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"F**k The EU" - US State Department Blasts Europe; Revealed As Alleged Mastermind Behind Ukraine Unrest
A leaked recording of a telephone conversation allegedly between US assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt discussing who should be in Ukraine's next government has, according to The FT, threatened to fuel east-west tensions over the troubled nation's future. In apparent frustration with the EU – which has failed to join the US in threatening sanctions against Ukraine’s leaders if they violently crush the protests – the voice resembling Ms Nuland at one point exclaims "Fuck the EU". As the two US diplomats decide whether "Klitsch" or "Yats" should be 'in' or 'out', listeners will be reminded (uncomfortably) that the governments of Ukraine and Russia previously alleged that the protests are being funded and orchestrated by the US.
The authenticity of the recording has not been confirmed (though comparisons to Nuland's recent media appearances provide some confidence) - the FT reported that the US embassy in Kiev declined to comment, which is a tacit admission: if the clip was a fake, the US would immediately make it clear.
Needless to say, as the FT adds, "[this clip] could also bolster a propaganda campaign by the governments of Ukraine and Russia alleging that the protests that erupted against Ukraine’s President Viktor Yanukovich last November are being funded and orchestrated by the US." Its release ahead of the day the Sochi Olympics start is also somewhat disturbing.
An excerpt on the US meddling...
“I think Yats [Yatsenyuk] is the guy who’s got the economic experience, the governing experience,” Nuland says. “What he needs is Klitsch [Klitschko] and [Oleh] Tyahnybok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week, you know. I just think Klitsch going in, he’s going to be at that level, working for Yatsenyuk, it’s just not going to work.”
Pyatt agrees.
“Let me work on Klitschko,” he can be heard saying, “and I think we should get a Western personality to come out here (to Ukraine) and midwife this thing.”
The controversial alleged Nuland "Fuck The EU" clip... (the discussion of the EU and UN involvement begins around 2:50)
And for comparison's sake - Nuland last month delivering a statement on the situation in Ukraine...
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In a clip posted on YouTube, voices resembling those of Victoria Nuland, a US assistant secretary of state, and Geoffrey Pyatt, ambassador to Ukraine, are heard talking by telephone about how to resolve the stand-off in Kiev after two months of anti-government protests.
In apparent frustration with the EU – which has failed to join the US in threatening sanctions against Ukraine’s leaders if they violently crush the protests – the voice resembling Ms Nuland at one point exclaims “F**k the EU”.
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The two voices suggest Arseny Yatseniuk, the opposition leader and a former foreign minister, should be in a new government in Kiev. But Vitali Klitschko, a former heavyweight boxer and identified as “top dog” among opposition leaders, is also described as inexperienced and needing to “do his political homework”.
The voice resembling Ms Nuland refers to the two men as “Yats” and “Klitsch”.
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It could also bolster a propaganda campaign by the governments of Ukraine and Russia alleging that the protests that erupted against Ukraine’s President Viktor Yanukovich last November are being funded and orchestrated by the US.
As we warned previously, after the Olympics, Ukraine becomes a very hot spot indeed...
The Western powers represented by the EU and the US have nothing to stand on to protect Ukraine and can only offer lip-service at best. So once again, it appears that Ukraine is doomed and the best one can hope for there, is that Russia will allow the West to leave. The countdown goes forward and the political and economic crisis is indicative of what we see with the first shot across the bow in the rising trend of the Cycle of War.
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Right.
Good thing that US and EU sorted out Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya, Egypt and Jemen, and made Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE beacons of democracy and human rights champions.
The curvature of the bananas and chocolate and beer nomenclature are under absolutely uniform control, no?
Fuck DC. The "whore of Babylon."
Ok, fuck EU also.
Read Larkin Rose, Rothbard, Hazlitt and RPaul. Tell everyone you know, like you are preaching the gospel: there is another way-we don't need to be dominated by these scumbags in order to live.
So the U.S. is meddling as usual. Are all of you going to wave your flag colored bald eagles and scream when some of our spies and/or "diplomats" are killed? We have no business in the Ukraine. If something bad happens, tough titty!
