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"Fed Has Fingers & Thumbs On The Scales Of Finance," Grant Tells Santelli And It "Will End Badly"
In a mere 140 seconds, Jim Grant explains to an almost stunned into silence Rick Santelli how we all "live in a valuation hall of mirrors" as the Fed manipulates everything. Thanks to it's "fingers and thumbs on the scales of finance," Grant continues, the Fed "insists on saving us from 'everyday low prices'" - what they call deflation - and by doing so it manufactures "redundant credit" which "does mischief" in and out of markets. Grant, ominously concludes, "there is no suspense as to how [this will] end... [it will] end badly."
Must watch... (especially for EM asset managers)...
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Sever Roots Tree Dies
End the Fed before the Fed ends us.
And tell two friends this to tell two friends, please.
Huh...
Santelli and Grant?
CNBS is seriously worried about boosting their ratings!
Could you imagine what it would be like if it were real economic and financial reporting?
Yes, Knukies, the telly reporters would all be in the Northern Arkansas Nucleotide Reprocessing and Vegetable Washing Faciltiy #3 and the network shuttered.
There's no comeback from that ditty.
End badly for who? Certainly not the fat cats!
They love their ladies loose and monetary policy looser.
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2014/01/keiser-report-endless-fiat-money-s...
Now, now.........
who doesn't like money for nothing and chicks for free?
There's a scene in the movie Wolf of Wall Street where a broker shows up at a bucket shop wearing a bow tie. The head crook takes one look at him and fires him.
I thought of Jim Grant when I saw that.
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i will give them til 2016 for there end badly to come true.
this i can say with confidence:2.5 ten year sooon
1750 s and p sooon
jpy 1.02 sooon
then, well all bets off.
one thing for sure, world fundamental deteriorating.
paper chase is on>trace hot money(always after best return whether rational or not).
i choose to watch, listen then comment...
all cash for the GREAT WOOOSH coming sooon...
If you want your 401K......you can keep your 401K.
i liquidated all 403b assets to cash for the great wooosh.
how about you? 1/4 AU?
sitting on a farmstead, playing the grains?
you knowledge makes for easy living-congrats.
a savy farmer with all due respect!
Mmmhmm... ZH is the closest thing we have to real economic/finance reporting.
Fingers & thumbs soon to be replaced by Yellen's fat ass in full-out QE-diarrhea mode!
but she gotsta wait a month before coming out with a shift in the drift - otherwise itll look like a panic response
how far we gonna fall in the next 30 days ?
But...this was on CNBC? :P
Northern Arkansas Nucleotide Reprocessing and Vegetable Washing Faciltiy #3..
Are they hiring and do they have a myRa?
if there was real and honest reporting their ratings would soar - why cant they figure this out
Ron Paul for prez. Santelli for Treasury Secy, Grant for Fed Chair
There is zero need for a fed chair, much less a fed.
the FED...
Slap!!
Time to Die
It's gonna take one hell of an exorcism.
I hope pea soup doesn't make you squeamish.
Grant has been posed the question what would he do if he was the fed chair, and he says the first thing would be to end the fed, hence abolishing his job.
So maybe Jim would be he best fed chairman because he would end it.
Implied in my comment, at least in my small brain, is the notion that Grant would dismantle "right said Fed."
right now the FED is the weapon for the elite. Nothing more nothing less.
santelly forgot to tell people the U.S. stocks are on pace to close a volatile January in the red, after posting the best yearly gain in 16 years.
There is that saying on wall street.... "As January goes, so goes the year?"
but right now, the market is in a massive massive 30 points VIOLENT SWING SEE HERE => http://bit.ly/1iS4a8v
Anyone trading the last few days, has had their nuts in a vice.
I've been waiting for the collapse for the last five years. Never seems to happen. I see Japan-style endless recession, not Zimbabwe.
Given a choice, i'll take a Japan-style endless recession over Zimbabwe.
Gold has done well priced in Yen over the last decade and without hyperinflation to boot.
All very true, both of you. However, don't think just because Japan has gone Zimbabwe yet, they won't. Our future probably holds a long Japan style decline, which will lead to moar central planning, until eventually you get your Zimbabwe shit storm. That's the problem you get when all these decisions are made by central planners who pay no price for being wrong.
