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"F**k The EU" - US State Department Blasts Europe; Revealed As Alleged Mastermind Behind Ukraine Unrest
A leaked recording of a telephone conversation allegedly between US assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt discussing who should be in Ukraine's next government has, according to The FT, threatened to fuel east-west tensions over the troubled nation's future. In apparent frustration with the EU – which has failed to join the US in threatening sanctions against Ukraine’s leaders if they violently crush the protests – the voice resembling Ms Nuland at one point exclaims "Fuck the EU". As the two US diplomats decide whether "Klitsch" or "Yats" should be 'in' or 'out', listeners will be reminded (uncomfortably) that the governments of Ukraine and Russia previously alleged that the protests are being funded and orchestrated by the US.
The authenticity of the recording has not been confirmed (though comparisons to Nuland's recent media appearances provide some confidence) - the FT reported that the US embassy in Kiev declined to comment, which is a tacit admission: if the clip was a fake, the US would immediately make it clear.
Needless to say, as the FT adds, "[this clip] could also bolster a propaganda campaign by the governments of Ukraine and Russia alleging that the protests that erupted against Ukraine’s President Viktor Yanukovich last November are being funded and orchestrated by the US." Its release ahead of the day the Sochi Olympics start is also somewhat disturbing.
An excerpt on the US meddling...
“I think Yats [Yatsenyuk] is the guy who’s got the economic experience, the governing experience,” Nuland says. “What he needs is Klitsch [Klitschko] and [Oleh] Tyahnybok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week, you know. I just think Klitsch going in, he’s going to be at that level, working for Yatsenyuk, it’s just not going to work.”
Pyatt agrees.
“Let me work on Klitschko,” he can be heard saying, “and I think we should get a Western personality to come out here (to Ukraine) and midwife this thing.”
The controversial alleged Nuland "Fuck The EU" clip... (the discussion of the EU and UN involvement begins around 2:50)
And for comparison's sake - Nuland last month delivering a statement on the situation in Ukraine...
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In a clip posted on YouTube, voices resembling those of Victoria Nuland, a US assistant secretary of state, and Geoffrey Pyatt, ambassador to Ukraine, are heard talking by telephone about how to resolve the stand-off in Kiev after two months of anti-government protests.
In apparent frustration with the EU – which has failed to join the US in threatening sanctions against Ukraine’s leaders if they violently crush the protests – the voice resembling Ms Nuland at one point exclaims “F**k the EU”.
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The two voices suggest Arseny Yatseniuk, the opposition leader and a former foreign minister, should be in a new government in Kiev. But Vitali Klitschko, a former heavyweight boxer and identified as “top dog” among opposition leaders, is also described as inexperienced and needing to “do his political homework”.
The voice resembling Ms Nuland refers to the two men as “Yats” and “Klitsch”.
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It could also bolster a propaganda campaign by the governments of Ukraine and Russia alleging that the protests that erupted against Ukraine’s President Viktor Yanukovich last November are being funded and orchestrated by the US.
As we warned previously, after the Olympics, Ukraine becomes a very hot spot indeed...
The Western powers represented by the EU and the US have nothing to stand on to protect Ukraine and can only offer lip-service at best. So once again, it appears that Ukraine is doomed and the best one can hope for there, is that Russia will allow the West to leave. The countdown goes forward and the political and economic crisis is indicative of what we see with the first shot across the bow in the rising trend of the Cycle of War.
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I don't have a problem with it either, if your problem was the profanity!! No one likes to use a little "emphasis", as much as I do! However, she is being disingenuous with the narrow scope of which she uses the word!
What Vicky really meant to say was this..........
"You fuck with America or the USD.........and fuck the world, will burn this whole fucking planet to the ground"
Now that would have been honestly refreshing and 100% truthful, as far as this current WH and State Dept. is concerned!
So is the broke USA which is founded and financed by Europe...
I second the motion!