Why "Klitsch" and not "Klits"?
Oh, right....nevermind.
How about a Feb delivery on Comex from a Cayman Island account controlled by the Kremlin? That would be niiice tit for tat.
Feb delivery failure bitchez!!!!
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<= Leaker of this tape is a hero
<= Leaker of this tape is a traitor
I assumed that this was captured by a foreign intelligence service.
Does it make sense that someone from State is recording Nuland's calls?
NSA records everything.
It would be the supreme irony if the Russians intercepted the call. The NSA implements a truly enormous multi billion dollar totally invasive global monitoring system.. and can't pick up anything useful?
The Russians do what? Whatever it is it would appear to be more effective.
Seems more likely to be disgruntled NSA to me.
actually... the world would be a much better place if these people actually got fucked once in a while.
Impracticable - they're TBTF - too big to fuck.
WTF! As Reagan said, gummint ain't the solution it's the problem. Is there no end to the tyranny and corruption spewed by the arrogant, narcissistic, lying, illegal alien muslim turd and his puppet nazi/fascist minions????????? Ctrl-Alt-Delete.
Is there no end to the tyranny and corruption spewed..............
In a word, NO
Where 2 fight a 3rd wins.
One Orville Redenbacher please.
Important for people everywhere that love democracy......LOL . this as she works behind the scenes to be sure democracy doesn't happen. Beautiful stuff.
"Fuck the EU", many Europeans think that too.
Cool how they abbreviated Honey.
Even if this wasn't real, you already have a former presidential candidate telling the Ukrainian "protesters" that the USA is behind them. And it was widely published in western media. You know, that John McCain dude. So what the fuck, do you want the US president to come out and say "Fuck EU, fuck Russia, Ukraine is ours" to believe it?
I'm sure the US has the best interests of "da Merican people" at heart, just like they did in Iran, Vietnam, and Eye-Rack.
You bet your slow motion flying eagle and slow motion flapping in the breeze US flag they do!
My guess is this is another move by Russia. Taking a lesson from Wikileaks and Snowden, they took the results of their espionage public to drive another wedge between the U.S. and the EU. What better way to undermine the U.S. position in Europe than to have Assistant U.S. Secretary of State on tape saying "fuck the EU" . Well-played by Putin.
very. "Now everyone knows that we know that you know that we know that you know."
To hear the private conversations of our politicians from both sides will be quite entertaining. Maybe, at last, truth will come out.
Video Brought to you by FSB (aka KGB, aka NKVD, aka ChK)
It's their right too to protect freedom and fight terrorism.
"No – I said Good luck to the E.U."
This cold war is not so cold any more: China and Russia are the key
Rob Kirby: The Economy is Not in Recovery but Financial War
Rob Kirby has a very interesting take on the recent emerging market currency crisis and Gold market developments. Is it the part of the ongoing Financial War? These attacks can be actually aimed at the ability of the rising powers to challenge the US Dollar reserve status and their ability to continue accumulate Gold.http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/rob-kirby-economy-is-not-in-recovery...
What a fucking surprise. No, really....
It's too bad that a majority of Sheople Nation fail to see how far the US has fallen in regards to international influence. The sphere of influence this country has is dramatically shrinking due to the horrible people in Washington. American exceptionalism my ass. How embarassing.
Speaking of Sheeple... why do you act as if this is all real?
You could be right that it's fake. However perception is reality with international influence. Given the trail of destruction we've left in Afghanistan & Iraq, I usually just assume the worst. I also suggested a couple months ago that the instability in Ukraine has been fueled by the CIA & Feds as retaliation for Snowden's asylum. That looks very possible now.
God, if we could only get recordings like this of US politicians throwing the country under the bus. I imagine just the calls to the supreme court regarding Obamacare would be enough to get us 50% of the way to full on revolution.
The NSA has them all.
Even the khalidi tape?
and therefore, so do the Brits and Israelis.
Seems to me we are already at 50% of the way. You must mean the second 50% otherwise figured as "the rest of the way".
