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Guest Post: What Is Happening In The Ukraine?

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Submitted by Pater Tenebrarum of Acting-Man blog,

Beware of Revolutionaries – Better Yet, Beware of Everyone

The current unrest in the Ukraine is very reminiscent of the failed 'Orange Revolution' that pushed current pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovich (then prime minister under president Leonid Kuchma) from power when the opposition candidate approved by the West, Viktor Yushchenko, won the 2004 election. Prior to the 2004 election, Yushchenko's handlers launched a propaganda story about how their man was allegedly poisoned with dioxin. It later came to light that the story was very likely made up, but it sure helped his election victory along. 

'Our' man was finally in power – and soon turned out to be an even worse leader than his predecessor. The economy tanked and his political supporters split into different factions. Yushchenko's prime minister Julia Tymoschenko, another darling of the West, apparently got involved in shady deals – at least that is what the Ukrainian court that sent her to jail in 2011 claims (it involved a gas deal with Russia – politicians robbing the country blind once they are in power is a well-worn tradition in the Ukraine and if memory serves, her protestations of innocence were not very convincing). In fact, both the Kuchma and Yushchenko governments have been referred to as 'kleptocracies' in US diplomatic cables published by Wikileaks.

Yushchenko, the former hero of the revolution, received only 5% of the vote in the 2010 election, which makes it all the more likely that his power-grab was largely orchestrated (although it is undoubtedly true that people were fed up with Kuchma and there was probably some hope that things might change for the better at the time of Yushchenko's election). The main opponent of Yanukovich in the 2010 election was in fact Ms. Tymoschenko, and he in turn probably mainly won because many people regarded him as the lesser evil at that point.

The current 'revolution' started after Yanukovich refused to sign a deal with the EU (which involved more than just trade – he would have had to make various unrelated concessions) and took what appeared to be a far better deal offered by Putin ($15 billion better at a minimum). We certainly cannot blame him for not wanting to have anything to do with the socialistic Moloch in Brussels. It is by the way pretty astonishing that EU politicians feel called upon to make imperious demands of Yanukovich because he is confronted with street protests. If EU governments were to immediately resign upon facing massive street protests, neither Rajoy nor Samaras would be in power today.



yush and tymo
Former president Viktor Yushchenko and former prime minister Julia Tymoschenko: Orange Revolution disappointment

(Photo via / Author unknown)



Corrupt to the Core?

However, it is a very good bet that Yanukovitch is also upholding the above mentioned political tradition of robbing his country blind. We can't prove it of course, but plenty of rumors to this effect certainly exist. If so, then he cannot afford to loosen his grip on power, otherwise he will run the risk of suffering the same fate as Tymoschenko down the road. Still, he could presumably lose the next election when Vitaly Klitschko – the ex-boxer who has become the new revolutionary leader – stands against him and wins. Provided of course that there is no election fraud – allegations of election fraud tend to surface in every election as it were.  

As an aside, as a teenager, Yanukovich was once sentenced for participating in a robbery and three years later he was again sentenced for assault ('mistakes of youth' according to him). He also holds academic titles that he seems to have obtained under what appear to be rather dubious circumstances; his publications are listed by the national library, but cannot be found. His military rank of major is belied by the non-existence of any military service on his part (all this is independent of the fact that he could have easily joined the cast of 'Goodfellas' on his looks alone).



Viktor Yanukovich, who looks like he would make a good bouncer

(Photo credit: Reuters)



Not surprisingly,  the Ukraine is listed as one of the most corrupt countries in the world, tied with Bangladesh, Cameroon, the Central African Republic and Syria. On the surface, the conflict in the Ukraine is between the Russian-speaking half of the country (where Yanukovich's main support base is) and the more pro-Western Ukrainian-speaking half.

It appears to an outside observer rather as though various criminal gangs are vying for control of the State so that they can steal without fear of retribution.