Japan, was in survival mode for two decades because others were doing better and Japanese companies were showing profits as the BOJ was winking when to expatriate yen and when to repatriate yen, thus the round trip at the right time produced their profits. Now however, the world is in Japan's position and in a currency race to the bottom everyone loses except gold holders.
That is why Central Banksters will die or have us die in wars instead, before they let gold price go to the moon and expose them.
KILL THE BEAST NOW.......
All central banks must be shut-down. Monetary issuance must return under the electorate’s control.
Hopefully, this can be achieved without wars and limited to a few bankers falling of the 35th floor.
The next time Jim Grant is right will be the first time.
Really?
From Financial Times.
"If Grant could see what was happening this clearly,” wrote John Authors of the staff of the FT, “and warn of it in a well-circulated publication, how did the world’s financial regulators fail to avert the crisis before it became deadly, and how did the rest of us continue to make the irrational investing decisions..."
Ooh! Alaric's done you, mate. You look like a right twat.
"So, a smart question to ask at this time is: Is the moment in time we're in today closer to January 2006, when there were several years left of exuberance to ride? Or is it more like September 2008, poised at the precipice?
A smarter answer is: There's no way to know with acceptable certainty.
Like grains of sand piling up or snowflakes falling on a cornice, we can assess the growing level of risk, but we can't identify the grain of sand or snowflake that will cause the eventual cascade. We can't predict the collapse timing with confidence. We can – and will – continue to make our best-educated estimates, but the exact timing is unknowable.
So, given that fact, as John Hussman so pithily captures, bubble markets force us to make a choice:
And so your choice is upon you. Look at the evidence around you – a movie nearly identical to one you saw in 2000 and again in 2008 – and either decide to party with the herd while the music plays (look smart today), or park yourself in safety now (look smart tomorrow).
Since the timing of the next correction is unknowable, the prudent choice is obvious. But it's not easy, for all of the reasons mentioned at the start of this article."
~ Adam Taggart
Grant is always worth listening to. Babaloo, replace your crack with weed, it doesnt kill as many brain cells.
Civil Disobedience anyone?
"Withholding payment of taxes is one of the quickest methods of overthrowing a government"
Mahatma Gandhi
But then there's always green shoots.
The shortest statement would be
Fed has FUBAR'D the markets-not going to end well
first!
edit: argh! or not
some firsts are moar equal than others.
1913
1933
1971
Inflation favors the thief; deflation favors the honest citizen.
Can you please tell me how deflation benefited the farmers of America in the 1880's, and how it affected the honest citizens during the Great Depression?
The closest we've come to a sweeping round of deflation was 2008/9, and it would appear that the majority of "honest citizens" are still trying to find jobs, pay bills, and dig themselves out of the ditch.
I'm betting that you're from the South.... ????
>> just tell me that you're from Texas or the South and I'll understand
Well lookie what we got here, one of them educated, high and mighty bigots. Suck my neighbor's dog's dick, jackass.
Thank you. Saved me the trouble.
1880's LOL that's a timely comparison.....
@ C&M
When the value of a currency goes up, so does its purchasing power. As prices of real things decline, if you hold that currency, you can do more with it. During the Great Depression they understood that simple fact. In 1932 Eddie Cantor had a number one hit named Nows the Time to Fall in Love. Check it out. It says it all:
"Potatoes are cheaper
Tomatoes are cheaper
Now's the time
To fall in love
Why, the butcher, the baker,
And the candlestick maker
All gave their price
A downward shove
Grab yourself someone
To fry your eggs and bacon
Why, she can live just like a queen
On what you're makin'
'Cause this and that's a lot cheaper
And a flat's a lot cheaper
So, Honey, now's the time
To fall in love"
You are probably mistaking the loss of jobs during deflationary times as the symptom of the deflation. This is where you may be miffed. The cause for the loss of jobs was the expansion, inflation, prior to the deflation. The deflation is the fix.
Pay the fuck attention!
Again...it was neither the inflation, nor the necessary and subsequent deflation, which hurt farmers. It was government fucking around with the money supply.
Ok. You are REALLY close on this one....just a little bit further.
Fucking around with the monetary supply IS by definition inflation (expanding money supply) and deflation (contracting money supply).....