As the powers that be continue to set the US up to be the bad guy in the next war.
More theater ... nothing more.
Smalll coincidence but wasnt that a Seinfeld episode?
We got our dirty little fingers in everybody's pie. [/dirty laundry]
WAIT, it's not just marketz that haz tha maniperlation?!
Great find Xibalba.
CFR again pops up (in her Bio).
Did she say trying times for people who care about democracy? LOL
CFR in her case, I think, means "Cunt For rent".
EU supported the community organizer, even gave him a Noble prize.
LOL
Nuland reflects the Washington DC elites' attitude toward the entire world.
But the sign in front of her says she is "Honorable". Fuck Nuland.
Thought the same thing. Anytime you have to print a tag to say you're honorable - means, obviously, you are not. Besides, I thought that the whole concept of these united states was to get rid of the notions of an elite nobility. Honorable my ass; just Whore-able.
HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW? bho
state dept ..... idiots in charge..... just ask the amb to benghazi
this Nudelman twat has no front line covert experience and is a dildo riding desk jockey and should be in prison for her involvement in benghazi
why do these people change their names
soros
kerry
nuland
proud of thier heritage i guess......
Just ax the next prez ......
It gets better and they are getting ready to pull the same shit on Belarus next. Not only that the excuse is priceless.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/370358/obamacare-security-nightmar...
The latest? U.S. intelligence agencies notified the Department of Health and Human Services last week that the HealthCare.gov infrastructure could be infected with malicious code.
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Who’s responsible? Washington Free Beacon national-security reporter Bill Gertz writes that U.S. officials have “warned that programmers in Belarus, a former Soviet republic closely allied with Russia, were suspected” of possible sabotage. A government tech bureaucrat in the Belarusian regime bragged last summer on Russian radio that HHS is “one of our clients” and that “we are helping Obama complete his insurance reform.”
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Then the Michelle Malkin muppet goes on to demonize Belarus like a good useful idiot she is.
So let's take a closer look at CGI but first a little reminder from one Edward Snowden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%29
PRISM is a clandestine mass electronic surveillance data mining program known to have been operated by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) since 2007
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It goes back a little further than 2007....
And now back to CGI who programmed the healtcare.gov website. Ever wonder why they got a no bid contract and why the DHHS would choose a contractor outside the US who is not constrained by Constitutional limits on data collection.
Trip down the memory hole back to 2005
http://www.triple-tree.com/transactions/transaction_archive/silver-oak-s...
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Silver Oak Solutions has successfully analyzed over $150 billion in spending and sourced $10 billion in spending delivering $2 billion in annual, cash savings (~ 20%). Through the development of its own proprietary Spend Management offerings called PRISM®
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Yes it is that PRISM....
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TripleTree led a strategic evaluation process that ultimately led to a “game-changing” industry move combining the strength of Silver Oak Solutions’ PRISM® spend analysis, strategic sourcing and compliance Spend Management expertise with CGI Group’s global footprint and outsourcing excellence. CGI Group, Inc. (NYSE:GIB) is the largest independent information technology and business process services firm in North America with approximately 25,000 professionals and an annualized revenue run rate currently at CDN $3.8 billion (U.S. $3.0 billion) at June 30, 2005. Silver Oak Solutions represents a key cornerstone for CGI Group’s global outsourcing and BPO ambitions.
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I don't think it was Belarus that inserted malicious code into the healthcare.gov database. Does anyone in their right mind think the NSA would allow Belarus or any non ally anywhere near their honeypot or allow the key contractor to associate with them at all? Malkin is just a mouthpiece blowing bullshit and misdirection as a clueless useful idiot to keep people from focusing on the NSA and blaming Belarus instead. This is the 800lb gorilla in the concerning PRISM the media won't touch. It is more than a 'national security' objective when the NSA is backdooring all internal agencies procurement systems. It is downright illegal and serves no 'national security' objectives, I can think of what it does serve, being able to front run government contracts so preferred vendors can always win them by know what the lowest bid is for example.
and also as reminder
http://www.cgi.com/en/cgi-ams-acquires-silver-oak-solutions-capitalize-u...
