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Angela Merkel Furious At Nuland's "Fuck The EU" Comments

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A few short months after Putin cornered the US state department into a disastrous foreign relations dead end with the false flag Syrian escalation which achieved none of the predetermined nat-gas-to-Europe pipeline ambitions, instead alieanting the US from both staunch allies Saudi Arabia and Israel, the Russian president has just managed to inflict yet more pain on US foreign policy this time by infuriating (even more) a core US ally in Europe - Angela Merkel. Just two days after the phone recording of Victoria Nuland emerged in which she not only made it explicitly clear it was the US who was the puppetmaster behind the Ukranian opposition with the traditional CIA tractics as was expected all along, but also explained just how the US freels toward the EU with the now infamous "Fuck the EU" comment, Angela Merkel called the obscene remark "absolutely unacceptable."

And then, Nuland not knowing when to stop, proceeded to insert foot in mouth just a little deeper: ""I am not going to comment on private diplomatic conversations. But it was pretty impressive tradecraft. The audio was extremely clear," she told reporters during a visit to Kiev."

At least she indirectly complemented Putin on being smart enough to not only intercept what appears to have been an unencrypted phone call, but to release it at just the right time as the entire world's attention turns to Russia and by extension, the Ukraine.

Because in retrospect Putin does deserve praise: having won the Ukraine over Europe's cries of horror, he has also managed, in the past year, to alienate the US from Israel, Saudi Arabia and now, Germany. And all this without saying a single word, let along firing a shot.

So now that we know the apriori winner, the loser has no choice but to engage major damage control, which is borderline delusional. From Reuters:

[Nuland] said she did not foresee damage to relations with opposition leaders, saying they "know exactly where we stand in respect of a non-violent solution to the problem."

 

Of relations with Russia, she said Washington and Moscow had "very deep, very broad and complex" discussions on a range of international issues including Iran and "frank and comradely discussions" on Ukraine.

 

U.S. officials did not deny the authenticity of the recording and said Nuland apologized to EU colleagues for the comment.

 

Angela Merkel, already furious with Washington for several months over reports that U.S. officials bugged her own phone, found Nuland's remarks "totally unacceptable", a spokeswoman for the German chancellor said.

Yet, it's one thing to delude oneself that the US is still the undisputed world's superpower, it is far worse to express the kind of hubris that Nuland did, when she communicated and discussed confidential US geopolitical strategy on an unencrypted phone line - traditionally a fireable offense, if not worse.

In Washington, U.S. officials said Nuland and Pyatt apparently used unencrypted cellphones, which are easy to monitor. The officials said smart phones issued to State Department officials had data encryption but not voice encryption.

 

In Nuland's call, apparently recorded about 12 days ago when Ukrainian opposition leaders were considering an offer from Yanukovich to join his cabinet, she suggested that one of three leading figures might accept a post but two others should stay out. In the end, all three rejected the offer.

The biggest loser here, however, continues to be the Ukraine, whose people are facing a cold winter without assurances they will have Russian nat gas, and a government that is a chess piece in an ongoing power play between Europe and Russia, now that the CIA has taken a back seat. Incidentally, Russia made it quite clear that it demands Ukraine's full allegiance and as Russian finance minister Anton Siluanov told reporters overnight, Russia  would withold its second loan payment to the troubled nation unless the Ukraine, which owes a “not insignificant” sum for natgas, makes the payment.

In other words, just like Greece has become a money "tolling" intermediary for the ECB and German banks, in which Europe pretends to bail out the crushed country when in reality it is just funding debt payments to its own banks, so the Ukraine has now become an intermediary, in which loan payments from Russia go to pay... Russia's Gazprom. And in the process Russia pulls the Ukraine from the European sphere of influence and back into that of the New Normal USSR.

Game, set, match Putin. Again.

But wait, there's more. Because Putin, unsatisfied with simple making a mockery of the US State Department, decided to rub it in some more. The Hill reports:

Rising animosity between the former Cold War powers was on full display Friday when Russia chose a former figure skater who tweeted out a racially charged picture of President Obama for the symbolic lighting of the Olympic cauldron.

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin hoped hosting the first Games since the 1980 Moscow Olympics, which the U.S. boycotted, would showcase a “new Russia” emerging from the ashes of the Soviet Union as he enters his 15th year in power.

 

Instead the U.S. and its western allies have consistently painted the picture of a corrupt autocracy.

 

The media's focus on the persecution of gays in Russia, terrorism and Russia's lackluster infrastructure – many hotels don't have potable water even though the Games are estimated to have cost more than $50 billion, the most ever – have further infuriated the Kremlin.

 

“I understand how the press here works. They need hot issues in order to be read, to have high circulation,” Sergey Kislyak, Putin's envoy to Washington, told The Washington Diplomat last month.

That's ok - as long as the US population can keep itself distracted from the sheer implosion of US standing internationally by looking at tweeted images of decrepit toilets and busted Sochi plumbing from a self-indulgent US press corps, and continue feeling good about itself, then all is well. After all, that's just what Putin wants.