Killary
The stupid fuckers are going to get alot of us killed, constantly stirring shit up everywhere..I guess we should have listend a little harder to D.D.E....
Agree D.D.E. saw it coming and now it's here. Our state dept is full on infested with neocons whose hubris is only outmatched by their own stupidity. They seem quite desperate to start WW3. So how does that come about. It happens when we look weak and ineffective because we can't seem to figure out that The Red Baron had it right. Never fight a battle you can't win. Ukraine, like Syria, is just another unwinable battle. It's another opportunity to lose credibility on the world stage. Putin will soon take charge and there is little we can do about it, nor should we. The place is 50% russian.
That's the self-righteous arrogant filth that gets thousands killed every time, it's always the same personality types. That the fate of us all depends on what comes out of the brains of people like this, scares the fucking shit out of me. God forgive me, but i would love to watch them choke.
I listened to the original speech and comment on a little black and white TV; the only kind there was; and no one knew what he was talking about. We were completely naive.
D.D.E. =
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D.D.E = President Dwight David Eisenhower, also known as Ike. One hell of a man. Also famous for being Supreme Commander of Allied forces in Europe during WW2. He led the D-day invasion 6-6-1944. He was not a big speech guy, but his farewell speech is considered his best. In that speech he warned us all about the rising political influence of the War Industry, The Military Industrial Complex.
For the young: DDE = Dwight David Eisenhower
(Edit: not quick enough)
what she SHOULD have said..
"FUCK BEN BERNANKE, END THE FED!"
wasted opportunity..
There's a turd in the NSA punchbowl...
lol
It just adds to the war of words (for now) between John McStain and Putin via twitter. When McShame went to Ukraine to cheer on the crowds to die for added camera emphasis was all the corroboration I needed. Fuck McSwine.
Exactly the same voice and accent in both clips; no doubt in my mind.
European and I'm a Putin
Unfortunately there is no such thing as forensic equipment to verify the voice as genuine or anything.......
http://www.audioforensicexpert.com/tag/voice-identification-2/
O. K.
Wait until its officially denied :))))
Cult reasoner
The authenticity of the recording has been confirmed
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-06/state-department-confirms-authe...
The authenticity of the recording has not been confirmed = we haven't made up our CYA lies yet.
i explicitly stated that these 'protests' are funded by the USA many weeks ago; they are ALSO funded by the EU.....when Olympikz conclude look for dynamic changes and a FUCK the US! response...
Oh snap, you mean Russia has wiretaps too??? Hahahahaha
Victoria noodleman ( her pre name change name ) is a real smooth cunt. Not in a good way either.
What...?
well played man. LOL. I had a mobile double post meldown.
Victoria noodleman ( her pre name change name ) is a real smooth cunt. Not in a good way either.
I want a vicious little Jewish Princess......
http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/jewish-princess-frank-zappa-home-made-...
I had a chance to snag a few Druish Princesses but blew them off.
mad props to whomever released this to the plebes of the world.
fav line paraphrased : Biden's ready to come in to give the "Attaboy"
How will they blame this one on Snowden?
Simple, NSA has a time travelling machine.
she's been reading the Zh forums?
Is it just me or does Victoria Nuland comes across as a dizbang lightweight being controlled by "subordinate" Geoffrey Pyatt, whose basically telling her what's what ?
This is soooo shocking, after all, Victoria Nuland's husband was one of the founding members of PNAC, Robert Kagan.
And Victoria Nuland was appointed by Hillary Clinton, and Hillary Clinton was chair of the MCC when it financed the overthrow of democratically elected president of Honduras, Zelaya, just because he wanted to raise their national minimum wage by a few pennies.
Oh....wait.....nevermind!
(And douchetard Nuland attacked WikiLeaks and Julian Assange --- which one would most definitely expect, along with all her other perfidy.)
Kagan is also a Skull and Bones man.
Please tell me it's not true; this is beginning to read like the plot of a bad paper-back about a world domination cabal. When does James Bond show up?
