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Should The Fed Stop The Dominoes From Falling?

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Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith of OfTwoMinds blog,

The forest (the economy) can only remain vibrant and healthy if the dead wood is burned off in bankruptcy and insolvency. Retail commercial real estate is over-built and over-leveraged. If it is allowed to burn off as Nature intended, we can finally move forward.

Last week I suggested that Retail-CRE (Commercial Real Estate) would be The First Domino to Fall in the domestic U.S. economy. The reason is simple supply and demand: for a variety of structural reasons, there is an enormous oversupply of retail commercial space and an ever-declining demand for bricks-n-mortar commercial space.

I laid all this out in a three-part series last week:

Dead Mall Syndrome: The Self-Reinforcing Death Spiral of Retail (January 22, 2014)
The First Domino to Fall: Retail-CRE (Commercial Real Estate) (January 21, 2014)

After Seven Lean Years, Part 2: US Commercial Real Estate: The Present Position and Future Prospects (January 20, 2014)

I've prepared a graphic depiction of dominoes falling that depicts the causal chain:

1. Standard-Issue Financial Pundits (SIFP) underestimate the CRE implosion, just as they underestimated the domino-like consequence of subprime residential mortgages blowing up in 2007-2008.

2. Few grasp how over-leveraged CRE is, so the "surprise" will be considerable, i.e. the shock-and-awe of malls being recognized as near-worthless will be outsized.

3. Occupancy and lease rates plummet in retail, resorts and office space.

4. These dynamics (fewer leases and lower lease rates) push leveraged owners of CRE into bankrupty.

(Recall that rolling over existing mortgages doesn't increase dwindling cash flow.)
5. The Fed may want to add $1 trillion in impaired commercial real estate mortgages to its bloated $4 trillion balance sheet, but the bond market may question yet another open-ended bailout of the Fed's cronies, i.e. the banks who foolishly lent monumental sums against marginal commercial properties.

6. The lenders foolish enough to leverage loans against phantom collateral fail as $1+ trillion in CRE loans default.

7. The "recovery" in the U.S. economy is revealed as just another fiction sold as fact by the Fed, the political Status Quo, the organs of Federal propaganda, etc. 

(The Recent "New High" in Stocks Is as Bogus as the Unemployment Rate January 25, 2014)

Here's the key issue at stake: propping up failed private enterprises with Fed or Federal money throws up roadblocks to the real growth of our economy. Rather than bail out more banks and save over-valued, over-leveraged mall owners from the consequences of the economy changing, we should be casting off what's been holding the economy back--phantom assets, debt that should be written off and failed financial sectors bailed out with taxpayer funds and Fed trickery.

The question shouldn't be could the Fed bail out the imploding retail-commercial real estate (CRE) sector? but should the Fed bail out the imploding retail-CRE sector?

We may as well ask if the Fed should have bailed out the buggy whip industry in 1914. The retail-CRE sector is imploding for a very good reason: speculators built way too much space with way too much credit and leverage supplied by banks emboldened by the notion that the Fed will never let crony-capitalists suffer the consequences of their insanely risky bets.

On top of that cheap-credited-fueled over-building, Web shopping and the systemic decline in household income for the bottom 90% (please look at the income charts in The First Domino to Fall) have undercut the need for ever-more commercial real estate space.

In any economy with the slightest bit of free enterprise still left breathing, the retail CRE sector would be allowed to go bankrupt and all those exposed to the risks (mall owners, banks with CRE loans, etc.) would absorb the losses. Anything less than the creative destruction of a failed sector that time has passed by will impede the economy in terribly negative ways.

Yes, the Fed can print up another $1 trillion and buy every CRE loan that's worth $1 for $1 million and bury the defaulted loan away from public view. But should it be allowed to do so? Should the Fed's role of savior of every crony-capitalist in America who loses a leveraged bet go unchallenged?

Should the Fed end up owning every dead mall in America so the owners and lenders can be cashed out at a fat profit? Janet Yellen, the Nation's New Chief Slumlord (January 9, 2014)

Should the Fed be allowed free rein to bail out its owners (private banks) and crony capitalists with limitless newly created money? Is that what the U.S. is all about now, bailing out failed speculative bets by crony capitalists and banks? Most commentators believe the Fed has a totally free hand to create as much money as it wants whenever it wants and to use those funds to bail out banks and speculators by buying their defaulted mortgages and hiding them away in the Fed balance sheet.

