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"Breathtaking" Corruption In Europe

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Submitted by Pater Tenebrarum of Acting-Man blog,

A recent article at the BBC discusses the findings of a report by EU Home Affairs commissioner Cecilia Malmstroem on corruption in the EU. According to the report, the cost of corruption in the EU amounts to €120 billion annually. We would submit that it is likely far more than that (in fact, even Ms. Malmstroem herself concurs with this assessment). This is of course what one gets when one installs vast, byzantine bureaucracies and issues a veritable flood of rules and regulations every year. More and more people are needed to administer this unwieldy nightmare of red tape, and naturally the quality of the hires declines over time due to the sheer numbers required.

Moreover, many small to medium sized businesses would probably not be able to survive if they didn't occasionally bribe officials. Big business considers bribes a perfectly normal cost of business anyway, especially when the business concerned involves milking tax cows. As you will see further below, the defense business – or better the war racket – is especially prone to corruption. Tax payers of course end up paying every cent. Another sector that is apparently subject to widespread corruption is health care – which should be no surprise, since health care provision is an almost fully socialistic enterprise in Europe. Bribes may well mean the difference between life and death in some instances. You will probably also not be overly surprised to learn that there was VAT fraud amounting to €5 billion in the bizarre and totally ineffective and useless 'carbon credits' market, which has turned into a boondoggle of amazing proportions. There's simply no other way of making a mint in that market we suppose. From the BBC:

“The extent of corruption in Europe is "breathtaking" and it costs the EU economy at least 120bn euros (£99bn) annually, the European Commission says. EU Home Affairs Commissioner Cecilia Malmstroem has presented a full report on the problem.

 

She said the true cost of corruption was "probably much higher" than 120bn. Three-quarters of Europeans surveyed for the Commission study said that corruption was widespread, and more than half said the level had increased.

 

"The extent of the problem in Europe is breathtaking, although Sweden is among the countries with the least problems," Ms Malmstroem wrote in Sweden's Goeteborgs-Posten daily. The cost to the EU economy is equivalent to the bloc's annual budget. For the report the Commission studied corruption in all 28 EU member states. The Commission says it is the first time it has done such a survey.

 

National governments, rather than EU institutions, are chiefly responsible for fighting corruption in the EU.

 

[…]

 

In some countries there was a relatively high number reporting personal experience of bribery. In Croatia, the Czech Republic, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Romania and Greece, between 6% and 29% of respondents said they had been asked for a bribe, or had been expected to pay one, in the past 12 months. There were also high levels of bribery in Poland (15%), Slovakia (14%) and Hungary (13%), where the most prevalent instances were in healthcare.

 

[..]

 

Last year Europol director Rob Wainwright said VAT fraud in the carbon credits market had cost the EU about 5bn euros.”

(emphasis added)

And that is merely what they actually know about. Remember, there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns here as well, and they probably dwarf what is actually known. One gets an inkling of how big the problem may really be when considering the case of Greece.

 


 

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The EU corruption map according to the official report – via BBC.

 


 

Bribes Exceeding Greek Official's Memory Storage Capacity

Greece is of course a special case in terms of official corruption. If you ever wondered how the country could go bankrupt in such short order after joining the euro zone, wonder no longer. Here are a few excerpts from a recent article in the NYT about a lower level official in the defense ministry who received so many bribes that he cannot even remember them all anymore. The amounts involved are astonishing:

“When Antonis Kantas, a deputy in the Defense Ministry here, spoke up against the purchase of expensive German-made tanks in 2001, a representative of the tank's manufacturer stopped by his office to leave a satchel on his sofa. It contained 600,000 euros ($814,000).

 

Other arms manufacturers eager to make deals came by, too, some guiding him through the ins and outs of international banking and then paying him off with deposits to his overseas accounts.

 

At the time, Mr. Kantas, a wiry former military officer, did not actually have the authority to decide much of anything on his own. But corruption was so rampant inside the Greek equivalent of the Pentagon that even a man of his relatively modest rank, he testified recently, was able to amass nearly $19 million in just five years on the job.”

