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Judge Who Jailed Ukraine Protesters Shot Dead
We previously highlighted just how serious the situation was in Ukraine - and Victoria Nuland's FUBAR comments and clear US manipulation did nothing to calm matters - but today's news (via Ria Novosti) suggests things are escalating rapidly. Alexander Lobodenko - a 34-year-old district court judge who recently sentenced several political protesters to house arrest has been shot dead.
A Ukrainian judge who recently sentenced several political protesters to house arrest has been shot dead by unknown attackers, police said Wednesday.
Alexander Lobodenko, a 34-year-old district court judge, was shot several times in the back by two assailants on a street near his home in central Ukraine late Tuesday night, the country’s Interior Ministry said.
One of the bullets grazed his spine, according to a statement on the Kremenchug district website, and Lobodenko died in intensive care at about 2 a.m. Wednesday.
Police have opened a criminal case into the death and said that Lobodenko was likely killed as a result of his judicial work. They did not speculate about which of the judge’s decisions may have motivated the attack.
One of Lobodenko’s most recent rulings, according to the Ukrainian newspaper Telegraf, sentenced two pro-European activists on January 28 to two months of house arrest.
The men had tried to break into the city hall building during a rally in Kremenchug days before, in a local instance of a broad anti-government protest movement that has engulfed Ukraine for the last two months.
Meanwhile, investors are increasingly of the view that Ukraine will need to devalue by at least 20% further...
Ukraine is key candidate among CIS countries for further devaluation, Sergey Dergachev, who helps oversee $9 billion as a portfolio manager at Union Investment Privatfonds in Frankfurt, said by e-mail.
Hryvnia to devalue by “at least” 20% vs dollar in 3-6 mos.
“Ukraine has still a very overvalued FX rate, and Ukraine has only bought some time with the introduction of capital controls last week, since they do not really fix the macroeconomic imbalances”
Move by Kazakh authorities yday to devalue the currency is “clear signal to Ukraine that current muddle through of strong UAH defense is not sustainable”
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Now if only that shit would happen in America with the judges, bankers, and politicians.
It will, and it won't be very plesant for anybody when it does, including us.
(You forgot cops and other LEOs. If we're going to have to go through living hell, and make no mistake, it will be a living hell, you might as well include the enforcement arm.)
Can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.
You be the egg.
Zero Hedge has done it again -- spreading and promoting RUSSIAN propaganda lies.
Are you the fuckers at Zero Hedge on Kremlin's payroll or a part of the Russian media propaganda machine?
What evidence do you have to refute the point?
AP:
"But the ministry made no direct link between the cases and the murder...
Judges in Ukraine have a bad reputation, and are often accused of corruption.
According to a recent poll, eight Ukrainians out of 10 say they have little confidence in the profession.
Several judges have been killed in Ukraine in recent years."
Great, sounds like somene has decided to clean up the corruption - if it can't be done through the law, because the core of the judicial system is so fucked up, then it can be done through the barrel.
Distorted Russian media reports on Kiev protests anger Ukrainians
When Vladimir Putin, Russian president, picked Dmitry Kiselev on Monday to head a new international news service, the television host’s brief was to tell the world the truth about Russia.
But Mr Kiselev’s performance on Ukraine has prompted criticism that he is spearheading a push to transform news reporting into propaganda...
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e9f4c210-61cb-11e3-aa02-00144feabdc0.html#axzz...
Beleive all the criminal mafia mainstream media from whatever criminal mafia source you want. The oligarchs of any nation are not our friends and have their spin put on the news.
Sorry, but I'm more likely to believe FT and AP than to some anonymous, opinionated, and biased Tyler Durden or Russian Ria Novosti.
...He has also tried to discredit the protests by claiming they are driven by nationalists and fascists...
“What they showed on Russian TV and what they wrote in the Russian press had nothing to do with what we saw with our own eyes. That made us feel great shame,” said Andrei Yurov, a Russian rights activist who recently visited Kiev. “The media must illuminate the events there as objectively as possible. Society, and also many representatives of the elite who do not have first-hand information, must realise what is really happening so that we don’t have illusions and won’t make wrong economic and political decisions.”
FT is not a biased surce. You bet.
Yanukovych's "family business" links him to Putin's Kremlin
The pro-Russian leanings of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and his associates have triggered a national crisis following November's shocking decision to back out of signing a deal that would have brought the country closer to the EU. Yet the Kremlin's hold over Yanukovych may not be restricted to the international power play, but include shadowy financial strings: investigations by bne has found the Kremlin's fingerprints all over Austrian holding structures used by Yanukovych and his cronies to hide their assets...