And also another reminder. DCH required reading.
http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html
the following may be useful to the initiate in the world of dealing with veiled and half-truth, lies, and suppression of truth when serious crimes are studied in public forums. This, sadly, includes every day news media, one of the worst offenders with respect to being a source of disinformation. Where the crime involves a conspiracy, or a conspiracy to cover up the crime, there will invariably be a disinformation campaign launched against those seeking to uncover and expose the truth and/or the conspiracy. There are specific tactics which disinfo artists tend to apply, as revealed here. Also included with this material are seven common traits of the disinfo artist which may also prove useful in identifying players and motives.
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Rule number 1
1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.
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DCH
You purloined this from the DoS exam!!
You crafty little devil.
It's also vital now, to get control of Wikipedia, and then embed wikipedia as an accelerator or other "right click" reference look up in browers and OSeseses....
You have to stand in awe of how, for example, what was virtually certainly an intentional Israeli attack on a US ship with the hope of making it look like the Egyptians did it is made to seem "controversial".
All those survivors saying the planes were unmarked {the better to blame Egypt later} - why that's controversial! Some guy said that a Jewish guy cried when seeing the Star of David, as reported in the wholly trustworthy Chi Tribune! See - it's not clear what happened! It's controversial! Plus, hint hint, it's kind of anti-Semitic to suggest Israel would ever do anything morally questionable anyway...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-liberty_tuesoct02,0,3...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Of course, while that article is used to dispute that the planes were unmarked, it sure leaves out some other information, e.g.
Their anger has been stoked by the declassification of government documents and the recollections of former military personnel, including some quoted in this article for the first time, which strengthen doubts about the U.S. National Security Agency's position that it never intercepted the communications of the attacking Israeli pilots -- communications, according to those who remember seeing them, that showed the Israelis knew they were attacking an American naval vessel.
Isn't selective sourcing wonderful!
If you believe a modern military can attack a naval vessel for over two hours and not know it wasn't an American versus Egyptian vessel, I suppose you'd believe just about anything.
Wikipedia's entry is an absolutely masterful exercise in bolstering negative evidence to overwhelm what a fair assessment of all the best evidence would tell you.
You left out the parts with respect to the eyewitness accounts of both U.S. sailors who were helpless and the Israeli pilots who were told what would happen to them if they disobeyed the standing order to bomb "it".
And this doesn't even get into the dozens of U.S. military officers w/ names who gave their account of what took place along with the "green light" given by McNamara and Johnson.
Wonder why Wikpedia won't link with youtube to provide context to the U.S.S. Liberty incident along with what happened with 9/11?
Thanks, I send that out about every 6 months to people.
It is a MUST for everyone who listens/reads anything.
Great stuff as usual DCH. (Always great informative posts) The kind of post that makes ZH what it is.
Keep up the good work. You/we are having an effect even if we can't see it.
Belarus? what about that Obamacare software written there. D'oh, that story was pulled mysteriously. So sorry.
"My name Peggyyy. You give credit card number, you get gas pipeline.... 3 weeks."
And another little tidbit from Malkin.
It’s not just the federal health-care system’s problem. Former Obamacare website contractor CGI still holds dozens of contracts with other federal agencies and state governments worth billions of dollars — and wide access to health and financial data. In my state of Colorado, for example, CGI has a $78 million contract to “modernize, host and manage” the state’s financial system. Have they checked to see whether Belarus (NSA) hackers are standing by?
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And why would the NSA need to be backdooring state databases? Isn't that illegal because we sure as hell know they don't unwind PRISM capabilities depending upon the customer. It sure as fucking hell doesn't service and 'national security' interest and sure as fucking is not foreign related in any way what so ever. That is purely domestic.....
And if anyone thinks the NSA wouldn't give backdoored software to other US federal, state and local government agencies think again. They been doing this shit prior to the Patriot Act and 9/11.
Another trip down the memory hole concerning a piece of software called PROMIS.
https://web.archive.org/web/20001018124734/http://www.thestar.com/thesta...
