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Angela Merkel Furious At Nuland's "Fuck The EU" Comments
A few short months after Putin cornered the US state department into a disastrous foreign relations dead end with the false flag Syrian escalation which achieved none of the predetermined nat-gas-to-Europe pipeline ambitions, instead alieanting the US from both staunch allies Saudi Arabia and Israel, the Russian president has just managed to inflict yet more pain on US foreign policy this time by infuriating (even more) a core US ally in Europe - Angela Merkel. Just two days after the phone recording of Victoria Nuland emerged in which she not only made it explicitly clear it was the US who was the puppetmaster behind the Ukranian opposition with the traditional CIA tractics as was expected all along, but also explained just how the US freels toward the EU with the now infamous "Fuck the EU" comment, Angela Merkel called the obscene remark "absolutely unacceptable."
And then, Nuland not knowing when to stop, proceeded to insert foot in mouth just a little deeper: ""I am not going to comment on private diplomatic conversations. But it was pretty impressive tradecraft. The audio was extremely clear," she told reporters during a visit to Kiev."
At least she indirectly complemented Putin on being smart enough to not only intercept what appears to have been an unencrypted phone call, but to release it at just the right time as the entire world's attention turns to Russia and by extension, the Ukraine.
Because in retrospect Putin does deserve praise: having won the Ukraine over Europe's cries of horror, he has also managed, in the past year, to alienate the US from Israel, Saudi Arabia and now, Germany. And all this without saying a single word, let along firing a shot.
So now that we know the apriori winner, the loser has no choice but to engage major damage control, which is borderline delusional. From Reuters:
[Nuland] said she did not foresee damage to relations with opposition leaders, saying they "know exactly where we stand in respect of a non-violent solution to the problem."
Of relations with Russia, she said Washington and Moscow had "very deep, very broad and complex" discussions on a range of international issues including Iran and "frank and comradely discussions" on Ukraine.
U.S. officials did not deny the authenticity of the recording and said Nuland apologized to EU colleagues for the comment.
Angela Merkel, already furious with Washington for several months over reports that U.S. officials bugged her own phone, found Nuland's remarks "totally unacceptable", a spokeswoman for the German chancellor said.
Yet, it's one thing to delude oneself that the US is still the undisputed world's superpower, it is far worse to express the kind of hubris that Nuland did, when she communicated and discussed confidential US geopolitical strategy on an unencrypted phone line - traditionally a fireable offense, if not worse.
In Washington, U.S. officials said Nuland and Pyatt apparently used unencrypted cellphones, which are easy to monitor. The officials said smart phones issued to State Department officials had data encryption but not voice encryption.
In Nuland's call, apparently recorded about 12 days ago when Ukrainian opposition leaders were considering an offer from Yanukovich to join his cabinet, she suggested that one of three leading figures might accept a post but two others should stay out. In the end, all three rejected the offer.
The biggest loser here, however, continues to be the Ukraine, whose people are facing a cold winter without assurances they will have Russian nat gas, and a government that is a chess piece in an ongoing power play between Europe and Russia, now that the CIA has taken a back seat. Incidentally, Russia made it quite clear that it demands Ukraine's full allegiance and as Russian finance minister Anton Siluanov told reporters overnight, Russia would withold its second loan payment to the troubled nation unless the Ukraine, which owes a “not insignificant” sum for natgas, makes the payment.
In other words, just like Greece has become a money "tolling" intermediary for the ECB and German banks, in which Europe pretends to bail out the crushed country when in reality it is just funding debt payments to its own banks, so the Ukraine has now become an intermediary, in which loan payments from Russia go to pay... Russia's Gazprom. And in the process Russia pulls the Ukraine from the European sphere of influence and back into that of the New Normal USSR.
Game, set, match Putin. Again.
But wait, there's more. Because Putin, unsatisfied with simple making a mockery of the US State Department, decided to rub it in some more. The Hill reports:
Rising animosity between the former Cold War powers was on full display Friday when Russia chose a former figure skater who tweeted out a racially charged picture of President Obama for the symbolic lighting of the Olympic cauldron.
Russian President Vladimir Putin hoped hosting the first Games since the 1980 Moscow Olympics, which the U.S. boycotted, would showcase a “new Russia” emerging from the ashes of the Soviet Union as he enters his 15th year in power.
Instead the U.S. and its western allies have consistently painted the picture of a corrupt autocracy.
