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Food Stamp Recipients Dominated By "Working Age Americans" For First Time On Record

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

When people ask me to describe the state of the U.S. economy, what I always say is that it can best characterized as an ongoing state-sanctioned theft. This theft consists of the 0.01% oligarch class intentionally leveraging a corrupt monetary and political system in order to funnel all of the wealth of the non-oligarch rich and middle-class upward to them. The underclasses are kept quiet and in-line via food stamps and other forms of so-called “welfare.”

In reality, I have frequently maintained that food stamps are actually corporate welfare and that the stock market represents food stamps for the 1%. The entire economy is a gigantic bait and switch in which a handful of people rape and pillage everyone else.

With unemployment and GDP statistics hopelessly manipulated, we must look at other data points in order to gain an understanding of how things really stand. Data related to food stamp rolls is one way to gain real insight into the true state of the U.S. economy.

In an excellent article from the Associate Press, we learn several things.

  • For the first time ever, working-age people now make up the majority in U.S. households that rely on food stamps.
  • Food stamp participation since 1980 has grown the fastest among workers with some college training.
  • By education, about 28 percent of food stamp households are headed by a person with at least some college training, up from 8 percent in 1980.

More from the AP:

WASHINGTON (AP) — In a first, working-age people now make up the majority in U.S. households that rely on food stamps — a switch from a few years ago, when children and the elderly were the main recipients.

 

Some of the change is due to demographics, such as the trend toward having fewer children. But a slow economic recovery with high unemployment, stagnant wages and an increasing gulf between low-wage and high-skill jobs also plays a big role. It suggests that government spending on the $80 billion-a-year food stamp program — twice what it cost five years ago — may not subside significantly anytime soon.

“High employment, stagnant wages.” Huh? Don’t these people realize we’ve been in a recovery for almost five years now!

Food stamp participation since 1980 has grown the fastest among workers with some college training, a sign that the safety net has stretched further to cover America’s former middle class, according to an analysis of government data for The Associated Press by economists at the University of Kentucky. Formally called Supplemental Nutrition Assistance, or SNAP, the program now covers 1 in 7 Americans.

Notice the statement, “America’s former middle class.” At least they are honest. The middle class is gone.

Since 2009, more than 50 percent of U.S. households receiving food stamps have been adults ages 18 to 59, according to the Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey. The food stamp program defines non-elderly adults as anyone younger than 60.

 

As recently as 1998, the working-age share of food stamp households was at a low of 44 percent, before the dot-com bust and subsequent recessions in 2001 and 2007 pushed new enrollees into the program, according to the analysis by James Ziliak, director of the Center for Poverty Research at the University of Kentucky.

 

By education, about 28 percent of food stamp households are headed by a person with at least some college training, up from 8 percent in 1980. Among those with four-year college degrees, the share rose from 3 percent to 7 percent. High-school graduates head the bulk of food stamp households at 37 percent, up from 28 percent. In contrast, food stamp households headed by a high-school dropout have dropped by more than half, to 28 percent.

 

So basically, young people are being encouraged to take on a mountain of suffocating debt to go to college and get a worthless degree only to move into their parents basements and collect food stamps. Now that’s what I call a recovery.

Several economists say food stamp rolls are likely to remain elevated for some time. Historically, there has been a lag before an improving unemployment rate leads to a substantial decline in food stamp rolls; the Congressional Budget Office has projected it could take 10 years.

This is particularly the case when unemployment statistics are entirely fabricated.

Full- and part-time workers employed year-round saw the fastest growth in food stamp participation since 1980, making up 17 percent and 7 percent of households, respectively. In contrast, the share of food stamp households headed by an unemployed person has remained largely unchanged, at 53 percent. Part-year workers declined in food stamp share.

Welcome to serfdom. You have arrived America.

Full article here.

 


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Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:19 | Link to Comment Hippocratic Oaf
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All according to plan..................

If you will not voluntarily get on the gubmint teat, they will force you.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:21 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Correct, at this point, it would be more humane to build colesseums and let the serfs fight to the death.  Moar for the owners, and once the robots take over, there will be nothing left for anyone else.

The main problem with idle hands "of working age" is that they often find something to do anyway...

interesting times...

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:26 | Link to Comment Bearwagon
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Yeah. Hunger games - it would be more humane!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:29 | Link to Comment corporatewhore
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we do have our gladiator spectacles with our pro sports teams.  I just can't believe people buy all this team shit that ain't inexpensive.  Of course, the rent can't be paid, the utilities turned off--but we do have our regalia and EBT/SNAP.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:51 | Link to Comment NuckingFuts
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Why the down votes? Outside of .gov I can not think of a bigger waste of time and resources then pro sports.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 21:07 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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The main problem with idle hands "of working age" is that they often find something to do anyway...

