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Luxury Brand CEO To The Poor "Stop Whining... Or Move To China"
Ironic perhaps on the heels of President Obama's minimum-wage-hike executive order - and our discussion of the salaries for public and private employees in America, we find the following...
Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
The following clip from CNBC of Nicole Miller’s CEO Bud Konheim is absolutely disgusting. Then again, this simply continues the recent trend of wealthy people coming on financial outlets and telling the poor how they are supposed to feel.
Rather than me rewriting what I already wrote on this topic, I encourage you to read my very well received post from last week:
An Open Letter to Sam Zell: Why Your Statements are Delusional and Dangerous.
This is how I ended that article:
I don’t think you’re a bad guy with evil intent. I think you are a money obsessed financier who hasn’t taken the time to actually understand what is really going on within your own country because you have your head so far up your own ass. It’s hard for anyone to actually look at themselves in the mirror and be honest about themselves and the myths they create. However, history shows us that when decadent plutocrats are unable to do so, we end up with disastrous situations. Situations which are often times violent and result in despotism. A situation I desperately hope to avoid, and I truly hope you and others like you recognize your error before it is too late.
While the CNBC clip below is priceless, equally disturbing are the results from CNBC readers to the poll question:
Perhaps they could try asking poor people questions about themselves for a better perspective.
"So we're talking about woe is me, woe is us, woe is this... the guy that's making, oh my God, he's making $35,000 a year, why don't we try that out in India or some countries we can't even name."
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God help 'em, but arrogance usually comes at a price.
"Suck it up!"
Dunno, I think I'd be a hell of a lot more angry if he said, "Stop whining you middle class tax-paying scmucks."
I kinda feel the same way about the welfare queens rolling around in their escalades, playing the knockout game.
Anyone remember that fat drunk-face billionaire lady from Australia, telling the poor to "work harder"
Billionaire Heiress: Poors Should Work Harderhttp://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/billionaire-heiress-poors-should...
People who inherit money have no rights to say shit.
“Hunger whets everything, especially Suspicion and Indignation.” ? Thomas Carlyle, The French Revolution
“The rich are only defeated when running for their lives.” ? The Black Jacobins: Toussaint L'Ouverture and the San Domingo Revolution
The rumblings are intensifying...
indeed... but note a pattern that emerges throughout history. the real architects, behind the scenes usually escape, leaving some clueless wealthy to be ripped apart by the masses. the masses need to wise up and track down the real culprits, who set up and control a system that intentionally distorts so many aspects of this life.
Isn't this konheim asshole a little hypocritical?
We have to listen to him whine about other whiny assholes.
Talk about a little girlie bitch.
He should go join Buffett and Munger in a lemon party.
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
It is better to be of a lowly spirit with the poor than to divide the spoil with the proud.
-Some book
God hates rich people. And assholes. But I repeat myself...
There should be a Pulitzer prize for comments, and you should get it.
The poll results are totally fake. Think about the TNX, PM's, BLS, ADP, confidence indexes, on and on and how badly they are manipulated.... I mean, you think a silly CNBC poll is any different? The teevee station doesn't want a backlash, or bad press. Best way to snuff out the idiotic statements is to make believe the masses agree. End of story.
EVERYTHING is manipulated in a dying regime.
Philips Exeter
Dartmouth
father owned textile factory
so he inherited the know-how and money, made himself CEO, now tells others about meritocracy????
When I move to China I still will need to pay taxes to the US for my shitty $1 /wk job.
LET THEM EAT ASPARTAME SWEETENED GMO CAKE!!!
Hey! Good Michelle Obama impression!
The guys a hundred years old. And he's still a greedy bastard.
He'd look a lot better with a hemp necktie instead of that silly ascot.
Be more bearable too, and quieter.
Fucker probably expects to be hanged from a solid gold lamppost by a silk noose.
It is hard to take men in bowties seriously. Does the wearer mean to elicit feelings of pity or sympathy, or is he simply clueless, or does he idolize Forrest Gump?
That was actually written for poor people to make them feel good.
Help us 0b1, you're our only hope.
Couldn't resist.
"God hates rich people. And assholes"
Not so, Abraham and King David were both rich.
