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U.S. Cattle Herd Is At A 61 Year Low And Organic Food Shortages Are Being Reported All Over America

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

If the extreme drought in the western half of the country keeps going, the food supply problems that we are experiencing right now are only going to be the tip of the iceberg.  As you will see below, the size of the U.S. cattle herd has dropped to a 61 year low, and organic food shortages are being reported all over the nation.  Surprisingly cold weather and increasing demand for organic food have both been a factor, but the biggest threat to the U.S. food supply is the extraordinary drought which has had a relentless grip on the western half of the country.  If you check out the U.S. Drought Monitor, you can see that drought conditions currently stretch from California all the way to the heart of Texas.  In fact, the worst drought in the history of the state of California is happening right now.  And considering the fact that the rest of the nation is extremely dependent on produce grown in California and cattle raised in the western half of the U.S., this should be of great concern to all of us.

A local Fox News report that was featured on the Drudge Report entitled "Organic food shortage hits US" has gotten quite a bit of attention. The following is an excerpt from that article...

Since Christmas, cucumbers supplies from Florida have almost ground to a halt and the Mexican supply is coming but it's just not ready yet.

 

And as the basic theory of economics goes, less supply drives up prices.

 

Take organic berries for example:

 

There was a strawberry shortage a couple weeks back and prices spiked.

 

Experts say the primary reasons for the shortages are weather and demand.

And without a doubt, demand for organic food has grown sharply in recent years.  More Americans than ever have become aware of how the modern American diet is slowly killing all of us, and they are seeking out alternatives.

Due to the tightness in supply and the increasing demand, prices for organic produce just continue to go up.  Just consider the following example...

A quick check on the organic tree fruit market shows that the average price per carton for organic apples was $38 per carton in mid-January this year, up from an average of just $31 per carton last year at the same time. At least for apple marketers, the organic market is heating up.

Personally, I went to a local supermarket the other day and I started to reach for a package of organic strawberries but I stopped when I saw that they were priced at $6.99.  I couldn't justify paying 7 bucks for one package.  I still remember getting them on sale for $2.99 last year.

Unfortunately, this may only be just the beginning of the price increases.  California Governor Jerry Brown has just declared a water emergency, and reservoirs throughout the state have dropped to dangerously low levels.

Unless a miracle happens, there is simply not going to be enough water to go around for the entire agriculture industry.  The following is an excerpt from an email from an industry insider that researcher Ray Gano recently shared on his website...

Harris farms has released a statement saying they will leave about 40,000 acres fallow this year because the FEDS have decided to only deliver 10% of the water allocation for 2014. Lettuce is predicted to reach around $5.00 a head (if you can find it). Understand the farmers in the Salinas valley are considering the same action. So much for salad this summer unless you grow it yourself.

The reason why the agriculture industry in California is so important is because it literally feeds the rest of the nation.  I shared the following statistics yesterday, but they are so critical that they bear repeating.  As you can see, without the fruits and vegetables that California grows, we would be in for a world of hurt...

The state produces 99 percent of the artichokes grown in the US, 44 percent of asparagus, a fifth of cabbage, two-thirds of carrots, half of bell peppers, 89 percent of cauliflower, 94 percent of broccoli, and 95 percent of celery. Leafy greens? California’s got the market cornered: 90 percent of the leaf lettuce we consume, along with and 83 percent of Romaine lettuce and 83 percent of fresh spinach, come from the big state on the left side of the map. Cali also cranks a third of total fresh tomatoes consumed in the U.S.—and 95 percent of ones destined for cans and other processing purposes.

 

As for fruit, I get that 86 percent of lemons and a quarter of oranges come from there; its sunny climate makes it perfect for citrus, and lemons store relatively well. Ninety percent of avocados? Fine. But 84 percent of peaches, 88 percent of fresh strawberries, and 97 percent of fresh plums?

Come on. Surely the other 49 states can do better.

Are you starting to understand how much trouble we could be in if this drought does not end?

About now I can hear some people out there saying that they will just eat meat because they don't like vegetables anyway.

Well, unfortunately we are rapidly approaching a beef shortage as well.

On January 1st, the U.S. cattle herd hit a 61-year low of 89.3 million head of cattle.

The biggest reason for this is the 5 year drought that has absolutely crippled the cattle industry out west...

Back in the late fall 2013 there was a freak snowstorm that killed close to 300,000+ cattle. This is a major hit to the cattle market.

 

I know in Texas where they still have a 5 year drought they are dealing with, they are having to ship grass bails in from Colorado, Utah and other parts of the country just to feed the cattle. Ranchers are sending their female cattle to the slaughter houses becasue they can not afford to feed them anymore. It is the females that help re-stock the herd. SO if you are slaughtering your females, your herd does not grow. It is expected that the US will not see cattle herd growth returning until 2017, maybe even later.

This is a problem which is not going away any time soon.

According to the Washington Post, the U.S. cattle herd has gotten smaller for six years in a row, and the amount of beef produced is expected to drop to a 20 year low in 2014...

The U.S. cattle herd contracted for six straight years to the smallest since 1952, government data show. A record drought in 2011 destroyed pastures in Texas, the top producing state, followed the next year by a surge in feed-grain prices during the worst Midwest dry spell since the 1930s. Fewer cattle will mean production in the $85 billion beef industry drops to a 20- year low in 2014, the U.S. Department of Agriculture said.

It would be hard to overstate how devastating this ongoing drought has been for many ranchers out west.  For example, one 64-year-old rancher who lives in Texas says that his herd is 90 percent smaller than it was back in 2005 because of the drought...

Texas rancher Looney, who is 64 and has been in the cattle business his whole life, said his herd is still about 90 percent below its size from 2005 because of the prolonged dry weather. It will take years for the pastures to come back, even if there is normal rainfall, he said. About 44 percent of Texas was in still in drought in the week ended Jan. 7, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor.

And it isn't just the U.S. that is dealing with this kind of drought.  The largest freshwater lake in China that was once about twice the size of London, England has almost entirely dried up because of the ongoing drought over there.

Meanwhile, global demand for food just continues to rise.

If this drought ends and the western half of the nation starts getting lots of rain, this could just be a temporary crisis.

However, the truth is that scientific research has shown that the 20th century was the wettest century in the western half of the country in 1000 years, and that we should expect things to return to "normal" at some point.

So is that happening now?

Over the past couple of years, I have warned that Dust Bowl conditions are starting to return to the western half of the United States.  Just see this article, this article and this article.

Now the state of California is experiencing the worst drought that it has ever gone through and "apocalyptic" dust storms are being reported in Colorado and Nevada.

Just because things seem like they have always been a certain way does not mean that they will always stay that way.

Things out west are rapidly changing, and in the end it is going to affect the lives of every man, woman and child in the United States.

