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This Is What A Central Bank Losing Control Looks Like

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With chatter that over $3 billion has been thrown into the FX market to buy Turkish Lira, it appears the central bank is losing control quickly and Turkish stocks are tumbling. The Turkish Lira collapse almost 400 pips this morning to around 2.30 to the USD - an all-time record low as the combination of corruption, social unrest, and Fed taper are seeing hot money outflows faster than the Turkish Central bank can keep control. This is the biggest tumble in the Lira in almost 5 months as the Istanbul 100 (stocks) drops 2.9% - its biggest drop in a month; and Turkish bond yields are backing up to 2-year highs.

  • *TURKEY FX SALES TODAY REACHED $3B: HSBC CITES `MARKET PLAYERS'
  • *TURKISH LIRA WEAKENS PAST 3.15 AGAINST EURO IN ISTANBUL
  • *TURKISH LIRA WEAKENS TO NEW RECORD 2.3029 PER DOLLAR
  • *BORSA ISTANBUL 100 INDEX FALLS 2.9% TO 65,429.29 AT THE CLOSE
  • *TURKEY 2YR BOND YIELDS RISE TO 10.50%, HIGHEST SINCE JAN. 2012

 

Green arrows show central bank efforts to control the chaos...

 


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Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:43 | Link to Comment OldPhart
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Buy the plucking dip!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:47 | Link to Comment InjectTheVenom
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I love the smell of central bank turmoil in the morning !

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:48 | Link to Comment Vampyroteuthis ...
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The CBs around the world are like the Dutch boy putting his finger in the North Sea dike. The problem is there are holes everywhere and not enough fingers.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:54 | Link to Comment joego1
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The Fed has a secret plan to use Christies ass to plug our holes.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:00 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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But, so many holes...  Granted, they could plug ONE BIG ONE w/ Christie!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:07 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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Soro's must be in there whipsawing the ass raping to such a degree that I'm not sure we'll be able to save the victim this time.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:16 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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Dow off 200, gold up 20+ and still no ZH article declaring "This is it, boys!  This is the big one!  We're going over!  Everyone hold on!"

Disappointing.  Almost like the Tylers have lost to will to live or something.  Doncha know that's the stuff I come here for?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:24 | Link to Comment kliguy38
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That's because it ISN'T the end.......its been over for several years now and this is just an illusion for the sheep..........you're livin' on air......don't look down

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:32 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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Jeeze, first ZH is accused of being doom and gloomer keeping the little people out of the market and denying them of a chance to reap the whirlwind, and now they're being accused of not be doomy and gloomy enough.

You're damned if you fuck her in the ass, and sent to prison if she's under sixteen if you don't, there's no catch 22 here folks, just move along.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:50 | Link to Comment BigJim
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You must admit the 'And so it begins:' headlines have been a bit thin of late.

I always liked those. Even when 'it' never actually began.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 16:36 | Link to Comment Manthong
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..does the well roasted Turkey come with gravy?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:49 | Link to Comment El Vaquero
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Long Turkish Pinksocks. 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:06 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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He'll clog the pipes like Augustus Gloop in the Chocolate Factory.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:23 | Link to Comment Renewable Life
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That's a big hole!!

What's even more exciting, is the prospect of all these global elites who have been made to think they were supermen by Benny Big Bucks, are about to feel some fear again!!

Watch out, there is no honor among thieves, they will turn on each other in minutes, if TSHTF!!!!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Boris Alatovkrap
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BTFBLT!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 16:40 | Link to Comment Manthong
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?? f'n BLT?

what does bacon have in common with turkey.. outside of some possible consensual barnyard encounters?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 19:03 | Link to Comment Boris Alatovkrap
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"BLT" is popular sandwich in America, no? Bacon, Lettuce, Turkey, yes? Is Boris make of epicurean faux pas acronymn?

Sun, 01/26/2014 - 13:09 | Link to Comment Jonas Parker
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Well done Boris! You'll fit right in here!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:58 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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If you like your central bank, you can keep your central bank! 