One certainly wonders what more powerful officials were able to skim off. Unfortunately, corruption is so widespread and reportedly involves the highest echelons of the bureaucracy and the body politic in Greece, so that one must expect that we will never find out. No wonder there is a lot of tax evasion in Greece: who wants to hand over his hard earned money to such a gang of thieves? It is like paying off the mafia.

Meanwhile, the companies paying the bribes are of course just as guilty, and many of them come from countries that are themselves ranked relatively low on the corruption scale – e.g. Germany and Sweden. It seems to be an 'opportunity makes thieves' type situation.

“Never before has an official opened such a wide window on the eye-popping system of payoffs at work inside a Greek government ministry. At various points, Mr. Kantas, who returned to testify again last week, told prosecutors he had taken so many bribes he could not possibly remember the details.

 

[…]

 

Mr. Kantas's testimony, if accurate, illustrates how arms makers from Germany, France, Sweden and Russia passed out bribes liberally, often through Greek representatives, to sell the government weaponry that it could ill afford and that experts say was in many cases overpriced and subpar.

 

The 600,000 euros, for instance, bought Mr. Kantas's silence on the tanks, which were deemed of little value in any wars Greece might fight, according to Constantinos P. Fraggos, an expert on the Greek military who has written several books on the subject. Greece went ahead and bought 170 of the tanks for about $2.3 billion.

 

Adding to the absurdity of the purchase (almost all of it on credit), the ministry bought virtually no ammunition for them, Mr. Fraggos said. It also bought fighter planes without electronic guidance systems and paid more than $4 billion for troubled, noisy submarines that are not yet finished and sit today virtually abandoned in a shipyard outside Athens. At the height of the crisis, when it was unclear whether Greece would be thrown out of the euro zone and long before the submarines were finished, the Greek Parliament approved a final $407 million payment for the German submarines.”

 

[…]

 

The Defense Ministry is hardly the only ministry suspected of being a hotbed of corruption. But the Defense Ministry makes a particularly rich target for investigators because Greece went on a huge spending spree after 1996 when it got into a low-level skirmish with Turkey over the Imia islets in the Aegean Sea.

 

One former director general of the Defense Ministry, Evangelos Vasilakos, calculated that Greece spent as much as $68 billion on weaponry over the next 10 years, much of it borrowed money. To win these deals, which involved the approval of military and Defense Ministry officials, as well as Parliament, arms dealers probably spent more than $2.7 billion on bribes, according to Tasos Telloglou, an investigative reporter for the Greek daily newspaper Kathimerini, who has written extensively on the subject.”

 

(emphasis added)

Buying $68 billion worth of largely useless weaponry is certainly quite a feat for a country of slightly over 11 million inhabitants. The Saudis may well be able to top that on a per capita basis, but they have a lot of oil money and haven't required a bailout from anyone. Greece was not able to actually afford these expensive toys. 

Even if the weapons were in perfect working order, this buying spree wouldn't make any sense. Is Greece really going to fight a war with Turkey, a NATO partner? The very idea is absurd. Since we can rule this possibility out, what on earth are the weapons good for?

We can hereby amend Randolph Bourne's famous saying: 'War is the health of the State – and its minions and suppliers'.

 


 

Greek tank

Say hello to a white elephant in the Greek shrubbery.

 

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Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:16 | 4420184 LawsofPhysics
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Corruption?  The people of earth haven't seen anything yet...

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:18 | 4420192 Sudden Debt
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and we gonna keep it that way...

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:31 | 4420241 Boris Alatovkrap
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Corruption is from culture of organization, not size. However, corrupt bureaucracy is grow rampant like tumor, so corruption is more see in large bureaucracy. After 20 year of "Euro" experiment, Boris is ponder, ponder, what is was point!? Is was not EU for purpose of more efficient transaction and trade? Corruption is antithesis to efficiency, no?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:08 | 4420352 edotabin
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Yes, it is make corruption efficient :-)

and this is nothing...........Telling you, unless you have seen it and lived it, a normal mind cannot begin to imagine the amount of corruption in a country so small.