 

The traditional 'solution' has always been war.  Lets the most dangerous unemployed - young males full of testosterone - fight 'enemies' of the state instead of questioning the actions of the state which have left them unemployed.  Jobs are created in the armaments industry for others.  Any criticism of the state is suppressed as 'unpatriotic' as the populace is encouraged to focus on 'the enemy'.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:59 | Link to Comment TheGardener
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Paying taxes is for the truly stupid.

Either you are clever and make lot`s of money but know
when to stop if more is a disservice to yourself and just would feed the beast. Or you are simply instinct driven
which is a higher form of intelligence by empiric measures
and you don`t start wasting your efforts with an overwhelming multitudes of incentives that tell you to avoid
paid work for "social reasons".

Class warfare whom ? The idiot tax paying middling classes
that envy rich and poor alike for a leisurely non-working lifestyle ? Some good folks still working as a habit without need will take care of themselves whatever happens but lots of sheeple wage slaves will get what they have been
asking for : socialist paradise with equal poverty rights

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:13 | Link to Comment akarc
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The Corporations will force the gubmint to force you. Easy enough to do as members of congress twerk at Davos to be noticed.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:28 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Hope & Change.  Remember all the young people fainting and fawning over Obama?  Like the little black hilter youth that they are (this includes black, hispanic, asian and white youth who fainted for Der Islamo Pot Head).   Morons.

Sad because McCain is Soros other puppet.   In 2012, Romney & Newt were Adelson's boys but Santorum was " too Christian" for him.

If t6he younguns had been smart - they would have been out there for Ron Paul.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 16:29 | Link to Comment TheGardener
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Freddie, beyond me how a nation that should by now be
efficient in dealing with minorities had to have this one.

Yes, there are A-Americans and they could be transferred
or elect freely their own negro king for the voluntary
dissimilation .

How any white person casted a vote for a bastard of
dubious provenience is truly beyond me.

In retrospect everyone hates this guy, but what a deep
seated self hate made anyone vote for the black sheep
of banksters choice to start with ?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 20:06 | Link to Comment Dingleberry
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Spot on Frederick.

The youngings fawned over him and his health plan.

And departed the scene when they saw the bill.

Ron Paul was their only hope. Even if he was a complete fraud (which he was not), voting for him would have at least shown that they have an iota of collective intelligence.

Instead, they had ideas inserted into their heads, thought the ideas were their own, and made emotionally-based (and suicidal) decisions.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:57 | Link to Comment the0ther
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Lots o youngins WERE out there for Ron Paul. Then the puppet masters stole the nomination from Paul and handed it to Romney. It was stolen no doubt about it.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 18:34 | Link to Comment RafterManFMJ
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2015 Chartism:

Can of baked beans: 100 rounds 5.55
Case of MREs: one 'assault rifle'
Food for a year for you and your family: enlist in US Army
Food for you alone for a year: enlist in AmeriCorps

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:17 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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Foward!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Bearwagon
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Warward!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:48 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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Pencil me in as DownForWarward...

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:54 | Link to Comment 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Long. soylent green.....

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:18 | Link to Comment Haus-Targaryen
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Sure am glad I am GTFO'ing myself. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:19 | Link to Comment firstdivision
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Recovery, Fuck Yeah!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:22 | Link to Comment TideFighter
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Unfortunately, "working age" now means to age 75, EBT for Polident and Depends.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:11 | Link to Comment akarc
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no man, make your grandparents gum their food and piss their pants. After all you are helping to support them right?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:46 | Link to Comment DontGive
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Long Depends!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:48 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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Finally, someone who gets it.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 16:30 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Years ago we were at a lunch with an older co-worker who was a workaholic.  The subject of retirement came up and someone asked him when he was going to retire and he replied 'Depends.'  Without thinking I chimed in 'What?  When you start wearing them?'  Which created a bunch of laughter but a frown from him.  I bet he's still working.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 21:30 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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I'm from a family of 'aspirational Republicans' - blue collar/working class who believe that 'only poor people are Democrats'.  They've voted against their interests for decades.  

Some are in their 80's - still working because they HAVE to but somehow justifying it all in their own minds.  