A friend pointed the following example of a wealth-grab by Ukrainian politicians out to us. Apparently two businessmen and members of parliament have shaken down BNP Paribas for $100 million, with the connivance of the Ukrainian courts. Here is an open letter written by the board of the Ukrainian subsidiary of BNP Paribas to the president:

“Dear Mr. President,


BNP Paribas international financial group represented by UkrSibbank PJSC expresses its deep respect and is forced to appeal to you for protecting its rights as a reliable strategic investor of banking system that promotes the development of Ukrainian economy with credit resources. The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the largest financial investor in Ukraine, owns a 15% stake in UkrSibbank PJSC.


Taken the importance you traditionally pay to the investment climate in the country, we hope that you will not leave without attention an egregious situation that has been developed in business relations between UkrSibbank PJSC as a lender and the actual owners of AIS corporation Dmitriy Svyatash and Vasiliy Polyakov as unscrupulous borrowers who have been evading repayment of debt totaling USD 100 mln for nearly 5 years.


Such loans were granted by our bank in 2007-2009 under personal guarantees of Messrs Svyatash and Polyakov being the actual owners of AIS corporation, managing its current activities and now serving as the People’s Deputies of Ukraine. However, instead of complying with the terms and conditions of loan agreements, during all this time the borrowers have been committing acts qualified by the lawyers as persistent refusal to meet their obligations. They have commenced bankruptcy proceedings of companies-borrowers and many assets pledged to our Bank have been illegally transferred through offshore structures to new companies. Messrs Svyatash and Polyakov are currently continuing their business under `AIS` corporate brand based on newly incorporated companies that formally bear no indebtedness to UkrSibbank PJSC and report an annual turnover amounting to USD 800 million. Messrs Dmitriy Svyatash and Vasiliy Polyakov continue making attempts to evade repaying their debts therefore discrediting the government system of Ukraine they actually represent in the parliament.


Numerous shifting of dates of court and other proceedings without warning the bank’s lawyers, groundless rejection of their petitions, other procedural irregularities, and finally the cynical appointment of a court hearing on the national weekend and a holy holiday for all Orthodox Christians, the Christmas eve, on the 6th of January – this is an incomplete list of facts evidencing that court decisions are biased and passed in favor of unscrupulous borrowers.


The utmost injustice with regard to UkrSibbank PJSC was the decision of the Court of Appeal of Kyiv adopted at the hearing on January the 6th when the judge Anna Kryzhanovskaya has de facto sanctioned the fraudulent schemes and allowed Messrs Svyatash and Polyakov not to repay USD 100 mln to the Bank. Unfortunately, according to the trend of making judicial verdicts, we fear that our appeal against this decision will not be treated on a fair basis.


That is why, Mr. President, we are writing to you as the guarantor of observance of legality in the country to intervene in the situation and help restore the justice.


We hope for your support and assistance in practical confirmation of commitment of the Ukrainian State to the rule of law. We believe that the willingness of the President of Ukraine, the Government, and the higher judicial institutions to advocate for the rights of banking institutions will have a positive impact on the international image of Ukraine and its system of state power. In addition, this will serve to strengthen the confidence in the judicial and law enforcement system of the country, which demonstrate its impartiality, the ability to make fair decisions regardless of political affiliation of the parties.


 Jean-Paul Sabet

Chairman of UkrSibbank Supervisory Board”

It remains to be seen whether Yanukovich will intervene on behalf of BNP, but this is quite a story. Shaking down a big powerful Western bank for $100m. in broad daylight takes some chutzpa, and the way in which it was done certainly seems to confirm the validity of the Ukraine's corruption ranking.

Naturally, it seems quite likely that there is genuine frustration in the population over the state of political affairs in the country. In other words, the protests likely are rooted in genuine grievances, even though Western powers may have had a hand in their timing. Here is a BBC update on the latest developments. One reader sagely commented:

It seems astonishing that protesters are risking their lives to join the EU whilst southern Europeans are bankrupt, unemployed and taxed to the hilt at the hands of Brussels.”