But I believe the political resistance to this neofeudal arrangement is rising, and the Fed's ability to bail out crony capitalists and banks is not as infinite as its supporters believe. The bond market might start pricing in negative consequences to the Fed floating yet another $1+ trillion bailout of super-wealthy cronies.

Maybe the public will finally tire of yet more bailouts of the super-wealthy and their failed sectors and failed bets. Maybe the Nation's New Chief Slumlord, Janet Yellen, will hesitate to pursue Ben Bernanke's policy of bailing out every failed crony capitalist regardless of the costs to the nation's economy and the injustice of backstopping foolish risks made for private gain.

"It can't happen here" includes the Fed. The average SIFP (Standard-Issue Financial Pundit) believes the Fed is politically unconstrained as a matter of unquestioned fact, on the order of a belief in a Cargo Cultish quasi-religion such as Keynesian "stimulus." (Wow, Paul Krugman can really dance the humba-humba and wave a dead chicken!)

Just as it turns out "it can happen here" (runaway central state suppression, spying, etc.), the Fed can encounter political limits on its Grand Plan of bailing out every crony capitalist in America.

Maybe we should let the retail CRE sector go the way of the buggy whip manufacturers instead of bailing out every super-wealthy crony involved in the orgy of over-building and over-leverage. The forest (the economy) can only remain vibrant and healthy if the dead wood is burned off in bankruptcy and insolvency. One of the biggest pile of dead wood in the U.S. is retail-CRE. If it is allowed to burn off as Nature intended, we can finally start moving forward.

 

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Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:14 | 4371277 unrulian
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Gravity is a Bitch-ez

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:16 | 4371280 So Close
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Should or will?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:24 | 4371308 Headbanger
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FUCK NO!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:45 | 4371367 Gankfest
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Only a matter of time...

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:50 | 4371625 MisterMousePotato
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The forest (the economy) can only remain vibrant and healthy if the dead wood is burned off in bankruptcy and insolvency.

Remember the movie, Being There, with Peter Sellers?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:56 | 4371971 ATM
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Our forest is now growing not from solid ground but from a rotten platform of dead trees that are not allowed to decompose.

The rot is being forestalled but it cannot be put off indefinitely. At some point the entire structiure will simply collapse and everything will come down together, good trees, dead trees, diseased trees..... all of it. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:24 | 4372088 Emergency Ward
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  • ALLENBY -- It's happening to everyone, I'm afraid. The way things are going they'll probably legislate the Medical Profession, as we know it, right out of existence.
  •  CHANCE -- Yes. Right out of existence.
Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:17 | 4371448 Theosebes Goodfellow
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This was, and will continue to be, all about bailing out the TBTF banks. Everyone else can consume feces and expire. And this action will continue until the banks' protector, the Fed, collapses because the exchange rate of their "promissory notes", i.e. dollars, devalues to zero.

Things die. Big things die slower, but die just the same. Sometimes it is hard to tell when something really, really big has died. It takes quite a while to be able to declare it dead, as portions of it have been moribund for a long time and whilst presumed alive were actually deceased. The Fed is really, really big. Is the Fed cooked? It's hard to tell. I can though tell you with a fair amount of certainty, it's toast.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:42 | 4371581 Headbanger
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No.  The TBTF banks know they can't be bailed out again so they're covering their assets big time here.

It's the Federal Government that's in deep shit now cause the big banks are not playing the QE game any longer to bail out the US Treasury

So expect the US Government to default on s few things soon and tax rates to soar across the board!

 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:27 | 4371796 SDShack
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The TBTF banks WILL be bailed out because they are all run by sociopaths just like the Fed. Just look at the never ending bailouts in the EU. Sociopaths only do what they have always done to get where they are at. They never change. In fact, when confronted with the failure of their own plan, they double down or go all in on the same disasterous plan, even if it eventually means their own destruction. It is the frog and scorpion analogy. It's how sociopaths think. The Federal Govt, and the Federal Reserve and the TBTF banks are all one and the same. They all exist together only for each other, not for anyone else. It's what sociopaths do. This entire world cluster fuck is going to continue forever, until it doesn't. Bailouts will continue, debt will skyrocket, and taxes and wealth distribution from the massess to the elites will accelerate. It will break eventually, by something no one sees coming. Plan accordingly.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:55 | 4371968 yogy999
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Perfect!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:33 | 4371338 vmromk
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You are asking the CRIMINALS at the Federal Reserve to do the right thing ?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:10 | 4371432 zorba THE GREEK
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Looks like PPT has their hands full with the S&P today and here comes gold back after being

monkey-hammered all morning. The real question is can the Fed bail out every bubble they

have created since 2007. That would take multiples of their present balance sheet. 