My grandmother - who put FDR in the same group as Hitler and Stalin - collected far more from Social Security and Medicare, stayed in a house she could never have afforded without government help - a house that had NEVER been reassessed over the 50 years she lived there.  The irony in all this is that these oh so 'independent' people were more than willing to take help from the government while complaining vociferpously about the 'poor people' that they thought were 'abusing' the system.  However they had been screwed up and downa and sideways over the course of their lives by their employers - none had any pension of value (and few had bothered to save for their own retirement, living paycheck to paycheck).  Few of their children ever accomplished substantially more than their parents - many went to college (mediocre ones) but this was a famiy where the best and brightest were not encouraged but battered with 'You think you're so smart.'  In this famliy, the nail that stuck up got smashed down to the same level as the rest.  God forbid anyone really did do 'better' - this was not accomplishing something of note but seen as 'showing off' and making the rest 'look bad'.  Bad decisions were always justified somehow.  My grandmother married badly - to someone who cheated on her and worse - but somehow she justified that all in her own mind. She kept her family together but at a huge price to all involved.  Somehow all the bad choices in her life were the fault of others.  The ability to blame others for one's own bad decisions seems to be a famliy attribute.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:23 | Link to Comment GeorgeHayduke
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The owners are getting closer and closer to the peonage/serfdom that they seek.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:52 | Link to Comment yrbmegr
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Indeed.  It was once believed that capitalism is better than feudalism because feudalism is founded on ownership of land while capitalism is founded on ownership of capital.  Land, the thinking goes, is in limited supply, whereas capital can be created.  However, if all means of creating capital are owned, capitalism is converted to feudalism.  We are close, I think.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 17:36 | Link to Comment TheGardener
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Have your eyes on others capital and land much ?

You might get blinded in envy.

How many people, land and capital do you own to raise your voice as such ?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:10 | Link to Comment akarc
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"getting closer" ????

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 16:06 | Link to Comment GeorgeHayduke
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Good point. Maybe I'm too sheltered in my gray economy life with as much avoidance of mainstream anything to notice that we've crossed the threshold. I'll be looking more closely.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:24 | Link to Comment b_thunder
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People get food stamps because the cost rent, healthcare, and gasoline is TOO DAMN HIGH!

Because inflation is so understated, what formerly was a living wage now simply isn't, but people believe the official propaanda and do not demand wage increases to compensate for the price increases.

The US Dollar lost 75% of its value since 1980.  How many low-end jobs pay 4X what they paid in 1980?  Min. wage was $3.10, it should be $12.50 now

 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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Fuck that! Lets make it $25/hr so I can afford that new car! Hell why stop there? We could do a hundred right? There is no reason for economics, supply and demand and silly shit like that interfere with our prosperity plan. Maybe we can go Agentina and simply set prices low too. Maybe cap new cars at $20k so everyone can afford one. I mean shit, if we are going to do this lets do it right!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:51 | Link to Comment forwardho
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Your on a roll, lets just TAKE all the rich folks shit!

They gots mo than enuff!!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:09 | Link to Comment akarc
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Or for kicks and giggles take back the ill gotten bank gains starting with JD. That should go a long way towards helping. Oh wait, congres will just fight over what to do with it. Not knowing they will give back to corprations.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:07 | Link to Comment akarc
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We do not need Argentina. We got KIA, the car of the people.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:41 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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I thought the Car of the people was the Volkswagon...

 

Ooops...Wrong era...That was fascism under Hitler rather than today's fascism.

 

You are right. It is the KIA. (Killed In Action)

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:40 | Link to Comment DOT
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The wages for the Free Shit Army have nothing to do with inflation or the cost of living.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:53 | Link to Comment midtowng
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Maybe you didn't understand the headline: it was about working people.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:06 | Link to Comment akarc
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I think you meant to put a ?sarc behind that. But I downed ya just in case.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:48 | Link to Comment JR
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Several economists say food stamp rolls are likely to remain elevated for some time. Historically, there has been a lag before an improving unemployment rate l. -- Mike Krieger

I agree with you, DOT. This story is the most disconcerting one on ZH today, IMHO. Think about the statement above: it’s “Obama Welfare Care” propaganda, IMO, in order to keep the EBT cards going and to keep the chain food stores from closing due to lower profits due to cutbacks in spending by the middle class. These economists are part of the state and corporate propaganda machines - broadcasting the hokum that a low-paying job means taxpayers need to supply you with food stamps.

Inequality has become Obama's major target; it's his code word for socialism. Even his State of the Union message is to include a thrust to solve this alleged problem in America.