But seriously, this is a bad thing for Middle East tensions with Turkey getting moar stressed out economically they won't take any shit from their whacko neighbors just to their south!

Turkey is heavily armed with some of the most modern military gear. They also manufacture munitions for many foreign nations. And they are long time allies with Germany.

So watch out if Turkey goes on the march into Syria if there's any border attacks against them.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:07 | Link to Comment Canucklehead
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If you look at logistics, Turkey is a paper tiger.  They may go into Syria, but they won't be able to do much in there.  Germany, Russia, et al would back Syria and the US would sit on the fence.

If you think Turdogan has problems now, wait until he starts a war he can't finish...

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:33 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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As long as there's no endless corrupt UN mission, or NATO thing created out of this there's some hope.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:58 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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Like any priest would say: IF YOU SEE A HOLE, PUT YOUR DICK INTO IT!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:00 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Stop giving them ideas!

:)

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:10 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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As the famous line goes, "Never let a pre-pubesant rectumory go to waste!"

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 16:44 | Link to Comment Manthong
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stop giving them ideas ( :-) ...  we are all Jesuits now.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:21 | Link to Comment PTR
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Travelling salesman walks into a bar in a rural town, sits down and orders a beer.  

As he's nursing his frothy friend after a long, hard day, he see a machine at the end of the bar with a sign that says "Let me be your wife- $.50" with a hole underneath the sign.  

He looks around at the other few patrons, then asks the bartender, "Do guys really use that machine?"

Barteneder replies, "Yeah, from time to time," and goes about his work.

So the salesman sits and contemplates for a moment, then decides what the hell.

He goes to the machine, unzips his fly, sticks his dick in, and deposits $.50.

Suddenly, there's a blood-curdling yell resonating in the bar.  The bartender rushes over to the salesman and the machine and asks, "You alright pal?  The machine break on you or something?"

The salesman replies, "No, the machine works fine, but I didn't realize it was going to sew a goddamn button to my cock!"

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:13 | Link to Comment Bangin7GramRocks
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"So many little holes, so few fingers." -Bill Conlin

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:50 | Link to Comment LukeWorm
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I love the smell of smoked Turkey in the morning ;-)

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:08 | Link to Comment Crash Overide
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Turkey has been around for a while, even before central banking. They will be fine...

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:38 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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Well there are two turkeys. One is dying out. The secular westernized state of Kemal Atataturk. The ascendant one is backward and Islamic. They've been outbreeding the western secular educated bunch for a long time and that's what is doing Turkey in socially and economically. It is redescending into tyranny. Has redescended. It's not coming back out either. The momentum downward is all in the demographics.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:37 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Wait & see.  The Turkish stock exchange is well known (by the informed) that it is volatile. 

It can have tremendous gains in a year, and almost equally tremendous drops.  Hedge/invest accordingly.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:50 | Link to Comment Bearwagon
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Thar she blows!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:52 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Yes you can!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:55 | Link to Comment onewayticket2
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"if you like your exchange rate, you can keep it!"

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:57 | Link to Comment Mesquite
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Hey, any excuse to get the mkt off the ceiling will do...

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:36 | Link to Comment mclant004
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Does Turkey have an economy and a debt position to recover from this or is it another Greece?

Dont know much about the country except it has a big army and its in a dangerous part of the world!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 15:25 | Link to Comment americanspirit
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Hi mclant004 - good questions. Turkey will not be another Greece. Lots of reasons. There is a huge and viable middle class - extraordinary literacy rates, huge small business community, lots of very strong towns with their own financial resources ( eg tax base). The army is professional,and by and large respects the constitution - not a bunch of thugs in uniforms. They sit on top of huge mineral resource reserves, and they contrl vast fresh water resources. Their agricultural sector is very strong. They control a hugely strategic waterway - international trade. And they have lots of gold. Those are just a few points in Turkey's favor. Of course, a really determined set of central bankers with assistance from the likes of JPM and GS can destroy any country.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:43 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Gold, bitchez!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:56 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes, + $20 or so today alone.

