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"Dear John, It's Over!" - Tea Party Group Launches "Replace Boehner" Petition

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Having folded (twice) once again, a growing number of Republicans are increasingly disavowed with Speaker Boehner. As WaPo reports, the Senate Conservatives Fund (a Tea Party group) is calling for the Speaker's job, noting "unless we install a new leader who will actually go on offense, Democrats will never fear us and we will never have any leverage." The group is launching a petition that seeks to encourage at least 15 House Republicans to refuse to support Boehner for speaker...

 

 

Partial text of the e-mail (via Washington Post):

Republicans are giving up because they know that winning is impossible when their leaders are determined to lose. These leaders have telegraphed weakness to the Democrats and sabotaged conservative efforts so many times that Republicans now have no leverage. There's only one solution.

 

John Boehner must be replaced as Speaker of the House.

 

Conservatives helped Republicans win a majority in the House of Representatives, which made it possible for John Boehner to become Speaker. Unfortunately, he has chosen to ignore us and help President Obama enact his liberal agenda.

 

...

 

Unless we install a new leader who will actually go on offense, Democrats will never fear us and we will never have any leverage.

 

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read more here

The group is launching a petition that seeks to encourage at least 15 House Republicans to refuse to support Boehner for speaker -- a move that would deprive him of a majority of the House and shake up the process.

 

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Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:38 | 4424461 vortmax
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Fuck you Boehner!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:40 | 4424479 fonestar
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Is this exciting news?  What did they expect, he's another party hack reading his lines.  Only to be replaced with another hack like Cruz who speaks libertarian up until the moment they have to vote on something.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:45 | 4424486 AlaricBalth
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You must be referring to the Demorepublicrat party. 

This is the party platform:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/01/06/933864/-Governance-By-A-Single-...



  1. The only thing that is good for the country is what is good for big business.


  2. I will fight to protect my right to profit.


  3. There are only winners and losers in life, we are the winners.


  4. If it is good for me, it is not hypocrisy.


  5. I will not hesitate to kill to maintain my status.


  6. All men are equal, if they hold the price of admission.


  7. A deal is a deal, if I say it is.


  8. A deals is not a deal, if I say it isn't.


  9. Critical thinking is for losers.


  10. Losers should die.        
Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:48 | 4424506 HyBrasilian
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The only thing we need to 'tear' is 'tear' itself...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:25 | 4424692 The Limerick King
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The party is over for John

His party is now catching on

The end may be near

But don't shed a tear

For this bright orange liberal pawn

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:30 | 4424704 negative rates
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The reason given was that it was an election year. Now that's what I call covering your margins.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:41 | 4424764 SilverIsKing
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It's obvious that someone has something on this guy.  

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:53 | 4424804 boogerbently
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Just a WILD guess, here.

But, do you think the GOP and Tea/Indy will split the votes, allowing the Dems to win, again???????

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:54 | 4424821 Surly Bear
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Signed. *checks for drones*

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:23 | 4424926 MonsterBox
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Re-elect No One!!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 17:09 | 4425100 Stackers
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Everyone should be made to watch Mr Smith Goes to Washington for a refresher on how things really work in DC

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 19:47 | 4425807 monad
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Everyone should read By Way of Deception: The Making of a Mossad Officer by Ostrovsky to figure out whats going on, and what the crying man is probably crying about, and why he's even still there. 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:06 | 4424871 ejmoosa
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The democrats have been winning since Boehner has been Speaker.

 

So what's the difference, besides the "perception"  that we have a two-party system?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:59 | 4425075 max2205
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Where do I sign?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 17:50 | 4425271 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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Boehner is a great example of infiltration by the opposition.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:30 | 4424705 Four chan
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he sucks dicks, what a pusswad.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:07 | 4424591 Lost Word
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I agree that Democrats and Republicans are both to blame for the mess.

War-mongering Lying Democrat Obama, an Un-Constitutional Non-Natural Born citizen illegitimate fraud President,

which neither party will admit to this Un-Constitutional fraud,

and neither Republicans nor Democrats willing to say the truth about the criminal Government,

and the US Government's most recent monstrous crime of the 9-11 Inside Job terror attack,

in a long history of Government crimes,

apparently because everyone in Government is afraid of the Lying Liberal News Media Establishment, and the Totalitarian Military Establishment and Police State.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:29 | 4424708 Larry Dallas
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He is a big pussy. He cries, looks scared everytime he's on camera, etc. He just looks like he's prepared to lose.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:10 | 4424599 williambanzai7
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Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:22 | 4424676 JamesBond
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Is that a weeping willow he's standing under?

jb

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:40 | 4424749 Freewheelin Franklin
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I used to have pants like that back in the 80s. But I only wore them when I was on stage jammin. 

 

The boots suck. Gotta have python or diamond back boots.