Yes " Gravity IS a bitch "

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:53 | 4371639 Woodhippie
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Gravity.  Not just a good idea, it's the LAW.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:27 | 4371808 Offthebeach
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PPT= Plunger Provider Team. This shit is going to be shoved down the peoples throats no matter what.

It's for the children ( if any non Section 8ers could afford any. )

FORWARD!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 16:52 | 4372420 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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"Multiples of their current balance sheet" Mm-hmm, that is EXACTLY what they have in mind. One of the Regional Fed governors told Kyle Bass that "he saw no problem with the Fed going to $6 or $9 trillion if required"

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:25 | 4371312 thunderchief
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I believe the fed will stick to its taper policy, as the priority is saving the dollar, pushing treasury purchases to the private sector, and lots of smoke and mirrors in emerging markets to distract from their horrible failures.

2014 will be about saving the dollar and shoving bonds down the private sectors throats, IRA and 401k's included.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:27 | 4371812 RebelDevil
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If that is true, then 2014= 2008 = 2000.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:47 | 4371378 rubiconsolutions
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"Gravity is a Bitch-ez"

Like the guy that falls from the top of a skyscraper and when he gets to the 3rd floor thinks to himself, "so far, so good". It's not the fall that gets you, it's the sudden stop.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:16 | 4371282 Bearwagon
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I dare you, I double-dare you, damned assholes!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:17 | 4371288 SheepDog-One
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The Fed can't stop the dominoes from falling, they can only make them appear to fall slower.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:49 | 4371379 Son of Captain Nemo
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Boy frame that one, along with a DoJ that no longer will prosecute criminals that ply their trade by buying there way into D.C.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:17 | 4371292 q99x2
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The FED should get on that spaceship to Mars because the entire world is about to come and haul their asses to jail.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:17 | 4371293 Cursive
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Better question:  (Other than buying time), can they?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:18 | 4371294 fijisailor
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The FED only stops large dominoes from falling.  There are millions of little ones falling every day.  A better analogy would be a suspension bridge.  If you cut all the support cables can the roadway be self supporting?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:19 | 4371297 denverdolomte
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Can Obama handle foreign policy?

Did Bernanke save Main Street?

Are paper notes backed by anything than the green stains in Yellen's undies?

Has the government / centeral planner done anything beneficial for America?

 

I could go on but seem to continually get the same answer again and again. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:27 | 4371305 SheepDog-One
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I laughed out loud yesterday on one of the Sunday 'inside the beltway' talking head shows when I heard some fiancial bankster pundit say they have it all under control because everyone trusts 'the full faith and credit of the US. govt'....holy shit if that's all they've got, promies that I'll work hearder and pay back their wild cash infusion sprees, then they have no idea how fucked they really are!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:26 | 4371315 denverdolomte
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Are you serious? Thats hilarious, was it a comedy schtick or some banker really believing himself? 

 

Hahha, yeah I don't even give a shit anymore, these idiots are so fucked and have no idea just how bad they fucked up it's become hilarious. 

 

I have a great 4G setup so I am not worried. (Guns, Gold, Greens, & Goods) 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:51 | 4371623 Woodhippie
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"4g" setup.  Love that.  If you don't mind I think I will borrow that one.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:21 | 4371300 Dr. Engali
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Should we allow the fed to continue? NO! NO! NO!...Hell NO!.....Will we? YES!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:21 | 4371301 NoDebt
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"Yes, the Fed can print up another $1 trillion and buy every CRE loan that's worth $1 for $1 million and bury the defaulted loan away from public view. But should it be allowed to do so? Should the Fed's role of savior of every crony-capitalist in America who loses a leveraged bet go unchallenged?"

And who, exactly, is going to challenge it?  Name the party with a vested interest in doing so and enough pull to significantly affect Fed (or really, any government) policies in any way.

