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"Historic", "Catastrophic" Winter Storm Paralyzes Atlanta As Pax Creeps Up East Coast

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Not a week seems to pass without yet another "historic" winter storm assuring that virtually all winter economic data so far in 2014 can be ignored... if it is bad that is - if the data is good, it's thanks to the "recovery" which however is not strong enough for the Fed to end its "unconventional" policy. The latest one - Pax. Weather.com's description of what is about to be unleashed on Atlanta and the entire Eastern Seaboard is nothing short of a review of the movie The Day After Tomorrow: "Potentially "catastrophic" Winter Storm Pax began unfolding before dawn Wednesday in the Atlanta area as temperatures dropped below freezing and sleet and freezing rain began to fall."

The National Weather Service's warning was not exactly cheery: "Let’s just start by saying this winter storm may be of historic proportions for the area,” the agency said in a forecast analysis. “We’re looking at significant snowfall totals north and significant, crippling ice totals, especially along the Interstate 20 corridor.” Eli Jacks, a meteorologist with National Weather Service, said forecasters use words such as "catastrophic" sparingly. Not in this case.

"Sometimes we want to tell them, 'Hey, listen, this warning is different. This is really extremely dangerous, and it doesn't happen very often,'" Jacks said.

 

The service's memo early Wednesday called the storm "an event of historical proportions."

 

It continues: "Catastrophic ... crippling ... paralyzing ... choose your adjective."

So... not good?

The forecast drew comparisons to an ice storm in the Atlanta area in 2000 that left more than 500,000 homes and businesses without power and an epic storm in 1973 that caused an estimated 200,000 outages for several days. In 2000, damage estimates topped $35 million.

Ice will make travel in central Georgia impossible, and downed tree limbs might cut power for days, the agency said. As many as 300,000 homes and businesses in the state will probably lose power, according to Tim Oram, the Meteorological Services Branch chief for the weather service’s southern region in Fort Worth, Texas.

 

“At this point, everything is lining up,” Oram said. “It’s from a once-in-every-10- to a once-in-every-20-years type of event. There’s pretty high confidence we’re going to see some pretty high accumulations of ice in the Georgia area.”

 

The worst of the ice will probably stretch from Atlanta to Columbia, South Carolina, and Fayetteville to Raleigh in North Carolina, according to Anderson. “It is going to be a bad situation down there,” he said.

Ok, maybe they are not exaggerating. Already, Georgia Power was reporting thousands of power outages around the state. And forecasters and officials said the number of outages would probably grow throughout the day.  Just before 5 a.m., the number of customers in the dark was 2,000. That number climbed to more than 10,000 by 7 a.m. Ice was already accumulating on roads and bridges. National Weather Service forecasters used unusual dire language in warnings and memos early Wednesday, and they said that while a foot of snow could fall in some parts of Georgia, "it is the ice that will have the catastrophic impacts."

As a reminder, ice on the road in the South means instant paralysis:

Elected leaders and emergency management officials began warning people to stay off the roads, especially after 2 inches of snowfall caused an icy gridlock two weeks ago and left thousands stranded in vehicles overnight. It seemed many in the region around the state's capital obliged as streets and highways were uncharacteristically unclogged Tuesday.

 

Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal and Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed in a news conference at the Georgia Emergency Management Agency's special operations center Tuesday evening implored people to get somewhere safe and stay there.

 

"The message I really want to share is, as of midnight tonight, wherever you are, you need to plan on staying there for a while," Reed said. "The bottom line is that all of the information that we have right now suggests that we are facing an icing event that is very unusual for the metropolitan region and the state of Georgia."

This also means the local aren't taking any chances, and have already raided the local grocery stores. From (the ironically named) KPAX:

If you're an Atlantan making a last-minute grocery run, here's hoping you love corn and asparagus. Because that's all that may be left on most shelves as residents stock up and hunker down for the ice storm.

 

Gone are the loaves of bread. The gallons of milk. The cans of beans and beer.

It won't be just Atlanta though:

A potentially historic winter storm threatens to coat Georgia with ice, knocking out power and grounding thousands of planes, before bringing snow to Northeastern cities including Washington and New York.

 

New York may get 2-4 inches (5-10 centimeters) of snow tonight, and Washington as much as 4 inches, according to the National Weather Service at 3:51 a.m. New York time. Atlanta is forecast to receive half an inch of ice today.

 

“When the snow comes, it is going to come in fast and furious,” said Brett Anderson, a senior meteorologist at AccuWeather Inc. in State College, Pennsylvania. “The initial batch of snow that comes in before any changeover is going to be quite heavy.”

 

Closer to the coast, the storm will start as snow before changing to rain, Anderson said. While the rain may hold down snow accumulation, the rapid onset will still mean heavy snowfall for the cities along the Interstate 95 corridor from Washington to Boston.

 

The snow moving to the Northeast is expected to leave a “catastrophic” blanket of ice across the South, especially Georgia, the weather service said.

If readers are traveling by plane over the next 24 hours, our advice is: don't.

Across the U.S., 1,576 flights were canceled yesterday, and 2,697 were scrubbed for today, said FlightAware, a Houston-based tracking service. About 5,500 homes and businesses from Arkansas to North Carolina were without power, utility websites show.

 

Governors in seven Southern states declared emergencies as the ice and snow moved eastward from Texas. The storm is expected to strengthen off the coast of North Carolina and drop heavy snow from Virginia to Maine.

 

The worst-hit areas may be the Interstate 81 corridor from western Virginia into central New York, as well as northern and western New England. Anderson said those areas may receive as much as 12 inches of snow, with some places getting 18 inches.

As a reminder, Atlanta was already hit late last month, when 2.5 inches of snow in Atlanta stranded almost 25,000 students at their schools or in buses and shut down the region’s highways, trapping thousands of motorists. "There were 1,254 accidents, 134 people injured and at least one death caused by the storm. Georgia Governor Nathan Deal issued a state of emergency for 45 counties on Feb. 10 and 43 more yesterday, urging residents to stay off the roads. Schools in the Atlanta area have been closed through today. President Barack Obama declared an emergency in northern Georgia, freeing up federal funds to deal with the aftermath of the storm. Governors in Louisiana, North Carolina, South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi and Virginia also issued emergency declarations."

Finally, we have all seen traders with hands on their faces. Here are...  weathermen with hands on their faces.

 

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Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:22 | 4427503 youngman
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It gets the weatherman STAR status if they call the Catastropic storm.....danger..danger..danger..

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:25 | 4427505 Dagny Taggart
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Cue the french toast panic (bread/milk/eggs)

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:50 | 4427589 DOT
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Er, you mean "Freedom Toast" I think.