Fair enough, and about time, but.....
.... When will the State Department tell John McCain to reign it in.
After all, he's part of the US "Government" in one guise or another, and yet he seems to spend most of his time egging on parties and counter-parties to wage war against each other. The Cunt.
But yeah, other than that, Kudos.
I'm in total agreement wth her opinion of the EU
I'm in total agreement wth her opinion of the EU
Indeed. . . at least we know what the Project for the New American Century thinks. . . . I wonder if Klitsch to funnel some dough to the Kagan pet think tanks to get the Chalabi rehabilitation plan
It was clear from day 1 that either the U.S. or the EU were behind the uprising in the Ukraine. So now it comes out officially.
The Russian Secretary of State plays Chess at a level of 1900; Nuland would like to play marbles, if she could remember the rules. Hard to do well with a team of morons.
When are the US politicians and Americans themselves are going to realize that other countries and their people are just as good in intelligence gathering as we are if not better. The reason so is because many of us are deluded into thinking that we are superior and the others around the world use that against us like chess.
So I can only surmise that Snowden gave the Russians a little help on where to look and how stuff works. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
Nuland must be a Zero Hedger...we talk like that too
really? you have to use profanity to make a point?
We don't have to fucking swear, but if a point needs to be made with emphasis, then hell yes, we will use all the profanity we can muster. We are not afraid of words and of using them as they are needed. And we're not afraid of shock factor if the shock is needed.
Plus, we all just think, "Fuck the EU! Fuck Ben Bernanke and the Fed. And fuck Ol' Yellen (though I'd have to fuck her with your dick because mine wouldn't allow such a hideous thing to happen to it.)"
Grow a thicker hide, I am sure she didn't think this would ever hit the airwaves. This is no different than most corporate level discussions. In fact, it's quite tame considering the topic of controlling who goes where in someone else' government.
Interesting times we live in. I think these types of issues are what we are being shielded from as the American media spouts on about Justin B. and his deportation.
Reminds me of a 1/2 senile Ronald Reagan goofing around with the mic. about the Russians
But most including the Russians thought that shit was funny
While I very seldom use profanity to make my points, it seems prudish to call someone out for it.
Sometimes it just seems to add the exclamation needed to drive home a point or call out an impudent troll.
DaddyO
NOTW777
Yes, I call people vaginas an penises when they make me mad. Happy?
She was a spokeswoman for the State Department before that idiot, bitchy, and empty-headed Jen Psaki came in. I'm surprised to see Nuland now assistant secretary of state. Good to see there are a few people fighting the system from within. And F the EU, and their fucking mainstream-media coordinated attacks on anyone that questions the EU, Russia, and Ukraine's status.
Yeah but Psaki had a nicer rack.
Had or Has?
DaddyO
Fighting the system?
She is the system.
You think the likes of Nuland and Kagan are 'fighting the system'? Are you serious???? They are the system FFS!
Funny how the "pro-democracy" crowd in Vichy DC is dead set against the Ukrainian people selecting the government of Ukraine.
We here in the US don't get to select our own govt. - Why would we expect Ukrainians to have it any better?
In fact, where is there an actual transparent, clean, un-manipulated choice of government leadership that doesn't involve the "choice" between blue box#1 and red box#1 or equivalent folly?Antarctica
We can fucking change that! -- US State Department
Funny, the tyranny we've been sliding into has it's origins in too much democracy. Direct election of senators. The vote for women. These shifted the politicians from a governance style to a more populist , mob driven style, with all that came with that. Proto-fascism under Wilson. Welfare state expansion under FDR and his Dem congress, and all that followed, regulation by regulation, bureaucrat by fucking perma bureaucrat. We're past 47% now. Way past.
As soon as Nuland started talking about democracy and rule of law in the second clip, I couldn't stop laughing. Hypocritical bitch.
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Yes, I can see why that comment needed to be down-arrowed. I'd better add another one.