A University of Wisconsin economist, Timothy Smeeding, helps to pile on the propaganda which this Administration hopes will lead to even more wealth transfers from the producers: "A low-wage job supplemented with food stamps is becoming more common for the working poor."

Bringing this story out by the state media is propaganda; using it to say we have to support people who don't have the proper income. IOW, that we need to take money from the people who have income and shift it to those who do not make as much.

This is true Communism, reducing all people to the lowest common denominator -- and all the while keeping the borders open for millions of Mexico's poor.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 16:25 | Link to Comment akarc
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And if the slaves rose up and threw off the chains of the plantation owners would you call it communism?

Because we do have inequailty by virtue of the uneven playing field created by carpet baggers that rushed american jobs overseas, a justice department that does not understand justice and a political machine for sale to the highest bidder as opposed to being "representative".

The propaganda is meted out by both sides depending on whether you listen to 4 hours of FOX or Four hours of MSNBC to get your bias confirmed.

The door stays open to mexicos poor for one reason, they will work hard for little to nothing. That is a good thing for orange juice and veggie corporations. Run by the very people who delight in seeing American wages coming down to be almost competitive with that of illegal immigrants.

But then, though know one will embrace the truth, all will bitch if the price of their orange juice goes up.

Excuse me that was generalization, those who sit on the plantation porch will bitch not as they are fanned by servants while drinking their o.j. with vodka.

And "we the people" will continue to blame dem damned ol mexicans that have been coming here legally and illegally for how long....................   And we have never been able to stop it???? Give me a freaking break!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 16:47 | Link to Comment JR
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Perhaps you read a few news stories in November of 2012: it was an incredible display of ignorance and greed, re-electing the worst president in the history of America. And this election was heavily influenced by the recent increases in Mexican immigration. And the reason for the immigration, in addition to the desires of employers here to pay lower wages, is to break the back of the American European culture.

That is why the doors stay open to the Mexico.

When democracy is taken from its proper place by fanatical democrats, it produces envious hatred of all man’s differences and distinctions... because the fanatic insists upon making all men equal in all departments.

The Founders’ aim to treat all men as equals in opportunity came specifically because they knew that men are not equals in other areas. Fanatical democrats, however, took a grain from this truth to insist upon making all men equal in all departments, regardless of the type of activity and vocation.

Jose Ortegal y Gasset, in Morbid Democracy, points out that this is not the spirit of true democracy, but of plebeianism.

“The initial result is the wounding of the very sentiment which gave rise to democracy: for the concept of democracy springs from the desire to save the plebs from their low condition. But the doctrinaire democrat, who has converted a technique, democracy, into an end, soon finds himself sympathizing with the plebs precisely because of their plebeianism—their customs, manner, and intellectual tone.

An example of this is the socialist creed (for we are dealing here with a creed, a secular religion) which has for one article of faith the dogma that only a proletarian head is fit for true science and reformed morality.”

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 20:48 | Link to Comment akarc
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"And the reason for the immigration, in addition to the desires of employers here to pay lower wages, is to break the back of the American European culture."

Yeah this why all them poor mexicans come here. They had a meeting many years ago. All got together and said, hey lets risk our lives crossing the border to go to work in lettuce fields in order to break the back of the American European culture.  I can hear them laughing in the groves now.

 

"The Founders’ aim to treat all men as equals in opportunity"

Thank you!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:01 | Link to Comment Spanky
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Not to quibble, but...

The Founders’ aim to treat all men as equals in opportunity came specifically because they knew that men are not equals in other areas. -- JR

The Founders' aim to treat all men as equal under the law came about specifically because they knew that men are not equals in other areas.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 21:37 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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People get food stamps because the cost rent, healthcare, and gasoline is TOO DAMN HIGH!

 

or - from another perspective - because wages are TOO DAMN LOW.  Real incomes for the 99% have been declining since the 1970's (though productivity has increased - leading to increased corporate profits).  Companies have not shared the results of this increase in productivity with their employees - it has gone to upper management.  As productivity increases slowed, companies moved jobs offshore (now that 'free trade' agreeements allow it) to boost profits even higher.


Tue, 01/28/2014 - 02:39 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Demand a raise, get fired and watch over a dozen other people fight over the job you used to have...

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:26 | Link to Comment denverdolomte
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Any Denver folks on here I am 24/7 starting organic heirloom plants for indoor growing and outdoor growing this spring. I am more than sure most people on here are well prepared, but if not I am happy to share and teach people how to clone and graft plants to avoid needing to purchase plants in the future. No joke, my mission this year is to help people avoid this fucking system and self sustain in their homes. 

