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LinkedIn Is Getting Twittered: Here's Why

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Yesterday it was Twitter, today it is LinkedIn. Moments ago, the professional social network reported EPS that just barely beat at $0.39 vs expectations of $0.38, while revenue printed at $447.2 MM vs $437.6 MM expected. However, it is this excerpt from the LNKD release that is causing the stock to be TWTRed 10% after hours.

LinkedIn is providing guidance for the first quarter and full year of 2014:

  • Q1 2014 Guidance: Revenue is expected to range between $455 million and $460 million. Adjusted EBITDA is expected to range between $106 million and $108 million. The company expects depreciation and amortization to be approximately $48 million, and stock-based compensation to be approximately $68 million.
  • Full Year 2014 Guidance: Revenue is expected to range between $2.02 billion and $2.05 billion. Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be approximately $490 million. The company expects depreciation and amortization to be approximately $225 million, and stock-based compensation to be approximately $325 million.

And since the street was looking for $470 million for Q1 revenue, and $2.17 billion for full year, the stock is currently getting monkeyhammered.

Of course, with LTM PE before earnings in the four-digit range before earnings, this 10% drop means the company is back to being a blue-light special bargain... somewhere in the ultra high triple digit PE range.

 

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Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:14 | 4409085 Agstacker
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Beating EPS by a penny seems to be more and more common...

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:16 | 4409097 Occident Mortal
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Are you suggesting that analysts are getting cleverer?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:20 | 4409115 NoDebt
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No revenues was the hallmark of the original Dot Com bubble, and it is again, apparently.  

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:27 | 4409130 aVileRat
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Bingo.

As predicted the readthru was pretty easy tracking. Social media attachment and market click saturation is going to be the focus vs. eyeballs going forward. $/capex is also starting to get worrying.

Pity on the natural gas tape, oh well.

 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:29 | 4409155 ArkansasAngie
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I especially liked ... "stock-based compensation to be approximately $325 million."

My God ... these guys think they walk on water.

 


Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:28 | 4409158 max2205
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Expect a few supernovas soon with down 50 - 70% being the norm

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:40 | 4409198 BLOTTO
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The masses are linkedin - but cluedout...

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:11 | 4409847 stant
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dont know why but it reminded me of alice cooper. for lack of a song title i picked the first one on yt. billion dollar babies

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:30 | 4409162 Divided States ...
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Most overvalued of the big social media sites.

1)TWTR - 1.25bn revs and a market cap of 28.4bn

2)YELP - 350mn revs and a market cap of 6.3bn (dont even make money)

3)LNKD - 2.1bn revs and a market cap of 26.7bn

 

 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:21 | 4409120 i_call_you_my_base
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Better models I presume.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:33 | 4409183 Caveman93
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Pretty soon, they will allow them to beat EPS by fractions of pennies to help out the situation.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:14 | 4409088 Deathrips
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Link the twits to a lie detector...there needs to be some accountability!

 

Fuck all these hologram want to be "public servants", supposedly looking out for the people.

 

RIPS

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:16 | 4409090 quintago
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LinkedIn is the best short possible in the face of a market meltdown. Employment drops - earnings will get nailed as all the headhunter revenues dry up. and PE compression will slam it.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:19 | 4409107 youngman
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I think it will become the Black Market HQ....all those unemployed will work for cash.....

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:15 | 4409091 slotmouth
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Momo money momo problems.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:17 | 4409100 walküre
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that stock is still 90% overvalued and should get GRPawned

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 08:56 | 4411080 The Mist
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To be fair I've thought about shorting Twitter basically since a week after the IPO, but I never actually made the deal, because I figured QE would probably keep pumping up worthless stock anyway.

Would this decline be caused by the incoming taper?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:20 | 4409112 Rising Sun
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social media is over valued

 

like apple selling premium priced hardware, social media is going to take a fucking beating too

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:24 | 4409123 Caveman93
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Linked In, where the newly unemployed can ask their formerly and possibly employed within their network of connections if they know of any jobs and be ignored all day long. You can however always upgrade to premium and pay to be ignored by employers who ignore your repeated applications to jobs which don't actually even exist. ;)

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:26 | 4409137 Stoploss
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BINGO.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:32 | 4409170 max2205
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Lkdn is a great place to be blackballed without even knowing it....goes to. $10 next year

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:45 | 4409209 Winston Churchill
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I signed onto Linkedin under  my avatar Winston Churchill, as an IT engineer.

Amazing how many people in south Florida know me , from the the emails

I get claiming some business relationship.

Ponzinomics 101.

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Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:16 | 4409609 Dave Thomas
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That should scare the shit out of you. I did the same thing, whereas I didn't tell Linked in who I was. Then all of a sudden people with whom I worked started popping up in my suggested circles for some reason. Without asking it jumped into my email client's address book and started leafing through my contacts so it could make "Suggestions" to whom I could link to. Needless to say I chopped the fucking thing.