 

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Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:32 | 4361237 mickeyman
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Why don't they just buy Chinese organic produce?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:38 | 4361277 surf0766
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Isn't that grown from the runoff of making solar panels?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:45 | 4361305 Stackers
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It's a good thing 90% of those California farms are artificially irrigated by one of the largest canal systems ever constructed .... uh ?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:47 | 4361318 max2205
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This site just hit a new low...btfd?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:09 | 4361403 Manthong
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dip? does that mean Ronald MacDonald is drooping?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:16 | 4361798 Boris Alatovkrap
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60 year low, but just imagine what socialism and central planning in command economy can accomplish, maybe hit 18th Century level before long. How nostalgia for Lysenko and starvation in Crimea. Forward Holodomor!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 06:31 | 4361981 BigJim
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Does this mean Americans will eat a bit less? *shudder*

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 06:55 | 4361997 samcontrol
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Argentine peso falling off the cliff against the shit paper dollar.

Buying farmland in Argentina has to be the no brainer play of 2014.

Hint and example.
Just paid my yearly taxes on winter chalet. 800m2 lot. 200m2 house.
MuniCipalidad 700 pesos
Rentas 980 pesos.

dólar went to 12 yesterday...

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 08:51 | 4362162 kralizec
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Where's the beef?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:51 | 4364527 Boris Alatovkrap
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Udder disaster!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 08:53 | 4362164 TheTmfreak
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Every time I read these articles about "organic food shortage" it makes me eye roll all over the place.

CAN"T FIND YOUR STRAWBERRIES? HUH? THEY"RE NOT EVEN IN SEASON FOR GOD SAKES. Its a mid Spring crop and its the fucking middle of winter for god sakes.

The article the other day bitched about cucumbers. Cucumbers are a damn summer crop. The headline shouldn't be "organic food shortage" it should be "americans waking up to the fact that the world doesn't work the way they want it to".

I personally haven't had a strawberry since last April. The only cucmbers I've eaten recently.... were pickles.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 10:51 | 4362521 Citxmech
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"Americans waking up to the fact that the world doesn't work the way they want it to."

OMG -The horror! 

Sombody ought to make a law. . . 

 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 09:19 | 4362219 Agstacker
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Bullish for soylent green!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 10:23 | 4362427 OceanX
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The exotic pet store has meal worrms!  They don't need a lot o space and grow real fast, virtually 100% protein! Mixed wtih dough, you can make a very nutritous bread.

 

AMERICA, YOUR GOING ON A DIET!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:12 | 4361418 Vint Slugs
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Yes, this site just hit a new low...I'm thinking maybe it's time to STFNL.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:51 | 4361550 Buck Johnson
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The next war in the world will be over resources (the first resource war of this generation).  It will be a fight over food, water, energy and including women to be honest with you.  The sick thing is that out west is going through a cycle that has it being dry for centuries.  Remember most of the water irrigation out west was done by artificial daming and capturing water from the melt from the mountains and rivers and diverting it to areas that where scrub. 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:20 | 4361808 Boris Alatovkrap
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Do not confuse war with natural disaster or condition. All war is Bankster war.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:47 | 4361845 X_mloclaM
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"fight over food, water, energy and including women to be honest with you."

None of these are natural.

Water is a cycle, and is misappropriated via a lack of private property, legal tender laws, monopoly of the production of money. Faster replacement of fresh water is possible with energy, unlockable through human innovation. Just as the social constructs that allow for the most efficient resource use. These are wars of wealth succubants, who rot the mind and moral via media, as lying becomes common, even celebrated practice in media and with those touted as leaders

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 03:27 | 4361872 Boris Alatovkrap
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Okay, maybe energy is synthetic, but food, water and woman is natural. Okay, so maybe is not woman with synthetic augmentation so natural, but food and water is natural, no?

Now Boris is forget point. What is it we are speak of?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 01:27 | 4361741 ebworthen
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Fewer farmers and more people.

Less arable land and water, and more people.

It's not a greenie or global warming article, it's about too many people and not enough resources.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 04:05 | 4361899 Obese-Redneck
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If ma missus don't get her 64oz porterhouse on Friday night she is likely to get all sort of ornery with me. Well least I won't havta clean the poop out of the bathtub count of she can't fit on no ordnery terlet.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 03:49 | 4361890 James
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Problem is that Ca. snowfall that feeds those canals is only 17% of normal for this time of year. The Polar Vortex over Ca. has pushed out the normal storm fronts  for some time now.

Ca. is a huge problem on many fronts.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:16 | 4361434 LMAOLORI
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"Why don't they just buy Chinese organic produce?"

 

Better to grow your own if you can or buy from local farmers.

 

 

8 Million Acres of China's Farmland is Too Polluted to Farm; All Farm Products From China Suspect
Fri, 01/24/2014 - 00:33 | 4361648 Matt
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That's the joke.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:17 | 4361441 MeBizarro
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Don't worry.  The US is already importing a lot more produce (it was mainly driven by seasonal demand during the winter) but increasingly we are going to import more and more produce items in the future inclduing from China. 

It would be nice if the US didn't have some of the most weak and horrendous food-labeling laws of any industrialized country in the world either so you actually did clearly know where you were eating food from and whether it was a GMO/irridiated product.  Crazy me for wanting to know that kind of stuff. 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:20 | 4361803 Boris Alatovkrap
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More likely is heavy metal, alkali, or maybe even is lanthanoid.

(Boris is have joke, before Chernobyl, sit long time in hard control room chair, complain of hemorrhoid. Now, lay in hospital bed, only complain of lanthanoid.)

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 10:54 | 4362544 Citxmech
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But they're so green over there  - they even recyle cooking oil! (from the sewer drains, apparently)

(You'll have to find your own link - I don't want to puke before I finish my morning coffee)

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 01:29 | 4361744 MarcusLCrassus
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Because Chinese food is probably grown with the assistance of that gutter oil of theirs. 

 

Why the hell would you risk eating anything that came out of China?  You would either have to be stupid or crazy. 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:29 | 4361821 X_mloclaM
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Snyder, wicked respect, but ", but the biggest threat to the U.S. food supply is the extraordinary drought which has had a relentless grip on the western half of the country" isn't valid if radioactive greens, rice, fruits grown in California come about from ongoing particulate radioisotopes in very small, but additive quantities.

Cesium's half-life is ~30yrs, short enough to emit more over a shorter period of time, but long enough to be an issue for humans, and in the instance cited.

Fuku is contaminating the Pacific, flotsam and jetsom, and to a small degree, in the air jetstreaming over perhaps suspended in H20 -- this accumulating in the soil of primarily the west coast of the US isn't an issue detectable today, but the groundwork is being laid for detectable Cs replacement (of K) in plant xylem -- the funny thing is, uptake is most efficient in organic soils!

Like with KI saturating Thyroid with clean Iodine (only for use in heavy, recent disaster as short I half-life), eliminating the prospect of absorbing a radioisotope of I, so too can KCl application saturate soils, such that plants discriminate K over Cs. The take away is eat fertilized greens, and encourage KCl application NOW, such that soils are prepared should FUKUPPY get worse

 

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Fri, 01/24/2014 - 06:19 | 4361969 The Heart
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You are in the ball park, Malcom.

