Martin Armstrong On The (Imminent) Economics Of War

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"What jumps out at you from the data concerning war is very simplistic – war does not unfold when everyone is fat and happy.

 

Turn the economy down and war rises just as we are seeing wide-scale civil unrest.

 

These trends go hand in hand.

 

Government often NEEDS war because when the people get angry, they go after government.

 

In self-defense, government ALWAYS needs to blame some other country or group."

 

-Martin Armstrong

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Mon, 02/10/2014 - 19:59 | 4421839 Zadok
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But of course they do...Otherwise, they get strung up for their crimes. Ultimate irony.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:03 | 4421855 Arius
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this guy is just an anti -goldman kind of guy ... light weight

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:27 | 4421930 So Close
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Given the simple truth of this... what does it say about society?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:32 | 4421960 Arius
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what society?

you mean serfs?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:37 | 4421975 Dick Buttkiss
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Why, of course the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. … But after all, it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country.

Nazi Reichsmarschall Hermann Goering; see WikiQuote here: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hermann_Göring; additional background here: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/235519.html

 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:59 | 4422048 Keyser
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More people are waking up and calling bullshit on the establishment. Case in point, the backlash from constituents sent the message loud and clear that Americans did not want a war with Syria. The people are less likely to follow the war drums, especially if it's Obama sounding the call to war. TPTB will have to find another boogieman to rally the people against. My guess it will be an alien false-flag to scare the shit out of the sheeple and start a stampede to the government's tit. 

 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:04 | 4422067 KnightTakesKing
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Agree except the aliens (in truth, demonic fallen angels) aren't a false flag. US Government's been collaborating with them for a long time now.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:20 | 4422116 Mister Kitty
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What a bunch of bullshit.  What?  Are we souless chimps.  Bastards.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:27 | 4422132 Anusocracy
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Gotta take advantage of that ingroup-outgroup moral divide when the domestic government is on the verge of becoming an outgroup itself.

People have to realize that government is always the outgroup that is the most dangerous.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:53 | 4422232 f16hoser
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Not this time. We're on to the little buggers!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 22:11 | 4422316 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Where's Dick Cheney when you need to start another senseless war.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 22:23 | 4422369 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Anyone else notice that Cheney seems to have permanent snarl on his face. This must be normal for psychopaths I guess.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:08 | 4422568 Jack Burton
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For many soldiers the Vietnam war was an on the ground blood soaked hell hole, Mr. "war monger" Cheney sought and got deferment after deferement to avoid any service in the US military at that time, all the while a firm advocate of the war. Like Bush, well known for his pro-Vietnam war stance, Cheney found a way out, at a time when many young kids enlisted willingly and millions were drafted and served as orderd.

Now these two, Bush and Cheney both,are super patriots. And many Americans, to this day, believe Bush and Cheney to be patriots of the highest order. Both are fuckers, one is a coward, the other is still AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard.

Cheney is an evil fuck. Bush was a clown and a puppet, much like Obama. Both simply follow orders from the elite rulers behind the scenes. The thing is with Cheney is he IS one of those elite rulers behind the scenes. HE is a string puller, and Obama dances, just like Bush, to the Cheney tune. Cheney is up to his lips with the corporate military industrial complex. He chose not to fight for America, but he dose choose to gain profits from America's wars instead.

 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:12 | 4422729 Dick Buttkiss
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Whoever down-voted you no doubt thinks Snowden is a traitor. Poor slob. Enough like him and there's no hope.

But there is, as the deciding factor need not be anywhere near a majority:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 01:22 | 4422894 Canoe Driver
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Exactly. Why do you think the Congress will not protest Executive Orders? It's not because they are scared of Obama.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 07:28 | 4423242 Moe Howard
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Obama didn't even register for the draft.

 

What's your war record, btw? Just wondering.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:06 | 4422070 johny2
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the sheep will be sheep.

 

try and tell someone that the reason for the state of the human society as it, is design of the financial system. In most of the cases they will tell you it is too complex and they prefer to talk about less complex issues. Just as intended.

 

“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”

- banned commentator

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:30 | 4422146 Professorlocknload
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Voltaire was banned?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:36 | 4422171 johny2
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posthumously.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:52 | 4422236 jimmytorpedo
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Wasn't Voltaire on CNN just last Tuesday?

That guy is worse than Marc Faber.

Doom porn and hogging the limelight.

Don't worry,...be happy.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 22:19 | 4422348 johny2
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Is there anything to watch on CNN?

Anyway, Voltaire was a great writter. Some things he got right and at the same time he was completely deluded about other things. The quote above was one of the things he got right. Taylor had to ban some of the most enlightening commentators, and Voltaire for sure would last short time as a commentator here.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 22:58 | 4422508 Dick Buttkiss
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"Voltaire for sure would last short time as a commentator here."

Why would that be?

"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets."

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

"The art of government is to make two-thirds of a nation pay all it possibly can pay for the benefit of the other third."

"It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong."

"It is lamentable that to be a good patriot one must become the enemy of the rest of mankind."