Let's see what happens in the US when/if the $ starts having troubles. Now they can just print away 2.3 trillion here a trillion there etc.etc. What if you can't? Then, watch the light shine and the roaches run.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:10 | 4420578 rocker
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Sounds like buying Europe is a good move. The more corrupt the better.

Just look at the (us) U.S. market and Banks. Unlawful Greed is Good, right?

Our markets, Banks and Fed are just booming up, up and away.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:31 | 4420677 Oldrepublic
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instant third world!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:33 | 4420242 TheTmfreak
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Corruption is a LOADED word. Generally people view it as a non-legal or extra-legal transfer of money. What happens when its legalized?

Does putting a toll on a bridge via government, any different than police standing on a bridge requesting money? Uhm no. Its a difference of process.

What about major corporations all over the world doing whatever the hell they want, legally because the laws are written in their favor? Guess that's not corruption... PFF give me a break.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:28 | 4420226 DoChenRollingBearing
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Corruption in Europe?

Quelle surprise!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:34 | 4420244 Boris Alatovkrap
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When business is conduct by nod and wink because feckless handshake is of no worth.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:58 | 4420309 Beam Me Up Scotty
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"Corruption in Europe?

Quelle surprise"

Its about as surprising as the Chris Christie bridge scandal.  Its like the media is shocked, SHOCKED, that such a thing as political payback happens in this country.  Thing is, thats like the tip of the pin, on the tip of the iceberg in terms of the political payback corruption that happens.

I'm certainly not SHOCKED!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:16 | 4420615 DoChenRollingBearing
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Me either, Scotty.  Here or there.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:45 | 4420744 scrappy
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Sick of corruption?

Do something then.

http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/mission-statement

If we build a Grand Jury, the people will come.

Join us.

http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/

What the hell has happened to the rule of law?

Truth is stranger than fiction.

http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/what-happend-constitution

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:41 | 4420254 gjp
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Thanks, BBC and NYT for exposing that dreadful European corruption.  What criminals they are, really.  120b Euros per year, you say?

And how might that compare to the 'legal' corrpution on Wall Street and in the City?  Well, look at the size of QE for starters (direct central bank printing straight to the pockets of financial insiders), looks like you've got a slightly bigger problem ...

The hypocrisy of the anglo-saxon media is sickening.  Corruption is everywhere, but the financial capitals are truly the belly of the beast, so get off your fuckin high horse.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:48 | 4420290 Leaf of Tree
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What Mediterranean and Latin countries generally call corruption, anglo-saxon countries call social-networking.

Examples of western social-networking are the Jesuit Brotherhood, the masonic lodges, the Skull&Bones fraternity.

That is why so called Western "free countries" rank as not corrupt.

Ex prime-minister Adrian Nastase of Romania has spent 1 year in jail and now in another case he was sentenced  to other 4 years.

Other high ranking politicians are also in jail like for example ex Transport Minister, Relu Fenechiu was sentenced to 5 years in jail.

Former Sports Minister, Monica Ridzi was also sentenced in jail to 5 years.

Sorin Ovidiu Vantu, a Romanian clone of George Soros is in jail. Already he did 3 years.

Gigi Becali, owner of Steaua Bucharest Football Club & former MP and MEP,  is in jail serving a 3.5 years.

 

Can you fucking westerners say the same about your big politicians and business men?

Any Tony Blair, Bush, Clinton, Schroder, Sarkozy, western politicians in jail?

 

Westerners are hypocrites who like to label Eastern Europeans as corrupt, when Western corruption is way high. Even religiously high.

But do not let yourself be affected by the negative image these cocksuckers from the West paint us Eastern Europeans. It keeps them actually blind to their own problems.

Their dishonesty and hypocrisy is their doom.

Add to that the muslimization and pussyfication of their countries and they're set to fail big time in the fast approaching future.

 

Patience friends in Eastern Europe!

We are in a war dear Eastern Europeans with these fucks from the West.

Like Sun Tzu said: know yourself and know your enemy well.

And we sure do know these fucks from the West pretty well. And the funny thing is, they not only don't have a clue about us Eastern Europeans, they also do not know themselves.