OTTAWA - The RCMP is conducting a probe related to allegations that foreign spies used rigged software to hack into Canada's top secret intelligence files.
A Star investigation has found the probe revolves around stunning claims that computer software used by the Mounties and Canada's spy service to co-ordinate secret investigations was rigged with a ``trap door'' to allow American and Israeli agents to eavesdrop.
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While Canada already shares a wealth of intelligence information with the U.S. and Israel, there are many elements of Canadian intelligence gathering that the government wouldn't be anxious to share with allies.
That could include economic intelligence on trading partners, detailed information on the whereabouts of terrorism suspects in Canada or strategic information on the positions Canada intends to take in international relations.
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But sources close to the investigation say it revolves around Promis, a software program first developed to assist prosecutors in the United States Department of Justice. The case management software also has application for intelligence agencies keeping track of surveillance and investigation files.
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Bill and Nancy Hamilton, owners of Washington-based Inslaw Inc., the company that developed Promis, caused a sensation when they alleged the U.S. government had stolen their software and pedalled pirated versions to intelligence agencies around the world.
A former Israeli spy also alleged the software had been fitted with an electronic trap door to allow American and Israeli agents to spy on those who used the software.
DCH
brilliant find, thank you. SOS lol. curious though about the funds in CDN, is that the North American outsource?
Seen plenty of women in the EU that I'd fuck. Just say'n
That's hot. I once directly overheard a County Commisioner saying a certain female State Senator would look good with a bullet in her forehead. He was on the phone in a very public building ( in Colorado 1993-ish ), pretty sure I was the only one that heard him. Crazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BoO3_5tU8A
Hahaha ! Another conspiracy theory that is just exposed. "I don't think Klitsch should be in the govt"... Democracy is so wonderful !
HaHaHa! Funny how the U.S. Govt. wishes/forces other govts around the world to accept the opposition party into their arms while here in the good ole U.S. of A-holes, the opposition is beat down and pushed round, demonized, ridiculed, slandered, forced into hiding(spiritually anyway) and crushed in polarizing propaganda campaigns. Take the Tea Party for example.
And Occupy.
Well, clearly the U.S. government is just trying to spread freedom and economic opportunity.
/src
Two hundred years ago, Napoleon was fighting Russia, and tried to turn the Ukraine against Czar Alexander 1st. It did not turn out well for Napoleon. The US is likely to see history repeat once again...
"Two hundred years ago, Napoleon was fighting Russia, and tried to turn the Ukraine against Czar Alexander 1st."
But Napoleon had this war fought by force-conscripted Prussians from defeated lands so don`t count on the EU to do anything more than spreading the anti-Ukraine
propaganda, they are not willing soldiers in this war.
Sounds like a bunch of shithead high school kids doing Model U.N.
"Jayvee," as Obama would say.
If true: how does it feel now, America, that someone is wiretapping you? Probably you will shout now "no fair, we are the only ones allowed to wiretap". Sounds like someone thought "fuck America".
Fuck 'em all
+ 1
Sounds like Metallica...oh wait, that was 'Kill 'em all'
yeah Metallica .... american music .... yeah ..
'tis Metallica...
fuck 'em all and fucking no regrets!
If this little gem of a snatched voice communication within the DOS doesn't prove unequivocally as to how bad morale is within the IC?... Guess you can draw your own conclusions, but I think it's safe to say Ed Snowden (isn't alone) and is getting alot of support from both active and ex-NSA personnel.
Washington D.C. better be profoundly worried at what it's people on the inside might be planning to do to them while in power before they decide to launch the next war!
IC = Intelligence Community?
I know what you're thinking with that...
And "yes" it actually is. When you drive past the CIA in Virginia you will see a sign about quarter mile from the entrance that says inappropriately enough
"The George H. Walker Bush Center for Intelligence"!!!
How do they keep doing it to themselves?!!! And more importantly why do the American people keep allowing it to be done to them???!!!!