The media's focus on the persecution of gays in Russia, terrorism and Russia's lackluster infrastructure – many hotels don't have potable water even though the Games are estimated to have cost more than $50 billion, the most ever – have further infuriated the Kremlin.
“I understand how the press here works. They need hot issues in order to be read, to have high circulation,” Sergey Kislyak, Putin's envoy to Washington, told The Washington Diplomat last month.
That's ok - as long as the US population can keep itself distracted from the sheer implosion of US standing internationally by looking at tweeted images of decrepit toilets and busted Sochi plumbing from a self-indulgent US press corps, and continue feeling good about itself, then all is well. After all, that's just what Putin wants.
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United States of National Socialist America? That is the US NSA???
Hmmmm...That has a funny ring to it.
Yes, starting with Reagan.
"How far we have fallen........"
and can't get up, where's the beef ???
Hmm, me thinks I a getting my old women mixed up here...
Rand Paul should make that speech today.
I would rather F the UN X 23!
Is this Obummer's fault or is it really Hillary's
Or ... are Amerika's elites simply getting too big for their own britches.
Fuck the EU !
Fuck the BIS !
Fuck the G30 (Group of Thirty Banker Wankers) !
Fuck the Rockefellers and Rothschilds !
Fuck the IMF and IBRD and IFC !
Fuck the European Monarchs !
Fuck the Anglo - American round tables !
Fuck the Vatican !
Add the World Bank to your list.
IBRD = World Bank
Hubris indeed, but also a lack of respect: "I am above the Law". We've let them, we have not done "much" to confront them and the Rand Paul's need to do their part by singing the Declaration of Re-Independence.
Rand Paul is in AIPAC's pocket. he is not going to do much to help the American citizens.
It's hopeless, better to just conceded to the progressives.
i wouldnt say hopeless, but voting for anyone sure seems to be.
You ain't gonna organize or fight for your liberty, So then accept what you get and don't bitch about it.
so fighting back against the NWO is limited to voting? I think you have it backwards... as long as you think that voting in their system is fighting back, you have already lost.
HOTT 598 Militia The Law
I think Arkansaw this Tears for Fears song "Everybody Wants to Rule the World sums it up: http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/x20x5b_tears-for-fears-everybody-want...
Lyrics: "Theres a room where the light wont find us, holding hands as the walls come tumbling down, when they do I'll be right behind you. So glad we've almost made it, so sad they had to fade it, everybody wants to rule the world..."
it looks like both sides were two sides of the same centrally planned coin.
There are no good sides today... Same as it was when Reagan delivered his lines. And to be sure, that's all he did... he delivered lines... just like our current presidential figurehead. Things are no different today.
Things are very different in America today than they were 40 years ago. Politicians couldn't get away with 1/2 the shit they pull over on us now. One reason is we edumacated a new generation of fruitflies that can't tell the difference between a reality show and reality. I'm starting to think maybe a world war and depopulation of the idiocracy is the answer.
That war might be good for us the rest of the people of this Planet, if the ones that die are all the united stateans and britishers.
"Because in retrospect Putin does deserve praise: having won the Ukraine over Europe's cries of horror, he has also managed, in the past year, to alienate the US from Israel, Saudi Arabia and now, Germany. And all this without saying a single word, let along firing a shot."
Its pretty easy when you're adversary is O'Barry.
I mean really, was Obozo stoned during Costas' interview or not?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3120556/posts
Other people are thrown in the hoose gow.
That's hysterical.
Thats what is described as Just Us ;-)
So that's where Costas got his pink eye from.
Bath House is always stoned. It makes for an easier entry for the Satanic Demon who owns him to get in and out.
Actually drunk and coked up Obomber seems almost human and I like him more like that. He seems less dangerous to humanity than when he's focused.
Yeah, I guess so generally.
But it really sucks if you happened to have been selected by him to go be an ambassador somewhere and tasked to reallocate some lethal munitions through Turkey into Syria, ya might not be able to get him on the line while your ass is hangin out there.
(Insert patriotic on-hold music here) ;-)
"he has also managed, in the past year, to alienate the US from Israel, Saudi Arabia"
in this regard, he did the American people a favor
For starters, Costas looks like that piece of shit John Dean with those ridiculous horn framed glasses. And it looks like BHO may have over did it with the Penicilin in anticipation of a big weekend with the boys.
Fuck you and the hammer and sickle you rode in on Angela.
