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Gartman Does It Again... Again

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It is becoming more uncomfortable to make fun of Dennis Gartman's always incorrect calls (see here and here and here and here) than to watch Richard Simmons' Obamacare commercials, but... well - it's just too funny.

 

Just days after confidently explaining to the CNBC audience and all his newsletter-followers that the S&P 500 could see a 15% correction:

"I just think you're going to have a very severe, very substantive and really quite ugly correction that will probably make a lot of people wail and gnash their teeth before it's done,"

February 3rd (Ugly Correction coming - S&P 500 at 1,742)

 

...the world-renowned Dennis Gartman has done it again

February 10th (I'd say I was wrong... you can't be short - S&P 500 at 1,799.5)

 

"vociferously, I'd say I was wrong"

adding in his usual authoritative manner - prideless to the end:

"The one thing I will tell you is: You can't be short. It's still a bull market. That's what's really important. It's one thing to lose money. It's another thing not to make money. And if you're short, you're losing money."

Seems like $29.99 well spent to us?...

 

And in that one sentence, Gartman gave the implicit all-clear to sell Mortimer sell - sell it all...

But wait, there's more... despite thinking stocks could drop 15% and now that stocks are in a bull market, Gartman notes,

"I'm still neutral on equities..."

 

Brian Kelly adds at the end - desparately trying not to entirely destroy what is left of Gartman's credibility...

"Unlike the Godfather, Dennis Gartman, I am still short. And I think you can be short this market," he said. "I think there's a real risk that (Federal Reserve Chair) Janet Yellen comes out a lot more hawkish than people have priced in here, and I don't think the emerging-market currency issues are over. I think we're just in the eye of the storm."

 


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Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:22 | Link to Comment Grande Tetons
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Gartman> There is a 100 percent chance that I am full of shit. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:22 | Link to Comment James_Cole
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So many charlatans, so little time.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:27 | Link to Comment InjectTheVenom
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i'd take parenting advice from Charlie Sheen before i took investing/trading advice from Fartman !

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:38 | Link to Comment dryam
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He reminds me a of palm readers.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:50 | Link to Comment OC Sure
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"The worst vice is advice."

Why does anyone pay someone else to tell them what to think?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:13 | Link to Comment So Close
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At some point the odds of him being wrong again get pretty small.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:57 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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If you drop it on your foot, and it hurts..., it must have been your ego.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 01:17 | Link to Comment OC Sure
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Ha! You've (we've) been watching too much tv...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 02:29 | Link to Comment zhandax
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"At some point the odds of him being wrong again get pretty small."

If you are at a roulette wheel and have bet on red 12 times and the ball has dropped on black 12 times, what are the odds the ball drops on black the next spin?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 03:01 | Link to Comment Supernova Born
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Exactly the same as every other drop. Independent events.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 11:14 | Link to Comment Concentrated po...
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Same bookshelf, different skyline?

It's almost as if the Financial News is as much bullshit as the Nightly News...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 09:15 | Link to Comment Canoe Driver
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This weary old saw about the probabilties of independent events is pablum for mathematical poseurs. Ask this, what are the odds of a SERIES of 13 consecutive black drops on a roulette wheel? How about 14? 20? If the probabilities of these serial events occurring does not decrease in your calculus, it is amateur at best. 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:13 | Link to Comment tarsubil
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The chance of 13 black drops is half (50 50) of 12 black drops, right?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 01:17 | Link to Comment JLee2027
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At some point the odds of him being wrong again get pretty small.

Especially when he called for a correction in a bull market but is neutral on equities. When you think about that, Gartman is saying it could go down but it might go up so I'm not doing anything. So how could he be wrong?

 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 09:31 | Link to Comment Crisismode
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Maybe a butterfly spread?

 

 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:11 | Link to Comment So Close
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At some point the odds of him being wrong again get pretty small.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 01:39 | Link to Comment Never One Roach
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Gee, if I made that many mistakes I'd be fired but Gartman gets a Fat Salary, I bet!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 01:46 | Link to Comment akak
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No ...... that one is just too easy.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 13:05 | Link to Comment Boxed Merlot
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Tue, 02/11/2014 - 04:54 | Link to Comment BeetleBailey
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Blue Horseshoe LOVES Blue Star!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:27 | Link to Comment johngaltfla
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GARTMAN, aka, Lewinsky:

 

"I swear I never swallowed!"

 

Oh, you mean market questions? Whatever.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 03:41 | Link to Comment Mister Kitty
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Gartman is just another Ivy League stooge who gets nothing right.  Bastard.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 08:42 | Link to Comment t0mmyBerg
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Actually he went to NC State or something

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 04:54 | Link to Comment The.Harmless.Who
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Who is Gartman???  

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 05:00 | Link to Comment akak
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You know that flabby strip of fat that you find on the outside of a piece of prime rib?  The sticky, greasy, rubbery stuff that is utterly disgusting and that you hate to even touch, let alone eat?  The useless bovine adipose tissue that adheres to the good meat and has to be trimmed away and discarded, only to rot and stink like a dead skunk in your garbage can?

