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State Department Confirms Authenticity Of Intercepted Ukraine Phone Call: Accuses Russia Of Dirty Tricks

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If there was any doubt whether the intercepted "Fuck the EU" phone call between Assistant Secretary of State Nuland and the US Ambassador to the Ukraine Pyatt was authentic, it can now be laid to rest: in an earlier response to questions from reporters, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki did not dispute authenticity of recording and essentially confirmed it was real "I didn’t say it was inauthentic."

However, in the tried and true fashion of assigning blame elsewhere, the world learned that it was really all Russia's fault and the released intercept was a "new low of Russian tradecraft." Psaki added that there are moments "in every diplomatic relationship" when you disagree, Psaki says. But the absolute punchline: "It’s concerning that private conversation was recorded."

Perhaps maybe the NSA can opine on the concernability of a private conversation being recorded.

Then again in a world in which only the NSA is allowed to record every single private conversation, one can easily see why the State Dept thought it was safe to discuss its state subordination strategy over what appears to have been an unencrypted landline. At least the CIA used to communicate by encrypted redlines.

Finally, while Russian "tradecraft" may have hit a new low, so did US reputation and standing abroad, however offset by the humiliation and embarrassment of US foreign policymakers which has never been higher.

 

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Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:46 | 4409742 cynicalskeptic
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e.g. It's OK if the U.S. does something.  It's NOT OK if Russia or someone else does the same thing.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:49 | 4409754 InjectTheVenom
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This shit is gettin' good !!

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:00 | 4409802 gmrpeabody
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A little popcorn, please...,

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:03 | 4409813 layman_please
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where's bieber when you need him?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:16 | 4409861 strannick
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"The F**cking Russians made me do it" -Vicky Nuland

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:24 | 4409909 sixsigma cygnus...
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Is it just my imagination or does Putin seem to be running circles around our finger-pointer in Chief?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:35 | 4409955 zaphod
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Look, I hate Obumers policies as much as the next guy, but I fail to see how someone saying Fuck the EU in a private phone call is a big deal.

I say Fuck the EU from time to time because Europeans are a bunch of socialists and keep giving the left in the US ideas. So I do support our foreign service agents taking a skeptical view on the EU, it shows that at least some people in government have somewhat of a clue.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:40 | 4409965 Againstthelie
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Can you spell IDIOT?

 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:43 | 4409977 ShrNfr
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O-b-a-m-a Also S-h-e-e-p-l-e that voted for him.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:55 | 4410020 TruthInSunshine
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Oh SNAP!!

Cult_of_Reason just got FACED!!!

There are billions of people who just came to the very basic realization that the NSA isn't the only intelligence agency with intercept powers in town.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:27 | 4410139 knukles
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(ring ring, sound of phone in Oval office)

Reggie:  It's for you Barackie.  Some guy named Vlad.  Are you seeing someone named Vlad, Brarackiecrackie, huh?
Obie:  No, you stupid shit, it's Putin.  Gimme the Goddamned phone.  And go get some clothes on.
Obie:  Hello, Vlad, how are y... (Interrupted)
Vlad:  I just called you to tell you Fuck You
Obie:  Wait?  Vlad!  Why can't we all just get alon..  (interrupted)
Vlad:  Fuck You Obie.  Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.  Making up shit ass (giggling) excuses for not coming to Sochi
Obie:  Look, Vlad, I tried my best to make it and we (interrupted)
Vlad:  Fuck you
Obie:  Vlad, we're not getting along like we shou...
Vlad:  Fuck you
Obie:  This isn't very diplomatic, Vlad and..
Vlad:  Fuck you, Obie.  You send me 10 gay athletes, I take Syria, natural gas transmission through the Middle East, Ukraine, Europe during the winter, Pakistan and India, as well as new arms and trade deals with the Saudis.  Fuck you.

  (laughing, sound of phone hanging up)

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 23:43 | 4410558 WillyGroper
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I think you ALL got it wrong.

It was those mischevious muslims again.

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 01:57 | 4410790 Crash Overide
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In Russia, phone listens to you...

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 03:16 | 4410857 SoundMoney45
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NSA, Chinese, Russians.  We know the NSA had the recording, and we think the Chinese and/or Russians might have had it.  

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 06:47 | 4410974 negative rates
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We got burned at our own game, those are going to be some expensive cheerleaders who have to ra ra ra this team back into shape. The apology is soon followed by a swift, kick in the ass.

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 03:31 | 4410870 wintermute
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Psaki always reminds me of X-files Scully.

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 16:49 | 4413054 NZ Watcher
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and her "cute" Brittany Spears voice - NOTTTTTTTTTTT

Hate these new age women - like fucking clowns !!!