Their "I wanna feel good" attitudes are actually working in our favour.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:59 | 4420311 Mister Kitty
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Corruption in Europe?  That's hard to believe.  Bitches.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 04:30 | 4423099 Eos
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UKRAINE - 100%, rest of Europe are still pussies

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:15 | 4420189 Sudden Debt
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10 - 19?!?!?!?
HA!!! THEY SURE DIDN'T ASK ME ABOUT THAT CRAP!!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:20 | 4420196 SquirrelButtDan
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In other news, the grass is green and the skies are (or used to be) blue.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:25 | 4420199 buzzsaw99
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in freedumb's land you just hire the relatives of politicians and contribute to election campaigns. after that you hire them as consultants and lobbyists in order to perpetuate the cycle. none of that is counted as corruption. the chinese, foreign oil dictators, etc., buy investments from the squid, al gore, and the clintons  and such and that isn't counted either.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:21 | 4420623 TBT or not TBT
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Like the Clintons leasing the Lincoln Bedroom to Chinese army bundlers?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:22 | 4420204 HyBrasilian
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That looks like a fucking SHERMAN that Patton left in the Ardennes...

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:27 | 4420228 superflex
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Learn your fucking armor.

That's a M24 Chaffee

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:34 | 4420245 knukles
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Which, BTW, was recently rescued from the live fire range at Hunter Ligget and sold to the Greeks for $1.3 billion via Halliburton's no bid contract under DoD's Foreign Military Assistance Aid Program (aka Arms for Peace and Prosperity)

Halliburton gets $1.3B
Greeks get rust
Taxpayers get the bill for rusty tank sent to Greece, plus brand new M1A Abrahams to replace rust as live fire target at Hunter Ligget.

         Booyah! Bitchez!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:42 | 4420264 Boris Alatovkrap
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Beware of Military Industrial Complex and remember, "all war is bankster war."

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:05 | 4420347 HyBrasilian
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@superflex

~~~

 

I stand corrected... I said 'LOOKS LIKE'... Am I that fucking wrong?...

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:30 | 4420437 superflex
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My use of fucking was predicated on your use of fucking.  It wasn't an attack but a reply in the same tone as yours.  

FYI, Shermans used double bogey wheels, had a hideous triangular shaped body and a long barrel, hi velocity 76 mm gun.

Sorry, I was a WWII armor geek growing up.  Loved  building Tamiya models.

 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:32 | 4420441 Leaf of Tree
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Only fags excuse themselves of the usage of the FUCK words in Fight Club.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:25 | 4420649 HyBrasilian
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He gets a free pass on that one...

~~~

#1 he was correct on the tank identification [notwithstanding the interpretative vagrancies of 'LOOKS LIKE']

#2 ZH isn't FIGHT CLUB anymore... [not since certain entities have unexplicably VANISHED ~ as in... Where's hedgeless_horseman lately?]...

 

 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:45 | 4420277 superflex
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I see from Fort Hunter Ligget's website, they are mostly concerned about black history month, sexual assault, suicide prevention and their solar micro-grid.

Booyah my ass.  

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:39 | 4420700 knukles
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Check out the Special Forces, Seal Teams, whatever' websites. Even the nuclear bringers of Armageddon are spiritually barren statists, serving their Human Higher Powers (LOL) demands, promoting diversity, love, affection, caring, helping and coddling without an anchor in philosophical and spiritually based source of all morals and ethics.

The only branch of the military these days that even uses (permitted to) the term "kill" and multi-fold derivations thereof are the Marines, God Bless their Aim, deferring to God to Sort it All Out.
Elsewhere it is verboten to use the term "kill"

More hypocritical PC from your leftist Progressives, who BTW have not a moment's hesitation to feed the MIC's maw of death and destruction whilst bathing openly in their very own taxpayer (serfs and peasantry to the NWO) funded excessive decadence.