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:06 | 4427645 Dagny Taggart
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It just never ceases to amaze me that most people refuse to look to themselves for answers whether the crisis is political/economic or weather related. Of course that would involve some degree of withdrawing one's consent of depending upon and looking to the system for every remedy outside of the daily cattle shoot they know. Maybe a tad of accountibility?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:38 | 4427746 Creeps
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But if you go over a couple of isles the baking isle is full of flour, and anything you may need to make bread.  I picked up another 5lbs of King Aurther flour just because, might as well make something while it rains ice.  Skills are important.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:54 | 4427994 TheMeatTrapper
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Bingo! Food everywhere and none of the bitches these days knows how to cook. 

 

Every time they have a 'canned food drive' here at work to help the 'less privileged' I always suggest that we have a 'staple foods' drive and point out that we can feed a shit load more people for a lot longer with flour, oil, sugar, beans and rice than with cans of Beanie Weenies. 

It goes over like a turd in a swimming pool. Everybody wants it easy. All the time. 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:25 | 4427506 Infinite QE
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Will it be blamed for the next Bitcoin crash?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:26 | 4427510 shovelhead
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It's a sweetheart deal between the Nat. Weather Bureau and the TV networks.

The Networks need to scare people to watch their shitty news.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:53 | 4427595 semperfi
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I gave up "TV" a while back - it feels good - try it

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:36 | 4427742 superflex
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Kroger has it's own HAARP it uses when bread and milk are nearing their expiration date.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 13:07 | 4428342 HelluvaEngineer
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At Kroger it's always near the expiration date.

Got reports via wife that in the ATL stores some of her friends saw them putting out molded bread.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:26 | 4427513 the not so migh...
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::grabs banjo:::

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:46 | 4427567 Mi Naem
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:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzae_SqbmDE

It's only the biggest f'in storm in the state. 

Squeal like a pig, boy! 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:25 | 4427514 B2u
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Yawn....

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:30 | 4427521 The Devil
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It'll be a cold day in hell when...well it's actually going to be a cold day in hell.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:27 | 4427523 GrinandBearit
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Outrageous MSM hype, drama and sensationalism.

It snows in the winter time... imagine that!

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:30 | 4427524 thorgodofthunder
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When did zerohedge become Al Roker?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:30 | 4427723 Mi Naem
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When breakroom donuts became a daily ritual. 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:31 | 4427527 Roger Knights
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The caption under the second image (part of the image) begins, "Traffic is light during the afternoon commute Feb. 12, 2014 in Atlanta."

Feb. 12 is today. It's 8:30 AM in Atlanta now. Afternoon hasn't happened. Something's off. 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:40 | 4427555 Disenchanted
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So it wasn't just me...see above. I think maybe it was edited and did originally say 2014. It has 2013 now.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:50 | 4427557 Mi Naem
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A Minority Report of pre-traffic? 

OR

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-12/historic-catastrophic-winter-st...

Oops, got me, too!  I guess I read what I expected to see. 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:33 | 4427529 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Is it me or is there a persistant use of language and ideas to dog train people to accept the inverse of what they mean.

We kill rhinos to pay for rhino conservation.

We drone US citizens to keep them safe from terrorism. Think Pakistan....

We name epic zcatastrophic historic super destructive storms after a carved tablet with a representation of Christ or the Virgin Mary, which was kissed by the priest during the Mass ("kiss of peace").

Anyone picking up on some common human dog training themes here....................

 

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:42 | 4427551 Mi Naem
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Yes, absolutely! 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:47 | 4427573 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Since some one responded and I can't edit I meant to say

We name epic catastrophic historic super destructive storms after a carved tablet with a representation of Christ or the Virgin Mary, which was kissed by the priest during the Mass ("kiss of peace") destroying regions have large populations of devout church going Christians.

You would almost think the weather service is now a part of the propaganda machine....

Sounds like classic inverted Marxist Bill Ayers style Praire Fire human dog training being subtly done on the masses to create helplessness and retrain them to accept being human bow wows.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:11 | 4427660 MeMongo
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That's why you wont see superstorm shawntell or superstorm bloomburgh. We certainly can't be "hatin"!

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:01 | 4427840 lakecity55
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Fuck that commie Ayers. I can produce my own electricity and heat.

Fuck off, Nazobamunists!

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:19 | 4427884 tip e. canoe
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+1 metamessage

It takes a village...to destroy the village in order to save it.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:36 | 4428184 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Absolutely and to expand on that. To quote you directly from an earlier response in this thread to tie into that metamessage.

"and just as a friendly reminder as to who owns TWC (who owns Weather Underground)

The Weather Channel is an American basic cable and satellite television channel that is owned as a joint venture between NBCUniversal, and investment firms The Blackstone Group and Bain Capital."

 

Why would Bain Capital aka O'Romney be in bed with MSNBC and Blackstone. It is Morons err Mormons/Marixsts/Wall Street vs Southern Conservatives.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/in-new-interview-mitt-romney-admit...

...

when Romney addressed staff at his Boston campaign headquarters. The
old lack of confidence came out again as Romney suggested he never felt
comfortable in the race. He passed on something someone at headquarters
had told him: "In some ways, we kind of had to steal the Republican
nomination.
Our party is Southern, evangelical and populist. And you're
Northern, and you're Mormon, and you're rich. And these do not match
well with our party."

...

Makes sense why the Morons would be in line with the Marxists on this one naming the storm Pax because they believe their version of Christianity is better than the Southern Evangicals where the storm is hitting. God has to destroy the Southern Evangicals to save Christianity at the same time.

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 13:38 | 4428251 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Now how do we tie Bain and O'Romney to Wall Street and Blackstone aka the corporate front that deals with property rentals toxic MBS' for the FED and in turn the TBTF banks whose books they took those toxic turds off of in the first place.

https://aattp.org/breaking-mitt-romney-is-being-sued-in-federal-court-fo...

BREAKING: Mitt Romney is Being Sued in Federal Court for Criminal Racketeering

Steven “Laser” Haas is the owner and sole shareholder of Collateral Logistics Inc. (CLI) the firm which was retained to oversee the liquidation of assets in the bankruptcy of eToys in 2001.

During the process of liquidating the company Haas came across irregularities, unethical practices and outright criminal acts originating from the top at Bain Capital (Mitt Romney’s asset management firm), Goldman Sachs, Kay Bee Toys and Stage Stores, all of which were involved in the machinations to sell eToys for mere pennies to Bain through its interest in Kay Bee.