So many great places NOT to invest (China, Turkey)!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:43 | Link to Comment wisehiney
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They had better go hide out in the "strong" dollar and "safe" US treasuries.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:54 | Link to Comment BigJim
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Loves me some of that green paper. You can't go wrong with a piece of paper adorned with a dead President!

OT - isn't having Andrew Jackson's visage on central bank derived currency just the bestest bit of monetary  irony? Of all the presidents to choose, I'll bet that gave the Rothschilds the most pleasure. Take that, killer of the 2nd National Bank of the US!

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Cursive
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The last 12 years have been a slow motion train wreck.  It looks like the horizon is approaching faster now, though....

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:54 | Link to Comment Save_America1st
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and the deepest mother F'er of all cliffs is on the other side of that fast approaching horizon. 

Me thinks Hell is waiting at the bottom of that pit.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:59 | Link to Comment teolawki
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Nah. Hell is just a pit stop on the way down.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:45 | Link to Comment firstdivision
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Its time to buy SPY and sell USO, though someday soon it'll be sell both.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:45 | Link to Comment youngman
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Its that word ....FAITH....its all these paper money economies have left..lose that and you lose it all

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:56 | Link to Comment eclectic syncretist
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Amen to that brother.  When people start to wonder if this shell game is being played without a ball, which it is, the game is worthless.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Calculus99
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Corruption folks, this is what happens when the curtain is finally pulled back.

The sad thing is that EVERYONE knew there was monkey business being carried out behin the curtain but as things were ok at  that moment there was no need to look.

Sound familiar?

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:45 | Link to Comment cliffynator
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Didn't the last two World Wars start in Turkey?

Just sayin'...

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:56 | Link to Comment LukeWorm
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WW One : "immediate trigger for war was the 28 June 1914 assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir to the throne of Austria-Hungary, by Yugoslav nationalist Gavrilo Princip in Sarajevo."

WW Two : " is generally said to have begun on 1 September 1939 with the invasion of Poland by Germany and subsequent declarations of war on Germany by France and the United Kingdom."

Just checking  (Wikipedia) ...

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:59 | Link to Comment Mesquite
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All planned out in 1871....

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:36 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

 

Albert Pike

 

Although I personaly don't believe Pike's letter was authentic.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:45 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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The looneynaughties again! Where will they strike next!?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:11 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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I have to admit it has an interesting sound: "unleash the Nihilists!". though I'm at loss what the "pure doctrine of Lucifer" is supposed to be

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:55 | Link to Comment BigJim
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Do nihilists have large, firm breasts? If so, count me in.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 15:39 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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I believe that makes you Luciferian, who, according to the late panafrican prophet Sammy Davis Jr., are "just a bunch of cats tryin' to get laid, man."

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:16 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Pike reads like a run-on sentence.

The part about "disillusioned with Christianity" did resonate though.  Both Jews and Islamists are doing circles around dumb-ass 'Christians'.  Clearly the latter faith needs to evolve or die.

/ If you like your "blessed are the poor and the meek", you can keep your blessed poor and meek.  If you like to "turn the other cheek" (which set?), you can keep turning the other cheek.  If you like to love those who hate your guts, you can keep loving them.  If you like being used by them, you can keep being used by them. If you like being a sheep in his flock, you can keep being sheep in his flock.  Just remember all the things they do to sheep:  daily milking, regular shagging, periodic shearing, and inevitable butchering.  But, hey, they 'butcher' (take you out) you in style, so that the quality of the assets don't deteriorate for the next beneficiary.  Did you get that butcher/banker metaphor?

IOW, where's this "Yeshua of Nazareth", so I can kick his ass?  Or, speaking of cultural fantasies and mainstream myths, why don't I just stun his hippie ass with my Phaser, or confine him and his smelly (fishing, herding, tax-collecting), marginalized, bottom-feeder friends to a Holodeck? / sarc

Sorry folks, but I know way too much and have seen too much to allow my childhood brainwashing regarding some 2,000-4,000 year old (constantly morphing) stories, to dictate my life.  I submit to you, that we can ALL do a lot better, in terms of "Our Life's Meaning" or Personal & Social Ethics, than relying on or being enslaved by the text from long-dead people, who were semi-literate and of 'questionable hygiene'.  Christ, my 5th and 7th grade kids know more, and I don't see anyone worshiping them -- even though they sometimes act like they should.

