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Turkish Government Restricts Internet Access; Erdogan Compared To Hitler
"Remember that Adolf Hitler used the same methods when he rose to power," opposition leader Hasan Oren blasts as Turkish PM Erdogan as the Turkish parliament has approved a bill that would tighten government controls over the internet. As The BBC reports, the new law allows the government to block websites without first seeking a court ruling. "Now you are implementing fascism," Oren goes on, despite promises of "enhancing democracy in Turkey" when Erdogan was elected. The Erdogan government had already restricted access to "the scourge of Twitter" and Facebook's "menace to society," but this latest step dismisses any legal limits or restrictions.
The Turkish parliament has approved a bill that would tighten government controls over the internet.
The new law will allow Turkey's telecommunications authority to block websites without first seeking a court ruling.
It will also force internet providers to store data on web users' activities for two years and make it available to the authorities.
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Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been openly critical of the internet, calling Twitter a "scourge" and condemning social media as "the worst menace to society".
Both Twitter and Facebook were widely used by anti-government protesters to spread information during demonstrations last year.
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"When you came to power you talked of enhancing democracy in Turkey - now you are trying to implement fascism," he said.
"Remember that Adolf Hitler used the same methods when he rose to power."
However, Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc said there was "no such thing as internet censorship" in Turkey.
"We are freer compared to many other countries and have freedom of the press," he said.
The Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) said the new powers meant Turkey's telecommunications agency would be able to "gather communications data about all internet users without any legal limits or restrictions" and with users "never... able to know when and how this information is gathered".
We suspect some other sites that are awkwardly telling the truth about Turkey will soon be censored.
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Adolf Hitler restricted internet acces?
He forced people to use dial up.
And nationalized Compuserve.
Can not flip the switch off with Gold. Not sure what this says about Bitcoin....however...I think someone around here can shed some light on this topic.
Hold on here, Reggie Middleton claimed a persons' access to the internet could never be restricted.
Be the first to get your "This Website Blocked By Hitler" sticker!
More "Hitler" on ZH lately than on the History Channel
No online porn in Turkey.......that sucks!
Back to offline porn then, probably. Got a pristine collection of playboys? Your portfolio just jumped, bitchez. Thank erdogan and his islamifying electorate.
I remember when Hitler also limited the number of apps that you could have on a smartphone. What an asshole.
He also tried to steal Facebook away from Mark Zuckerberg, but failed. Then, when it came down to casting for the movie "THE SOCIAL NETWORK", he tried to steal the lead role from Jesse Eisenberg. He also tried to put all his cronies on the Board of Directors of Google, as well as hijack the NBA.
You're right! What an @sshole! [We must vigilantly put a stop to all this nonsense]
Hitler also tried to ban alternate payment systems, but ultimately failed here.
Hitler is lobbying Hollywood to produce a new Hitler biopic with George Clooney in the lead.
hitlers new app; angry jews
Chris Rock [I understand]
Hitler made Amazon charge sales tax.
All your tweets and likes are belong to us..
Hitler loses his internet connection [Der Unterfall variation]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC5yVDVc97w
AlGore! Der eselhengst!
Traudl Junge
"The movie Der Untergang [Downfall (2004)], which has been widely cited for its historical accuracy, depicts Junge being saved by a boy with whom she walks through Russian lines but this is a fictional (and metaphorical) dramatic device invented for the film's ending. In truth, Junge was raped repeatedly by Russian soldiers, as were many other German women during the fall of Berlin in 1945. She was subsequently held for a year as the 'personal prisoner' of a Russian major."
Your coins would be fine. Assuming they are stored in a web-based wallet you (might) not be able to access them temporarily within Turkish borders. However, it is a heck of a lot easier to spot gold when fleeing nations than memorized encryption keys.
That was a better answer than I was expecting. Tks.
....and just because .gov disallows internet access does not mean people are not accessing the internet. They can try ban gravity too if they'd like.
Who are all these international men of mystery that think they can slip over the border with their colon filled with USP sticks? if the internet is shut down good luck, i'll take my chances at home with the 7B's.
Bullets
Bullion
Beans
Booze
Bitches and Blow (not really, just needed humouous filler for the 7B's)
Bitcoin (not)
Why do you need a USB stick? Ever heard of a paper wallet? Just stick to commenting on what you know, most of you are clueless.
"Thank you for visiting Turkey, to complete your trip through customs please step through this mini EMP generator"
Memorize the encryption key. If they try to erase that, you have bigger concerns than money.
If you're not a total dipshit you would have stored your coins safely on your USB drive. Shove it up your arse and walk (uncomfortably) through the scanners into any country you desire.
This is the answer I was expecting.