 


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Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:26 | Link to Comment LeisureSmith
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Fuck the EU.

A statement i can really get behind. Fuck'em.

That goes for you too Mutti.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:34 | Link to Comment strannick
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Nuland was just expressing Americas sincere feelings towards Euroland. What's Merkel surprized? No doubt they were saying the same thing at the NY Fed when they decided to keep Germany's gold.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:42 | Link to Comment jbvtme
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what about the missing gold, douchbag?

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:44 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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Bitch Fight, Bitch Fight ...

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:56 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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NuNu: Merkel Shuddup, Or You Get Only 1 Tonne A Year

Of Your FED GOLD Back...

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:00 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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yup, just thinking that...maybe Merkel will demand more gold?

"You know what, Barack?  SEND IT ALL BACK."

Also, when Putin succeeds in yanking Turkey away from NATO, energy flows get interesting.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:19 | Link to Comment ElvisDog
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Interesting for who? Euroland? Well, fuck 'em, that's their problem. It's no business of the U.S. how the EU gets its nat gas or at what price.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:29 | Link to Comment Arius
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I would be furious too!  good for you Merkel showing some bones finally ...

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:33 | Link to Comment Bindar Dundat
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none of this happens without help from inside the Whitehouse.  The U.S. might have  a Prez that is not entirely on the side of America.  

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:41 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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Why do you conspiracy idiots always believe this shit happens on purpose due to some grand scheme of things??

It happens because WE ELECTED A BUNCH OF FUCKING MORONS TO RUN THIS COUNTRY AND SO WE GET IDIOCRACY SHIT HEADS LIKE NULAND!

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:52 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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You think Nuland was elected, do you?

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Newsboy
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Every phone is bugged.

Nuland was stupid to behave as if her phone was not bugged.

I learned this in the mid 1970s.

When was it not true since then?

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:48 | Link to Comment lewietheparrot
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Do you think that all of this was an accident?

After all of the other accidents, you do not think this was done deliberately as a provocation?

I don't know, myself, but even stupidity has limits----

I don't know, but your post called for the question for some reason

Thanks, Newsboy

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 21:43 | Link to Comment Newsboy
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@lewietheparrot

I can't imagine how much stupidity is spoken on phones all the time.

I don't see this as provocation.

Russia probably has much worse stuff recorded.

This is just a bit of a flourish in the fencing match, not a thrust.

"Style points"

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 23:18 | Link to Comment Keyser
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Obama gets his ass handed to him once again by Putin. Oh the irony. 

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 13:39 | Link to Comment eurogold
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Thanks Mrs. Nuland ! Another fine example of American Diplomacy

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 15:27 | Link to Comment Pegasus Muse
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Victoria Nuland’s Bio: http://www.nndb.com/people/567/000120207/

Her husband’s: http://www.nndb.com/people/379/000048235/ (Founder, Project for the New American Century [PNAC])

Both Zionist NeoCons to the core and both probably dual passport holders. Nuland was a National Security Advisor to Dick Cheney; now she's Hitlary's deputy at State. Politicians come and go but the shadow government operators remain to play the game.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:04 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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I love how the MSM quickly entered damage control mode and diverted public attention by focusing on the "Fuck the EU" statement rather than the core of what the United States Of Israel State Department was actually up to in the Ukraine.

Bravo! The regularly scheduled programming can now safely proceed...

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 23:27 | Link to Comment Attitude_Check
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Before you act so smug, you should make sure you know what you are talking about.  She is a political appointee, appointed by the president who is at least officially elected.

 

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 05:38 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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She was also subjected to Confirmation Hearings by the US Senate which is another elected body.

 

http://www.capitalbay.com/mobile/mobile/news/government-politics/363638-victoria-nuland-answers-benghazi-questions-during-senate-confirmation-hearing.html

 

Note the Benghazi reference...

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 05:38 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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Yeah, she wasn't elected you ignorant cunts.  And she wasn't appointed because we elect idiots, she was appointed because she is part of the same tiny elite as the people who propel the candidates we get to power in the first place.

 

You have two parties, both controlled by the super wealthy, and you think you have a "choice" because you get to go in a booth and choose Coke or Pepsi?

 

Ignorant feckers, ain't ye junkers?

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:55 | Link to Comment Dugald
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Is that Nuland from Nutland?????

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 21:05 | Link to Comment mendolover
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How does the saying go?  "It's not a conspiracy theory if it can be proven it's true".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkNOK1r1nd4

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 05:43 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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Thank you for making me aware that this exists.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 23:07 | Link to Comment The Heart
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It sure is a good thing the EU has those rothschilds and all their money to save them from the crash.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:30 | Link to Comment foodisgood
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"FUCK ME!"

As usual all you naggers here under Tyler's trance believe you are better than the problems of your leaders and are immune cause you know the real score.

We are all fucked here cause 'the story' is just about that. Getting fucked.