Big mojo propaganda. The BIG lie. Call it necessary illusion. The hat trick is breaking its spell. A daunting (but achievable) task. Maybe.
It came to me about 20 years ago that the US public is like a mafia wife: they don't want to know as long as the goodies keep coming.
+1
Hard to disagree with that...
But a wake-up call is knocking at the door... karmic blowback.
Perfect, Perfect analogy Bastiat.
"The American way of life is non-negotiable". --Dick Cheney
the IC had better evict bath house before he blunders into a real war, not a one-sided deal consisting of droning weddings.
the guy is out of control.
this is potentially very very dangerous and could go south quick!
once again, unto the brink we go...
(Reuters) - A senior Kremlin aide accused the United States on Thursday of arming Ukrainian "rebels" and, urging the Kiev government to put down what he called an attempted coup, warned Russia could intervene to maintain the security of its ex-Soviet neighbor.
Sergei Glazyev, an adviser to President Vladimir Putin with responsibility for relations with Ukraine, told a newspaper that U.S. "interference" breached the 1994 treaty under which Washington and Moscow jointly guaranteed Ukraine's security and sovereignty after Kiev gave up its Soviet-era nuclear arsenal.
His characteristically confrontational comments, on the eve of an expected meeting between Putin and Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich at the opening of the Sochi Winter Olympics, could add to tensions with Washington, and within Ukraine.
Asked by Kommersant-Ukraine daily whether Russia might "actively intervene" if the country's crisis deepened, Glazyev recalled the Budapest Memorandum of 1994: "Under the document, Russia and the USA are guarantors of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine and ... are obliged to intervene when conflict situations of this nature arise.
"And what the Americans are getting up to now, unilaterally and crudely interfering in Ukraine's internal affairs, is a clear breach of that treaty. The agreement is for collective guarantees and collective action."
He did not specify what action Russia might take...
Syria, I think was a close call, we were maybe with in a few hours of a direct confrontation with Russia but, thankfully both sides were open to a compromise. this however is entirely different, this is right on the front door and with the added pressure and threat of the "NATO missile defense shield" looming over everything else...well, it's very easy to see how this whole thing could go sideways frighteningly fast.
the Ukraine is the worst possible country to have instability in right now and worse still is the fact that Moscow and DC seem to willing to take off the gloves in the fight for it's future.
keep a weather eye on this situation and hedge accordingly.
Being geo-politically strategically positioned sucks. Go ask Poland and go ask the former Yugoslavia.
In the 1990's Russia couldn't directly support Serbia. The Ukraine is a different story. Russia will not let the US expand NATO in the Ukraine.
This is directly in Russia's backyard. Long historical relationship between the two countries. While NATO could meddle in Yugoslavia's/Serbia's affairs unhindered, this time it is different. Europe does not need another bloody conflict in the shape of Balkanization of Ukraine.
But is it good for the IMF?
Haha, Russia will never allow the US to gain hegemony in Ukraine.
I see The Red Army rolling soon, it would make a great distraction from those "olympix."
This is all part of an orchestrated imperialstic agenda by the Western Politicians who worship the devil to split away Ukraine from Russia and make it a nato vessel state, so the devil worshipping western elite would be one step closer to their NWO order agenda and the destruction of Russia as nation.. and the destruction of the orthodox religion and culture.
hon victoria neuland
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new land
more lands
honorable A
this neuland thing this creature.
is she jewish?
Nuland is the daughter of Yale bioethics and medicine professor Sherwin B. Nuland, the family's original surname being Nudelman. She graduated from Choate Rosemary Hall in 1979 and has a B.A. from Brown University. Nuland is married to historian Robert Kagan, with whom she has two children. Nuland speaks Russian, French, and some Chinese
Speaks some Chinese - that explains it. She was just chastising her peer and said fuck you with a Chinese dialect - which goes something like "fucky yoo"
isn't that one of the Tribal Names?
sounds khazar to me...
Striking (gulp) isn't she!
One would almost swear she's a descendent or in the all-in-family "somewhere perhaps" of a DOS leader past... Dame 'Albright' comes to mind!
