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Democratic Congressman Admits Obamacare Won't Work (After Announcing Retirement)

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"I don’t think we’re going to get enough young people signing up to make this bill work as it was intended to financially," warned Democrat Virginia Representative Jim Moran. The Democrat, as The Daily Caller reports, seemingly daring to break ranks with his peers, added that he understood Millennial lack of signing up as "frankly, there’s some legitimacy to their concern because the government spends about $7 for the elderly for every $1 it spends on the young." This stunning declaration, of course, fits with the narratives that most mathematically-capable human beings can comprehend but starkly refutes the hopes and dreams of the President's healthcare policy... The reason that Jim Moran could be so honest... after 12 terms of toeing the lying line, he has announced his retirement.

Via The Daily Caller,

A top House Democrat slammed Obamacare’s inability “to work” — but only after he announced his impending retirement from Congress.


12-term Virginia Rep. Jim Moran, an Appropriations Committee member who said this month that he will not seek re-election in 2014, said that not enough young people are signing up for Obamacare coverage to make the law work.


I’m afraid that the millennials, if you will, are less likely to sign up. I think they feel more independent, I think they feel a little more invulnerable than prior generations. But I don’t think we’re going to get enough young people signing up to make this bill work as it was intended to financially,” Moran said in an interview with WAMU American University Radio.


“And, frankly, there’s some legitimacy to their concern because the government spends about $7 for the elderly for every $1 it spends on the young,” Moran said.


I just don’t know how we’re going to do it frankly. If we had a solution I’d be telling the president right now,” Moran said.


Moran voted for President Obama’s Affordable Care Act, which depends on young healthy “invincibles” to sign up for health insurance exchanges to offset the high number of older, sicker people that drive rates up and make Obamacare plans more expensive.




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Perhaps there is a lesson in this for all of us - do not trust a politician until he has retired (and we suggest - not even then).


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Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:19 | 4373578 HedgeAccordingly
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EX CIA head admitted aliens exist.... if that proves anything .. 


Tom Perkins to Bloomberg TV: I Could Buy a Six Pack of Rolexes, I Have Members Of My Own Family In Trailer Parks

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:31 | 4373618 Mr Pink
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Moran,Weiner, Boner...I'm starting to get the feeling these ass clowns seek political office because they were made fun of since 1st grade

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:35 | 4373635 Normalcy Bias
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I think there's something to your hypothesis. They grow up being made fun of because they're obvious tools, but once they gain elective office, it's payback time!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:00 | 4373704 outofideas
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Yeah but usually us picked on geeks are good at maths. Not these clowns apparently.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 00:20 | 4373926 Pool Shark
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Looks like a Congressman finally got a brain:


Tue, 01/28/2014 - 01:08 | 4374043 Richard Chesler
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<= Obozocare
<= Obozofraud

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 05:39 | 4374303 Cap Matifou
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It looks in the case of Moran the saying 'Nomen est omen' doesn't apply.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 06:47 | 4374350 GetZeeGold
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(After Announcing Retirement)


Well.....that's one down.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 06:54 | 4374356 Occident Mortal
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Just goes to show that Obamacare is simply another money grab by the egregious generation.



Whereas the Millenials are voting with their “aren’t you dead yet” silence.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 07:26 | 4374383 negative rates
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It won't work because it's structurally flawed.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 08:13 | 4374411 N2OJoe
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It is working flawlessly as intented.

It's just that what they tell you it should do is not what it was designed to do.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 10:06 | 4374780 kralizec
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Moran and the rest of the treasonous assholes can rot in Hell!

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 09:29 | 4374599 Offthebeach
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Hollywood for ugly people.