Thank you sir! May I have another?
The message was subliminal
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Western politicians who advocate freedom of choice for Ukraine, but say this must be a pro-European choice, have a strange interpretation of freedom, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told a security conference in Munich.
Lavrov was responding to numerous statements, including from the European Council President Hermann van Rompuy and NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, which were voiced just minutes before at the conference. He also criticized Western support for Ukrainian anti-government protests, which he said ignored the darker side of the movements behind the violence there.
“What does the inciting of street protests, which are growing increasingly violent, have to do with promoting democratic principles?” Lavrov said.
http://rt.com/news/lavrov-munich-ukraine-freedom-515/
The short answer is because the playbook says so. After all, it's a method well proven in Serbia, Libya, Egypt...
TWD's message to Victoria Jewland
So say we all!
It's "frack" the EU, if you're going to use "so say we all".
All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again.
Starbuck showed significant side boob in the last Riddick movie.
Kinda disappointing, actually.
Fuck you EU motherfuckers and the bankster hyenas from Brussels you rode in on!
And .gov, FED, and TBTF banksters - fuck all Y'all too!
Tough bitch, kinda sexy. Rootin' for the wrong team though.
Similar to a switch hitting jezebellian whore.
She's scarier looking than 'ol Hillary......and that ain't easy.
What strikes me is the amount of stupid corporate Americanism clichés Nuland and Pyatt use when talking. They could be some IT folks talking about a server going down or something, for Christ sakes
reach out, gains altitude ....gimme a break
seriously, they need to work on their cross-departmental synergies.
They're following management's new acronym-friendly initiatives, "Fully Utilize Cultural Knowledge," and "Strategically Harness Information Technology."
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"Upside Potentialities of Broadly Initiated Governmental Transformation Integrating Modal Effectiveness".
Agreed. They sounded like 2 low level corporate losers, but were they "On the same Hymn Sheet?"
A definate Bunny Boiler. Watch out!
Obama has just learned of this on Zerohedge and is outraged! He promises to get to the bottom of it.
A sitting President commits election fraud and high treason by abusing the powers of office to direct the IRS to stifle the political opposition in order to retain power, a ploy so offensive to liberty that one would think we were discussing Cuba or Venezuela. Yet that's no big deal, the real crisis is some diplomat drops an f bomb? lol we're so fucked.
How do you conclude the scandal was about a diplomat saying fuck? I read the article, and the point seems to be that the State Department is engaged in another regime change operation. Did you miss that?
Why would regime change be a scandal? We do that all the time.
The bigger story is energy - oil & natural gas, pipelines, strategic positioning and holding the whole criminal cartel together. There are those who may be hedging their bets and thus looking east - - - to Russia & China. That is a serious threat to the petro-dollar. So war, in many forms, is waged. - - - Of course, the people believe its about 'freedom','democracy', 'terrorism', or whatever b.s. story theyre told.
As far as the socio-path/psycho-paths are concerned, your very limited time living on this earth is not Your own life. They own it and you are nothing but a pawn in their 'Great Game'. And if they destroy the world in thermo-nuclear war . . . so be it. Their ego must be fed.
You can do it, its all up to you mmmmkay. You don't have to spend your life addicted to smack, homeless on the streets giving handjobs for crack... You should never say fuck, you should never say fuck, fuck no!
Will Reggie help 0zer0 get to the bottom of it?
have anyone priced geiger counters on ebay lately?
War! War! War!
PJ O'Rourke said it well in the title of one of his books...Give war a chance.
I'm not down with that, though. We plebes would just be fighting one another so TPTB can have a few more square miles of influence. Forget them. Everyone go have a glass of wine. Smoke 'em if you got 'em. And yes, we're talking about you, Colorado.
I am former military, but one of our portfolio companies has a major military contract, so i am mixed on this one.
I am former military, too.
Unless you forgot the sarc tag, fuck you, and fuck your contract.