...But what is clear is the assets of Ukraine's embattled president and his closest advisers – the hardline head of the presidential administration Andriy Klyuyev and loyalist Prime Minister Mykola Azarov – appear to be held via a family of Austrian lawyers with links to the Kremlin, according to bne inquiries.
http://www.bne.eu/story5697/Yanukovychs_family_business_links_him_to_Russia
http://www.bne.eu/pics/1/5697_0114_Ukraine_politics_Proksch_scheme.jpg
http://www.bne.eu/pics/1/5697_letter.jpg
And the AP!?! credible? HAHAHA needed a laugh
seek help...have you bought several bridges recently?
"said Andrei Yurov, a Russian rights activist" - LOL!!
Andrei Yurov - he like Navalny, too, graduated from Yale University and he too friends with McCain?!
Or he too like Klitschko - half his life lived in the U.S. and Germany? LOL
"Anger Ukrainians" do not cause distorted the Russian media. "Anger Ukrainians" it is anger some of the Ukrainians, who receive instructions from Washington.
Pennsylvania judge sentenced to 28 years in prison for selling teens to prisons.
Disgraced Pennsylvania judge Mark Ciavarella Jr has been sentenced to 28 years in prison for conspiring with private prisons to sentence juvenile offenders to maximum sentences for bribes and kickbacks which totaled millions of dollars. He was also ordered to pay $1.2 million in restitution.
http://www.examiner.com/article/pennsylvania-judge-sentenced-to-28-years-prison-for-selling-teens-to-prisons
Edward Snowden, the NSA, and the US Courts
..., it is instructive to understand the complicity of the US Supreme Court in the previous regime of secrecy that has been perpetrated by the NSA. The ultimate arbiter of constitutionality in the US legal system has shown itself, in past cases, to be highly protective of the government in these matters, and has previously assented to some quite absurd doctrines and arguments to prevent any meaningful judicial review. ... This has meant that while the illusion of judicial control has been maintained, the court has taken a policy of de facto immunity from constitutional scrutiny. As Larry Klayman put it, “most judges are just ‘yes men’ who rubber-stamp the federal government’s agenda.” [10]
http://mises.org/daily/6662/Edward-Snowden-the-NSA-and-the-US-Courts
The 'wise latina' put as stop to judicial rubber stamping.
Only white men are corrupt.
A curly little hair sitting on a coke can told me so....
I hope this sob gets raped day after day in prison for 28 years.
What the American people refuse to listen to or what is blocked through the MSM.
Just ask Tom Brokow about G.H. Walker Bush request for a stable of young boyz that he reported in 1989 in the Franklin scandal? Joe Paterno's scandal and cover up for his coach? Jimmy Savell getting covered by then Prime Minister Thatcher when the allegations were surfacing?
The West has some very sick motherfuckers in their midst in this department. What should alarm us all is how this has been going on for decades with the CPS on many occasions involved in the abuse, taking money and looking the other way when the opportunities avail themselves or become lucrative.
atta boy ...slime folks when Jimmy Savell was covered by the 'beloved' BBC... come on man .... stop with sideswipes....unless you just want to try to spin people up just ofr the sake of it
Umm, CPS? What's dat?
The problem I have is being a low-life cowardly douche and shooting them in the back, if correct that is bullshit, be a man and shoot them looking them in the eye!
Supposedly the early American colonists fought with guerilla warfare. They didn't stand in a long line and just shoot as the British army did.
I can appreciate your sentiment but there is no honor among thieves.
Why honor these frauds with a "brave" death??
The first imperative is to survive.
Next is to tell the story in a way to impress our buddies.
I'm sure the Special Ops. 'heroes' that purpostedly killed him told Osama to turn around, look them in the eyes and take it like a man...
You fight the enemy to destroy them. Front. Back. Side. From the drone in the air...it's ALL good if the target is eliminated...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/03/obama-drones-double-down_n_4208...
Thanks for the info.
I try to keep in mind the official cause of Hitler's doctor's death was suicide.
How many cases this judge has had in recent years? Only two?!? Riight...