Lots of nepotism in our Gubbermint.
She has Hilliary's insane eyes.
Sounds like a song in there ----- hillary eyes, like betty davis eyes only scary as shit
EU confirm authentity of their leak
http://euobserver.com/foreign/123036
Also, Russian says that have evidence of US involment in violence.
I say I have 8,000 tons of gold...
who believes anything any of these sociopathic fucks have to say?
AND WHO in the Hell do you think is behind the "financial" and "economic" "crisis" of Argentina? Venezuela? Who is behind each, one and all dirty sh...t that happens almost everywhere in the World?
It's been a while, now, people. Down here we've been knowing that without needing any leak.
What, you're telling us Argentina and Venezuela can't stuff things up themselves? That they need help? How condescending.
We deeply, truly wanted to be left by ourselves.
Problem is the Big Nuclear Hyper Super Ultra Democratic World Police, Armored Mercenary Arm of TPTB, doesn't live us alone, not every one of us in the whole fu...ing World.
"Uncle Sam wants you" (Meaning every one of us, everyone of you included). And many don't even have a clue who "Uncle Sam" really is.
Tell my "paisani" in Italy about the beautiful Penisola becoming over the years a huge US Military Base.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases
The Stonecutters.
Obviously.
Fuck the EU? A Barosso-gasm?
Fuck the US and its meddling in Ukraine.
Good to see that the Russians have put Snowden to work.
(sarc.)
Now you guys understand the undercurrents of apparent convergent Western interests in its opposition to Putin.
Whereas the truth works according to the convoluted failed paradigm : when thieves fall out... EU, USA, Putin's Russia and... the Ukraine... like Syria, ... the dividing frontier between East and West.
But this divide in NOT ideological, its ECONOMICAL.
We saw Kerry about face France on Syria; and piss off Saud as well as Israel. Now facing a huge about turn in Pak/Afghan...trying to save the floundering ship and appearing---as the only voice-- who controls the West.
A NWO order it intiated.
What was written in the fine print THEN, in 1991, was : We are all equal as Oligarchs but the US stays PRINCEPS.
Consequence of the Bush OLigarchy's NWO and Davos model : Welcome all Oligarchs of the world, just control your STATE apparatus, make it subservient to our Oligarchy and WE WILL ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE. Its win-win for all of us! We saw how GWB incarnated that in Peking Olympics but Obammy won't follow suit in Sochi...WHy? THe World has changed since 2008 debacle.
Putin and cohorts of China and BRIC will now challenge more and more THAT fine print dictat of GWB NWO which is stumbling and bumbling in debt tsunami. The RESERVE is now a leaking boat of fiat hegemony.
Meanwhile the US Pax Americana cabal bitches against the EU, just like it bitched against De Gaulle during the Cold War.
Consequences ?
...Wait n see!
This game is never over; its just a repeat of past games.
Very good analysis. I'll be looking for your posts. Obviously you pay attention.
I honestly couldn't follow it.
"Fuck the EU".
So much love it hurts. Want Vaseline with that?
I hope this is not true... I hope it is just some made up BullS__t .
this is bad news for many here....
Was it supposed to be some kind of a secret that the US is behind the unrest in Ukraine?
Yes; it's "supposed to be". You're supposed to be distracted with your toys and not thinking about geo-political reality.
Amateur hour in Foggy Bottom.
WoW! Nurse Kratchet in the flesh eating version, the off spring of Hillary and Lillith. Fuck the EU indeed. Has anyone notice that the State Department is being staffed by strong manly women and gay men? It's true, and they have very little in common with the American People. Is it any wonder that America foreign policy is in ruins? www.electanewcongress.com
you are 100% right..
jeez, this listening in on other people's conversations is a bitch.
This has clearly been leaked by the NSA. Looks like a bunch of patriot moles have been missed.
How does one get back at a nuclear armed power that stopped your end-run around their gas monopoly? Unrest in a neighboring country that the power’s pipelines run through and by sabotaging the elite-mpics being staged by that power is how.