During the the teens & 20's government intervention in farm pricing caused the expansion of wheat farming in an area that could not ecologically support that. The government actually gave people free train rides out to develope a grassland region that was eventually became a wasteland due to improper governemnt meddling. The government was the primary cause of the great depression in every way. Read "The Worst Hard Times". Great account of all this. Get educated before mouthing off on Zero Hedge.
That wasn't much better. If you want to talk firsts then go back to 1789, but that's only where America is concerned. You can't even know the year this began because it happened before a flood came and nearly wiped out the planet aeons ago.
I am Chumbawamba.
Thank you.
F-ing amazing how many people have no idea of singularity of lore, myth and reality
As above, so below.
Stack On
Thanks.
I'll be sure to extrapolate CNBS (on the FED) to how Ben and Janet are centuries removed money-changing cousins next time.
NOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Speaking of 1913...
Picking up a 1913 British Sovereign this weekend.
It's a symbolic thing really, owning a gold coin from the year the Fed was birthed. Every gold bug should have one.
Ah, the gold coin. At first I thought you were gonna romance the Queen.
Romancing the Queen of England....
I liken it to sticking your dick into a warm bucket of chum, imagine the smell in that room after a few hundred pumps
A few hundred? You are making love not butter. The fire of your passion must burn quickly and selfishly. The queen is responsible for her own orgasms.
Make sure you have a 1911 to protect you 1913's.
I have several.
If youre interested .I can dig one up.
You stupid fag, don't bring that shit here. Either post something witty or relevant or go take it to Turd's or some other gay blog.
I am Chumbawamba.
Amen Chumba
You would think that after being here 48 weeks someone would
learn something.
Anybody that lasts more than 4 weeks here is either a ZH bot, or a Tyler.
Funny that the tylers are bashing their own bots, ... must be a slow day
You are correct. I am Tyler Durden.
Then you work for goldman sachs? Or are you just a wannabe?
Nobody likes you even after 4 days.
Why ? Was he supposed to smell better after 4 days ???
Do zombies smell?
Are you a junk collector?
Hahaha. Nice.
He and fonestar, Sanford & Son.
This is the big one!!!
Satoshi is a chicom bot sitting in cubicle 911, don't sweat it
I am Tyler Durden
"Review our notice on Racial Discrimination."
I guess homophobia and hate are ok then
Yeah. Because fags aren't a race.
I am Chumbawamba.
it only takes a few to ruin a once decent site
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in9SiDtJLaU
sorry chumba, yer intellectually outgunned. Steve Hughes has the final word on this topic. Period.
Yahoo headline, "Stock Rallies From Facebook"
May God have mercy on our souls
"Facehugger." Once it lashes on you're nothing but a host for its diabolical plan. Surprisingly true actually.
Nothing "good" makes money.
"Behind all great wealth is a great crime."
And this one...QE...bailouts..."moral hazard"...may have been the greatest crime of all.
"Satan's biggest victory was convincing the world he did not exist."
There is the appearance that everything is being paid for.
But what we really seem to have discovered is that The Lord of the Rings was "real"....that the Fed really is "the one ring to rule them all."
It is ironic that Congress created the Fed because after the knickerbocker crisis (almost IDENTICAL to the crisis in 2008) because "JP Morgan was too powerful." (was it because he was too popular though? That recession was over in less than a year.) It's ironic because "isn't the Fed itself too powerful now?"
What is the purpose of elections?
What is the reason for holding title to property?
Why do we have Government?
If we wanted something better could we get it?
I understand "get with the modern Age. The Internet, etc...didn't exist in 1789." But what did exist was a theory that in land...in places called "territories" one truly could...over a vast expanse and at great risk...be free.
We simply aren't allowed to organize our affairs anymore.
Everything being done now feels like "orders from above"...or else.
Again, I'm just exhausted by it all...
The idea of suburbia killed America.
We never needed that car, that television, that "wife."
The whole thing hasn't just completely failed...the whole has been a fraud..."monetized so that credit could continue to flow to its rightful owner"...the Banks.
The irony being they don't even originate the loans anymore!
This really is "the Wizard of Oz" and the Man Behind the Curtain.
We've exchanged an Iron Curtain and a "Berlin Wall" for printed currency and a War on a Concept.
Where does the contract...ANY contract...between two parties fit in? You know..the "none of your business" law...?
Everything is now in the Public (pubic?) Domain. None of us have "our own business" anymore. We have "hope scholarships" and "Affordable Care" (tm)...lasers in Space...a war effort in place (Just in Case)...