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 10:20 | 4411469 11b40
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All I have to say about this is:  HaHaHaHaHaHa.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dNxK_wslqo

 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:53 | 4410021 Xibalba
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She's sweating bullets

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:01 | 4410042 Pegasus Muse
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It's clear Hitlary left the indelible Clinton mark on the State Department. 

The fish rots from the head down.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:30 | 4410150 Joseff Stalin
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 The fish rots from the ass up.

http://www.etherzone.com/body.html

CLINTON BODY COUNT

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 04:42 | 4410908 Whalley World
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Bro, balls the size of Bentleys to post that link, you could be next....

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 01:39 | 4410771 CheapBastard
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No doubt about who wears the pants in the Pyatt house.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:11 | 4410100 RaceToTheBottom
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My money is on her for carrying the Olympic flame the final leg for the Russians!!!!

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:42 | 4409970 ShrNfr
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Ah, but you do that in the capacity of a private citizen. Imagine Obama getting caught on an open mike saying "Fuck the Republican Party, I'm going to tell Reid to ..." I am sure that he says something like that in private. Getting caught at it would be a major faux pas.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:55 | 4410026 object_orient
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You missed the point like a real pro. Go watch DWTS reruns please.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:03 | 4410064 piceridu
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@zaphod, slap yourself and wake the fuck up

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 00:01 | 4410596 Loose Caboose
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No, no, no, no ....... I get to slap him.  The rest of you ..... stand in line.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:42 | 4409971 Occident Mortal
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2014, the year of de-Americanization of the world.

Moscows secret society and Beijings neopolitiks have abandoned communism and are seizing world power via sophisticated financial warfare. They have been at it since before the Russian default (which merely wiped their slate clean).

They now have all the bonds and the gold and the land and the people.

China is already the biggest economy in the world, the Yuan peg merely hides this fact.

We in the West are living an extremely precarious existence.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:56 | 4410034 john39
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hardly a nation vs nation issue.  rather, a global problem of a conspiracy to take over all governments from the inside.  Using the power of the printing press to buy up all media and the politicians.  If anything, Beinjing and Russia are opposing the NWO psychopaths.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:53 | 4410229 Joseff Stalin
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"...and Russia are opposing the NWO psychopaths....":


 

 

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Thu, 02/06/2014 - 22:32 | 4410374 Proofreder
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Aaaaah Dude !

Check your HTML

Idiot fail.

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 02:15 | 4410809 HardAssets
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Russia opposing ?  Perhaps.  China ?  Maybe . . . and maybe they are part of it and have made a deal.

I wouldnt be too anxious to pin angel wings on any of these psychopaths, however.

They're all basically predators and parasites on the rest of humanity.

 

 

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 06:01 | 4410942 Johnny Cocknballs
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You're right.  And it's all hidden in plain site.

Nuland says fuvk the EU to our very curious ambassador to Ukraine, meaning its not about the EU, but about people like herself and her husband having power.

 

The two opp leaders she mentions are like her.

 

And guess who is running ukraine's central bank and largest private bank.

 

And people are just absolutely brainwashed... they can't see what should be obvious.

 

It's heartbreaking.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:01 | 4409803 dtwn
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I'd Pasaki all over her face!

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:35 | 4409958 Wait What
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skeet! skeet! skeet! skeet!

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:53 | 4410227 Ness.
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I love redheads, don't know why, I just do.  But that woman is a fucking lying cunt and she disgraces all the beautiful red headed women around the globe.

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 00:34 | 4410642 Lore
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Look at the roots. She ain't no redhead. It's a stale dye job. She could benefit from color and wardrobe and makeup advice. Nice features, though. But the brazen duplicity tells the rest of the story: a natural born liar. Men of conscience are hors d'oeuvres.

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 00:25 | 4410652 Meat Hammer
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She's a prime candidate for an ATM.

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 12:21 | 4411866 rwe2late
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Nuland is married to  Robert Kagan, with whom she has two children.

Her HUSBAND: Robert Kagan is co-founder of the PROJECT for the New American Century...

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 16:55 | 4413063 NZ Watcher
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mine wouldn't even stand up for this thing (not a woman in my view)

Pretend voice on Britt Spears that sounds like a blunt chainsaw - fucking awful.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:03 | 4409805 FL_Conservative
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If Russia won't produce the evidence, I'm sure that the NSA can.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:17 | 4409873 Bunga Bunga
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Maybe Putin and Obama should work that out in a Sochi double toilet.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:31 | 4409945 blown income
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Would love to see Putin kick Obamas ass!!!