It is not merely 'astonishing', it really strains credulity. In other words, we don't believe for a second that people have been standing in the cold for weeks and engaging in battles with the police because they love Brussels and Herman 'damp rag' Rompuy so much, in spite of his undeniable haiku-writing talent. It seems far more likely that they are simply hoping that finally a perhaps somewhat less corrupt political group will take over. That seems quite a tall order considering the disappointments of the Yushchenko/Tymoschenko era.


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Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:20 | 4388426 samsara
Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:26 | 4388450 stant
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Nice one sam

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:00 | 4388477 Cult_of_Reason
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Re: It seems far more likely that they are simply hoping that finally a perhaps somewhat less corrupt political group will take over.

You hit the nail on the head, it is all about corruption as many Ukrainians see EU as less corrupt than Russia. Turning to the EU is their only hope to reduce corruption in that country, and many Ukrainians are willing to die for this goal.

BTW, if memory serves me right, under Kuchma, Motorola was shaken down for ~$240 million, forced out of the country and all Motorola investment in infrastructure was transferred to mobile phone operator KyivStar (Kuchma's daughter-in-law company).

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:01 | 4388573 123dobryden
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we have seen many videos cops beating protestors, only this time its really different :)..lets hope its a new beginning, and it realy is, loads of people now see that armed resistance against corruption is possible



This is Ukraine!!!

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:05 | 4388587 Cult_of_Reason
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Leonid Kuchma’s Mobile Connections Arrested in Germany

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:39 | 4388691 Joe Davola
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Are there Ukrainian women's prison films?

A friend of mine wants to know.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:34 | 4388668 Cult_of_Reason
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The protesters in this video yelled, "Revolution."

The police has to change sides, come over to serve and protect the people, and stop protecting the corrupt Yanukovich regime.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 23:58 | 4390531 NZ Watcher
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Good spotting - sick of the one-sided coverage about this

So many cops have been badly burnt from M-Cocktails also.

Why do "most" people not realise that this is another "repeat" of yet another imperilist doing !!

Hown many times has this same thing been repearted this last 5 years alone - in other reions etc


Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:13 | 4388621 ThirdWorldDude
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Due to circumstances (like showing solidarity and maintaining their well organized egalitarian tent-city on Kyiv's Independence Square for over a month) Ukrainian people have a very good chance of getting rid of their corrupt overlords. They even have a historically rare chance of setting a precedent by establishing a new political system of their own will and choosing...

Only, there's a problem with 21st century schizoid mankind in that we've lost our capability of self-sustainance. For too long have we as a collective been dependent on central planning and Gubbermint's big tits to be able to once again take control over our own destiny. Sorry to say this, but Ukraine will not be an exception... This current crisis will not go to waste (apart from wasted human lives).


The Empire caught with it's dirty hands inside the cookie jar.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:40 | 4388698 eurogold
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A Proxy issue  between Russia ( backing Govt. ) and USA (backing protesters ) . Hmmm.......... where has this happened before ?

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:50 | 4388514 rwe2late
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Another point of view regarding the protestors contrary to Armstrong's

Ukraine and the Rebirth of Fascism in Europe

[with US government backing]

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:11 | 4388610 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Nobody seems to report the shield of people surrounding the US Embassy and the Yankee Go Home signs, you have t find them on Twitter

Yes folks we are at it again, f*cking around with everybody else's business

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:08 | 4388575 Canadian Dirtlump
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yeah martin, it's a fukkin coincidence this all happened in the face of western NGOs working overtime to fukk with the program, and the Ukraine saying nyet to a bad deal from the EU. Yeah this one is all about freedom..


There is a better chance of catching aids froma toilet seat than there is of this unrest in Ukraine being anything near about "freedom."

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:17 | 4388637 Volkodav
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Armstrong does not know the subject...

it is west power play.


Fri, 01/31/2014 - 15:01 | 4388771 Winston of Oceania
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Fri, 01/31/2014 - 15:45 | 4388982 Vuvuzela
Fri, 01/31/2014 - 16:54 | 4389252 Anusocracy
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Apparently Martin Armstrong doesn't have a clue to what freedom is.