Let me spell it out for you CoR........ this judge was killed because the people that are doing the protesting are sick and freaking tired of their corrupt government. This judge wasn't killed because he ruled in favor of some cop giving a driver a speeding ticket and that driver was pissed. He was killed to show TPTB that people have had enough and any judge that throws one of their fellow citizens in jail, or places them on house arrest, he can expect to get a bullet in the back. The message other judges are receiving is, "Hmmm...maybe I should join the side of the protestors and not the corrupt politicians if I value my life?!" These protestors need to keep escalating the violence because holding up signs isn't going to accomplish SHIT.
I thought most of the Ukraine protesters were on the State Department payroll?
What's the choice again, Rothschild or Putin?
@Cult_of_Reason:
Your credibility and word here is shit. In another thread you flaty stated as fact that the Nuland call was fake. You were wrong and talking out of your ass. You have yet to own up to that. Until you do, I doubt anybody here is going to put much faith in anything you say.
Then read FT and AP articles...
I don't give a shit, but Zero Hedge has been spreading RUSSIAN media propaganda LIES about the protests in Kiev.
I call it as I see it.
Go to Bosnia and you will see the future of Ukraine. Most of the revolutions have so far been financed by the bankers, for whom destruction means profit. You are a tool and by time you realise that, most of Ukraine will be wrecked and owned by the multicorporations.
@: Cult_of_Reason
there is a CIA organization called ODPOR (or resistance in english)
why areo all the revolutions through out europe and elsewhere called by colours??
that is their call sign my friend
CIA does most of these revolutions
so you better stfu cuz you dont know shit
but that is mostly due to the ussa media propaganda you cannot see through deepshit
Robespirre started that phoney Cult O' Treason shit.
..& He eventually got exactly what was comming to him...
your credibility and word here is shit ...... nice
can you be my Judge too ? Please?
How sure are any of us as to what the "Nuland call" was about except it was excerpted into the 'news flow' by someone for some purpose? And I am no fan of our present executive
Old public relations rule: Never take anything you read at face value. First read a news articel to discover its agenda and likely source and that tips off or clarifies the likely agenda. Then go back and glean for relevant information.
But I guess you want to be misled by whomever .....
wow ... so many Madame LaFarges here ... the Revolution will be very neat & clean when it comes I guess ..... but we will ignore the fact that Russian Bolsheviks starved to death between 5-7 million hapless Ukrainians in early 1930s
The 'banksters' did not do this ...... and I am no fan of financial services which has benefitted in an outsized way since the 1990s on ...it will revert to the mean in its own way as it must
only the bolsheviks were as Russian as the names of their leaders were true.
In the 2nd Congress of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party, held in Brussels and Londonduring August 1903, Lenin and Julius Martov disagreed over the membership rules. Lenin wanted members "who recognise the Party Programme and support it by material means.
That revolution was planned in London and Brussels more than in Moscow.
Bolsheviks.....
Soviet from 1917 thru Stalin was never a Russian construct.
Financed from outside Russia.
Leadership were not Russian.
Stalin was not a Russian. Neither were his henchmen.
Russians farmers starved also. Stolen grain traded to West. Russians suffered more than any.
Your so full of shit you must be a Bolshevik.....
Kurva tvoia Mama....
Ukrainian protestors = tools of the US/EU/Jews.
study the early 1930s sir .....
@ Cult_of_Reason
Why did you come here - on the ZH? Here are going to smart and intelligent people who can think themselves. Will be better if you go to look faux news.
There you will be happy and there you will find a lot of your empty like-minded people.
@Cult_of_Reason
I've given up . The same folks here would have called the American Revolution and George Washington a bunch of hooligans or terrorists. They would have sided with England. They love Putin and pray at his altar. Not one of them has a clue what he is about.
Most of the good folks left and can you blame them. ZH has turned into a tabloid garbage sort of site, putting spin on everything and posting nonsense and shit. Like so many others I just search the comments for gems and unfortunately there aren't many anymore.
Many people here can see the similarities between revolution in Russia planned in London and Brussels 100 years ago WITH revolution planned in Ukraine today in London, Brussels, NY today.
The good folk who have left the ZH are the ones who have been banned, and most of them would say that cult of reason is far from using reason, and his/hers thinking is influenced more by heart. Just as yours.
Yeah sure Vlad....sure...
yes, it is for sure.
Here you go Fuck nuts...Give me your spin on this....
Below is a overview of the past 3 weeks from Lesya Orobets, MP so you can get an idea of what's been going on while it's been quiet in the world news.