 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:41 | 4420259 Boris Alatovkrap
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Is look more like Patton that Macarthur is leave at Inchon.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:22 | 4420206 NOZZLE
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Apparently Vulgarians are either skilled at lying on surveys or have devloped a belief system that grease is a necessary part of any transaction.  I'm going with the latter. Anyone who has spend any time in Vulgaria would know better.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:55 | 4420302 Leaf of Tree
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The same shit you're spouting about the Bulgarians can easily be said about your precious alcoholic Britishers.

Go fuck yourself!!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:40 | 4420480 KickIce
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No doubt at this point we're all casting stones at glass houses but the US has the largest.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:22 | 4420208 Gringo Viejo
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Mustard gas is "breathtaking".

Corruption? I don't know......

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:23 | 4420212 Joebloinvestor
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They should have realized this when EU fucks have (monthly) meetings in 5 star hotels and eat in 5 star restaurants while discussing "austerity" for everyone else.

 

When they hold a meeting in a soup kitchen, I'll assume they are serious.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:12 | 4420368 KickIce
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I'd prefer their next meeting to take place in Hell.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:25 | 4420414 adonisdemilo
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With a bit of luck Joebloinvestor, you will see the whole bloody lot of them in the soup kitchens.

It will be quite a comedown from the trough that they usually feed from.

When the first domino falls the EU is over and then we can find the recipients of all the bribes, and just as importantly nail the two faced traitors who proffered them.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:23 | 4420215 pods
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When are people going to realize that government is the problem, and not the solution?

pods

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:28 | 4420225 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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When the perps are all fucking dead.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:25 | 4420416 TBT or not TBT
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It didn't work out that way for the French in their revolution. Au contraire, they're not just believers in pervasive government, they can't imagine a liveable world without it

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:33 | 4420232 Dr. Engali
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It seems I heard that once before. It's too bad to solution to the problem was… Wait for it....... More government

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:30 | 4420434 Leaf of Tree
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Go live in Somalia the land of no government.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:41 | 4420484 MagicMoney
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Somalia has a government. Where have you been all these years??? Hem.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:44 | 4420498 TBT or not TBT
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I hate to use the n word. Hate it. But in the case of somalia it absolutely applies. Atop that factor, with the attendant khat chewing etc, you have the overlay of a death cult "religion". In contrast to that, limited government worked just fine for the USA for a century and a half, delivering unprecedented advancement and flourishing here.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:00 | 4420528 Leaf of Tree
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Nobody says that government has to be like North Korea or USSA.

But a  decent size of government is needed.

Free education (real shit not Yale type propaganda), infrastructure and even free medical services, proper tax systems are needed.

The amount of trillions spent on Iraq war could actually pay for free health and free education for united stateans the next 50 fucking years.

Add to that the trillions spent on bailing out the banks.

Only selfish fucks that have benefited from free infrastructure are against any kind of government.

Only neo-libertarian deluded fucks preach about no government.

Curiously enough the same schizoids want government to exist so that .gov can restrict immigration and impose trade tarrifs so that their low quality shit can actually compete against japanese/german machinery.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:09 | 4420573 TBT or not TBT
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Uh huh, go fuck yourself,.... and do so on your own dime, availing yourself only of medical care or family arrangemnts you or yours have made. Or maybe you can meet up with Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown Law School grad who pleaded she needs us to pay for her studs' rubbers. Probably she has received massive philanthropic donations to prevent people like you and her from breeding.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:11 | 4420593 pods
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Government is force (coersion if you would like).  Nothing else.

Since human nature has some humans wanting to control other humans, then government will always end up with control freaks at the helm of government.

Why is it that you people always toss up Somalia, in a war torn state of chaos to back up your point?

I could say that Stalin's Russia, Pol Pot, Mao, etc all back up mine.  Who wins using that argument?

Education?  Same thing. Easiest way to keep power is to educate your population into believing this is the way things must be.

The wars you speak of are to maintain the reserve currency of the USD, in case you received only a government education.

You somehow think that government can exist independently from all of these forces that seek to control it.

All the items you speak of, wars and bank bailouts, are caused by that which you espouse, namely government.