 

The jacket ain't too bad, but the faggot scarf and hipster hat have to go. 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:52 | 4424800 Pooper Popper
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I signed it

that piece of shit has to go!!!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:40 | 4424987 kralizec
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Not that elections are fair, not that all votes count or are equal...not that pretend republicanism exists any longer...but wtf we have to entertain ourselves with while the nation goes into the shitter?  Kick that shit to the curb!  Woo hoo!!!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 21:14 | 4426155 Shazam342
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Boehnor should have been replaced after Debt Ceiling 2011.  It's 2014!  Also, why were the national leaders of the Tea Party unwilling to put their own stamp on the Presidential Primaries in 2012? The movement has paid a huge price by cooperating with the monied classes (Established classes) of the GOP.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 21:17 | 4426166 eatthebanksters
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He just another elite who thinks he knows more and better than his constituents...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 21:24 | 4426188 sgorem
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@vortmax, i agree, but instead of just Boner, how 'bout "FUCK THEM ALL!!!" The WHOLE government, especially CONgress, is infested with unaccountable, theiving, lying, fraudulent, malfeasant, spineless, overpaid, contemptible, power hungry, devisive, derisive, ass kissing, back stabbing, LiberoConservative bullshitters, with a large dose of alcoholics, drug users, and lawyers, along with insider trading, cronyism, and bribed to the hilt oxygen wasting pieces of shit..........other than that, it IS time for the Crying Orange Man to go.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:37 | 4424466 Rukeysers Ghost
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It's over? I don't ever remember it beginning with this squish Progressive loser.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:40 | 4424467 ThroxxOfVron
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Careful now...exactly WHO would the 'Tea Party' replace Bonehead with?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:45 | 4424485 Gringo Viejo
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Known to break out weeping for no apparent reason.

Yeah, this is a guy you want at the top, right?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:06 | 4424578 Headbanger
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Why replace him with Rick Santelli, of course!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:11 | 4424614 Son of Loki
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Boehner leaderless qualities have been largely due to...the weather!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:13 | 4424619 NotApplicable
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Oooh, that could make CSPAN fun.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:26 | 4424944 Headbanger
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Oh yeah!!  I would pay to see that!

And Ted Nugent in the Senate or whatever the fuck he wants to do along with Sarah!

And Jesse Ventura in the Senate or President!

And get Condalisa s Rice back to  kicking some butt hard as VP, Secretary of State, seducing (literally!) Vlad into submission

These are the leaders this country desperately needs now!

 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:39 | 4424992 Flakmeister
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Got to find a place for Michelle Bachmann...

Umm... Secretary of Education?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:52 | 4425031 Headbanger
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No no no... Secretary of Health and Human Services cause she's got so many adopted kids!

That should keep her busy and out of the way!

And come to think of  it... Sarah Palin should be Secretary of The Interior. Mean after all she's all in camo and hunting grizzly..  Perfect!

And while we're at it... Let's make Glenn Beck Secretary of Edumacation cause he sure has a talent with them black boards !!

And fuck you trolls cause it's gonna hit you on the skull wicked hard soon!

 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 17:08 | 4425099 LMAOLORI
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MB was actually against arming rebels in Syria so she has some good moments where she is.

 

snip...

"U.S. Representative Michele Bachmann, a Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, said she had not been aware that the panel had agreed the White House could move forward.

"It was made to look as though there is a quote 'consensus' of the committee," she told Reuters. "I did not agree to this in any way."

Bachmann predicted U.S. support would end up aiding Islamist rebel groups that are sympathetic to al Qaeda.

"And now we're actually going to overtly, intentionally, fund jihadists?" she said. "This is beyond madness."

 

http://townhall.com/news/politics-elections/2013/07/23/us-arming-of-syri...

 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 17:12 | 4425114 Flakmeister
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Gettting 2 questions right on a 20 question exam is considered an epic fail by most if not all measures...

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 07:15 | 4427334 GetZeeGold
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According to Commie Core......that's a passing grade.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 17:28 | 4425193 Headbanger
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Thank you!  Good points made on behalf of MB.   I wish she would have been more of that image instead of trying to compete with Sarah Palin on her own turf.

I only wish we would see a more cohesive GOP of the likes of Condi Rice and Rick Santelli  to run against these pinko commie, bed wetting, fag, lib tareds like ugggghh Hitlery!!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 18:30 | 4425459 LMAOLORI
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Your welcome my favorite Ted Nugent

 

The Journey to the Center of the Mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN2VNFpiGWo

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 18:55 | 4425575 Urban Redneck
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She worked for the IRS for about HALF A DECADE.

You know that Department of the Executive Branch with such nutty fascist practices as:

Automatic and presumed guilt until proven innocent at the defendant's expense

Civil forfeiture of private property without due process of law

I'd sooner vote for Bob Byrd in full KKK regalia than an IRS agent.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 21:30 | 4426219 sgorem
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"Got to find a place for Michelle Bachmann...

Umm... Secretary of Education?"......................How 'bout "Undersexitary of Dicktation?"....oh well.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 18:04 | 4425338 Lost Word
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Unfortunately, Condoleezza Rice is a Neo-Con Vulcan, a part of the treasonous Cabal that orchestrated and conducted the 9-11 Inside Job False Flag terror attack.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:16 | 4424629 wee-weed up
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Great news! Throw his spineless crybaby-ass out! Can't happen fast enough!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:45 | 4424501 CrazyCooter
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Um ...