Both were generous, a characteristic not shared by assholes.
Lemon Party.
Ouch. I stung an entire office once with that image, and it was real bad news.
Lemon Party...
How am I supposed to sleep now, thanks...
12 YEARS I have managed not to find the last of the unholy trinity. Had no idea it existed.
You truly do have alignment to the dark side of the force.
Buffet is a leftist wanger who happens to have great investor perspective - but still a leftist
muppet.
There are no leftists.
Or right-wingers.
The entire sham is a puppet show for children & imbeciles.
Let's kill Nixon!
Yes. TPTB have always saught to defund education, destroy organized labor, and divide us with religion and racism. These are not new tactics.
A bunch of ignorant, basically illiterate, unorganized, and xenophobic people will never be able to wrest control from the elite.
When women are finally in the streets, unafraid of the police, unafraid of arrest, hungry and fearful for their children, is when the private jets will hit their private islands... and the cities will burn.
Agreed.
"A bunch of ignorant, basically illiterate, unorganized, and xenophobic people will never be able to wrest control from the elite. "
Control of WHAT?
The levers to the Great Ponzi (perpetual growth on a finite planet [the Big Lie])?
You see, the problem is not WHO has their hands on the levers, its the existence of the levers themselves. Doomed to repeat...
Not control of something. CONTROL ITSELF. Then figure out how to decide what levers to pull, create, fix, destroy.
This is an engineering problem and right now criminals are fiddling with the tips, murdering millions, when the problem is with the engine, and our oil pressure is low................ and they see the crash coming and throw you out to save themselves.
Save yourselves. Prep.
I respect your sentiments and agree 100% that this vile farce needs to blow (and it will). "defund education" though is absolute bullshit. The control mechanism is entirely communist in nature and 'it' has possessed so called education. Public schools are a cesspool and radically overfunded as essentially being miseducation camps employed as useful idiot creation factories.
"organized labor" is in bed with the beast.
You might have a clue insofar as recognizing the problem, but the 'solutions' you imply are suggestive of merely marching FORWARD to the death of decency.
Thank you, you saved me the trouble.
ISEEIT
You, falsely I think, presume what was implied.
Of course, more funding for the current educational (and health etc.) system,
and more power to the current approved labor unions are no solution.
But there is more than one way to "defund" education and healthcare. One way is to divert the funds for graft, profit-fixing, and wasteful counter-productive activities).
Similarly, Labor may be defanged and disorganized by other methods. For example restrictive laws and fragmentation (pointedly done ever since the IWW was prohibited).
This is the age when we can do just that
"the masses need to wise up and track down the real culprits, who set up and control a system that intentionally distorts so many aspects of this life."
The masses need to wise up and stop following "leaders," stop pretending that giving your power to someone else can somehow improve your situation. That's the essence of the Big Trick.
The masses never wise up.
The Marriner Eccles building would be an excellent place to start.
Like OJ is tracking down the 'real killers'?
Some real architects "get it" eventually. Anastasio Somoza got it from an RGP shot into his car in Brazil.
We have the internet now ,, their names and faces will be recognized for decades to come... they can't run to Switzerland or Cape Cod and hide this time... and nobody will raise a finger to find the perps that garrot them while eating soup in the grand banquet hall.
more on the 'don't pick on the uber wealthy' meme from jesse's cafe:
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.ca/2014/02/fear-and-loathing-on-wal...
When everyone who is wealthy is accused of "inheriting" or "stealing" to obtain their wealth at some point there is no incentive for them to become any wealthier, hence reinvest in our society.
I agree with the CEO to some degree.
The poor need to STFU and get to work and quit leeching off of society and whining about other people's wealth.
Otherwise the bitching will get seriously loud when Atlas decides to tell everyone to fuck off; a day which can not come soon enough.
I agree. This is class envy bullshit.
The sentiment does have its adherents. Joe Kernan saying, "I agree, thank you."
Having the cheering squad urge on these cretins isn't particularly conducive to harmony.
Total class loser envy bullshit. I've summed it up here:
Meet Mr. Atlas as he is about to Shrug
As the working poor are the greatest victims of our fascist system of governance, you disgrace the symbol of V that is your avatar. Please fuck off with the Randian bullshit. These entitled fucks wouldn't last 5 minutes in a true free market of anarchy.