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 08:37 | 4411061 kralizec
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A 7 year old girl can kick Obama's ass...and it would be more satisfying.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 22:08 | 4410304 f16hoser
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Obama only uses the Womens toilet. It's a Trans-gender thing. He's been confused since childhood.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:38 | 4409963 Jim in MN
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Forced hag's false flags frag fags?

Is that close?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:51 | 4410012 TheFourthStooge-ing
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She shills by the shoe store?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 23:24 | 4410518 royal
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LOL...yeah it is.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:06 | 4409778 Millivanilli
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A senior adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin has accused the US of meddling in Ukraine, in breach of a 1994 agreement over non-intervention.

Sergei Glazyev said the US was spending $20m (£12.3m; 14.8m euros) a week on Ukrainian opposition groups, supplying "rebels" with arms among other things.

Accusing the US of ignoring the Memorandum on Security Assurances, he suggested Moscow could also intervene.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26068994

HAHAHAHAH  

Proxy WAR!  And did Congress authorize arming rebels?

 

EAT SHIT,

VLAD

PS you play checkers like a retard.  In Russia a retard is a retard.

 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:14 | 4410107 Joseff Stalin
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"...supplying "rebels" with arms among other things...."

Plywood shields and sticks?

 

http://www.infoukes.com/history/ww2/page-20.html


    Kortelisy (Ukraine), Lidice (Czechoslovakia) & Oradour-sur-Glane (France): Razed Villages

    The German war on the civilian population in Ukraine was ruthless. The entire world heard about the total destruction of the Czech village of Lidice and the killing of all the men in its population of 400 on June 10, 1942. The French village of Oradour-sur-Glane razed on June 10, 1944 is also well known.

    But the world never heard about the Ukrainian village of Kortelisy which the Germans burned to the ground on September 23, 1942 and killed all its 2,892 population of men, women and children. There were about 459 villages in Ukraine completely destroyed with all or part of their population by the German Army with 97 in Volhynia Province, 32 in Zhitomir province, 21 in Chernihiv province, 17 in Kiev province and elsewhere. There were at least 27 Ukrainian villages in which every man, woman and child was killed and the village completely destroyed by the Germans. (Ukrainska RSR u Velykyi Vitchyznianiy Viyni, vol.3, p. 150).

    At least 160 Nazi concentration camps, some holding tens of thousands of prisoners, were established in Ukraine. Many Ukrainians were also sent to Auschwitz and other death camps in Poland. The janowska (Yanivska) Camp in Lviv was especially notorious because the Commandant, SS officer Gustav Wilhaus, used to sit on his balcony and with his automatic rifle use the inmates in the yard as target practice, even shooting children. The camp also had an orchestra and played a tune titled "The Tango of Death" specially composed for it. The orchestra was executed when the Germans closed the camp during their retreat. (Wytwycky, p. 59)

    According to the official records of Germany there were 4,192,000 German war dead. If Germany itself, according to World Book Encyclopedia, lost only 2,196,000 military dead and 1,858,000 missing or a total of 4,054,000 why were Ukraine's losses so huge? There are several possible explanations. It is known that the Germans intentionally starved Ukrainian cities; that Ukrainian prisoners of war in concentration camps were starved to death; that disease was rampant and was not top be treated on Hitler's orders; and that because about 2,000,000 houses and apartments were burned at least 10,000,000 Ukrainians were left homeless in the war exposing them to freezing in the winter.

    Wilhelm Keitel gave an order to the German Army in the East: "for the killing of a single German soldier we should retaliate by the execution of 50-100 persons" (Kamenetsky, Secret Nazi Plans, p. 166). The death penalty was applied to Ukrainian hostages: up to 200 innocent Ukrainians were executed for one German attacked by guerillas. In spite of this a total of 460,000 German soldiers and officers were killed by partisans in Ukraine during the War.

    Major-General Eberhardt, the German Commandant of Kiev, on November 2, 1941 announced that: "Cases of arson and sabotage are becoming more frequent in Kiev and oblige me to take firm action. For this reason 300 Kiev citizens have been shot today." This seemed to do no good because Eberhardt on November 29, 1941 again announced: "400 men have been executed in the city [of Kiev]. This should serve as a warning to the population."

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 04:52 | 4410912 Terp
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bullshit

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 06:15 | 4410948 Johnny Cocknballs
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Complete and utter bullshit.  Artless.

Fake history written by an inept clown who probably studied literature or sociology as an undergrad.

 

Inelegant in concept and execution, Sir.

 

Boooooo, Sir!

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 09:25 | 4411147 Random
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Bullshit. Thanks for playing though.

