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Farage Blasts "Bullying Brussels", Cheers Swiss Immigration Curbs Bill

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Switzerland's surprise decision in favor of curbing EU immigration, was greeted by UKIP's Nigel Farage as "wonderful news for national sovereignty and freedom lovers throughout Europe." With 50.3% of Swiss voters backing the "Stop Mass Immigration" bill proposed by right-wing populists, AFP reports that Farage (who has been outspoken over immigration and sovereignty problems in Europe) added "a wise and strong Switzerland has stood up to the bullying and threats of the unelected bureaucrats of Brussels." As we noted previously, with the EU elections rapidly approaching non-centrist status quo parties are quickly gaining attention as 'the protest vote' gains traction.


Via AFP,

The leader of Britain's main eurosceptic party hailed "wise" Swiss voters Sunday for backing curbs on EU immigration, saying it would encourage others across the continent.


Nigel Farage, the head of the UK Independence Party, said Switzerland had stood up to "bullying" from Brussels and that it was "not a matter of race but of space."


"This is wonderful news for national sovereignty and freedom lovers throughout Europe," said Farage, who is a member of the European parliament (MEP).


"A wise and strong Switzerland has stood up to the bullying and threats of the unelected bureaucrats of Brussels."


Final results from a referendum showed that 50.3 percent of Swiss voters had backed the "Stop Mass Immigration" proposal pushed by right-wing populists, threatening to ignite a row with Brussels.


UKIP has led calls for similar calls for a cap on immigration, a touchy issue in Britain since Bulgarians and Romanians were given full rights on January 1 to free movement within the European Union.


Farage added: "It is a great thing to be welcomed that the Swiss people now have the freedom to decide the number and skill level of the people who they wish to invite to work or stay in their country."


"It is not a matter of race but of space, of numbers and of skills," he said.

Of course this move is a blow for a Europe "run by big banks, big business, and big government" as Farage has described it in the past but we thoght this brief discussion from the UK (Boston, Lincolnshire) was useful in summing up the rising tensions from both the people and non-status-quo politicians looking for change...



It would seems to us that one 'event' that no one is discussing as a catalyst is the EU elections and here, from El Pais, is a very enlightening graphic showing the considerable growth in "Extreme Right" parties across the entire European region:


Whether, as Farage has warned in the past, we remain on the verge of social unrest is unclear but for sure this is not the poltical union that Barroso pitches it to have become...


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Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:57 | 4420537 fijisailor
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no sound in the video

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:09 | 4420569 jaap
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Geert Wilders VVD? Not since almost a decade...

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:29 | 4420668 BaBaBouy
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"" Elections And Referendums Are A THREAT To Democracy ""...

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:33 | 4420676 redpill
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Why is it so difficult for people to come to terms with the fact that open borders and a welfare state are not fiscally compatible policies?  And to label people "extreme right wing" just for bringing it up is ludicrous, but also reveals the truth: that political proponents of open borders with a backdrop of existing (expensive) social programs are typically going to be proud members of their local "free shit" party, either as someone who gets the benefits, or as a politician who reaps the electoral rewards from pillaging their own social infrastructure.  In either case it is theft at best and treason at worst.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:45 | 4420745 TBT or not TBT
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I'm going with treason. Ted Kennedy's 1960's psychotically self destructive immigration bill comes to mind. We are reaping the rewards now but the full reckoning is unbelievably still ahead of us.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:06 | 4420850 gmrpeabody
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Fuck the EU...

Oh, wait...

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:35 | 4420947 TBT or not TBT
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Aha! The Kennedys were Jooos in league with the LooneyNaughties. Some dude was arguing that to some Lyndon larouche PAC luminaries a few months back and it flew right over my head, then. Not now. Thanks.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 19:58 | 4421838 Rafferty
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The Ted Kennedy Act????  Oh PULEEEZE!

Teddy was just goyishe window dressing.  The bill was written by Norbert Schlei and driven through by Jacob Javits and Emmanuel Cellar.  All tribe members.


But yes, you're 100% right about its being treason.


Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:26 | 4420777 Sofa King Confused
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The Swiss are also getting ready to give the citizens a living wage of 2500 francs a month whether you choose to work or not.  I guess they dont want the rest of the world to move there when this gets approved.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:50 | 4421025 SwissCake
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Just watch and experience the sweet 75/25 when this is voted.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:36 | 4421194 TeMpTeK
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Its about diluting the sovereignty of a nation with an influx of people that dont understand freedom or the reasons why the freedom theyre experiencing exists... when enough of them have been introduced into a society its only a matter of time before the sovereignty of the people has been yeilded over to the state.... This is why the US wont close the southern border or slow the invasion at our ports.... treasonous..

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:01 | 4421845 Rafferty
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You explain it perfectly.  And yes, it's treason, 100% so.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:56 | 4421045 SwissCake
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The "I am glad not to have referendums." is the discourse the EU "congressmen" are holding presently to our Swiss medias.

Oh, and also the:

"Citizens are... dumb."

"Recall when you shut the borders in 1933."

"Your people obviously understand very little."


Source in French:



Mon, 02/10/2014 - 18:47 | 4421520 Moe Howard
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Isn't this that mother fucking democracy they are always spouting off about [the leftists I mean].


All good until the people don't vote the way they want, then it's mob rule and racist!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:13 | 4421108 eurogold
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I am not sure what there is to be happy about, EU is going down in a really bad way. The U.S. Will soon experience the same.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 14:59 | 4420541 Max Damage
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Again, well said Farage, but the dickheads still vote Liebour, Cons, and Lib/dicks. Hopefully they will wake up

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:19 | 4420619 NotApplicable
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Well, if they do wake up, then they won't vote at all. Otherwise, they'll do nothing but fall victim to the latest round of divide and conquer.

