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Ukrainian Protesters Chant "Yankees Go Home"; Klitschko Warns Of "More Deaths"

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Ukrainian protesters erected more street barricades and occupied another government ministry building on Friday after the failure of crisis talks with President Yanukovich, as opposition leader Klitschko feared "more deaths" pointing to a weekend of increasingly violent protests. Reuters reports that Yanukovich's party stated "the situation has grown sharper throughout the country," and called on people to disregard the calls of "radical troublemakers" to turn out for protest rallies. Klitschko punched back, "Yanukovich has declared war on his own people. He is trying to hold on to power at the price of blood and de-stabilization of the situation in the country. He has to be stopped." The international community is getting involved with Hollande calling for "dialogue" but it is Biden's threat of "consequences" that spurred a different protest at the US embassy - "The US is behind everything that is happening in Kiev’s downtown right now."


"Not A Step Back" - warns opposition:


Via Reuters,

The problem started...

Hundreds of thousands took to the streets in the capital after Yanukovich backed away from signing a free trade deal with the European Union, which many people saw as the key to a European future, in favor of financial aid from Ukraine's old Soviet master Russia.


But the movement has since widened into broader protests against perceived misrule and corruption in the Yanukovich leadership.


Protesters have been enraged too by sweeping anti-protest legislation that was rammed through parliament last week by Yanukovich loyalists in the assembly.

and is spreading...

Yanukovich's Party of the Regions confirmed reports that two months of anti-government protests were spreading to other parts of the country, particularly the west, where "extremists" had seized regional administration buildings.

And will get worse...

Opposition leader Vitaly Klitschko, who with two other opposition leaders failed to wring any concessions from Yanukovich late last night, said the only way out of the impasse lay with international mediation.


"Any discussion of how to settle the crisis in Ukraine must take place with the involvement of the international mediators of the highest level," a statement from his Udar party quoted him as saying.


"Instead of shifting to solving the situation by common sense, Yanukovich has declared war on his own people. He is trying to hold on to power at the price of blood and de-stabilization of the situation in the country. He has to be stopped," the boxer-turned-politician said.




Masked protesters, some carrying riot police shields seized as trophies, stood guard as others piled up sandbags packed with frozen snow to form new ramparts across the road leading down into the square.




Opposition leader Vitaly Klitschko, after leaving a second round of talks with Yanukovich empty handed, late on Thursday voiced fears the impasse could now lead to further bloodshed.

But at the US embassy, a different crowd is revolting...

As 21st Cetruy Wire reports:

...a new faction of intelligent Ukrainian protesters has sprung up this week.

They see right through the covert western operation:

“The US is behind everything that is happening in Kiev’s downtown right now.”

From yesterday afternoon, this new group have begun to encircle the US Embassy in Kiev. Their demand to the US:

‘Stop meddling in our affairs, and stop sponsoring unrest mobs in our country’. 

Following John McCain’s recent trip to Kiev practicing his new brand of international racketeering by threatening the Ukraine if they did not join the EU, it seems that the real Ukrainians have finally figured out that the pro-EU mobs have been staged by a conclave of western NGO’s and ‘democracy foundations’ – the very same nest of hornets who brought on the fabled ‘Arab Spring’ to the Middle East three years ago.

The main goal for Washington and the City of London is to separate Kiev from Moscow, and thus weaken Russia’s hand in Eurasia.

For EU central bankers, the prospect of raping and privatising the Urkraine economy-  is also a big incentive.

It looks like the old tricks are no longer working. At last, the ‘colour revolution’ jig may finally be up…

A huge crowd of demonstrators has surrounded the US embassy in the Ukrainian capital of Kiev, protesting against Washington’s meddling in the country’s internal affairs.

Follow RT’s live updates.

The event was organized by Kievans for Clean City, a new pro-government activist group which has spoken out against the rioters and violence in downtown Kiev.

Several thousand demonstrators are taking part, urging the US to “stop sponsoring” mass unrests, local media reported.

“The US is behind everything that is happening in Kiev’s downtown right now. The financing is coming from over there. This has to be stopped. That is what we came out here to say to the whole world: ‘US – stop! US – there needs to be peace in Ukraine,’” said Ivan Protsenko, one of the movement’s leaders.




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Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:45 | 4363566 gafgroocK
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The a year or so??

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:47 | 4363580 zaphod
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Sorry but no, 100 years of easy FED money has softened the people to accept their new masters.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:50 | 4363585 The Juggernaut
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So it was the USA not Al Qaeda with sleeper cells around the world.


That nat. gas industry is getting a bit dirty now-a-days.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:04 | 4363653 EscapeKey
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Divide and conquor.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:05 | 4363664 gmrpeabody
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I know I've asked the question before here at ZH....,

but, can this administration get any more stupid???

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:10 | 4363683 NoDebt
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Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:28 | 4363753 James_Cole
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The US is behind everything that is happening in Kiev’s downtown right now. The financing is coming from over there. 

And the evidence of this is...? Oh wait I see, RT claims it - must be true then. 

The event was organized by Kievans for Clean City, a new pro-government (AKA RUSSIAN) activist group which has spoken out against the rioters and violence in downtown Kiev.



Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:54 | 4363880 gmrpeabody
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I think most here have figured that much out...

Doesn't mean we don't have the dumbest foriegn relations going...

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:58 | 4364205 Missiondweller
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I guess there are some sheep here who think Comrade Obama would support Democracy in the Ukraine. Perhaps they don't realize he now has "more flexibility" now that its after the election.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:43 | 4364490 ArrestBobRubin
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Proud ignorance is always so attractive

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 19:51 | 4364821 Emergency Ward
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So if RT is a Russian tool, would you suggest viewing FOX/MSNBC for unbiased reporting?