The world got to where it is today due to cooperation, trust and understanding what real capital WAS. All the motherfuckers here are just like the motherfuckers you point the finger at - willing to sell you mom for just one more fix to place you on what ever pedistal gives you the feeling of being so special.

Why are we so fucked - go look in the mirror ya fukin nagger.

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 05:44 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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I would rather be fucked while I am awake and aware instead of taking an ass pounding in my sleep.

 

In that way I will know who is going to get their throat cut when I get the chance.

 

Do you know how to make bombs? Who needs a gun?

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:01 | Link to Comment RafterManFMJ
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Unencrypted phone calls? Gutter talk? The real problem here is America's quota and affirmative action shibboleths; promoting people to positions of real power where they can do real damage due to their stupidity, incompetence and inexperience.

The good news is Nations that subscribe to such self-destructive policies, eventually, self-destruct.

Read that the most common occupation in Congress is lawyer - and the most common occupation in the Chinese equivalent is engineer.

Freed Reed's latest column described AmeriKa perfectly - 'A third world country with a first world infrastructure.'

So buckle up campers as it's going to get worse before it can get better - this I promise you.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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I agree.  Nuland is yet another example of "The Peter Principle"  at work here in the US in addition to Obama being an idiot who never should have been allowed to run for public office.

I wish Angela would put on a pair of German shit kicker boots and  kick Nulan's ass hard for being such an Ugly American.

Now back to re-loading!

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:54 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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Nope. Nuland is there because she's an establishment neocon like her husband.  And Obama is there because a small group of influential people recognized what a charismatic figure he was before he was ever installed as a state senator.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:46 | Link to Comment Rafferty
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True.  And they also had plenty of dirt on Bath-house Barry to keep him in line.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 15:49 | Link to Comment rehypothecator
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This problem could even only arise because of the coercive power of states.  "Fuck the EU" wouldn't even come up if the only thing America did with the EU was trade with them when it made economic (but, pointedly, not "political") sense to do so.  

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 15:10 | Link to Comment TahoeBilly2012
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Neocon? You mean New World Order Israel firster?

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 05:41 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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more or less.  but I think she'd sell out Israel if it meant more power and wealth for herself.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Drifter
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And the won't be happy till they cause WWIII and get millions of people killed.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:20 | Link to Comment stormsailor
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don't forget to check your head-spacing

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 17:37 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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Yep..  My head is spaced out alright!  So I'm good!

It's all go, no-go from here now!  Or later...

And I'm sure gld I ordered that sett of 22lr dies!  Can't wait to use em cause I've saved every spent 22 case I ever shot and they filled up half the garage!

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 18:04 | Link to Comment tenpanhandle
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After the dies etc., what's it cost to reload a 22.  How 'bout the primers?  Didn't know you could reload those little rimfire jobbers.  With the inability to even buy 22 anymore (at the usual outlets) it does make sense to reload them.  Unfortunately, never saved a single piece of 22 brass in my life.

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 08:50 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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Umm   Ya think!!?? 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 21:59 | Link to Comment DeadFred
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Angela will calm down in a few days. Just ask Tokyo's governor-to-be. This is just another case of irrational menstruating females. 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:46 | Link to Comment q99x2
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You buckle up. I'm leavin.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:02 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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You Get Only 1 Tonne A Year Of Your FED GOLD Back...

 

It's jest a matter of settling the storage bill now.....let's see.....carry the 1.

Looks like you might owe us some gold on this deal....no worries....we'll take a check.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:02 | Link to Comment Pool Shark
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Off topic, but when is Tyler[s] going to mention that BitCoin is crashing after Mt. Gox announces a halt on all $US withdrawals?

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304680904579368851668713482?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304680904579368851668713482.html

http://fiatleak.com/

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:10 | Link to Comment john39
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yesterday

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:52 | Link to Comment Pool Shark
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Well, that's what I get for actually working yesterday and missing that post...

 [apologies to fonestar for re-opening old[ish] wounds] 

{Edit: "What's in YOUR wallet?"  Answer: it doesn't matter; I can't get it open...}

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:10 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:18 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Its just like having a super duper, heavilly encrypted account so no one can steal from you...in a virtual bank, that suddenly gets locked up by the virtual banker...in it?

Whocouldaseenthatonecomin? ;-)

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:07 | Link to Comment RafterManFMJ
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Q: What is the difference between buying BitCon and pouring your fiat down a rathole?

A: With the latter, you have a shot of getting your Benny Bux back if you defeat the rats nesting in your cash; with BitCon, not so much.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:34 | Link to Comment madtechnician
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The more uneducated drivel I read about from FUD spreaders just makes btc look even more bullish.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 23:42 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Some, these days, prefer the ethereal to the real, for some reason out of habit & convenience I suspect.

Its not for me to judge the rightness or wrongness of their endeavors, as I cannot know whats in their hearts (except for the obvious exceptions like fonestar) in duplicating what they say they abhor.

But I do know, what is real and what is not...and what has been instituted for their convenience.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:40 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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Besides BitCon being it's own form of a ponzi the government doesn't like the compettion either.