It's the 1930's all over again.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:48 | 4420725 Mandel Bot
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Euro Countries like France and the UK could stop immigration altogether today and it wouldn't make any difference. It is too late. The native population is breeding below the rate needed to maintain population (2.1 children per woman) while the already resident muslims are breeding like rabbits. France has 10% muslims overall but, in the age range below 15 yrs, muslims are 30%. Extrapolate that to 2050 and adulterers will be stoned in European marketplaces.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:52 | 4420771 TBT or not TBT
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Don't mention the existing (today) plague of honor killings, forced marriages, thousands of zones where the police don't go, European women adopting headscarves to get through their commutes unscathed, rapes, and the lovely makeup of their jails, which they mostly reserve for violent offenses in Europe.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:01 | 4420552 BandGap
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Wow, the English are not a handsome people. They could use a bit of (controlled) genetic diversity.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:17 | 4421114 eurogold
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The British are unique. The men are gay and the women are ugly.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:42 | 4422188 StychoKiller
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Right, absolutely hideous!

One should use absolutes in a sentence only after careful consideration.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 09:48 | 4423465 Tom_333
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Just ask her to raise her arms....

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:03 | 4420556 Kreditanstalt
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I'm sure this will be popular with the hoi polloi...  But everyone should have the absolute right to move anywhere not privately-held.

Why did we ever let the governments create and control artificial stste borders in the first place??  They're lines on a map...

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:12 | 4420585 FreeMktFisherMN
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Agree. I am pro national sovereignty, but nationalism does not equal statism. Nationalism is based on cultural values. I am against any integration as the NWO wants a neo Tower of Babel and want to destroy traditional values such as the family. America is about people who have reverence for liberty and private property, not the statist apparatus that has continued to increase since its nascence. What made America special was that it was damn near anarcho capitalist. 

ANY statism implies an organized system of theft and coercion. 'Limited' government still is statism. And those who say look at Somalia, well the point is that in any scenario adding an organized system of theft and violence will only make matters worse. And Somalia still has states (i.e., rogue agencies) but without a publicly legitimized state, they have a hard time overcoming competing defense agencies, voluntary associations, commercial entities, etc., whereas even with 'limited' government the apparatus for the means of subjugation is in place. And government's incentives are to justify themselves and add bureaucracy and power via fearing the people into giving up liberty, so they will take bribes/cronyism. 


If a Mexican wants to come over here and pick grapes as no one else will there is nothing wrong with that. It increases efficiency. The problem is looking at the incentives of why they come here; is it for the free shit or actual work. Removing the state would solve that as there would be no free shit taken at gunpoint from others and given to them. There are sadly some luddites here on ZH who are all for protectionism/tariffs that exacerbated the Great Depression and prolonged it. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:34 | 4420682 Kreditanstalt
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Agreed...the central problem is an insolvent social welfare system funded by coercive seizure of private property and assets by an armed gang of thugs who have the hubris to call themselves a "government".

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:58 | 4420784 falak pema
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well according to ZH the central problem is the insolvent Banking cabal and the socialisation of its private debt that has spilled over and made government incapable of spending money on social programs, on military adventurism gone viral since 9/11, and on saving the banks and the rich who run AMerica. AND THIS CANCER JUST KEEPS GROWING...EVERY DAY.

Triple whammy; but you say its the 99% who are the problem...It doesn't correspond to the factual reality as related here since 2008. 

SO what is the true cause and what is consequent effect; thats the question to ponder.

Your affirmation is short, like the guys who say that the WS bubble dies tomorrow. If they short they lose their shirts ! 

Facts and delusions or illusions of cause and effect. 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 08:33 | 4423293 Dugald
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"an armed gang of thugs who have the hubris to call themselves a "government".

All true.....but, to the playing of bands, the popping of balloons and the waving of placards and streamers...with eager faces and hearts full of what seemed like joy..

You prats voted them into power!

And it made no matter which lot won they are all corrupt, and you knew that going you whinge and whine whilst crying into your piss weak beer.....fer christs sake you are behaving like a bunch of Americans....oh, wait,



Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:36 | 4420688 redpill
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If there isn't a social safety net/welfare state, open borders are no problem at all.  If there is a social safety net and it merely takes your geographic presence to qualify for it, then people looking for free shit will just go to where the best benefits are and camp there until the place is bankrupt and then move on to the next like locusts.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:47 | 4420752 Surging Chaos
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Agree with this 100%.

The biggest reason I'm against "build a big fence/concrete wall/whatever" is because that strengthens the police state that we all love to hate. That big fence designed to keep people from entering inevitably becomes the same fence that keeps people from leaving. It's not a coincidence that totalitarian countries have strict (e)immigration controls and big fences/walls/guards all around their borders.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:50 | 4420774 redpill
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I don't disagree, unfortunately the (correct) alternative is to remove the incentive to pillage the welfare state by reducing its size.  But doing so by the tiniest amount yields blood-curdling screams from those already solidly addicted to their helping of free shit and can't fathom going without any of it.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:09 | 4420852 Surging Chaos
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It is a sad realization that has become the case (and I would know considering I live in Oregon where there is all sorts of welfare abuse), but the scaling back of the welfare state would kill countless birds with one stone.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:31 | 4420936 MrPalladium
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It is not just a matter of cutting back welfare, desirable as that may be. But we also need to restore freedom of association and freedom of contract, the ability to do business with whomever we please to sell our property to whoever we please (and refuse to do business, employ and sell to anyone we please for any reason). In other words there is no freedom if individuals and businesses are not allowed to discriminate based on any criteria they choose.