Repeat post from a few days ago:

As the lock-down looms closer, and the gates of hell are closing in on the good old USA, there are those who are paying attention. Thank goodness these two great patriots are. Listen to this great interview now and pass it on. Remember, THEY plan to have a lid on the country BEFORE the country finds out about how bad fukushima really is. THAT is why the govts do not care to help the People of the USA when it comes to protecting them from something that can not be protected from. The whole show is set to blow and it will do that after the chaos is started and no one has time to observe and take radiation readings. It will be all about mere survival in a land that is all going to hell fast. Leave it if you can, now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U74c7_pRTA

This weather on the west coast was on the front burner of discussion earlier today.

We have seen a very unusual winter in the west/mid-west. It has been hotter than normal, and strange things are happening.

First, there has been no moisture to speak of. No rains on the west coast, or snows in the winter mountainous regions where there certainly should be. There are a few possible reasons why this may be happening.

Everybody knows about weather manipulation, Geo-engineering, and HAARP. It's all old news. Could they be manipulating the weather to keep the radiation off the California food belt?

Everybody knows about the constant ongoing pouring out of massive radiation into the air and ocean from fukushima with no end in sight, and the contamination around the world that has built up for almost three years now. It is still building up, and even more since the eruptions in December. Perhaps, even as far back as last summer, 2013.

What may be is, the plan to kill off the people is not greater than the plan to profit from them first at this time. Sucking the host dry is the banksters game in monopoly playing for the last dollar, and for the parasite. What is happening and why they are panicking is because this news about how bad fukushima is was not supposed to come out and go viral until AFTER the next false flag event to create the market crash, and or the martial law lock down that will come even after even a pop-corn fart happens any where, for almost any reason. Truth is moving their Population Elimination plan too quickly, and so this scares them because the evil is fast being exposed for what it is. A bottom line wholesale murderous agenda to kill off every breathing biological being on the planet.

Here are some supportive links around the weather manipulations that any third grader can pick up and piece together to see the possibilities. 

Phoenix Weather Report:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJL4Wcq6zt8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7id5AZsoA0

Precipitation Map:

http://stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=nam_precip

(watch the precipitation disappear as it approaches the west coast)

Satellite Photos Show Pacific Storms Stopped Cold, Destroyed:

http://www.rense.com/general96/pacstorms.html

Grid Down talk with James Wesley Rawles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELHBANfywYM

Now here is the real kicker. What we fear is the already growing fire season. Why? ALL THE RADIATION THAT HAS BEEN HITTING ALL THE SLOWLY DYING FORESTS FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS NOW, INCLUDING THE MOX THAT CAME AFTER THE MARCH 14 NUK EXPLOSION, WILL ALL GO BACK UP INTO THE ATMOSPHERE TO BE FURTHER SPREAD ALL OVER THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, AND EVEN EUROPE IF THERE IS A BIG FIRE.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541531/California-governor-declares-drought-emergency-wildfires-continue-burn.html

As dry as it is already, the fires could be endless across the whole country. THAT, is the real concern and associated with these anomalous weather fronts that are seemingly holding off the rains and snows FIRST RADIATION FALLS ON THE CALIFORNIA FOOD CROPS. How sad that the profits to the very end, and taxation of the people, are more important than protecting them with the tax dollars they pay to do just that. Protect them. The desire to not ruin the fish and food industry with radioactive rain, as well as the entire economy of California and all it manufactures is the high priority. If it becomes jeopardized too soon, or it becomes known that most of the food coming from California is already contaminated, well, lets hope that does not happen, but it would be a serious situation for the people to find out about. Surely, there are a few here that can expound on what exactly that would mean. THIS, is also why we see the constant media dis-information propaganda to dissuade the populace from finding out the horrible truth about how bad the contamination already is.

Who is responsible for protecting the American People, anyways?

All we have to do is watch daily to see what happens next knowing something is going to happen soon. Are you prepared for say, a grid take down? A false flag event more horrible than 9/11? What's going to be the next distraction, or false flag event to take the attention off the real number one world issue of the continuing ongoing contamination of fukushima on the dying west coast, and long dead Pacific Ocean? There is only one higher priority and that is an incoming ELE comet. For now, it is the race between the economy crashing too soon, the ongoing fukushima contamination becoming known too soon, a fake flu pandemic causing the martial law and the foreign invasion, another world war, or any other bankster created event. Who knows?

Pray for peace and sanity in the land where the gardner is King!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 07:11 | 4362012 samcontrol
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nice links

bastards of Basel...I like that.

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 16:06 | 4368911 michael63636
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Gentlemen, we have hit peak bullshit.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:36 | 4361252 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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If you have not learned to grow some food by now, please do this spring. The system is being taxed no pun intended.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:39 | 4361274 El Vaquero
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No pun, but two correct meanings in one.  The government is taxing an agricultural system that is being taxed by drought and unsound farming practices.  Yes, learn how to grow some food.  Stick to open pollinated stuff.  Heriloom, or some local landrace varietes.  Don't get varieties that require products from heavy industry or petrochemicals, because it's best to learn how to grow stuff like that now when the pressure to get it right is not how well you will be eating. 

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 16:40 | 4368989 michael63636
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Grow it in closed cycle greenhouses. Google Eurofresh.com. They have 58 acres out of 320 acres that are closed cycle greenhouses.

 

GOOGLE = gmo testes


http://www.responsibletechnology.org/article-gmo-soy-linked-to-sterility


Genetically Modified Soy Linked to Sterility, Infant Mortality

"This study was just routine," said Russian biologist Alexey V. Surov, in what could end up as the understatement of this century. Surov and his colleagues set out to discover if Monsanto's genetically modified (GM) soy, grown on 91% of US soybean fields, leads to problems in growth or reproduction. What he discovered may uproot a multi-billion dollar industry.

After feeding hamsters for two years over three generations, those on the GM diet, and especially the group on the maximum GM soy diet, showed devastating results. By the third generation, most GM soy-fed hamsters lost the ability to have babies....

 

 

GMOs were banned for good reasons in Europe decades ago.  Europeans do not have their heads up their ass like Americans. Putting labels on them is bullshit!

Campaign to outlaw them!

The genes and the RNA transfer agent used to get the GM genes into organisms survives the digestion process and enters the bloodstream.  Then all over the body our cells make the BT neurotoxin. It is destroying our ability to have children.  The gene floats on the wind and carries the BT gene to plants around the world. This is the worst blunder the human race has ever made.  Monsanto may have genocided us. Outlaw the shit now!

