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The White House (And Its Faithful) Scramble To Refute CBO Report On Obamacare Job Losses

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Earlier we reported how, in the CBO's own words, Obamacare would result in (at least) 2.5 million (soon to be revised much higher) workers departing the labor force over the next decade, that would stay there were it not for the skewed incentives provided by this latest welfare Ponzi scheme. Sure enough, it took the White House mere moments to share its canned retort seeking to control the major fallout this report generated as it goes, once again, against all of Obama's promises. From Reuters: "The White House on Tuesday refuted arguments that Obamacare reforms will hurt jobs, and said a new report from the Congressional Budget Office finds the reforms will spur hiring during the 2014-2016 period. "Claims that the Affordable Care Act hurts jobs are simply belied by the facts in the CBO report," the White House said in a statement about the report, contradicting assessments that said the CBO showed reforms will result in a cut to hours." So job losses after 2016, but before then the surge in hiring - of part-time workers - offset by mass layoffs of full-time workers as employers seek to game Obamacare. Just say that then.

Of course, the White House scrambling to contain the damage is expected. However, nothing compares to the "explanation" provided by The Bezos Post's internal "fact checker."  The "explanation" there why "No, CBO did not say Obamacare will kill 2 million jobs" (which it did) is truly an example of a Goebbelsian work of art when it comes slaying any facts that do not fit the "glorious leader" narrative.

The so-called "facts" according to the "fact-checker":

First, this is not about jobs. It’s about workers — and the choices they make.

 

One big issue are the health insurance subsidies in the law. That’s a substantial benefit that decreases as people earn more money, so at a certain point, a person has to choose between earning more money or getting less help with health insurance payments. In other words, they might work longer and harder, but actually earn no more, or earn even less, money. That is a disincentive to work. (The same thing happens when people qualify for food stamps or other social services.)

 

Thus, someone might decide to work part-time, not full time, in order to keep getting health care subsidies. Thus, they are reducing their supply of labor to the market.

 

...

 

The CBO did look at the effect on demand for labor (i.e., jobs) but said that the effects are mostly on the margins or are not measurable. In fact, in contrast to a common GOP talking point, the CBO declares that “there is no compelling evidence that part-time employment has increased as a result of the ACA.”

 

Finally, we should note that the figures (2 million, etc.) are shorthand for full-time equivalent workers—a combination of two conclusions: fewer people looking for work and some people choosing to work fewer hours. The CBO added those two things and produced a hard number, but it actually does not mean 2 million fewer workers.

So, as a result of skewed incentives courtesy of Obamacare, there will be 2.5 million workers (or, by some forced logic 5 million part-time workers and so on) in the labor force over the next decade. In other words precisely what all those articles that the WaPo supposedly is refuting are saying?

Of course, by that "logic", Americans can't wait to earn less so they fall into that sweetspot where the government "welfare cliff", i.e., free handouts, is the highest, as we reported over a year ago:

And this is what passes for "refuting" a fact in our day and age? May at least have added a few kittens and a slideshow to at least generate some ad revenue for Jeff Bezos.

 

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Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:04 | 4401204 Iriestx
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HOPE and CHANGE!

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:07 | 4401223 Syrin
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Welcome to the Reichland

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:20 | 4401293 pods
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Obama lied and the economy died.

pods

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:34 | 4401347 knukles
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"I'm seeing through you"

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:00 | 4401469 Sudden Debt
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TSA guy he?

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:40 | 4401373 Pegasus Muse
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Nobody hides the truth and dishes out the http://tinyurl.com/oqj6szj like the Obama. 

Here's your award, Barry; you earned it:  http://tinyurl.com/okk3slo   

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:51 | 4401409 texas sandman
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So, who ya gonna believe, Dear Leader MaoBama or your lying eyes and ears.....hmmmmm?