Eliminate welfare and restore complete freedom of association and immigration restrictions would be unnecessary.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:51 | 4421157 Leaf of Tree
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In other words, if a business owner wants to hire mexicans for 3 bucks an hour instead of united stateans for 15 bucks an hour, he should be free to do just that.

Am I correct? Is this what you mean?


Or he should be free do close down shop in USSA and move factory to Guatemala. Correct?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 19:44 | 4421780 MrPalladium
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You should read "The Big Sort" by Bill Bishop to see how this might play out. Given both abolition of welfare and reinstatement of freedom of association there would be millions of U.S. born former welfare recipients looking for work and accepting market wages. Immigrants would have no safety net to fall back on and thus would not undertake the trip. Owners of small businesses would be free to preferentially hire their own kind, or hire based on ability alone.

In such an environment big business that wanted to keep applying racial preferences would face the true costs of "diversity" as competitors hiring based on ability alone could adapt more quickly, innovate and produce better quality, and defeat competitors.

Why do you think our laws were passed to abolish freedom of association?

It was precisely so that burdens could be placed upon the majority race and to ensure that businesses implementing racial preferences would not face competion from businesses that hired based on ability alone. These laws shield those economic actors implementing preferences from the competitive consequence of its economic costs.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 19:43 | 4421788 Kreditanstalt
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Correct.  When you favour an interest group with government force you deny personal liberty to others.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:57 | 4420800 TBT or not TBT
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Let me know when the politicians buying FSA votes has come to a full halt, and THEN we can talk about draining the great southern alligator moat. Not holding my breath. Instead I'm supporting building the machine gun nests and mine field strips etc that will protect the fragile new National Alligator and Pirhana Wetlands' development.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:55 | 4420787 tarsubil
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Yes, generally, crappy systems will tend to failure. This is actually a good thing. Whether we learn from our mistakes or not.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:21 | 4421135 killieboy
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Exactly, the UK is being hollowed out by the predations of the locusts.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:13 | 4420590 youngman
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And does your house have a door..and a lock...same reason

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:17 | 4420611 NotApplicable
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Maybe you should read the post before replying next time, eh?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:32 | 4420674 Kreditanstalt
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MY house is private property.  

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:56 | 4420793 tarsubil
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If you downvoted this, please go away.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:15 | 4420882 gmrpeabody
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"MY house is private property"

So was mine. Right up until I got taxed out of it to pay for Pedro's extended family coming up to my neighborhood to get medical benefits for free.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:53 | 4421037 gmrpeabody
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If you down voted this..., you probably rent.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:21 | 4420627 Canadian Dirtlump
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if the state wasn't obliged or mandated to ( based on bad policy or perverted ideology ) provide a massive architecture of taxpayer funded welfare programs then the point would be alot better made. Between gypsies invading britain and folks from africa and the middle east enjoying the complimentary largesse that most hard working britons couldn't afford I'm shocked there hasn't been riots. I said years ago thank goodness they can't walk to north america, not that our programs ( immigrations or welfare ) are much better.


There is a francis sawyer esque conspiracy theory about multiculturalism and bad immigration policies which if you squint just right makes sense from time to time.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:53 | 4421252 Zwelgje
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Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:31 | 4420631 TheMeatTrapper
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But everyone should have the absolute right to move anywhere not privately-held.

Perhaps the entire population of Liberia can relocate to your city. You'd change your tune pretty quick in that case. 

Those lines on a map represent the territorial boundaries of areas populated by common cultural groups. They are means of demarcating areas that those cultural groups deem to be "theirs". These areas contain natural resources  that are vital to their survival, and as such, these groups are willing to use violence to retain them in their bid for survival. 

It's pretty obvious you don't provide your food by the work of your own hand, otherwise you'd understand why those "lines on a map" are important. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:36 | 4420692 Temporalist
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I was going to say something similar although I agree in prinicipal with Kreditanstalt.  It prevents "other's" criminals so that whole groups of people can have their "own" criminals in charge.


If it were just an individual here and there that is looking for a better lot in life that's one thing.  Allowing predators/criminal mobs to move in groups is suicide.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:34 | 4420696 Kreditanstalt
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Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:40 | 4420718 TheMeatTrapper
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@Kreditanstalt: you want tough borders to keep out labour competition and prop up non-market-based high wages...?

Is that what I said? Why do you find it neccessary to put words in my mouth? Is it because you are unable to refute the points that I made? 

My desire to control the borders of my country are for several reasons including a desire to maintain the cultural integrity of my nation as well as maintain the fiscal fitness of the nation. 

This land is OURS. It belongs to US. We conquered it and we will administer it to OUR benefit. 

I realize that the concept of independence, survival and self determination are alien to you - but they are natural rights as far as I am concerned. 

That being said, I look forward to your next specious, straw man argument you wish to assign to me. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:45 | 4420739 FreeMktFisherMN
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You only own the land you have either the contract to through purchase or your ancestors' inheritance from that land which they were the first to mix their labor with. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:19 | 4420897 gmrpeabody
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Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:45 | 4421012 TheMeatTrapper
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No. Land belongs to those who possess it. 

Ask the Palestinians. You can claim land all you wish - but those who occupy it and defend it are the owners. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 18:21 | 4421414 Leaf of Tree
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So if the Mejicanos outbreed you in the following decades, form a party, outvote you rednecks, change the name from USSA to Los Estados Unidos de Mejico and then proceed to genocide your white fat asses, you would call that successful conquest and possesion?