But all we really have...is Fear.
This is not an environment conducive for building a free society.
Failure must be allowed to happen.
And I'm not talking "personal failure"...I'm talking the trillions that need not be spent in order to create a "modeled reality" or "gamed system."
It's not a question of this not being sustainable (maybe in fact it is?)...but that we're all being forced to become a bunch of Osama Bin Ladens here...living in caves, terrified of our own existence.
How is this in any way "free"...or even "legal"????!!!!
+1
For... a good rant.
once you get to know one of the "fucks", then you will understand.
they are wired to make you their "tool" for life.
resist, make you own trail and go get "lost".
The only way to win the game is not to play.
Buy gold, the anti FED
Brass, too.
Just in case.
WTF are we going to do with trumpets in an economic collapse? Use them to herald in the imminently forthcoming chaos, death and destruction?
I am Chumbawamba.
Make music.
Duh.
Hell yeah, gotta have music always. And rapid-fire music, too.
You need percussion with that tune.
Stack On
WTF are we going to do with trumpets in an economic collapse?
They will pound their trumpets into 22LR......and there will be a line around the corner of Walmart to buy it.
Welcome to Hope and ChangeTM.
the band played as the ship sank...
oh, I am always looking for someone to make music with my skin flute....or in my specific case, a skin piccolo.
MSM has now gone FULL RETARD to KILL the FED.
Must be ready for YELLEN to start the narrative of the coming IMF-SDR.
Goldman Sachs must be salivating like Pavlovs Dog.
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USD is not real power for Goldman Sack's, they want to control the world, and have a one world currency.
They want to electronic currency, to control micro-payments everywhere on earth to control and monitor all consumption.
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"KILL THE FED", is just "LIKE PUMP the BITCOIN", ... both programs brought to you by the NSA/CIA, and originated on the 'fringe' ( libertarian ), and then sold to the mainstream.
Don't forget reports of a mere month or so ago, that Goldilocks and Morgue are net long the shiny in their very own little house accounts.
Indeed. Anyone have any idea how much physical gold the banker clans have stolen? I will hazard one guess, more than the gold (that used to be) stored in Fort Knox.
There were reports that it was gone in 1974 - Nelson Rockefeller's secretary, the alleged source of these reports - committed suicide. There are later rumors of tungsten bars coated with gold replacing the bars in Ft. Knox and apparently used elsewhere as well, leading to issues a few years back when some surfaced in deliveries to China.
However, there WAS plenty of gold in the basement of the NY Fed on Maiden Lane in the mid 80's, stacked nicely in the cages labeled for individual governments. Many still had the Eagle and Swastika of the Reichsbank stamped on them - from when Hitler grabbed much of Europe's gold. Bars are stamped with both smelter info and the 'owner's mark'. I doubt they would have gone to the trouble of faking all those markings at that point. Sure looked legit to me. I worked for the NY Fed back then - and was IN the vault on E level regularly. Gold was not a particularly big thing back then - a lot was stored in the vault and moved around now and then when nations needed to balance out payments. CASH was what mattered and what was the focus of operations - and we sent out pallet loads of $US on a regular basis for overseas shipments on top of the regular shipments serving the greater NY area. Check processing was becoming more and more a matter of private processing with expectations of the Fed getting out of that business long term. Cash volumes were huge and outgrowing NY - they built a new operations center in NJ and moved Currency processing there. I expect they would have moved gold there too after 9/11 but can't say for sure - was long gone by then.
Who knows what's transpired since.....
The fact that Germany couldn't get their gold back right away - in one delivery effort - smells to high heaven. If it was physically still there - and unencumbered - the Fed should have been able to load it up and ship it out inside of a few days. Not all that difficult logistically - armored cars and airplanes. So.... why seven years and STILL a shortfall in the first year?
Could also be that the US is playing the same game they played during WwII - back then they told everyone to 'trust us - we'll protect your gold and keep it safe'. Sort of made sense in WWII and post war with the Soviet threat. Made it easy to siumply transfer gold from cage to cage to settle accounts when payments were made in gold.