 

@LawsofPhysics - Couldn't agree more, idle hands allow us to focus on other things sometimes. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:37 | Link to Comment Mad Mohel
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Self sustain? You know how to make iPhones and boner pills? If not, then most people will tell you, thanks, but no thanks.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:40 | Link to Comment denverdolomte
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AHhahah. touche 

 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Richard Chesler
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Your growing activities have been logged in the archives of the Ministry of Prosperity. Please stand by for fair sharing instructions. Thank you for your cooperation.

 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 16:07 | Link to Comment Deathrips
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We should talk Denver. I have a 2000 lb tilapia aquaponics system and another one under construction in california. WE do automation and control systems. Denver has been giving us alot of attention we use 30% of the energy of other systems. I sent you a contact. good job. keep it up.

 

RIPS

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 16:22 | Link to Comment denverdolomte
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Done and done. Yeah look forward to hearing about that and that doesn't surprise me you have a bunch of action from Denver, got a buddy who is a butcher and was saying tilapia is a huge concern regarding freshness and shortages here. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:39 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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Ah yes, jumping on the legal weed gravy train, are ya?  Kidding!  We reside also in the great Rocky Mountain region and do a fair bit of gardening.  Our heirloom seed collection is extensive, but is difficult to access as it lies on the bottom of the lake with everything else.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:44 | Link to Comment denverdolomte
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Yeah, I spent some paper on seeds awhile ago, and about to buy another large amount. I just learned how to clone vegetables and fruit plants, much harder than the other stuff I grow. I switched to indoor gardening since it's so damn hard to grow outdoors here on the front range, no rain and way to hot from June till Aug. 

Insane how much money you save not buying fruits and veggies from a store. Still trying to figure out how to answer the meat / poultry issue, since I don't have the room to have those types of animals. Maybe my huskies will just go hunt for me. haha.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:04 | Link to Comment akarc
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rabbits..........feed em your scraps and they will give you meat and fertilizer. In my neck of the woods hawks and critters just love chicken to much.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:07 | Link to Comment denverdolomte
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Yeah I've noticed recently in my area of Denver, a lot of people are urban homesteading with chicken coups, and seen a higher than average number of hawks and birds of prey flying around. Never thought about rabbits, could throw up a cheap heated cage and raise some. It's hard in my yard with huskies cause they would kill everything no questions asked, at least in a cage the rabbits wouldn't be their dinner. Thanks I am going to look into that. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:17 | Link to Comment James
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If anyone is considering rabbits be sure to check out the New Zealand variety.

Lots of meat.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:38 | Link to Comment akarc
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Ran sink and shower drains down hill to garden spot culminating in perferated pipe. phosphates and bits of food that get washed down make good garden water. Rabbit hutch up off the ground under some trees next to garden. The books say rabbit shit to hot to use w/o being aged. I just shoveled from undercage and threw on garden no problem. Beat a florida drought in the sandhills (crappy land. good for scrub oaks and palmettos) with it.

Was boo coo years ago though had to move.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 01:52 | Link to Comment James
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To compost animal crap properly consider building a large square of 2x4s and fastening 1/4" mesh to it.

Place screen in sun off the ground and throw waste on it to dry. Rake back and forth so it falls through. preferably into wheelbarrow. Add dry leaves, twigs/branches to it along w/dirt and blood meal.Soon you will have organic dirt.

Also, diluting one quart of urine to three quarts water gives you  organic nutrients high in the N of the NPK needed. This is for growth stage. PK is then used to grow/flower the plant to harvest

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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I look Forward hearing Zero's propaganda....er I mean report on the state of the dis-union in his upcoming address. He's my hero.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:35 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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I'm hoping he tells us that everything is all good and all the negative shit we have been hearing is simply naybobs of negativism. He's such a really cool guy and I know he loves us all like his own children....He would never lie to us or fuck us over...would he?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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I'm so excited, that I can barely contain myself. Like a teenage boy getting his first piece of ass.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:46 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Oh. Kay. I think I'll stand over here thanks. You guys have fun or ... whatever.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:46 | Link to Comment DOT
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Gotta green that Spiro spin. He could really spit it!