 

State of Florida Arrests High-Dollar Bitcoin Exchangers

 

Bitcoin Enables Drug Dealing, Just as Major Banks Do

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 23:33 | Link to Comment The Heart
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http://fiatleak.com/

What duh fish?

Is this saying all the bitcoins are going to china now?

Looks like that giant vacume sucking sound just before a major war breaks out...or sumtin else happens.

Hurry hurry...lots to cover up now.

Distraction number 235,789,326.89 coming any minute in 3...2...1.

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:54 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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these tweets and pictures sent out constantly by the U.S media just comes off like a bunch of whiny douchebags who expected the world to pamper them. 

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:02 | Link to Comment Cult_of_Reason
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"That's just what Putin wants" T-shirt
https://twitter.com/imogeneugenia/status/432142733629607937/photo/1

It's all U.S. media's fault.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:08 | Link to Comment john39
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gasp. a ring didn't light up! the fucking horror of it all!   its a fucking disaster.... oh the shame.

US media = a bunch of whiney bitches.  they should be ashamed.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:15 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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My in laws are russian. They moved here a long time ago. They still eat shitty food. They take a decent looking dish and then pickle it in some nasty looking jello. Why? Why do they do this? Then they pass around chicken gizzard and some sort of spleen dish. I used to believe they were fucking with me and ordered a pizza after I left. But this is their cuisine, and their custom. It is what it is and they don't give much of a shit what I think about it. If I don't like it I don't have to go there. They won't miss me. Maybe that's the theme to this olympics. It's refreshing.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:35 | Link to Comment Cult_of_Reason
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"That's just what Putin wants?"

Hotels without water, hackers aligned with the Russian mob, stray dogs... And how about Putin's spectacular corruption?

Sochi Olympic debt may break the regional economy (as Olympic debt broke Greece’s).

The Waste and Corruption of Vladimir Putin's 2014 Winter Olympics
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-02/the-2014-winter-olympics...

It's all U.S. media's fault? Riiiight...

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:37 | Link to Comment viahj
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only a deaf and blind American can have schadenfreude over Sochi's infrastructure shortfalls.  look around dumb ass, the US is falling apart and is installing a police state.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:55 | Link to Comment Cult_of_Reason
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You don't get it. The point is Sochi Olympic debt may break the regional economy (as Olympic debt broke Greece’s).

Nobody from the West will come to Sochi in the future as Putin planned when he borrowed and spend more than $50 billion.

Also, ask the opinionated and anonymous "Tyler Durden" who wrote the opinionated and twisted propaganda above to tell you about the recent Russia's failed bond auction.

Was the failed Russian bond auction also "just what Putin wants?"

Russia Just Canceled Another Bond Auction Because "That's just what Putin wants"
http://article.wn.com/view/2014/02/04/Russia_Just_Canceled_Another_Bond_...

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:43 | Link to Comment walküre
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The debt is staggering. Putin is in over his head. He's not a bad leader per se but he's not a financial magician. He doesn't have reserve currency or gold and he plays in the big league. The reason why he's going after the oligarchs is because he needs their money, their wealth to keep funding is legacy. He's not a descendant of the Czars but he behaves like one. The people are letting blood to finance this gig to the tune of 50 billion. I don't give a rats ass about the Olympic Village and the shabby construction or the miserable food. That's part of the culture and to be expected. The Russians aren't trying to sell the Village as prime real estate like the Canadians did. The Russian village will probably be blown up or dismantled soon after the games. That or simply abandoned. Why do rich Russians buy real estate in England of all places? The food there sucks but not as bad. The construction is solid though.

Putin is a central planner and his economics are centrally planned. He is egocentric and a bit of a narcissist. Has to involve himself in every detail of just about everything. I jokingly said to my wife last night that he probably wrote the speeches for the Russian official and the IOC official as well. Putin's speech was short, too short. The show was a magnificent display of 20th century Russian culture! Too bad many Russian people couldn't afford to see the show live.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Cult_of_Reason
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I agree, Sochi Opening Ceremony was spectacular and artistic with elegant ballet accompanied by the classical music.

Russian soprano Anna Netrebko was amazing!

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:19 | Link to Comment angryBuddhist
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"The debt is staggering."

That's a funny one!

Russia's debt o GDP is a "staggering" 8% . . .

The US debt to GDP is a not so staggering 110% ? ? ?

Russia is sitting on top of the lion's share of what remains of the world's natural resources. Anyone who foolishly thinks that Putin doesn't know this and anyone who foolishly believes that Russia is a sinking ship will be singing a totally different tune 10 - 20 years from now . . . trust me.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:02 | Link to Comment walküre
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Russia has defaulted on its debt before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Russian_financial_crisis

50 billion for the Games is not chump change for Putin either. He's lucky if Russia's ruble and the economy don't get dragged down into the abyss of IMF hell with the EM crisis.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 18:11 | Link to Comment AvoidingTaxation
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Yep. And so what. QE is better? ZIRP is better? 100Trillions of unfunded liabilities is better? 17.5T of actual debt is better? Where is the Gold in Fort Knox. My understanding is that Ametika has - (minus) 5000T of gold....