P.S.: you are pointing fingers at Germany (and their allies) 70 years after the war but you say nothing about Stalin (however you used the name as a handle, but misspelled it). Fuck you and your dumb ass horse you rode on!

 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:02 | 4409800 walküre
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It's been that way since 1913 at least. Why does the Dollar hold reserve currency status? Why are American banks the biggest beneficiaries of "climate change" legislations and carbon "trading" but America has not ratified any protocols?

The world has been getting fucked in the ass by America and the Dollar. The world never liked it but now that America is no longer able to offer anything in return, the world will abandon America. Depends on which pawns are in place and if America still holds all the trump cards.

Turkey is an important ally. If America loses Turkey, they lose control over oil and gas supplies. Mark my words.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:13 | 4409851 Kassandra
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Depends..yeah, that's it. Get your Depends ready..

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:19 | 4410120 Joseff Stalin
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http://www.day.kiev.ua/en/article/economy/who-has-been-destroying-ukrain...

 

 

Who has been destroying Ukrainian villages?


Pavlo Vakuliuk 2 December, 2010 - 00:00

 
MY VILLAGE / Photo by Oleh NYCH

There is a village by the name of Medvyn in Bohuslav raion, Kyiv oblast. It was there that, during Russian civil war, 12,000 residents decided to defend the village, barring entry to the White Guard and Red forces. In August, 1920, the Bolsheviks decided to do away with the rebels. They dispatched a division of Budyonny’s army. The local residents lacked weapons and ammunition, and many were armed with pitchforks and scythes. They took up position in the trenches dug around the village and held the Reds back for almost two weeks.

On August 27, 1920, several Red cavalry regiments advanced on the villages from all sides. Entering homes at the end of the village, they set fire to the buildings. Several hours later the village was ablaze. The battle lasted until late in the evening. A total of 600 homes with outbuildings were razed to the ground.

On August 29, fully in control of the village, the Reds robbed the surviving buildings, raped the girls and young women. On August 30, they herded the residents to the center of Medvyn, picked 80 young men from the crowd and cut them down with sabers. Only one survived, wounded and covered with dead bodies. (Roman Koval, Medvyn in the Flames of History, Prosvita Publ., Kyiv, 2000.)

After dekulakization, the Holodomor, and mass repressions some 6,000 residents remained.

Over 300 Ukrainian freedom fighters died at Melnyky, in the vicinity of the famous Kholodny Yar Forest in Cherkasy oblast. The Bolsheviks burned hundreds of village homes. Similar atrocities took place all over Ukraine as the first wave of destruction of Ukrainian villages swept through the country. The second wave came in 1929, with the start of the dekulakization campaign aimed at the annihilation of the most hard-working, educated, and cultured peasants. Stalin considered that well-to-do peasants, independent of local party functionaries, were the worst enemies of Soviet power, so they had to be destroyed as a class. Kulaks and their families were exiled to Russia’s deadly north to be welcomed by polar bears and watch the northern lights. They were made to settle in localities where man was practically unable to survive, but that was the government’s plan.

EXPLOITER CLASS

The sage leader Stalin echoed Lenin referring to well-to-do peasants as the cruelest and most radical exploiters, vampires, bloodsuckers, spiders, and criminals. The destruction of kulaks as a class and forceful collectivization marked the beginning of a crisis in agriculture and food supplies. In fact, this crisis would last until the USSR’s final collapse.

The third wave of destruction and depopulation of Ukrainian villages was caused by forceful collectivization and the Holodomor man-made famine of 1932-33. Demographers and historians estimate its death toll at between 7.5 and 10 million. Villagers started dying of hunger in the early spring of 1932, but the full-scale famine began in 1933. All who could fled to cities, but no one could leave Ukraine as the rural residents were forbidden to buy rail tickets, nor could they be employed as urban factory workers because they had no passports.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 22:21 | 4410323 Sashko89
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Nado bilo belih vpustit I protiv krasnih srazhatza za batushku zarya! Ili vi za mahno bili?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:54 | 4410226 RafterManFMJ
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Westphalian sovereignty is for SUCKERS! Oblamo and the NeoCons

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:05 | 4409820 SgtShaftoe
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Is it too early for the guillotines?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:16 | 4409882 Overfed
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I'm worried that it's almost too late.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:18 | 4409892 waterwitch
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Why not FMJ? Readily available. Highly effective.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:36 | 4409956 Joseff Stalin
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/03/11/1-6-billion-rounds-of-...