You... realise she grew up under east german rule and is now, like über right wing in Germany?
She's faking it?
Hence my hammer & sickle reference. Right wing, not so much.
FUCK THE WORLD.......NEEDS A TOTAL RESET
True. Unfortunately, the same people who control this mess will most likely control the next one.
Coulld be, however remember what Ike said about planning don't mean shit after the first bullet is fired.
I 'freel' their pain.
She is just jealeous. The EU for her to fuck.
Putin and Russia's strategy seems to be to consolidate their own position and sit back and watch the Americans spend themselves into oblivion and point out America's serious leadership flaws and idiotic decision making (such as trying to start wars in Syria or staging coups in Ukraine). Watching that Psoki bitch from the State Dept give the presser the next day was embarrassing for the USA IMO, they are not only out of touch with their own people but the world too.
I wondered too if the American leadership has contemplated the fact that Russia must have a lot of other recorded phone calls that they could release at a moment's notice. I recognized that fact but I think the US government for the most part is so egotistical and up their own arses they might not be able to recognize the severity of the situation. The State Deptartment's response illustrated that they don't understand.
I don't believe in the red team blue team thing, but under Obomber and Hitlery the wheels really appear to be coming off. The US government is staffed solely by prep school ivy leaguers who believe that they are in the debating society and its all a big game and due to their position of power they find themselves in they can't lose having been born into the upper classes.
The important positions in the US government are filled exclusively by people who were born on third base and think they hit triples.
Maybe you're right about the Russians being in possession of dirty laundry; I sure hope so.
A friend sent me this by email but I have no idea how credible this source is or isn't:
http://www.turnerradionetwork.com/news/266-pat
I really hope that is credible, it at least makes sense.
Gotta have sumtin ta belibe in cuz all da mirror to reflect upon are broke.
You fukin nagger.
The USG is overrun by Statists. It really needs knocking down about 5 pegs so We The People can get back in.
Hopefully Snowman has a lot of files distributed with a dead man switch.
Chunga I got an email with that in it also so I went looking for info to see how credible it was since it was Turner and came up with some interesting info. you'll probably be interested in (opens in new windows).
House Members Renew Call For The Capture Of Snowden As “Traitor” and SpyMedia Blacks Out New Snowden Interview The Government Doesn’t Want You to see.
Told Ya So: NSA's Collection Of Metadata Is Screamingly Illegal
NSA infiltrates links to Yahoo, Google data centers worldwide, Snowden documents say
The NSA Admits It Analyzes More People's Data Than Previously Revealed
Meet The Chief Justice Of America’s Secret Supreme Court
That might be the same one I got.
At one time, long ago, did you frequent the pages of FR?
Yup lol was going to put a hint to you about that bet we got it from the same source :)
We sure had some good flame wars over there.
If I remember right I was sent to the penalty box for something. Nothing has changed; moar screaming for Red Team, Red Team! I'm finished with that crap. I sent you a ZH "contact request" but I still have no idea what it does.
GH- I think your theory is basically correct. The US has an enormous leadership vaccum. Any time truth is incovnenient to a regime, it's on borrowed time. It's a matter of when the US collapses, not if.
don't think I've seen many more cringe inducing press conferences than that given by Psaki. I mean obviously these people are very well trained to go in front of the cameras, spin & lie whilst looking angelic at the same time....but here you could sense that she was rattled. That bit about Nuland "having learned to curse whilst on a Russian ship 23 years ago". Just bizarre the whole thing.
Well I have to agree. Fuck the EU. And fuck the US of A. And fuck Reagan, since he was brough up. Fuck Russia. Fuck Republicans. Fuck Democrats. Fuck the Fed. Fuck the 1%. Fuck China. Fuck the big box stores. Fuck processed food. Fuck McDonalds. Fuck the freeloaders. There's plenty of fucking to go around so don't get your panties in a wad Angelia.
I loved Ronald Rayguns, not in a sexual way like you but especially when he kilt John Brown.
Circus.
Ave, Caesar, morituri te salutant.
Utterly amazing, raging mad about this and not a peep about not being able to get their gold...
They must be terrorists for wanting to get their money out of the US financial system.
Mmmm. She probably already received hers.
She wont get a chance to spend it.