I shall close with this to ponder: "To give up all myths, illusions and pretenses, is the beginning of wisdom, and the first step to inner freedom -- which is the only true freedom anyway".  Peace.

-Kirk out

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:00 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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Somewhere not far from there.  All those countries look the same to me.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:47 | Link to Comment teolawki
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This will be bullish for Turkish exports, right?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:28 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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That's too subtle a comment for this thread, but I got a chuckle.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:58 | Link to Comment BigJim
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Yes, nothing like a collapsing currency to supercharge the health of an economy!

Rational economic calculation becomes so much easier when you have no idea how much everything is going to cost next week.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:50 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Hey guys hurry up with that new world currency will ya? This thing is coming apart at the seams.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:09 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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That New world order looks pretty disorderly to me....

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:50 | Link to Comment BandGap
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@Cliff, no the last two WW did not start in Turkey, but they are willing to learn.

Can anyone explain what is it is the bank is trying to do? What can they do?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:58 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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Central banks only know one trick: print money.  If you hear them talking about anything other than printing money, they are lying.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:58 | Link to Comment Ivanovich
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They can raise rates 100bps right away as starters.  The problem is they've been bowing to the political side of the equation because elections are coming up in March.  They won't even make it to the end of next week, let alone March, if they don't raise rates.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:20 | Link to Comment BandGap
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Thank you.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:32 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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@ BG

It all comes down to Turkey shedding its allegiance to BandarBush (SA- Saudi Arabia) and joining the Putin 'Darwinianism Providence' of natural selection? Indeed... time waits for no one and fluidity is a quasi-evolutionary process that holds the key to ones survival?  

This means washing its hands of SA (an to a lesser extent Qatar which started all the BS to begin with) and affirming its commitment to the Muslim Brotherhood (MB/ 100%) whatever the Saudi's have in mind (revenge) for them via threats by USSA's proxy  Gulen`Movement! These religious fanatics are stooges, that threaten a cohesive Turkey with total 'Sharia (jihadist) Law',... disbanding a fledgling secular government at best since 2001!?!

WoW! I'm sorry for the long way around for explaining what it is the CB is trying to do!  Simply put, energy is a huge factor in a emerging economies GDP. SA has helped Turkey with its current deficit for years. Well, SA has cut the $$$`Umbilical Cord, seeing that Erdogan wants nothing to do with the Syrian Civil War in which he was partially(?!) responsible for turning a blind eye, and MOAR!!! to BandarBush's `al Nursas' al Qaeda', on the Syrian/Turkey border, and Iraqi's border with Syria via ISIl al Qaeda (what the USSA call the good al Qae[cia]da?). Thus we have the Gold-4-Oil scandal with Iran, circumventing via loophole-a-mania BS... which means nothing IMHO! The bottom line is the BIS/ Basel/FRB's and TPTB want to make sure the energy hub of EuroAsia is not an independent entity... thus the squeese to put in their cronies! Putin sees thru it as does China and Iran!!!                                                            

Check out Bilderberg's 2013 attendees. Also if time  Turkey's freindship with non-sunni neighbors such as Iraq and Iran-- both shiite!

Ref:    "'Energy Profile of Turkey"    1st published 7/10/07 --- now ~6yrs. later updated 5/13/13

http://www.eoearth.org/view/article/152537/

 and the facts about Turkey ie. Info/Data          http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/infoCountryPage/setimes/resource_centre/countries/turkey?country=Turkey   

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:54 | Link to Comment Took Red Pill
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This Turkey is cooked! Or maybe it needs a little Greece.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:01 | Link to Comment BigJim
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I'm pretty sure some of those 'Greek' islands parked just off the Turkish coast 'historially' belong to the Turks... a REAL Turkish patriot would liberate them tomorrow, it will be discovered.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 11:54 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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better one day to late than 2 year early on goldbuying right?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:03 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Only Americans think that way my friend.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:38 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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Some Brits have a penchant for selling at the bottom.