Anarchy is the cry of those unable to manage a business, a creation, or originality. Enjoy being assfucked by the very people you proclaim to defend when the shit hits the fan. I'll watch but won't help you as after all, I am a selfish bastard. (Videos of NihilstZero being assfucked by his poor friends will be available in the lobby for $4.99 per copy).
Anarchy is the core of creativity. Order is its antithesis.
Evolution applies regardless: its fuzzy logic encoded right into nature takes care of the blight when it arises, unless there's all this nasty statist, fascist 'order' to keep nature at bay a little bit longer.
Then it wipes out a lot more than just the blight but it IS coming. Always does.
You can fool a lot of people but you can't fool nature for a second.
To create is to bring order out of chaos.
Therefore, you are insane, Q.E.D.
no, to create is to bring chaos into life so life may flourish in it. Order is not creativity by any measure. You are an idiot, Q.E.D.
What do you know about managing a business???
If you have to start from the bottom, the first hurdle is getting financing in a world where only the connected get any money.
The next hurdle is surviving bureaucracy and the nosying of the state when you're not an "important person".
The hurdle after that is being outcompeted by a well connected asshole who got all the licenses in record time, got all the money from his daddy's buddies, got all his products out in the stores of some other of his daddy's buddies and needs not worry about the state poking around in his company.
The rich are not rich because they're good at managing businesses, the rich are rich because they were born so or their parents were prescient and wealthy enough to get them to go to the same exclusive schools as the sons of the rich.
Their continued wealth does not come from superior skills, it comes from cronyism and the subservience of the authorities to their interests.
No real owner of a small business who has started from below with no support from rich friends would ever agree with your statement that the rich are good at managing businesses.
The working poor to which you refer, is this perhaps the chick making a $29K salary but after fed and state aid ending up with more discetionary spending than the family of four making $69K? Because if that's who you're referring to, then maybe you should go fuck yourself with the class envy bullshit, grow a pair and become a real man, nancy boy.
you and john above are clearly some tough dudes. ass fucking; self fucking. glad we're separated by fake names and cyberspace, rather than in some bar or street. whew!!
Jeffy, any time you want a shot at the title, you just let me know.
curd-munching douchenozzle
Go fuck yourself cockknocker.
I love fuckers like you and the other assclowns, big tough guys claiming you're gonna "hang 'em high" when the shit hits the fan. You figure you'll be safer in numbers. But the reality is when the shit hits the fan (and it will), losers like you will wish you knew how to operate a firearm, instead of simply spelling out "AR-15". It's going to be a comedy act son.
You had best think about making Rocket Propelled Grenades for yourself. I am teaching the Homeless people how to blow shit up. (Even a small Bomb between a Building and a Natural Gas Meter will ensure a Building's destruction from fire.)
It is NOT ILLEGAL TO TEACH. I was a damned good Physics Teacher awhile back. I can teach anybody.
I will have an army. I treat them with dignity and respect...that which is lacking from everyone else that they encounter. They tend to become LOYAL when that is done.
When you can make Bombs then who needs a gun? (Besides they are cheaper and have a higher Kill Ratio per unit expense.)
Here is a simple one for your arsenal....without the Rocket Delivery Design. . I like Gated Communities as there is a chokepoint at the entrance. That is a "captive audience". Rockets fly over walls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH6GpXAXmx8
Instructions for Rocket Engine Manufacture is on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Candy%20Rocket%20Engines&sm=3
Here is a fun one with an extended Burn Time...High Impulse and Extended Range.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE-JUXNcvxk
Fight Club is quite real...bitch.
so go and autofellate you spineless wonder...
Nice
Teachers teach because they lack the ability to do......
"I am teaching the Homeless people how to blow shit up.......I like Gated Communities as there is a chokepoint at the entrance........Rockets fly over walls"
There is so much bullshit here one cannot even begin to respond. But if you can find my compound (sorry, I don't do the gated community thing), please indulge me with your Nerf rocket attack. That is, if you can find it.