What's achieved in THREE WEEKS since “the negotiations” started — net result
NOT EVEN ONE political prisoner was exonerated despite the so-called ‘amnesty law’. There are many citizens, whom the State Prosecution Office seeks to imprison for 12-15 years, but now agreed to keep them under house arrest for a couple of months during the proceedings in order to look benevolent - until protesters will go home. The new big hit was yesterday’s arrest of four Afghan war veterans, who caught and delivered a pocket thief to the police office. So they were arrested for that, while the thief was let go and probably thoroughly thanked by the police and treated with free cigarettes.
Yanukovych is still the President. Pshonka is the Prosecutor General. Rybak is the Speaker, Kaletnyk remains Deputy Speaker, Zakharchenko is the Minister of Internal Affairs (these comrades aka ministers of the Cabinet-in-resignation don’t even bother with the ‘acting’ prefix despite resigning).
Azarov relaxes at his Austrian estate. Considering that he never was a businessman (that’s if we don’t count his brandchild - the ‘VAT administering system’ and in fact the Tax Office in its entirety as his business) – he apparently lives in Austria in visible poverty. His righteous soul is tormented with the ‘rotting decay of EU gay culture’ - this is not his hometown Kaluga.
NOT EVEN ONE criminal act against the citizens of Ukraine, beginning from the student beatings of November 30, 2013, is under scrutiny of the State Prosecution Office, and the State Prosecution Office is brazenly showing it off.
The Acting Cabinet of Ministers led by Arbuzov (at least someone’s dreams keep coming true) still rules the country and pretends that nothing has happened. Yanukovych has just signed another paper overriding the Constitution and gives the acting Cabinet the same authority as the constitutionally legitimate Cabinet. Apparently you could do these things, if you want it really bad.
Through the so-called ‘uncontrolled currency volatility’ Yanukovych's ‘Family’ led by Arbuzov has just made a couple hundred million dollars by squandering NBU currency reserves through their puppet banks, whether directly controlled or technically owned by the state.
In order to ‘stabilize the currency’, the "Family" chaired by Arbuzov and through his puppet Sorkin has enacted NEVER SEEN BEFORE ‘National Bank of Ukraine regulations’, which would look tough even for a country in a full height of a war. Now, the hapless Ukrainian exporters must sell 100% of their income denominated in foreign currency and HAS NO RIGHT to purchase any foreign currency even to pay its debts – apparently NBU is saving the country! But... as always in Ukraine, there were selected few bank (miraculously!) do sell foreign currency. Although, with a 15-20% premium over the official rates. Buy or leave. These dollars come from NBU reserves, see above p.6.
As of today, dozens more people are sent to the ‘house arrest’, dozens more cars are burnt down. Searches, individual terror -- the standard arsenal of ‘Yanukovich the Negotiator’.
Berkut and the rest of the police, who barely could breath on January 22 while all reserves from all over Ukraine (even using the tax police officers) were pulling to Kyiv, are fully refreshed. They might not have achieved the 6x times increase to 30,000 troops (just to put it in context, nobody gives concern to funding children cancer facilities in Ukraine) -- but they are surely far on their course, just look at all the newspaper adverts.
Now they accumulated to excess all sorts of sophisticated weaponry (during hot times at Grushevskogo street Berkut were resorted to petrol bombs themselves as well as cobblestones). Again, it’s no time to spend on kids with cancer and their medicine, the big boys need grenades at 60$ per piece. Perhaps the good engineers and the police supply department who bought ‘nonlethal’ brass bullets with steel core used to kill protesters at Grushevskogo Str., have thought of something powerful enough to replace the DYI antipersonnel grenades Berkut have put together, because the boys had to use cellotape to bind nails or rocks to the stun grenades. That takes unduly time and decreases the number of citizens maimed.
All the former criminals registered in the police, all the freed on parole or, if failing that -- plain clothed police office workers are herded into ‘people militias’ in East Ukraine. Where even that is not enough, ‘Russian bikers’ and ‘Don’s Cossacks’ have popped up. Although the Cossacks arrive from St. Petersburg rather than the Don region.
Expectedly warmed up for the Olympics the federalization topic has been raised. With all the ferried bandits (both plain criminals and police officers, who turned to be criminals too), why not do "federalisation" of Ukraine?
The criminal situation in Kyiv (particularly its center) is blew away anything seen in the wild 90s. It is natural too, considering Yanukovych's "Family" has transported all possible criminal elements to Kyiv for 2 months, promising to pay USD 25-50 per day and usually not paying in full.