Haas filed his suit under a provision of the RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) statute which allows a plaintiff to become a “Private Attorney General” when it is necessary in order to address “Prosecutorial Gaps.”  According to Haas, that gap was created by Colm F. Connolly, former United States Attorney in Delaware who had been a partner in the law firm of  Morris, Nichols, Arsht & Tunnell (MNAT) in 2001, alleging he had failed to disclose that fact while also neglecting to investigate the complaints which Haas had lodged.

Along with Romney, Haas has named Goldman Sachs, Bain Capital, Michael Glazer Barry Gold and Paul Traub in the suit. Haas has claimed that he has evidence that the parties involved have committed perjury on 35 separate occasions — even alleging that there have been murders carried out in attempts to cover up their wrong doing.

...

Now let's connect the dots

Romney - Bain

Goldman Sachs - The FED via QE and removal of MBS

...

This article has an even better breakdown and shows all 3 entities here are in bed together and work with each other it all has to do with that lawsuit and the fact Romney lied about leaving Bain Capital in 1999 and not really leaving until 2001 after the E-toys thing happened. They have a nice flowchart to show where it all intersects.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/10/1237900/-LBN-Judge-Cancels-eToy...

They all have a vested interest in covering each other asses over this. That is the glue that binds all 3 entities together over this. Put it in context with the bigger picture now...

And for anyone who has followed this chain of thought this far. Critical thinking questions. If the Obama campaign knew ORomney was still at Bain Capital when this E-toys thing went down and the media is obviously in the tank for Obama why didn't a peep of this get reported during the 2012 elections to cut out ORomney's legs meanwhile the same media will report 24/7 on Governor Doughnut closing lanes to undercut a potential Presidental bid 2 years away? Unless they had ORomney and in turn Bain Capital in the back pocket from the get go and still do....

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 17:12 | 4429616 tip e. canoe
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toys waz in da bag since Iowa primaries fo sho.

p.s. that “Private Attorney General” thing is really cool.   someone could have a lotta fun with that.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 15:22 | 4428770 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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BTW in the game of disinformation they gave themselves cover on the naming of this storm also as the Tyler(s) pointed out.

This also means the local aren't taking any chances, and have already raided the local grocery stores. From (the ironically named) KPAX:

It is not ironic.

http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html

Rule 15 in effect used in inverted manner.

...

15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions.  This requires creative thinking unless the crime  was planned with contingency conclusions in place.

...

Then use that in concert with trait 5

http://www.whale.to/b/sweeney.html

...

5) Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain.Or, one might more rightly conclude they have  an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do.

...

All while claiming Ocam's Razor but as we can see the theme ties well beyond the name.

These people love to use inversion to mind fuck with people and cover their true intentions.

The perfect example of this abortion and guns. They got both sides so thoroughly minded fucked that both don't realize.

Let's start with the right

Pro-gun and Pro-life.

They make the inverted association that guns = choice and abortion = murder and push that meme for the 'right'

While

Anti-gun and Anti-life guns = murder while abortion  = choice and push that meme for the 'left'

You see the dog training and polarization that is pushed to keep both sides at each other's throats and distracted from the real hand(s) steering things.

Now let us untangle that and show the real undercurrent behind each.

If you consider a fetus a human the message changes considerabily

Pro - gun / Pro - life becomes the following

Murder is committied by imdividuals not objects.

Individuals pull the trigger of the gun, Individuals use the tools to perform abortion.

It is consistent logically, people kill people with objects, the objects themselves are neutral until put into an individual's hand. It is how the indvidual uses them.

The 'right' does consider a fetus a human and such all humans have universal right to life and murder is murder but you see how they are mind fucked and the idea is inverted to draw a different conclusion.

Now let's take the flip side.

Anti - gun / Anti - life

The gun kills causing the action not the individual but when it comes to abortion the individual kills causing the action not the doctor's tools.

It is inconsistent.

So let us follow the logic for the 'left' here defining a fetus as not human.

Anti - gun / Anti - life

The gun kills causing the action not the individual but when it comes to abortion the individual kills a non human using a tool (like hunting human fidos).

You see the holes all over the place in the logic. A human fetus is still a human, not a dog or a cat or giraffe fetus.

So how do they defend it by old fashioned irrational emotionally charged means.

So twist that logic back around

Anti-gun and Anti-life guns = murder while abortion  = choice and push that meme for the 'left'

They want individuals unarmed because they might murder those (aka them) that want the choice to kill humans they consider sub humans.

If you ain't in the club you are a human fido/sub human subject to post birth abortion whenever they choose....... but is for the good of the village.

It fits logically with everything you see today that revolves around this mindset aka the metamessage about saving the village by killing it.

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:35 | 4427534 wmbz
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Sleet and snow here in South Carolina today. Next week 72 degrees, I imagine we will survive somehow.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:18 | 4427880 GetZeeGold
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Good luck....we're all counting on you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHeP9Sve48

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:40 | 4427545 buzzsaw99
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spread "Uncle Sugar Sandy" on it liberally and all will be well

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:39 | 4427547 Calculus99
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Why is everything always 'history making' in the US?

PS. Everyone who today writes a post here will indeed 'make history' as that post will mean you've broken the previous highest number of posts here on ZH :)

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:40 | 4427552 ShrNfr
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Obama is fundamentally changing America. It used to be a good country.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:16 | 4427673 Savyindallas
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True  -but was Bush any better? How about McCain? If we had elected Mccain, there would be no Russian winter Olympics. They would have been nuked out of existence  -China too. Sure we would have suffered 100 million casualties or so, and much of the country would be radiated for the next 10 thousand years - but I am certain it would have been much worse for the Russians. 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:39 | 4427731 GetZeeGold
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but was Bush any better?

 

Yes.....especially in terms of debt.....and jobs. Come to think of it....just about everything really. Any chance we could get him back?

 

Notice I didn't say perfect.....just a wee tad bit better.

 

Oh geez....I almost forgot gas prices. I was paying $1.80 a gallon on his last day.

 

Now....go ahead and tell me how Obama is better again.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:03 | 4428027 Flakmeister
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Are you serious??

Gas was $1.80 becuase the world economy was in the process of collapse... Why not take the average price for 2008? Or better yet look at the monthly averages

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_n...

Psst, in case you didn't notice, all those jobs were related to the housing bubble blown by your two favorite Central Bankers, Greenspan and Bernanke and we know how that ended..

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 06:29 | 4431586 GetZeeGold
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Now....go ahead and tell me how Obama is better again.