Changing ruling classes or changing allegiances does not give you freedom.

Sat, 02/01/2014 - 06:26 | 4390921 TweedleDeeDooDah
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Armstrong's article is actually spot on.
The Soviet occupation of Ukraine was negotiated such that it would simply be a Russian economic occupation. Only the "negotiations" were done by the former USSR and Russian "organized business", no input from actual Ukrainians was allowed.

It's more about having your own language, culture, and economy, geting a fair price for use of infrastructure (oil transit, naval base, supply lines for criminal Transdnistra enclave/base), and a choice to trade with east AND west, not Putin's "either/or".

The Russians will work hard to prevent Ukrainians from expressing to the world that they are well-deserving of reparations from Russia, the inheritor of Soviet crimes, and enabler of the current economic criminals.

Sat, 02/01/2014 - 06:46 | 4390932 kashey
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First stop the US occupation of Texas and then try saying something on a subject you don't know or understand.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 23:59 | 4390536 NZ Watcher
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All fucking bull shit = all propaganda for the West-ie agenda

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:23 | 4388430 maskone909
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what could possibly go wrong with princess Leia on your team?

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:25 | 4388442 Dr. Engali
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I thought that was queen Amidala. My mistake.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:26 | 4388449 Dr. Engali
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So they know as much about him as we do about Zero.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:30 | 4388460 Oh regional Indian
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This is why the west is pushing a brain addled boxer on them? Klitschko....I'm sur ehis brain was set right by all those years of pro pummling he received...

Is this the next Boxer Revolution?

Utrain and you train and then you rule Ukraine?

Sounds plausible. But is it Applausible?



Fri, 01/31/2014 - 15:36 | 4388941 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Arnold Schwarzenegger was a blessing for California.

I would think Klitschko could do as well in The Ukraine.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:32 | 4388462 kaiserhoff
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Good Lord, man, read a history book.

This is an ethnic blood feud between the original farmer/settlers of previously untilled land, Germans, and the Russians imported by Stalin after he murdered/starved half the population.

The same split occurs in much of eastern Europe, it's just a more evenly divided population.  The country will have to be divided along the lines of the Czech and Slovak Republics.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:40 | 4388488 BandGap
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Initially the Ukraines hailed the Nazis as liberators in the German push for Stalingrad.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:59 | 4388762 Winston of Oceania
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They were also not happy to see them lose, last chance of some sort of freedom from soviet however bad it might have been. In America they now call that feeling hope...

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:32 | 4388463 Theta_Burn
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Representation and policy decisions swaying to the highest bidder... sounds about right

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:38 | 4388468 Belrev
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There is nationalist revolt going on in Ukraine. MSM is silent on it.

Various futbol hooligan gangs and skin head gangs and other nationalist organiztions are basically taking over local municipalities and establishing "folk rule". The so called leaders of ukrainian opposition are all in western jewish pockets on the one hand, while the ruling party is in the hands of Putin and his russian jewish friends.

The people on the streets are fighting both sides to establish a rule in Ukraine, in Putin's own words at recent EU-Russia summit, without "negroes, moscals (Russians) and kikes".

That is what is going on.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:59 | 4388501 reload
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Here in England some elements of the media have a fascination with `football hooligans`. Although our indiginous species stopped fighting and started hugging once alcohol was removed from sale at games and the drugs Ecstacy and MDMA became popular.

A recent TV documentary examined the culture of tribal/gang violence among football supporters in different nations. I understant the episode made in Ukraine was cut short for the safety of the film crew. Properly scary urban violence out there.

If anybody missed this link yesterday (hat tip to original poster) the images are of incredible quality and content.


Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:37 | 4388478 Major Major Major
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There were three guys on the roof of a burning building.  One was a Greek, one was Italian and one was Ukrainian.  The fire brigade pulled up and the German fireman held out a big net and yelled up “jump, jump into the net.”  Wasting no time, the Greek leapt from the building.  The German fireman promptly moved the net and SPLAT.  Both the Italian and the Ukrainian saw this.  However, the heat from the fire along with the calls to jump from the Germans enticed the Italian to jump.  Again the Germans moved the net and SPLAT.  The Ukrainian, who had witnessed the entire event, took action.  He yelled down to the Germans, “I saw what you did two those two, put the net down.”  As soon as they did, he jumped.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:38 | 4388480 Bearwagon
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This is not going to end well. Yanukovich is cornerd. The protester's will not give in if he remains president. So he could only count on force against his own people. Who would back him up? Shirley not the EU, and it remains questionable if Putins Russia would lift a finger. And even if Yanukovich would get support from Putin - what else would he then be than another of Moscows puppets? He knows all too well that there is no way out of this. And if he's going down, he'll take all of the Ukraine with him. 

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:39 | 4388484 mydogisprettier...
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off topic.....


what happened to the chiniese bank that was supposed to destruct today???

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:41 | 4388489 Major Major Major
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new year bro

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:41 | 4388492 b_thunder
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They chose to be poor in the semi-free Europe, rather than to return back to the KGB-run GULAG. Especially as a red-headed stepchild, since their liveliehood would depend on the KGB-run GAZPROM.

On the other hand, seeing how many bailouts Greece has received (Greece, unlike Ukraine, has very little geopolitical importance) joining the EU may not be such a bad thing. Well, it may be bad for the German, Austrian and Dutch taxpayers, but not so bad for the entering EU "poor" countris.


Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:44 | 4388498 Seize Mars
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Just an observation: BNP failed to mention that the money they loaned was made up out of thin air. If it ever had repo-able collateral behind it, they would have attached it already. So who's the crook?
BNP wants the crooks who stole their funny money to promise to shake down Ukrainian taxpayers. That's between the lines.
My God I do love it so.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:46 | 4388499 americanreality
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Note:  It isn't "The" Ukraine. It is now simply Ukraine.  Like France instead of The France.  

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:59 | 4388561 djsmps
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I'd like to vacation in The Brazil.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:51 | 4388731 Joseff Stalin
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Is it now the Netherlands, or just Netherland?

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 15:32 | 4388901 TPTB_r_TBTF
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The name Ukraine means borderlands.  Like The Borderlands, not just Any Borderlands.

Regions are given the article.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:52 | 4388520 mantrid
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"we don't believe for a second that people have been standing in the cold for weeks and engaging in battles with the police because they love Brussels and Herman 'damp rag' Rompuy so much"

heheh, well then you have much to learn about post-communist Europe then

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 15:26 | 4388880 akak
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Wait, when did communism die in Europe?


Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:52 | 4388522 mayhem_korner
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All my system passwords are Ukraine names.  That is all.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:58 | 4388547 QQQBall
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Ukraine needs an Eric Holder to enforce the laws of the land



Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:09 | 4388608 Smiley
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Everyone in the country would have an AK-47 within a week.

Sat, 02/01/2014 - 13:48 | 4391433 TheReplacement
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How would it be bad, if everyone had one?

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 13:59 | 4388552 Xibalba
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Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:01 | 4388563 Charles Wilson
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Where's Femen when you need them?

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:34 | 4388683 El Vaquero
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Bring on the titties!


(Femen stands for something, but I cannot for the life of me remember what it is.  I must be distracted.)

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 17:57 | 4389514 koncaswatch
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I could be wrong, but I think the commentor meant Fremen which is from Frank Herbert's Dune series of novels. Basically Fremen saved the planet (Arakis) from the evil empire.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:00 | 4388565 orez65
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"... in battles with the police because they love Brussels ..."

Who would you choose for a master, the EU or Russia?