 

OP/ED  |

  

3/11/2013 @ 8:00AM |1,065,699 views

 

1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation

 

The Denver Post, on February 15th, ran an Associated Press article entitled Homeland Security aims to buy 1.6b rounds of ammo, so far to little notice.  It confirmed that the Department of Homeland Security has issued an open purchase order for 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition.  As reported elsewhere, some of this purchase order is for hollow-point rounds, forbidden by international law for use in war, along with a frightening amount specialized for snipers. Also reported elsewhere, at the height of the Iraq War the Army was expending less than 6 million rounds a month.  Therefore 1.6 billion rounds would be enough to sustain a hot war for 20+ years.  In America.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:21 | 4409899 KickIce
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I think we're about 100 years late.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:31 | 4409944 Joseff Stalin
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http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/06/29/why-does-the-government-need-gu...

Why Does the Government Need Guillotines?

 

When retired FBI agent, the now deceased Ted Gunderson, reportedly told a gathering of militia members that the federal government had set up 1,000 internment camps across the country, I had no trouble believing his statement because there is ample documentation to support his statement (e.g. REX 84Operation Garden Plot and now the NDAA). However, when Gunderson reported that the federal government was storing over 500,000 caskets outside of Atlanta, I also knew he was accurate on this point because Sherrie Wilcox found the evidence in the adjacent photo. However, when I heard that Gunderson was accusing the government of storing 30,000 guillotines, I thought he had lost his mind.

Why Would the Government Want to Store Guillotines?

Gunderson told various patriot groups that the guillotines were being stored for the day that the government declares martial law and moves in to round up and execute American dissenters. Gunderson prophetically told patriot groups that the federal government was going to keep track of all of us. The last statement has indeed proven accurate given the recent Snowden/NSA scandal.

Can somebody please explain to me why the government would need to order 30,000 guillotines? For what legitimate purpose could these tools of execution be utilized?


Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:47 | 4409989 gmrpeabody
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I told you to keep away from that tube of glue...

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:47 | 4409997 cynicalskeptic
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For what legitimate purpose could these tools of execution be utilized?

 

Well... you KNOW it won't be billionaires and bankers getting beheaded if government is the one operating them....  

though you think They'd be wary of any symbolism that might remind he masses of the French Revolution - when the aristocracy lost THEIR heads.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:52 | 4410005 cynicalskeptic
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but with billions of rounds of ammo, why guillotines?  seems traumatic and PTSD inducing to the operator (unless they're a sociopath)

I suppose it could be crony capitalism for the guillotine manufacturing sector

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 00:07 | 4410613 WillyGroper
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Dollar a head.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:16 | 4410108 sushi
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Legitimate purpose?

# 1 - Turns out the 1,000 camps are not big enough to hold the 50% of the population of CONUS. Therefore the herd must be culled.

# 2 - Do you realize the cost of feeding 50% of the poopulation of CONUS?. The guillotines will be employed as a cost saving measure. Especially required when the dollar is worth shit. Even watered down gruel will be too expensive for the USA of the future / present.

# 3 - Do you think a politico wants to look like a dumbf**k for ordering 500,000 caskets surplus to requirements. Have to employ the guillotines until the caskets are filled. Then they will realize that bulldozers and trenches are cheaper yet. One set of internees will dig the trenches then climb in. Second set of interness will then shiovel the dirt back in. Saves on both fuel and bullets. Efficiency is the American way. We can shrink this country to greatness!

 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 22:33 | 4410384 Buck Johnson
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Beheading is a good tool to terrorize and such.  And they say 30,000 of the devices, it's real easy.  If you google how many towns are in the US, you come up with a little over 30,000 on the high side but realistically 25 thousand and change.  So you have them by decree set up a guillotine in every town and when a desenter is pushing or not following what central wants, they get arrested and have summary public execution.  There is a reason why executions where done in public.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:17 | 4409883 JLee2027
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...Clearly this is a new low in Russian tradecraft..

and Hilarity ensues....I couldn't watch any more of the propoganda. The Russians are amateurs compared to the NSA.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 22:57 | 4410428 stant
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cee lo for the next appointment! BITCHEZ