 

Cheers.

 

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 05:55 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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So have we.

Remember how we just didn't give people their gold back, or on demand all of a sudden a while back?

From an accounting perspective, that was a fuckin' default.  It took economists to convince the world it wasn't.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:35 | Link to Comment Leaf of Tree
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Construction in London is solid??

Don't make us laugh.

The Russian oligarchs buy real estate in London because London gives them protection against Putin.

Geneva/Zurich only offers Russian oligarchs bank accounts, but not protection.

 

If you want solid construction you buy in Munich and the whole of Bavaria, you buy in Switzerland, even Singapore.

 

But many buy in London:

- because London gives them protection

- because the masonic luciferian headquarters are in London

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:04 | Link to Comment walküre
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Same reason rich Russians bought Miami Beach and Upper Manhattan? Russian money is hidden everywhere just not in Russian bank accounts.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:49 | Link to Comment Joe A
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Here is an overview of some nations' debts:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html Have a look at Russia's debt.

now click on http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html to see what America's debt is.

The games were all paid for with Russia gas money.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Cult_of_Reason
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Re: "The games were all paid for with Russia gas money."

Moody's: "State-owned banks that provided loans or invested in the equity of companies that helped transform Sochi from a Soviet-era resort into a modern sports hub would see a negative impact on their credit rating."

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 05:43 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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right - debt is always good when our government, Fed, and chattering class support it as "stimulus" but bad when Putin does it to basically build a new tourist destination.

 

Got it.

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 06:02 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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Russia has some shit on its shoe.

We're rolling around in a giant pile of it, asking for more, and accusing anyone who suggests it isn't helping of fascist racism.

...  okay this offering was a little fast and loose, but I'll stand by it.

We're printing 75 bill a month to tread water, with nothing to show for it, you fuckin' jackhole.  China's forecasts are scaled back.

 

No one would be buying us debt if the fed wasnt printing to create artificial demand for it. 

 

Putin build a Potemkin village.

We built a Potemkin economy.

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:56 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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You should go ahead and take a trip to Detroit, or Washington DC.  Make sure to get far away from the tourist areas.

 

Good luck, troll.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 15:46 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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SE DC at night on a weekend.

The police won't go there in darkness. In the daytime. they have to be in

 a convoy for their own protection.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:38 | Link to Comment Uncle Sugar
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LOL - I was in Kemerovo (middle of Russia) a few years back and the locals took me to a new restaurant called "American Pizza".  I ordered 2 slices and it was the most god-awful thing I've ever tasted. I choked down the first slice to be polite and then left the other on the tray. The people I was with insisted I wrap it up and take it with me.  They loved it. Imagine if they tried NYC pizza?

The Matrix doesn't know what Tasty Wheat should taste like."

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Leaf of Tree
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So best food you have inUSA is Italian one?

Hahaaaa!!

 

And you criticize the Russians for lack of taste. 

Unfortunately for the Russians they do not have a strong italian Mafia presence there, so their pizza might not be as good as the united statean one.

You united stateans cannot criticize other's cuisine, considering that your contributions are cocacola and mc'donalds.

If I were an united statean I'd keep my mouth shut when the subject is cuisine 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 15:07 | Link to Comment Uncle Sugar
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Relax Anatoli - my point was we all have different tastes. I will give you the girls were extremely hot.  Yekaterinburg was A+.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:07 | Link to Comment Leaf of Tree
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Look Bubba' Joe, I'm not even Russian.

I'm from Romania and if you know something about history in EE, you would know us Romanians are quite anti Russia.

I don't particularly like Putin nor the KGBist government they have there

But...

I just find it funny when an united statean criticize other countries' cuisine, when it's a known fact that united statean cuisine is the lamest of them all in the world.

You are lucky you received immigrants from other countries other than Britain and Ireland during the years, immigrants that brought with them rich customs and culinary tradition.

Otherwise your favourite foods would be fish&chips.

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:15 | Link to Comment HardAssets
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Hmmm . . . this is interesting. 

I've found delicious, quality food in every country I've visited. I've also found terrible quality food in every country I visited. And price wasn't always the determining factor.

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 19:24 | Link to Comment angel_of_joy
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You are very wrong !!

The best steak in the world (and I mean here BEEF steak !) are that made in North America (less Mexico).

You could try beef steak anywhere in this world, it won't come even close to those made in the States or Canada (by the way, Romanian beef stake is a disaster; you guys make some amazing food out of pork, but you should forget about beef altogether...).

Also, there are still places where you can eat a decent burger in America. Ever tried Fatburger ?

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 00:51 | Link to Comment gallistic
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Hey Angel,

Take a trip south and find a place called Argentina to get a taste of steak heaven. Anyone who has been there knows exactly what I am talking about.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:01 | Link to Comment HardAssets
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You guys need an upgrade.

I was in Russia and Ukraine a few years ago and the food was excellent. As was the vodka and caviar.