I guess Russia should have gone along with and supported the Western elites and banksters in Syria.
"So dark, it's transparent."
Guess again. Russia is not good at "going along". And they're not very good at surrendering either. Have Caution.
Yea, just ask the germans about Stalingrad
the u.s. is like that nosy neighbor always picking through everyone's shit. we're bound to step in a pile eventually.
Hard to believe that America now has diplomats that are dumber than the general public they purport to represent.
These "progs" are rank amatuers in every respect.
No matter how stupid you think the average American is...
understand that half of them are dumber than that.
George Carlin
Sorry, I don't understand the point of this article. Why does it matter?
"The Western powers represented by the EU and the US have nothing to stand on to protect Ukraine" - We could attack Russia, couldn't we? I thought its economy is a shambles.
"The military events of both World Wars have proved anew that the capitalistic countries are paramount also in armaments production... Where capitalistic entrepreneurship is allowed to function freely, the fighting forces will always be so well equipped that the biggest armies of the backward peoples will be no match for them. There has even been great exaggeration of the danger of making the formulas for manufacturing “secret” weapons universally known. If war comes again, the searching mind of the capitalistic world will always have a head start on the peoples who merely copy and imitate clumsily." - Ludwig von Mises, Human Action
The PNAC people are insane -- GHW Bush called them "the crazies in the basement" and Dubya invited them upstairs.
I remember an interview with a senior Pakistani goverment official. He said one of the Bush boys came to him with instructions regarding controlling a porous border and outlying districts. The Pak guy said: you don't understand there are millenia of history behind these allegiances And the neo-clown said: "history starts today." Never forgot that: the truly insane are immune from feedback from their environment. The PNAC neocons are insane and they are still in power.
So you're saying the US military should be afraid of Pakistan?
"GHW Bush...senior Pakistani goverment official"
It's basically beast mode thug vs. baby thug.
You missed the point.
But failing; on the downside of the curve. And they have resistance within the machine; in the US. they're just winding down.
It seems so.
Just how does one impose "sanctions" on Ukrainian leaders if they resort to violence without imposing sanctions on the entire country? Freeze their Bank of America savings account?
Professional Grade Leadership. American Exceptionalism. ;)
Well Obama says that "there is not a smidgen of truth" to that. FOX News is behind it.
And Bush too no doubt. LOL
Knew this was coming, and the irony is predictably lost on the Government apparatchiks...
NY Times headline:
U.S. Cries Foul as a Phone Intercept Goes PublicThe NY Times is such a bitch boy for the Washington Mob it's pathetic. Strike a blow for freedom and sanity and cancel your subscription.
This is just like television.
Fuck Canada! Ya I know, I'm a god damn traitor. In fact, fuck the world!
Editr: Sorry, the Olympic gold medal in hockey, Tim Horton's shills are driviong me crazy.
The stark contrast in her tone between the two videos is just mind blowing...little miss justice twinkle toes is nothing but a malignant c**t.
It's called covert operations. It has been going on since the dawn of man. Destablize your adversary. Proboblem is, the US isn't as good at it as it used to be. The reason is because the USA's intelligence agencies became politicized, and this has seriously erroded it's success in operations. This administration especially can not seem to do ANYTHING right on this front, it is being run by amatuers. And finally, the best people for the job, aren't getting the job. This is perhaps where EEO and Affirmative Action policies are doing the most damage.
Once moar, Bath House Barry's "administration" shows its utter incompetence and perfidy.
Apparently, there are no moar professionals at State, just AA hires and political fellow-travelers.
A friend in the know recently told me 40% of the employees there were AA hires with no experience. It shows, doesn't it? A group comprising about 12% of the US population accounts for 40% of the employee base.
Also, related, last night, Bath House illegally signed an order allowing terrorist associates (supposedly "reformed") to immigrate to the US. European immigrants (Caucasians) are at the back of the bus. Bath House is leaving no stone unturned to vastly increase what is becoming a flood of muslim immigrants with little or no BG checks.
Wonderful. I suppose the next "stimulus program" will "stimulate" mosk-building.