That is Dennis Gartman.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 09:35 | Link to Comment Crisismode
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C'mon Akak, don't soft-peddle your opinions,

tell us what you REALLY think.

 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 10:40 | Link to Comment thestarl
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Double whammy bald and fuckin fat big fucking useless prick get a real job you arsehole

Wonder if he's ever got off his big fat cellulite arse and ever done anything resembling physical work in his life

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 10:49 | Link to Comment tradebot
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Y'all can't say much...everyone of you were saying the same thing.  So don't get on his ass too bad.  The people here have been saying we were going to collapse any second for the last 5 yrs.  Crying wolf would be a better way to describe you guys.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:21 | Link to Comment Theta_Burn
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Most here were saying the same thing as well....

 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:47 | Link to Comment El Oregonian
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Gartman means dummkopf in german.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:57 | Link to Comment deflator
Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:24 | Link to Comment Carpenter1
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I read far better commentary in this comment section than any advice the talking fools have to say.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:26 | Link to Comment Nutflush60
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I am short Gartman in Cramer terms. Or is is the other way around?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:34 | Link to Comment akak
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Ironically, both work equally well.

As for myself, I am definitely long Gartman in Krispy Kreme terms. 
One might even say that my portfolio is heavy Gartman. VERY heavy Gartman.

I would, however, stay away from Gartman futures at all costs.
One needs far too much leverage to play with the big boys in that market.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:27 | Link to Comment Nutflush60
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Seriously, if Yellen breaks the market tomorrow, could he actually show his face in public again.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:32 | Link to Comment i_call_you_my_base
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Tomorrow we will see Yellen say absolutely nothing and a market that will do absolutely anything.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:52 | Link to Comment deflator
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Whatever she says tomorrw will probably be a head fake.. I see spot gold prices percolating tonight so not everybody is certain about what Yellin a handbasket will do.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:31 | Link to Comment jcaz
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Sure he can, cause he's living off that $243/ appearance CNBC money......

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:28 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Fuck so now we go short because Fartman is bullish, or do we go long because Banco de Americano is bearish? I'm so confused. Maybe another glass of wine will help.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:49 | Link to Comment Emergency Ward
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Maybe buy both calls and puts on the Triple-Ultra Inverse funds.  My head spins.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:35 | Link to Comment BeanusCountus
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Market mover, this Gartman. Goin long equities as soon as I can, shorting gold. No, wait! Shorting equities asap and going long gold!!!

Geeez!! Doing anything either for or against this newsletter salesman is like betting for or against Punksawtany Phil. And my money is on Phil.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:35 | Link to Comment akak
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I guess my dyslexic broker was correct after all when he kept insisting that Gartman was bullshit on the stock market.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:38 | Link to Comment Dogbark
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My best free advice is this - piss into the wind. If the stream goes right, you short the market and f it goes left you go long.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:40 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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Wow !! So he bet red , black AND even green on the roulette wheel.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 04:37 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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He put it all on PURPLE

 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:44 | Link to Comment PowerPlayer
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It is absolutely amazing how wrong this guy can be.  I have made considerable money doing the opposite of what he says to do.  How is this guy still employed?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:51 | Link to Comment TheRideNeverEnds
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He is correct though, the line held, it was a perfect bounce from the bottom of the channel we have been trading in for over a year and this afternoon we broke though the 20 day moving average, tomorrow or some time this week when we explode through the 50 day its off to the races then what?

 

He admitted that he was wrong, when will the bears admit they are wrong?  tonight as we trade through 1800?  When we trade past 1900, 2000, or 2200 later this year? Maybe next year as we pass 3000? 

 

New highs are just a formality at this point.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:03 | Link to Comment deflator
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New highs are just a formality at this point.

No question mark on that statement? although I agree that they need higher markets to chase away their deflation demons, they will inevitably overshoot and cause a fat tail on the high side.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:21 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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When you take your morning walk tomorrow, don’t forget your dowsing rods to conclude falling knives or dead cat bounce market prediction.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:08 | Link to Comment Nutflush60
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You need to survive what is shaping up to being rocky earnings in Q1.  However, if the market does that, you could see new highs by May.

However, with slowing auto and housing, I do not think the market gets past Q1 earnings.

 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 02:25 | Link to Comment TheRideNeverEnds
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About every company that matters has already released their earnings and no matter if they were good, bad or neutral most of the stocks are now higher.   Face it; we are going substantially higher from here.  The chance of us NOT touching 1900 before the next shitty pullback of a few points is wrapped around zero. 

 

You are faced with two options, buy them here or wait and buy them at higher prices.  Basically just like he said, you can buy a little more, you can buy a lot more or you can hold onto what you have now.  Selling is not even a rational consideration, unless you are an idiot and just like to lose your money in which case sure, sell them here and buy em back a few percent higher in a week or whatever.

 

Seriously its not hard, I know we have been over this before; just close your eyes and buy the dip.  Its so easy a monkey could do it. 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 08:14 | Link to Comment Nutflush60
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1. I have never talked to you before

2. I was talking about Q1 EPS. 

 

Never saw much good happen when the market is trading near all-time highs and the economy is slowing simulataneously. 