 

Seriously......go ahead.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 09:43 | 4431823 Flakmeister
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All I am saying is that your basis of comparsion is complete horseshit....

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 16:16 | 4429265 MeelionDollerBogus
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No, it's the same curve he was just earlier on it. Had Obama come first & Bush later nothing would have changed on the time-line.
Because neither one of them actually called the shots. Future presidents won't either.
Looks like you DID get fooled twice. By a Shrub.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:40 | 4427760 SmallerGovNow2
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Way to fall into the Rebube vs. Demoncrat trap...  Priceless...

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:46 | 4427781 GetZeeGold
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That way you don't notice the luciferian party.....which contains lots of both.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:41 | 4427559 Global Hunter
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Hellz Ya!  Where's my goddam participation medal? I demand a ribbon goddammit.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:49 | 4427578 ShrNfr
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Ok, for whoever downdinged me it always was a shitty country. Leave.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 13:53 | 4428560 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Well it is like climate change. The climate is always changing. History is always being made every second after a second passes too.

Global warming is now climate change.

Every storm is now historic, epic, etc.

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 16:13 | 4429246 MeelionDollerBogus
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Global warming's stage 1 becomes climate change in stage 2. We've known that for 30 years, how did you not know this?
It sure as hell isn't global cooling.
http://theweather.news.com.au/
33 C in Perth, 91.4 F, same in Canberra. Not the hottest ever but it sure isn't cold.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:39 | 4427548 ShrNfr
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Horseshit. This is just the CAGW crowd wailing about the climate change. I am sure that the storm will be bad, especially in those areas that do not normally see snow/ice/snot/rain/sun/anything else. Historic? Not really. Just cover for the politiians when the area gets Naganized.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:39 | 4427549 Global Hunter
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Minus 30 celsius (minus 22 farenheit) this morning.  We've been snow covered since approx the 25th of November and the snow banks create a driving hazard because they're well over 6 feet high in a lot of places.  Back to the article about Hotlanta...

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:46 | 4427574 bigrooster
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I am confused.  What happened to global warming?  Al Gore told me the planet is getting hotter and it is my fault for driving a car.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:50 | 4427584 semperfi
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dude, don't you know that this was caused by global warming ?  everyone knows that

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 16:12 | 4429242 MeelionDollerBogus
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It's still getting warmer (it's not winter everywhere today) and it's still your fault (not just your car but the industrial farming that feeds you & the immense burning of coal & gas for power that you use).
Nothing's changed in the last 30 years, warming on & up.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:49 | 4427579 semperfi
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cats and dogs sleeping together !

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:47 | 4427581 thismarketisrigged
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fuck fuck fuck, why cant this fucking economy catch a fucking break?

 

if not for all these storms in the winter, something that never ever happens in this part of the world, we would be creating over 1,000,000 jobs a month and no one would be on food stamps.

 

this is not obamas fault, its all the fucking weathers fault. i hope that the weather stays out of the way in march since it clearly wont in feb and we can finally starting seeing this great obama led recovery.

 

YES WE CAN!!!!

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:20 | 4427692 Pullmyfinger
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Eat two snowballs and call me in the morning : )

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:21 | 4427697 Global Observer
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On the other hand, with all the potential repair works and the jobs they will create, the DJIA will cross 20,000!

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:52 | 4427596 balanced
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The name "Pax" is particularly unsettling for fans of the Firefly/Serenity series and movie, as Pax was the name of the chemical spread around by the government, intended to calm the population. It instead killed 99% of them by robbing them of all motivation -- they all just sat down and died. The remaining 1% became hyper aggressive animals essentially.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:39 | 4427755 DriveByLurker
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Reavers!!!!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-NVs68X_S4

 

(Of course, we are talking about Atlanta here, so the change might not be as noticeable as it would be elsewhere.)

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:54 | 4427597 DOT
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It's a twofer on ZH!!!!!

We get to bitch about the economy (can't change it)

And

We get to bitch about the weather (can't change it)

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:56 | 4427611 Chippewa Partners
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Am about 35 miles north of downtown ATL......took my 4x4 to the Waffle House this morning.   Bot a couple LEO's breakfast anonymously.  Roads were slushed up.   Might be some timber coming down on power lines if it remains below freezing.

The entitlement crowd will be late in buying/stealing their VD cards.  Learned last night that EBT cards are accepted at the Post Office.   Firewood stacked and ready for a power outage.  Weatherby tactical .12 ga. too.   Ice on!!!!

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:02 | 4427613 r101958
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Hey, for the PTB these storms are a wet dream (pun intended). You take an economy that is tanking, throw in a storm or two, watch as the sheeple run out and buy all sorts of stuff on credit (which actually helps the tanking economy) and then you can turn around and blame the storms for the tanking economy.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 09:58 | 4427615 DavrosoftheDaleks
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You will be Exterminated, Exterminated!

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:00 | 4427616 monopoly
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This is ridiculous. It is winter. This is what happens in winter. Deal with it!  Although here in the West, after two days of rain and some snow in Tahoe, we are back to spring and 65 degrees in Reno today. Our drought is as bad as ever and the 10 day forcast is not very encouraging. Imagine running low on water when you have 38 million CA. people thirsty. Oh my.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:12 | 4427664 waterwitch
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Severe is the new normal. Deal with it.  Moore, OK; Joplin, MO; Hurricanes Sandy, Katrina;

 

[Weather swings kinda remind me of Bitcoin. Maybe there's a correlation?]

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:29 | 4427712 Dr. Engali
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Severe weather has always been normal. You may want to read about some of the cycles in the past.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:47 | 4427779 superflex
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But they were'nt pumped down your throat on a 24/7 cycle from your cell phone, twitter, farcebook, cable TV and the interwebz.

Therefore, today's weather is much worse that historical weather.

Mmmmmkay?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:50 | 4427792 waterwitch
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Sure explains why 2012 was the hottest year ever recorded.

Turns out, I do study weather extremes as part of my job. 2009 turned out to be the wettest year recorded (where I am)--almost twice the average amount of precip.That year was sandwiched between  extreme  drought years.

Kindly explain to the folks in the Philipines who experienced  super typhoon Haiyan  that that was 'normal'. 

The steroid era in baseball is a good analogy to increases in the extremes in weather. No single at bat is guaranteed  a home run, but the number of home runs during that period is staggering. 

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:03 | 4427841 Blano
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The number of recorded years is a pittance compared to total years so those numbers don't mean squat.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:39 | 4427956 Flakmeister
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How about 800,000 years of C02 and temperature records?

Given that H. Sapiens has been around for about 200,000 years, it should be more than adequte to give us an idea of what is ammenable for our existence...