Don't let fonestar and Skin666 give you a bad impression of the Bitcoin community. Well... maybe fonestar.
fonestar came to spread the word of Satoshi in good faith. Was greeted with jeers, FUD and insults.... responded accordingly.
Ah.......where's Jesus when you need a cheek to be turned.
and imposed download caps
The Erdogan government had already restricted access to "the scourge of Twitter" and Facebook's "menace to society,"
They hate us for our freedoms. Does this mean that the pinnacle of freedom is Twitter and Facebook. We're fucked.
"Twitter flash mobs" take on a whole new meaning over in the brown countries.
Yep, and killing access to the internet worked so well in Egypt.
The Turks are jealous of our women:
http://freecodesource.com/people-of-walmart/Women-Of-Walmart/
Let it all hang out!!!!!!!
they hate us 'cause they are afraid us
With 300 baud Hayes modems.....
yeah, that was news to me. "The scourge of Twitter"; guys got a way with words. I thought it just sucked, never knew it was a "scourge".
Of course he did, hey he was Hitler. He was and is the cause of all evil in the universe. Saying the opposite would be a revisionist statement !
Fascism is absolutely necessary. How else are you gonna keep the people in line. Bitches.
Ahhh yes, the race to the bottom on who calls who "Hitler" or "Nazi"...
Strange that ZH is going to the BBC for news mind; for the BBC is a bastard creation of the Foreign Office, inspired by Joseph Goebbels!
Turkey, like many developing economies are nothing more than pawns to be played with by current and former empires.
I normally thank my lucky stars for ZH and most of its readership (i.e. their respective comments), but getting articles from the BBC scares me.
.... and what is the "truth about turkey" anyway? Erdogan = Hitler, therefore anti-erdogan is good? When did the world become so clear?
Does "fascism" work better for you? "nationalist socialism" perhaps!
BTW you can find the origin of the ban on comparing anything to Hitler on leftists focus on Hitler as the definition of unspeakable, incomparable ultra evil. Why the ultra vilification of Hitler above all murdering tyrants?
Precisely to distract from leftists own type of murderers, numerically more performant, alive and well at the head of brutal tyrannies(Stalin and Mao, when our leftist intelligentsia was so busy defining the nazis as incomparably evil).
So, fuck that. When you see a proto fascist regime (ie nationalist socialism) doing tyrannical stuff, compare all you want to Mussolini and Hitler's fascist party tactics as they grabbed and consolidated power on the way up.
Quite right. Why is it that posh Bond Street art galleries feel that it's perfectly all right to sell overpriced pop art pictures of Chairman Mao, but get bent out of shape if you ask them whether they have anything similar featuring Adolf Hitler?
("Or maybe something a bit less expensive -- say, Idi Amin, or Pol Pot? No? A Charles Manson, perhaps?")
The El Che image everybody knows still makes money for the artist. El Che was a murdering socialist psychopath of the inter-nationalist variety, so not to be compared with the ultra evil nationalist socialist tyrannical murdering psychos.
hahaha
you crack me up TBT...
ok, "socialsim is evil" according to you, but if you're an american then it is likely that you've never seen it (unless you were around during the days of the founding fathers!), for Obama isn't a socialist - he's Zionist uncle irving wannabe.
I get what you're trying to say, but I do wonder if you keep a hitler-blowup doll in your attick, that you bring down on those "special times"!
Obviously I hope not, but we live in strange world.
faked a attack by poland on a cell phone/ wifi tower to kick off www.2
are we there yet?
/sarc
"we do it to protect you"
Just like this! It's like having dear old Mom coddle you . . . if she was wearing a SWAT uniform while standing on your neck.
New electronic ‘eyes’ can track your every move
A powerful new generation of surveillance tools — able to track every vehicle and person for several hours in an area the size of a small city — is rolling out.
(Article at WashingtonPost.com) http://tinyurl.com/pmya5ev
"We are freer..." lol who was it that said freedom and slavery are not divisible?
Fuck that dude!
Jeremy Bentham designed the proposal for the first panopticon prison. The design allowed for the inspector to see each of the prisoners at all times without being seen. This allowed for a utilitarian approach of very few guards in proportion to very many prisoners. Equally as important as the economic efficiency of the guard to prisoner ratio was the fact that the prisoners could not tell when they were being actively observed. Based on Bentham’s ingenious design, prisoners have no way of knowing if they were not being observed at all, because they could not see the observer. According to Bentham’s philosophy, in the mind of the prisoner they are always being observed and they act accordingly.
from : The Spy Who Nudged Me by tradewithdave
model for facebook.
Fucking NWO police state swine.