Just getting warmed up.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 01:37 | 4422920 StychoKiller
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Candide: "Tend to your garden(s)."

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:11 | 4422078 ACP
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Obama's inability to start a foreign war is exactly why he is trying to start a civil war in the US, starting with internal strife here and there and ending up with an actual war war.

Buying weapons to kill your own citizens can work well also, as well as letting in tons of killers and others who want to destroy it.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:26 | 4422617 analyzer_66
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War on white and dark man. Machiavelli singing in the background.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:28 | 4422143 Mr Lucky
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No, the war with Syria was stopped not by Americans objecting, but by the skillful diplomacy of Putin.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:49 | 4422218 LMAOLORI
Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:11 | 4422585 Jack Burton
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Latest figures show Syrian rebels come from dozens of different nations. As many as 1,400 +  Europeans are fighting as Al-Qaeda troops in the Syrian democratic revolution. Video threats have already been made by some of these Europeans against their home countries, calling for terror attacks and Jihad in Belgium, Britain, France, Germany and Scandinavia after their return to Europe. In response to these threats, David Cameron of Britain has called for more arms, money and intelligence support for these rebels. Cameron is a dupe of Israel, Saudi Arabia and the USA. The triple alliance of Al-Qaeda funders.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:59 | 4422262 yogibear
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That pissed-off the Saudis and Israel. Obama and Lurch thought the Syrian war was in the bag. Guess Putin figured out the dumb and dumber game.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 01:50 | 4422947 WTFUD
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@yogibear
'piss on the saudis'
Lurch, i like that!
Lurch-a-lot, me thinks; most apt.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 10:20 | 4423557 gruden
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How about starvation?  Hunger focuses the mind better than anything.  If the military is the only outfit that guarantees 3 square meals for the masses, enlistment will jump, which becomes fodder for the next big war.  We've had drought for many years, and these engineered snowstorms aren't going to help the situation.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:29 | 4421934 NoDebt
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Fine, you pass him by.  I'll take him on my team.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:42 | 4421991 Son of Captain Nemo
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And those that created this mess and are ready to take us to the next biggest war know they will never have to worry.

Not with the crowd in this Nation of ours that is more concerned with who will win the Superbowl, NBA finals or the catching last episode of "Downton Abbey" as their real worth continues to plummet to the center of the earth like the meltdown in Fukushima -thanks to those bankers!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:27 | 4422140 midtowng
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Very true, but the wrong picture. That isn't a Nazi flag. You'd think the guy would know that.

It's the Soviet flag over Kiev when they took back the city from the Nazis.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 00:30 | 4422797 Jack Burton
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It is the Soviet Flag, but it is the Soviet flag put up over the Riksdag in Berlin in May 1945. This photo was not the  red flag that was raised by the first soldiers to reach the Riksdag roof, but was a little later that day when a big proper Red Flag was brought up by different soldiers and photographed by others. The original soldiers never were recognized for their flag raising until recently when Russian TV found one of them and carried the real story. Kiev was taken much earlier at the very end of 1943 I think.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:00 | 4421843 101 years and c...
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its true.  9/11.  US been in a "war on terror" since.  problem is, we've been fighting the wrong people. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:09 | 4421878 SilverRhino
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If we'd just gone ahead and nuked Mecca and Medina, exterminated the muslims and occupied Saudi Arabia that whole area would already be pacified. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:21 | 4421912 Supernova Born
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They hate our freedom from employment.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:57 | 4422256 CaptainObvious
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+6.6% (or should I use the non-BLS numbers?  +24.9%)

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 23:15 | 4422589 Jack Burton
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We could all find work, if we just were willing to work for less. Market forces set wages, in 2014, we must match a Chinese workers wage, or go without a job. Unless we work for government, then we have no problems, get big pay, cost of living raises, health care, vacation and early retirement. It's only fair, no?

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:31 | 4421948 seek
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If that actually happened we'd likely be experiencing either daily suicide bombings within the US, or a full-blown papers-please on every corner police state.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:16 | 4422107 john39
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Muslims=red herring

Satanic central banking system is the issue.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:16 | 4422111 Stoploss
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LOL!!!

 

It's only Monday...

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:28 | 4422145 midtowng
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That statement is so monumentally stupid

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:38 | 4422176 Professorlocknload
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Rummy?

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 06:26 | 4431580 Frankie Carbone
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God bless you son. Jesus is smiling upon you.

No really, you're just as wicked as the bankers and there's a special door for you and them to go through once you step in front of the Pearly Gates.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:22 | 4421913 seabiscuit
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Let's not forget the war on poverty and then the war on drugs.

 

The war ON drugs. Perhaps the only way to conceive of a war.

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 21:59 | 4422259 jimmytorpedo
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War on drugs?

What, did your ounce of weed go to jail?

More blacks are incarcerated than were enslaved.

It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on people.

ps I don't have time to drug myself, but if I did have the time, I think I would dedicate it to sex!

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 22:07 | 4422294 yogibear
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But we have Lyndon Baines Johnson's Great Society. 

Mon, 02/10/2014 - 20:03 | 4421846 stant
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brother can you spare another war

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