Ally? Not anymore. The US deosn't need Germany as an ally since the collapse of the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. Many more pliant countries in Europe that are in dire financial situations so "leverage" is more easily applied.
maybe, but we are sending the tanks back that were removed about a year or so ago
prison for neocons and what they done to this country and the world. " The biggest loser here, however, continues to be the Ukraine" Don't think so.. The biggest loser is the people who refuse to recognize we are in an information revolution. US needs to wake up and take the funds away from CIA NSA.. Were they thinking that this is Iran of the 50's or Saudi Arabia since the 70's... Clandestine POS.... Yea Krugman dollar because of guns grow up. Oh yea Nuland is married to Kegan... You can pretty much be assured anyone associated with Yale or Brown is bad news... while the Harvard and Princeton educated are just greedy lunatics.
IMO, the biggest loser is Blyte, followed closly by the Biebs.
When asked to print up some Euros, Angela says "Fuck the EU".
For those of us who think the Imperium Americana has reach the end of its useful life, ya got to hand to the Big O, guy knows how to break it down, doesn't he?
It's surreal. It's like all the worlds .01% have been given scripts from Nostrodamus and Revalations and are enthusiastically playing their parts. Scaring my ass back to church.
for the -1; Was it the calling out the .01% you didn't like or the reference to getting insurance by going back to church? Just askin?
Good Grief. All this talk about intercourse, has got me fired up. I think I'll git some, tomorrow maybe.
If you git some, let me know and I'll do a story about you if you're so fucking good.
An unencrypted mobile phone call... From within Ukraine? Delusional is definitely the operative word here.
Seriously, America. Replace your leaders. Beyond driving the country into the ground they're making you a laughing stock.
If only Americans could hear the phone calls of certain people planning to make Obama the next president a few years ago.
Fuck the EU!
Now that is a statement that Merkel may not use but which she practices.
Germany is inflicting pain without gain thanks to its policies on all other member states.
Russia knows how to play chess better than the U.S...
The Grand Chessboard...pdf
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/brzezinsk_thegrandchessbo...
I'm a European and I hate the EU as much as the next ignorant Yank, but Americans like Nuland cursing the EU is a sure sign that this monster of neoliberal centralization is at least doing something right.
It's about time we kicked these insufferable coward Yank-babies out of our continent for good. Go play with your British poodle!
And we would like "this monster of neoliberalism centralization" out of our country, too. When you identify the intervention of the "Yanks" you need to be more specific; namely, the International Bankers working through the IMF, Federal Reserve, World Bank, and the full miitary power of the American Empire.
I am an American and I wish that you would kick the Americans out of Europe.
also, I hope the rest of the world would do likewise.
you Europeans donT have a military,
so you wonT be kicking noone outta nowhere.
Get used to it.
As long as Americans aren't attacking Europe, we'll be just fine. Nobody will sign up again to fight among Europeans to make some American industrials and bankers richer.
The use of military bases in Europe is enough.
Thank you for your support.
I would love to see however many hundred American military bases in Europe closed down. PLEASE kick the Americans out. You clowns do not deserve my tax dollars.
"tractics" and "freels"
Fat fingerr?
State has been steadily going downhill after Bath House and Sieg Hitlery got a hold of it.
I have a buddy implanted there, he is a YT, and he told me the racism by the incompetent blacks was getting out of hand. These new black hires are not the professional people he had worked with for many years, who were color-blind.
He thinks the entire Department needs a housecleaning due to the many employees there now want to destroy US credibility. It began, according to him, about a year after Bath House was elected. Hitlery also brought in huge numbers of queers, who then get sent to anti-queer countries. The place is a mess.
It is indeed alarming when one's own Foreign Office is attempting to overthrow its own government. I have known my associate since the Army days, and I find his opinion scary.
It is indeed alarming when one's own Foreign Office is attempting to overthrow its own government.
We are dealing with a political system gaining its support from mob democracy (socialism)…welfare voters, Third World influence, and public employee unions. The danger of overturn you mention, lakecity55, is being found throughout the American government, most telling in the leadership of the Republican Party.
Just to name one: For whom does John Boehner work – Boehner, who allowed the government to continue operating with full-funded Obamacare, who has plans for Third World ”path-to-citizenship” leading to full-fledged open borders and who leads the dissolution of any opposition to the Socialist government of Barack Obama?
Europe is in the grip of the Communists through their banker tyrants; but one entity in the area has escaped: Putin.