Young people have gone Gault. They don't know Gault from butkis, but they organically sense, correctly, that they are the last in on a ponzi.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:51 | 4373673 King_Julian
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Virginia, my state, has gone to the ass clowns, both red and blue flavored. Absolute tools and if you didn't know, Cantor, also is from Northern Virginia. They have betrayed the proud history of the founders who came from this beautiful area.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:18 | 4373761 NoDebt
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I'm sorry, but you're too close to DC.  Well within the blast radius of statist control.  You're fucked.  Get out.  We can't help you when you're that close.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 00:10 | 4373898 AmericasCicero
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I work in DC.  Front row seat to the circus

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 11:26 | 4375130 odatruf
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Praytell, doing?

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 01:31 | 4374075 Freddie
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Canter is AIPAC/NeoCon/NWO. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:31 | 4373620 Grande Tetons
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Math and politics go together like reason and bullshit.

Worth the quick view. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:36 | 4373811 NOTW777
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and Moran voted for Obamacare

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 14:11 | 4375902 Tom_333
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Yes. Of course. Young people will not sign up.

Now...let´s see if we can exercise that logical thinking. The next step will the be-----------------------

Submit your answers. Don´t be afraid. Just shout them out as they come to mind.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:18 | 4373580 The Gooch
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He has announced his retirement.

With taxpayer funded pension and full health care for life.


Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:37 | 4373640 nightshiftsucks
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We should throw him a going away party and get him a necktie hanging from a pole.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:51 | 4373678 artless
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Hey, pretty much the whole world just collectively jacked off upon the death of Nelson Mandela who endorsed the technique of "necklacing" in pursuit of the aims of the ANC.

Maybe there will be someone who does the same for the complete bags of walking shit like Mr. Moran, then spend a few years in prison, be released and celebrated upon HIS death as if he was the second cuming.

Ya think?

No, I'm not one for violence. I prefer that Mr. Moran is stripped of all his property, dressed in an orange jumpsuit, and frog marched off to prison for the rest of his life and every last member of his immediate family be denied any such benefit of the man's decades of colusion in fucking over this country. Make him sit in a cell and rot eating nothing but the bare minimum and water and force his spawn to go work for a living.

There are no innocents in this matter. Fuck his wife, fuck his kids, and everyone else for that matter. Hell make THEM pay his 30 some years of salary back to the Treasury.

Oh, wait nix that. It's juts giving cash back to the criminals.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:22 | 4373763 LMAOLORI
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This is even more OUTRAGEOUS he's getting the orange jump suit and we still have to pay him!


Jesse Jackson Jr. still eligible for government pension, disability pay

Ex-congressman Jackson is eligible to receive $8,700 dollars per month in disability pay due to his bipolar condition and could receive a partial federal pension of $45,000 per year once he reaches 65.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 01:30 | 4374074 Matt
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$100,000 per year for being bipolar? Wow, must be nice being a government man.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 01:43 | 4374093 Yes We Can. But...
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That works out to $50k per pole. I'm unipolar, where's my $50k?

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 13:25 | 4375702 Winston Smith 2009
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"$100,000 per year for being bipolar?"

Hmmm, how easy is it to act bipolar? Not knowing makes me really depressed. But I feel so great today because it's a beautiful day. But I'm sure tomorrow will suck.

Will I get $200,000 if I'm also schizophrenic? Surely I will! No, you won't! Shut up!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:46 | 4373659 Real Estate Geek
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When these corrupt whores retire, don't they also get to keep all of the bribes, oops, er, excess funds held by their campaign organizations?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:48 | 4373670 The Gooch
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It depends how well your creative (1%) accountant accounts for "speaking engagements" and "consulting work".

Also, pretty sure that congressional, insider trading exemption does not expire.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:48 | 4373666 TheReplacement
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knukles, you should be all over this one.  More rightfully so one would think.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:52 | 4373676 Long-John-Silver
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He has announced his retirement.

With taxpayer funded pension and full health care for life.


A lot of good that's going to do for him when his 6 figure income in US Dollars buys as much stuff as Zim Dollars.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:22 | 4373590 Smiley
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Does not matter:  The shitwads who make the news will fight for the right to toss O's salad till the end.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:24 | 4373597 Meat Hammer
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Young healthy people still didn't want overpriced insurance? Really? You don't say. 