The future is bright. For los mejicanos.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

I guess it's time for the united stateans to die now. As a nation. If they ever were a true nation.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:06 | 4421862 Moe Howard
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They just got done wrecking mexico, why not usa? BTW, they have some reeally fat asses in the mexican community fuck wad.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:13 | 4422755 sylviasays
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The illegal hordes from south of the border turned California into Mexifornia and they're coming to a state near you! Habla espanol amigo?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:48 | 4420749 FreeMktFisherMN
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Immigrants used to come here for the freedom and to work. They were wary of the state and wanted no part of handouts. Mutual aid societies were the norm. Then the New Deal came as they fooled people into thinking this was the inevitable failure of laissez faire when in reality it was Fed inflation in the 1920s and intervention thereafter that caused the downturn. 


Incentives have to be considered. Now with the state's expansion and warfare/welfare/, people come here to freeload off that. There should be no state, though. We can have voluntary associations that you can ALWAYS defect from whereas with the STAT(E)us quo, it is done at gunpoint, not voluntary governance. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:01 | 4420828 TBT or not TBT
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Machine politicians in port cities have been buying votes and other support(including crimianl) from immigrants since well before FDR was born.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:55 | 4420781 Kreditanstalt
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According to that kind of collectivist logic, you stole it from the Indians!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:55 | 4420798 FreeMktFisherMN
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the Indian deal is bad. But the system of placation for them nowadays is just as bad. Lake Mille Lacs here looks like it might be the next victim of tragedy of the commons with the walleyes, in line with a article today about how the bison nearly disappeared. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:38 | 4420974 MrPalladium
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For at least 5000 years, tribes and races of farmers have been displacing hunting and gathering tribes and races throughout most of the planet. Those capable of a higher intensity use of land won because of greater numbers and secondarily, better tools and weapons.

To the extent that my ancestors took part in that displacement, I am proud of their accomplishment.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:48 | 4421018 TheMeatTrapper
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We did not 'steal' anything from the Indians. We took it by force. 

War for natural resources and territory are as old as the human race - and for good reason. It is inevitable. 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 05:14 | 4423140 Ar-Pharazôn
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lol as taking by force is different from stealing.



Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:08 | 4420843 tarsubil
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Your argument that the entire country of Liberia is going to move to a city is bogus. You are taking the concept to a completely unrealistic extreme. There is no need to refute it other than to say it is silly.

All land belongs to those who defend it. You speak of cultural integrity. That is dependent on the people of the counrty not the borders. Here's a newsflash, we do not have anything remotely resembling cultural integrity and it has next to nothing to do with immigration.

Your nationalist ferver for some false US conqueror is pathetic. Sorry, immigrants colonized the country and the west. Immigrants of all stripes looking for work. No country is made worse by hard working immigrants. You are afraid that the culture of this country is going to be lost to immigrants? You can't be serious. The disintegrating culture of this country is about as rotten as it gets. And you speak of natural rights. This country does not respect any of the natural rights documented in its founding documents. Your sad diatribe and the delusion that fuels it are pathetic.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 18:26 | 4421424 Urban Redneck
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All of Liberia might be extreme, the experience of the mass exodus from Somalia to Detroit makes the analogy within reason.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:06 | 4420847 Leaf of Tree
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You say you conquered. Correct word.

You killed the majority of the native americans and then stolen the land from their owners.


Now competition has arrived.

The mexicans will conquer you. Peacefully.

They will outbreed you. And there is nothing your redneckish united statean ass can do about it.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:42 | 4421000 MrPalladium
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"They will outbreed you. And there is nothing your redneckish united statean ass can do about it."

Come the collapse that is a very bad bet since modest numbers could easily defend to the exclusion of others large tracts of the U.S.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:30 | 4421168 Leaf of Tree
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Yeah. You act though homeboi on the Internet.

Bet you cry like a baby when Jose and Raul from da' hood fuck your wife.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 18:23 | 4421421 Woodhippie
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What fucking tree did you fall off?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:07 | 4420853 Canadian Dirtlump
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I think he is saying what we call borders now, at least in Europe and NOrth America, represent what would have been old tribal areas in africa before those borders were constructed in european board rooms.


Getting back to the conspiracy theory that a certain group want a mongrelized society ( except for their own homogeneous one ) let's remind ourselves than the banks, yes the banks are pissed off that the swiss dare have a say in how their country is ruined.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:36 | 4420697 ThirdWorldDude
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"Those lines on a map represent the territorial boundaries of areas populated by common cultural groups."


Yes, as designed by your Overlords. Yours is but the duty to respect your Masters and be thankful for keeping you safe from enemies domestic and foreign. 

Enjoy your Kali Yuga!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:44 | 4420732 TheMeatTrapper
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Who are my Overlords and which of the borders of the United States did they draw? 

I'm really curious about this. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:53 | 4420790 ThirdWorldDude
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Ask Farage, he's their errand boy. Being from USSA you might also want to check out DC, I've heard they have a local branch there.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:52 | 4420783 css1971
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Um because the king would kill you if you crossed the borders.

Europe is slowly moving from a system where an individual "winner", (the king) had absolute power, to a system where the individual has more power. America is going in the opposite direction.

The thing to remember about European government is that it is based on the absolute power of the baddest bastards who could hold a sword, and organise with others of their ilk. Today we would put these people in prison, in America they would be put to death. It's very important to remember this when thinking about what government and the state really are.


Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:05 | 4420842 Johnny Cocknballs
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"But everyone should have the absolute right to move anywhere not privately-held."