March 1933
Order of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State
Articles 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 and 153 of the Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. It is therefore permissible to restrict the rights of personal freedom [habeas corpus], freedom of (opinion) expression, including the freedom of the press, the freedom to organize and assemble, the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications. Warrants for House searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree#Text_of_the_decree
Old school, fer sure, but there's something refreshing in a fascist freak actually coming out and explicitly announcing the suspension of civil rights--damn, compared to our ruling oligarch junta, the Nazis are looking like boy scouts in this respect.
The state of the propaganda arts has certainly shifted to a degree that Hitler and his boys could never have even dreamed.
At least Turkey will no longer have to suffer the infliction of like-whores, +1 parasites and vanity-seeking bottom-feeders. <sarc>
Does this mean Kim Kardashian is going to lose all of her Turkish Instagram followers?
Fuck Kim Kardashian...
And no! I don't mean screw that plastic whore!
i sincerely hate kim kardashian and her inbred family with all my guts. the wife watches that crap when it's on, and it actually feels like the television is sucking IQ points out of my brain.
still can't work out if that known-for-a-porn-movie whore is a genius, as her marketing is frankly very good, or a complete idiot. regardless, i don't plan on watching the show to find out.
The pungency of her and her breed's stupidity is overwhelmingly nauseating. I've had the displeasure of having to overhear that garbage as well. Why won't they go away!
like all vampires, they thrive on the blood of their hosts. in their case (and that of all other celebrities), the blood is called attention. makes no difference to them whether that attention is adulation or displeasure, AS LONG AS it continues to bring them the attention they crave.
want them to disappear? stop feeding them any attention at all. pass the word.
Her genius is a reflection of the dumbed down public.
We'll all have to open SnapChat accounts to find out.
Our pre-CMOS ancestors would have said, "WTF IS THIS SHIT?"
You almost tricked me into +1, but I stopped myself when I realized I fit that description perfectly....ha ha ha.....
Oh, go on, have a +1 then!
Does that mean they can't track you anymore?
Jump on the "Midnight Express" and stay on track!
Like the global coordinated printing fest, TPTB will try the same sort of censorship world wide.
they hate us for our freedom.............heheheheh
Yes, how quickly people forget SOPA and the US gov't wanting the similar ability to shut down web sites without a court order first.
William Shirer - Berlin Diary. Should be required reading for high school students here in the US. Will be in our house.
Coming to a theather near you!
Adolph sure gets blamed and compared to a lot !!!
Yep: for starting World War II, the Holocaust and...
You get the idea.
Increasing number of ZH articles with "Hitler" in the title.
So no more hairy Turkish women pornos I guess
Turkish women are among the most attractive in the world. I put them just a notch below Hungary.
They're just taking a play out of the NSA's operatiions manual. It'll be the same here in 10 years.
Sure seems like these are beta-test locations.
Presumably, the banned sites will all direct you to healthcare.gov.
What would you expext of Obammy's BFF ??
Verhofstadt will be our new EU dictator !
http://static3.demorgen.be/static/photo/2011/15/15/8/20110316170509/medi...
They just want to show the EU that they belong to be in it.
"Turkey's done, stick a fork in it".
C'mon, to all religious men, and Erdogan wears that mantle in front of his own kind, the Internet is like SIN.
As they said in the past : to all ecumenical minded people "free will" was being creature of Satan, outside the pale of divine word and savior's light.
Apart from Ataturk, most Turkish leaders have slalomed between secular logic and dogma without really making a definitive choice like Europe post Enlightenment.
So for Erdogan its easy to play that game mixing superstition of religion with reason of state to ban all form of free will, especially if its anti-status quo.
Oldest trick in the game.
And, NSA -USa is on the same ideological plane.
Hey Turkeys that read ZH tell Erdogan to go fuck off and here is how. Spread the word turd.
http://rt.com/news/twitter-twister-network-bitcoin-576/
Miguel Freitas was always a big Twitter fan – especially as it drummed out information on the June mass protests in his native Brazil at a time when no competent up-to-the-minute source existed locally.
But even though Twitter to him symbolized what decentralized media is, Freitas, in an interview with Wired magazine, opened up about his feelings that a world in which the NSA apparently has its nose in every conceivable internet communication would soon need new avenues for information exchange. Ten years of people blissfully communicating their daily routines and locations to Facebook, Twitter and other services have led to large segments of society seeking a newer, upgraded kind of networking, Freitas says.
Using his programming skills, Freitas created an open-source Twitter-like service run on a Bitcoin platform. Doing so is key to the technology; Twister allows its users to share posts without them being later stored in one place or server. Its decentralized nature means that it cannot be targeted and erased by a third party. Nor will that party be able to tell if a user is online, what their IP address is and who they follow.