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 00:12 | 4410619 The Dunce
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The Ukraine picked a fight with Russia.  Now Putin is unleashing hell.  Putin is a bastard.  Word to your mother.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:48 | 4409743 jefferson32
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(Off-topic): I've been traveling 4-5 times a month for several years the road from Geneva to Lugano. The shortest road is across the Alps through northern Italy. The borders are typically deserted on these small mountain roads, and I used never to get stopped. Lately, each and every time I cross out of Italy into Switzerland (in whatever direction) I am stopped by the italian Guardia Finanzia; there are at least 4 officers each time, asking to open the trunk, asking what I do for a living (hint: don't say you're in private banking). They don't ever have any dogs, and I suspect they are looking for cash and precious metals. Something for sure is going on.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:54 | 4409766 NOZZLE
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Jeff, what's going on is they are desperate for tax revenue and they aint makin it off of some low rent bum buying a carton of milk once a week to feed his five kids.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:02 | 4409798 jefferson32
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Indeed I think so. If you're caught leaving Italy with > 10'000 euros, most (if not all) of it will be confiscated. Possibly related: I've been hearing that cash is being "sold at a premium" over here, i.e. banks are often refusing large cash withdrawals, so fiduciairies have started to offer the service of "wire me the money and I'll provide you the cash" and are getting paid 3-5% commission. This means balances in many banks are already worth less than the equivalent cash.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:02 | 4409809 walküre
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Wow!

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:50 | 4409946 jbvtme
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ditto. i tried to wire money this summer and they asked if it was international. i asked why and they responded that if it was offshore they had do "develop a profile" on me and that any wire would trigger some scrutiny.  i got a cashiers check (for free), called it a day and closed the account and put the money in a credit union...

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:14 | 4409860 jefferson32
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(cash is in backwardation). hehehe

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:20 | 4410130 Joseff Stalin
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Fuck

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:14 | 4409864 Shizzmoney
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No wonder BTC has blown up

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 22:04 | 4410284 chubbar
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Well the U.S. has that beat. Go ahead and get pulled over or stopped with more than a few hundred on your person and watch how fast the fucking criminal cop takes your money under the guise of forfeiture laws, totally legal. The police department keeps most of it as a reward and you have the burden of proof that it wasn't being used for drugs and/or illegally acquired, assuming you can even get a court date.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:02 | 4409804 krispkritter
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If you do some creative searching, I think you'll find a number of very high dollar gold and fiat smuggling trips going on between countries in Europe.  Here's one: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22031699

I don't think they're fooling Europeans any more than 'in-tune' people in the rest of the world.  People are catching on and will be doing their best to protect what little wealth they have.  Not sure dumping everything in Swiss banks is any more secure than leaving it in a local SDB but I think keeping it closer to home is the best option.  Can I suggest the purchase of a leaky boat?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:04 | 4409812 AvoidingTaxation
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I like this road. At one time I had also some small marijuana plants in my car, I was son high that I forgot this detail. Jeez. But 12 years ago the world was different.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:10 | 4409842 gmrpeabody
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" I was son high that I forgot this detail"

Looks like you still got a little buzz...

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:29 | 4409929 AvoidingTaxation
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Ehehe. Good staff. But as he said, at those times there was almost no control. Lucky boy.

 

On a sidenote I was recently reading that giving some liberal freedom in a dictatorship is a tool that the regime can use in order to appeas the masses. Exemple: In Saudi Arabia the regime could give Women the right to drive... and say, hei we are modernizing. And retain all the other regime features. My tought would be that perhaps in the West they will legalize grass (marijuana is a mexican word used in perfect newspeak in order to scare the 'merikans of the time) in order to pretend to be "cool" and "proche du peuple". And appoint Blythe Masters as head of the CFTC.
More close to the topic, what I can say is that Italians are more and more angry because they desperately need money. Switzerland is an easy target, peaceful, full of money and non aggressive. We shall see. The 09.02.2014, the Swiss will vote to shred one of the 26 bilateral treaties with the EU, the "free movement of persons". If this happen, we will perhaps see a black swan in motion. EU vs Switzerland could be a real fight.

Democracy in action, bitchez

P.S There are a lot of lakes and boats in Switzerland.

 

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 00:39 | 4410660 Lore
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The Swiss (at street level) are reputed to be a nation of armed preppers.

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 02:57 | 4410843 tip e. canoe
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giving some liberal freedom in a dictatorship is a tool that the regime can use in order to appeas the masses.

what do you think gay marriage was about?

(or 2008 and 2012 for that matter)

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:10 | 4409834 gwar5
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.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:11 | 4409835 gwar5
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Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:09 | 4409839 gwar5
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Maybe they're looking for another $134 Billion in US Treasury Bearer bonds. Had to bring it up. But you're probably right about the gold.

 

http://seekingalpha.com/article/143462-strange-inconsistencies-in-the-13...

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:22 | 4409906 waterwitch
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Wonder what they'd do if you crossed with an empty boat trailer, and responded that you had a 'boating accident'?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:48 | 4410205 Itch
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Well if you are travelling 5 times a month, they probably have your card marked as a potential smuggler. Use a different car next time and see what happens, if they don't stop you, then your other vehicle is probably being watched.

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 05:14 | 4410923 supermaxedout
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you are smuggling cars, isnt it?

