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The IMF's Emerging Confusion On Emerging Markets

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The IMF's woeful forecasting record, chronicled extensively before, has just taken yet another hit, following the latest flip flop on emerging markets. Try to spot the common theme of these assessments by the IMF.

IMF Chief economist Olivier Blanchard, April 11, 2011 (source):

"In emerging market economies, by contrast, the crisis left no lasting wounds. Their initial fiscal and financial positions were typically stronger, and the adverse effects of the crisis were more muted. High underlying growth and low interest rates are making fiscal adjustment much easier. Exports have recovered, and whatever shortfall in external demand they experienced has typically been made up through increases in domestic demand. Capital outflows have turned into capital inflows, due to both better growth prospects and higher interest rates than in the advanced economies. The challenge for most emerging market economies is thus quite different from that of the advanced economies—namely, how to avoid overheating in the face of closing output gaps and higher capital flows."

IMF Chief economist Olivier Blanchard, July 9, 2013 (source):

"If you look country by country it seems to be specific . . . so in China it looks like unproductive investment, in Brazil it looks like low investment and in India it looks like policy and administrative uncertainty. But you wonder whether there is not something behind. I think behind this is a slowdown in underlying growth – not the cyclical component but just the average rate. It’s clear that these countries are not going to grow as fast as they did before the crisis.”

IMF Chief economist Olivier Blanchard, January 23, 2014 (source)

"Finally, we forecast that both emerging market and developing economies will sustain strong growth"

A few days later, EMs around the globe crashed, and central banks virtually everywhere had to step in to bail out their crashing currencies, and hit the tape with even more impressive verbal intervention every several hours.

Finally, today we get IMF economist Alejandro Werner, January 30, 2014 (source)

"Conditions in global financial markets will stay tighter than they were before the U.S. central bank’s “taper talk” in the first half of 2013, translating into higher international borrowing costs, particularly with the recent volatility in emerging markets.... sustained turbulence in emerging markets could tighten global financial conditions further.... Rebuilding fiscal buffers, and using monetary policy and flexible exchange rates to absorb shocks where possible, remains the order of the day."

In other words, going from a forecast of "high underlying growth", to "not going to grow as fast as they did", to "sustain strong growth", to violent EM crash, to "turbulence", "volatility", and urging EMs to "using monetary policy to absorb shocks", what is clear is that nobody knows what is going on, nobody has any handle on the future of Emerging Markets, but let's all just pretend that the MIT central-planners in control, are in control, and all shall be well.

 


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Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:22 | Link to Comment knukles
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Lawyer training, paid by the word.  With all the integrity of a politician.

 

Next, the IMF'll be hiring Hookers with Squeegees as they've not been allowed to ply their bodies or intellect (unwantedly squeegeeing auto windows of helpless innocents) on NYC streets for decades under the oppressive dictatorial crime stopping rule of past administrations, so in order to make penance (White Man's Guilt shit, again) they'll all be given senior analytical positions* at the IMF. 
Needle tracks, greasy squeegees and all

 

*Guaranteed Not to Improve Forecasting Prowess, by does indeed meet Progressive Diversity Standards.

Dumb fucks

 

We have decidedly arrived to the 7th Circle of Hell, a complete mayhem of murder and debauchery abounding

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Say What Again
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Is the IMF related to MF Global?  Sometimes I feel like I need a program that describes the cast of characters.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:25 | Link to Comment savedeposit
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IMF Global

A sort of MF Global product from Apple 

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:35 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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I think they are all MF'rs.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:07 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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Common thread?  STUPIDITY

 

 

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:15 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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Combined with just enough evil so they don't even give a shit.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:39 | Link to Comment insanelysane
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At least the employees of MF Global were supposed to pay taxes.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:37 | Link to Comment halfawake
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check the wb7 chart, i think he updated it this year

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:48 | Link to Comment halfawake
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World of Conspiracy 3.0 (https://secure.flickr.com/photos/16315439@N05/9597866606/in/photolist-fC...)

 

IMF->Chairsatan->Keynes->MF

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:25 | Link to Comment nasdaq99
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these are lobbying words to the Fed, ECB, BOE, BOJ, etc.

 

they're just a professional lobby institution for more dough to led, more influence to peddle.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:35 | Link to Comment piliage
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Man oh man I tell ya, it's getting harder and harder to differentiate between the incompetent French enarc fucks and the incompetant international student exchange Ivy League fucks at the IMF.

Perhaps they are all just useless fucks?

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:04 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Lawyer training is the ONLY academic discipline where DEBATING skills are Bread & Butter.