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 15:27 | 4429005 FrankDrakman
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 what is ammenable for our existence

There is no English word "ammenable". One might presume flakbaby means "amenable", but things are 'amenable to', not 'amenable for'.

So either flakbaby is just making up new words, in which case no one knows what he means, or he is making spelling and grammatical errors whilst calling us fools for not swallowing the tripe peddled as 'climate change'.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 18:23 | 4429286 Flakmeister
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The spelling fascists are out today...

Mea culpa, a typo on my part...

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:02 | 4427624 Proofreder
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91 Georgia counties presently under state of emergency -

Epic storm - happens every 20 - 30 years in the Southeast.

http://www.11alive.com/news/travel/traffic/default.aspx

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:12 | 4427662 Proofreder
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60,000 Ga. Power customers now without ... this is an ice storm, not snow.  Low temps tonight will bring black ice and the clusterfux continue to build.  

Many are chilled, but few are frozen.

Got Fire ?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:30 | 4427724 Oldballplayer
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People are going to look out their windows and wish they had trimmed those tree branches.

We had a wicked October Ice storm a couple of years ago, and we lost power for days.  The power company came down the street and butchered the trees hanging over the lines.  I was talking to the workers and they were laughing, tellimg me that the power company had tried FOR YEARS to come in and trim and the town was so full of assholes who cared about how the tree-lined streets looked that they denied them access.

You'd be surprised what a "State of Emergency" allows the utility companies to do.  They had a huge cherry picker cutting the trees, and a big mulching truck right behind them, blowing shit all over our front yards.  I have never seen utility crews enjoying their work so much.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:03 | 4427626 Son of Loki
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A storm? You call this a Storm?!

When I was a child.....

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:10 | 4427655 Skin666
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You must have seen some weird shit weather in Asgard

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:38 | 4427935 LFMayor
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I've been to Jotunheim.  You can too, just head to your nearest Wal Mart.  You should see the women there! 

Stinking, loud, ugly as sin takin-a-shit and BIG.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:54 | 4428272 LFMayor
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Wow.  Some hateh has hisself a big woman, who wears her pajama pants and foam croc shoes when he peels her greasy ass off the couch and they go pick up more hungry man microwave dinners at the local Methtopolis Cultural Center (that would be Wal Mart). 

U mad, brah?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:06 | 4427638 mijev
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Just remember: if it's unseasonably warm, it's global warming. If it's unseasonably cold it's, er, unseasonably cold.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 16:13 | 4429235 MeelionDollerBogus
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And that it's summer right now - in the southern hemisphere.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:07 | 4427651 mwrobe1
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"is nothing short of a review of the movie The Day After Tomorrow"

ORLy?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:08 | 4427652 rsnoble
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It's fucking snow and ice.  Bunch of pussies.  Go stock up on the #1 priority: Beer, then get bags of bread, mustard and something that will last forever like bologna, chips etc, wait for the storm and if it hits tell your boss to fuck off.

Yep......no disaster in my household that's for damn sure lol.  If you want to get out in it to prove your cock sucking and ass kissing abilities that's your problem not mine.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:13 | 4427665 Flakmeister
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I can see the idiots are out in full force today...

Hey, if Atlanta was brought to it's knees with some light flurries, what is something resembling a real storm going to do?

The system looks like it will morph into a powerful Nor'easter and smack the NE hard....

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 14:59 | 4428871 FrankDrakman
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Hey, if Atlanta was brought to it's knees with

This from a guy who excoriates someone for the typo "magentic" instead of "magnetic". What a fool.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 16:20 | 4429292 Flakmeister
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You are on a roll...

Anything of substance to add?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:16 | 4427679 viator
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Weather porn.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:18 | 4427687 Flakmeister
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A chapter out of the Doomer Porn Chronicles....

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:17 | 4427682 swmnguy
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I grew up in rural Minnesota in the '70s, when we had some really dangerous winter storms.  Snow measured in feet, but it was the cold and mostly the wind that created deadly conditions.  Most people who haven't experienced it don't understand how on a clear blue day, the wind can blow snow so thick you can get lost and freeze to death within yards of your back door.

So when I spent some time in southern Ohio as a teenager, I laughed my head off at how the Southerners dealt with temperatures just below 32 F, and an inch of snow.  What I didn't understand was the ice storms. We really don't get ice stoms in Minnesota, the way they do 500 or more miles south of here.  I'll take a foot of snow over a quarter inch of ice every time.  I'll take 2 feet of snow and a week of 40 mph wind over an inch of ice.

If this storm turns out as predicted, Atlanta and the Deep South are legitimately screwed.  And I say that as a cocky Northerner who loves to laugh at the weather incompetence and helplessness of those who live in more temperate climes.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:23 | 4427695 Flakmeister
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Well said...

Ice is the killer...

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:25 | 4427699 swmnguy
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That said, even here in Minneapolis the weather media has become sensationalistic to the nausea point. If we're going to get 8", it's a "Snowpocalypse."  If it's over a foot, I'm waiting to hear we're getting hit by "Snow-Quaeda."  It's ridiculous.  And then in the morning when the air was a little warmer than expected 5000 feet up, we scrape the 2" off our sidewalks and driveways and get back inside for breakfast.  Stiill, it would have to be more exciting to be a weatherman here than in San Diego, where they probably come in for 4 hours a month to tape a month's worth of "72 for the high, 59 for the low, no rain expected."

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:49 | 4427791 superflex
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But it will thaw in a few days.

Up north, the ice lasts for months.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:02 | 4427836 swmnguy
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Very true.  When we do get an ice storm up here in Minneapolis, the roads are washboards until it's above freezing for a couple of days and the mountains of salt do their work.  But fortunately, that's rare.  And the worst part of an ice storm is all the trees and powerlines that come down in the first day or two.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:26 | 4427700 Hulk
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First Sherman and now this !!! Fire and ice  !!!

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:24 | 4427702 stateside
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Here's a novel idea.  Buy a few salt trucks and keep them on the ready for an ice storm. 

 

stateside

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:27 | 4427706 Oldballplayer
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You want to make a good profit, find Ice Melt in 50 pound bags.  I spent two hours yesterday morning driving from one to store to another.  All I could find was rock salt.  And very little of that.

Ice Melt is your future.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:37 | 4427748 swass
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I love how "climate change" is always brought up as the reason for any weather condition that doesn't fit with what people perceive as ideal.  The climate ALWAYS CHANGES. 