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:01 | 4401474 Colonel Klink
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MaoBama?  Because I'm allergic to FEMA trailers and he's now got his private army he told us about, the D  H   S.  (said in my best Hans Gruber voice)

Wed, 02/05/2014 - 00:51 | 4402889 Chuck Walla
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Eins volk
Eins Reich
Eins fuehrer
FORWARD KONZENTRATIONSLAGER

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:15 | 4401264 XenoFrog
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It'll be fun seeing all the Obamunists jump across the fence on their opinions of the CBO.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:23 | 4401302 pods
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The CBO is like Al-CIA-Duh.  We like them when it suits us, and bomb them when we don't.

Empires crumbling is easy pickings for editorials.  Yet all we get is "Don't worry, be happy."

Figures.

pods

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:05 | 4401500 Jena
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At the White House Press Briefing, the phrase 'workers may choose to spend more time with their families' was uttered to explain why fewer of them would be putting in full time hours.

They're just so cute in their adorable-ness.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 19:17 | 4401931 Meat Hammer
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Funny, I seem to recall countless statists claiming that social programs do not incentivize people to work less, that they are a stepping stone to greatness.  And now these statists say that these programs do discourage hard work.  It's almost like they twist the narrative to fit their agenda.  

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 19:51 | 4402039 Blano
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I didn't watch the Half Black Cracker give the SOTU address, but wasn't he recently pimping how good CBO's numbers are because they're "nonpartisan?"

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:22 | 4401296 Offthebeach
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Drone CBO building in 7...6...5...4

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:02 | 4401482 Colonel Klink
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It'll be an "accidental" implosion disguised to look like a drone/plane strike.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:35 | 4401359 yogibear
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Dictator Obama has spoken.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:07 | 4401510 negative rates
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YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:25 | 4401601 Annoyingserf
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....bereave in. 

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:06 | 4401218 max2205
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Heads will roll on this one

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:12 | 4401258 LawsofPhysics
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Optimist.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:15 | 4401544 Occams_Chainsaw
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Actually...IRS audit.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:09 | 4401224 jcaz
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Fuck you, Barry-  can't keep the truth hidden for long these days....

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:44 | 4401386 Professor Fate
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Barry Soetoro...the master of ObamaThink: "The power of advancing two contradictory beliefs simultaneously, and convincing the butt sniffing masses to accept both of them.”

Fate the Magnificent
"Push the Button, Max"

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:10 | 4401231 stant
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who has the worst credibilty?

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:09 | 4401236 NoWayJose
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Problem solved!  Obamacare will result in the loss of 2.5 million FULL time jobs, but as those workers are cut back to part-time status, they will seek second jobs.  Thus there is no loss of any jobs, and Obama can double-count them as 'new jobs' when they obtain part-time employment with a second job!  Victory!

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:11 | 4401244 Syrin
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Yep, they can work in the morning digging holes, then in their second job in the evening, they fill the holes they dug in the mornimg.   Repeat for a few decades and WEALTH FOR ALL !!

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:09 | 4401521 negative rates
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Yea, cause early to bed, early to rise, makes one healthy, wealthy, and dead.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 18:57 | 4401875 AGuy
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"Problem solved! Obamacare will result in the loss of 2.5 million FULL time jobs, but as those workers are cut back to part-time status, they will seek second jobs. Thus there is no loss of any jobs, and Obama can double-count them as 'new jobs' when they obtain part-time employment with a second job! Victory!"

Not exactly, since 1+ Million will be laid off healthcare workers as demand for medical services decline. At best these people will need to go back to school to learn skills for a new occupation.

 

 

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:09 | 4401237 Dr. Venkman
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Ahh. So the headline should read: ObamaCare to add 2 million more subjects to the list of those whose earning potential is effectively capped due to poorly conceived welfare system.

That's much sexier. Unfortunately it won't fit above the fold.