... to encourage at least 15 House Republicans to refuse to support Boehner for speaker ...

... does not sound like a majority powerful enough to make that decision.

Regards,

Cooter

 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:54 | 4424522 monad
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Who is the most flaming closet homo submissive in the RNC?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:55 | 4424530 Rukeysers Ghost
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Who is the most flaming closet homo submissive in the RNC?

 

Wrench Pubic? I mean Reince Priebus?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:14 | 4424628 NotApplicable
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All of them?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:58 | 4424529 NOTaREALmerican
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Someone who likes manly socialism like Big-MIC, Big-AG, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-AntiDrug, and Big-PoliceState.

Somewho who doesn't want big government intruding into the lives of people where it doesn't belong, unless it as to do with proper usage of the genitals.

Somewho who wants small government; but manly socialism is an investment in our children's future, so isn't really socialism - so is ok.

Somewho who understands that the OldFarts aren't really getting free government health care,  because that would be socialism and we know that the OldFarts won WW2 and are entitled to free medical care but those goddamn lazy hippy bastards aren't.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:05 | 4424564 graneros
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At least they are making an attempt.  I don't know who they have in mind but it shouldn't be that difficult as my scrotum would be a better choice. Not to mention being more pleasant than his crying face to look at.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:16 | 4424644 Stoploss
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Hopefully someone with a pair of testicles.

Speaking of which, it might have been easier to have castrated the Giraffe, and given his balls to Boehner, instead of shooting it and dismembering it in front of children.

That way, the giraffe would still be alive unable to reproduce, and Boehner could have had a set of nice big furry balls...

But, fuck no, castrating undesirables does not instill the FEAR OF GOVERNMENT quite like the little display we have been witness to of late.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:11 | 4424886 Clark Bent
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Issa, Kurt Gowdy, Jason Chaffetz, David Camp, most anyone from Texas. 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:39 | 4424473 blabam
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Petition here , petition there... nobody gives a fuck.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:50 | 4424516 krispkritter
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Can't we just order him a nailgun?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:41 | 4424476 fijisailor
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What is ZH now?  Some useless political red/blue rag

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:44 | 4424483 greatbeard
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Now? If I'm not mistaken this place has been solidly a red state for eons. 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:58 | 4424533 CrashisOptimistic
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You are mistaken.  ZH is an equal opportunity hater of both sides.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:03 | 4424567 Flakmeister
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Not really, the Repubs get far more love here....

If an "election was held here fro 2012, RP would have gotten ~54%, Mittens 45% and O 1%.... 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:08 | 4424586 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  the Repubs get far more love here

Very true.   "Conservatives" voting for the Red Team is as humorous as the "Progressives" voting Blue Team.  

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:58 | 4424837 NoDebt
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When was ZH born?  2009.

Might be Republican-leaning bias (doubt it), might be conservative-leaning bias (probably), might just be bias against whoever the current dipshits are in charge at the time (which has been Obama and the Dems the whole time this website has been in existance).

If they bias toward conservatism with a splash of libertarian values, I can live with that.

Mostly I'd like to see them be an equal opportunity head-cracking operation.  The day they stray too far from that, I'm gone and I won't be back.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:21 | 4424925 Son of Loki
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Boehner has not capitalized on Barry's lowest public approval rating in history...how lame is that!? He needs to step down...for the Good of the Party, of course.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:41 | 4424999 Flakmeister
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If only because the institution that he is speaker for has an approval rating on par with Tuberculosis, dog vomit and anal warts...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:14 | 4424627 Overfed
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I voted for RP not because he was a Republican, but because he was the only candidate selling anything different, and his refusal to endorse Ro-money speaks volumes.

Fuck your Red Team/Blue team false paradigm. I wouldn't have voted for Ro-money or McStain under any circumstance, nor did I ever vote for O'bomb-a.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:26 | 4424686 Flakmeister
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You are free to vote however you like, but the US has been a two-party system for a long time...

Deal with it...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:37 | 4424730 Overfed
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It's a one-party system now, has been for some time. Deal with it.....

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:15 | 4424897 Flakmeister
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Just as soon as 1/2 the party accepts that there different lifestyles and life choices that can be made...

Not to mention when 1/2 of the party learns to accept science...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:46 | 4425007 Urban Redneck
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Is that like the half of the Democratic party that hasn't learned the basic science that any "gizmo making machine" creates the same amount of pollution regardless of whether it is located in the USSA or China (although the production of BTU's in China to operate that gizmo maker might be even more harmful for the environment than equal BTU production in the USSA)?

Or is that like the half of the Democratic party that hasn't learned the basic science that human life must being prior to the end of some arbitrary 38 week gestation period?

Face it Flak- your love of science isn't respected in either whorehouse, but perhaps you could start the Empiricist or Rationalist Party (but I'm not sure which side of that schism you really belong on).

As long there is only one real party (3/2 of which denies science), there is only one real lifestyle choice - slavery (aka a denial of sovereignty over one's own body).