Now, if they say "man-made climate change," that is a different thing.  First they called it global warming, then when faced with the climate cooling, such as we have seen in the last couple years in the US mid-west (where we practically had no spring and went straight from summer to winter), they decided to call it climate change.  Then they try to come up with climate models that fit their outcome.

Whether we're talking about man-made vs natural effects on climate, evolution vs creation, the origins of life and the universe, science's explanations and perspective changes every few decades, and yet people are told that the science's popular explanation of the time is absolute and that no other options can exist.

The one I love right now is how global warming is supposed to cause cold weather, when we were previously told that winters would continue to get more mild and our children would not know snow in northern climates.  So I guess we need a mini ice age in order to NOT have an average of sub-zero (F) temperatures in the US mid-west with nights getting down to -35 and winters lasting until June?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:53 | 4427805 TheMerryPrankster
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Best explanation I saw was Japanese scientist named Maruyama - shigenori maruyama

he said sunspots are upwelling from within the sun and punch holes into the suns atmosphere and allow more heat to radiate outward, warming the solar system more. When sunspots decline for long periods, we get global cooling, as happened in the mini-ice age of 1600s-1800s

it will be an accelerator to the effects of the limits to growth. Causing more of and extending the current economic malaise and decline of standards of living in the 1st and 2nd worlds.

More disposable income spent on heating, means less spent on everything else.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:00 | 4427831 swass
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I agree on the sunspots.  But the current climate scientists don't get paid unless their models prove man-made CO2 emissions are what is causing global warming, and government and Al "succubus" Gore can't enrich themselves with carbon credits and taxes is we are having global cooling due to decreased sunspot activity from the Sun.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:41 | 4427955 Woodhippie
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Exactly.

 

The only outcome of heavier CO2 amounts in the atmosphere would be bigger trees.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 16:11 | 4429225 MeelionDollerBogus
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Deader trees: they are failing to grow because of the excess heat so tree-lines are moving North, leaving emptiness behind where they no longer grow.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:43 | 4427973 Flakmeister
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Psst...

You don't need fancy models to prove that C02 plays a major role in the temperature of the planet...

We have 800,000 years of data that demonstrate that...

As for describing the past 100 years, you can do it with a very simple model, see here for instance

http://tamino.wordpress.com/2013/02/23/once-is-not-enough/

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:49 | 4427980 swass
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Oh wait, here is something that seems to indicate the opposite.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/last_400k_yrs.html

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:09 | 4428048 Flakmeister
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By the way, what date is defined as "The Present" in those graphs?

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/icecore/antarctica/vostok/vostok_co2.html

ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/icecore/antarctica/vostok/co2nat.txt

Since you wont look it up, it corresponds to about 2000 years ago...

 Are you really fooled that easily or are you merely stupid, or are you an mendacious shill who think that everyone is ignorant?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:10 | 4427866 Flakmeister
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Oh goodie, could you point to anything resembling a scientific document that has not been utterly debunked to back up this fanciful nonsense...

But seriously, we all know that the Sun is a major player in the climate, problem is that for 40+ years it is playing second fiddle to other forcings...

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:28 | 4427914 swass
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You know it is playing second fiddle, how?  CO2 is one of the weakest of all greenhouse gasses.  Besides that, since you're probably a greenie metro-sexual that lives in the city, drinks espresso at starbucks every day, and drives a hybrid thinking that having several hundred pounds of toxic batteries made with rare-earth metals mined in China is good for the environment, you probably didn't realize that plants thrive from that.  Are your panties bunched up now?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:37 | 4427932 Flakmeister
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Lets play a game:

What would the average global temperature of the Earth be if there was no C02?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:40 | 4427951 swass
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What temperature would the Earth be with no Sun?  What temperature would the Earth be if the atmosphere were all methane?  What does it matter? 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:47 | 4427978 Flakmeister
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You are the one that claimed C02 was the least important GHG...

Back up your claim..

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 14:19 | 4428715 FrankDrakman
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What a strawman argument, and you have the temerity to mock others, you fraudulent, idiotic swallower of other people's crap!

The answer is: the average temp would be very cold, since with 0 CO2, there would be no plant life, hence no animal life, hence earth would just be a rock covered with ice in parts. But that has everything to do with plants needing CO2 to live, and zero to do with CO2's mythic GHG status.

I still await your provision of a single instance where the climate fraudsters have issued a prediction which is correct.

<<crickets>>

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 16:04 | 4429204 MeelionDollerBogus
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ALL of the predictions have been correct to date with ONE caveat: the warming is FASTER than predicted but in the same proportion.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 16:22 | 4429304 Flakmeister
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Stupid is as stupid does...

Google Broecker 1975 and get back to us...

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 16:00 | 4429186 MeelionDollerBogus
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Hillary?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:48 | 4427966 combatsnoopy
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"you probably didn't realize that plants thrive from that"
-Homosapien gets the obvious!!!!!

There is hope.   Oh happy day- I'll send some of this "global warming" your way from the west coast, we will try not to let the Gore person hog it all.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 16:01 | 4429183 MeelionDollerBogus
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CO2 hasn't risen all by itself. Methane's gone up with it and is much more powerful.

You probably didn't realize the heat FROM the Co2 and methane is KILLING CROPS so the plants aren't thriving.
Even though farmers plowed dead,  brown corn into their fields over and over, many times.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 16:00 | 4429182 MeelionDollerBogus
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Except there's no measure whatsoever of this heat arriving on Earth, increasing irradiance on the surface of the moon & Earth, and if it was hot enough to heat the outer planets even a degree it would be hot enough to boil our oceans off since we are that much closer.
Inverse-square Law, bitchez.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:09 | 4427857 Flakmeister
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You sound like a crotchety old fart sitting around the checker board at the local General Store spending the day exchanging banalities with likeminded old codgers...

Let me guess, your arthritis is acting up? 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:24 | 4427898 Disenchanted
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STFU and eat your granola. ;p

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 15:59 | 4429181 MeelionDollerBogus
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there is no cooling - not seen or measured anywhere.
The earth is still warming and climate change IS GLOBAL WARMING. They are identical, one and  the same, in this era of history, right now, this year, this minute.
It's SUMMER in the Southern Hemisphere and it's not cooling down there now.

IT'S NOT WINTER ON THE ENTIRE PLANET AT ONCE, dumbass.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:41 | 4427758 D-liverSil-ver
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Went out around midnight and got 10 gal. of gas for the generator.

Idiots have cleaned all the bread out of the stores, screw them, I'm a prepper. I'll break out some vacuum sealed bread flour

and some yeast and fire up the bread maker and make some fresh.. it makes the house smell really good too!