Russia Warns Obama of World War over Monsanto GMO Food a

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYp6NidnFNs

Putin "the bee apocalypse WILL MOST CERTAINLY LEAD TO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERpGsvQZ0ZE

World War Bee.Vladimir Putin says war may break out over GMO's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nFtwAKpCWo

AVN | Russia threatens GLOBAL WAR over Monsanto's destructi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vUjBUxW-3E





GOOGLE = Gmo bt gene dropping fertility

RESULTS:

1.    Doctors Warn: Avoid Genetically Modified Food - Institute for ...
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In the US population, the incidence of low birth weight babies, infertility, and ... Geneticengineers insert Bt genes into corn and cotton, so the plants do the killing.
1.    Organics versus GMO: Why the debate? | Genetic Literacy Project
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Oct 15, 2013 - You are more likely to get hit by an asteroid than to get hurt by GM food...... pests that actually attack the crop through the use of Bt corn and Bt cotton? .... is the one that has Monsanto's stock prices dropping: the French study of six ... We as a nation are already having fertility issues after a decade of GMO.


1.    Genetically Engineered Foods May be Far More Harmful than We ...
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Weston A. Price Foundati...
Oct 23, 2013 - Not only was there a dramatic drop in rate of disease and medicine bills, he says, ... Many farmers who were struggling with high rates of infertility and ... The bacterial gene that produces the Bt-toxin is inserted into GM crops.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:58 | 4361361 icanhasbailout
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I learned to grow food specifically because it was a rare non-taxable productive activity where I could increase my wealth without having a million hands grabbing for a share of it, and taking the bulk of the literal fruits of my labor.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 00:15 | 4361601 TheMeatTrapper
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I learned to grow food specifically because it was a rare non-taxable productive activity where I could increase my wealth without having a million hands grabbing for a share of it, and taking the bulk of the literal fruits of my labor.

This is the truth! This is also why I taught myself to trap - meat. I have a full years supply of steroid free, organic meat in my freezer. 

When I trap my food, I don't have to earn (and pay income tax on) the money to buy the food. I don't have to buy the food at the store (and pay sales tax). I legally avoid feeding the system by feeding myself. 

Anything we can do to starve the beast while feasting upon the fruits of our knowledge and labor is well worth doing!

Learn To Trap

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 06:51 | 4361992 tip e. canoe
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thanks for the link.   genius idea on the catfish trap.   i'm assuming this works for other fish (same size) as well?   how often do you check it?

have you seen the movie Happy People?   all about trappers in Siberia.   check out dude's skis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXdbqa65GhI

favorite line : "We are all killers or their accomplices.", said as he's skinning a sable.

(hattip: fonz, thanks man)

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 10:17 | 4362390 hedgeless_horseman
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I learned to grow food specifically because it was a rare non-taxable
productive activity where I could increase my wealth without having a
million hands grabbing for a share of it, and taking the bulk of the
literal fruits of my labor.

Amen!

In addition, home-grown food tastes better and is better for you.

Home-grown grass-fed beef stew with carrots, garlic, onions, potatoes, and tomatoes.

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 16:43 | 4368999 michael63636
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It is not steroidfree.  The steroids from other food sources go into the environment and contaminate all living things on this planet, including wild meat.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 03:25 | 4361870 Kprime
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wish I could give you two gardeners a 1000 thumbs up.  I am doing the same thing the past 3 years.  I cannot tell you the satisfaction I get eating a tomato, bursting with unbelievable flavor, that has come to me as free as possible from taxation.

In addition, we heat with wood supplied with our own manual labor.  We trade services around the rural area.  No one pays.  We don't even have a taxable trade association.  No Sir, all help is simply a gift.  What a friendly group.

TO STARVE THE GOVERNMENT, FEED YOURSELF.

we assess every effort, every trade, and every purchase on it's level of taxation.  We are moving as far away from taxable situations as possible.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 08:48 | 4362150 tip e. canoe
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Gift exchange is a companion to transformation.

(market exchanges will always seem inappropriate during transformation.)

~Lewis Hyde

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 10:20 | 4362417 PeakOil
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Dmitry Orlov's 5 Stages of Collapse discusses trust, gifting and exchange in detail. A most insightful book.

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 16:49 | 4369012 michael63636
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Best news I have ever heard.  Keep up the good work! Now begin building closed cycle greenhouses with hydroponic solutions for growing your food.  Next design a chemical engineering process to turn raw sewage into hydroponic solutions.  Add the trace elements that are deficient in our bodies, food and fertilizers, and composts and manures.  Purify your sources of essential elements of all toxic elements.  Now you are on your way to long term survival!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:19 | 4363982 SDShack
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To Hell with growing veggies, all you have to learn to do is grow weed. It's the ultimate cash crop. Can be grown indoors year round and the demand is only going to grow exponential. Soon every gubment is going to realize it's the best way to raise money. Tax the growers and the users. Weed will be legal in every state in no time because gubment will see it as a cash cow. Never mind that people consuming it get more hungry and have to eat more. All that matters is it generates money for the gubment and keeps the sheeple content. It's the new superfood. I'm not kidding about this. Watch what happens. Hell, I bet Monsanto already has GM strains of weed ready to patent.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:38 | 4361259 Dr. Engali
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It looks like somebody else made it on Zero's enemies list:

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/obama-filmmaker-indicted-for-campaign-...

That news aside. Thank goodness for a generous deer harvest this year. I'm long bow hunting and vegetable gardens.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:40 | 4361282 ACP
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Not only that, but hooker addict Senator Menendez is also getting investigated again, after crossing Zerobama.

Not that I care about his career, but shows just how how much tolerance Zerobama has for dissent.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 08:49 | 4362159 tip e. canoe
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love this comment below the article:

To quote from apocalypse now… charging someone with campaign fraud in this country is like handing speeding tickets out at the Indy 500

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:38 | 4361275 mickeyman
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The natural climate of California is supposed to include some dryness--but with the amazing amount of agriculture in the place, that just isn't acceptable. Do the farms there normally require a lot of irrigation? With the way groundwater resources are getting depleted everywhere (especially China and India) is there any way to get back to a real 5% GDP growth?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:46 | 4361304 Dr. Engali
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"is there any way to get back to a real 5% GDP growth?"

No. Growth is dead. Even if we could, would we want too?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 01:01 | 4361699 samsara
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That is the ONLY point. 

Nobody wants to hear that "Growth" is dead.  

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:30 | 4361483 Stuck on Zero
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Everything in California needs to be irrigated.  Because of old water allocations most of the water is dumped out or used to irrigate alfalfa, essentially a zero value crop.  Politics triumps over common sense everywhere in the state.  Another 30 million immigrants ought to set things right.

 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 00:42 | 4361667 Rock On Roger
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Alfalfa is fed to cows that produce milk. Cheese, butter, ice cream have some value?

But I agree, much water is wasted. Greed trumps common sense.

 

Stack On

 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 03:03 | 4361853 X_mloclaM
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The price is fixed. The dairy.