Nice try, kiddos.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:14 | 4401259 Iriestx
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The bullshit the Obama administration produces is the only shovel-ready job so far.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:14 | 4401265 overexposed
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With the "intellectual" leadership in this country (in the Government-Entertainment-Media orgy) being as braindead as it is, it's pretty clear that the USA has absolutely no future under the form of government we have today.

Either it goes full-on Ingsoc and we all get to learn the joys of living under full-on Soviet central planning,

Or some state with access to a large portion of the military says "F**k it" and starts the secession ball rolling.

I don't see it happening any other way, which is pretty depressing. (At least there will always be Switzerland!)

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:30 | 4401333 LawsofPhysics
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The world will get by either way.  As the debt became unbearable in the Soviet Union, many states seceded and the "Union" ceased to exist.  The good news is that when they ceased to exist, much of their debt disappeared as well.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:25 | 4401605 El Vaquero
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It'll get worse first.  Then we'll actually have to deal with that pesky calorie problem, especially as it relates to pumping water and growing food. 

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 19:27 | 4401959 Meat Hammer
Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:17 | 4401272 HyBrasilian
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You didn't lose that job

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:24 | 4401300 tarsubil
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Obama eats 3 million jobs that he shits for breakfast.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:23 | 4401303 slightlyskeptical
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3:30 Dump

3:30 Bump

What's it going to be?

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:26 | 4401312 Spastica Rex
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Will no-one think of the insurance companies?

Then they came for the insurance adjusters and I did not speak out, for I was not an insurance adjuster.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:28 | 4401315 TonyCoitus
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Bullish!

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:27 | 4401319 replaceme
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how does that play out? you lose a fulltime job, get a couple part time, sign up for obamacare and get it for the low, low cost of free?  Honestly, the whole admin is a disincentive to work.  Get yourself a dollar house and a big dog, get a part time job where you can smoke hoopy doopy, and laugh at the last of the workers as they come home for dinner.  Stoned to the bone.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:32 | 4401340 Spastica Rex
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Think of all the fruit that could have been picked, but will now rot on the ground. Washington State apples are going to cost $12.00/lb.  Think of all the hotel rooms that won't be vacuumed, and all the lawns that will never be mowed again, their brown, dry tops waving softly in an August breeze.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 19:56 | 4402052 Blano
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Amnesty is gonna fix that.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:01 | 4401465 _SILENCER
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It's designed to brankrupt you, drown you in useless red tape, restrictions and chaos, and still manage to make you become dependent.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:31 | 4401337 29.5 hours
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What a lie the CBO report is. The entire onus for loss of labor force is put on working people. Supposedly, in our millions, we will voluntarily elect to leave the labor force or work fewer hours.

Yes, ObamaCare will have a bad effect on the work force--partly caused by that act's encouragement to employers to cut hours to avoid federal bureaucracy.

The CBO report turns the victim into the criminal.

 

 

 

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:36 | 4401354 Spastica Rex
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OFF SCRIPT

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:33 | 4401342 esum
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grandpa .... what's a full time job ?

 

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:56 | 4401440 ncdirtdigger
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Filling out govco forms to get your cheese is a full time job Billy.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:59 | 4401453 James-Morrison
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Well little esum, we used to carry large mechanical timepieces and it was quite an effort to keep them wound tight and running. Grandma used to call it, my full time job.

What was the question again?

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:59 | 4401454 replaceme
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Grandma, what's a pa? 

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:07 | 4401495 Sudden Debt
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a uncle that doesn't leave after 1 week

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:11 | 4401533 negative rates
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There's an app for that junior, now leave me alone.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:35 | 4401357 rlouis
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Liars hire liars

Only liars can work for liars. 

Only liars will work for liars

 

Believing anything a liar working for a liar says is just plain stupid.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:44 | 4401388 sschu
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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/370021/employees-react-obamacare-veronique-de-rugy

 

Watch this report.  Coming to a place of employment sometime this year soon enough.

sschu

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 19:24 | 4401949 nightshiftsucks
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That video is a gem,I hope that happens to millions of people accross this country.The hangings will start shortly.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:52 | 4401415 Joebloinvestor
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That racist CBO!