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 16:58 | 4389263 PSEUDOLOGOI


that's the problem. "masters" won't leave Ukraine alone.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 17:14 | 4389321 Anusocracy
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That, and the Ukrainian "masters" won't leave the Ukrainian people alone.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:05 | 4388580 gafgroocK
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Just Changed two words, below and think "Boeing" and NLRB or your favorite "Oil producer" and EPA


"Shaking down a big powerful Western bank for $100m. in broad daylight takes some chutzpa, and the way in which it was done certainly seems to confirm the validity of the Ukraine's corruption ranking"


Shaking down a big powerful Western *Corporation* for $100m. in broad daylight takes some chutzpa, and the way in which it was done certainly seems to confirm the validity of the *USA's* corruption ranking

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:10 | 4388609 El Vaquero
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I do feel obligated to point out that you don't give dioxin to somebody to kill them.  You give it to them to disfigure them.  Dioxin poisioning leads to chloracne. Chloracne is basically the worst case of blackheads imaginable. 

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:26 | 4388661 Pseudo Anonym
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Shaking down a big powerful Western bank for $100m. in broad daylight takes some chutzpa,

i guess he learned from the best in the business

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:37 | 4388678 Disenchanted
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Quote from:

Oligarchs, Demagogues and Mass Revolts . . . Against Democracy


When the oligarchs ‘stage-manage’ mass revolts and takeover the regime, the big losers include the democratic electorate and most of the protestors. Leftists and progressives, in the West or in exile, who had mindlessly supported the ‘mass revolts’ will publish their scholarly essays on ‘the revolution (sic) betrayed” without admitting to their own betrayal of democratic principles.


If and when the Ukraine enters into the European Union, the exuberant street demonstrators will join the millions of jobless workers in Greece, Portugal and Spain, as well as millions of pensioners brutalized by “austerity programs” imposed by their new rulers, the ‘Troika’ in Brussels. If these former demonstrators take to the streets once more, in disillusionment at their leaders’ “betrayal”, they can enjoy their ‘victory’ under the batons of “NATO and European Union-trained police” while the Western mass media will have moved elsewhere in support of ‘democracy’.



No matter what it really is that is happening in Ukraine, you can fucking well bet that there's a 13th Tribe effort to keep the pot stirred...from all sides of the equation. That's what they do. Profit$ of Conflict.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:32 | 4388679 LawyerScum
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In fact, both the Kuchma and Yushchenko governments have been referred to as 'kleptocracies' in US diplomatic cables published by Wikileaks.

And the U.S. government isn't? What a fucking joke the world has become.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:47 | 4388708 DaveA
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In English, we use the definite article with geographical regions: "the Midwest", "the Lakes Region", "the Sahara", etc. Sovereign ethno-states carry no article: "England", "France", "Italy", "Russia". Accordingly, in 1992 "the Ukraine" became just "Ukraine".

So your title implies that Ukraine is, or will soon be, a mere geographical expression.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 15:25 | 4388843 TPTB_r_TBTF
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> "Sovereign ethno-states carry no article"


The-Ukraine is not sovereign.


The name means "borderlands" which is definitely a geographical region.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:50 | 4388725 tbd108
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Twelve million Ukrainians were intentionally starved to death by the Russians in the 1930's. They were led by Nikita Khrushchev and directed by Stalin. Millions more Ukrainians suffered terribly at the hands of their Slav "brothers." Ivan the Terrible, czar of Russia ("terrible" meaning fierce not "awful") invaded Kiev in the 16th century, murdering all the residents to make sure what we call Ukraine would not compete with Moscow. However stupid and greedy the EU leaders may be (largely being "former" communists themselves), they cannot compete with the viciousness of the Russians. If it interests you, read "Harvest of Sorrow" by the great historian Robert Conquest. In this book he not only details the horror of what happened in the 30's  but also the "blindness" of the Western commie pricks who saw what was happening and failed to say (let alone do) anything about it. I recommend you have pity for this good people who are stuck between two sets of serious bastards, trying to survive.

Sat, 02/01/2014 - 00:51 | 4390609 NZ Watcher
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12 million - say WHAT ????

Get real and stop listening to the "one" side of things

There were also many who starved in Russia and up to 60% of Kazakhstan starved.

The "exaggerators" the "Holodomor" in Ukraine said 6 million - so god only knows where you plucked your 12 mill from ??