And not least, the "Family" has earned USD 1-1,5-2 billion in last month – since public procurements bonanza still continues! Even when only 60% of budget income in January is coming, Yanukovych's personal income cannot suffer anyway. But no worries, earnings from the sale of NBU currency reserves has covered and even more then “covered” that gap.
Klyuev changed Lyovochkin. He is taking a post of the head of the some office that has no place in Constitution (Presidential Administration is not described in the current Constitution). Nothing changed: Klyuev does what Klyuev always does.
Overall nothing unforeseeable at the beginning of the ‘negotiations’ have happened. What awaits us next:
A total collapse of the economy. Beginning with the banking system, with the chain reaction taking the rest. If somebody is thinking about withdrawing his deposit from a bank, that’s the right time to do it.
A poorly disguised attempt of intervention and annexation by Putin. Hence all the ‘federalization’ talk and the brotherly help of the ‘russian bikers’. The Olympics will be over soon, and by that time they can run a few powwows of ‘local councils and nomenclature’ with appeals to intervene. The role of the SBU (State Security Service), headed by a man ‘retired’ from the Russian Army in 1998, is quite clear and predictable – the SBU will fight the "radicals" and "attempts to overthrow the government" - those of pro-Western protesters, of course.
The spin I put on this is that ukraninan people are fighting between themselves, and in function of the outside forces. I see plenty of open involvement of the EU and US politicians, so it is fair to say they are the ones financing revolution.
My other spin is that protesters are just as ready to use force as the forces of the establishment. Both are ukrainians. And I can guarantee you they will all wish they stayed peacefull, in few years time, when they see results.
As for the president, there are elections after all. If people in Ukraine want Ukraine to belong to EU, to me it is all the same. At least they should do it peacefully, for their own sake.
More blood on Bens hands
I believe the OVERWHELMING majority of police and military think like us.
Despite whatever "paper" they may have signed.
Who the hell upvoted this? Police are TRAINED to trick the unthinking majority into giving up their fourth and fifth ammendment rights at the most common of encounters. They are armed to the fucking teeth with tanks, SWAT gear, anti riot gear, tear gas, etc. and for what? To join the protestors and topple the status quo when shit hits the fan? Do you really think cops and military are on the side of the commoner? Have you paid any attention to any of the global uprisings over the past five years? Have you learned nothing?
Trust the cops and military to be on your side when you need them the most at your own peril.
I think this needs emphasis. I should also add that when you exercise these rights, should whatever have happened make the news, it will be stated that you are not "cooperating" with the police. Well, no fucking shit! Regardless of whether or not I've committed a crime, the cocksuckers are trying to throw me into prison! Think I'm going to cooperate with that?
That is a huge source of frustration for me when arguing with the idiots in my life.
"Just let them search the car and be on your way."
HAHA! Obviously none of these people I argue with have ever been stopped and subject to an illegal 4th ammendment infringing search. The cops are all too happy to dump every content of your vehicle onto the roadside and when they find nothing they are on their merry way. Of course they say fuck all to assisting in cleaning up their mess and leave you to put everything back in place on the side of the interstate with traffic flying by at 70 mph. They may or may not have cut into your seat cushions looking hidden drugs and here in TN lifted any cash off your person under the guise of it being drug money.
Fuck the police, plain and simple. COPS ARE A PARASITE!
Vaquero,
Don't you live out in the cactus sticks? Isn't there a subtle but discernible difference between the nearest appointed police chief and elected sheriff out there which is also reflected in their underlings?
Just up'd "^".
And for further soapbox debate that the mainstream media will never post. This just in!
http://americanfreepress.net/?p=15503
I am sure that the majority of police and military want to make it to retirement.
Therefore, the majority of police and military want status quo.
They will be loyal to the Giver of retirement.
"They will be loyal to the Giver of retirement."
This is the absolute truth. They don't spend all those years doing what others tell them only to end up having to save for their own retirements like the rest of us.
The math doesn't lie regarding pensions, etc.
It is not happening, the system is dying, we must adapt.
I hope we come together friends.
Please consider joining us.
The time grows short.
Listen and decide.
http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/files/radio/14-1-24%20Awake%20and...
I'm glad somebody brought up the idea that a lot of pensions are simply promises will not be kept. When this realization hits those who are relying on them, it will be interesting, to say the least.
You mean you think like the majority of the police and armies of oppressive regimes.