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 10:01 | 4374758 Puppet Hegemon
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For unbiased reporting you need to understand Ukrainian and watch

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:21 | 4364379 GeezerGeek
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Stupid? Or dangerously malignant?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:49 | 4363587 redpill
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Yankees go home?  I didn't know they were baseball fans in Ukraine.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:27 | 4363752 NotApplicable
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A-Rod is persona non grata everywhere these days, it seems.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:39 | 4364460 Freddie
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John McCain = global NWO troublemaker. 

Pappy Admiral McCain = scumbag who sold out the USS Liberty along with LBJ.   Who was the first to show up to help the USS Liberty?  The Russian Navy.   McCain's old man and LBJ recalled F-4's from helping the Liberty.  Scum.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 20:09 | 4364934 Tim_
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The USS Liberty Timeline

"Israeli 'flying boxcar' with Israeli markings circles Liberty at about 200 feet. Crew member Larry Weaver says, 'I was actually able to wave to the co-pilot, a fellow on the right-hand side of the plane. He waved back, and actually smiled at me.'"

"Israeli torpedo boats spot Liberty and call for an immediate air strike."

"Attack lasts approximately 22 minutes, involving 30 to 35 sorties, killing nine men and wounding around 60. Israeli pilot reports to base: 'Great, wonderful, she’s burning, she’s burning.'"

"Captain Joe Tully of the USS Saratoga acknowledges call for help, dispatches four F-4 Phantom jets, and informs Liberty that help is on the way. Within minutes U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert MacNamara orders rescue jets to return: 'Tell Sixth Fleet to get those aircraft back immediately.'"

"Because the Israeli fighters had destroyed the American flag, Captain McGonagle orders the signalman to hoist the 'holiday ensign,' the largest flag the ship has."

"[Israeli torpedo] boats launch five German-made 19-inch torpedoes at Liberty."

"After the order to 'prepare to abandon ship' comes over the loudspeaker system, the lifeboats are lowered into the water. Israeli torpedo boats move in closer and fire on them, as well as those still on deck, making them all unusable."

"'I watched with horror as the floating life rafts were riddled with holes,' recalled Lieutenant Lloyd Painter, in charge of the evacuation. Said Petty Officer Rowley, who also witnessed the event: 'They didn’t want anyone to live.'"

"Deputy Director Louis Tordella is informed by Deputy Director of Joint Reconnaissance Center, Captain Vineyard, that 'consideration was then being given by some unnamed Washington authorities to sink the Liberty in order that newspaper men would be unable to photograph her and thus inflame public opinion against the Israelis.'"

"Secretary of Defense McNamara again orders rescue planes recalled; order is confirmed by President Johnson because 'we are not going to embarrass an ally.'"

"Deputy Secretary of Defense orders that all news releases on attack are to be made in Washington."

"Rear Admiral Lawrence Geis, commander of the Sixth Fleet in the Mediterranean, protests decision to recall rescue planes to Secretary of Defense McNamara. At that point President Johnson comes on the phone and says he didn’t care if the ship sunk, he would not embarrass his allies."

"Israeli Lt. Col. Michael Bloch telephones Commander Castle that Liberty, because it was not flying a flag, had been mistaken for the Egyptian supply ship El Queseir."

USS Liberty vs. El Queseir - displacement

USS Liberty vs. El Queseir - profile

"Liberty arrives in Malta. Total news blackout imposed. Rear Admiral Kidd warns crew: 'You are never, repeat never, to discuss this with anyone, not even your wives. If you do, you will be court-martialed and will end your lives in prison or worse.' Secretary of Defense McNamara informs media that, 'Department of Defense will have no further comment.'"

"Secretary of State Dean Rusk tells NATO ambassadors in Luxembourg that Israel’s attack was deliberate. His remark is reported in European, but not U.S. papers."

"Later, Israel will honor Motor Torpedo Boat 203, the one that fired the deadly torpedo at the Liberty, by putting its wheel and bell on display in its naval museum, among those maritime items of which it is most proud."

"Israeli senior lead pilot approaches former Congressman Pete McCloskey and admits that he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack."

"Columnists Evans and Novak publish interview with Dwight Porter, U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon in 1967, in which Porter says that during or immediately after the attack on the Liberty the CIA station chief showed him transcripts of intercepted Israeli messages. One has Israel ordering the attack on the Liberty, another has an Israeli pilot replying it’s an American ship. When the order to attack is repeated, the pilot insists he can see the American flag. The pilot is told again: 'Attack it.'"

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:52 | 4363584 nuclearsquid
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Wow this certainly follows a clearly defined pattern.  MSM tells us all that this all over some local political dispute, like should Ukraine have closer ties to Russia or the EU.  But then twitter pictures always show protesters surrounding the US Embassy.  

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:40 | 4363805 dark pools of soros
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Ukraine understands independence

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 19:07 | 4364758 LibertarianMenace
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More like no single political entity inside the country can control it. Gotta hand it to their pols, though, for not

seeing that playing the west against the east (remaining independent) is the way to go.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 20:02 | 4364912 Ghordius
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"should Ukraine have closer ties to Russia or the EU."

it started this way. MSM ineeds time to digest complex situations. and gets easily distracted. and journalism those days is... below standard

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:59 | 4363631 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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One can wish.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:26 | 4363744 SDShack
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In Ukraine, the true protesters are fighting against corruption. In the US, the serfs support and vote for corruption. Real change won't happen in the US until the masses are starving in the streets. Nothing short of that will invoke any meaningful change. It will have to get worse, much much worse before it gets better in the US. Unfortunately by then, the chaff will be safely confined to Fema camps and Big Brother Security will control the serfs so effectively revolt is impossible. The New Feudal World Order is fast approaching.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:29 | 4363761 NotApplicable
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Thing is, fighting against corruption only fuels further corruption, as a violence-based society has no other alternatives.