The test version Freitas produced with collaborator Lucas Leal runs on Android, Apple OSX and Linux, and works off a user-run server, or one run by someone the user trusts. Unlike Twitter, Twister’s peer-to-peer architecture works without a central server.
“Twister is a microblogging peer-to-peer platform, that is, it is a distributed system like bittorrent or similar file sharing technologies. Being completely decentralized means that no one is able to shut it down, as there is no single point to attack. The system is also designed so it cannot be censored, freedom of speech cannot be taken from you. And because the cryptography is employed end-to-end, no entity is able to spy on your communications,” Freitas explains on Twister’s homepage.
Using bitcoin’s architecture and verification methods, the app similarly ensures that users do not cheat the system by registering twice or using someone else’s account to post updates. And this system of control is not operated by humans, but by a network of Twister computers run through a BitTorrent protocol (BitTorrent is a peer-to-peer download client), which ensures that posts are automatically and quickly posted, and without a central server.
The Twister protocol works in a similar way to bitcoin miners. But unlike the miners, which unlock digital currency, the miners on Twister are used to verify users. In exchange for allowing themselves to be registered on the network, users receive the ability to share promoted posts. This is something that can be used for both personal and other reasons, even social causes.
There is only one catch, which Freitas points out. Allowing for the possibility that your internet traffic is monitored, that means so is your IP address. And that in turn can be tied to your Twister account. This is why, according to Wired, Freitas suggests that users use the Tor Project’s anonymity software.
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Being able to adapt quickly to restrictions is essential as things get more repressive...
Geez, wonder if Bitcoin sites have been blocked as a capital control measure? Can't ever happen eh Fonestar?
Bitcoin is not a web site it's a protocol which you cannot switch off.
Right and the blockchain technology itself can be adapted for many different uses besides crypto-currency.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Alternative_chain
blockchain systems could eventually replace entire governments with distributed democratic software processes.
The guy's right about Twitter being shitty, but trying to stop people from communicating is evil. It's only a matter of time before this fascism spreads and we're stuck in another great war.
Trying to stop people from communicating is perfectly logical if you consider them your enemies and they're trying to organize against you. That's liek military strategy 101. As for it being evil, I guess it depends on which side you're on. I'm sure the Taliban consider Americans very very evil for cutting off the donkey express.
Twitter. Worse than Armenian genocide.......
Turkey is just catching up with the USA... who doubts that there is an Executive Order issued by either Bush or Obama that already gives the US government the ability to block internet sites or cell phone access "in times of national emergency"...
According to the btc fanboys what you are suggesting, and Turkey is doing, is simply not possible. LOL
If what you are trying to say is that Turkey could switch off btc then you clearly have absolutely zero understanding of btc or of how it functions.
a national network can block IP port 8333 on select gateways.
I bet that Obama has a copy of this bill sitting on his desk ready to be signed anyday now.
fascism???
isn't that a fancy word for socialism??
Fascism is socialism for the 1% only. But even socialism was socialism for the 1% only, so no big difference here.
If Assad did it, it would be a reason to bomb Damascus.
Welcome to the Brotherhood.
Orwel wept.
In my informed opinion, the universal limitation on information and thought by the criminals of government is their biggest tell. They are nothing more than a criminal syndicate backstopped by lies and to allow free reign of information and of thought is to destroy the lie, and them in the process.
"Mankind one day left the trees and began to walk upright, but some amongst mankind have demanded that the rest walk stooped. Time to reject them and walk tall without them."
Everything on the www is ultimately and absolutely corruptable; it cannot be relied on. There is no keeping 'The Truth' pristine on the www.
Truth comes from thinking.
It's fairly simple and not so exciting; they want to take as much as possible to data, it is the Panopticon and saves on gunpowder and boots on your porch. They want to get everyone through the chutes. Anyone seen a hard-copy downloadable ACA registration? That's because there isn't one or they don't want to make it easy to find. They want all your shit searchable and I mean all.
Teach yourself to function as far as possible without electronic data devices. Or build your own online profile but shunt meaningful info completely off. They are not gods, just fatasses in cubicles, they can't ultimately accomplish what they envision. Cameras get spraypainted if not shot off their mounts, it's their Achilles Heel.
Is this what you mean:
https://www.healthcare.gov/downloads/MarketplaceApp_Checklist_Generic.pdf
Those Turkish controls and retention of Internet usage ordered by Erdogan look remarkably similar to the powers Britain's Blair government gave itself under the RIPA Act, and now being widely abused by GCHQ according to leaks.
Sure, Erdogan is bad but let's not forget how bad our own governments are.
One man, one vote, ONCE. You've cast your vote, now live with the consequences.
Please Lord protect us from the government.
The f**king (bleep) has to go and go yesterday.