 

Think about GM inventories-and how lower production will flow through the economy.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 04:27 | Link to Comment BeetleBailey
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LOL...just keep thinking that.

 

I love these perma-bulls.

 

You are banking on NOTHING of any sort of consequence happening in the coming 3 years.

 

Nothing.

 

LOL

 

Sure...OK pal....

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:54 | Link to Comment beavertails
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May I point out even a broken clock is correct twice a day, such Stolper almost calling the USD/Cdn dollar within 200 pips of correct earlier.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-27/goldman-reveals-top-trade-reco-...

It is all about defending the Bond Yield, all else be damned, stocks can go down and gold can go up now that there are cushions for them.

Can't wait for the YFG tomorrow. Not Your Fu*kin Goddess "YellenForwardGuidance".

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:56 | Link to Comment Judge Crater
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The website silverdoctors.com disagrees with Gartman.

"The United States is fast racking up characteristics of a Third World nation. Its finances are Third World. Its president is Third World. Its banking integrity is Third World. Its absent industry is Third World. Its decaying cities are Third World. It urgently begs for a Third World currency, but that is soon to be remedied. The nation has been a freeloader on the global reserve currency for too long."

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:04 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Ask 8 ball

 

Q: Will the stock market drop?

A: Concentrate and ask again.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:21 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Gartman:  "Honestly, a goldfish or a lab rat with half it's brain cut out could do better than me, but they aren't on CNBC, nor are they paid cold hard cash."

Add him to the "hanging tree" list of worthless, soul-less, gutless charlatans who misdirect and mime for mammon.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:27 | Link to Comment Notarocketscientist
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"I am WRONG ---- therefore I EXIST"  Dennis Gartman

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:38 | Link to Comment Frank -THE COIN -
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We are at a short term 50 % retracement to the high and are forming the Right Shoulder of a Head and Shoulders. If Yellen cooperates the elevator shaft is empty on the way down.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:51 | Link to Comment gwar5
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Gartman is all mouth. The only ones worse at making calls is the FED itself. 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 01:07 | Link to Comment Leveraged Algorithm
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FUCK GARTMAN........SIMPLE ISN'T IT.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 01:09 | Link to Comment AUD
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He's just bending in the wind. Is that a crime?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 02:06 | Link to Comment Godisanhftbot
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 He is LONG OF BULLSHIT

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 02:08 | Link to Comment Godisanhftbot
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 The good news is, Gartman always has the aspect of someone who was a phony windbag, so anyone with 1/2 a brain, (this eliminates most of you ) was never fooled.

 

PS bitcoin blows.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 03:36 | Link to Comment Rising Sun
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Financial media is mostly made up crap - the equivalent of one of those $9.99 Sidney Sheldon trash novels from the 1990s.

 

I stopped watching this bullshit years ago - if you want to make  money in the markets, get yourself a charting program and a trading account and learn how it's done.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 06:24 | Link to Comment realWhiteNight123129
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Time to short the Equities, slowly first.

 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 07:21 | Link to Comment El Hosel
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Short that stock at a medium pace...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLm5oSJRxIU

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 07:23 | Link to Comment GrinandBearit
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I made a small fortune fading this idiot... Jim Cramer too.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 08:52 | Link to Comment ThisIsBob
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Trolling CNBC to find people to make fun of is so easy even a cave man could do it.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 08:55 | Link to Comment t0mmyBerg
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Gartman's trading calls are often not that great.  That said his letter is very interesting and full of great facts I would be hard pressed to get at any other way.  As for the stance on equities, Gartman has a set of rules, which he puts out in his Thanksgiving letter that are very good.  One of them is to trade with the trend.  The trend in equities is obviously up as the Fed executes its bizarre contortions to support the system.  Note I am and have been a bear the whole time.  Fortunately I did not sell em at any point in the past year during endless QE.  One of his rules is if the the trend is up you can have only one of 3 positions, very long, long or neutral.  I do not see anything wrong with that.

Gartman is an old floor trader and getting fairly old and so kind of kerflumpety.  So dont watch him on CNBC.  But his letter as I said is great reading, just ignore his trading advice.  Not that hard, I ignore everyones trading advice, even guys on the floor who I know are amazing traders (there are still some but precious few as time goes by - last thing I did before leaving Chicago was go down with the kids to show them the floors at the old CBOT building - you now have to be an industry insider to have them let you in after 9/11 - the country has turned to shit - stream of consciousness now fading...)

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 09:28 | Link to Comment Carl Popper
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I am bored with Gartman bashing.  

 

The final insult and consignment to ignominy is when you ignore him now

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 09:41 | Link to Comment mendolover
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They really love this guy at CNBS.  Looks like Cramer is long Gartman.  Up Gartman's ass!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 10:21 | Link to Comment OldPuck1980
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Barnum and Bailey of the 21st century!! There is a ...... born everyday!!!!

 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 10:50 | Link to Comment Larryonlineforex
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