First person who says "the American people" gets a 2x4 to the back of the head.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 17:37 | 4372521 NihilistZero
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Hit the nail on the head!  This slow motion trainwreck will playout over the next few decades.  The "profit" from each "bubble" allows the banking sector to cover the losses of the previous.  If you don't participate in the bubble in some way you don't profit, which in fact eans you lose because you've got inflation coming up your rear end.  Who would haev thought going broke defending a shitty little country in South East Asia (or better known as bailing out the MIC) 50 years ago would still haunt us today...

Anyway, time the bubbles, don't fight the FED and do your best everybody.  I doubt we're going Mad Max it's just a slow drag along the bottom until soething truly revolutionary in the bio-engineering or energy sectors come along

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:24 | 4371307 yogibear
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"The FED only stops large dominoes from falling."

More reason for the big players to be irresponsible. The top managers can suck all the funds out and get bailed out. Rinse and repeat.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:25 | 4371310 BadDog
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As General Jack Ripper said, the only course of action is total commitment. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:24 | 4371311 LawsofPhysics
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PLease, don't overthink this folks. The "dominoes will fall" when TPTB want the domines to fall.  The question is, what assets of real value will you and your tribe have when they do?

hedge accordingly.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 17:16 | 4372530 NihilistZero
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TPTB determine much of what has "real value" if holding gold privately is declared illegal it could make it harder to barter for necessities.  Real Estate is only as valuable as the institutions and/or weapons that protect it.  Even the ost ardent doomsday prepper must admit he does not know what will happen...

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:27 | 4371314 ejmoosa
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But we already know the Recovery is bogus....

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:37 | 4371348 LawsofPhysics
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I was going to say, I think his dominoes are out of order.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:27 | 4371318 trebled99
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Let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the floor!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:29 | 4371323 NoWayJose
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The Fed is not just bailing out the big banks, it is encouraging them to over build and over leverage.  The reason there is a problem in commercial real estate is that we bailed out the over-leverated banks and them gave them more ammo to leverage even more.  Commerical real estate cannot recover because we never cleared out the dead wood from 2008/2009 - meaning the big banks that should have failed, and the housing market that should have deflated to be in line with incomes.  This didn't happen, so the customers who might otherwise shop at commercial real estate stores cannot afford to do so; small businesses that might open in strip malls do not have enough customers to stay open or make it affordable to open a new business; and office space in commercial real estate is not needed because there is no need for managers or supervisors or service businesses that would other wise need or want such space.  The only commercial real estate that still seems to be doing well is -- BANKS!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:39 | 4371356 i_call_you_my_base
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Agree with you. What's ironic is that by juicing the RE market they destroyed brick and morter margins, and with the alternative and low-overhead of online purchasing, it amounts to a death knell. Unintended consequences and all of that.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:30 | 4371327 madcows
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Won't be allowed to happen.  B/c all the banks would be bankrupt, and there would be a bank run.  There are already withdrawl limits going on in other countries.  we're next.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:34 | 4371329 medium giraffe
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The only real influence the Fed has is dictating the rate at which the USD becomes less valuable than dogshit.

 

 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:48 | 4371334 cowdiddly
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Well the "All Knowing Omnipotent" Fed is in control of the printer. And with recent advances in 3D printing, in the not to distant future, they can just print up more cronys or more debt slaves as the economic system demands.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:35 | 4371347 buttmint
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...the article pretty much echoes what James Kunstler has been chronicling since the 1990s: all of suburbia is the greatest (mis) allocation of wealth and assets in mankind's short history.

Ya gotta love Kunstler's flamboyance and humour. His rants. "The Geography of No-Where" will brings tears of joys and sadness to your countenance.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:38 | 4371352 Jason T
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The forest (the economy) can only remain vibrant and healthy if the dead wood is burned off in bankruptcy and insolvency. Retail commercial real estate is over-built and over-leveraged. If it is allowed to burn off as Nature intended, we can finally move forward.