BUT ULTIMATELY, it also meant that much of the free world's gold was IN POSSESSION of the US - on US territory, in US facilities. Remember when you were a little kid - 'possession is 9/10's of the law': I'm holding it so IT'S MINE
Could it be that the US KNOWS there's going to be a 'reset' and wants to keep as much physical gold around, under US control, as possible? BUT if THAT were the case, all of what's transpired with the SUPPRESSION of gold prices - the London Pool and all else - makes NO SENSE because we've facilitated the OUTFLOW of gold from the West to China.
Personally, I suspect that NOBODY knows what the hell they're doing and are trying desperately to keep the charade of the $US going - with smoke and mirrors. It's about appearances - not reality. Management of Perspective. All is well. a recovery is underway... blah, blah, blah.....
Maybe they expect they can pull off some kind of electronic currency at the end of a gun and make gold and all hard assets obsolete. But if the rest of the world thinks your currency is worthless.... it is. I suspect we cut a deal with the Saudis a while back - they require $US for payments for oil and we defend them from outside agression (AND pay them under the table in gold for a part of OUR purchases). Then the Saudis get conned into depositing their gold in London and are told they can make money 'leasing' it out.... perpetuating the ultimate Ponzi scheme. So.. maybe US gold DID leave Ft. Knox - paid for oil - went to London - got 'leased out' to bullion banks as part fo the price suppression scheme - was bought by China who has it stashed in THEIR vaults now. But the problem is the US grew its debt at an exponential rate to the point where it is unpayable - and close to the point where it cannot be increased further. If the US can't keep increasing its debt, the game ends. Forget about paying it off - that's impossible.
Americans, we might have been fooled by the tungsten - well ok, ok - we are so fooled that we still have no clue alright! The rest of that gold is gone baby gone. Heck, they may have even "undone" the coating on the tungsten and sold that off for their hookers and crack too. Those bars are brass plated now --- who's gonna know!? We sure don't - and neither does anyone else apparantly. Well, the Germans found out, but they are keeping it on the low down in the hopes that they can get something back.
They never let anyone look - heck, that place is probably empty.
+1
Could it be that the US KNOWS there's going to be a 'reset' and wants to keep as much physical gold around, under US control, as possible?
perhaps keeping the gold is an atttempt to prolong the reset for as long as possible, until some other world-shattering event (like war for instance) gets in the way.
makes NO SENSE because we've facilitated the OUTFLOW of gold from the West to China.
perhaps they have a good idea (or think they do) how much gold is in strong hands and were willing to concede a certain amount of flow East to keep the Chinese happy. the price (and more importantly, the volatility) is an attempt to manage the flow while managing expectations.
not saying this has been an entirely successful operation, but it could have been/be the strategy. Germany called their bluff, and the expectations management got a little bit more sticky.
If the US can't keep increasing its debt, the game ends. Forget about paying it off - that's impossible.
if you look at all of FedGuv's actions (including the scripted dramas) through this lens, everything becoomes clear.
+1, you are onto the orchestrated game plan.
keep saying the same statment since rates on mortages were north of 10.
going to japan rates as it is the only way it keeps going mathematically.
everything else is side shows of this reality, mainly just unintended consequences(hsg bubble).
the bond debt is truely the story. is it even a bubble?
<--------SDR will die before it's born and Libertarians will once again lead the battle
<--------SDR will start up like O'care death panels and assholes will blame Libertarians for the next thing
<-- SDR will be the new global currency
<-- BTC (or some other bankster contrived and controlled cryptocurrency) will be the new global currency
--> I am Chumbawamba
and why not both. who says they are mutually exclusive you dubmass.
That was where I was going next, but since you ruined it, fuck you in the goat ass you fag.
I am Chumbawamba.
you first. i've seen you on here for years already. your comments are consistently SHIT.
BITCOIN & IMF-SDR MARRIAGE
Good question, my laptop battery died earlier today, now I want to get back to this.
The IMF-SDR aka "special drawing rights" will be a currency issued by the IMF and drawn by country's and corporations (goldman-sachs
Bitcoin 2.0 will be used by the little people, my guess is that some time post 2016 when HILLARY has shown who is BOSS, that they will exchange your USD for BITCOIN 2.0, nope BTC2.0 will be nothing like you have now, but I think they'll stick with the name.
It's already here now Africa uses micro-payment, and asia people buy/sell everything with phone credit can be bought at phone shops on every corner, don't forget that unlike USA, in ASIA a SIM costs $1 or less and most guys with one SIM for every GF.