It was a semi-official group trip, so maybe that had something to do with the better food and accomodations.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 23:23 | Link to Comment booboo
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I would not hit a bull dog in the ass with a New Yawk style pie.......haaaaaaaak patooie.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:49 | Link to Comment jbvtme
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fonz...classic shit

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:17 | Link to Comment niccolo and donkey
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Should we take your word for it or the Guardian's?

http://www.theguardian.com/spo...

"As snowboarders opened the action on the slopes of the Caucasus mountains high above Sochi, athletes reported excellent conditions and facilities, suggesting that in a sporting sense at least, the Sochi Games could still prove a success."

Excellent conditions and facilities.

Here's the what the head of the British delegation has said:

"But for competitors, it is a different story. Team GB chef de
mission, Mike Hay, said: "The engineering and construction that has gone on is amazing. The quality of the accommodation in the coastal village and the mountain village are as good as we've seen at any Olympic Games.

"We're quite spoiled about the proximity to the venues. The venues are stunning and state of the art and will be thrilling for our athletes to compete in."

The only people thus far upset are journalists in two hotels which seem to be subpar. Rosie DiManno from the very liberal Toronto Star has attacked these journalists as displaying "Ugly American Syndrome".

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 23:44 | Link to Comment The Heart
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"...like a bunch of whiny douchebags who expected the world to pamper them."

If it is mainly the lame stream media whores that are seeing this and reporting on it, then it is a sign of what they deserve. Poor reporting deserves poor living conditions. It would seem perfectly karmic, if were not strategically planned to be that way.

TRASHBAG REPORTING ONLY DESERVES A TRASH-BAG LIFE.

The biggest problem in the fast crashing country of America has always been the lies and dis-information of the lame stream media propaganda that is spoon fed by those money-god freaks who are responsible for the destruction of America from WITHIN.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:57 | Link to Comment Derezzed
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During the past 8 months, the US have been quite impeccable at infuriating Germany and bring them closer to Russia -- Brezyinski's worst nightmare

Congrats o/

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:35 | Link to Comment Volkodav
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Russian gas

Brzezinski gas

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:32 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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I think there was a lot more to the symbolism of the opening ceremonies than meets the eye.

 

Sochi Winter Olympics Opening Ceremony 'to Hail Stalin Era Industrial Revolution'

 

Setting aside the millions Stalin killed Russia has long been a thorn in the side of the New World Order. (For those who haven't seen this...)

 

Origins of the Cold War: How Stalin Foiled a ‘New World Order’

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:13 | Link to Comment Volkodav
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Kinda childish to even post this isn't it?

Is it important to you?

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:39 | Link to Comment TheMeatTrapper
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@ Cult_of_Reason:

In a previous thread you flat out stated for a fact that the Nuland call was fake. 

Now that even the State Department has admitted it was real, are you man enough to admit that you were full of shit and talking out of your ass? 

 

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 02:04 | Link to Comment BTFDemocracy
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That murky water is standard in Russia...

That is rust deposits, all the pipes are old and if they are not run constantly and water stands still it looks like that for first minutes. If you keep it running it stains everything orange and you can start using chemicals to clean that off... or just make the interior theme of bathroom/restroom orange and problem solved.

Many Russians got no problem drinking it, its just rust and won't kill you. 98% better than floride.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:55 | Link to Comment remain calm
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Merkel is furious, really. Well, Fuck you Merkel. And we have no idea where your gold is and just consider it a down payment on your sovereignty.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:02 | Link to Comment Cult_of_Reason
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And Fuck Putin!

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:35 | Link to Comment angel_of_joy
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You can't really fuck Putin.

On a second though, you don't really want HIM to start fucking with you.

Careful what you wish for...

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:21 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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A pretty good article, though it does lack the core beginning -- the US and NATO's corruption of the UN resolution regarding Libya.  "Protect civilians", as the price of Brent started to eat into the operation, became "bomb purely defensive Gadaffi positions and achieve regime change". 

Russia and China both voted for that resolution and when NATO completely corrupted it to justify what they did, Russia flat out told Hillary that's it.  You have lost any further cooperation from the number 1 oil producer on the planet.  You're fucked.  We will bury you, for real this time.

And I'm sure the gold wackos will try to corrupt this thread too.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:14 | Link to Comment Raging Debate
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Crash - I think the CIA in involment in Ukraine during the Orange Revolution did that. Then creep hedgemony with Georgia/Ossetia. My take is leave Ukraine alone, the risk is not worth the reward despite understanding the world and countries' energy needs must be met.

Putin is hard to read. But I do think this: He would kill every last person on this planet to ensure energy domination and so far his efforts at consolidating energy around the Russian sphere of influence has been well played. Putin should spend more time listening to Mededev that wants to use more modern methods of financial warfare and leveraging energy assets like the West does. But I could see tbe obstacles in realigning thinking after the looting under the oligarchs assisted by Western banking in the 1990's and influencing elections to get a drunk, greedy, slob like Boris Yeltsen.