You can't make unicorns exist by creating a law mandating the existence of unicorns, no matter how many bumper stickers you put on your prius.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:26 | 4373604 drchris
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They want it if you're buying.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:42 | 4373824 XitSam
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Young people stay on their parent's policy until age 26 so why would they buy anyway?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:49 | 4373836 dexter_morgan
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haha - go figger

got some asshole parks at the train station driving his low rider buick with several 'I Love Obamacare' stickers all over it. how you likin it now asshole.


Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:24 | 4373599 NoDebt
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Like having the mugger smile and wish you a nice day after he takes your money.

This isn't some act of contrition, this is him saying "Fuck you, America.  Look what I can and did do to you.  There's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it.  And there's nothing you can do to me about it."


Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:26 | 4373600 Normalcy Bias
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Go on take the money and run...

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:27 | 4373606 goldenbuddha454
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12 terms says it all!  These fucking assholes stay in a seat like a tick on a dog glad-handing you and bending over for lobbyists.  Term Limits America!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:42 | 4373656 The Gooch
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Maybe you'll get to vote on that someday. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:50 | 4373671 kridkrid
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term limits would be meaningless.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:57 | 4373697 NoDebt
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Why don't we try them anyway?  Can't be any worse than this shit show.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:37 | 4373819 Ballin D
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do you really want to set a precedant of just trying something for the sake of it because their last idiotic scheme didnt work?

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 00:08 | 4373894 NoDebt
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In this case, yes.  I'll take a flyer on this one and let the chips fall where they may.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 00:57 | 4374025 Ballin D
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Rash actions by our political 'masterminds' without appropriate planning creates things like Obamacare and Quantitative Easing. I dont know why anyone would think its different this time. It never is.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 03:12 | 4374214 Midas
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I think term limits are a great idea.  One wrinkle I would put on it is that the individual could run for office again as long as they sat out for at least one term.  If they are really that good, you could get them back in.  The elected officials in my area are above average.  By that I mean they don't do much, but they still get re-elected just because of the inertia.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 03:26 | 4374230 boogerbently
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That is the problem with no term limits.

Everyone knows ALL politicians are crooks.......except MY politician.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 09:43 | 4374667 mvsjcl
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Frankly, there's no way of really knowing why they get re-elected, if you get my drift.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 08:33 | 4374447 jerry_theking_lawler
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Forget 'new laws'.....let's go back to the old ones that work for a long, long time.....repeal the 17th Amendment. Once we regain the REPUBLIC, we can go from there.....

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:30 | 4373799 KickIce
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Good evening senator.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 03:36 | 4374239 PeaceLover
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how about they pass a law that locks up a lawmaker that lies  for longer than a harmless pot smoker. :-)
Kind of dare you to tell the truth.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:28 | 4373610 nantucket
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easy solution, the politicians will raise the penalties,...oops...taxes (thanks Jon Roberts) for not buying insurance and criminalize non-compliance, and use the IRS to withdraw the money from the paychecks of those young uns lucky enuf to have a job.  problem solved.  you can thank me after the election.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:24 | 4373783 LMAOLORI
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And you can bet the NSA will help the IRS if they try to run

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:29 | 4373615 q99x2
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This is the chance of a lifetime to destroy the United States of America and rob every last cent from the populace. No way in hell is a financial problem going to stop Obamacare.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 03:28 | 4374232 boogerbently
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I'm sure they are drafting legislation right now to INCREASE the fines to make up for the shortfall.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 10:02 | 4374757 Offthebeach
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A little late. Crime happened 101 years ago when you, we, were put into involuntary debt bondage in perpetuity.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:30 | 4373616 nmewn
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Dumb fucking asshole.

YOU helped make it a law...its not a "bill" anymore.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:08 | 4373736 NoDebt
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Rings as hollow as the guy who architected the Patriot Act coming out and saying "whoah, this isn't what we intended!", doesn't it?