 

Tis why the bible says "rejoice in your sufferings."  To bring about a greater good.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:38 | 4371355 Pumpkin
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Where the hell is the Fed domino in that picture?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:18 | 4371483 waterhorse
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The Creature from Jekyll Island hides under all those dominoes.  That's why you didn't see it in the illustration.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:45 | 4371363 Hayabusa
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Look, the system runs on complaint tax slaves to finance the federal gubmint and their precious special interest pet projects, war mongering, etc.  We are nothing more than "energy producers" for the matrix... they may pretend to care about us, but in reality they only care about the tax revenue each of us generates for their corrupt system to use as THEY please.  We are just tools out here to them, no more, no less.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:48 | 4371380 undercover brother
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It is idiotic to even think for one second that any "crony", especially those who provide the massive political contributions, will be allowed to go bankrupt.  TPTB will come up with some lame reason, like nation security, and bail them all out again. sure, the people will bitch and moan, but are powerless and can do nothing.  This is what america has become. get used to it.  you're either in with the politicians or you're no one.  

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:53 | 4371396 Hayabusa
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Undercover brother hit the nail on the head - only the cronies and their contributors will be "protected"... not you, not me.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:13 | 4371459 therevolutionwas
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Bankster + Politicians = Mafia style fascist government. 

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:54 | 4371394 ebworthen
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The FED wants nothing to burn, other than the middle class.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:57 | 4371403 Hayabusa
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And why are they trying to burn the middle class?  Because as discussed in Davos, they are going to hit the "reset button" and when they do the middle class needs to be just as broke as the lower class in order to assure compliance from the majority.  Once we're all on the "same boat"... i.e., broke... THEN they can hit the reset button w/o much resistance from the debt slaves... the middle class in particular.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 12:56 | 4371404 BuddyEffed
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I've seen CHS make honorable mention to crucial energy issues in previous posts of his, but comments like the below indicates that his analyses aren't consistent in recognizing the serious role that energy has played in growth, and will play in the end of growth.

"Here's the key issue at stake: propping up failed private enterprises with Fed or Federal money throws up roadblocks to the real growth of our economy."

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:01 | 4371408 GooseShtepping Moron
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There is only one word in the OP that I strongly disagree with -- neofeudal.

When modern libertarians hurl this word around like an epithet, I can only conclude that they have little idea what feudalism really was or that most people were rather content under it. Indeed almost everything that is roundly and rightly abhorred on this forum, from fiat currency to fractional reserve banking to usury to the bureaucratic absolute state, would have been unthinkable under feudalism and arose out of the rebellion against it. The idea that feudalism and not modernity is the true tyrant is part and parcel of that Whig-historical outlook which created all those other monstrosities.

I anticipate down arrows for saying this, but that's okay if it promps somebody to think about it. And you don't have to take my word for it, either. You can always see Aristotle, or St. Thomas Aquinas, or de Maistre, or Pobedonostev, or (more recently) Mencius Moldbug.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:43 | 4371517 falak pema
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Let me try :

Your affirmation that feudalism were "good times" is what causes the dissonance in my mind; particularly your belief that "dumbed down happy  serfs" conjures up visions that that was a natural condition in conformity with a  resurgent belief in this crisis of the  "social darwinism" meme in contemporary society.

Thats like saying the black slaves were content at Tara in Gone with the wind days; a simplification at best unless you be Margaret Michell's progeny. 

St Thomas of Aquinas had as defining expression, to limit the introduction of Aristotelian incursions into the christian faith; as expressed by its best advocate of that age : the Moor Averroes,  the sentiment : Man must choose between imperfect human logic and perfect divine revealed logic. And, for a true christian no explanation of that choice is necessary. Whereas for the heathen no explanation will ever be sufficient.

That type of logic is the essence of what irrigated feudal intellectual minds : you were damned if you doubted in the creationist dogma. And ofcourse  Galileo's famous words in front of the Inquisition --who forced him to renege on his belief in Copernicus's theory of the world turning on its axis in a heliocentric universe-- summed up that debate between Science and Aquinas's obscurantist dogmatism : "And yet IT TURNS !" (referring to the Earth as seen through his telescope by him and by others; thus objectively confirmed). 

From that day onwards Saint Aquinas and his Summa were dead meat in the European age, as is true for Margaret Mitchell's message in her passionate novel.

A novel is not truth its legend.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:56 | 4371917 MisterMousePotato
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Fascinating that one would invoke the name of Galileo Galilei in an attack on 'Creationists' and 'Creationism'.

Unintentional irony?