Divide and Conquer 101.

The only true solution is the delegitimization of the power that corrupts, by refusing to accept is as a valid social structure. Ala, the revolution of the mind.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:49 | 4363849 SDShack
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All forms of govt other then a true democratic republic are essentially violence (coercion)-based societies. This stems from the natural law of survival of the fittest. Humans are essentially pack animals, so the same animal instincts apply. The revolution of the mind as you speak is the only way to move beyond that animal instinct. Unfortunately, history has shown that this is temporary. Even the best democratic republics are eventually corrupted by the same animal instincts that rise up and eventually destroy it. Human history is littered with examples of great societies that rose and fell. Now is no different.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:43 | 4364123 Spanky
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Well said.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:42 | 4364115 Spanky
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The only true solution is the delegitimization of the power that corrupts... -- NotApplicable

A deliberate and considered revocation our consent to be governed (by these corrupt bastards) in such a way as to leave no doubt as to the political will of the citizenry.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:41 | 4364111 Rafferty
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"Real change won't happen in the US until the masses are starving in the streets."

I've maintained this for years. Unassing them from their teevees will be one hell of a job.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:46 | 4364142 Spanky
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They've got to get up for chips and soda sometime...

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 21:47 | 4365218 Gohn Galt
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"In Ukraine, the true protesters are fighting against corruption. In the US, the serfs support and vote for corruption. Real change won't happen in the US until the masses are starving in the streets. Nothing short of that will invoke any meaningful change. It will have to get worse, much much worse before it gets better in the US. Unfortunately by then, the chaff will be safely confined to Fema camps and Big Brother Security will control the serfs so effectively revolt is impossible. The New Feudal World Order is fast approaching."

In America, homeless serfs are already being swepted away to FEMA camps. 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:26 | 4363746 williambanzai7
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Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:31 | 4363765 NoDebt
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You'd never believe those are all women in their early 30s. 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:53 | 4363871 pods
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Those are some paint peeling stares right there.  


Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:54 | 4364178 SilverDOG
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I know that photo was taken @ the 2013 Chinkle Races.

But, what country is THAT !

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:43 | 4364132 Loucleve
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I would hope, but wont hold my breath.  Too many sheeple.

This is classic SOROS.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:46 | 4363574 Ignatius
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"Yankees Go Home"


The (global) South rises again.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:58 | 4363627 Whoa Dammit
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We've said that in the South for quite a few years now. Note to Ukrainians : So far it hasn't worked.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:43 | 4363818 SAT 800
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The Ukrainians have a special way of saying "go Home". They only say it once; then the talking part is done. Ask a survivor from the SS Panzer Division that was supposed to just run over the Ukraine in WW11. But how does an un-armed civilian population resist a Panzer Division? Simple you steal their weapons and ammunition from their corpses and use them. But it's not exactly, easy.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:06 | 4363929 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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Or you can pray to the winter god's for a miracle.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 12:27 | 4375423 Puppet Hegemon
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-30C during winter is no miracle in Ukraine.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:48 | 4364158 Spanky
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I wrote exactly that, yankees go home, in another thread and got downvoted. How'd you do that?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:47 | 4363575 GVB
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What a mess!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:48 | 4363582 Winston of Oceania
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What is new about a communist flag? All these "ism's" one of em has just gotta save us all...

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:56 | 4363619 Anusocracy
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Panarchism = freedom of choice in government.

The opposite of the total sham called democracy and its controlled voting.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:06 | 4363658 Skateboarder
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It's another one of life's ultimate ironies to not realize that forced submission to one system is slavery, even if 'choices' are allowed within that one system.

Being unable to choose governance makes you chattel. Why people rebel against this fact can be attributed to education and programming.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:57 | 4363885 Matt
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You had me, right up until "without being forced to move from their current locale". How in the world can you have a government with millions of fragmented jurisdictions all over the world, without soveriegn access?

Wed, 01/29/2014 - 23:59 | 4383099 Anusocracy
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There are already "fragmented jurisdictions all over the world".

There would be many, many more and they would have much less control.

Sat, 01/25/2014 - 01:23 | 4365778 2¢Wurth
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It's a Nazi flag with a Hammer and Sickle in the center.  Best of both worlds.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:49 | 4363583 LawsofPhysics
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They use dollars in Ukraine?  That doesn't sound right.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:02 | 4363903 Matt
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US Dollars are accepted pretty much anywhere in the world.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:37 | 4364091 Apeman
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In theory.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 18:18 | 4364613 Freddie
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....and for now.   Maybe not so much in the near future.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 18:21 | 4364630 post turtle saver
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if they don't take US dollars they'll take US cigarrettes... Camel and Marlboro packs work well

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:52 | 4363595 suteibu
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More foreign policy failure.  I sense a trend developing.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:55 | 4363599 the not so migh...
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they should send over some obama supportors and al-quada from Syria to counter protest, throw in john mccain for the hell of it

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:54 | 4363608 q99x2
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Don't tell them to come here. They have no home here. Send them to Washington D.C  with the rest of the world's globalist criminals

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:56 | 4363622 BAINES03
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"Klitschko punched back"

haha, nice.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:44 | 4363827 rayduh4life
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What are the odds it was a low blow?

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:58 | 4363626 CrashisOptimistic
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Ahh, the Ukraine.

Domestic oil production -- zero.

Domestic oil consumption -- 350,000 bpd at Brent $110.

BTW, that oil consumption number is down from 1 million bpd in 1990.

See, when you view these things through the prism of oil you don't get distracted by illusory things like money.  You see reality.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:57 | 4363628 Joe A
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Otpor bitchez!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:29 | 4364042 gallistic
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Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:58 | 4363632 Kaiser Sousa
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fucking banker controlled US government...

someone should have punched "McInsane" and that other female bitch diplomat in the fucking face as soon as they set foot on their soil...

fuck off US....