No, no they shouldn't.  Nations have a right to protect their culture, their people, and their borders, whether or not you have some other 'theory' about how things oughtta be.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:10 | 4420855 Urban Redneck
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Fuck the free of movement of people.


These "people" made their bed, now they need to sleep in it along with their dear klepotocrat leaders, and if they can't fix it, they need to be prevented from spreading their social cancer elsewhere.

It's for the children...

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:51 | 4421253 Leaf of Tree
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China also built a huge fucking wall.

And it succeded in stoping the Mongols.


But it didn't stop the inbredification of China and the internal conflicts and decay.


Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:57 | 4421269 akak
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But it didn't stop the inbredification of China and the internal conflicts and decay.

OK, if that did not have "AnAnonymous" written all over it, I don't know what would.

Make me laugh.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 19:13 | 4421661 TheFourthStooge-ing
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But it didn't stop the inbredification of China and the internal conflicts and decay.

Disengruntled wishing for one cause solely is a sure leads to pitfall.

Chineses people are not stupid. Madness out the economy in addition to events uproar obscures the attention of people more serious underlying crisis. Industrial enterprises will has begun to negative growth the profits fell consuitably.

Discarding quite easily the time reference.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 19:22 | 4421703 akak
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Ah, but the 'american' seeking of symmetry in the monolizing of the offuscation means causes them to scrap the goat and eject blame to the posterior.  Inability to throat the idea of self-indict leads to farming the weak, extorting the poor, same as always was.  Best yet.

Welcome to the US-EU-Romanian 'american' citizenism world, it's a hostile and demanding of conformity place, you'll see.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:25 | 4422783 sylviasays
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Welcome to the communist shitizenism world, it's a hostile and demanding of conformity place, you'll see.

Eat shit and die commie pig. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:09 | 4420561 cpzimmon
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The UK is dealing with almost the same set of circumstances as here in the US. Moronic leadership, criminal bankers and fucked up everything else.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:09 | 4420575 john39
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all by design.  to maintain control, the NWO (which is truly a tiny minority of people), must weaken the people's it controls.  it does through a variety of means, destroying social structures, wrecking the economy, encouraging dependency, debt, drug addiction and social decay.    Flooding cultures with people of different cultures has the effect of weaking the host country's cultural institutions, by permitting a flood of poor, uneducated immigrants from totally different cultures.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:15 | 4420871 ThirdWorldDude
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Key word here being flooding...

John, immigration isn't the problem, government and welfare state are. As you put it yourself, it's all by design. Do you believe that millions would stream into some foreign country thousands of miles away if they knew they couldn't live off of someone else's work? Don't know if you're familiar with the term social marxsism, but it's the primary reason the world's turned into the politically correct, passive agressive, LBTG-adoring shithole that it's become.

Killing individual morality and universal ethics is their method, eliminating people's personal power is their ultimate goal.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:53 | 4421039 MrPalladium
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It is the secular religion of human equality that is the one weapon designed to destroy Western European man. Every nation has an official religion. To find out what it is you need merely observe the belief systems that are enforced.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:15 | 4420610 BandGap
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Yeah, fucked up dental services and butt ugly women.

WTF, the studio audience looked like extras from the lastest filming of The Isle of Dr. Moreau.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:07 | 4420844 css1971
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Imagine you took the best features of the Germans, the best features of the French and then sort of randomly squidged them together.

English == mongrel nation.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:13 | 4420865 Leaf of Tree
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The english are the ugliest people in Europe.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:21 | 4420885 akak
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I have a friend who worked for years as a flight attendant, routinely traveling from the USA to just about every European nation, and she insists to this day that the English are indeed the ugliest people in Europe (except possibly for the Irish).

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:30 | 4420926 Leaf of Tree
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Hmm.. Irish girls are quite fuckable.

I'll disagree on that one.


The funny thing though is if you go north in Britain, where the vikings raped and pillaged, the people start to look normal like the Scots.

It's the south of Britain and west of it, populated by the celts that they look like inbred rednecks toothles fucks.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:20 | 4421130 TPTB_r_TBTF
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for the Continent, it is the further South and the further East you go... the uglier they get.

Like in Romania.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:34 | 4421178 Leaf of Tree
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Clearly you never met Romanian women. Or Eastern European ones.

Go fap fap fap to your fat ass burger munchers cows you call women in the UKstan.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 13:40 | 4424249 TPTB_r_TBTF
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I walk past those gypsy whores every day

and just keep walking...

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:30 | 4420935 JustUsChickensHere
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But the red haired, green eyed Irish coleen.... an exception I admit .. are exceptional!  And not in the american way.

Note: I said exceptional .. that does not imply easy to deal with, sane, or anything else.... just irresitible!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:37 | 4420965 akak
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From my experience, the Irish are 5% beauties and 95% Medusas. Same for the English.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:29 | 4420940 JustUsChickensHere
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And as Leaf said ... quite fuckable

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:25 | 4420917 TBT or not TBT
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You mean in "Europe", right?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:34 | 4420948 akak
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Are you denying that Britain is part of Europe?

If so, I suggest that you take out your world atlas and check up on the geography of that part of the world.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:41 | 4420989 TBT or not TBT
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Lemme see here. There it is right there off the coast, not part of continental Europe, and drum roll, a couple billion people around the world live under various forms of British law and parliamentary government. Shit goes right back to the magna carta. Gosh that's like, why that's a thousand years or somethun.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:55 | 4421021 akak
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The British are still as much a part of Europe, financially, economically, socially, historically and politically, as are France and Germany.