Don't think, either, that all such closemindedness always has a religious angle. Consider, for example, the treatment of Pasteur and Lister.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:35 | 4371553 hyperbole2000
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Up yours.

To them it would have appeared almost as incredible for the animal-people to turn on their masters as it would be for us to conceive our dogs banding together and hunting us down in packs. One dog might prove rebellious but we would never expect all the rebellious dogs to unite with horses and other beasts, as we are their divinely appointed masters.

The English Peasants' Revolt of 1381

http://www.loyno.edu/~history/journal/1986-7/milone.htm

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:36 | 4371556 Rafferty
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Up arrow from me.  The more I see the more I believe the "self-evident" superiority of modern structures and mores to be very far from self-evident.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:02 | 4371411 darteaus
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"The forest (the economy) can only remain vibrant and healthy if the dead wood is burned off..."

Yes, but the termites (bankers, politicians) feasting on the dead wood don't want the fire to start until some green shoots appear and the rodents (middle class) are lured into the false growth.  Then the fire can begin.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:20 | 4371494 waterhorse
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Termites (bankers) and saprophytes (politicians).

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:03 | 4371413 El Vaquero
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Should we get hit with a 350kt warhead today, or should we get hit by a 475kt warhead later?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:32 | 4371825 Bearwagon
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That strongly depends on our distance to ground zero.  :)

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:22 | 4371501 bagehot99
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When the political class is so utterly illiterate, and innumerate, the Fed can do as it damn well pleases. 

The politicians will buy the disaster narrative if they let the loans default and the malls close (where will all Obama's college grads work if Forever 21 closes?), and the Fed will act to protect its owners (as all organizations do).

And its owners are not you.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 13:38 | 4371562 alangreedspank
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There is no dominoes. They've already been scraped and sent to China for them to manufacture stuff with them.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:04 | 4371699 Spungo
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"they have it all under control because everyone trusts"
Pray hard enough and the tornado won't hit your house. Good luck with that theory!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:12 | 4371739 lunaticfringe
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The only way this country will ever pay what it currently owes is via a hyper inflation scenario. There is no leadership in this country- so the hard work that it would take to right the course will never happen.

There are over 500 vacant commercial properties for rent or sale in Boise.

The buffett of consequences is here. Reserve your seat.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 17:37 | 4372603 NihilistZero
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Doesn't haev to be hyperinflationary.  Just a long drawn out spiral of inflation.  IE the FED will not see it's balance sheet decrease.  Ever.  Current treasuries will be held to term and new "debt" will be "purchaesd".  Dollar Tree becoe 10 Dollar Tree a few decades fro now but the short attention span serfs don't notice a thing.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 14:24 | 4371797 andrewp111
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I wouldn't bet on CRE collapsing anytime soon. Banks can just roll loans over indefinately, as they have done in Japan for 25 years. The Fed doesn't have to do anything other than look the other way. income producing property loans are a lot easier to simply roll over as long as the payments are being made. It is not like residential, where the borrowers simply default.  They have been extending and pretending CRE since the 2008 collapse - why should they stop now?

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:58 | 4372240 financialrealist
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I agree...the only question is the magnitude and the timing of the bulge.  

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:15 | 4372052 Alananda
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When DHS/FEMA runs out of currently seconded room -- NFL and MLB ball parks -- deals with shopping centers sure to follow.

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 15:43 | 4372174 MFLTucson
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NO!

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 20:22 | 4373102 Playtime's Over
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Nihilist Zero......you state the fed can keep this scam going for decades of downward spiral? I'm talking about the average Joe. Not wall streeters.  Do you realize how incredibly depressing that statement is?  Feakin, I can't begin to accept or believe that even if it's true.  I would need quite a load of prozac to live my last decades in this feces.  Fck this new normal.  

Mon, 01/27/2014 - 23:12 | 4373744 Playtime's Over
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Besides, just seems like math to me Granted I don't have a good concept of how much debt in out there now.  Large numbers just don't  have the impact if there is no consequeces? But...having said that and weakening my case.......there are so many different variables that would eventually work against thier perfect plans. I believe the fed "thinks" they have it figured out but they can not completely sway reality from the real forces of the market forever.

Tue, 01/28/2014 - 05:25 | 4374296 eucalyptus
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upcoming CRE meltdown is too obvious and anything that can be done to hasten it should be pursued.

 

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