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:59 | 4425072 Flakmeister
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Lay off the strawmen....

Or don;t make them so obvious...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 17:41 | 4425239 Urban Redneck
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If I didn't make the straw men glaringly obvious it would have went right over the heads of the sheeple, which would have deprived them of possibly of seeing the hypocrisy of the pro-slavery positions of the party that likes to brag about its famous fascist member who supposedly fought to outlaw slavery.

FWIW - I think you're right about the Republitards (often) not getting the thrashing they deserve, but for the life of me I'm not sure why, since ideological congruity (with either "party") is impossible when there is no actual ideology to agree to. But then I'm a nutcase living a country with a dozen political parties and I have serious reservations about ALL of them, yet I'm not an anarchist.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 17:55 | 4425293 Flakmeister
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Fine. I am also pissed off with how the system is working but my vision is not clouded to who's actions are doing the most damage and the games that they play...

BTW, ideology is the last thing you should be using as a governing principle, you get backed into corners or you do in things in a half-assed way... 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 18:35 | 4425474 Urban Redneck
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Thanks for the correction. Ideology was very sloppy word choice on my part. Perhaps consistency either intellectually or in the espoused values (other than greed or MOAR power to the Dear Leader club).

"Values" also has some undesirable linguistic baggage, but c'est la vie.

It is the hypocrisy, and then the inevitable subsequent denial of hypocrisy that really annnoys me.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 17:49 | 4425269 Overfed
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Oh fuck.....We have an encroaching police state, corruption and cronyism so endemic that they don't even hide it any more, we're pretty much guilty until proven innocent. The police are militarized, we have entaglements all over the world that breed a hate for the US which will last for generations, new taxes every fuckin' year, more new laws curtailing our freedom every fuckin' year and on and on and on.

Gay marriage, abortion and the creationism vs. evolution arguments are wedge issues for fucking idiots. That shit don't mean shit in the grand scheme of things, dude. Pull your fuckin' head out and figure out what's actually important. Let's worry about reclaiming our country from the oligarchy and then we can adddress the crisis of buttfucking, baby killing, and whether or not God is dead. Fuck!!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 18:01 | 4425307 Flakmeister
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So why don't the Repubs drop the wedge issues and discuss the real ones?

It wasn't the Dems that made Gay Marriage such an issue? For example, maybe you should read up on the GOP in Ohio in 2004....

And it is not the Dems calling for trans-vaginal ultrasounds....

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 18:07 | 4425357 Overfed
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WHO gives a fuck, man!?  I don't fuckin' care about that shit in the slightest. I care that none of 'em want to repeal the "Patriot" Act. I care that none of them want to abolish DHS, TSA, BATF and 50 other freedom strangling, unaccountable, untouchable federal agencies. I care that none of them want to end the welfare/warfare state. I care that not one single one of those motherfuckers wants to give back one single freedom that has been eliminated in the "Wars on terror, poverty, drugs, violence, racism, or whatever freedom killing program they're using this week". I don't give a little bit of a fuck about gay marriage. Or abortion. Or evolution. 'Cause at the end of the day, those things don't mean shit if you're living in a totalitarian police state. Which we damn near are.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 18:24 | 4425429 Flakmeister
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Wow, so you don't know any women or gays?

By the way, you are fucking clueless if you think the US is even close to totalitarian police state.... Try talking to a North Korean or a Soviet era refugee...

That being said, the Prison-industrial-complex and the NSA are completely out of hand....

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 18:38 | 4425476 Overfed
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Yeah, I know some women and gays. More of the former, fewer of the latter. Most of 'em have enough sense to not pretend that abortion and/or gay marriage are issues of national importance.

We are but a hair's breadth from a full-on police state. A Fed can kill you or me at will, as can some local, county or state cops, depending on where you are. Other feds can destroy you financially at will, should you get in the sights of one of them.

BTW, have you driven near the US-Mexico border lately? How do ya' like them checkpoints? How about the drug/dui checkpoints? Nevermind trying to board an airplane.

You need permission to get married, no matter what your orientation.

You need permission (if you can get it) to build something on your own land, which isn't yours because it's taxed in perpetuity. You can be pulled over, ticketed, and shaken-down for talking on the phone while driving or not wearing your seatbelt. If they have a "trained" dog with 'em, your fucked 'cause if that cop sets off his dog, you're gonna get your vehicle trashed and your gonna get strip-searched at the very least.

How much more police state do you need?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:17 | 4424899 Clark Bent
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It went multi-party for a few years before the last Civil War. And the crisis of these times is far more significant than slavery, oh wait, it is slavery all over again. Like it always is. 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:39 | 4424755 ThroxxOfVron
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"I voted for RP not because he was a Republican, but because he was the only candidate selling anything different"

 

At least You are cognizant of the fact Ron Paul was just another politician trying to make a sale...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:11 | 4424605 NOTW777
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my guess 70% of ZHers voted for obama twice.  many of the posters (and some contributors) expressing outrage today were praising dear leader not that long ago

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:46 | 4424780 NOTW777
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see there are 3 now

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:31 | 4424962 AvoidingTaxation
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Only loosers could vote for Obomba. I mean Berry is a Joke. Obummer like bathtubs. Odrone will drone you. Barack Hussein Obama. What a strange name for an american president. I mean, are we kidding? Why not Cheyenne Farida Nkufo?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:20 | 4424666 NotApplicable
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Never. That's just your imagination at work, still believing in the false lefty-righty divide.