 

This was pre IPO so maybe their policies have changed, but any Web 2.0 "Monitize the Masses" whore will employ such tactics to get to know as much about you as possible. 

Keep the tinfoil tight friends.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:47 | 4410001 MeelionDollerBogus
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holy, how unsecure is your email?
Mine at least needs a password & it's downloaded into Thunderbird on a secure drive.
And the address book sits in the same secure drive though if I felt like it, it could be put somewhere else & just pretend to be there.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:17 | 4409613 FredFlintstone
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Your name sounds familiar, did we work or go to school together?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:09 | 4409598 swmnguy
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As a self-employed professional, LinkedIn helps me know which of my competitors isn't getting any work. That's when I see a stream of "Joe Blow updated his LinkedIn page!" announcements, and see everyone endorsing each other for the things they supposedly do.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:25 | 4409133 alien-IQ
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All social media stocks should be traded on pink sheets...and priced accordingly. Without exception.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:24 | 4409135 HaroldWang
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I guess the only place to put your social dollars to work are rock solid fundamental types like YELP up 20% today. 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:28 | 4409147 game theory
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At $90k/year on AVERAGE in stock compensation for employees that are already richly paid, buyers of this stock simply have money they don't want back.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:29 | 4409154 DavrosoftheDaleks
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With Facebook, Twitter and Linkedin, do we actually need the NSA?  The CIA can just sit back and do google searches all day long on people and know everything.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:31 | 4409176 Caveman93
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Naw, if that were true I would have been swampped with job offers to come work for the NSA with my extensive background in Information Systems Security already. 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:29 | 4409159 Smegley Wanxalot
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LinkedIn = SpammedToDeath.

fuck that network bullshit

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:31 | 4409165 Caveman93
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PS:

As a added bonus in case there is any doubt, as goes the jobs in the US...so goes LinkedIn's relevance as a useful tool. 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 18:45 | 4409507 lotsoffun
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no! no!  i can't tell you how many indians with or without h1b visas love me!  it's a great way to give away american jobs.  they all want to be my friend, take my friends jobs, and then mine.  linked in is great.  the jobs are gone.  thank you gandhi.  peace and love.

 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:32 | 4409168 buzzsaw99
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...stock-based compensation to be approximately $68 million.

par for the course. one can never have too much stock-based compensation. /s

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:38 | 4409188 Spungo
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"I think it will become the Black Market HQ....all those unemployed will work for cash....."

Craigslist?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:43 | 4409211 Make_Mine_A_Double
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Have you noticed just before these earnings calls you start getting pinged numerous times by LKD algo from people you haven't heard from in years 'endorsing' you for whatever? I was wondering why I was getting all this shit from them.

So now I see the pattern.

 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 17:59 | 4409279 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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I keep seeing EBITDA mentioned these days.  Hadn't really heard the term since 2001 or so.  Did we all decide that it was a valid metric again or something?

 

We really do deserve whats coming.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 18:06 | 4409317 kchrisc
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Off topic: Does anyone believe that Google is really bringing in all of the revenue that they say they are?

Would I be crazy to suggest that there is some US intelligence "community" funny money business going on?! $60 bil. and $13 bil. revenue and profit respectively for 2013. That's a lot of those shitty little ads and related clicks.

I just don't see it.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 18:11 | 4409341 22winmag
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I remember when Google, FaceBook, Twitter, and Linked-in were just silly notions. To attach billion dollar valuations is just laughable.

 

I also remember all the smart investors and smart executives who refused to buy into (or leave solid positions to work in) the dot com bubble.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:41 | 4409728 walküre
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Good call. The ad business is supposedly the only business that keeps growing leaps and bounds when demand and sales for the actual products keep declining.

Maybe the marketers have really found their client's nerv and offer them good value for the money but like you said, I don't see it.

Would like to see exactly how those multi billion Dollar earnings are being generated. See, the problem with their "success" is that it just doesn't reflect anywhere in the real world and people like you and me are starting to wonder and asking questions. Is it all just bullshit? I mean we are used to being lied to and served bullshit on a daily basis, so it wouldn't be too far fetched.

Propaganda is a very powerful tool and it can keep the masses at bay for a long time. But when the masses go hungry and they're being told everything is hunky dory, then the masses get restless.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:43 | 4409979 MeelionDollerBogus
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At the last company I worked for they had a built-in search engine for internal documents only, designed by Google. They don't just do ads.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 23:58 | 4410592 kchrisc
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Not saying that there is anything funny going on, but my BS-dar is going off.

For comparison, Micro$oft had $78 bil. in revenue in fiscal 2013.

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 01:14 | 4410738 MeelionDollerBogus
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True, this 1000+ share price makes me think GOOG = BTC

nonsensetards abound.

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 09:00 | 4411086 The Mist
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Google has far more revenue streams than ads...

'Android' mean anything to you?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:20 | 4409636 hidingfromhelis
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D'ohhh!  Stupid fat finger, I meant to sell all my LNKD-Q.  

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