So everything is misallocated all the way up the production chain. (water incl)

its why more isnt exported from CA (and prices so high relative to what they would be)

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 00:10 | 4361590 Stuck on Zero
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Everything in California needs to be irrigated.  Because of old water allocations most of the water is dumped out or used to irrigate alfalfa, essentially a zero value crop.  Politics triumps over common sense everywhere in the state.  Another 30 million immigrants ought to set things right.

 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 01:50 | 4361772 Professorlocknload
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mickey, " Do the farms there normally require a lot of irrigation? "

Farms in California are most all irrigated. No summer rains there.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 01:56 | 4361779 Renewable Life
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I live in Nor Cal (as the hipsters like to call it) and if you drive one minute outside the Bay Area, it's fucking tree crops for as far as the eye can see, every damn acre needs to be flood irrigated every two to three days and have dump trucks of fertilizer dumped on it monthly!!!!

They say the nut orchards are worth $100,000 an acre almost now, well I was in the Sierra's last weekend at 6500 feet and it was 58 degrees and blazing sun, with zero snow pack anywhere!!!! I sure as fuck can't wait to see what the gumbment gonna do to "bail out" this mess, besides lip service and emergency decree's!!!! CA farmers could be looking at a trillion dollars + in loses and the quadrupling of Americans food cost, plus massive shortages world wide in produce, nuts, and dairy products!!

No water = the end of CA and its economy!! The bearded lady in DC better get ready to print a trillion more by late Sept and remove the debt ceiling all together, or this bitch is over!!!

Tapering my ass!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 09:07 | 4362197 tip e. canoe
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triple long almonds

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 17:02 | 4369034 michael63636
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Is there any way to get back to a real 5% GDP growth? 

YES!  I know how.  /But not under the present system of taxation.  There are too many hidden taxes.

Also, not with Mexicans or Muslims or Chinese or blacks involved, or with any criminal involved.

It is only possible with groups of white Christian and Jewish who are honest and hardworking.  All other groups must be excluded.

It also requires that 10 percent or more of the people in these groups are educated to the BS level in all fields of science and engineering.

 

Plato stated the minimum size for a city state was 1,000 people.

They must all be racists, white supremicists.

I know the technology.  I am a scientist and engineer.

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:40 | 4361286 stant
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lease on grazing land in ky per acre $45, corn 250 to 350

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:41 | 4361288 SKY85hawk
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Less ethanol, more beef!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:42 | 4361291 Osmium
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Break out the Soylent Green.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:42 | 4361292 q99x2
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Duh. Cows hibernate in the Winter, fools.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 11:03 | 4362568 bigrooster
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You are a fucking idiot!  Cows graze all year long.  Ever been outside of the city?  I saw hundreds of cows out grazing in NE Arizona last weekend.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 11:46 | 4362716 Calmyourself
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Down arrowed you for extreme lack of SARC detector..

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:42 | 4361296 fonzannoon
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if it rains in california you get radiated organic food. it's a lose lose.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:45 | 4361300 Seasmoke
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They better decide on a RESET, before it's too late. 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:45 | 4361302 wisehiney
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Reminds me of the scene in "Soylent Green" where Charleton Heston eats his first apple in years, core and all.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 11:00 | 4362560 Citxmech
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I fear that movie (and the book:  "Make Room, Make Room") is going to become more and more relevant as time goes on.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:45 | 4361303 LetThemEatRand
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Monsanta, or The ManSanto?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:47 | 4361310 Dr. Engali
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Manwiches.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:52 | 4361324 LetThemEatRand
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What does Obama's wife have to do with this?   Who is manlier? I ask you. No one. That is who.  Hold on.  It's Manwich.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:03 | 4361780 A Dollar Short
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No, I hear she is the Son Of Manwich.  

A ManwichBitch.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:47 | 4361309 satoshi101
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The sky is falling, there is no food,

Yet 'MOO' is saying otherwise? So who is telling the truth? The tape, or ZH?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:48 | 4361316 Race Car Driver
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> Are you starting to understand how much trouble we could be in if this drought does not end?

And when it does end it'll be with radiated rain. Joy.

Rumor has it that the rain is being intentionally held off shore because of the radiation.

Kookery ... it's what's for dinner. 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:48 | 4361317 Iam_Silverman
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Due to the extended drought here in Texas, we've cut the number of cattle we run.  Hay is getting ridiculous too.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:53 | 4361341 post turtle saver
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yeah, but we've got deer and feral hogs coming out of our ears... plenty of bbq to go around

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 09:24 | 4362229 Agstacker
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Don't know if it's worth the transportation cost but there's plenty of hay in here in Colorado-

 

http://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/gl_gr310.txt

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:48 | 4361322 Curt W
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This is where the freezer full of deer and elk meat comes in handy

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:17 | 4361438 Miffed Microbio...
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Hope you have solar with battery backup. During one of our wildfires, power was out for 3 weeks. My neighbor lost $500 worth of meat. He gave most of it away to all of us before it went bad.

Miffed;-)

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:35 | 4361497 wisehiney
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There are also reasonably priced "Extreme Coolers" that keep ice for a week at 90 degrees, and more.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 01:06 | 4361709 Curt W
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I have a small gasoline generator.  My step-father has a large diesel generator.

We are currently looking into solar as well.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:43 | 4361842 Joe A
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He should have BBQ'ed or smoked it in the wildfires in order to preserve it  ;-)

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 13:26 | 4363227 Miffed Microbio...
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Sad memories! the poor cattle on the Indian reservation were cooked alive. Couldn't out run a fire being blown by 45mph winds. The stench was unbearable and watching those black bloated bodies rot is an image I will never forget.

I do appreciate the experience though, gave us a dry run how it would be in a real disaster. You really get to see who are your true friends as well.

Miffed ;-)

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 09:18 | 4362213 tip e. canoe
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flower pot fridges

http://1drojo.com/clay-pot-refrigeration-cool/

p.s. miffed, if he gave it away to his neighbors, then perhaps he didn't lose it all ;~)

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 13:30 | 4363236 Miffed Microbio...
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His "loss" was our "gain". We now have a plan to help each other if or when this happens again. We can supply him power so he can pump water and keep his meat frozen. Funny how little disasters in life seem to work out favorably in the end.

Miffed;-)

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 17:06 | 4369057 michael63636
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The meat could ahve been saved using older methods.  Dry it into jerky. Salt it.

British Navy had salt pork. Suggest you all read up on food preservation with out electricity.

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:49 | 4361323 post turtle saver
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good... I'm only one famine away from my ideal weight, this should do the trick

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:49 | 4361325 BandGap
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Anyone else thinking the Dust Bowl during thlast depression?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 07:08 | 4362009 Disenchanted
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I wonder if all the leftover 'Okies' are going to be moving back east...Wrath of Grapes.

btw...without all those fruits and nuts coming out of Kalifornia, we'd all be better off. ;p

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 11:03 | 4362573 Citxmech
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This is going to be worse.  Wait until Lake Mead's low water level shuts down Hoover Dam's power generation. . .