 

How dare they!

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:54 | 4401433 ncdirtdigger
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I know where my cheese is.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:04 | 4401486 Sudden Debt
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glad you found it... NOW TAKE A BATH!!!!

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:57 | 4401439 Colonel Klink
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King Obama makes his declaration on employment.  So sayeth he, let it be so!  Don't worry, be crappy.

CBO will be off by a factor of 5 or more by their 2017 date if ObamaSCAM is still on the books, and backs of the 'murikan people.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:56 | 4401442 Australian Economist
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I wonder, taking into account Obamacare and College loan repayments, what the effective tax rate would be for a health twentysomething earning say $30k pa?

 

My guess would be around 80%, any ideas?

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 16:59 | 4401458 Colonel Klink
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New 1040all form.

A.  How much do you make?

B.  Send it in!  (See instruction booklet for penalties and compliance, at the working end of our armed tax agents.)

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:02 | 4401487 James-Morrison
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0%

They don't have jobs, are not buying into Obamacare BS, and if they did find work, their loan payments would qualify them for subsidies.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:09 | 4401477 kchrisc
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So if one considers the CBO's numbers as spun and underestimated, lies, then the admin's lies would be lies about lies.

Even Orwell didn't imagine something so ridiculous.

 

"Lies, damn lies, and guillotines."

 

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:03 | 4401480 Sudden Debt
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2 MILLION IS JUST WRONG!!!

THOSE IDIOTS! HOW DO THEY GET SUCH A FOOLISH NUMBER!!!??!!

more probably 4 to 5 million....

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:02 | 4401485 Gyoza Mimi
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You've got to love the free market purists.

"Having food (food stamps) is a huge disinsentive to work." Yes, US must go back to good'ol'times when access to food compelled people to do some work, like 18 hours a day/7 days a week on plantations.

I recon, wouldn't it be nice to gather all purists - Peter Schiff and alike - and let them taste a bit of the world they advocate to build. Let them earn their way to a bag of daliy McDonalds throw aways by srabbing toilets for 18 hours, as it it a true market value of them and their theories.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 19:07 | 4401903 Slave
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Please point me to a place and time in history when this happened.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 19:10 | 4401914 Baldrick
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new troll. 3 years and 23 weeks.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 20:35 | 4402148 Gyoza Mimi
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Hm, let me see, continuously from about 100,000 BC to 1920s. But for a typical ZH reader nowadays - a 21-year-old 2-year C- average BBA hopeful - its far too much to know and remember. Brainlessly shouting slogans to feel smarter than the rest of the world is more accessible.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 21:34 | 4402338 nightshiftsucks
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You obviously had some bad LSD trips while listening to Obummers speeches.It's also obvious what we have today is not working so why don't you show us your superior intelligence and suggest something different.I'm sure your recall of useless information will be of great benefit to you.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 19:22 | 4401939 nightshiftsucks
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Gyoza is in Obummers army and a fucking libtard.Go crawl under a rock you piece of shit.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 19:35 | 4401988 Meat Hammer
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Says the guy commenting on a website, with a computer, while sitting on a piece of furniture, under a roof, wearing clothes, purchased from a store to which he probably drove, in his car, past scores of other stores, many of which he has probably patronized to obtain useful items for other aspects of his life made possible by the free market.

I'm sorry, you were saying?

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:20 | 4401571 El Vaquero
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Sooo, the asshats in the WH are claiming that the overly optimistic CBO should have been overly optimistic-er, and are claiming that they were more overly optimistic than they actually were?  Did I get that right?

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:25 | 4401599 The Dismalist
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"... the effects are mostly on the margins..."

Wtf? I'm sorry, but DAMNED NEAR ALL ECONOMIC EFFECTS ARE ON THE MARGINS! That's kind of the whole point of the idea of marginal analysis.