People and their kids need to learn the skills of Debating & Public Speaking at a MUCH younger age (Middle-School and High School), to prevent getting used as dumb-ass sheep. 

Although Christian churches often encourage & promote Public Speaking skills, their particular dogma/worldview limits the Scope & Paradigms of thinking -- which then limits the Debating skills of their people, when faced with more 'creative' or 'predatory' worldviews.

Problem is, TPTB do not want their sheeple to be TOO smart, lest they lose control.  So they restrict it to Law Schools, where they can 'manage' things via the legal bottleneck.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:14 | Link to Comment TheRideNeverEnds
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Whats the problem?  Just print more growth and you'll be 'aight.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:16 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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our hart goes out to them....

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:17 | Link to Comment 101 years and c...
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what u say? crashing currencies and soaring rates is not good for growth.  its ben's wettest dream come true....

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:16 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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That which cannot be sustained won't be, period.  The circus can go on for a long time, as to the bread, not so much.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:16 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Agreed.  But the real pain comes when those "parasites with means" ensure that their lifestyle is maintained, even in "bad times".  And then their spawn breed, to keep their species going.

That can only be countered with the same culling as Mother Nature has, via the increase of real natural predators -- not the defanged and declawed shadows of former predators we seem to have. 

Put another way... "Roll the Gui...!" 

Or, in my genre/metaphor: "Get those Klingon bass-turds!"

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:28 | Link to Comment Panem et Circus
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I would like to think you're right, but it lasted a long time in Rome. I guess the difference there was theyhad a legal distinction between citizen and slave, not just a financial one. Hey, maybe we should look into that!

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:47 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Exponential equations are a bitch.  How many people were in Rome?  Probably not half as many that are current in one American city.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:23 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Although it’s clear that these countries are not going to grow as fast as they did before the crisis...we forecast that both emerging market and developing economies will sustain strong growth.

What is strong growth?  It is like a decent return.

MyRA guarantees a decent return with no risk* of losing what you put in.

 

 

* Except inflationary risk, but what are the chances of the USA inflating away it's debt because it is denominated in its own currency that is backed by nothing?

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:23 | Link to Comment knukles
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Easy there...
A little early for the cynicism and angst...

Let's get Krugman's view on the topic before we run amok trashing The Man with the Scars on His head's Ideas.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:27 | Link to Comment maskone909
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its so obvious!  Ponzi 101 if you will.

The old ponzi schemes(refered to in the article as "advanced economies") have run out of participants.  For any ponzi to thrive you must have greater numbers of players to enter the game.  Welp, thats not happening.  so whats a banker to do?  well what other than create new ponzi schemes!  we will call these new schemes, "BRICS".  we will suck people into it in hopes of growth and profit!  unfortunately the old ponzi called USA et al is hurting the ability of the new ponzi's to thrive.  the bottom line is that it is game over.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:50 | Link to Comment Rip van Wrinkle
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"the bottom line is that it is game over."

 

Oh, how I wish.

 

 

 

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:35 | Link to Comment Panem et Circus
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What we should do is allow the government to take over all industry, agriculture, businesses, etc. Then everyone gets a payment every month, you know something like a "livable wage." It would be the same exact amount for everyone of course, except for Party members. The government would guarantee us all a job, food, housing, etc. They can outlaw lending, because that obviously hurts the poor and only benefits the rich. They can outlaw saving too, because you don't need to save if the government is giving you exactly what you need every month. What could go wrong?

/sarc

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 16:22 | Link to Comment Hayabusa
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Ok maskone909, I gave u an up arrow... it is a ponzi... but in addition it's a confidence game. 

In order to keep things afloat they need to inspire confidence of us underlings via a constant barrage of media propaganda from self-annointed experts who say they have a macroeconomic crystal ball, but obviously their hocus pocus and high powered education/expert credentials cannot "override" concrete reality and control every aspect of the world economy - it just goes boom unexpectedly sometimes.  They are clueless... following their "leadership advice" is akin to following the other lemmings off the cliff. 

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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Their concept of growth is todays new normal. Simply surviving one more day, even from a terminal disease is "growth" now. Upward, Onward, and of course Forward...towards the abyss. Words mean shit.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Per my comment yesterday...  01/29/2014 - 14:41 | 4381028

The BRICs + EMs (Emerging Markets) need to dump the Dollar... NOW!

Or they'll get what's coming to them:  A real whoopin'.

So you can't say I didn't warn you or provide SMART* solutions, you must...

Back your national currencies with

   (a) PMs (mix of Platinum, Gold, Palladium and Silver), and

   (b) Exportable Energies (Carbon-fuels or Electricity).