The European Union is controlled by self-identified Marxists as was the former Soviet Union. It is now the European Union vs the former Soviet Union, i.e., a burst of freedom.
In this game of world leader poker, one player plays for the interests of his country: Putin. The others, Merkel, Obama, et cetera, play their hand for the bankers. This does not mean Merkel's current position against immediate sanctions is not a welcome sign that identifies the U.S. position as a threat against Russian influence in the Ukraine.
Fuck DC.
I throughly enjoying listening to the Russian anthem from yesterday while replacing all the words I cannot understand with "Fuck the EU."
Makes me giddy. I am sure that is why they are saying.
The Taliban, Al Qadea, any any gangster worth his salt figured out long ago not to talk shit on the phone, and post Snowden so has the whole world. Apparently the State Department is still working on it.
Mr Putin, how many more interesting telephone conversations do you have for us to hear?
I'm sure Angela was really hurt and even enraged by the terrible insult directed towards the European Union, not her country Germany, and this is not just lip service. After all, this is on a completely different level than the fact that the Americans have been tapping her communications, and all top level German communications, for who knows how long.
Fuck Angela Merkel then! Maybe that suits her better!
I'm feeling a bit nauseous now. I think I might throw up.
Exactly right. Does anyone believe Merkel is anything more than a patriotic German trying to keep Europe together in order to secure and further Germany's interests?
But Nuland is right. FUCK EU!!!
Arrest and quarantine these "fucks" before more of the same happens!
It is contagious and it certainly is spreading!
This has to be either the worst or best reality based satire ever played and the best part of all is that the American people don't even care!!!!
Meanwhile tanks are quietly heading back to Germany....... The Nuland debacle, though embarrassing, may save us from getting deeper into the no win Ukrainian situation. One has to wonder how much of Merkel's complaining is political posturing, or if she ever really intends to do something real, like remove the US welcome mat.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/02/03/american-tanks-return-to-e...
It's rather simple.
She wants all of her Country's GLD repatriated NOW!
at least she didn't say: "screw that german cunt and the horse she rode in on".
But... She might as well have!
Putin had a Russian Merkel look-a-like hoist the Russian flag at the opening ceremony of the winter Olympic games. He is such a bitch.
lol
Still can't believe two State Department heads had a conversation like that in a foreign Country while on "official business" discussing the details of their plans for more deliberate economic hardship, disruption and destruction of the host Country in question while not using an official phone.
Who needs Ed Snowden or for that matter the CIA and NSA when our State Department leadership is that fucking stupid?
Be it not forgot that marvelous rant by The Dick
Cheney, that is; "fuck you, fuck you, FUCK YOU"
Spoken on the floor of the US Senate when questioned by another Congress Critter.
Nuland: Poster child for "The Ugly American".
Yes, Merkel has just realized, just now, that the CIA is really, really bad. Good job. Carry on, genius.
i wouldn't fuck either one of those skanks (nuland, merkel), not even on a bet
I think Merkel knows who butters her muffin.
http://www.businessweek.com/videos/2014-02-04/mercedes-sets-january-u-do...
So who intercepted this phone call? The Russians? Putin seems to always be one step ahead and able to make the US gov look like idiots. That's what happens when you actually have an intelligent person/people running a country.
Angela! If you didn't see this coming you're a dumb bitch (and should resign!)
Got your German gold yet? Nope! Think the U.S is a friend of the EU? Nope! Got your own phone bugged by the NSA? Yep! Do you know anything? Nope. You're a dumb fucking bitch? Sure looks like it!
Angela! If you didn't see this coming you're a dumb bitch (and should resign!)...
Ever ask yourself how the little girl from Hamburg was able to "move back and forth" between East and West so easily?...
"Merkel's father studied theology in Heidelberg and, afterward, in Hamburg. In 1954 her father received a pastorate at the church in Quitzow (near Perleberg in Brandenburg), which then was in East Germany, and the family moved to Templin. Thus Merkel grew up in the countryside 80 km (50 mi) north of East Berlin. Gerd Langguth, a former senior member of Merkel's Christian Democratic Union, states in his book,[17] that the family's ability to travel freely from East to West Germany during the following years, as well as their possession of two automobiles, leads to the conclusion that Merkel's father had a "sympathetic" relationship with the communist regime, since such freedom and privileges for a Christian pastor and his family would have been otherwise impossible in East Germany." -Angela Merkel Wikipedia
Answer: She "saw it coming" is paid to look the other way, and was groomed to do so!