Did the same dumb #!&%$? who put the upward-sloping demand curve on the Daily Show come up with this brilliant economic insight, that because effects occur on the margins they therefore aren't important?

If this crew remains in office past 2016, I'm buying 20 acres in a remote region of the country and stockpiling for the coming collapse.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:25 | 4401600 The Dismalist
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"... the effects are mostly on the margins..."

Wtf? I'm sorry, but DAMNED NEAR ALL ECONOMIC EFFECTS ARE ON THE MARGINS! That's kind of the whole point of the idea of marginal analysis.

Did the same dumb #!&%$? who put the upward-sloping demand curve on the Daily Show come up with this brilliant economic insight, that because effects occur on the margins they therefore aren't important?

If this crew remains in office past 2016, I'm buying 20 acres in a remote region of the country and stockpiling for the coming collapse.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:28 | 4401609 AKrandy
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After attempting reading that WaPost obfuscation, my head feels like it's going to go full "Scanners"

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:33 | 4401629 tamqntvjssjwrixkzegz
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Raysiss, it's pronounced rayciss... Now back to work scumbags, that welfare queen needs a new liver. Not to mention the muffler on her black Lincoln MKZ is getting a little loud, (I think her anchor baby is driving the silver one.)

Oh wait I forgot, no one in Murka's got a full time job anymore thanks to 'Obamacare'.

 

 As a Canuck I am hilariously amused at the hue & cry over the move in america to a even a semi-universal health care system. Welcome to the rest of the civilized free thinking world.

Your best buds the Israelis have one, so I'd guessed you'd be all over it, but alas. By the logic some expound in the comments section one might think there are no more full time positions available in say Germany, Sweden or the UK since 'socialized medicine' as only americans term it will have killed them all.

  Guess what. The ACA didn't kill all your full time jobs. Thats already 'mission accomplished' thanks to the Squid, the Chase & the JPM et al.

 

Pardon me, I have to get back to my full time private sector well paying non-union job in 'work camp Canada'...and no, it's not on the oil patch. I am not gloating at all either as I know full well we Canucks are going straight to the bottom with ya.

cheers

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:35 | 4401636 notquantumdum
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Based on its historical track record of predictions with social security, medicare, medicaid, medicare part D, et Al.; if the "non-partisan" CBO says there will be 2.5 million full-time jobs lost, the actual number will be closer to 25 million, in my expectations.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:56 | 4401697 linrom
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Thie chart above is sponsored by AEI. According to RIGHT WING WATCH:

The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI) is one of the oldest and most influential of the pro-business right-wing think tanks. It promotes the advancement of free enterprise capitalism, and has been extremely successful in placing its people in influential governmental positions, particularly in the Bush Administration. AEI has been described as one of the country's main bastions of neoconservatism.

 

I don't know what role AEI played in this report, but its brought to you by them. Some former trustees include Kenneth Lay and Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, and now it brought in Joe Liberman as a resident scholar?

This think tank promotes Militarism, so I would not be surprised that it perceives Public Welfare as a budgetary threat.

 

How is ZH connected to all these right-wing-extremists? I don't know, but the Von Mises Institute from Canada is backed by Erick Sprott and I am certain that it only exists to post right wing pro gold agenda on ZH.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 18:11 | 4401711 dexter_morgan
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Cheney is CBO.....wow, who knew. As stated, and it's faithful are out to defend the indefensible with stupid shit thrown out there.

 

Dude, this isn't Huffpo or Kos where throwing out name like Cheney, Wolfowitz, Soros scares anyone off from looking deeper. May work with liberal lemmings and sheeple, but you stumbled on wrong sight for red/blue shit.

 

If it's wrong please explain so instead of throwing a bunch of bogey men out there and having NO credibility about your refutation.

fucking ID10T

 

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 18:43 | 4401844 linrom
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This report and the underlying research as presented in the original paper by AEI, which frames the CBO report has no creditability. It's basic propaganda that attempts to divide working class.