I don't know why so many of you Brits refuse to acknowledge that fact, and actually try to deny it.  It simply makes you look ignorant.


PS: The last time I checked, the UK was part of the EU and NOT part of NAFTA.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:16 | 4421110 TPTB_r_TBTF
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that's a close call, Romanians are pretty dang ugly too!

i vote for Romanians as mostest ugliest.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:20 | 4420890 adonisdemilo
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The audience, which is suposedly invited from a cross section of society, in this particular proramme--Question Time-- has always had an extreme left wing bias.

This fits in with the same extreme left wing bias with is evident every day in everything that the BBC produces both in current events. drama and documentaries.

I was very surprised that some of the audience were applauding. Maybe the welfare socialists are waking up at last.


Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:10 | 4420565 Jack Burton
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RT has done a great job of covering this story, well before the election they were commenting on the immigration vote. Today Brussels is making their threats against the Swiss. Never once, in all the talk by Brussels bosses, did I hear them acknowledge that the Swiss had a human right to vote. No, they said EU law trumps the vote of people. You may find this troubling, but it is nothing comapred to Obama's TPP law that makes democracy, or voting, in the member nations void. It also voids people right to challange corporate control of every thing. You will not even be allowed to file private law suits against a corporation that despoils your property or poisons your children. Under Obama's TPP, nations can not regulate corporations and indivduals have no right to go to the courts.

Now, Republicans in congress love this so called trade pact, and so do most democrats, and Obama is leader of the charge to enforce TPP on the people. Now, when I said NOW, I mean, NOW you come back and tell me about your two party system, and how if only team red were in charge how much better it would be. One party rule, you are under it, but your media dupes you into thinking "Hope and Change" is just one election away. How much longer will YOU let the elites play YOU for the fool???

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:32 | 4420667 Temporalist
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Jack I'm fairly certain that you're preaching to the ZH choir.  And what I mean by that is it's just not the people here that need to understand that...but unfortunately it's a small bunch (of small time fringe consipiracy bloggers). 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:09 | 4420576 buttmint
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The whole ideal of the Nation-State is dead in the water.

The internet saw to that. Read up on Neal Stephenson if you want details as to how thre nation state unravels....into the sovereign individual.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:16 | 4420609 Skateboarder
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The sovereign individual is self-reliant and accountable for its actions. We have a long way to go, buttmint.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:18 | 4420621 Seahorse
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Afraid so, it's earlier than you think.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:54 | 4420679 Temporalist
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They have FEMA camps for you lot of sovereign individuals...and your own sovereign individual 4x4 cozy room.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:10 | 4420849 Johnny Cocknballs
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really?  Tell that to Israel.


Stephenson is vastly over-rated, btw.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:38 | 4420577 Bokkenrijder
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Regarding that (Spanish) map with all those parties on it: get your facts straight!

The Dutch VVD and it's leader, the current PM of The Netherlands Mark Rutte, affectionately nicknamed Marx, is one of the most Eurofile parties in The Netherlands.

Every once in a while (hint: approaching election time) they ramp up the Eurosceptic talk, but only to stab the voters in the back once the elections are over, like they did after the last elections and brokered a coalition with...the Socialists. 

Unfortunately there is only one true anti-European party in +31 and that is the PVV of Geert Wilders, who is a bit of a left leaning (in economic policy terms) nutcase I suppose.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:15 | 4420606 squid427
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Can someone piont out a country that is currently using an open borders policy so I can see how it works it the real world and not just in thoery?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:32 | 4420648 TheMeatTrapper
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Can someone piont out a country that is currently using an open borders policy so I can see how it works it the real world and not just in thoery?

The USA. 

We refuse to police our borders and deport criminals. 

If you ask me, it ain't workin' so well. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:10 | 4420861 TBT or not TBT
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The even weirder truth of it is the federal government actively prevents state and local governments from enforcing state and local laws that are strictly identical to studiously unenforced federal law. Ask a border county sheriff. California is an outlier in that they just voted into state law the crime of cooperating with federal government agents' immigration law enforcement...I mean in the incident that a federal govt agent accidentally enforced one themselves. Let's say a newbie, for arguments sake.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:19 | 4420889 Johnny Cocknballs
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Excellent question.

In theory, I love the idea of a world without nation states, but in practice, it is absurd, and one of the more irritating things about some libertarians is their inability to think in the real world.

The EU was shoved down the throat of the peoples of Europe, who didn't really want it.  And while it partially erased some borders, it certainly didn't mean less government - it meant more government, more laws, and more rules.


When unskilled, foreign workers flood into an area, the middle and working classes are hurt, and national and community identity is at least altered, and often for the worse. 

People are very quick to talk about the "rights" of migrants to go from A to B for work, and to dismiss all objections as "racist" or "xenophobic" - but they never seem to get around to the rights of the existing national population.

Because they aren't being fair and honest.  Ironically, they are doing what statists do - using government coercion, re immigration policy, to force their ideas onto a country.

By the way, the Swiss aren't suddenly "antiimmigrant"  -about 30% of the population is already foreign born.  Are they honestly just supposed to let in anyone who claims a "right" to go their, and lose their identity and culture? It is a mark of national health to want to preserve one's national character and culture, and yes, that involves one's "race"  - that is, the Dutch have every right to remain a Dutch people, and if they are kind enough to allow some immigration, and their culture to morph, that's probably a good thing.


But the people who push mass immigration do so in hopes of destroying national character and identity.  That's out of hate - masquerading as a {selective} ultra-humanism.  It is all for the benefit of a tiny elite.