To put it brutally : the US state department fell into the "counter NSA" intelligence trap set by Putin---yes the FSB is still operational and Snowden has shown that the NSA knows better than anybody else in the whole wide world to shoot itself in the foot ---All the while the NSA sings : "yes we scan Mutti down in her undies and SO WHAT?"; knowing full well the prevalent arrogance of this administration (like all past ones as well) that treats its "allies" like doormats.
And Putin has the last laugh once again while he lords it out at Sochi.
I'm sure he is telling Mutti Merkel : You're missing all the fun by not being here, tied up in American "sour pussy" knots of --fuck ya EU-- , so prevalent in Obammy's way of doing things.
Is the Euro being setup as the new reserve currency?
Can Obama terminate anyone from his government empire?
Merkel must not be too pissed. She didn't strongly condemn the phone call.
Merkel furious bout Murica ?? Think again.
It's a NSA put-up job.
For Merkel to be furious about something you would have to grant her that she has got any passion for anything. She does not. Merkel is Helmut Kohl the second, she cares about one thing: Staying in power. She will do whatever it takes. A little bit of pretending she actually cares about the EU fits right in.
"[Nuland] said she did not foresee damage to relations with opposition leaders"
Perhaps not. But do these opposition leaders foresee damage to their relations with the patsies out on the street, who risk getting beaten up (or worse) so that the US foreign policy establishment can use them to get under Putin's skin?
Fuck the EU...
And who cares what Angela "Holocaust propagandist" Merkal thinks.
She's nuthin but a pawn of international Jewry.
Boo fricken hoo, Angie.
Ooooo...FURIOUS...OOOOOOOOoooo...whaddaya gonna do about it?
Sorry Angela, all is "fair" in a currency war.
Nuland probably said F the EU over the sporadic threats from them to boycott the, you know, illegal occupation and settlements. Ambassador Pyatt has seemingly done little in Ukraine but meet with "Jewish leaders" - really. Jews are about 0.7% of Ukraine, and there's story after story after story of him meeting with them. Now, I'm not saying he shouldn't meet with them, he should {there is a lot of genuine anti-semitism in Ukraine, and there was a famous case actually involving the batshit crazy blood libel thing}- but he shouldn't, you would think, be meeting with a group representing less than 1% of the country as much as he has in his role.
Since arriving in Kyiv in August 2013, Pyatt has spent more time currying contacts with Ukraine’s Jewish community than in talks with members of the Ukrainian government. Pyatt is seen more at synagogues, seminars on anti-Semitism, and memorials than in Ukrainian government ministries or even Ukrainian Orthodox or Catholic churches. At the same time, Pyatt gives quiet support to the umbrella protest organizations that include FEMEN, naked women protesters who have aggressively attacked symbols of Christianity throughout Ukraine, including cutting down a Christian cross in Kyiv.
-Ukraine is a neocon testing ground for Russia
And is it normal or appropriate for an ambassador to be meeting with opposition leaders a month into his new job?
Of course, Nuland is a ziocon, married to one of the high priests of zioconservatism. In the beginning of her phone call, she references speaking {and coordinating} with Jeff Feltman, who doesn't seem to have any particular expertise about Ukraine, but is also a reliable ziocon. And we know Biden is a spineless puppet of AIPAC.
Merkel also apparently backs Klitschko,
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/eu-grooms-boxer-vitali-klitsc...
Nuland apparently doesn't. Whether she thinks this is because he's too stupid or politically unsavvy, or because he's too obviously Jewish (wiki describes him as Ukrainian Orthodox, but he's certainly of at least partial Jewish heritage and looks it) which she might fear {rightly} could alienate the Ukrainian nationalists, or simply because she figures he's too close to Germany - who knows.
Jews are less than 1% of Ukraine's population, but are 3 of the 4 billionaires, run the central bank, the largest private bank, and many if not most of the biggest newspapers and tv stations (e.g. Billionaire media moguls Gregory Surkis, Victor Medvedchuk, Vadim Rabinovich and Victor Pinchuk). Jewish power is far, far beyond their numbers in Ukraine and rivals their power in the US
Naturally, this is never covered in the press, and I mention it because Ukraine's nationalists are certainly aware of it - yet a lot of the protesters are also Jewish.