I'd say ZH is mostly those who recognize the trap. Otherwise, I'd keep really busy, constantly ridiculing the statist sheeple who believe it's anything other than a divide and conquer con-game.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:18 | 4424909 Flakmeister
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Zh consists of mainly people living in some kind of denial of how things really work...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:43 | 4425001 MisterMousePotato
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For the benefit of those who might be new, Flak is referring to the refusal of many on this site to accept that the science of global warming is 'settled'.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 17:05 | 4425093 Flakmeister
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No, they live in some kind of weird denial about how the constitution was written and implemented vis a vis the governing of the country.. 

Madison et al underestimated the spitefullness that factionalism could create. This is not a parlimentary system...

BTW, it has been settled a long time, measuring the earth's long wave IR emission spectrum in 1969 settled that bit...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 17:10 | 4425116 MisterMousePotato
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(See what I mean?)

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 17:18 | 4425140 Flakmeister
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Yep, just like Quantum Electodynamics was basically settled in the 40's...

Not my fault if you are incapable of deductive inference....

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 17:40 | 4425240 PeterSchump
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"Yep, just like Quantum Electodynamics was basically settled in the 40's..."

 

Is that the power O summoned to win relelection?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 18:29 | 4425454 Flakmeister
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No, it was the Republicans who somehow created a wrinkle in space-time that enabled themselves to jam their heads up their asses...

Seriously, if the Republicans could not come up with someone to beat BHO in 2012, they are fucking doomed as a party...

He was begging to get beat and the best you could come up with was Mittens? That is the equivalent of intellectual bankruptcy....

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 17:58 | 4425316 TuPhat
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If it was so settled, why do they come up with string theory to explain the QED's unexplainable things?  Do you know much about anything Flak?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 18:00 | 4425324 Flakmeister
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So just what is unexplainable in QED?

Please go on, we are all ears...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:06 | 4424572 NOTaREALmerican
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It has been for some time.

You can't have all the anti-Fed posts without bringing in politics.

Most people are waiting for the Rightous Sword of Libertarian Justice to slay the evil Socialists and restore a free market to the USA which will cause gold prices to soar resulting in ZH'er to be the owners of the nation and they'd have first pick of the most desirable females.  

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:20 | 4424669 pods
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I already had first pick of the most desirable females.  You don't need gold for that.

That's how Mrs. pods became Mrs. pods.

 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:21 | 4424918 Flakmeister
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Good for you, but it should be clear that more than few here harbor repressed sexual fantasies....

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:30 | 4424955 pods
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Oh I still harbor those.

:)

pods

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:44 | 4425004 Flakmeister
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But you don't wear them on your sleeve...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 18:03 | 4425328 TuPhat
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I get this one.  You wear your unrepressed sexual fantasies on your sleeve, right?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 18:25 | 4425439 Flakmeister
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Whatsamatta?

Did you suddenly realize that you know absolutely SFA about about QED or string theory?? 

Please lecture us on the shortcomings of QED...

I'll give you a hint, the existence of a Landau Pole ain't really a practical shortcoming...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:26 | 4424697 chubbar
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I know that is what I'm waiting for, not sure about the rest of the gang. I already even have some females picked out.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:06 | 4424585 TheReplacement
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Red on red isn't really a red/blue and what the hell, it is related to the economy since this erupted over the clean debt ceiling bill.

Stupid much?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:42 | 4424482 kito
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wake me when the tea party grows a set and goes third party. its the only way they will gain any momentum. otherwise they are stuck inside the status quo.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:51 | 4424520 Lost Word
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Has any recent third political party been successful on a national scale?

Certainly not the Libertarians as a national political party.

The only chance for the national Tea Party to be victorious is to conquer the national Republican Party from within,

which is why the Tea Party will not separate for a third political party.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:06 | 4424574 Flakmeister
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The Tea Party would vanish like a fart in the wind....

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:07 | 4424592 TheReplacement
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Yeah!  Because... some dude on the internet said so.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:19 | 4424648 kito
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ask yourself whether the tea party would generate more interest to the republicans as a pain in the ass inside party faction or a third party that needs to be wooed pre election?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:58 | 4424832 Flakmeister
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The Tea party effect would be about the same as the George Wallace candidacy...

Some local relevance and completely ignorable on the national level beyond the 2nd order effects from vote splitting...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:03 | 4424860 kito
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maybe today, but as conditions worsen in this country, and im assuming you agree that they will, there will be anger that needs to be directed somewhere, and the tea party will certainly benefit from such anger placement.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:24 | 4424932 Flakmeister
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When your base is slowly dieing off (old white conservative males) and you alieniate the majority of the electorate  you are on the electoral road to nowhere...