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:43 | 4427771 TheMerryPrankster
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Global cooling - if these academics are right, we've got a couple of centuries of this and worse to deal with.

Approaching Crisis of Global Cooling and the Limits to Growth (Google eBook)

http://books.google.com/books/about/Approaching_Crisis_of_Global_Cooling...

basically reduced solar activities as sunspots means reduced warming from sun, means frozen winter rivers like back in the 1700s & 1800s.

A Russian Solar Physicist also predicts the same thing.

New paper by Russian solar physicist by Habibullo Abdussamatov predicts another Little Ice Age within the next 30 years.

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/12/04/new-paper-russian-solar-physicist...

he picks 2014 as the year it starts and he predicted it back in early 2000's.

Get yer mittens ready..

 

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:46 | 4427784 the not so migh...
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I agree, magentic fields from the sun and surrounding solar system effect earths weather more then cow farts

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 13:16 | 4428354 Flakmeister
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The very least you could do would be to spell magnetic correctly...

BTW, you are pretty much full of shit...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_methane

A 2006 UN FAO report reported that livestock generate more greenhouse gases as measured in CO2 equivalents than the entire transportation sector. Livestock accounts for 9 percent of anthropogenic CO2, 65 percent of anthropogenic nitrous oxide and 37 percent of anthropogenic methane. A senior UN official and co-author of the report, Henning Steinfeld, said "Livestock are one of the most significant contributors to today's most serious environmental problems."[16]

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 15:56 | 4429176 MeelionDollerBogus
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Makes no sense: photons, in particular infrared are NOT deflected by magnetic fields, and charged particles which are do not import heat to us AND are deflected AWAY from the Earth by the field.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:20 | 4427889 Flakmeister
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You do understand the difference between a peer-reviewed paper and an Op-Ed piece?

The SPPI has zero credibility and half of their staff is on the Heartland Institute payroll...

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/personnel.html

This is like the tobacco companies telling you that cigarette smoking cures cancer...

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:37 | 4427945 Disenchanted
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Climate Money by Joanne Nova must have hit a nerve.

 

 

The stealthy mass entry of bankers and traders into the background of the scientific “debate” poses grave threats to the scientific process. The promise of “trillions of dollars” on commodity markets with all of that potential money hinging on finding that human emissions of carbon dioxide have a significant role in the climate surely acts like blanket of mud over open dispassionate analysis...

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:50 | 4427984 Flakmeister
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And just what does have to do with the science?

Yes, those guys are parasites that seek to milk anything for whatever they can. Is that something new?

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:27 | 4428143 Disenchanted
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What does it have to do with the science?

Maybe 'scientific studies' are determined more by who funds them then by actual science. A couple of quotes from an unrelated(to climate change) article:

 

 

Published Research is majorly false. That is the upshot of a recent Greek study which examined the outcomes of scientific studies against subsequent research which proved them unreliable. It seems that most studies "find" whatever outcome the funders desire.

 

First, the Rothschild revolution under Thatcher made the funding of science much more subservient to business interests. Over the past two decades, getting finance for scientific inquiry inimical to the commercial and political establishments has become increasingly difficult. The science is owned by a tiny number of very large companies and they only commission research which they believe will further their own commercial interests. And when that turns out not to be the case, as when research turns up results which may be embarrassing to the company, they are most often dubbed “commercially confidential” and never published.

 

 

Now I'm sure bankers and the like would never fund 'scientific studies' that might enhance their possibilities of profiteering from carbon trading schemes, right?

 

Another quote from a completely different source:

 

A recent report by the Union of Concerned Scientists says what Gaia Health has been saying: Science has been corrupted. All too often, its master is not the search for truth, but is the industries that use a wide range of subtle and not-so-subtle techniques to get the results they want. Science has become Pseudo Science.

 

Note: A video based on this article can be seen here.


The truth is damned if it runs counter to the industry of profits. The title of the Union of Concerned Scientists’ (UCS) report echoes the severity of the situation in its title, “Heads They Win, Tails We Lose”. The report describes the problem like this:

 

Unfortunately, censorship of scientists
and the manipulation, distortion, and suppression of
scientific information has threatened the federal scientific enterprise in recent years.

 

They don’t detail the incredible harm it’s doing to the people, the true victims of pseudo science.

 

How Corporations Corrupt Science at the Public's Expense

 

But they're all probably just crotchety old farts with arthiritic problems as well...

 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:46 | 4428207 Flakmeister
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Where did you find this "cut and paste" of cherry picked out of context material?

Still waiting for you to explain the real role of C02 as a non-condensable green house gas, or did you just give up on that? 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:41 | 4427953 combatsnoopy
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And niacin is supposed to cure tobacco addiction.  That's okay, just as government has something other than oil to impose a price inelastic tax on when we start driving cars that don't  run on gas and oil.

It never had anything to do with your health and welfare.

Oh btw, what are carbon credits collateralized with?  Sorry, gnrh infested cow farts don't count as collateral.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:59 | 4428007 LFMayor
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Peer review?  OH!  You mean where the same group of straw haired sandy vagina harpies and Woody Allen look-alike Femen all "review" each others works and cite from them to lend credibility in their Annoited Circle?

Like the Mann guy, and his "data".

Do me a huge favor.  Start up a movement amongst your kind that mirrors the Flagellants of the middle ages.  Then you can strap each other and yourselves bloody worshipping at your ivory towers while chanting Algores secret names.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:13 | 4428084 Flakmeister
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The original Mann paper has been verified by so many studies that the Hockey Stick is now a Hockey team...

Any other bullshit you care to spread for us?

Ironically, the only acadmemc fraud related to the Hockey stick that was uncovered was in the Wegman Report and the McKitrick and McIntyre attempt to rebut it...

Talk about projection:

http://deepclimate.org/2010/11/16/replication-and-due-diligence-wegman-s...

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:27 | 4428136 LFMayor
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Hockey Team!  Not exactly the metaphor I would have selected.  As if they during the depths of a heated peer review they all throw off their Lattes and start peening teeth with the granite-esque knuckles of their moisturized, powerful hands.

Why don't you wear a placard down some streets of Hoth's new capitol city, Altanta?  Bring your elightened vision to the masses? 

Be sure to take your Hockey Team, just in case there's trouble.  Like a cold snub, or some Harsh Words! 

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:54 | 4428224 Flakmeister
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I see that "lame rebuttal" has reached a new level of irrelevance here at ZH....

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:57 | 4428285 LFMayor
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Now wow us with that study you did on how Contrails affect cow flatulence which contributes to Climate Change, oh erudite, Peer Reviewed Scientist!