And you call me naive and selfish?

pods

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:30 | 4420653 TBT or not TBT
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That's awfully civil of you pods. You're a better poster than me I guess, but the amount of human suffering brought about by these fuckers is so immense and so often intentional that I can't restrain my invective enough.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 19:53 | 4421823 StychoKiller
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[quote]

In the first grade, Comrade teacher announces the day's lesson in School Number
One: Marxist criticism and self-criticism.

"Ivan, please stand up and tell us what Marxist criticism and self-criticism
means,” she instructs.

The little boy stands up. “Comrade teacher, Marxist criticism is how we must
view my parents, who joined the reactionary counter-revolutionary forces who
sought to destroy our heroic workers' and peasants' state, and then fled to
the imperialist, capitalist west, to continue their intrigues against the
Socialist regime.”

“Excellent, Ivan. And what is your Marxist self-criticism?”

“I didn't go with them.”

[/quote]

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:40 | 4421206 123dobryden
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they say that least corrupt are nordic countries, but they found some other game instead, they are stealing children from imigrants on a reale massive scale...

 

saw a documentary as they took 12y girl from polish family just cause she came sad to school, desperate family hired a polish private detective, who in the middle of a night risking everything took the girl from new family's house a drove her to Poland

 

guy has become a Polish hero

 

so? south or north?

 

 

 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:31 | 4420218 NuYawkFrankie
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re ...cost of corruption in the EU amounts to €120 billion annually

Jeez... what pikers!  The Pentagon "spends" that amount on toilet seats.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:26 | 4420223 Dr. Engali
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Corruption? Get the fuck out?! I thought that those righting the rules had motives as pure as the wind driven snow. After all it's for the children.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:33 | 4420238 williambanzai7
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.

It's time to define "Eurocrat"

It's one who resembles a rat

Conceited and crass

With face like an ass

So words are not spoken - they're shat

The Limerick King

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:02 | 4420332 MsCreant
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Butt-talks, no one listens. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:42 | 4420257 Dr. Engali
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Maybe the armaments aren't for fighting Turkey. Maybe they are to put down the serfs in the upcoming global war against the elites.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:44 | 4420269 ebworthen
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Funny how that first graphic shows that those benefitting the most from the EU folly are the most deluded about corruption.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:45 | 4420275 paint it red ca...
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Looking at that map, I don't see where the Swiss are complaining.

They must be the one benefiting....

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:56 | 4420295 rtalcott
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pre-dupe causality be damned

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 13:54 | 4420296 rtalcott
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One toke over the line!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQrNWZ4Y5tU

Having made Nixon's enemy's list and special rebuke from Spiro T. Agnew, Michael Brewer and Tom Shipley perform their famous hit for a National Organization for Reform of Marijuana Laws party in Washington, DC 1998

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:05 | 4420329 TrustbutVerify
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It is the individual that is corrupted.  But the uncorrupt are so often very lazy, so lazy that corruption and crime takes over.  But laziness in itself is a from of corruption.   

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:39 | 4420481 MagicMoney
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Yeah, but government allows lazy people to thrive.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:56 | 4420533 TBT or not TBT
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That seems pretty clear, but how can so many not get it?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:04 | 4420338 Juvenal laughs
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Greece will conquer all Turkish islands in the aegean with it's massive tankforce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Hellenic_Army Not included in the account which surpasses 1200 tanks: several hundred of Abrams M1, of which some have already arrived.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:14 | 4420385 Leaf of Tree
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Greece is preparing for the day that our beloved Constantinople of our Orthodox True Faith comes back to us.

We will drive out of Asia Minor the muslim invaders.

 

http://addisabram.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/elder-paisios-amazing-prophec...

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:24 | 4420418 Sashko89
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Constantinople :) Remember when Sophia used to be an orthodox church and not a mosque?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:46 | 4420506 TBT or not TBT
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They're outbreeding you dude.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:53 | 4420517 Sashko89
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Lol, good point.. but then the Chinese are outbreeding everyone. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:00 | 4420545 TBT or not TBT
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You're joking right? The one child policy has been operative there many decades now, and the population faces rapid aging and collapse as a result of it. The biggest thing going on in china is aging, right after the massive mismatch between the number of women and men. You see, with a one child policy in place in an Asian country, you get lots and lots of extreme late term abortions of baby girls and girl toddlers.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:03 | 4420557 Leaf of Tree
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Girl infanticide in China has nothing to do with the one-child-policy.