Until then, continue to pleasure yourself and your other ZH buddies in your circle jerk.
large packs are easy to target. Moving alone works much better. And/or being a minion-stand-in, so you appear as one of the worker-bees when in fact you're an invasive wasp in the hive, just wearing the right camouflage scent & markings.
That is the beauty of Fight Club, MBD. We are already all Lone Wolves and continuously strike.
The education about tactics gives us the power.
Small groups attack rapidly and just as rapidly disperse back into infiltrating the society.
It is classic Guerilla Warfare, asymmetrical, and quite affective at achieving the objective.
Civil War is brewing.
single filer with $29k income falls in 15% tax bracket...~$2500 in taxes = keep $26500-FICA
family of 4 with $69k income fall in 15% tax bracket if married filing jointly...~$3300 in taxes = keep $65700-FICA
both of them pay minimal in taxes....
Anyone who links to Pamela Geller on his shitty blog and references Ayn Rand ceaselessly is not only obtuse and churlish but belligerently so.
Disagree. If it were the case, the non-criminals would want to be in the elite criminal class, moving on up in the gang from sub-minion status.
I'm not seeing it. I'm seeing disgust & a wish to destroy a cancer infecting the larger body that is the species. It's been tagged as a foreign invader, it's only a matter of deploying the immune response.
"This is class envy bullshit."
Looks to me like the one of the whining class is bitching about the other whining class.
There are only two ways to make money. Work for it or steal it. This is especially true if you inherit
or "marry" money.
I too kind of agree with the CEO, with qualifications. I grew up working at age 14 to help the family make ends meet. Worked thru HS and college and finally gave up school to work 60-70 hours a week,
I like what I do and am ok financially. However I really got frosted when my family insurance went up 86% in December -to subsidize others.
What am I, chopped liver?
I pay my income taxes state and federal -no small dollar amount (probably small for the CEO if he has not hired the smartest tax guys and gals)
We have several problems. First we enable our fellow citizens with somewhat ez to get "entitlements" . Its kind of like enabling your kids by giving then too big an allowance where they do not have to get out and work-you need to teach them what life is about and that imo is if you work smarter and harder you get ahead and can really earn some of the "entrapments" of life.
The situation has changed--we have automated and outsourced our way into the situation where there are not enough jobs. We have given cost of living increases and minimum wage increases with tremendous expected benefit packages to the point we are no longer competitive with the rest of the world. Like it or not, its reality. How do we think Toyota got into selling cars here in the 70's and opened the door for them.
If we give a min wage increase again I predict more outsourcing and more automation. We need to fix the root cause of the problems, notthrow band aids over the problems to hide the problems.
And we do not have a chance of fixing problems if we fail to discuss and understand the problems. We have also become too politically correct. And aggressive rather than working with each other to understand and fix problems.
Along these lines--has 10-20 trillion of printing fixed any banks problems-or just kicked the can down the road?
Nope--we have to open up the can of worms and fix the underlying problems--it would be tough but we go nowhere but backwards unless we do it the hard way.
We used to call people who got things done "elder statesmen" now our pols create divisive problems as their main skill set--or look and act like lemmings. Where are the superstars.
I'd say do not point the blame at the poor slobs who are on the dole or employed at some shitty over paid .gov job. Yeah they suck, I despise them too but they are a symptom not a cause. The cause is central banks, their controllers and the politicians they own. Recognize the destruction of the western economies/civilization is a controlled demolition. It is not failing because we have a bunch of fat welfare queens yakking on obama phones or 100k/yr bus drivers in Detroit.
The people that "own" the cause of the eventual meltdown are the asshole architects that created the world where Atlas can shrug all day long and nobody will give a shit because Atlas has been naked shorted into the fuckin ground.
"ah they suck, I despise them too but they are a symptom not a cause. The cause is central banks, their controllers and the politicians they own. Recognize the destruction of the western economies/civilization is a controlled demolition. It is not failing because we have a bunch of fat welfare queens yakking on obama phones or 100k/yr bus drivers in Detroit."
Wrong.
The "cause" is perpetual growth on a finite planet. Doesn't matter what ideology is in place, how "correct-thinking" the masses are, as long as the track is that of perpetual growth then the outcome will ALWAYS be that the wall is hit. This ain't rocket science, and it sure as hell ain't political science.