I do respect Putin's national sentiment toward his "motherland", I do wish our politicians here in America were still nationalistic. But cooperation does still exist in the space program and recent EMP drills with America and also the Chinese.

Russia was once a defender of Europe from invading hoardes. Poking the bear a bit too much seems to result in very bad consequences.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 15:57 | Link to Comment Pope Clement
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Umm I think you may mean that the defenders were most likely the Polish and Prussian Knights - The Rus still seem to be haunted by the consequences of the brutal 'Tatar Yoke'....

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:26 | Link to Comment MarsInScorpio
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Crash:

 

Did you notice that instead of trying to corupt your thread, it was just ignored . . . ?

 

There's a message there for you to ponder.

-30-

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Double.Eagle.Gold
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<-- Germany wins WW2 V2

<-- US$ continues world domination

 

place your bets

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 17:50 | Link to Comment DrewJackson
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More importanly then getting their gold back, is getting US troops out.

 

Germany is still OCCUPIED.   

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:33 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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That is what is really pissing of Germans, they asked for their gold back and have gotten a few nuggets in return. The German street is not amused!

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:53 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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"Nuland was just expressing Americas sincere feelings towards Euroland."

 

She cares less than shit about the American feelings on anything.  She is a vengeful, small woman who thinks her actions are tough management.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:37 | Link to Comment lotsoffun
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wait till yellen gets going.  i can't imagine what is going to happen next. 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:38 | Link to Comment MarsInScorpio
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lotsoffun:

 

That's the consequences of letting Bitchs Inc. take-over anything.

 

First, they drive out all the hetero males and replace them with effeminate and gay men, as well as butch straights and lesbians. Straight women can stay, but only if they butch up or go down for for some same-on-same action. If they don't, their career climb is over.

 

Then it's time to enforce the Bitchs Inc. dress code: Short hair, mannish suits, pants for everything, nothing that reveals gender - and certainly nothing that reveals cleavage, fanny, or legs.

 

If Hills get in, watch the federal government go Bitchs Inc. pink. Metrosexuals, butch lesbians, compromised straight women, and butch haircuts for all.

 

Stay tuned - you will soon learn how the 5 - 7 percent of America that is gay can take over an entire country.

 

Bitchs Inc. rules with a psychotically sociopathic hand.

-30-

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:28 | Link to Comment Double.Eagle.Gold
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<-- Nuland comment starts WW4

<-- China ends all wars by closing US Chip production in Asia

 

Place your bets

(Note: WW3 happening now, that should make you feel better about how shitty you feel :)

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:35 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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Nuland is a neo-con whore. That is all you need to know. Israel is her main concern, and always will be.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 15:30 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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Nuland, being the consummate pol and crat (polcrat?), does not speak for me, so let me express my sincere thoughts--fuck the EU and the DC US too.

 

"Build a guillotine and they will be brought."

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:32 | Link to Comment ArkansasAngie
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Is this a case of cracks beginning to show amongst the elite beneath their polite veneer?

One can hope.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:35 | Link to Comment ElvisDog
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Astute observation. I think one reason the ponzi has gone on for so long is that the interests of the oligarchs in the various countries have been for the most part aligned. Now that those interests appear to be diverging to some extent things could start to happen.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:47 | Link to Comment viahj
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there is no honor among thieves, when backed into a corner, they go "Reservoir Dogs" on each other.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:16 | Link to Comment john39
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count on it as their plan for a glorious NWO falls hopelessly apart.  this is going to be fun to watch.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:18 | Link to Comment ArkansasAngie
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fingers crossed

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:35 | Link to Comment HardAssets
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"there is no honor among thieves, when backed into a corner, they go "Reservoir Dogs" on each other."

Astute observation.

Do any research on the personality of socio-path/psycho-paths and you'll find that absolute self centeredness and paranoia is part of their nature. They willl not stay united in a NWO because there will always be a Top Dog, but  none of the top tier will want to remain the underdogs.

It is also part of the socio-path/psycho-path personality to be destructive and self destructive. They have the reckless need to Max it to the limit' which may answer the question "Why, when they have practically unlimited money and power would they push things even further ?" 

Unfortunately, in the age of The Bomb - these psychos may destroy everyone on the planet trying to feed their limitless egos.

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:30 | Link to Comment Double.Eagle.Gold
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Nuland == one big crack, two holes easier to carried by winner of the war she just started...

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:33 | Link to Comment FlipFlop
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What's the problem? She is right? I mean Nuland.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:31 | Link to Comment Double.Eagle.Gold
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US Aholes should leave European Continent to the folks that live there, it's none of the USA's fucking business.

 

Hopefully China will move tank production into Mexico, with final assembly including 'test firing' perhaps in a northernly direction...