It's chinese stupid tradition. They see a girl as a cost. Boys are seen as assets by the families in rural areas.

It's one of those stupid chinese stuff, like eating the balls of the highly endangered Syberian tiger.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:13 | 4420592 TBT or not TBT
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The one child policy accelerated the problem. You do view it as kinda, savage, or bad or something, no? Statist says what?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:09 | 4420571 Leaf of Tree
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There are almost no muslims in Greece or the EE countries.

Muslums are multiplying like rats in Western countries.

 

But war in Anatolia is coming. And Russia will crush the turks.

What is happening in Syria is the beginning.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:15 | 4420607 TBT or not TBT
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Russia will crush the Turks with....what army? Russian birth rates have been dismal for such a long time it is unlikely that nation will make it out of the present century as recognizably Russian.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:36 | 4420703 TBT or not TBT
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Oh right, thanks downarrower, I forgot Russia has made enormous strides in demography and wealth since they got their asses kicked by far less populous, far poorer Afghanistan in the 90's.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:44 | 4420492 Joe A
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And how are they going to get them there when the ferries are always on strike? ;-)

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:02 | 4420549 TBT or not TBT
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The southern european fairies are always in business though.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:41 | 4420980 TPTB_r_TBTF
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tanks can snorkel

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:03 | 4420339 Atomizer
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Euroland

Le retour de l’or, MINTenant 

 

The truth is so obscured in these times and the lie is so established that unless one loves the truth, one could not recognize it.  (B. Pascal, 1623 – 1662)

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:08 | 4420348 Sashko89
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Meanwhile in Western Ukraine, the opposition believes that integration into the EU will end all corruption in Ukraine.. they want European Standards. I guess they didn't read the zerohedge article... (P.S. the media in Ukraine, does not report on things like this... how could they after all, all their financing comes from USA/EU, free western press for the dissullusioned western slavs)

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:23 | 4420407 Atomizer
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Do you mean the wash, rinse and repeat mode?

IMF Survey: Helping Ukraine Avoid a Hard Landing  - November 10, 2008

A $16.4 billion loan for Ukraine approved by the IMF's Executive Board will help the government strengthen confidence and restore economic stability after the country became the latest victim of the financial crisis sweeping the global economy.

 

http://www.imf.org/external/ns/search.aspx?NewQuery=Ukraine&col=SITENG&filter_val=N&lan=eng

IMF is in another standby mode…. /LOL

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:48 | 4421242 123dobryden
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as from a country next to ukraine that already joined EU, i have to say that corruption is really on decline as they made big part of it legal now with their eu funds..

 

so now they are not taking bribes, instead they direct these money from eu straight to themself

 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:06 | 4420351 kralizec
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This is a poll?  Really?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:22 | 4420410 Reaper
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It's all about power and who's perceived to have it.  The delusion is that any government hack can be trusted.  The more hacks empowered to approve or delay approval, the more hands that are out.  The problem is a media-government complex that feeds on the sheeple's trust.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:50 | 4420497 MagicMoney
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Well when government corrupts, it corrupts absolutely. Democracy is no defense against corrupiton. Democracy in itself is corruption. Politicians bribe voters for support. There is very thin line between "legal" democratic bribery & illegal bribery. That's what happens when you have large cowboy government run amok. This is nothing new.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:39 | 4420713 assistedliving
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i'd take a roma over a brit any day.  at least my gf will get her fortune told.  the brit will sell my entire bank account details. 

bottom line is the eoncomy sucks; the palm goes out

just wondering if its a contrarian indicator...

 

 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:58 | 4421053 robertocarlos
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The giraffes in Denmark can't be bought.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:32 | 4421175 killieboy
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If you are in the UK vote Farage, vote UKIP to run away from this shite.

Thanks be given for Nigel; Britain's last chance as a sovereign nation.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:16 | 4422103 asa-vet52
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As if the USA's goverment isn't corrupt?

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