They break principles that have stood society in good stead for hundreds of years and then feign "shock" that things would go awry.  Uh huh, right.  They knew damned well what they were doing and what the consequences would be.  When ultimate contol is your goal, it doesn't matter what stands in the way.  Certainly not some moldy old piece of paper in a museum called the Constitution.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:41 | 4373627 medium giraffe
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Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:36 | 4373638 Downrange
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You mean this shit ain't free?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:55 | 4373693 Long-John-Silver
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You mean this shit ain't free?


If you like free shit, you can continue getting free shit.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:39 | 4373642 BeerMe
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Why signup and get screwed over?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:54 | 4373685 artless
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ANd to the people of Virginia for electing AND RE-ELECTING this walking virus piece of shit to Congress:


What the fuck is wrong with you people?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:04 | 4373725 quasimodo
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What is wrong with those people is the same damn thing wrong with far to many others from other states. 

To lay it all at the feet of one asshole is a tad mis-guided. They all, for the most part, suck ASS.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:36 | 4373810 Real Estate Geek
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Exactly.  We can't forget that the cheeseheads continued to reelect Sensenbrenner, author of the so-called "patriot act."  Or the California nuts reelecting Feinstein. etc.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:14 | 4373756 NoDebt
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Virginia is too close to DC.  Well within the blast radius of the current brand of radical statism.  They're fucked.  Can't save everyone, sorry to say.  

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:00 | 4373701 lunaticfringe
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Americans are broke... incl. millenials.

You can pass an unread law, have crony Supreme Court capture, but in the final analysis this law was completely dependent on a healthy class of people who are financially broke. They simply cannot pay.

This administration wasn't smart enough to see the glaringly obvious. Someone was going to have to pay for Obamacare and that dumbfuck in the WH just didn't account for that.

I shall enjoy giving Obamacare it's well deserved eulogy. It won't be long now.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:02 | 4373711 americanspirit
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The good news is that after these scumbags retire if some crazed criminal puts a hole in their head - god forbid, of course - it won't be a federal crime anymore. Just your run of the mill homicide.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:02 | 4373714 Real Estate Geek
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It's not going to work, they know it's not going to work, and instead of cutting (our) losses, these fucks are going to double-down.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:17 | 4373765 lunaticfringe
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It will morph into single payer. That was probably what they were after all along. Crazy like a fox.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:23 | 4373782 lunaticfringe
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It will morph into single payer. That was probably what they were after all along. Crazy like a fox.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 03:32 | 4374236 PeaceLover
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That the only place it should go with cost control's!
no more secrects..

if you choose to be in the help(medical field you shoud make a great living not a 1% killing)
anything else is as charles h Smith  is wasted friction (or profit for the inusrance company's, and CEOs of hospitals) stealing from the sick and helpless!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:43 | 4373827 dexter_morgan
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Where was he when the bill was being debated? Oh, and yeah, have someone be starting your car for you now........

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:42 | 4373828 homiegot
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Hey, asshole, could of used this while you were in office.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:52 | 4373851 QE49er
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If you build it, they will leave

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 00:08 | 4373896 Colonel Klink
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Moran has been a piece of shit since I lived in the DC area.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 01:46 | 4374097 Yes We Can. But...
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Yeah, a drunk one.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 11:35 | 4375180 odatruf
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No lie, more than once during late recorded votes he has smelled like he shit himself or didn't wipe. I can think of about 5 Members about who that was sometimes true.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 00:38 | 4373984 Northern Lights
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Oh please, this congressmen is leaving politics with a gold watch, and a big bag of money.

Making the statement that Obamacare was a mistake is nothing more than a confession on his part to clear his own conscience so that he can enjoy his retirement.



Tue, 01/28/2014 - 00:47 | 4374003 Dingleberry
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Maybe hope and change can pay for the young's high premiums?