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 09:51 | 4411299 _ConanTheLibert...
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That's quite a trip. I wonder if traveling via Milan, Italy might be faster.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 18:27 | 4415806 AvoidingTaxation
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Yes but you have to pay the mont blanc + French and Italian highway tolls. It takes 3.5h and not 5h as this one. You could also go thru Nufenen Pass (only in Summer - 4.5h / Safe and beautiful) or via the swiss highways (also 5h)

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:52 | 4409758 NOZZLE
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Putin is whatever he is but he does not pretend to be something he is not.

One of my favorite things is springing something on witnesses during a trial and having them complain about how I found out about what they thought they had shredded, destroyed or had hidden.  

"How did you get that" as though how I got it somehow detracts from its legitimacy as evidence.

 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:53 | 4410217 Itch
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"Putin is whatever he is but he does not pretend to be something he is not."

A politician? 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:52 | 4409760 Breezy47
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I just listened to the conversation and all I can think of to say is fuck obama and impeach his lilly mocha ass. This country is getting it's ass handed to it.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:31 | 4409943 Wait What
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as the saying goes: "never trust a light, bright, half-white..."

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:26 | 4410141 Joseff Stalin
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"...I just listened to the conversation and all I can think of to say is fuck obama and impeach his lilly mocha ass. This country is getting it's ass handed to it...."

 

Translation:

 

I just fucking listened to the fucking conversation and all I fucking can think of to fucking say is fucking fuck obama and fucking impeach his fucking lilly mocha fucking ass. This fucking country is fucking getting it's fucking ass fucking handed to it.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:53 | 4409764 The man with po...
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Fucking comedy this is! Silly bitch.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:53 | 4409768 Colonel Klink
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Hahaha, our lying spying government is upset at the recording of private conversations.

Why don't YOU honor our 4th amendment protections, as well as the rest which control your actions?  Eat a fucking bag of dicks you hypocritcal scumbags!!! 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:41 | 4409969 Joseff Stalin
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"...Hahaha, our lying spying government is upset at the recording of private conversations...."

 

Translation to american street language:

 

Hahaha, our fucking lying spying government fucking is upset at fucking the recording of  fucking private fucking conversations.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:53 | 4410017 gmrpeabody
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Over-using the F word doesn't impress as much as letting it slip out every once-in-awhile.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:53 | 4409769 pupdog1
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If I were an athlete there, I would be using all my athletic prowess to get the fuck out of this Russian clown operation.

 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:42 | 4409982 Joseff Stalin
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Where would you go?  America? How is that better? Where did Snowden attempt to go? How successful was he? Where did he end up?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:55 | 4409770 americanspirit
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From the looks of the State Dept bimbo I would guess that if she was ordered to fuck the EU, the whole EU, she would probably get the job done one bureaucrat at a time - or maybe in groups of two or three. Or .....

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:55 | 4409777 r00t61
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So now where's the guy from the other thread who said that this recording was simply haxored out of thin air by the FSB?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:57 | 4410045 object_orient
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Exactly this. Cult_of_Reason, where art thou?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:58 | 4409780 Robinhood
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If you are an idiot morron you surround yourself with idiot morrons to make yourself look like a star, asshole.

Wait, this can't be true. Is this an Onion production? 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:56 | 4409781 No.51
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The broader implication here is that this woman is voicing the thoughts of the US Government. ie F**K the EU is official Government policy.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 19:59 | 4409796 Ms. Erable
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Why wouldn't it be? USG involvement in any situation has only has two possible outcomes: fuck over or fuckup.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:01 | 4409795 TheMeatTrapper
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Where's the guy from the other thread ( I think his name was Cult_of_Reason) that was claiming the call was fake? Wonder if he's man enough to step up and admit he was wrong? 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:03 | 4409807 ebworthen
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ROFLMAO!!!

Serves you right you Fourth Amendment raping two-faced Jackals!

I'm going to root for Russia in the Olympics.

Shit.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:05 | 4409822 Colonel Klink
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I might add China to the list, as I think they've got the right idea on economics.  Not necessarily how they're using paper and credit (I think they're just using the current system until it implodes), but by accumulating gold reserves while waiting for the financial reset.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:31 | 4409937 KickIce
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China is nothing but a parasite living off our middle class.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:01 | 4410053 object_orient
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And vice versa.

But if you look at a graph of wealth distribution over time, the biggest parasites are....

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 01:03 | 4410314 KickIce
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No, we were pretty much self sufficient until our politicians sold us out.  As far as benefiting from cheap goods, I disagree on that point as well as supply/demand always finds optimum price.  All outsourcing has done is funnel the dollars to the top.