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:59 | 4363633 Bearwagon
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Deny, deny, deny. And of course this has nothing to do with, say, the new hypersonic drone, which is also why I can't understand how come everybody is talking about it. ...  ;-)

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:59 | 4363634 Beard of Zeus
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Nice. I hope they burn it down.


Here's hoping that Russian jets accidentally drop laser-guided b0mbs on the embassy.



Fri, 01/24/2014 - 18:27 | 4364654 post turtle saver
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first, you're a fucking coward... if you want to say "bombs", say "bombs"... goddamned candy ass

second, you better not wish for something because you just might get it... I cannot wait for someone like Russia or China to be stupid enough to start fucking with US embassies that overtly... go on and try it motherfuckers, see what happens

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:00 | 4363638 Frostfan1
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Hey Tyler,

Just curious why the daytime picture has like no people in it and then the nighttime picture has a bunch with an apparent snowstorm happening between day and night.  Seems  a couple hundred thousand short of the other demonstration by the way.......


Fri, 01/24/2014 - 14:59 | 4363639 maskone909
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the usa embassy is surrounded?!?  quick someone call Ben Affleck!!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:03 | 4363912 Harbanger
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Called Hillary.  She said it makes no difference.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:02 | 4363648 jtg
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“The US is behind everything that is happening in Kiev’s downtown right now" is 100% correct. Like what the US and EU did in Serbia, and tried to do to Armenia, it's the same old story. Western NGOs, US funded 'activists', covert operations, etc. Ukrainians should give the US and EU the finger.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:17 | 4363718 Thurifer
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Oh yes....because total, complete, and utter domination by the neo-Soviet Bear to the east is soooo much more preferable.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:28 | 4363760 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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If you haven't noticed the Marxists switched teams after the Berlin wall came down and Soviet Union collapsed. With said the Russians aren't into the founding fathers idea of freedom but the economics are sure as hell a lot closer to free capitalist market while the US is fast remodeling itself into the old centralling planned Soviet model with fascism on the surface to hide the remodeling job going on underneath.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:35 | 4363789 SAT 800
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Fri, 01/24/2014 - 22:15 | 4364101 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And to bolster that point commrade.

In something that resembles a free market capitalist economy this sort of thing is executed through the government using a combination of tariffs and/or excise taxes. Private sector doesn't arbitrarily decide to leave profits on the table over some little pissing match in the Ukraine to punish Russia unless those companies are being back door centrally controlled for political purposes. That is how Marxist central planning works.

Why would the US do this. I can think of about 10B reasons why

Ukraine has Europe's third-largest shale gas reserves at 1.2 trillion cubic meters (tcm).[9] There are two potentially large shale gas fields.[9] The Yuzivska field located in Donetsk Oblast (province) and Kharkiv Oblast; and the Olesska field in Lviv Oblast and Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast.[

Ukraine signed a shale gas 50-year production sharing agreement with Royal Dutch Shell on 25 January 2013 involving the Yuzivska field.[13][4] The $10 billion deal was the largest foreign direct investment ever for Ukraine.

Now what did Putin offer?

With Russia offering $10 billion in funds to the troubled nation this morning...

Also look at what provinces the Yuzivska field is located in and if they are Pro-Yanukovich who wants to align with Russia.

They have 10B+ reasons why they would want destabilize the Ukrainian government at this point.

To be fair Putin has 10B+ 50 reasons for not wanting Royal Dutch Shell developing that field. Hint look at where the gas field is situated to Russia's border and take a cue from what DHL and Fedex did for the reason why.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:35 | 4363785 SAT 800
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You have no idea what you're talking about; and it's inexcusable; you could have educated yourself on the actual conditions there and the realtions between Russia and the Ukraine which are quite reasonable.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:06 | 4364239 SilverDOG
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SAT 800


Damn straight.

Just why would a country choose its allies enemy as a friend?

Just ask JAPAN.

They will be hung out to dry all alone, in short order.

note: Japan did not choose such, but was rebuilt completely for free. Results may vary.

Just as Germany was.

The winner of borrowed money wars; pays the debt of both... to the BANK.

This time, WW3, no rebuild of the US, far to much excrement spreading it has done.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:05 | 4363921 DIgnified
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Apparently it is.  

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:36 | 4364088 toxic8
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Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:06 | 4363923 DIgnified
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Apparently it is.  

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:38 | 4364092 toxic8
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Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:24 | 4363738 SAT 800
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That's exactly correct. I'm praying, (metaphorically speaking), that they get it right and don't buy the spin. Nato bombed Libya; what a peace loving bunch, eh? This is definitely part of the Obama Manchurian Candidate syndrome; pray that it's decisively defeated. They should turn loose the Russian special forces operatives and take the cheer leaders out to the forests outside town and shoot them in the back of the head, one by one.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:06 | 4363930 Debugas
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i have to disagree

the protests are genuine, people are really tired of corruption and hardship there and they do want a change.

Actually they want someone like Stalin who would bring the order (ppl still remember there that under Stalin stealing 4 potatos would put you into prison for 4 years)

USA maybe aiding the opposition but they would fail if people were not genuinly angry

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:58 | 4364555 trader1
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does it actually matter if the protests are genuine? how much of what you see and have read is actually true/real?  are there not multiple "sides to the story"?

how do you define a genuine protest?  by source?  by means?  by outcome?

this is truly a fascinating spectacle to watch in observing how various individual and group minds react to the unfolding of a sequence of both predictable <and unpredictable> vibrations.

my only hope is that a peaceful resolution follows without great suffering and death.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:01 | 4363649 Gordon Freeman
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"Yankee go home"?!?  Jesus Christ--who the fuck is running this shindig?  The fucking Sandinistas??  