Stupidity is international....

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:00 | Link to Comment PlausibleDenial
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2.30 Lira to the USD.  Wow, I am not sure if is inflation or corruption, but in the eary 70's I was stationed outside of Instanbul.  Exchange rate was ~14 Lira to  1 USD.   Damn, I felt rich.... 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:09 | Link to Comment Ivanovich
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Was a different Lira.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:01 | Link to Comment Conax
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I spent a (bizarre) year there in 1982-3.  I remember the cheap lira, too.

That is one ca-razy country, especially around Ramadan time.  I never felt more foreign.  They are Turks, and that means anything can happen, and often does.  I saw a brawl break out over who gets to man the grill in the chow hall.  They are some scrappy muffuhs, and pissed off most of the time.  They stab each other in the ass with stubby daggers when crossed, and it's pretty much legal.

Their banksters better have kevlar underwear on when the SHTF there.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:04 | Link to Comment BigJim
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In my experience, they're amazingly nationalistic, and revere Ataturk to the point of worship. And they have a real chip on their shoulder about the whole Armenian genocide thing.

Great food and hot women, though, and some amazing historical sites.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:00 | Link to Comment vyeung
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revenge by the Fed. I wouldn't worry too much, China/Russia/Middle Eastern powers will make sure of that.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:25 | Link to Comment Alea Iactaest
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I was thinking, "this is what war looks like."

My guess is it's payback for selling too much gold (for oil) to Iran. What should have been a $20Bn backdoor deal turned into a $120Bn deal.

Whoops.

Now time for "problem/solution" as the Fed comes to the "rescue."

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:03 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Time for Turkey to become a subsidary of the  Goldman Sack

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:09 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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If the bank collapses the fun starts. Somebody will bail out Turkey. The US/EU basically has no choice because if they don't Russia will and Turkey falls to the influence of the BRICS. Russia bailing out Turkey is an investment not a charity move because controlling Turkey locks up absolute control of the Eastern European gas market once they control the Nabucco. Their grip is basically iron tight, they call all the shots at that point. You understand why Turkey is so important strategically for the EU/US, the gas curtain then decends over Eastern Europe this time around instead of the Iron Curtain in the last incarnation.

If this happens I guarantee a shooting match breaks out over it.

If the EU doesn't implode on it's own assuming the Russians can hold Turkey, they won't be bringing any new Eastern European countries into the fold once this happens and probably lose some member states in the region over time as Russia uses it's gas dominance to dictate policy in the region.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:15 | Link to Comment Calculus99
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Yes, Putin must be loving this.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:07 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Now to put a few things in context who the real invisible hand that causing the problems and stirring the shitpot in this region. It is not the joos, it is not the US, it is not the Sauds and it is not the Qatari.

As they say in Latin to cui bono - to who's benefit. Well it is obviously Russia's benefit in relation to gas and dominance into Eastern Europe.

The other saying qui habet amittat - Who has the most to lose, the EU does specifically the technotwats in Brussels. They are the real invisible hand behind all this and I'll explain why.

Whether they can hold onto Turkey or not Syria is crucial to get Assad out and get the Arab gas pipeline hooked into the Nabucco. Once it is hooked in it is hooked in, the Russians will allow the gas to flow so it gives them some say at the table. Qatar and the Sauds still get to sell their gas to the EU same with Egypt whether they can hook into Nabucco or not it just routes west through Northern Africa and up through Italy and Spain, areas where Putin and Russia have no control. Ask yourself cui bono and qui hebt amittat.