But I do not dispute that some local sucesses will be possible for the TP...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:08 | 4424596 Renewable Life
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And you are the reason, or at least your thinking is the reason, why the Tea Party will REMAIN powerless and meaningless!!! Let's review some facts:

- Americans who identify themselves with either of the two parties? 35-40% (A 100 year low)
- Americans that approve of the Congress? 11% (2-3 independent members the rest are GOP and DEM)
- People who say they would vote for a third party candidate for Prez? 55-60% and 75%+ say they would "consider" it!!!!

Now what in these fucking numbers do you see, that indicates that "the people" want more of the same fucking worthless, incompetent, two sided, bull shit politics that has existed for the last 50 years??? Where do you see the GOP rising from the ashes in these numbers to "become the Tea Party"???? You got to be a paid GOP bullshitter or lobbyist to buy into this false reality!!!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:23 | 4424678 Lost Word
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The only opinion poll that is important is the voting booth poll,

and the voting booth poll has not recently supported any third party in any sufficient numbers for victory.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:11 | 4424613 pods
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Then the "tea party" will forever be a safety valve for disillusioned republicans.

Sort of like left leaning democrat splinter groups.

Same shit, other side of the coin.

As long as they keep you believing this system works they don't care who you vote for.

A vote IN the system is a vote FOR the system.

pods

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:23 | 4424672 kito
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the two party system will crumble. it already has begun. again, as per my post below, ask whether the influence of the tea party would be greater pre election as an outside party that suddenly finds itself being wooed by the republicans. ask yourself whether future coalitions could be formed between libertarians and tea partiers. the system is failing, and the tea party, once it realizes how much more wanted it will be as third party, will find itself in much better place. 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:45 | 4424484 ArisAron
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Yeah . . . go ahead and sign their stupid fucking petition and be added to the right wing extremist list. Nobody gives a shit. Can someone please hurry up and light a fucking match to this Hindenburg country???

 

 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:50 | 4425020 MisterMousePotato
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The effort is, apparently, being spearheaded by the Senate Conservatives Fund, Jim Demint's old outfit. Not the typical internet honeypot.

Too, are we not men? Or are we too afraid to stand up and be counted?

"Oh, but I might get on a list." Who was it who wrote about the conditions necessary for evil to flourish? Something about good men doing nothing?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:45 | 4424487 Yen Cross
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     Boner's a spineless establishment limpdick croney douche. The sooner he's gone the better!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:43 | 4424488 Dick Gazinia
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Don't get him pissed.  The last thing you want is a raging boner.  Schwing baby!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:45 | 4424489 One of We
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John, it's not you it's me.  No actually its you.  Pack your shit and get out!

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:43 | 4424491 101 years and c...
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sounds like tea party reps not getting enough bribe money from bankers.  expect their bank accounts to fill up shortly and for this to go away.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:46 | 4424496 tickhound
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WONT.CHANGE.ANYTHING

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:52 | 4425028 MisterMousePotato
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The Senate Conservatives Fund, the outfit apparently behind the effort, has been successful in making changes in the Senate.

I guarantee you that if this petition were to be signed by 50 or 100 million Americans willing to stand up and be counted, well, it will make a difference.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 19:26 | 4425704 tickhound
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"...Petition signed by 100 million Americans" you guarantee a difference.

Lol barely 50 million 'Murikans show up to vote how the hell r u gonna get that many to sign a GD petition.

And even if u did, what would it change besides your taste in meaningless political flavor.. That flavor being the other half of the status quo. Any new savior of your choice is pre-fab anyway. The only thing grass roots about the tea party was its beginning.

Which means it won't change anything.

It won't curb labor cost cutting and automation of the workforce. Or curb..
Inflationary monetary policies. Corporate welfare. An envelop and consume foreign policy. Spying, unwarranted detentions, propaganda or the police state. Make work / job inventions. Suppression of technologies not for your consumption. Won't redirect or guide tech away from scarcity and towards abundance. Excessive consumption. Won't do anything to curb the infinite growth model.

In other words... Besides pacifying the 'other side' and ONCE AGAIN providing the public with a false sense that it can "effect change within" .. You and your imaginary 100 million "enlightened" Americans will be in for some serious disappointment.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:46 | 4424498 kevinearick
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Planning: The Extortion Racket

I’ll tell you what the plan is. The plan is to work with nature so it gives us more to work with. Adaptation; that’s the plan.

I can’t tell you what the weather is going to do five minutes from now, let alone tomorrow or ten years from now. I can tell you with certainty that arbitrarily diverting natural resources to Las Vegas, to build bigger casinos, and to China, to build more lost cities, artificial environmental control, doesn’t make the job any easier. There is no insurance against diversity, change, that does not create greater catastrophes, climate variability.

Empire has been perfecting the natural resource extortion racket, artificial scarcity under its control, for over 5000 years. That is History. Your choice is to comply by example for your children, rebel and teach the empire new tricks, move forward by yourself, or employ the empire as a counterweight. Labor drops the empire on itself, adding weight with each iteration.