I was being pretty vague, I'd like to see those three groups taken care of before lower ranks, most law enforcers are just pawns. While bankers, judges, and politicians are very self aware of their corrupt actions and behaviors that affect everyone on a larger basis then your average cop.
Patience, the bankers are dying of their own volition, already.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-12/another-jpmorgan-banker-dies-37...
Problem is, the cops are the ones who will be shooting at you. Bullets don't care if you are going after lower levels or higher levels. That, and a lot of them are always knowingly trying to figure out how to break the rules without gettin caught, just like everybody else.
Exactly! Cops have always been and always will be on the front lines of putting down any attack on the powers of the status quo. My mind is continually blown at the number of people who think police are their friend and are there to serve them.
Cops serve the coffers and interests of the big boys under the guise of serving the commoner, the end.
Cops are the biggest gang in the world. They protect each other, even when they are from other countries. And they are usually really fucking dumb or they wouldn't be cops in the first place.
This is actually policy driven in some police departments.
The FAA does the same thing with the hiring of Air Traffic Controllers. I'm near the Palmdale FAA facility, that controls the airspace of the whole western United States and I've met the Air Traffic Controllers at the local watering hole and they are all High School Grads, some college.
It's true, about getting bored. The FAA found that the college grads, with their higher IQ's and drive, got easily bored and distracted, sitting at a screen for hours and following transponder-driven dots across the screen all day long.
Yes! They have no intellect or anything productive to offer society. So, they skim a bit off the productive and innovative as well as the depressed and downtrodden. They don't care, just skim some off the top so they can buy every member of the crew an assult rifle and armor.
Use cash? Drug money. Don't use cash? You've already laundered your drug money. Don't want to be searched? You have drugs. Consent to a search? They just know you have drugs. Cops are the proverbial nail looking for a hammer.
Ukraine is a fairly big country next to Russia. A large percentage of their population is Russian. We should stay out of any Ukraine - Russia monkey-business.
We would not want Russia doing something similar in Mexico.
Bingo. This whole thing is engineered by the West. Just like virtually every hotspot of unrest in the world, the western powerbase's fingerprints are all over it in terms of directly causing it, or the strife being a byproduct of their meddling. I'd check victoria noodleman for powder burns on her hands.
Better yet; send her there to check on local developments; and then have her guard detail get lost in traffic for an hour or so.
Canadian Dirtlump Bingo. This whole thing is engineered by the West
And to be fair, I assume you believe various controversies in the West are being engineered by the Commmunist.
While we definitely stick our nose where we shouldn't and we certainly stir shit up, it is going to be difficult to determine how much of what is the intended consequence of our meddling and how much is simple blow back, i.e. unintended consequences of our actions. The world is fucked, and control is an illusion that our government believes to be real.
Unfortunately, those Communists are running things in the West.
You mean all the color revolutions in the west, the calls for regime change they've made to western countries, the limited kinetic military actions they've conducted, the funding training and dispatching of irregular armies to attack sovereign nations?
Sure, all zero of them.
Since Pyatt and Nuland have done such a wonderful job in the "blowback" department, maybe they can sweetin the deal of this latest announcement by delivering cookies to the terrorists who murdered this judge?
What I wouldn't give to be a "Spetsnaz in waiting" lining up for task of pizza delivery boy to Pyatt and Nuland during their lunch break in Kiev!
George, the Nazi, Soros is your man. I recently saw the Munich Security conference on BR tv here in zee faterland with Zbigniew Brzezinski sitting at the table still playing grand chess. The extremely well informed Russian diplomat cut him up while Klitchko talked like a real human being in his non-native German. America is simply embarrasing..Fuck the EU!
I tend to disagree. The Ukraine has a population who lived under Communism in living memory. They didn't like it, and don't want it back.
Their current government turned away from the EU (and its torqued down social democracy), and toward Russia and its effective secret police rule. The people are getting worried, and they understand the stakes better than most Americans, who can simply not imagine living in a totalitarian state.
The 'west' in this example is who, exactly? Obama isn't even interested in keepin nukes out of the hands of people who finance ongoing terrorist attacks against the US. He sure as shit isn't going to get into it with Putin.
I doubt he relishes a putinium dressing on his sandwich.
"The 'west' in this example is who, exactly?"
You really should try to keep up:
That would be, amonst others, this Zionist bitch married to the the neocon thug Robert Kagan.