Perfect example of what's wrong with the country.
"Welfare mothers
make better lovers..."
A cold war is heating up.
Putin gives asylum to Snowden despite strident protests from Obama.
Russia stops the war with Syria that Obama was lying and lusting for.
Then there are terrorist attacks in Russia that Prince Bandar had threatened Putin about.
Then Obama attacks Russian laws about gays and pointedly sends gays in the US delegation to Sochi.
Then there is unrest in the Ukraine in which the US ambassador to the Ukraine, Assistant Secretary Nuland, and Senator McCain encourage the opposition.
The US warns of terrorism at the Sochi Olympics.
Then the ruble hits a new low.
Then Obama insinuates that Russia may have violated a long-standing arms agreement.
The United States is now advising airlines with direct flights serving Russia to be aware of the possibility that explosive materials could be concealed in toothpaste or cosmetic tubes, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee said Wednesday night.
This new war has all aspects - terrorist, political, economic and military.
This new cold war is running a lot hotter than the old cold war.
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/10/pers-d10.html
John McCain tells Ukraine protesters: 'We are here to support your just cause'
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/15/john-mccain-ukraine-protest...
“I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics in the city of Sochi on the Black Sea next year,” said Bandar. “The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us.”
At the time, Bandar claimed to be speaking not only for the Saudi monarchy, but also for its chief ally, the United States.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/31/russ-d31.html
Pesident Barack Obama named openly gay athletes to the delegation that will represent the U.S. next year at opening and closing ceremonies for the Winter Olympics in Sochi, sending a clear signal to Russia about its treatment of gays and lesbians
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http://www.mercurynews.com/national-sports-news/ci_25025987/president-ob...
The Russian ruble hit a new low against the euro Monday
And don't forget the yogurt: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/06/nyregion/russia-blocking-a-yogurt-ship...
And don't forget the toilets in Sochi. It's a declaration of war against the civilized world.
The only reason the cold war was cold, was because the US economy was not in a depression from the 50's to 90's.
If the economy goes as many on ZH think it will, the next war will not be cold, it will be hot, very very hot.
So hot only the cockroaches will live to tell about it...
Uh, sure it wasnt more the thousands of nuclear warhead tipped ICBMs, SLBMs, cruise missiles, etc, all ready to fly? FYI that's still true, of both Russia and the USA.
I hope they are not stopping the condoms for the Olympics. Everyone knows that is the main event. Plus since athletes are poor, they must have free condoms.
Free the condoms!!!!
Russia doen't want that GMO tainted Chobani garbage in it's country.
No bigger scumbag has ever occupied the Whitehouse. Less competent than Carter. A bigger crook than Nixon. A smoother-talking double-dealing prevaricating lying sociopath than FDR. He's got them all beat.
Absolutely The Worst Ever ...
Hear, Hear! You ain't justa sh*ttin...... b*st*ard needs to have his polka dotted skin sand papered off and buried in salt....
I contest your assertion, the Kenyan never could have been elected without 8 years of Bush mayhem, the Kenyan pales in comparison to the damage Bush did, he's got his hands full just trying to keep all of Bush's Socialist programs cobbled together and funded, Obamacare was a just a stopgap measure to put off total collapse for a lil while longer.
TSA
Homeland Security
Carbon Taxes
No Child Left Behind
Headstart
GM bond screwjob
FNM FRE bailout
HARP HAMP TALF
(I could go on all day) -all Bush creations
i seriously doubt that Bush could create a descent sized booger without help let alon all of that legislation. Obama also. puppets.
He traded Sammy Sosa for fucks sake, I believe you are correct.
Well, his nickname was Shrub in Texas... cause he wasn't smart enough to be a full-grown Bush. (According to Molly Ivins. Bless you Molly, wherever you maybe.)
Obamacare staves off collapse....HOW, exactly?