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:50 | 4361326 JustObserving
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The price of almonds at Costco jumped from $11.49 to $14.49 for 3 pounds in just one visit.  I read that it is a lack of honey bees.  I saw lot fewer bees last year than in previous years (I spend many hours a week in the woods taking photos).  So, perhaps, the disappearing honey bees are finally have an effect on food production and prices.  

Price of nutty treats to soar as declining honey bee population hits almond production
  • Almonds are a vital ingredient for confectioners around the world
  • Californian almond orchards require 1.5m beehives every year for pollination
  • They account for 80% of the world's almond crop
  • But farmers have seen the price of beehive hire triple in the last decade
  • The declining honey bee population is likely to push prices even higher 
  • http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2487613/Price-nutty-treats-soar-...
Fri, 01/24/2014 - 05:23 | 4361882 Trucker Glock
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I got junked on another post for mentioning this, but fuck it.

There are two ducumentaries about bees on nutflix, if you're interested.

"Vanishing of the Bees" and "More Than Honey"

Very different styles of documentary, as well as very different content.

Edit:  There is strong correlation, some say causation, between bee colonies dying off and what are called systemic pesticides.  France experienced and diagnosed the problem before it was seen in the U.S.  Bayer's systemic pesticides were blamed.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 10:00 | 4362349 Bangin7GramRocks
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A chemical has to produce instantaneous tumors or sudden death to get banned in the United States. How many wil die early because of the chemicals in plastic and diet soda alone? Greedy bastards!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 11:52 | 4362741 Calmyourself
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http://rt.com/usa/tobacco-plant-tied-beemageddon-deaths-049/

Have to go to RT for truth..  Pesticides were ruled out as a systemic cause a while back..

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:41 | 4363808 Trucker Glock
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Based on what I've read recently, the conclusion is that a mix of pesticides and fungicides weakens the immune system allowing some typical parasite (virus?) to invade and take over.  Without the cocktail of synthetic chemicals, the immune system can defeat or stave off the parasite.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 11:06 | 4362583 bigrooster
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I was just thinking about going to Costco today and picking up 10lbs or so of almonds.  

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 17:09 | 4369060 michael63636
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I read that it is a lack of honey bees.  ....

Putin threatens WW3 over lack of honey bees:

Russia Warns Obama of World War over Monsanto GMO Food a

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYp6NidnFNs

Putin "the bee apocalypse WILL MOST CERTAINLY LEAD TO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERpGsvQZ0ZE

 

World War Bee.Vladimir Putin says war may break out over GMO's

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nFtwAKpCWo

 

AVN | Russia threatens GLOBAL WAR over Monsanto's destructi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vUjBUxW-3E

 

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:56 | 4361356 geologyguy
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In Texas, they pray for rain.  In Maryland, they tax it.

Liberals at work.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 01:23 | 4361738 ebworthen
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FYI - the Republicans in the Inter-mountain West think they own the rain that falls on your roof too.

Different stripes of the same Hydra.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 22:59 | 4361363 Yes_Questions
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Are you starting to understand how much trouble we could be in if this drought does not end?

 

Just had a vision of a Ned Beatty type character from Network saying these same words to a group of US lawmakers over whether to fund Geoengineering programs.

 

If I could post video of yesterday's skies over Colorado before last night's/this morning's anemic showing of a Winter snow...

 

 


 

 

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:25 | 4361467 notadouche
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Does anyone think man has any control over weather patterns?  If so then my next question would be"  Arrogant much?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 00:04 | 4361573 Yes_Questions
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Oh think big, will yah!

 

 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 11:05 | 4362576 Citxmech
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Deforestation does.

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 17:17 | 4369074 michael63636
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My brother read a book in a bureaucrat’s office.  It was the rain records on the coast of California from about 1849.  Before the redwoods were cut, annual rainfall was 400 inches per year.  With the cutting of the Redwood forests, the rain fall gradually decreased to about 40 inches per year.  Its less than that now, of course.  The burrocrat would not let the records out of the office because they would cause a revolution if the people were to find out.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:01 | 4361372 proLiberty
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Added fact: the federal government has not been very accommodating to ranchers with respect to using federal lands for running cattle.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:27 | 4361443 Vint Slugs
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BS.  The Federal govt has bent over backwards to accommodate ranchers grazing cattle.  First of all, have you ever seen federal grazing land in Nevada, for example, where it takes >20 acres to support a single steer?  Second, have you never read anything about Fed grazing permits, and  those who oppose them, on land west of the Rockies?  There's a running battle between the greenies and the ranchers who have been running cattle on those lands for over a century.  Take a look at some of the court dockets.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 03:19 | 4361863 X_mloclaM
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and the only reason they have stead is for that leverage point, whereas if private and homesteaded, it would be wildly more productive.

let's take a look at it's cost as the net, subtacted from the opportunity cost, rather than versus a false choice

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 09:53 | 4362275 tip e. canoe
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moving, mobbing & mowing : it's not rocket science.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nIcfh2UqV8

"If everybody who had cows in the U.S. would practice that model, it so invigorates and converts solar into carbon that in fewer than 10 years, we would sequester all the carbon that's been emitted since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution."

Joel Salatin for BLS Commish

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 17:30 | 4369108 michael63636
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Finaly.  Somebody with some brains doing the right thing in Agricultural production.  This guy is correct. Listen to him.  follow his example.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 10:05 | 4362360 Bangin7GramRocks
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Grazing? Most cattle are simply stuffed with GMO corn until they are fat enough to slaughter. Steroids and anti-biotics finish off the toxic mess and then you all eat it!. It's expensive, but I will only eat grass-fed beef.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 11:10 | 4362598 bigrooster
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Agreed.  In AZ I can get 640 acres of federal land for grazing for only $120 or so a year!  However you can only graze 7 cattle on 640 acres.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 00:44 | 4361638 New World Chaos
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The public-lands grazing fee is $1.35 per cow per month.  In 1966, it was $1.23 per month.  The free market price would be much higher.  There has been a lot of inflation since 1966, and even back then, the BLM was notorious for pimping out public lands cheaply.  They don't call it the Bureau of Livestock and Mining for nothing.  Also, since ranchers don't own the land, they overgraze it and then move their herds to another patch.  You can hike through a grazed area that looks like the moon, cross a fence and it's like the Garden of Eden in comparison, even though it's a desert.  It takes decades for a desert to recover.  By then, a lot of the thin soil might be gone.

Ranchers like to pretend they are rugged individualists but actually they're bunch of welfare queens.  Fuck 'em.  I hope their cows get poached when people get desperate.

To learn more, read anything by Edward Abbey (Desert Solitaire or the Monkey Wrench Gang would be a good start).

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:30 | 4361819 FreeMktFisherMN
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the tragedy of the commons with the classic cow grazing example comes to mind.