She was, of course, prior to obeying the tribal impulse to change the name, of the Nudelman family. No surprise there.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-diplomat-victor...
No argument there. But you could show conclusive proof to the fucks in DC that keeping our nose out of that monkey business would be the best course of action for the US and they'd still feel a need to meddle. They simply cannot help themselves. They feel like they must control everything, even though shit can and will slip out of their control. The consequences for their actions will still remain afterwards, and that really bothers me.
the fucks in DC also have masters which is why the fucks in DC always look incompetent while moveing the ball consistently down the field. the fucks in DC do NOT have the best interest of the USA in mind but have sold that interest to the globalists.
Just like Libya
Are you copying my posts? I just said this a few days ago. But, really, this is the case, isn't it ? Hubris; overreach. An un-obtainable goal with tremendous blow-back potential.
I agree, but only 17% of the roughly 45 million Ukranians is Russian. It is larger enough of a minority, however, to allow Russia to feel they can manipulate things for their own good.
The US has enough problems, let the EU be the "western" shitheads this time.
The 17% are also concentrated in a few eastern Ukrainian oblasts. Maybe best to just partition those off. Yes, the US has no business meddling there, but the popular opposition in the Ukraine to Russian hegemony is real, not contrived by George Soros. There is a long history of abuse there. Obviously, Soros and his thugs love taking advantage of these situations and steering them toward violence.
anybody that thinks Putin aint gonna put this EU, US led operation in check at the appropriate time, with the appropriate method is seriously trippin.....
just wait.......
a little polonium goes a long way....
What about polonium?
Brits went quiet now after they became implicated...don't wanna talk about it..media silent
Made up crap to demonize Russian as usual.
Russia had tried to communicate to Brits about radioactive smuggling in UK (Loundon) and no response.
Brits would not share information, of course..either the usual suspects, Litvinenko smuggling, or Berezovsky or all of this...
quite possibly murdered to blame Putin.
"The Phony Litvinenko Murder" William Dunkerley also has a blog
Putin is waiting for the olympics to end and then watch the shit hit the fan.
Let's hope so.
The constant petty attacks on Putin and Russia over the Olympics by the US media must get irritating after a while.
Yeah.
Here's hoping Putin nukes USSA.
That way the World will be safer without United Stateans and their 1 dollar a gallon gas.
A large percentage of their population is Russian
I woudln't call 17% "a large percentage" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Ukraine
90'schild
If only I could hit the "up arrow" 1,000 time for you on that point!
Anyone hear the latest about Eric Holder's big announcement. Is it voluntary or are the petitions actually working!
start with gs and the fed please?
You be the first to start the revolution.
strait up not all the judges, its the ish that States think Fed courts have jurisdiction where they'll say they do... cizenwry as well lovin up on Hamilton's spiritual Marshall mella, who da fuk thinkn they r interpreting their own limited enumerated powers, the resr reserved to the States and State judgess, yo vot wik yo feet, lolo
That looks amazingly like English!
You first need a few good men.
"two months of house arrest"...?
He was their buddy.
"two months of house arrest" they get during investigation period and before hearings in court. after that they get 8-15 years in prison.
More please.
Well, good thing Stalingr.. I mean Sochi is surrounded by Russian troops.
And the angels sang.
Fuck yeah! I hope this trend flows westward.
Yeah.
Bloodshed in the USSA is preferable.
To someone in power, Judge Alexander Lobodenko's sentence of two month's house arrest was too mild, so the judge received a death sentence.
Yeah, I don't think this guy was targeted for giving 2 months house arrest to a couple of protesters. That's what we get in the MSM report.
The "two month house arrest" is just a cut out from original news. As I wrote above they sentenced for 2 mo during investigation period while police and prosecution are fabricating collecting evidences. After hearing in court they can expect from 8 to 15 years in prison for "organization of mass riots".
Excellent gun control. Who's next in line for his job? Ambitious bastard!!!
Peaceful protestors my ass.
Paid provocateurs; more likely.
Next judge, 24 years old...
Benjamin Button judges.
One of the professionals at the grassy knoll site; was later jailed for an attempted sniper kill on a Federal Judge; but he died in prison while firming up a decision to "talk about his past". The CIA loves this kind of shit; unrest and turmoil.
Equal justice comming to a country near you.
Not to USSA though.
United Stateans talk though, but are all a bunch of fat geeks playing Call of Duty 8 on their Xbox, shouting "bitchezzz" on ZeroHedge.
United Stateans will take it up the ass and love it.