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 13:13 | 4428363 Flakmeister
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Are you trying to parody yourself?

I think it is working...

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 14:10 | 4428657 FrankDrakman
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Academic fraud? You mean like consipiring to wipe the Middle Age's 'little ice age' off their charts? Like manipulating data to 'hide the decline'? Like being wrong 13 out of 14 years on their annual forecasts (both UK Met and US service) but assuring us they can project 30 years into the future? Like the Indian would-be bodice-ripper author who admits he 'made up' the data about the decline of the Himalayan glaciers? Like the people who co-wrote the IPCC report who admitted that they 'suppressed' all reasonable doubt and skepticism in the report because "it was too important to get our (ed. gee, I thought it was science, not your opinion) opinion in front of policy makers"?

OK, flak, baby. I'm an engineer. When the results don't match our theory's predictions, WE CHANGE OUR THEORY. So here's a simple test for you:

Name ONE - just one, flak baby, just one - prediction made by the climate fraudsters that has come true. Al Gore's fairy tale 'An Unvarnished Lie" was excoriated in UK court for blatant assertions of what would happen that, in fact, haven't happened, despite more CO2 in the atmosphere each year. Not one of the IPCC's scare-narios has come true. So, please, find one that has.

Is Tuvalu under water? No. Is NYC under water? No. Is the recent western drought unprecedented? No (you could look up 'Dust Bowl', if you like. Gonna blame that on carbon?) Is the Antarctic ice shrinking? No. Is the Northwest passage navigable 12 months a year? No.

Just one - or, for the love of god, STFU.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 17:13 | 4429324 Flakmeister
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Making shit up again I see, just like Wegman and McIntyre and McKittrick

http://deepclimate.org/2010/11/16/replication-and-due-diligence-wegman-s...

 

Edit: Engineers don't really do "theories", they just do what physicists tell them to...

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 15:23 | 4428980 MeelionDollerBogus
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it's summer in the southern hemisphere - no cooling there.
Funny how you anti-warmer hoaxers just can't handle the concept that winter only happens to half the planet at a time.

Most sunspot activity does NOT in fact impart excess heat to the Earth - most of it is charged particles. The irradiance of the sun TO the earth has not increased to match our temperature rises.

What's increased is the containment of heat already on the surface.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:45 | 4427772 j8h9
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No Disaster aid for these areas, not one penny unless the monies can be offset by some tax cut. There is no such thing as global warming, there is no such thing as global warming, there is no such thing as global warming. We want de-regulation,  We want de-regulation, We want de-regulation... these storms are not the result of decades of belching chemical/oil shxt into the environment--they are because god is mad at homosexuals.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:47 | 4427785 pashley1411
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come'on, its just news.   When they name a Georgia storm "Sherman", then I'll get interested.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:49 | 4427790 orangedrinkandchips
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

cmon...strap on a pair southerners......deal with it

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:52 | 4427800 tnquake
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Hey FEMA, I'm 5 miles from N GA, where be my free goverment money?

Hey NSA, please let FEMA know I want my $$, this is our Katrina!!

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:46 | 4427828 GetZeeGold
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this is our Katrina!!

 

If they come to confiscate your guns......don't answer the door. Might want to pour some EVOO on the porch. They'll never be able to get traction to work the battering ram.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:11 | 4428050 DOT
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this is our Waco!!

 

 

What a coincidence!

The cops were just about to serve a warrant for the guy with the new flame throwing tank they got from the Feds when the whole house just blew up.

Natural Gas leak no doubt about it. Well, at least it was warm for a while.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:02 | 4427846 TheMerryPrankster
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Fema and GEMA said "sorry we spent all our monies on bailing out TBTF banks and industries, we must sieze IRA,401k and savings accounts to bail out Goldman Sachs next time around.

Limits to growth say, crony government will do everything to protect status quo and hide true state of collapse for as long as possible. Must keep consumers unaware until they die off from collapse.

Fluoride,antidepressants,television, spectacles of glorious sporting events and gossip writ large to distract the masses from the inevitable collapse caused by peak oil.

George BUsh jr's advice for battling economic decline and collapse of society, "keep shopping" - shows the true nature of the propaganda, keep it proped until it can't be proped up no more..

Your check is in the mail, go look in the mailbox everyday, just like the cargo cult, someday the gods will bring you fortune. Go to the mall and pray to the appliance gods, pray for manna. Deny the world, embrace television it is the reality of hope and dreams.

Maybe you are the next American Idle.

Fema is looking out for you and the government is your friend... thats why they are buying Sniper rounds and hollow points and targets of pregnant women and children.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:35 | 4427937 combatsnoopy
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You can't have FEMA unless you're in NYC and you experience a "tropical storm", aka. a sprinkle or for "suffering" a little brush fire like San Diego did.  Otherwise, you're gonna have to loot for it like the Rodney King rioting peeps and Katrina people did.

See, that was Koreatown's mistake.  They suffered $250 million in damages because the authorities provoked the rioters' anger at the Koreans in order to protect Beverly Hills.  Bill Clinton and Al SHarpton showed up, Koreatown got NADA while South Central blacks who were rioting got city aid as a reward for looting the non-rioters, modest LEGAL immigrants.

And Mexicans get free medicare for being illegal. 

Don't you see how aid works in America?   Let's not stop there.  Let's GIVE money to already well off Israel when they have a robust economy and we don't. 

That's okay.  The check to the U.S. Treasury was already written in Remnimbis- I can't afford to pay them back.  Are Americans CRAZIE?!!!

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:59 | 4427825 MontgomeryScott
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The DEA and the FBI have released a report on drug usage in Atlanta. It seems that minorities are again invading the inner city:

Just before 5 a.m., the number of customers in the dark was 2,000. That number climbed to more than 10,000 by 7 a.m. Ice was already accumulating on roads and bridges. National Weather Service forecasters used unusual dire language in warnings and memos early Wednesday, and they said that while a foot of snow could fall in some parts of Georgia, "it is the ice that will have the catastrophic impacts."

Can you imagine how many flights in to Mina, AR. it would take to bring in a FOOT of snow? the Ice is being shipped in from Mexico, though, right across the border. On a lighter note, the black market trades are looking up. 8,000 dark customers covering roads and bridges with Ice in only two hours time?

(sarc)

Good luck, Atlanta, and stay home for a while.

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:58 | 4427826 _SILENCER
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Looks like there'll be a few shovel ready jobs waiting for people this AM

Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:17 | 4427883 roadhazard
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25* and looking for a 14 inch accumulation. I have snowed myself in for the duration.

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