The misallocation and inefficiencies of resource allocation is a huge problem only going to grow. And the problems are not derived from market outcomes, either. Just look at all the water cronies get to come to their places when in the market it would cost a lot more and certain plants wouldn't be produced as it wouldn't be profitable. Excellent articles on Mises about the water in the West and how it is government intervention to blame, shocker. 

Enclosures were a huge step for the British towards their agricultural revolution that faciltiated the industrial revolution. 

 

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 17:40 | 4369123 michael63636
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find out.

The public lands grazing scam is about as fucked up as it comes.  There is absolutely no incentive for ranchers to care for the land.

 

Ranchers that own the land they graze their cattle upon have a tremendous incentive to care for their land.  Joe Salatin increased his grazing days to 400 cattle days per year per acre in a county where the average is 80 cattle grazing days per year.  He just used his God given right to think about what he was doing and how to do it better. 

The common American view is that only the stupidest people should be farmers and ranchers. That view is wrong.

 

Agricultural production is the basis of all production.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 01:22 | 4361737 ebworthen
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They need to bring back sheep; better tasting healthier meat, valuable wool, and a more efficient animal.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 06:52 | 4361994 BigJim
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And goats?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 09:22 | 4362228 tip e. canoe
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and yaks?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 11:13 | 4362612 bigrooster
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Yep goats are the answer.  Over 2/3 of the red meat eaten in the world is goat.  A goat will eat almost any plant but they won't pull up the roots and destroy the plant like cattle do.  Also a goat has 2 or more kids hence a heard grows much faster.  Cows usually only have one calf every year.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 09:39 | 4362272 rwe2late
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rabbits, chickens, and bison

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:00 | 4361373 youngman
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at least we have toilet paper....wow....I was begining to worry...

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 07:09 | 4362010 negative rates
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I was begining to worry about who going to wipe my fat dirty ass, but then I saw pete the psychiatrist walk thru the door and found my answer. 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:01 | 4361376 MopWater
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I find if hilarious the hand wringing of these articles.

If you live in rural areas, you already are somewhat self sufficient.  Keeping of a garden is relativly common place.  That said, its usually not the rural folk clamboring for the "organic" food, its the suburbanites who use plenty of chemical fertilizers to keep their manicured lawns in pristine condition.  Its funny how you look at food differently when you grow your own.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 10:09 | 4362382 Bangin7GramRocks
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I fucking struggle mightily with this. I realize I am a hypocrite for eating organic but using fertilizer on my grass. There is just so much societal pressure in East Coast suburban towns to maintain a beautiful lawn. I may just say fuck it this spring. Any suggestions for a less toxic way to keep a nice, manicured lawn?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 11:07 | 4362586 Citxmech
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Tear it up and grow a garden.  Seriously.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 11:44 | 4362705 CJHames
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Pick a nice patch of young, fresh dandelions during the spring and invite your neighbors over for a little salad for lunch. I'm sure that'll win 'em over.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 13:23 | 4363218 Citxmech
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He might want to start with raised beds filled with good organic soil/compost until some of the crap he put on his lawn leaches away. . . 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:39 | 4363549 FrankDrakman
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Oh, I'm sure they'll be just pissing themselves...

"Dandelion leaves are used as a diuretic to help the body get rid of too much fluid."

Source: Dandelion | University of Maryland Medical Center http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/herb/dandelion#ixzz2rLIfeeQR
University of Maryland Medical Center

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 18:08 | 4369167 michael63636
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Commonly they use weed and feed, which contains chlorinated organic compounds. These bio accumulate in the food chain.  They may persist for hundreds of years, cycling through the food chain. 

These compunds ultimate effects will take hundreds of years to document.  Data trickling in show compoundsof these sort include Mutagens, Teratogens, and Carcinogens. Some have Potent estrogenic activity. Many cause Endocrine disruption. Some are Steroid-altering compounds.  Mnay show Neurotoxicity, especially BT GMOs.  Many of them are Mutagenic.  Some disrupt Mental estrogens or androgens.  

 

 

Endocrine Disruptors In Sewage Biosolids Applied To Agricultural

Landhttp://www.weao.org/assets/docs/residualsBiosolids/final_report.pdf

Of course with weed and feed, these chlorinated organic compounds wash into the rivers and oceans.  They come back to us in fish, are shit out and endlessly cylce through the fish to us to sewage to fish...

Just by continuing to use weed and feed, all babies borninearth will look like this:

 

  1. Ten Years Later, U.S. Has Left Iraq with Mass Displacement ... ?? www.democracynow.org/.../ten...
     
    Democracy Now!  Mar 20, 2013

    Dahr Jamail, investigative journalist who has just returned fromIraq.... returning from Iraq tested positive for depleted uraniumcontamination.

  2. https://alhittin.wordpress.com/tag/iraq-war/

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/3/20/ten_years_later_us_has_left

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:03 | 4361377 MopWater
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Double post

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:06 | 4361388 MeBizarro
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Overlwhelming point-source of nitrogen and phosphorous in US tribuatries and water sheds is from farms and the massive excess amounts of fertilizdr they use to grow select crops mainly corn and soybeans. 

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 18:08 | 4369174 michael63636
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GMO CORN AND GMO SOYBEANS

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 18:08 | 4369175 michael63636
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GMO CORN AND GMO SOYBEANS

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:05 | 4361390 Vint Slugs
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This post by Michael Snyder is a good example of total bullshit.

First of all, the "Dust Bowl" links to the Colorado and Nevada conditions are datelined June 2013 -  nothing current.  Summer in the west is characterized by dust storms and other dry weather phenomenon.  After all, particularly in Nevada, the rainy season is from November to April.

Second, let's ask Mr Snyder with regard to his "Organic Food Shortages" just how much of the total domestic consumption of food is represented by "organic" produce or organic raised livestock.

Third, the honey bee population decline has been the subject of several books over the past several years and, maybe more importantly, knowledgable sources claim that the cause of the bee population decline has been identified.  Therefore remedies can be effected.

This Snyder post reeks of data cherry picking and curve fitting.

I am always open to considering new viewpoints but Snyder isn't giving us a new viewpoint.  Rather, he's giving us a load of propaganda.

ZH can do a lot better than this tripe.  But maybe that doing better approach is a thing of past ZH owners.  Just a note to the Tylers, new or old, you can only post stuff like Snyder's for a limited time before you start losing your thinking audience, and thus your "clicks".

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:10 | 4361409 MeBizarro
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Yup.  He is a trash op-ed poster who should be phased out of this site or gotten rid of entirely.  He reposts nothing of original content or analysis.  Just copy and paste crap ad-hoc. 

You would be hard-pressed to find a more terrible group of op-ed contributors on a major news site than on ZH. 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 00:03 | 4361572 TheReplacement
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Almost like newsbots are you saying?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:31 | 4361824 X_mloclaM
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I love his curation, consise transitions, all from an Austrian sense. FUck Off

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 18:15 | 4369198 michael63636
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I think he should be commended for his efforts and contribution.  There is much value in collecting the right information and putting it in one file.  This is the essence of what the CIA does. Gathers information and classifies it.