Tue, 02/11/2014 - 05:20 | 4423144 Ar-Pharazôn
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look their minister for integration. Cecile "King Kong" Kienge

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:18 | 4420617 Leaf of Tree
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What I find hilarious on ZeroHedge is how the white neonazi supremacists and neoconservatives are almost all anti Government, but at the same time want .gov to exist so to curb immigration.

Too bad the native americans were soo libertarians in their organization, that they had no border control agency to stop the unwashed anglos that washed up on the shores of America.

The Swiss are shooting themselves in the foot.


Also what's not said is that only an aprox. 50% of the electorate voted. And a tiny majority of that of 50.5% voted to curb immigration.

In other words only 26% of the Swiss electorate voted in favour. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:21 | 4420624 BandGap
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There is a difference between open borders and immigration.

What's a "tiny majority"?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:30 | 4420639 Leaf of Tree
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I meant a fragile majority.

Above 75%  is a strong majority.

Everything between 60-70% is a decent majority.

Everything in the 50% range  is fragile.

Like I said in my comment, only 26% of the Swiss electorate voted yes.

Almost 50% of the Swiss electorate did not bother to vote.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:25 | 4420909 Urban Redneck
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Get over it - Romanian. You're talking you book/passport (which won't get you in here anymore) and ignoring reality.

The Swiss voted, as they do several times a year, and they know how to count the votes extremely accurately (with the possible exception those Gemeindes that still use open outcry)

If 75% of the Swiss electorate actually had a problem with the outcome, getting 100k signatures for another referendum would be SIMPLE. (and it's not like there isn't already another immigration referendum in the pipeline).

The people gave the public servants three years to deliver an acceptable resolution, and if they deliver an unacceptable solution, there will be another referendum to overturn it, direct democracy really is that simple.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:43 | 4420990 Leaf of Tree
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The swiss vote means they need to renegotiate or redraw from their treaties with the EU.

The EU holds all the cards. If the EU wants free movement of travel and work of EU citizens, and the Swiss don't, they swiss will have their cake but they won't eat it.

A blockade of Swiss borders would kill their economy since they need access to Italian, German and French ports. Also control of all financial transactions to banks in Cheeseland will hurt the mafia state known as Switzerland really bad.

Not to mention, that the majority of immigrants in Cheeseland are highly qualified Germans Italians amd French. Only one of six pupils in Cheeseland goes to university after finishing highschool. So this measure will hurt their companies, who if want to sell their shit to european countries, could easily relocate manufacturing to the EU. Where highly skilled workforce and cheaper is available. 

I'm sure French and German companies are writing as we speak lists of Swiss made products who do not comply with EU regulations.


Like I said, the cheese munchers are shooting themselves in the foot. It's a short term victory against perceived threat of invasion by immigrants from Germany/Italy.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:47 | 4421014 SwissCake
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We don't care about your opinion. You obviously have no idea about our culture, the importance thereof. We'll move forward, as we always did.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:08 | 4421089 akak
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So Leaf of Tree, why would the (totalitarian) EU be justified in blockading Switzerland over a purely domestic Swiss political decision?  Are you admitting that the (totalitarian) EU cannot stand having its self-destructive immigration policies challenged on even the smallest of scales by a nation OUTSIDE of the EU?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:18 | 4421112 SwissCake
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The EU will try and do an example out of us because they know their institutions and credibility are terrible. And that, solely to send a message to the potential scessesionists (UK). This is the demonstration that they're afraid for their survival.

They know our concerns are downright legitimate, hence the vote, and if their credibility was not an issue, they should have been comprehensive.

But if they do make an example out of us, the backlash could be violent. To me the beginning of the end scenario is legitimate.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:21 | 4421128 Leaf of Tree
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Why should the EU give a free pass to the cheese munchers to sell their products in Europe and be let to operate as a tax heaven?

 Just because they had a referendum?

Mexicans in Mexico could vote in a referendum that Texas belongs to Mexico. Would texans oblige them and reunite with Mexico?


EU is a club with a set of rules.

Want to sell shit in the EU you obey EU rules.

One is free movement of capital and workers.


How about texans vote in a referendum that minessotans can't come and live in Texas, but at the same time expect minessotans to buy texan shit whitout any added taxes for example?


Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:32 | 4421170 akak
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You are being a disingenuous asshole and not addressing the pertinent point.

EU is a club with a set of rules.

Want to sell shit in the EU you obey EU rules.

One is free movement of capital and workers.

All true, but the Swiss are not members of that "club"! 

So you are admitting that the EU is not only a totalitarian political entity but an imperialist entity, by denying the Swiss their right to sovereignty, is that it?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:40 | 4421203 Leaf of Tree
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There are no invading tanks in Cheeseland.

The cheese munchers want to restrict EU citizens coming and working there.

They have the right. And can do it.

So does the EU can choose not to do business with Cheeseland and deny Cheeland lots of things, like access to EU ports.

Cheeseland can't have it their way.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:48 | 4421239 akak
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Correct me if I am wrong, Leaf of Tree, but according to my understanding of their referendum, the Swiss are now going to restrict ALL immigration, period, from ANY source.  Their policy is NOT specifically restricted to controlling immigration from just the EU.  So your intolerant pro-EU attitude is not only hypocritical but completely illogical.

And again, my point still stands: Why are the EU totalitarians so intolerant of the domestic political decision of a (supposedly) sovereign nation?  What's next, the EU banning tourists from nations which do in fact restrict immigrants?  Banning trade with nations that practice the death penalty?  Banning all contact with ANY nation that practices ANY political difference from the EU? 