Sat, 02/01/2014 - 07:05 | 4390944 kashey
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what a bullshut, ivan the terrible had never been in kiev let alone taking it or slaughtering a single man there.
Then, Stalin was Georgian, Khrushev - Ukrainian, most of Soviet leaders and Communist party Central Commitee in time of Holodonor - Jewish, but Russians are to blame? Taking in account that Russians were starved to death even in greater numbers.
Stop lieing you bastard.

Sat, 02/01/2014 - 13:55 | 4391450 TheReplacement
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Who held the bayonets and fired the rifles?  Surely there were not enough Jews to take down Ukraine alone.  One is pretty sure that Russians did the dirty work.  Same as Germany.  You can blame Jews all day but is was non-Jews who did pretty much ALL off the murdering. 

If you ever murder someone are you gonna blame Jews for it?

Sat, 02/01/2014 - 15:21 | 4391603 kashey
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If you don't know I can tell you - after communists (headed by Jews) won the civil war and established dictatorship every common person has a choice either to die or folow orders so yes, I blame those who was giving orders. While most of those who were following it were Russians in Russia and Ukrainians in Ukraine. It's just lack of education to think that Ukranians were different from Russians in this respect. Ethnic Ukrainian soldiers were following Jewish orders in Ukraine as Russians were in Russia.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:52 | 4388740 teslaberry
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imperialism is when strong countries use any and all means to influence the economics of a target country. 




threat of x,y,z covert

threat of outright open destruction invation. 


weakest non-imperial countries are rife with internal corruption not only because corruption exists as part of the human condition, but because it is a result of proliferation of imperial influence. 


the strong countries, have their own internal corruption as well. but any purifying influence of the public condemnation of corrupt behavior is at least more valuable viz-a-viz the influence of outside imperial minority interests. 

thus, as a sheeple of the usa, you are not dealing with the ukranian or russian governments influence. --only the internal corruption of your home country for the most part. 

as a sheeply in ukraine , you have influence peddling of many imperial actors running against you. 

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:56 | 4388743 Spastica Rex
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Prettiest PM  (former or current) that I know of.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 15:16 | 4388840 dogbreath
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I can understand why you say thet but, if you look at her eyes in close ups - very dark and evil.    Google her and read her biography and the prettiness disappears

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 15:20 | 4388850 Spastica Rex
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Beauty is skin deep.

It's sad that her beauty is the only thing I find remarkable about her - other than that, just another gangster.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 15:39 | 4388894 Pseudo Anonym
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yeah, but i'd personally give this particular gangster a second chance to redeem herself at my place for all the wrongs.  edit: she was just a bad girl and needs good spanking to be a good girl again.

Sat, 02/01/2014 - 00:58 | 4390636 NZ Watcher
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Dam - trying to find a vid of her - that would show you her "true" side

The Gaz Princess

Shes a real class act is our Yulia - she knows the ropes and the strings to pull.

Anyway she will be out of jail and back into politics very soon I do fear - and she will pillage and squander again

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 14:59 | 4388753 TrustWho
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I have worked with oligarchs in Argentina and Russia. I do believe America had a positive impact on business transparency for a time. We had discussions about how society would be better off if the rules could be trusted by all. They said that is probably correct, but we are still buying pharmaceutical API from China run it through our FDA Hungarian plant and sell it to stupid Americans for $2500 per Kilo with all the papers they require and $250 per kilo to the practical people of the world without the papers. Thank God I did not work in that subsidiary. Americans had to join the competitive world and pharmaceutical industry is headed to India. The war has been lost on corruption and society is headed towards a darker time because of the corruption of the leaders---not the convenience store robbing drug addicts.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 15:42 | 4388969 lolmao500
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Not to mention, if you read wikileaks cables... Ukraine supplied Saudi Arabia with very advanced missile technology....