The politicians that survive are small time mobsters, collecting individuals into easily identifiable groups and offsetting on against the other, telling them all that they are entitled to equal consumer rights, that producers are the evil that must be forced into correction, by majority rule. The private welfare corporation explicitly exploiting resources is defined as the producer, giving the public welfare corporation regulatory control, which completes the circuit through the untaxed non-profit welfare corporation, netting the Foundation.

Regardless of ism, the cycle is exploit, fallow, exploit, in artificial population booms and busts, transforming control to the empire in both directions, driving government growth with deferred individual responsibility. Isms don’t work because they are not designed to work. They are designed to placate the majority, with confirming words. If government is structured properly, it can control the weather, or at least insure against it, so goes what passes for thinking within the empire. Separation of power, within government, was a myth from the beginning.

As America has gotten dumber, down the same path of all empires, the participants have become increasingly dependent and fearful of  military, as have all of its trading partners, failed empires of the past that must be propped up to exist. The majority railing against the military is an empty gesture.

Yes, healthcare in Canada is better, but it still sucks, and Canada depends upon America for subsidy, because Canada, along with the rest of the Commonwealth, is playing the same stupid empire game, destroying its own abundance of resources only to send what remains to China. Real living standards have declined in BC, which is relatively better off than others, for now, because RE inflation driven by the printing press and fiscal policy has misallocated resources.

If you look, you will see that the majority of critters around you are planning extortion, in one way or another, all experts with tie wire, bubble gum and duct tape, words. The empire is only a prison if you choose to make it your focus. Like its participants, it’s passive until it’s aggressive. Hitler rolled across Europe accordingly and little has changed. Scale economies always result in tyranny because life is about diversity, which is much more about individual ideas than the color of your collective skin.

The wealth effect of inflation is hollow, but spend that money and expect a different result. The real value of that house is declining with RE inflation because it is encumbered by the empire tax on production, increasing extortion. Keep printing, running faster and faster to get further behind, or invest in a home for your children. Decisions are only complex id you make them so, for lack of effective priorities.

Obviously, children are not the priority in America, which all the data amply demonstrates, and government consumption is the overwhelming bulk of its economy. The empire is just misdirection. The magician requires a crowd that wants to be misdirected. Anticipating the magician is child’s play. The oligarch is a derivative of the majority, which wants to live in the false security of the past.

The corporations – public, private, and nonprofit, produce exactly nothing without individual initiative, but self-serving definitions of production. A piece of paper does not confer personhood, no matter how much the empire prints and spends to convince you so. Real confidence comes from experience, not a survey.

The Bank prints until it can’t; the empire weeds out the majority for you. The trick to competing with a mob in possession of a printing press is not to compete with it. This country has precious few capable of rebooting an economy, all locked out for lack of interest in a piece of paper signaling empire compliance, and a majority capable of passing a test to be their supervisor. Good luck with that.

Equilibrium is a function of adaptation, not planning extortion. Opportunity or threat depends upon perspective. Central control doesn’t work because it collects on fear. Hitler was the result of collective stupidity, peer pressure, not the cause.

Replace time in empire time, over time. The empire spends all its time fighting its own fires. The difference between the majority and labor is that the military poses no threat to labor. Shock and awe, blitzkrieg, preemptive strike, and all the others are just words, meant to frighten the already frightened. Without labor, that paper is worthless.

Print $50T to subsidize dead real estate and grant the slaves $10 – let them all eat misallocated cake. The military doesn’t call the President when the President creates a problem it can’t solve. The only difference between order and chaos is a switch.

Empires are built to be destroyed because it’s a whole lot easier than fighting willful ignorance minute by minute. The empire is designed to short itself into implosion. Move forward and adjust the gap for transmission.

Space travel is space travel no mater where you go in the universe. There are more ways to get a good approximation of corruption than there are people, but one is to count the number of tow trucks. The driver you want is the one the empire doesn’t.

Ping the empire’s clock, but don’t set your time by it. Bypass the herd and the predators it attracts. Place your children TDC on the fulcrum when you want to grow the economy. Funny, if you are an ‘illegal’ immigrant, you get a piece of paper, to enter the ponzi at the bottom, and welfare to support your family growth.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:48 | 4424503 i_call_you_my_base
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The debt ceiling debate is pointless.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:49 | 4424507 I Write Code
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I agree with the RINO leadership this far - it is hard to imagine any conservative speaker who can get anything done as long as the Senate is held by the insane clown posse democrats and will not impeach under any circumstances.  But maybe it's better to have a speaker who will happily batter his head against the wall, maybe that is the best form of valor under the circumstances and not this watery "pragmatism" that is little more than Vichy collaboration.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:34 | 4424974 MonsterBox
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Tell your friends, family & store clerks:  Re-Elect No One!  If we change them out for 2-3 cycles, they'll start listening.  But re-elect any, it's the same music, same drum beat.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:56 | 4425045 MisterMousePotato
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@I write: Kipling wrote lines about how sometimes in life, the best a man could hope for is to die on the barricades in the company of other good men.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:34 | 4424979 Clark Bent
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The average idiot does not know whe have a Senate and a House, or that both are required to advance legislation. What the Progressive media tells them is Congress is John Boehner and he is thwarting our super cool president who hangs around with Beyonce. Boehner seems depressed that he is not invited and he is a square. 