If you are referring to bankers/polititions, then the US wins hands down.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 23:40 | 4410548 KickIce
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My bad CK, little trouble with reading comprehension tonight.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:06 | 4409827 krispkritter
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I would too.  Have you seen some of their 'athletes'? 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:13 | 4409849 Colonel Klink
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OK, when can I narc on the government so I can claim exile in Russia?!?!

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:16 | 4409879 sixsigma cygnus...
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I seem to remember 70s era Soviet female Olympic athletes came with a unibrow and more muscle than Schwarzenegger.  My, how things have changed...!

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:47 | 4409998 Joseff Stalin
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Incredible Performance From Olga Korbut 'Darling Of Munich' - Munich 1972 Olympics

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2NGqI6FqeQ

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:25 | 4409919 Berspankme
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I'll admit it, I got a little boner from that

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:29 | 4409932 krispkritter
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I like the ski jumper in the helmet, no headboard related injuries there!

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:38 | 4409959 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Never in my life have I ever seen an ice hockey goalie like that.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 23:15 | 4410489 Blano
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That's certainly a 5 hole I could live with.

Fri, 02/07/2014 - 08:42 | 4411066 kralizec
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That ski jumper got a rise out of me! 

Kakaya krasotka!
Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:51 | 4410019 Freedom In Your...
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not sure this is the place to go advertising the size of your boner...

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:36 | 4409952 ebworthen
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Hubba-hubba.

I'll be watching Women's curling for sure.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:38 | 4409960 DaddyO
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Holy Smokes, I wanna be a speed skater!!! or even the ice for that matter.

DaddyO

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:12 | 4410097 Blano
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Sheesh, now I'm gonna have to dig my TV out of the closet.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:05 | 4409814 Son of Captain Nemo
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And guess what Guys and Dolls.

Another "Cry Wolf" lie as to who really did it for the American brain dead!

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:03 | 4409815 Hedgerow-
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Is she sweating or is that some sort of fancy make-up?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:15 | 4409872 TheFourthStooge-ing
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It's fancy makeup, from the Buqqaque® line of cosmetics (very popular at the State Department).

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:28 | 4409928 Son of Captain Nemo
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Lets hope that it's a cadre of former and active NSA/CIA that helped give Jen that "morning glistening" look.

Lot's more to this story, as I think many people both on and off "The Reservation" want some sea changes and Psaki along with Nuland are the ripe low hanging fruit to make it happen.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:03 | 4409817 jmcadg
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Pot and Kettle. This is comedy gold.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:06 | 4409824 Toolshed
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So this is what we pay our taxes for? Seems like a good time to stop.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:14 | 4409826 tony wilson
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she is a bitch with jewish blood and has red hair that is beyond the bible.

goes back to gilgermesh.

jen pissaki in the clip above is drowning in a sea of stale virtual realiity spin.

she has no knowledge and no answers.

the video set all looks like a plastic cgi operators spunk party.

hollograms made up juorno spokes and made up red head hosts.

tough talking computer actors give the red haired cunt a grilling makes you think of democracy how nice.

hd max headroom video replies the future for all who love freedoms and want cgi reply to real time stories.

stories being the most important word.

 

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 21:56 | 4410242 Bitchin Bear
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Channel Yen Cross much?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:11 | 4409828 Dr. Engali
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This country gets more embarrassing every day. What ever happened to personal responsibility? What is so hard about saying " yeah I said it in a moment of anger. I shouldn't have said it and I apologize." Millions of Americans say something along those lines every day. WTF can't they? The way they always try to redirect is sickening.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:15 | 4409855 Ratscam
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exactly, taking on self responsibility! Politicians are not capable or to afraid of.
+100

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:24 | 4409910 Ratscam
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the problem with this response would be that she, the US spokesperson, would acknowledge her US involvement in the Ukraine uprise movement. Then again, why not be transparent about these issues?

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:39 | 4409962 layman_please
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you are talking about politicians... only reason they are getting away with it is media. there's change in awareness not because media is doing it's job but because msm is being bypassed by alternative media which largely consists of common people who still have principles.

politician are crooks and people are stupid, so if the link(media) between them is broken or one way only, obviously the outcome is corruption in all fields of the society.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:48 | 4410006 salvadordaly
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Liberals ideal of freedom is, "freedom from responsibilty". Learn it, know it, live it.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:22 | 4409905 Joseff Stalin
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Some Americans use the F-word after every third word they say.

Thu, 02/06/2014 - 20:27 | 4409930 Overfed
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Fuck yeah, I know watcha fuckin' mean. Buncha uncouth fuckers. :-D

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