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:14 | 4363695 NoDebt
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Up arrow for being the first person in 20 years to mention the Sandinistas.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 18:31 | 4364661 Freddie
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Douchebag Bill DeBlasio aka William Wilhelm was good a stooge for the Sandanistas.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:06 | 4363662 AG BCN
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All the young Ukranian women need to be shipped to my house right now. Just for safety n that.  

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:34 | 4363778 SAT 800
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I could take some of the overflow; select 15 year olds; for English instruction, for instance.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:10 | 4363680 bugs_
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I suppose this means blaming bush is officially over for the left.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 18:44 | 4364698 Gordon Freeman
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No, that will never happen--it's enshrined in the Holy Lefty Catechism.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:11 | 4363689 zenon
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Operation Gladio - read all about it

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:24 | 4363697 Thurifer
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Utter BS... To contend that the anti-government protesters are risking their lives on the orders of TPTB in the West and not because they want a better life free of the pseudo-Tsar next door is patently ridiculous. That said, this move by Yanukovich supporters (and he does have some) is a brilliant attempt to muddy the waters.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:18 | 4363716 hound dog vigilante
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Ukranians aren't stupid.  They know oppression & corruption when they see it. 

From a historical or geopolitical perspective, it makes sense that real populism (local/individual self-determination) would become a force - or catalyst - in Ukraine.

The globalists' ability to control political/economic events has already evaporated... thus we are actually witnessing rear-guard propaganda here, with every indication that political/economic events will become evermore radical and unpredictable, as will TPTB's reaction to said events.

Time to batten-down the hatches.


Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:36 | 4363786 SDShack
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Correct, but TPTB control the entire state security forces. Putting Ukraine in context to the USA, TPTB use the NSA to spy on everyone, the IRS to extort everyone, and the DHS & FBI to coerse everyone, so revolts will be stopped before they get started. Tiananmen Square and Waco are the New Normal in how TPTB address revolts. If things get really out of hand, TPTB will use the CIA to prop up a false flag radical opposition group (ie Libya, Syria) to start a civil war in the USA with the sole purpose of using the false flag as an excuse for Shock & Awe to bomb their own citizens to oblivion "to protect the people". Prepare accordingly.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:56 | 4363878 hound dog vigilante
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I should amend the post above... we are witnessing rear-guard propaganda & black-ops here...  as per the new normal that you've described.

I tend to discount the reach/potential of "state security forces", especially here in the US.  When the SHTF (and it will), I don't believe NSA/DHS/FBI/CIA etc. will be able to enforce the sort of martial law police state that many seem to expect... I see too many patriots among their ranks who will not follow those orders, and I see ample/cricital mass of armed/prepared citizens willing to resist if they try.  The US hinterland is armed to the teeth... I pity the DHS/Nat. Guard/etc. rank-and-file that actually follow any orders to supress "radical opposition"... a civil war along these lines would not last very long, IMO.


Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:11 | 4364306 Manipuflation
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Hound dog, you seem to have an understanding of Ukraine and I agree with most of what you have to say but I think you are missing the greater point.  The globalists, let's just call them multinational bankers because that is what they are, do in fact control the situation.  It's not hard to look at western banking interests in Moscow nor is it hard to look at western banking interests in western europe.  Essentially, the two sides are fighting for the same paper provided by the same provider.

Never once in my talks with Ukranians about this matter has anyone brought up silver coins for trade.  It is through the manipulation of digitz and paper that these events are brought about almost as if on cue.  Neither side is demanding hard money.  They are demanding graft.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 19:44 | 4364856 hound dog vigilante
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"...Essentially, the two sides are fighting for the same paper provided by the same provider."

I understand your point, and you are probably correct.  But then I would pull the lens back even further and suggest that these two (corrupt) sides are merely fighting for nickels & dimes in the path of a streamroller.  The EU is devolving.  Globalisation has peaked and is now receding.  Economies around the world are contracting.  The internet is disintermediating everything.  Barter & black markets are thriving everywhere.  And now crypto-currencies are enabling borderless unregulated trade.  If multinational bankers were truly in control, then none of these developments would be allowed to happen... it is not "part of their plan".

TPTB are in reactionary mode... they are being swamped & blindsided by events that they do not control.  Our future becomes less predictable with each crisis. 

Some still insist that increasing chaos is absolutely 'part of the plan' - just some necessary bloodletting and hysterics meant to prep the sheep for NWO/one-world-government, etc.   But I think that is utter nonsense.  NWO/global socialisation under the dominion of bankers is NOT going to happen.  They came very close to such a reality, but nature & chaos are re-asserting themselves... devolution... de-growth... localisation... renewed nationalism and tribalism... this is what I am seeing through the front window every day, despite the efforts of TPTB to continue in another/opposite direction.


Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:24 | 4363723 Battleaxe
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But "sponsoring unrest mobs" is the basis of our foreign policy!!!!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:27 | 4363754 SAT 800
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Obviously. Definitely. Not our foreign policy, but Obama's foreign policy, at the behest of the old Polish guy with the un-spellable name. Zigbernewsky, or whatever. Obama is the Manchurian Candidate; but Putin knows it.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:07 | 4364247 Spanky
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Not our foreign policy, but Obama's foreign policy, at the behest of the old Polish guy with the un-spellable name. Zigbernewsky, or whatever. -- SAT 800

The old polish guy has been around a while, and this ain't his first rodeo (administration).

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:11 | 4364300 SilverDOG
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Democratic Insurgent Dipersal.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:21 | 4363727 hookah
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Haha, always these imperialists, Eatern europe had to hear that for 45 years, its sad that people still buy these shit today in Ukraine.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:21 | 4363728 Cannon Fodder
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Oh, the hypocracy.... I believe I saw on the news how John Kerry is supporting the protestors and condeming the government response. Yet, in the good 'ol USSA, even the slightest peaceful protest is met with harassment, arrest and intimidating and rules about dispearsement and can't protest here....