I have no idea about Obamacare's long term effect, but neither does CBO and AEI is not an institution that would ever support any form of Public Welfare.

Before you attack my opinion, find out who works or who has worked for AEI.  Why should I assume that any politically motivated research by AEI is not just another analysis that is similar to fabricating lies for US involvement in yet another war. Who the FUCK are these people: Bill Kristol, Eric Frum, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Joe Liberman---they are all scholars at AEI.

 

Go FUCK yourself dick? I don't read Kos , Huffpo.

 

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 21:45 | 4402381 Teknopagan
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Only four out of five. Cheney is a sabbat tool

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 18:27 | 4401795 FrankDrakman
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Why don't you scurry away to a li-berry and look up 'ad hominem'? You might find in a big book called a 'dicktionary', where I suspect you'd feel right at home.  

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 19:19 | 4401930 nightshiftsucks
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There is no right wing agenda on ZH,the agenda here is fuck ALL of the criminal politicians

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 21:12 | 4402264 satoshi911
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ZH has always been a right-wing blog, ... ZH will always be a right-wing blog.

ZH is a tool of AIPAC, AIPAC zionism, neo-con, ... they need a controlled opposition.

Thus ZH exists only to obfuscate and distract people, but in general only Rush Limbaugh types are attracted to the 24/7 narrative on ZH.

 

Wed, 02/05/2014 - 02:38 | 4403037 damicol
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youv'e been sucking obummers dick again havn't you.

Back on your knees catmite, His useless dick is wilting again, you don't have time to waste coming on here

 

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:56 | 4401699 PGR88
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And when the CBO says they expect this in 10 years, they actually mean 2 years

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 17:59 | 4401703 dexter_morgan
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WHADDAYA EXPECT FOR SHIT WRITTEN OVER IN BELARUS.....oh wait, they were able to get story pulled. So sorry.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 18:20 | 4401776 squid427
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Jay Carney said some of those leaving the work force would people retiring early because of Ocrapcare. This law is working so well millinos will retire early and ride off into the sunset. Fucking laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

@dexter_morgan

SUNNYVALE FOR LIFE!!!!!

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 19:33 | 4401985 Goldilocks
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Creepy Carnival Music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-9aadliuwM (1:12)

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 19:58 | 4402062 Golden Showers
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Please define "wages".

Title 26 USC. Go to Cornell Law on the interweb and look it up, biaatch. Explain to me: I do not live in DC, Puerto Rico or Marutian Islands, Guam or an "American Protectorate". I am not a Federal employee or a soldier. I have not taken an oath of office. I am not an "American Citizen" although I was born in the geographical America, unlike the Prez.

I do not give up my freedom for benifits and priveledges, a prius, or a bumper sticker. Not to mention Blowbamacare. Please, go sign up for it because you are weak, lazy and stupid.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 20:00 | 4402063 lakecity55
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Again, the "ACA" was designed for only 1 purpose: The Collapse of the USA.

Forward, Soviet!!

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 21:06 | 4402241 tamqntvjssjwrixkzegz
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 The USA has been slowly collapsing around your furry ears since 1953. Thats when 'Murka started losing all those silly wars it started around the globe and racking up massive debt to do it. USA could of had universal healthcare for americans after WWII and paid for it too. However it was deemed more important to try to control the hearts & minds of Koreans, Cubans & Veitnamese. 'Murka still has a stupid embargo against tiny Cuba due to the butthurt of the failure. Some of the best doctors in the world these days those Cubans.

Collapse of the USA is baked in at this point.

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 23:13 | 4402607 FredFlintstone
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"Universal" healthcare, what rational human would want that?

Tue, 02/04/2014 - 21:42 | 4402366 Teknopagan
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goebbelsian. Must be Armenian.

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