Your arguments are as idiotic as they are ignorant.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:59 | 4421295 Leaf of Tree
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The EU gives a flying fuck about non EU immigrants.

But it is important to the EU citizens to have freedom of travel and work.

The Swiss want want to free travel in EU countries, but they don't want to allow free travel of EU citizen?? Think the EU will allow that.

Redraw from the freedom of movement of people treaty means redrawl from other treaties as well like freedom of movement of capital. That is because the way the Swiss have signed all these treaties.

Freedom of movement of capital and free trade with the EU will hurt like hell the cheese munchers.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 18:03 | 4421316 SwissCake
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Given your level of stupidity I bet on a 1-year internship at the EU commission, or maybe OECD for that matter.


Mon, 02/10/2014 - 18:06 | 4421332 akak
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The EU gives a flying fuck about non EU immigrants.


Is that then why the EU is so hell-bent on forcing, er, bringing, er, allowing in so many non-EU immigrants to dilute and destabilize every EU (former) nation?

Really, your apologies for EU imperialism and totalitarianism are as laughable as they are intellectually insulting.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 18:29 | 4421441 Leaf of Tree
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Yeah, you're a real intellectual.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:29 | 4421945 Moe Howard
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You got him there, moron.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:54 | 4421243 SwissCake
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The EU has an excedent balance of trade with us. We are their 4th partner. We're the 9th commercial partner of Germany. Also deficitiary.

You believe for a second that Merkel is gonna let the cocoricos from Bruxelles just shit down the main trade agreements? You are not faking your stupidity, are you?

In order to resilitate all agreements the EU needs unanimity. Good luck with that, and my greetings to the UK.


This is of course meant to the romanian shitbag, not the person right above.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:58 | 4421171 SwissCake
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You seem really frustrated, you piece of shit, were you refused a visa in CH?

We are no EU-member, contrary to your corrupted country. We have the right to chose the labour we want.

When we joined the fucking agreement we were fooled into expectations of 8k EU dumbshits per year. Those are now over 40k EU people per year. Importing their assisted mentality, shitting on our language and despising our unique institutions. Making criminality go off the roof and getting their education subsidized. 


This is of course meant to the romanian shitbag, not the person right above.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:24 | 4420913 JailBank
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Leaf of Tree, no doubt lives off gubment handouts. Look at him using the white mans internet. You are such a racist and at the same time an uncle tom, leafy.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:32 | 4420654 TheMeatTrapper
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@Leaf of Tree

What I find hilarious on ZeroHedge is how the white neonazi supremacists and neoconservatives are almost all anti Government, but at the same time want .gov to exist so to curb immigration.

Nice try, but you are wrong. We want Constitutional government. 

There is a difference. 


Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:32 | 4420681 Leaf of Tree
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Like I said, too bad the Navajos and the Apache and Comache did not have a "constitutional government" to kick you britishers out and sink your boats.

You united stateans live on stolen lands.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 15:52 | 4420772 JailBank
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So how far back in human history do we go to stake claim for lands taken?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:01 | 4420823 Leaf of Tree
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Oh so you colonists locusts from britain can steal other lands but if it's done to you in a polite manner, all of a sudden it is wrong???

You killed and genocided the native americans.

The mexicans come in USSA mostly to work. They don't steal your lands. And yet you hate them.

United Stateans are all about me me me. Selfish pricks that will kill to reach the "american dream". And when competition arises to that "american dream" they show their inbread redneck ugly faces.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:15 | 4420872 TBT or not TBT
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They vote for big government and suck social services enormously.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:17 | 4420887 tmosley
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You are a bigot. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:19 | 4420898 JailBank
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So you just going to avoid the question then? How far back in human history do we go to mark just who owns the land? If the Mexicans wanted the S.E. US so bad they should have won the war. That is on them. See in the old days if you lost the war you actually lost land as well. Hey speaking of why are you using a computer or the internet both invented by evil white men? Like to benefit off the backs of white people do ya? How much of a hypocrite are you?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:54 | 4421036 Leaf of Tree
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How do I avoid the question is beyond me!!

If you british inbred could kill and steal the land of native americans 600 years ago so can the mexican invade and outbreed you rednecks today.

Is there some divine law that says that the North American continent belongs to you fucking colonists from Western Europe??

The ancient empire of Egypt was at least 10000 years old when Roman legions conquered it all. And then muslim hordes of Arabia. 




 there is no Divine Law that says that North America belongs to the inbreds of Brittania that speak English, for ever and forever (and definitely God Himself doesn't appear to enforce such a thing), well the Mexicans can attempt at colonizing you rednecks


Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:57 | 4421048 akak
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AnAnonymous, you forgot to use your trademark phrase of "US 'american' citizenism".

Made me laugh.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 16:58 | 4421064 Leaf of Tree
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Sunt roman din Romania bah prostane futut in cur de Satana.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 17:41 | 4421107 akak
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You may be Romanian, but apparently kneejerk anti-American and pro-EU Chinese Citizenism travels well.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 18:04 | 4421311 Leaf of Tree
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Chinese Citizenism?? Wtf are you talking about?

And.. is there some law that I have to like united stateans? Are you "exceptional" or what!?!! Hahaaahaa!!!

I bet no one is forcing your united statean ass to like Eastern Europeans.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 18:10 | 4421347 akak
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I believe that the USA still officially has a zero-immigration policy in regards to vampires, so I suggest you don't make any plans on coming over here anytime soon.

And it is clear that you ARE in fact a vampire, as you so dearly support the EU sucking the lifeblood out of its hapless and formerly independent  European subjects.

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