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:21 | 4363731 Seasmoke
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Trying to follow and understand ..... Is it saying that Klitcksko is a US puppet ?????

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:40 | 4363810 hound dog vigilante
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No, not really...  he's a noob politician, albeit a very bright/genuine example of one.  Klitschko is in a very tough spot... he may eventually have to choose sides, either populist radical or status quo politician.

Western/ethnic Ukraine is seeking closer ties with Europe, while occupied/eastern Ukraine wishes to remain a russian satellite.  While ethnic Ukrainians want to move towards Europe, they don't necessarily want to be EU members... they are trying to walk a tightrope that leads west - away from Russia.  This is really about independence and national self-determination.... but of course the media prism will spin it every which way in an attempt to minimize the possibility of a 'slavic spring' or any movement that is not directed by the CIA/corporatists/globalists.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:54 | 4364181 Manipuflation
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What the hound dog stated is accurate Seasmoke.  It is more complicated than that of course but a good start.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:27 | 4363750 hapless
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Occupy Ukraine.  Fuck Yeah!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:28 | 4363755 Billy Sol Estes
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Should have sent in some darker skinned CIA agents...

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:32 | 4363768 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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They stick out like sore thumbs in that part of the world plus they don't political correctness shuffle like here.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 18:53 | 4364723 Taffy Lewis
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If they purposely try not to look American (a la the Olympians) when they are off-duty then they'll be just fine (/sarc)

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:33 | 4363773 Thurifer
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Yes, that is what the pro-Government protesters are trying to imply. It might have something to do with his Über-hot American girlfriend.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:40 | 4363811 Duc888
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We obviously need to drop some Free-Dum bombs on them.  Oh, they need to be droned too.


We need to spread some democracy over there from 50,000 feet.


/ sarcasm

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:44 | 4363822 Son of Captain Nemo
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Opposition leader Vitaly Klitschko, who with two other opposition leaders failed to wring any concessions from Yanukovich late last night, said the only way out of the impasse lay with international mediation.

"Any discussion of how to settle the crisis in Ukraine must take place with the involvement of the international mediators of the highest level," a statement from his Udar party quoted him as saying.

I'm certain Ban Ki-Moon will be delighted to help Mr. Klitschko and his paid for Western agitators and thugs with this requestJust ask Syria's Ambassador to the UN how hard it is to speak the truth against Western foreign interests that have decimated his Country for more than 3 years???  This is an epic speech given presented at the UN this week that has gotten absolutely no attention by the MSM in it's entirety.

Is it possible that Ukranians from the West and South are actually this stupid understanding World events and what chaos the West particularly their backers in the U.S. have already sewed in the Middle East and Africa over the last 12 years???

Guess so!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:43 | 4364122 Manipuflation
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You are getting closer Nemo.  I don't think Ukrainians are stupid at all and I know a lot of them.  It's a lesser of two evils thing yet again but what they seem to fail realize is that it is the same source of evil that beguiles us all.  You know, just like most folks we know.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:18 | 4364328 Son of Captain Nemo
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Lesser of two evils? ...

Then if that's the case, the real money and the future of Ukraine is parked next door with the neighbor that has the real money "backed by something" that has a genuine store of value.

Do Ukranians posing with an ex-pat like Klitschko who is probably a millionaire, pays his taxes to Germany just like U.S. Senator(s) John McCain and Lindsey Graham receive handouts from the NGOs as paid for shills toincite riots  standing on rubble through vandalism they themselves created -understand the difference?  Do they understand where the U.S. economy is in 2014 it's "condition" and what the incentives will be for sticking with it verus a more stable and prosperous economic future with their Russian neighbor next door? If anyone from a foreign government came into my Country handed me a foreign currency and told me they were my friend now lets destroy your leadership and "start over" -needless to say I'd have my reservations about those "outsiders".  Wouldn't you?

The fact that we have U.S. Representatives violating international law causing the destruction of someone elses property and lives is bad enough. But you would have to be beyond desperate to contemplate siding with Western foreign interests that are creating the conditions for your own rapid demise and know that what they are giving you in return in the form of lip service, worthless USD and another heroin fix is at best a short term solution that represents an end and not a beginning!

If the U.S. Government and EU have an economic plan for Ukraine that creates jobs and a real future I'd love to hear about it? As I've said to you previously the ones that are here in the U.S. and are smart enough to understand have realized for some time that the opportunities as advertized through the Western banks aren't real just like their U.S. counterparts also realize that truth!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 18:05 | 4364578 Manipuflation
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Nemo, you read what you wanted read in my reply to you.  If you read a few more of my posts you will see that I support neither side because they are the same side.  If you convert government representives to banking representives things become a lot more clear.

"Do Ukranians posing with an ex-pat like Klitschko who is probably a millionaire".  I agree with you on this.  It's all too perfect isn't it?  A national sports figure?  Yet now we have an "opposition crowd"?  Talk about kabuki theater. 

Much like the democrats vs republicans in the U.S. political races, some Ukrainians may not yet realize they are fighting against one another in an attempt to achieve the same end.  Graft.  The two sides of the matter are both owned by the same banks. 

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 19:44 | 4364855 Son of Captain Nemo
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So tell me Manipuflation which economy and future would you rather be a part of if you are a Ukrainian Nationalist?

Would you rather be part of an economy that has morphed it's entire economic prosperity of the last 3 decades and sold itself out to a MIC that has given away all of it's significant commerical technology to a labor force in China and India with that "prosperity" working and living out of the sweatshops they occupy 24/7 that have some of the lowest wages and highest suicide rates in the World?