My fave: "pusillanimous pussy footing"

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:51 | Link to Comment djsmps
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If he had a son, it would be you  and you and you and you and you..........and especially you.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:26 | Link to Comment yrbmegr
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We need to remove the marginal tax penalty on wages relative to capital.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:28 | Link to Comment FreeMktFisherMN
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we need to remove all taxes including the inflation one. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:32 | Link to Comment Rising Sun
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Give us SUM MOAR RECUVURIE Barry - you fucking piece of dried up shit!!!!!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:35 | Link to Comment denverdolomte
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"you fucking piece of dried up shit!!!!!"

 

Best definition of "Chalky" I've heard to date. Cough up a bit of coffee on that one thanks!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:49 | Link to Comment akarc
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Not to take any heat off Barry who has surrounded himself with wall streeters but please let us not leave out the likes of the Koch brothers and walmarts/McDonalds who teach corporations that gee we do not have to pay a living wage. We only have to pay a token wage which will be taxed some of which will go back to the workers via EBT therfor it is incumbent on us in our workers best interest to insure that our workers know how to apply for the benefits they need to make up for what we refuse to pay them so we can maintain profit margin.   

Dirty bastards supported by us so that we can buy something produced by the US exported slave labor and get a dollar hamburger. 

But yeah blame somebody, anybody for what ultimately we are all complicit in.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:32 | Link to Comment dobermangang
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Food prices will be going much higher due to the terrible drought in California.  Farmers are selling off their cattle since hay costs too much to feed them.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-drought-ranchers-selling-c...

Might be a good time to stock up on some canned vegtables before the prices soar.  Aldis usually has the best prices on canned foods.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:42 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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So, short beef then?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Frank N. Beans
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yeah i guess the gobernmint made it easier to get on food stamps

pretty soon 99% of us will be on EBT cards

isn't that the goal? control thru food?

Wed, 01/29/2014 - 11:28 | Link to Comment Kobe Beef
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It worked against the Kulaks...

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:44 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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In fairness, "working age" is now defined as anyone between the ages of 12 and 82. Because child labor is fine now, and who the fuck can aford to retire.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:45 | Link to Comment monad
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Over the holiday I spent time with these homeless men. They are young, strong, angry, desperate and mostly white, which is neither demographically consistent with my area or the fake census.
Napolean in rags is coming to town. Be sure to direct them to the homes, properties, hang outs, next of kin & workplaces of your political oppressors....

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:59 | Link to Comment akarc
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Oh no, none of them are out of work are they? Well by God if they are they just need to  go out and get a job.  And if the damn job don't pay enough to buy a meal, let them eat Ramen!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 20:57 | Link to Comment monad
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See, this is where social engineering breaks down. All one needs to do is feed these able recruits better than sawdust noodles with MSG and they'll have fun and profit making soap for the cause, and there is jack shit the 2nd handers can do about it.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:00 | Link to Comment forwardho
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I know you.

Some... call you...

Tim.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:52 | Link to Comment The_Dude
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Here in Cali, a law was passed to raise the minimum wage to $9 and then $10 next year.   When I first heard this I knew it was a plan to push people off of EBT and aid.  Essentially, the do-gooders here thinking that they will get back at the walmarts of the world by pushing up their wage costs.  Sure enough, heard Pelosi on the radio last week almost verbatim stating that these changes will start to fix our government outlay problems.

Not a second thought as to what it will do to the small businesses and those that are playing by the rules and ultimately the tax base, as it will only force more small/marginal businesses to close or start paying under the table.

Burn, baby burn....

 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:54 | Link to Comment akarc
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yepper all them small businesses killed when Walmart moves in cause mericans rather than support their neighbor would prefer to support the slave profiteers.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:01 | Link to Comment The_Dude
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huh??  Coherency is definitely not your strong suit...

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:27 | Link to Comment akarc
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have been accused of being a bit abstract. So thought about clarifying it. Reread it and thought, nah.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:39 | Link to Comment The_Dude
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So you are just a dick then....

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:46 | Link to Comment akarc
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snappy comeback. Understand now why you failed to understand. Try again.  You know say something like, "yo mama"........... stretch your creativity.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 21:00 | Link to Comment The_Dude
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Yo mama said she dropped you on your head and I should excuse your incoherency..... then I said...put it back in your mouth

Is that better? 

BTW....you still haven't explained anything logically but you have rambled on further like a complete idiot.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 17:26 | Link to Comment JR
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It’s ridiculous for anyone to stay in California. It’s now a complete Democrat legislature and governor.  With non-whites heavily out numbering whites, and Hispanics now the majority in California, Republicans can no longer be elected and consequently are unable to do anything in the legislature.