If you have a healthy mix of these, short of starting WW3, there is NO way the Fed-led CBs can mess with you.  In fact, if you did these things, THEY would be the ones with bank runs, starting the same day. 

The BRICs can lead the way, and the EMs would follow in short order (starting with S. Africa, Argentina, Chile, Turkey).

I think you got the brains.  But do you have the balls?

* Specific, Measurable, Actionable, Relevant, Timely

Kirk out.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:25 | Link to Comment WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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No, but Gold Man Sack has Dong.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:52 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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And balls.  A yen for Mochi balls.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:34 | Link to Comment maskone909
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kirk i agree but...

folks are scared to do anything.  libya, iraq, and even venezuela ect served as a clear indicator of what happens when you go behinde the dollar.  sanctions, coup's, and assasinations are the alternative

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:42 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Good luck pulling that crap on one of the BRICS!

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:37 | Link to Comment Kaiser Sousa
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Thu, 01/30/2014 - 18:15 | Link to Comment Rafferty
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I think you're 100% right but in my case I got a severn figure pension fund (IRA equivalent).  If I cash it in I pay tax at the full rate.  Will come out with less than €400k.  Just not feasible in my case, godammit but I don't know what else to do......

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:19 | Link to Comment maskone909
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Tyler sums it up perfectly

what is clear is that nobody knows what is going on, nobody has any handle on the future of Emerging Markets, but let's all just pretend that the MIT central-planners in control, are in control, and all shall be well.

good job getting the timeline of shifting opinion and perceptions.  you guys must read alot of mind-numbing stuff to be able to provide us with this incredibly contradictorial IMF propaganda.  thanks for taking one for the team!

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:46 | Link to Comment SDShack
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A sociopath never changes. They never learn from their mistakes because it's not built into their DNA. The bankers are the poster child for Einstein's definition of insanity. To them they only have a hammer, so every problem looks like a nail. This shit has been ongoing for decades, and will continue for decades more until the masses are literally starving in the streets. Only then will real change happen.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:46 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Hmm... I'd argue that it's not so much "nobody knows what is going on", but that they are shouted down by the MIT-class central-planners and their media friends.  It becomes a signal-to-noise issue.

"Manage the SNR (signal/noise ratio), and manage the message."

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 17:10 | Link to Comment falak pema
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the EM turmoil is more linked to China's shadow banking turmoil rather than to FED tapering as pointed out erlier based on this :

George Mangus Warns of Broad Impact of Emerging Markets Turbulence | naked capitalism

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:22 | Link to Comment B2u
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Actually the "high underlying growth" is "not going to grow as fast as they did" but will maintain and "sustain strong growth"....until it doesn't...

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:26 | Link to Comment Iam Yue2
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Crystal balls.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:29 | Link to Comment foxenburg
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I thik we can safely say that Oliver is an incompetent twat.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:37 | Link to Comment piliage
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Kinda hard to differentiate when the baseline is useless twats.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:44 | Link to Comment OC Sure
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There is no confusion here as long as when questions only their powers of prognostication instead of their power to be.

Does anyone know anyone who knows someone that would voluntary donate to this:

http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/finfac.htm

The IMF is another link in a long chain connected to the shackle around your neck.

Don Corleone never had a racket so sweet.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:50 | Link to Comment the not so migh...
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Corleone would never involve women and children

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Sizzurp
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Blanchard actually gets paid to spew out that dribble.  Nothing but completely worthless nonsense.  The central banks and the IMF should be disbanded. If the Universities had any real honesty and integrity they would fire their entire economics faculty for teaching corrupt psuedoscience.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:08 | Link to Comment ghostzapper
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if you like your IMF forecasting, you can keep your IMF forecasting.  

 

In the meantime, sign your ass up for this MyRA and while you're at it call Goldman and see if they'll write you a CDS on your own MyRA so you can cash in when the bonds it holds default.  

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 15:56 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
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it defies all statistical probabilities that imf would err so consistently in their forecast - unless it's by design and willfully purposeful

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 16:52 | Link to Comment falak pema
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Enuf already said on this issue on the Don Corleone thread...The IMF has only ONE brief since donkey's years : protect the greenback of Pax Americana.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 17:25 | Link to Comment Herdee
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You can see and hear the BS in the media about how emerging markets are high risk and your safe haven is always U.S. Treasuries.No doubt at all,the Fed will gradually collapse a lot of countries in order to suck money back into the buck.

Thu, 01/30/2014 - 20:56 | Link to Comment MagicMoney
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 I really don't take IMF predictions seriously most of the time.

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