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Let me just make clear, IMF-SDR is for BIG PEOPLE and BTC 2.0 is for little people, watch blade-runner the MOVIE if you don't understand little people and big people.
someone posted this link a couple days back:
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1r7iks/bitcoin_was_created_b...
check out the 1st comment by highguy420 (love the name). some excerpts (though it's worthwhile to read everything he wrote, it's way too long to post here):
The people will demand it.
The huge banks and governments will become the 51% mining pool (or 100% by decree), and will enforce all sorts of things to allow people to get redress through their government.
Imagine if you had a law saying your books always at every single moment had to be up to date and balanced or you don't get to use money. That you could never accept something you haven't paid for. That is the future of "one world currency" bitcoin... unless extra-protocol means of enforcing liabilities and debts are added... as demanded by its users and/or the users of various government entities.
Wrappers will be build around bitcoin and bitcoin will become the way that banks and money changers transmit value to each other. You and I will use our Visas and PayPals and no end user of "money" will need to understand what SHA-256 is.
maybe not Visas or Paypals, but SIM's for sure.
I'm waiting for Ted Cruz to endorse Bitcoin. That would be a lol tell.
EDIT:
Just one degree away
http://www.coindesk.com/peter-thiel-claims-bitcoin-potential-change-world/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/11/heres-who-pay...
His wife is vampire squid, kid.
So is bit coin.
Fonestar=Kevin?
Thanks Dad for the update!!!...plus CFR and don't forget, Ted graduated from this school!:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz
Cruz graduated cum laude from Princeton University with a Bachelor of Arts from the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs in 1992 [emphasis mine].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson_School_of_Public_and_Interna...
http://www.constitution.org/col/cuddy_nwo.htm :
1975 -- A study titled, A New World Order, is published by the Center of International Studies, Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Studies, Princeton University.
1975 -- In Congress, 32 Senators and 92 Representatives sign A Declaration of Interdependence, written by historian Henry Steele Commager. The Declaration states that:
"we must join with others to bring forth a new world order... Narrow notions of national sovereignty must not be permitted to curtail that obligation.
http://www.rhodeshouse.ox.ac.uk/news/oxford-remembers-senator-j-william-...
Plus real AMAZING analysis of the Anglo-American New World Homeland Agenda here:
https://www.TragedyandHope.com/tragedy-and-hope-professor-carroll-quigle...
https://www.TragedyandHope.com/history-the-last-will-of-cecil-rhodes/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AR5p5yyNb8#t=2036 @ 1:09 forward for the case on point....namely @ 1:11 - 1:12 !!
RE: Lionel George Curtis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_George_Curtis
But watch the whole awesome clip if you want to fully classify all the cephalopods!!!
Cruz is a harvard educated phony -chosen and groomed by the elites to fool the Tea Partiers. If you don't know this, you haven't really taken the time to figure out Cruz.
Anybody that trusts a politician all the way down to those that have to run for dog catcher, here yellen, good dog, deserve what they get.
I think you might be right... But does Ted know?
You shouldn't diss rePUGlican's here, Ron Paul, and Cruz are like God's.
I agree anybody that has ever worked for the gubmint FED->local, should be buried in an outhouse up his neck, and his head covered with fire-ants and honey.
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The only good politicians is a dead politician, to quote the Political joke about Vietnamese, inside of every politician is an asshole trying to get out.
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Nobody get's NEAR MSM power, without PTB approval, nobody WIN's PUBLIC office in the USA for any post without PTB approval. Nobody is on TV without PTB approval.
Nobody lasts more than 2-4 weeks on ZH without PTB approval.
Looks like you may have less than 10 days and counting....lol
Don't leave out Silver either. Or you might be filling up a tank of gas and handing over Gold.
This is not going to end anytime soon. The fed will crap on us until we get green sprouts.
Yeah, but WHEN? I submit it ends only when money-printing stops working and only accelerates the decline. Japan goes first.
HILLARY 2016 will be the timing.
Now they'll wear you out with 'obama fatigue'
But the MSM must sell the "WOMAN", and soon you will be told FINANCE has gone to hell cuz of MEN.
Then a solution will be offered, my guess is that Goldman-Sachs will put CHELSEA-CLINTON up as the 'HOPE & CHANGE", the future face of prosperous permanent currency.