It's a strange mix, is the point:
http://www.geocurrents.info/geopolitics/protest-movements/strange-bedfel...
https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2014/01/29/18749979.php
Lots of stories about rising acts of antisemitism, particularly an attack on a graveyard - but left out of these accounts was the fact that at least in that case, it was in response to desecration of a statue of Jesus by Jews... but I guess you don't call it a "hate crime" when its done by Hasids.
Indeed, much of the anti-Jewish feeling doesn't come from out of nowhere, but is tied to anti-Russian feeling. That is, the Russian/Bolshevik role in Ukraine's subjugation and famine, and the disproportionate role of Russian and Ukrainian Jews in those events.
This sort of complicates the story of course, so one approach is to simply not talk about it, or dismiss such talk as "anti-semitic" instead of just admitting facts while promoting the radical notion that what someone's grandparents did to yours doesn't have fuck all to do with what they themselves are doing.
Of course, don't look for a published English translation of 200 Years Together anytime soon, although it should probably be required reading on understanding at least a major part of what's going on over there.
I have to believe Nuland {and her husband} are, understandably, concerned with the anti-Jewish sentiments of many of the nationalists, but apparently ripping Ukraine away from the Russian s.o.i. and getting them under the thumb of the IMF regime is more important.
After all, the oligarchs can always hide their money and fuck off to the UK, the US, or Israel.
JC
Good information per your usual. But please don't ever show that picture of Frau Merkel again!
I guess I don't fit here with Tyler, because I actually think "Really impressive tradecraft" showed class. The FSB executed a brilliant play in the Great Game and it would be not only petty but stupid for the other side not to acknowledge it.
As for Mutti, I gave up on her when, after the Bradley Manning dump, what Germany chose to go ballistic about was the US ambasssador saying that one of her ministers "wasn't experienced enough" for the job. Come on people, that kind of insight is what we pay our amabassadors for. I sincerely hope Germany's guy in DC has had similar things to say about some of the clowns we've put on the cabinet.
There was serious dirt in that set of cables, but "not experienced enough" was not part of it.
I guess I don't fit here with Tyler, because I actually think "Really impressive tradecraft" showed class. The FSB executed a brilliant play in the Great Game and it would be not only petty but stupid for the other side not to acknowledge it.
As for Mutti, I gave up on her when, after the Bradley Manning dump, what Germany chose to go ballistic about was the US ambasssador saying that one of her ministers "wasn't experienced enough" for the job. Come on people, that kind of insight is what we pay our amabassadors for. I sincerely hope Germany's guy in DC has had similar things to say about some of the clowns we've put on the cabinet.
There was serious dirt in that set of cables, but "not experienced enough" was not part of it.
Sorry, Angela!
The comment was 100% warranted.
The Ukranian opposition to Putin's takeover of the country is called 'Euromaiden'. The Zeropeans wooed them with promises, but when the going got sticky, they sent some platitudes. Nuland was quite correct to say "Fuck the EU". In fact, there is no situation in which contempt for the EU is not the correct position; it is like betting that, if Obama said it, it's a lie.
Merkel is an Ostie, from the former East Germany. You should trust her like you would trust any Stasi agent.
This needs to seen in the other light too...diplomacy, intelligence and modern approaches to PR amalgamating into one. What if Merkel knew all along that the recording was to be released?What if these things are just excuses to make the process of splitting with an ally seem justifiable to the public (rather than the split being due to ally being broke and losing dominance)?
Social media, and the manipulation of it, is proving itself to be absurdly critical to how politics is evolving, so i wouldn't put it past the Germans to seize this opportunity for a different position. Im just saying, beware of politicians moralising, claiming offence and giving sermons about bad words.
Putin: "Knight to queen's bishop 3."
DC US: "White checker to 15."
"New term: Guillotine eligible"
Hey Spirits beneath Yellowstone - will you please hurry it up already? It's time for a full earth re-set. Let's start again with one-celled organisms and see if we can get it right. Unlikely of course - getting it right, that is.
Merkel: "Fuck Obama! Fuck the NSA! Fuck the FED! Fuck the USA and give us our fucking gold back!"
The only question that really matters is whether the capital of the 4th Reich will be Berlin or Moscow.
I wonder if Putin & Russia was responsible for the leak, I'm sure other entities had the ability to serendipitously intercept & record calls.
Seems just as likely to come from a faction of the NSA that is sympathetic with the Sauds,
heck, might even be a faction of the NSA whose patrons are the Sauds.
