doorknob, yet he has managed to run this little prison and hire most of his friends and family members. It's hilarious!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:16 | Link to Comment the0ther
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If it's not your duty to stab him you could at least order a hundred pizzas to his house.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 01:45 | Link to Comment MarcusLCrassus
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There are more people locked up in America's gulags than there was in Stalin's Soviet Union gulags.

 

What a disgrace.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:35 | Link to Comment the0ther
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Caning. Corporal punishment for those deserving of punishment.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 04:32 | Link to Comment Calculus99
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Whatever it takes to make a buck...

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 09:02 | Link to Comment Herdee
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Let me get this right,it's very popular in pension funds and investments that are socked away by politicians,judges,cops,military brass and security personnel.They must like  the dividend of humam abuse.Like locking up Mark Emery for selling seeds.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 09:55 | Link to Comment Angelo Misterioso
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this little prison system pales in comparison to the 50 million held captive in the US by the 3 million unionized teachers...

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