Crack is not your friend. So we can be expecting 'Executive' action to reverse all that? The whole red/blue team shit is getting a little old actually........
I'd, of course, vote for Lincoln, but that's just me. Without his precedent setting shredding of the constitution none of this stuff would be possible. Well....possible is a strong word, but not as probable maybe.
IMO Nixon and FDR were far smarter.
O has the advantage of a population further dumbed down by t.v., public schooling, and various media. They are easily swayed by the race baiting tactics, and logic is foreign to them. . O does have that excellent deep voice tonality. Seemingly, he can say anything to some people and they will believe it because of voice tone alone.
Its pretty sad when you debate what American prez was the worst crook.
we are most truly in Idi Amin territory here.
I like a good conspiracy more than the next guy, and your post only re-enforces my belief that there really are secret inbred families that scheme and control everything.
To pull off 1/2 the shit you posted requires brilliance, timing, and coordination, the visible bunch of retards currently at the helm....coudn't even dream up.
But thank God for the ineptitude, as we would already be in a hot war
RE: opening and closing ceremonies ....... WTF would you expect from a Prez who is a fudgepacker....
uh?!
I heard the Prez was a fudge packee!
"Next year, the USA will host the Gay Olympics. I will light the eternal dildo torch."
--Backdoor Barry
So when the US false flags their own Olympic team packed with gay athletes, isn't that an instant tongue twister? Somebody help me out here...
False flags false flags flase flags flalse fags ... dammit!
Hey, spooks! Get to work! Get rid of the gay little weasel before he blows everyone up. Release the Files you have on him! Toss in some action pix with Reggie for a little spice!
it was the banker controled US govt all along....
Dear Uncle Sam, thanks for making us look like the biggest a-holes on the planet, Signed US Citizen. PS. Fuck you Barry & Co.!
Susan Rice surely will blame whatever Team Obama diplomatic clusterfuck that comes next on this faux-faked recording.
Holy shit.
thug government - where are the servant leaders??????????????????
Germany is already pissed about the gold delivery, they are pushing it now.
"beware of foreign entanglements" G. Washington
How quaint.
Between the propaganda the media is supplying on the Sochi hotel "attrocities" and the unrest in the Ukraine, it's quite apparent, the US is involved in destabilizing Russia at the behest of their puppet masters and their friends in Rjyad and Tel Aviv.
The House of Saud really wants a new Syrian government so the spice can flow.
Fuck these cunts.
George Soros is Dr. No. He wants to be the world's first trillionaire - and his time is running out.
...More likely, he's a little late.
dontgoforit,
isn't there someone in london who already wears that tag?
Russia does a fine job destabilizing itself through paranoid control freaky authoritarian central planning fuckwittery.
That guy Snowden has a long reach.
We are becoming the joke of the world....thanks to Obama and his ideals....the rest of the world does not play by those rules....or have those ideals...they rule by the gun and hammer....
Pretty sure that's a sickle and hammer but l o fucking l anyway! You can't make this shit up.......
That's very Fucking Honorable
No no, she said "Fuck He Yoo!". She meant to express her anger against her favorite Chinese tea store who is having troubles having her favorite teas in inventory as of lately.
I liked everything i heard on that call.
U.K and U.S., the British Empire on the march again.
March to where? Self-destruction? Hell? Ridicule? or a mixture of the three.
as for me living in EU, I say fuck the US!
As a soveriegn citizen, I say fuck them both.
Fuck the world..o wait...we have been doing that for years.
I would not want to be a U.S. citizen in Sochi right now...
The EU is in capable of getting anything done..ever..and if yanukovych isnt out before the olympics he will be hitting the ukrainains with a tyranny theyve havent seen since the 1930's. Putin will assure Yanukovych has everything he needs in terms of violent thugs, troops, torture and the other tools to end it once and for all and make sure no Western major fracks an ounce of gas out of Ukraine without Gazprom's say so.
EU apparatchicks are not up to the task at all. They are home by 4pm..