Bottom line? Putin wins. AGAIN.
This is now getting a tad embarrassing.
Fuck You Angela wilder beast.
Putin seemed like the statesman regarding Syria. The Obama admin handled it like a pack of baffoons.
What do expect from a Chicago machine politician like Obama? Washington has transformed into the Chicago political machine .
Fuck Merkel.
Stupid ugly bitch is probably sitting there next to a 55gallon drum of half-eaten lobster parts with her dress covered in butter gasping for air as she screams for an O2 tank.
Yes FUCK Merkel indeed, mate, but NOT with MY Dick thank you very much.
Yes, I agree with Merkel, she could have said, "Have sexual relations with the EU"... but then again the Bill Clinton comment about "not having sexual relations with that woman" could have confused the whole thing of what actually was meant, especially if the word "Is" was involved.... Yes.. Fuck the EU was more appropriate.
None of this would stand with a Bush in office. "This will not stand". Jeb for president!
FOX news must be pissing themselves. America's most trusted news source. How America has fallen into a cess pit of ignorance!
If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier... as long as I'm the dictator. hehehe - George W. Bush
Did Berlusconi not say that Merkel had an unfuckable ass? It must get a bit annoying with clows like that.
Did Berlusconi not say that Merkel had an unfuckable ass? It must get a bit annoying with clows like that.
Nudelman! Remember only the best and brightest come from Ivy League schools... never any question about that.
Coming from a country that cost the world about a zillion lives throughout the 20th century, Merkel should just shut the fuck up.
I do not understand why ppl are making a fuzz out of this: Mutti is so pro Obama, that she is forced ( after the NSA story) to show her Entrüstung. Only in this context does it make sense. Difficult to understand? Half life of this furious Angela story? 12 h? Max.
There is no definite article (the) in front of Ukraine. "Ukraine not weak; Ukraine strong."
Unless Nuland, Merkel and Putin are just play acting, it kind of looks like that New World Order/One World Government/Grand Cabal meme, so popular in the Comments Section here, might be on hold. Perhaps the reality is nobody likes anybody else, nobody ever liked anybody else, and everybody operates purely in his or her own self-interest. On top of that, nobody is particularly competent, or rather, there are no superhumans who can orchestrate with any degree of regularity all of the variables and interactions at play in a seven billion person, two hundred nation, multi-ethnic world. To those whose shudder every time another conspiracy is put forth as some supposed insight into how the world “really works”, all of this mistrust, backstabbing, and righteous indignation is kind of, well, refreshing to see, as it at least temporarily tosses egg in the face of the subscribers to the Grand Cabal meme.
Now, just for kicks, let’s see Merkel squirm when it is revealed that her BND, which comes directly under her office’s control, bugs EU central command and its major leadership (got to get a heads up on how much Germany might have to chip in to bail out Greece, after all). Is that what the old term "what's good for the goosestepper is good for the gander" means? Or how about that all of the metadata the NSA has on EU citizenry came not from direct NSA eavesdropping, but from direct local service eavesdropping everywhere from Merkel’s Germany to Rajoy’s Spain, and it was just subsequently shared with the NSA. Oh, and what phone conversations might Edward Snowden have the transcripts of that would prove embarrassing to Vladimir Putin? Perhaps Snowden will wait on those before posting on YouTube.
The Olympics are not the only international Great Game.
Totally agree.
I'd also note that Nuland was talking about getting the UN to intervene in order to get Ukrainian regime change to happen faster. As if the UN secretary general is just a US errand boy. Damages both the credibility of the EU and UN.
My take is that One World is a very enticing meme to individual elites because they think they may be in on it. For it to work, someone's going to have to be left out.
Fuck the USSA.
They meddle in lives of average citizens with excessive bureaucratic rules that harm employment and the economy.
They meddle in other coubtries.
What happened to our beloved Republic?
I SEE 4 RINGS....4 RINGS!!!!
Audi is going to sue.
"staunch allies Saudi Arabia and Israel"? seriously? When have either of those two countries actually fought alongside the US. Getting a country to fight others for you, subverting its constitution and conducting false flag atrocities against its people are not the normal qualifications for being a "staunch ally"!
He Angie, did you get your gold back yet???
Germany should be angry .. the Bozos in Wash. D.C. are dishonest .... the American People are OK , it is the Washington D. C. / Hillary Clinton bunch that screws things up... End The Fed.