This “mininum“ wage is going to upset the economy and a lot of retired people living on the diminishing purchasing power of Social Security, as well as small businesses who cannot afford these wages especially now with ObamaCare, will have to leave California. Perhaps this is what was intended.

Already, there is white flight.

This is what happens when one Federal judge has the power to overturn the will of the people and to order a people to provide, out of their personal incomes, full benefits for another nation’s illegal and legal aliens.*

The incredible reality of welfare can be shown in a million ways; and Ray Comfort in his book, God Doesn’t Believe in Atheists, gives some examples. These actual sentences were taken from letters received by a large city’s welfare department in applications for support:

“This is my eighth child. What are you going to do about it?”

“Please find for certain if my husband is dead. The man I am now living with can’t eat or do anything till he knows.”

“In answer to your letter, I have given birth to a boy weighing 10 pounds. I hope this is satisfactory.”

“Unless I get my husband’s money pretty soon, I will be forced to live in an immortal life.”

“In accordance with your instructions, I have given birth to twins in the enclosed envelope.”

“I am writing the welfare department to say that my baby was born two years old. When do I get my money?”

*In 1994, California voters voted 59 to 41 percent to approve Proposition 187, the “Save Our State” Initiatives that said California residents were not responsible for the schooling and health care of illegal aliens. It also stepped up labor law and border enforcement. The vote was overturned by a Federal judge. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:57 | Link to Comment forwardho
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We have spawned a new subspecies.

Homo Sapian Parasiticus.

Unable to care for themselves without using the energy of others.

It will of course be a dead end branch.

Long mass die-offs

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:28 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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"We have spawned a new subspecies.

Homo Sapian Parasiticus."

 

I prefer to call them bankers. It's easier to remember.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:23 | Link to Comment akarc
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"Unable to care for themselves without using the energy of others."

We all depend on the energy of others, therefor we are all parasites. Just ask

mother earth and pray she holds off a bit on the yellowstone caldera cause then you be talkin bout some kickass energy. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:57 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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Some friends of mine and I pull shifts as stewards at one of the local homeless shelters.  I was there over the weekend and got to talking with one of the regulars.  Calls himself the "Mayor" of the shelter.  Knows everyone's business - a good egg, more apt to help out than pick your pocket.  Anyway, he tells me about how lucrative it's become for local shop owners to ring up $200 for a pack of gum paid for with a SNAP card, then reimburse the $199.50 in cash to the patron (less a 20% commission of course).  The guy telling me this said he's a "runner" for this activity (because he has a car to take the SNAP card holders to the dealers). 

This is the world in which we live.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:59 | Link to Comment Blood Spattered...
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Wow.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 16:10 | Link to Comment JR
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Over the weekend I was listening to this gal on radio who has a program on technology. A black fellow called in and wanted tips on how to keep from spending most of his money on overages when he’s watching his movies.

He’s not on cable; he’s on satellite. 

The gal, sorry I can’t recall her name at the moment, told him that satellite cost 40 to 60 percent more than cable and that he shouldn’t be on satellite if he can help it. Obviously, he was spending a fortune on overages on these movies, i.e., just about all his discretionary spending income.

Well, he said, I’ve had issues with the cable company.

Said the gal: Well, the satellite company notifies you a little in advance when you’re running out of time and you should stop.

Well, said the guy, I’m unemployed and I’ve got to have something to do.

She concluded: You have access to internet there; use it to look for a job.

Rejoined the guy: Wellll, I might try to get on cable again.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:28 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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Let me understand this correctly. You are LISTENING to a Radio Program and SEE a Black Guy call in.

 

I am absolutely astonished that you can SEE with your EARS. Perhaps you might let other people know how you can do this...you Racist Puke.

 

TYLER...BAN THIS ASSHOLE FOR RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 16:15 | Link to Comment akarc
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Nothing new. Black market for food stamps was high. Buy em for pennies on the dollar from people wanted beer and cigarettes. "I will survive.............."  We have all been corrupted. But kudos for volunteering at the shelter. I would up ya 1000 for that one.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:07 | Link to Comment TideFighter
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As a storeowner, getting approved to accept EBT will double your income, with no increase in tax liability.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:16 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Social Security Disability, Obama phones, free healthcare all help create future Hillary voters. 

The Federal Reserve and QEen Yellen need to print faster. More printed green stuff to buy more debt.

Next debt ceiling target is $25 trillion?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:17 | Link to Comment youngman
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I bet 95% of these people voted for Obama too....