You are assimilated.
Judges being shot, bankers being suicided, I wonder which group is next.
The pets. definitely the pets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULUiV_tj1DI
If we are takiing a vote, I vote politician.
The sheep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu_30-8ZlmQ
some politicians, I hope!
(sorry Double guns, didn't see your reply. I guess we think alike!)
This man obviously failed at life...
I'm thinking of the DC Circuit Court judge who just gave away the control of the Internet to the cable company monsters.
It's war time, everything is fair, no fear
When they say the homie murdered the judge, I don't care
Fuck 'em, he deserved it, long as the homie get away
And don't get caught for the crime, I encourage it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbeBOJNWuFw
I don't think anyone is going to be angry enough to kill over 2 months house arrest. It's quite possible the CIA is trying to stir things up some more.
Those sick fucks at Langley think this is a game. However there are real people with families and kids that will be permanently scarred or worse from their fucking "game".
This is all starting to get way out of hand, and we'll all be lucky to live through it.
There is a militant wing within this protest.
Indeed these things can get "out of hand."
This is not good news for "peaceful transitions."
Are we expecting a "peaceful transition" here when the SHTF?
Well, we should work toward a peaceful east-german style stand-down. It's a real possibility.
Fuck that noise. You don't ask rats, roaches and termites to leave. You kill them.
There's talk that a lot of the protesters the CIA and State Department (among others) are organizing are neo-nazi skinheads. Ukraine has a nasty group of those. If a judge puts a couple of these lovelies in stir, he's likely to get shot. The history of that part of the world is not reading for the faint of heart or weak of stomach.
House arrest is hardly "stir". This is the reason the MSM is attempting to foist on us.
Ah, but have you seen the women?
The headline should read: "...killed by USSA-hired hit squad"
It's the new Treadstone. Treadstone on steroids.
Time for Putin to invade and put an end to this EU/USA-sponsored protest nonsense.
Ukraine is a trap laid out for Putin.
He will not fall though. He will not invade Ukraine. It's easier to turn of the gas to Western Ukraine off. That way the neonazi from western Ukraine can go pound ice.
People need to be held accountable..
I would support this, if it wasn't the case that the Ukrainian protestors are puppets of the US/EU/Jews.
I agree, it's a real paradox.
Hopefully this will come to America and we can clean out the corruption. Remember, death is the punishment for treason. And the people have the right to exact justice when and if the government does not obey the Constitution. The govt. is right,The People ARE the enemy of the government, a corrupt and treasonous government. The difference is The People are not the wrongdoers, the government is. The whole system has been taken over and corrupted. Time for blood in the streets.
Aren't you all ZeroHedgers these proto-man, all-muscles feels-no-pain, hates-Obamao, that stacks gold and buys loads of weapons and bullets?
If you fat geeks on ZeroHedge are soo loaded with guns and gold, start the fucking revolution already. Go kill judges and politicians, if you are soo tough.
You ZeroHedgers are all a bunch of pussies. United Stateans neonazi are gayfied girls when compared to Eastern Europeans skinheads.
United Stateans talk tough, but have no balls. Just because you all play GrandTheftAuto on your Xbox doesn't make you tough.
Prove me wrong, make it to the news by starting an armed revolt in the USSA.
Why are YOU on the internet instead of out doing your big armed revolt thing, big man?
Now go the fuck away, son. The adults are busy, enjoying other peoples miseries from afar.
The Eastern European skinheads don't have prospects or much to lose. Young folks in the USA will be there soon.
Excellent. One less tyrant alive. Fuck him. Now if this could happen in more countries... (Murica for example)...
And so it begins.... Seems like the TPTB never take violence seriously until it is them. In true self-government, the ultimate sovereign authority is always the people.
The people are the real government, the politicians are jjust temporary employees. If all the institutions and peaceful remedies are subverted and have failed the people, then it is the absolute right of the people to make their representatives responsive by whatever means necessary. The people have no choice but to respond to the violent challenges to their sovereign authority or they will lose them forever. Farage predicted this.
All blame for this lies with the corrupt crony politicians who are the genuine anti-government actors here. Same as everywhere else.
Mt 24
You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.
http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/messages/latest-messages/
The Lord says He can get me out of this mess, but He's pretty sure you're fucked.
Victory goes to those willing to escalate to the max.
In other word, not United Stateans.
United Stateans are pussies hiding behind their Xboxes.
No revolution will come to the USSA.