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 15:44 | 4388983 Slamshizzlestein
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For future reference Tyler Durden, the proper way to address this country is as "Ukraine" and not "the Ukraine". Ukrainians get offended by the inclusion of "the" as it implies ownership or a subregion (of Russia). FYI.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 15:57 | 4389039 Yardfarmer
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to start off with Martin Armstrong must have has his brain matter severly tweaked at Fort Dix prior to his release and hasn't been capable of any coherent thinking since his release. but to the point. was it merely fortuitous that the present turmoil was instigated around the time of the latest IMF Article IV consultations with the Ukraine government and large financial institutions on December 13, 2013? probably not. referring to IMF documents themselves concerning the vast indebtedness incurred and accruing exponentially due to IMF structual adjustments, the noose has been tightened significantly with the IMF, so called "donors", hedge funds et al... calling as usual for significant "concessions" such as increased taxation, gutting of government pension funds, currency depreciation and rising interest rates, along with wage and price controls leading to endemic unemployment. the IMF pulling all these economic levers is the 800 pound gorilla in the room which no one seems to notice, resulting in the predictable and inevitable IMF economic destabilization and accompanying riots which have been the template for the past several decades in third world and "emerging" economies and most recently in the Eurozone. The gangster Yanukovich and his various satraps ensconced in the banking system are the economic hatchet men and hegemons for the IMF overlords while engaged in the favorite IMF recompense, gratuitously looting the national treasury and privatizing state resources and utilities at the expense of national development. as in Krygyzstan in 2010, when the Basiev family after their particular "color revolution" played the Russians off against the Americans after eviscerating the economy, plundering the treasury and transferring the assets and physical wealth of the Kumtor gold mine to foreign donors and themselves and their cronies the result was massive social unrest, urban violence and sanguinary,ethnic strife.

"What for some of us might appear then to be merely another titillating third world IMF riot á la Joseph Stiglitz suddenly assumes a larger proportion, perhaps foreshadowing the rapidly evolving and inevitable confrontation brewing between the U.S., China, and the resurgent Russian federation as the world economic structural collapse accelerates and access to dwindling energy, food, and water resources becomes an increasingly essential concern of national security agendas."


Fri, 01/31/2014 - 16:07 | 4389090 TORNasunder
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So what countries are not run by corrupt officials? The list must be short. I can think of Iceland and some of the Nordic countries maybe?

No wonder the world economy is set to implode. Corruption chasing after corruption. Yea, I have a pretty good idea why these banksters are committing suicide or being suicided.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 17:14 | 4389318 GoinFawr
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"Evil oft mars itself" - JRR Tolkien

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 16:24 | 4389102 GoinFawr
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Better watch out, the cossacks are channeling Taras Bulba again,

"Hear ye, beer swillers and brewers, have done with your brewing and lolling on warm stoves and feeding the flies with your fat carcasses! Come forward and win chivalrous honour and glory! Ye ploughmen, sowers, shepherds and womanizers: enough of following your plows, dirtying your yellow boots in the mire, and wasting your knightly strength chasing after skirts!"-Gogol

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 16:13 | 4389110 Son of Captain Nemo
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Because "they" are so, Sooo... Very much like American!!!...  Well at least in the West and South of the Country that is!

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 16:17 | 4389131 22winmag
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Mercenaries are easy to hire, but often hard to fire.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 16:35 | 4389200 401-Kulak
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Yanukovych makes Corzine look like Mother Theresa.  His dentist son has amassed a billion.

Oh yeah - the reason for so many Russians in eastern Ukraine is because western Ukraine was part of Poland when Russia tried to kill them all.

Fri, 01/31/2014 - 16:44 | 4389225 GoinFawr
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Interesting, for some reason I am reminded of how Hawai'i was gerrymandered into becoming part of the US

Sat, 02/01/2014 - 01:02 | 4390643 NZ Watcher
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Dentist son - 540 million actually

Sat, 02/01/2014 - 15:25 | 4391612 kashey
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There were so many Russians in Eastern Ukrain because it had never been Ukrainian before 1921 or when UkrSSR was established by communists. It has always been Russia and before it - Crimean Tatars' land.

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