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:17 | Link to Comment akarc
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Bet you would be wrong. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:40 | Link to Comment MieleBauknecht
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Socialism american style: EBT 4 all

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:44 | Link to Comment akarc
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Corporate government American style: All will be slaves.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:58 | Link to Comment Blood Spattered...
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If you like your food stamps, you can keep your food stamps.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 16:18 | Link to Comment Racer
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And in the UK more debt slaves for life were weighed down even further

"In 2012-13 UK universities were allowed to treble their yearly fees to £9,000."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-25761133

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 16:33 | Link to Comment TheKinski
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Wife and I took our toddler twins to IHOP this weekend for pancakes so as to get out of the house in January.

Bill was $42.00, so with tip $50.00.

Dawned on me that if I was making $10.00 an hour, it would have taken me over 1/2 a day to pay for it.

Think about that. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 17:27 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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If you were making that much you woudn't be working at IHOP.  Image what a server making less than $10/hr thinks when witnessing a group of 4 people pay $50 for a meal that costs $15 if made at home.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 17:57 | Link to Comment roadhazard
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What about those welfare Queens and Hippies. they need to quit sponging off the tax payers and get a job.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 18:04 | Link to Comment Daisy Duke
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This is all by design. Read this article: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/25/war-on-poverty-50th...  Excellent depiction of how the government has taken us from self-sufficiency to dependency.

3 generations ago my great-grandparents were dirt poor in Appalachia, but had a garden and animals to survive on. My grandparents left all of that but still retained the skills. 

My baby boomers parents had little to none of these self-sufficient skills but didn't care.

I am trying to learn but it is tough in suburbia to make a go of it. Tough but not impossible, as many of you have discovered through urban homesteading. This will have to be our future. Amazing how what goes around comes around.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 20:36 | Link to Comment robnume
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You Denverites have some amazingly great ideas. I live in the North Bay of SF, near the vineyards. This would be a good area to start such indoor gardening for food. But it's so damned expensive to live here; rents are exorbitant. Hmm, maybe a move to Denver is in order. I like the positive and helpful discourse that Denver Dolomte, etc. exhibit. Wish my neighbors were like them.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 21:05 | Link to Comment monad
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50 million Americans forceably unemployed by foreign spies in our government
50 million illegal infiltrators aided by foreign spies in our government
= QUANTITATIVE EASING

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:18 | Link to Comment gwar5
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Of course. And normally this sort of thing would cause panic amongst politicians but they are the ones ecstatic about it. The MSM covers the devastation up and there are millions more dependent on the increasingly authoritarian government.

Matt Drudge tweet, "Have an exit plan."

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 22:44 | Link to Comment deerhunter
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I am heading to Ohio to help cut, wrap and freeze 4 grass fed steers.  I will return with  a 1/4 of fine beef for my freezer.  No USDA.  No middle man.  No taxes.  No overhead but a refrigererated trailer.  We kill,  dress and skin and halve one week and process the next week.  Barter,  coming to a neighborhood near you.  Get to know your neighbors now.  Share your skills and knowledge.  Know their leanings and preferences.  If and when SHTF it is going to be too late to find out what the guy five doors down thinks about the situation.  There is an ill wind blowing and it is best to prpare now.  The "Great Society" was the first gong in the death knells of our country.  The "War on Poverty", "War on Drugs"  pick one. I don't recognize my country when I look around.  I have to screw my thinking down tightly and remain thankful.  Attitude is everything.  Stay hungry.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:04 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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I just nuked a rather long post on this subject. Reading over it, it just seemed like everything has already been said about America's troubles. Some blame the 1% most blame the 99%. I blame globalization which has been in the works for well over 30 years. Nobody who blames the poor for their own plight, ever seems to want to address how these people compete with Chinese, Indian, Vietnamese and all the others of the third world. To compete on wages means, a average American worker taking home around $500 a month tops. Now that seems to suit many Americans as just fine, whatever the market determines right? Well, as a young child I saw when all American men had jobs, most of them pretty decent paying, now I am older and I see the globalized America, sadly the contrast is enough to make a person ill. When do some people admit, they like seeing people put into poverty and working for wages that can't even meet the rent on a shit hole and a bread and water diet. For myslef, I have never taken pleasure in watching AMerica's workers sink lower and lower every decade. We know where the income growth is, we know where the wage declines are. If this keeps up, America will be a majority third world nation. From what I read, this will please many people to no end. I wonder, what that is really all about, what mental need some people have to rejoice in this collapse of the 99%.

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