How does Cyprus and Greece play into this. That is the Kenyesian insurance scorched earth monetary policy (like Russia burning fields ahead of Germans marching through Russia in WWII) just in case they lose Turkey for 2 reasons. They burned the places to the ground to get Russian money out and if they lose Turkey, it costs more to rebuild both than the Aphrodite gas field is worth if the Russians can expand influence it those 2 next plus it sets them back in time to keep expanding influence into the Balkan states. If they don't get Turkey then broken window Kenyesian economy policy, rebuild everything you burnt to the ground. But those genius technotwats like diesel-go-boom almost burnt the whole EU banking system to ground with trying to violate EU depositor insurance in the process.

So with that said if Turkey falls to Russia and they can hold it total warfare policy to keep Russia from whittling away the EU and influence in Eastern Europe shifts to Bulgaria next. Expect scorched earth monetary policy to follow the route of the Nabucco for EU member states same holds true for Balkans unless they have any other tricks up their sleeves or decide to pull out the and hold them at bay in a more traditional manner. The policy should follow in front of the route of Russian influence as it expands.
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/map/

Qui hebt amittat in that region when the Russians control the gas market outright including EU member nations in the same region? The EU technotwats in Brussels have the most to lose. Money is control but energy is power. You can't have control without power.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:09 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Another thing to put in context is Erdogen complaining about the FED tapering QE as the problem. That wasn't jawboning that was a threat, pay up with an implied or else.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:06 | Link to Comment Save_America1st
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Maybe Turkey needs to fire or re-assign all their banksters too?  Worked for the police, judges, and lawyers, right?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:08 | Link to Comment Sufiy
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Gold Jumps As Mother Of Short Squeeze Arrives


Gold jumps today more than 2% and is up now $28 to $1265 level. The real fireworks will be started after Gold cuts through $1270. Few news appear to be behind the move: another set of rumours of relaxing Gold import policy in India, bad economic data from China with PMI below 50 and pumped rumours in the western press about coming default in one of the shadow banking system products. US markets are sharply down today on Jobless claims and dismal Existing Homes Sales.    But the real story is US Dollar which is almost in a free fall and is crossing 80.60 level to the downside. This time we have the normal correlation and falling US Dollar is sending Gold to confirm its break out from 2013 Double Bottom at $1180. http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/gold-jumps-as-mother-of-short-squeez...


There Is No German Gold Left At The New York FED GLD, MUX, TNR.v, GDX

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:14 | Link to Comment Calculus99
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As I said the other day - did you know that Turkey's in Turkey are called 'American Birds'?

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:08 | Link to Comment BigJim
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Did you know American birds in Turkey are called easy?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 15:50 | Link to Comment TPTB_r_TBTF
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A Turkey is the opposite of a Virgin

 

cause the turkey received the stuffing.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:17 | Link to Comment Clowns on Acid
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...But but.. Turkey is a muslim country... they don't go bust.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:18 | Link to Comment Dull Which
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It's only a dozen or so years ago that the OLD Turkish Lira was in the millions to the $ and falling very fast so they simply issued the NEW Turkish lira and, what's the phrase? Ah yes, kicked the can down the road

 

Oddly enough, Oanda still has TRL as a currency at 2.255million to the $ and the TRY (new one) at 2.255 to the $. What's a million among friends?

 

 

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:22 | Link to Comment Dan The Man
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Happy Tyler hasn't devoted time n space to justin beiber's arrest.  Please continue to be the oasis.  the mass media are going to forget to cover anything else for a while.

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 12:54 | Link to Comment Son of Captain Nemo
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And just like the leadership change in Egypt what the Western elite does with you when they no longer have a need...

http://investmentwatchblog.com/sibel-edmonds-explains-the-cias-reverse-engineering-of-erdogan/

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:35 | Link to Comment Straw Dog
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Cold Turkey

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 13:49 | Link to Comment ghostzapper
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So . . . . . . explain to me again how there is just simply no way entire countries either formally or through market forces adopt Bitcoin as their national currency.  It'll never happen because some guys in the ZH comments section said it wasn't going to happen.  

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:28 | Link to Comment PTR
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So this time the tipping point is Turkey, eh?

Thu, 01/23/2014 - 14:46 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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