Question: Would the Ukraine be the recipient of some of these low wage jobs in an EU deal? And if so, how cost competitve would they be to the Asian workforce that already has those jobs working for U.S. and European manufacturers?

Question: Is Russia doing this to it's people and selling all it's best technology to find the cheapest sources of labor in other parts of the World like the U.S.?...


Question: Outside of Georgia in 2007, Chechnya, Dagistan (mostly due to Western intervention) much like what we are witnessing in the Ukraine. Do you see Russia sending it's military into foreign countries to invade and occupy other sovereign Nations through illegal use of force like the United States and NATO has over the last 12 years?

These are the kinds of question(s) you would think the Ukranian people might be asking themselves before they accept with blind faith a partnership from a bankrupt malevolent superpower that no longer does business with a briefcase and wallet and is no longer the biggest and most efficient energy producer, challenged competitvely as an auto, aircraft, telecommunications and computer equipment provider. 


Fri, 01/24/2014 - 20:14 | 4364952 hound dog vigilante
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I feel compelled to jump in here...

SoN, I see your point... Russia (under Putin) is going many things "right".... exploiting resources, re-building morale, preparing for a post-fiat currency economy, etc.  IOW, Ukraine's future is brightest in the east, not west (and you may well be dead-correct about that). 

But try to understand that Ukraine was a soviet satellite for many, many not-so-pleasant decades, and Ukrainians are not going to view Putin as a clever goldbug... they see him as just another KGB thug who will take away their dreams of Levi's and Starbucks.  Put yourself in the shoes on a Ukrainian who only recently has tasted the non-soviet world.  Would you want to jump back into the lap of a master that denegrated you & your family for decades?

Humans are not rational.  Humans carry deep scars and emotional baggage... we can justify and rationalize anything.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 23:29 | 4365506 Son of Captain Nemo
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You make some good arguments but to the issue of being a "soviet satellite' and the many "not-so-pleasant" decades the Ukraine shared in a post communist relationship with it's neighbor, just remember the Western Banks before, during and after 1917 that made it all possible.  Most Americans know absolutely nothing about England and U.S. involvement prior to the Bolshevik Revolution and it's not an accident that you have to dig deep in the research department to pull those nuggets of horrible truth out.

I've said this before and I'll repeat myself again on this point.  The U.S. Government in the last 20 years of the Soviet State's "deconstruction" with all it's attempts to cannabilize the productive resources of that Country like everyplace else it controls and covets has proven why they were and are so paranoid and rightfully so of the West starting with the Iron Curtain and Berlin Wall and the "missile offense shields" now in Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and "yes" Ukraine that only bolster that argument rather well.

As for "Levi's and Starbucks", I'm an American and I can honestly say that the Ukraine is probably a much better place without the likes of both along with McDonalds and KFC!


Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:51 | 4363865 Johnny Cocknballs
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It's so easy to say fuck McCain, that evil, crazy, traitorous shabbas goy globalist...

But why do the people of Arizona keep electing that batshit crazy warmonger?  I say - fuck Arizona!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:08 | 4363940 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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Him and the rest of his rino ilk were bought and paid off many years ago. Elections  <-----HA

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:20 | 4363995 Son of Captain Nemo
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Well said. 

Just remember not to blame Arizona. Remember it's the same State that gave us Pat Tillman and if he hadn't been fragged by his own, what stories he would tell the American people?

The system is rigged and I don't believe McCain has been able to serve this long because the people from his State love him. Just listen to this Marine and what he thinks of the "piece of shit"! 

I've got a number of "Johnny's" in my State that the majority hate and the constituents in their own District(s) didn't want but got them anyway because the system is rigged, rotten to it's core and has been probably since before I was of voting age.

The only thing that will fix it in the U.S. Ukraine and everywhere else the American Empire has it's footprint is with visits to the Nation's Capital with music like this playing in the background. 

I'd like to believe that the American people would be introspective enough and emboldened given the crimes their government has committed abroad in their names, but we both know we are the worst of cowards and don't care about anybody but ourselves which is why Russia and China will more than likely end up doing it for us!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:26 | 4364411 Johnny Cocknballs
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Whoever junked that is a rotten cunt.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:34 | 4364443 Joenobody12
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LOL, whoever junked that can just move to another state - you dont have to stay in God forsaken Arizona.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:33 | 4364438 IdeasRbulletproof
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Didn't junk you but I'm from there. And I can tell you "WE" didn't vote for him. The money did. So I put all the blame to scottsdale. Fcuk Scottsdale!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 19:50 | 4364884 Son of Captain Nemo
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And I can tell you "WE" didn't vote for him. The money did.

Just like where I live and what I said previously.  When you know you're being abused at some point when do you stand up and take over?...

Should have happened in 2004 with the "9/11 Commission Report" and the fallout from the second Iraq war with the invasion in 2003.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 15:54 | 4363879 verbot
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Verbot.exe load split.ini..

So we sit in our plush environs and watch america decend unabated into what?

We are at war and nobody knows? Wow that just can not be made up can it?

Treason, its what all the rich kids do..

Yet despite the apparent correctness of our opinions and ZH's smashmouth reporting Treason is occuring now...

The real american nightmare is having 300 million folks wake up to see the real activities undertook on our behalf.(we fund alqueda, war criminal safehaven, pot bellied men bitching and moaning nobody will get up and go clean up the mess etc...)

So these fruits and freaks run us down break the law destroy liberty and any goodwill we may had as a country to serve what is an obvious foreign agenda....t r e a s o n.....


Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:10 | 4363945 It is a bargin ...
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The more I see of the Ukranian people the more I like them...they have balls that should be carried in a wheelbarrow

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:19 | 4364362 NuYawkFrankie
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Good-lookin women as well ;)

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:11 | 4363954 Confundido
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To say that the US is behind this simply shows a huge ignorance on the history of the region. And to quote RT as the source simply discredits the premise. This goes back to before WWI, to the times of the Ottoman Empire's struggle vs. the Tsars. The EU or the City don't need Ukraine. They simply need a contained Russia. Every ruler in Russia always feared freedom at their borders, for that would open the eyes of their servants. Either under the Tsars, the Soviet Politburo or Putin. And please, don't tell me that there is no freedom in the West. It's not about absolute but relative freedom. In relation to Russia, the EU is a less opressing system. That's all. Also, don't bring up the repression of the Eur, because at this point, Ukraine is far, far away from joining it, supposing it even lasts still another decade. This post is pure propaganda.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:25 | 4364015 Manipuflation
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I didn't junk you but this is not about freedom.  This is about graft.  You are correct that this goes back a very long time.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:21 | 4364378 SilverDOG
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EU removes ALL finacial freedom from the lower 90% of the population with destructive consequences.


Only survivor known; Iceland.

Tell me Ukraine's past was NOT bank controlled.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:30 | 4364425 Joenobody12
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Under Putin, people can travel outside of Russia If they want to taste your "freedon".  Traveled to Russia seeing the country and talked to the people gave me a much better understanding of the people and the country. Suddenly they are human just like you and me, not bears.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:14 | 4363968 tony wilson
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klitchko has been analised by ex nazi camp corpse grinder soros.

rothschild can only exist in an environment of death and destruction.

all ritual all energy flow.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:46 | 4364146 Battleaxe
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Cue Olympics.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:21 | 4363972 tony wilson
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chatham house rothschilld take over mob.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:21 | 4363990 tony wilson
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soros burp

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:28 | 4364038 Son of Captain Nemo
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Yes this bit of news is a burp for "Uncle George" isn't it?

I think he has the taste of Klitchko in the back of his throat with the sauce bernaise running through it!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:21 | 4363994 Manipuflation
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Did anyone note the Polish flags in the video?  It would be easy to miss what that means if one is unfamiliar with Ukraine.  The article was a little vague on the difference between the Klitschko crowd and the crowd surrounding the U.S. embassy.  I will simplify the goings on.

Ukraine has always been divided between east and west.  There is more Polish blood in the west and more Russian blood in the east.  This is a centuries old state of affairs.  Yanukovich is pro-Russia and therefore the eastern Unkranians benefit from graft at the expense of the western Ukranians.  Of course the U.S. would try to leverage the centuries old differences between the east and west but cui bono?  Correct, Western Europe does because of the natural gas line that runs through Ukraine.

One thing I always like to point out to my Eastern European friends and relatives, for all of the bluster one sometimes hears from them, is that large Western banks permeate Eastern European nations and dominate the banking there.  You know who I am tallking about, our ZH favorite crooks JP Morgan Chase, Goldman, Citi and the rest of the usual suspects.  I am not going to link them all as you have a computer too.

So no matter what happens, who wins?  Yes, that's right, the banks do.  The more stuff that is burnt up, blown up and destroyed the better per Krugman.  As for Putin, I know that it is tempting to lionize him as the antagonist to the West but it is simply not so because banks own him too.  Oh sure, he postures alright but when my Mother-in-law comes from Russia to visit and has a stack of U.S. $100 bills that should tell you something.  Look at the exchange rate of USD/Ruble charts over the years.  With the exception of the 2008 debacle, it's been pretty much pegged to the U.S. dollar for years now.  For a country with that much gold and resources the ruble should be appreciating.

If Eastern Europe really wanted to make a move they would quit fighting with each other and kick the Western bankers out, smash their central banks and demand hard money for exchange.  Of course, we should do the same, but easier said than done.              

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 16:54 | 4364183 xPTCx
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Did anyone catch this nugget from the press briefing yesterday?

"This situation arose because of the refusal of the Ukrainian government to listen to and take seriously the grievances of the Ukrainian people.  The opposition movement here was a non-violent movement and adopted those principles.  And we call on the government to refrain from violence, and we support dialogue between the government and the opposition."


Sound advice there Jay. You should tell that to your boss as well!

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:17 | 4364336 NuYawkFrankie
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Some things never change...


The Bolsheviks - USSA variety this time - just can't help themselves when it comes to stickin' it to Ukraine

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:26 | 4364405 QQQBall
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too cold to protest. I'd wait for Spring

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 17:29 | 4364416 Johnny Cocknballs
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I don't give one single, solitary fuck what happens in Ukraine.  But I'll simply assume that the "right thing" for those people to do is the opposite of what McCain is suggesting.

Fri, 01/24/2014 - 20:36 | 4365031 bitHedge
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State deparment supported NGOs, are turning to bitcoin to fund a color revolution in a former Soviet republic. 

One of these NGO clowns was at a bitcoin meetup here in San Francisco, turns out the Ukrainian government has frozen the accounts of these western NGOs. They are trying to use bitcoin to fund their people on the ground in Ukrain. Seems the German trick of sending Lenin in a train with gold bars isn't as efficient as crypto-currency. 

How long before the Kremlin and Beijing start sending bitcoin to Occupy?



Sat, 01/25/2014 - 00:25 | 4365654 Broken Window
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So, you don't want to be a slave for russian supremists? You are a CIA agent!
FU ZeroHedge. 

Sat, 01/25/2014 - 11:41 | 4366532 esum
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all the dupes jump on the yankee go home as the root of the uprising....what do we gain one way or the other... ukraine is energy dependent and grows wheat for income... seems to me the EU may not even want them... putin wants them as part of his empire rebuilding program... if ussa was behind this they forgot to provide weapons... oh i forgot libtards are against weapons... and favor snowballs... versus machine guns...

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