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:57 | Link to Comment Raging Debate
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Double, I agree with your first part - I am tired of being taxed
to defend Europe. Germany will do just fine when Russian tanks are rolling over them im droves. Russia has this interesting new particle weapon that will make that conquest easy. I am not sending my boys to fight or any leaders desire for conquest.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 15:48 | Link to Comment ElvisDog
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Don't be silly, why would Russia want to "roll tanks" into Germany? That would just mean more Euro mouths to feed. Their entire modus operandi (sp?) lately has been to use political means (i.e. talking) to get what they want.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:38 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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Russia has no interest in attacking Germany. In history, it is always the other way around. Germany or an alliance of western Europe invades Russia, kills millions, the Russians get really pissed off and drive right into the heart of Europe. Leave Russia alone, and they will leave you alone, and sell you gas, and buy your goods. Germans have nothing to fear from Russia, this is a giant lie.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 19:20 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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and that winter weather has made those europeans pretty challenged plowing into Russia

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 03:39 | Link to Comment Raging Debate
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Jack Burton - I agree and Russian and Germany are cozy right now. See mu earlier commentary on Russia. I suggested not poking the bear but i believe the West will keep doing it and my point was my sons wont be going to fight or die for a continued Western empire or an emerging Eastern one, or a vengeful Russia.

I was fooled for decades into hating Russians, Chinese, Muslims. Too much propoganda. I wish the best for all people these days. I am not pro-anybody, I want to enjoy the flavors of enjoyment various cultures offer and trade when it makes sense.

I wish the U.S. media didnt spend so much time on minor problems of Sochi. The Olympic games are about a healthy way to compete withou killing each other. The games are supposed to be sacrosinct. Like the "fuck the EU" comment I am dissapointed at the disrespect our American leadership is showing. I worry because the hubris may get 1/3 of ebery person on this globe killed.

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 10:42 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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I think I posted something about the time magazine cover for the winter Olympics. I agree, I wish they would shut the fuck up about the problems. Thou dost protest too much. My favorite was a piece about "the corruption." Like we don't have more than a few "gold" medals

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 23:57 | Link to Comment The Heart
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"I am not sending my boys to fight or any leaders desire for conquest."

WAR!!!!...for the empire of Oil!

MOAR WAR!!!

/sarc off

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:12 | Link to Comment stant
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cee lo green next up for a appointment?

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:39 | Link to Comment angel_of_joy
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That goes for you too Mutti.

Do you REALLY want to fuck Merkel ?? 

Are you that desperate ?

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 00:01 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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When you lay down with dogs...

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 10:43 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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...you better your company

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:26 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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She heard fuck the Emu and took it personally.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:34 | Link to Comment Mae Kadoodie
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FU to the EU from NU

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:30 | Link to Comment knukles
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Golly.  Community organizers and Progressives are so kind and caring about other peoples feelings, inclusiveness, diversity, lack of racial enmity, respect for others points of view, beliefs and cultures.
The world is so much better off with Dear Leader & Co.
Just think of what woulda happened had Sarah Palin been Vice President.
Thank the No-God for our State Bestowed Blessings
Do they take nail-gun donations?

Our side plays with Tiddlywinks
Vlad plays for blood.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:00 | Link to Comment shovelhead
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Considering that the State Dept recruits at the short bus stop, I'd say we're doing pretty good.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 14:14 | Link to Comment Urban Roman
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It takes a lot of skill and finesse to play tiddlywinks with him.

Don't you know how hard it is to squop those horsie-shaped ones?

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:29 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Hey Merkel, where's your gold?!  FUCK THE US!  Aha!

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:34 | Link to Comment ArkansasAngie
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Is it in Amerika's national interest to give'em back their gold?

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:46 | Link to Comment john39
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funny, who is the America that allegedly has the German gold?  Fort Knox is empty.  so who really has the gold...

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:00 | Link to Comment OceanX
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Is it ok to steal?  Would you mind someone breaking into your house and helping themselves?

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:39 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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That's why we have the Clintons to argue the definition of "is". and even if it "is" their gold, what difference does it make.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:19 | Link to Comment Urban Roman
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It was Shanghai'ed

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 13:48 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Hey Obama, where's your gold?! Fuck the US. It's in China and on Jamie Dimon's island.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:29 | Link to Comment DoubleTap
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Hey Sweet Tits, are you more pissed about this comment or not getting your cournties gold back?

 

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:32 | Link to Comment TrustWho
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If Reagan made his evil empire speech today, he would have to change sides.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 11:31 | Link to Comment knukles
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How far we have fallen........

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:06 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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Hopium keeps all afloat longer than expected..still much further to fall..

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:05 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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How far we have fallen...

 

Talked to a guy in Colorado yesterday. He apologized for being in a bad mood. He stated he just realized he was living in the USSR.

That's one.......325 million left to go.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:42 | Link to Comment Offthebeach
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USSA
United States of Socialist America.

Sat, 02/08/2014 - 16:42 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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Did you mean National Socialist? i.e. Nazi fascism?

Sun, 02/09/2014 - 00:08 | Link to Comment The Heart
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"Did you mean National Socialist? i.e. Nazi fascism?"

Blessings to ya, Jack.

Maybe really mean, UNited NAtional ZIonist Socialists of AmeriKa...or UNZSA?

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