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Now is not the time, but NOBODY on earth, wants the USD, including the PTB in the US-GOVERNMENT.
A student of this shit should know that everything in the USA was stolen back in the 1980's and replaced with paper-iou's.
The reset is coming, ...
TIMING iS EVERYTHING.
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Right now its 'triangulation', fill the libertarians with shit (Bitcoin), tell WOMEN that they are the FUTURE, and let the bankers and RICH, offshore their loot, and then BANG, ... RESET.
what do you do (job and/or drugs) that you have time in your day to sit around and dream up all this crazy shit?
I have a very large Harem,... but that's my night job, during the day I just enjoy life and rest and await my nightly duty's.
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It's funny but when your in the SHIT, you can't smell or see the shit, but when your far away looking from the outside you can see ALL, the USA today is a nation of dead, and buzzards are circling for the final kill, and you can't see from the inside of the prison.
satoshi made millions shaving pigs for the celebratory river float, it's all the rage in Bing Bong Pow Province
Its like, if it is said often enough everyone will acknowledge it's truth and behave accordingly, but I think they know the truth and are behaving accordingly. Corruption, get it while it lasts!
"who knows what value is" - well said Mr. Grant
Siddhartha Gautama
Indeed
Amen... Omen... Om.
It can be a bit difficult to measure value when the length of the yardstick keeps changing.
Especially if the yardstick shrinks after being in the pool.
so thats why we never went metric
"who knows what value is"
But he said this in the context of "when interest rates are controlled to stay at zero." Remove the price control and value will reveal itself.
The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance.
Zen, and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance? Read it long time ago. Whats the correlation here?
He's "The Gooch", nuff said.
"One of these days, I'm going to move to the grundle"
Correlation = determining Quality.
Value.
I see. Thanks.
Darnt; wish I didn't click those links butt then again knowledge of all things is of all things...
One Of These Days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT44cUPZQ2o
I dig it. ...but you are not going to cut me into litte pieces.
Absolutely it will end. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, sometime between tomorrow and Feb 13, 2045 there will be a collapse of the Fed and the fiat currencies of the world.
I'm getting sick of folks predicting the end. Don't tell me it will happen, show me. If you ain't ready to give me a date certain, shutthefuckup. If you do give me a date certain and it doesn't happen shutthefuckup.
sunny
Would you settle for knowing where it will happen first?
Maybe. A simple Europe/Asia/South America/New York ain't gonna cut it in any case.
sunny
How come people feel the need to print their alias atbthentop and the bottom of their posts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2COKt6DqSaQ
Then you will find this answer unsatisfying: It's in the most obvious place possible. Japan. They're already in deep weeds and China is leaning on them until they fall over.
That is as good a guess as anyone could come up with. Folks have been predicting the imminent collapse of japan for at least 12 years because of their debt issues. Now with China leaning on them, they just might fold. Perhaps. Perhaps not.
sunny
Japan is cohesive and homogenous,
When it goes its going to go in INDIA, USA, ... where people all hate each other.
All the JAP's need is RESET and a hard-core nationalist leader. then BINGO
The USA, and INDIA, are both UK creations, and ergo will both return to the ashes.
ZH is showing you - every fuckin' single day. You must be really stupid not to have figured that out yet.
Yeah, but they've been showing me for the last 3+ years. Did you notice that each year set a new market ATH. Each year the 1% get richer and they rest of us slide harder and farther down. THAT is the problem. I don't doubt for a minute that the system is a total mess, run by ignorant, self servicing hypocrites. The simple fact of the matter it hasn't crashed as so very many have predicted for so many years. Are they assholes, yes, can the they keep the system running to their advantage seemingly forever irrespective of capable, honest people telling them it can't continue, yes. I'll believe otherwise then the assholes go down in flames. Until then statements like, "It's gonna crash big time, I just don't know when." tell us all absolutely nothing. It's always "next quarter" or "by the end of the 3rd quarter". It's getting old.
sunny
The system has crashed, the rest is - literally - illusion. Empty economies, empty banks, empty vaults, empty pensions, etc.
And sunny, be careful what you wish for. When the crash is unveiled for all to see, it's going to get very, very ugly very, very quickly. I also wouldn't count on "the assholes go[ing] down in flames." Bad people know how to survive.
Well, that would ruin the surprise.
It's Going Down, I'm Yelling Timber!