 

I think he should stay. He provides a valuable service to ZH.

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 18:19 | 4369204 michael63636
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If you do not like his style, you do not need to read his article.  Just skip on to the next one. He supplies the raw data which the analysts can digest.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 02:32 | 4361827 trader1
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http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Michael_T._Snyder

Michael T. Snyder is a fundamentalist Christian crank who has started numerous blogs as a testament to his raging insane belief that the world is about to end. He started with The Economic Collapse Blog in 2007, with constant articles stating how the world is going to hell every single day since the meltdown started in 2007. It seems as though Snyder blames the government for every ill in the world, because without it everything would be great.

Like most doom-sayers, it doesn't seem to faze Snyder one bit that every one of his past predictions of economic collapse were dead wrong. This horrendous track record would cause most people to reevaluate their beliefs in the effort to one day be right. Yet, he simply refuses to even address or acknowledge that he has been wrongthousands of times, especially if you count each numbered item of his massive lists. He seems to have explosive diarrhea of the mind that no amount of logic can slow or stop.

Who is this nut?

Michael T. Snyder states on his contact page that he is an undergraduate in Commerce from the University of Virginia, and possesses a law degree with an LLM (legal emphasis, not stated) from the University of Florida law school. He has supposedly worked in "numerous Washington DC lawfirms", but quit to live outside of Seattle and rage at the world through the internet. Or as Snyder puts it "now I mostly focus on trying to make a difference in the world."

He also states very clearly "I am a Christian, but I believe that most of the churches in America have gotten way off track." Snyder has recently posted a statement of faith[1] in which he states that he believes that the Bible is literally true and that Jesus is coming down in person soon to start the end times to punish all the non-believers.[2] After which Jesus will start his thousand year reign over Earth.

Otherwise Snyder is very tight lipped about himself, which makes it hard to find out what drove him mad.

 

The Economic Collapse blog and clones

The Economic Collapse Blog plays to the heart strings of every survivalisttax protester, extreme libertarian, and rapture ready nut that can access the internet. The unfortunate part is manycranks post the articles far and wide to the groans of many people who have pointed out that time itself has proven all of the blogs posts over a year old (the longest time frame in Snyder's prediction range) dead wrong. Driving people insane with these unrelenting articles about global failure is very encouraged by the author as well..."please do not hesitate to spread these articles wherever you would like. I want as many people as possible to read them. Hopefully the things I write are helping a few more people to wake up."

The only ones to survive are the ones believing in the mantra of 3 G's (Gold, Guns, and God). If you don't have enough of the products to survive the shit hitting the fan, you can always click any of the links at the top of the main page to buy it!

Recently it seems apparent that Snyder has begun to realize his original blog has started to gain a long history of mocking reviews and refutations. He has created 2 clones of The Economic Collapse Blog called End of the American Dream and The Most Important News. These pages post the exact same pages and articles as The Economic Collapse Blog, just with different names and color schemes.

The contact pages[3] have started to include Snyder's StumpleUpon account with a user name called Matthew517,[4] which strangely posts his resident state as Virgina. The StumpleUpon account posts the exact same articles as The Economic Collapse Blog series of websites.

The interests area of this account is very amusing in that it links in very large and bold letters subjects like aliens, alternative news, banking, Christian, Conservative Politics (Snyder has stated numerous times that he is "non-partisan"), end timesSurvivalism, and Swine Flu.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 08:13 | 4362061 GCT
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+100 Trader

Micheals commenters are even more nuts then he is.  I commented on that site one time debating his facts.  He tends to pull part of the facts that supports his blog, but fails to paint the whole picture.  His followers attacked me for two pages and all I did was just laugh.  I have no use for the extreme right or extreme left as both sides of the spectrum are just fringe kooks.

What people fail to understand is this can will be kicked until most here are dead and buried. 

 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 21:41 | 4365203 trader1
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the guy is just trying to "make a living" by selling fear and hysterics.

jesus shakes head.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 10:14 | 4362398 rwe2late
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 Vint Slugs

In this case, it seems you are more guilty of "cherry picking and and curve fitting" than Snyder.

California is experiencing a very severe continuing drought.

Organic food consumption is  not neglible.

[in 2010] " organic fruits and vegetables, now representing over 11 percent of all U.S. fruit and vegetable sales."
http://www.ota.com/organic/mt/business.html

As you say, "remedies can be effected" to the honeybee problem. Unfortunately, thanks to Monsanto et al, remedies are not.

Calling all Snyder's points in the article "propaganda" is hardly an argument. Especially so since since the counter-points you raised  are not substantative.

Of course, people will present data, info, etc. which supports their arguments. But it is not "cherry-picking" unless they have excluded some other highly relevant information.

Please do explain why you think why presenting the CA drought and its predictable effect on the food supply as a serious issue/threat is "propaganda".

One need not agree or disagree with all Snyder's beliefs, or anyone else's ranging from Fidel Castro to John Bolton to examine their arguments and factually either refute or concur with them.

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 18:12 | 4369187 michael63636
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ZH can do a lot better than this tripe.

 

Man UP! You do better.  You criticized him, so now you do a better article.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:14 | 4361424 MeBizarro
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At some point in the next 20-25 years, consuming prime cuts of red meat (cattle) is going to become a luxury in the US like it was historically and out of the reach of most Americans on a regular basis. 

Hell, red meat (cattle) didn't become a staple in US households until after WW2 and most of American history was dominated not by cattle or poultry but by swine when they consumed animal protein.  Pigs would fatten up all year, be slaughtered in the fall, and could be preserved by a couple of different methods before refrigeration including pickling, smoking, and salting. 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:20 | 4361450 notadouche
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"At some point..."  When I saw Filet Mignon at my local butcher selling for 30 bucks per lb I thought that WAS the point you are predicting in a couple of decades.  These weren't even the most choice and not on either coast but more the middle of the country.  I can't imagine what filet is going for in NY.  

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:25 | 4361462 MeBizarro
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That is a very expensive price unless it is grass-fed beef/non-GMO and Filet Mignon isn't a cut that is representative of what i was necessarily talking about either.  Always been a very expensive cut because it is by far the smallest portion of a slaughtered cow.  Even tenderloin is alot more plentiful in terms of pounds per slaughtered calf.  

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:30 | 4361478 notadouche
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Yeah, and it's up from 23.99 from the summer and again I"m talking middle america, not the coasts and no it's not grass fed. I happen to know it comes from one of those feed lots in Kansas City which makes it that much more unappealing and unbelievable price wise.  

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 23:33 | 4361491 MeBizarro
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I have to go the butcher to check but yeah beef prices have gone up since the summer as cattle futures have increased.  Still using filet mignons as respresentative of meat prices isn't apt though and what I was talking about. 

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