Everyone is an enlightened, compassionate liberal.......until the bill comes due and THEY have to pay up.

Then, miraculously, they morph into a conservative. At least with their wallets.


Tue, 01/28/2014 - 01:16 | 4374051 Oldballplayer
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We get the government we deserve.

They promise skittles and unicorns.

Well, they don't tell you skittles is the worst candy ever made, and unicorns are a euphemism for getting it up the ass. You don't want these things.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 01:56 | 4374109 ThirdCoastSurfer
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It's not a revenue problem, it's a spending problem. 

The average salary of your local Pharmacist is $117,000. 

Counting pills is not that hard a job and is indicative of how the medical profession as a whole has created false barriers to entry that prevent a competitive marketplace.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 08:36 | 4374454 jerry_theking_lawler
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uhmm....what about the 8 years of skool they attend plus residency/intern.....they must repay these loans somehow.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 10:07 | 4374779 Offthebeach
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Military pharmacist is year.
Error rates are comparable.
Costs, not so much.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 11:54 | 4375157 ThirdCoastSurfer
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University is a false barrier to entry. The cost of university is a real barrier to entry. 

I'm not saying anyone should work for free but I would say that in a competative environment, the average salary for a Pharmacist should be about $84,000 or $7,000 a month.  This change alone would save the healthcare system about $5 billion a year. 

As far as barriers, it's hard to find a job that you couldn't apprentice your way to competency in (of all the pharmacist assistants you see at your local drug store, in this case, surely one of them, after years of employment, could be promoted without a degree, right?), even though you wouldn't learn about Chaucer or be able to name all 209 bones in the body through rote repetition to be forgotten by most hours after the exam. 

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 02:12 | 4374137 ItsDanger
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LMAO, 7:1?  Its got to be much higher than that.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 02:15 | 4374142 fiftyfive
Tue, 01/28/2014 - 02:22 | 4374146 Hubbs
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Classic motherfucking politician. After he has been on the government  "deluxe EBT program" by being in office for so many years, he collects his pension and loot,  suddenly "gets religion"  and confesses.  What a cowardly fucking bastard slimeball. 

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 07:04 | 4374361 russwinter
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This will change your world view forever:


Tue, 01/28/2014 - 08:21 | 4374430 youngman
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Just wiat until people start dying because of this they lose their healthcare from thier doctors that were managing them thru a difficult illness....then I bet the MSM will take notice...they will be all over it showing how people are dying because of Obamacare....NOT..I was just drreaming...they wll die..but no one will write about it...

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 08:33 | 4374446 spanish inquisition
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I agree with not trusting the bastard. You need to wait and see what lobbying group he has already been pledged to when they have the pinning ceremony in 2015.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 08:41 | 4374459 AdvancingTime
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The White House needs 7 million healthy young people to join the health care exchanges within the first year of the law to keep premiums low for everyone under the Affordable Care Act. Many people see this botched roll-out of the Affordable Care Act or ‘Obamacare’ as an opening for Republicans to win over Hispanic “millennials” that make up 20 percent of those age18-to-29. They are this generation’s largest minority and as a whole their families are the most uninsured in the United States. More on why Obamacare may fail and bring the healthcare system to its knees in the post below,

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 09:23 | 4374560 Rising Sun
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12-term Virginia Rep. Jim Moran - you fucking voted for this misery.


you imposed pain on the masses when you knew it would fail


so here's my imposition on you - hope you and your family die a slow and miserable fucking death you cocksucker.



Tue, 01/28/2014 - 09:51 | 4374716 rsnoble
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Maybe Obama will sign them up himself and send them the bill.  Then they can create derivatives etc. LOL.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 12:54 | 4375533 ComputerNerd
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WOW!! Jim Moron figured that all out by himself. A little clue, he's retiring because his reelection chances are zero, just like the chances of many of his socialist friends. The silent majority is going to have its say in November. A lot of heads are going to roll. (I HOPE!)


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