I say act more aggressively. First, becuase it's right, and sometimes right wins when it does the right thing. And second, becuase maybe it finally brings that fucking lizard Reid out into the sunlight where he can be subjected to the hatred he so richly deserves. After all this is the game being played by the Enemy and seems to have some success. 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 16:48 | 4425017 Flakmeister
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Reid may be a lizard, but McConnell is clearly a turtle...

http://www.buzzfeed.com/turtlefeed/turtles-that-look-like-mitch-mcconnel...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:47 | 4424508 nickels
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Yeah. How can you represent the American People without fear and leverage?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:51 | 4424513 RaceToTheBottom
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Boehner's Priapism moment in the sun

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:54 | 4424518 Meat Hammer
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I like to picture in my mind the new Tea Party freshman as he arrives in DC on the first day of his term to take on the establishment.  Then I like to picture him on the second day after he's been shown pictures of his kids playing at school and his wife clipping roses in the back yard, after he's had his cock sucked dry by a few DC staffers, and after he's been given his offshore account number.

Tea Party.  Cute.

As LOP says, nothing changes until you roll the motherfuckin guillotines.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:57 | 4424528 denverdolomte
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Yup!

 

I bet the T.axed E.nough A.lready sect has never once spoken to a lobbyist like a true Rep or Dem /sarc. Hahah I don't believe anything that sect of Reps says. Just republicans talking out of both sides of their mouths. 

Again YUP! :: "As LOP says, nothing changes until you roll the motherfuckin guillotines."

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:51 | 4424519 Skin666
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If you're stupid enough to vote for these cuntsacks, then you deserve what's coming...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:51 | 4424521 notadouche
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Big problem with this group's statement just on a quick glance:  "democrats will never fear us and we will never have any leverage". 

A real politcal faction looking to lead would be more concerned about gaining respect instead of "fear".  Leadership through leverage is also fleeting.  The goals stated here are a pathetic look into Washington politics in which the little factions are more concerned with getting over on one another as opposed to actually representing the american people which is what their only reason for existence.   I know this isn't unique to this group, which is exactly the problem with Washington.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:54 | 4424527 wmbz
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Really! Just now launching on Bonner? That orange POS folds up faster than a cheap chinese lawn chair. Bonner and the rest of his punk-ass crowd should have been shit canned a long,long time ago.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:56 | 4424531 Flakmeister
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The self destruction of the Republican Party continues apace....

When they lose their ability to gerrymander the House, they will become as relevant as the Whigs...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:01 | 4424545 CrashisOptimistic
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If they take the Senate this year, will the gerrymander theory go away?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:14 | 4424626 Flakmeister
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The House takes care of apportioning Congressional districts, not the Senate...

BTW, what theory? Any even handed statistical analysis of the break down of seats vs. popular vote shows clear skewing.. Hell, tabulating the vote split in congressional races shows that the Dems have a minority of seats despite a solid plurality of votes... 

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:15 | 4424637 Overfed
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Repeal the 17th amendment.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:19 | 4424663 Unstable Condition
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+ 1,000!!!

The 16th needs to go as well.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:31 | 4424696 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  The 16th needs to go as well.

How would Big-MIC fight the evil-doers?   How would we spread freedom throughout the world?   How would we defeat the Chinese Commy Capitalists?    How would we have so many cool war toys?   

How would the poor farmers and ranchers get money so survive the winter?

Who would spy on Americans to ensure our freedum?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:34 | 4424718 BigRedRider
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Shitcan the Constitution too...too many Obama shit stains on it.  Oh, and shitcan Roberts too while we're at it.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:15 | 4424620 Lost Word
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No, the Republicans in the State Governments decide the district boundaries,

and the State Republicans are stronger and more conservative  than the national Republicans.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:17 | 4424633 Flakmeister
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That is part of but by no means the entire story...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:22 | 4424653 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  more conservative 

You mean "conservative" or conservative?

I don't know any people who actually want a small non-intrusive government,  especially if they vote for the Red Team.  

Who would make the rules about the genitals?   Who would make all our cool war toys?    Who would fund the empire?

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:59 | 4424535 SilverFish
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Never ceases to amaze me that people still think "Well, if we just get the right guys in there, we can fix this thing!"

 

"Boner" is not the problem. He's just a symptom.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 21:08 | 4426135 are we there yet
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All politicians should be polygraphed each year on the question ' Have you received favors or money that you have not reported because of your political position?'...... A side benifit would be that congress would be empty.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 14:59 | 4424539 Sudden Debt
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nothing that says I LOVE YOU like a petition with 20k signatures to kick you out...

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:04 | 4424560 denverdolomte
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Thanks now you done made me spit coffee on my table and floor. Hahah.

Tue, 02/11/2014 - 15:04 | 4424573 denverdolomte
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I'm confused is Boner a fallacy or phallic or a combo. 

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