Again, there is ZERO logic in the notion that those that rule by status quo are wanting to disrupt their positions of power by destroying that which provides them their pedestals. I can not pretend to KNOW what their motives are, but given that growth was always going to end and that the world's economic systems are dependent upon growth I can imagine that they MIGHT be managing what is a certain crash in such a fashion that folks who are paying attention can brace themselves: I got that impression years ago and am thankful that I still have time to continue to prepare for the final switch-off.
Atlas never got the memo about Mother Nature being last to bat.
Ascribing motives to TPTB is one of the big issues seen on ZH everyday. I am convinced TPTB are not simply greedy psychopaths. They are greedy and psychopathic but that is not what enables such unity within their ranks A greedy psychopath will throw grandma under the bus if he feels heat but yet we rarely see politicians or CEOs throwing each other under the bus. And if occasionally they do sacrifice a fellow traveler, it is always all of them against one of them.
I think TPTB are a bunch of religious nutjobs who see themselves as pursuers of truth. Unfortunately for us the truth they pursue is a lie.
all insurance has always been a ponzi designed to pay out from funds others paid in, leaving excess as profit for the insurance company.
Insurance has no other purpose.
If you want health CARE you don't use health insurance. If that means switching nation of citizenship, that's what it means.
[quote]Where are the superstars.{sic}[/quote]
Let's ask New Orleans where their govt heroes got off to...
Ray Nagin, former mayor of New Orleans convicted of 20 out of 21 counts of munny laundering, graft, corruption, fraud...
You do realize there's actual documentation showing actual stealing and actual fraud, e.g. the Linda Green situation, the Iran-sanction-busting by HSBC & money-laundering for the Sinaloa Cartel, Bank of America robbing homes for which there is no mortgage as a "foreclosure", etc.
None of this is theory, it's very well documented.
Do you seriously expect me to believe you NEVER knew that?
The poor are frequently in TWO categories only:
#1 robbery victims of the very-well documented criminal elite
#2 useless multigenerational poor, have almost no hope of ever being better since the last 3 or more generations never were in their family
I did not watch the video, but I do see alot of Lone Star card (SNAP) users driving vehicles newer than mine....
I drove through a HUD neighborhood last weekend and saw a late chevy 1500 crew cab with after market rims sitting in a drivway with a fresh wax job.
I don't even have time or money to wash my own 6 month old truck and this dude's was shining!
I always told people to watch the cars that drove up at quiting time to clean the building.
They'll give any asshat a car loan nowadays.
The biggest welfare queen on the planet is Jamie Fucking Dimon, even though he rolls around in a Bentley.
Exactly, how many of his customers have a direct line to the money printing machine?
FWIW, I think Wal Mart owners might even have Dimon beat.
Wealth and respect should not go hand in hand, and characters such as these define why that distinction should be made.
ACP - How dare you? That Escalade-driving welfare queen is a myth and a damned ugly piece of class warfare. I've never known anyone on welfare who drives an Escalade and unlike you, apparently, I actually know people who have been there. They drive old beaters, if they drive anything at all. Most have to use a cab to get home from the grocery store with their supplies for the month, if they're lucky enough to have more than they can carry in both arms and use the bus. The lucky ones live in crummy government housing and if you were to go into their homes you would see that many of them have nothing. They sleep on old mattresses on the floor. Their children are in rags and while not literally starving don't get enough to eat and so are hungry much of the time. The children of a relative of my son-in-law's asked him for food as a birthday present. Sometimes they run out of toilet paper before the end of the month and have to steal it from a gas station restroom or other public restroom. That's such a common source of loss to these places that they have taken to locking the stuff down. Haven't you ever wondered why? If you know someone on welfare driving around in an Escalade then they are selling dope or committing fraud or both and you should turn them in.
kids get fed at school, (Free I might add) so don't play that 'kids go hungry bullshit.
Except for the ones that can't pay.
I wrote that they don't get enough to eat, not that they are never fed. I'm sure you grasp the difference. If you don't, try serving up a box of mac and cheese for dinner (and only that) and splitting it between yourself and 3 children.
>> kids get fed at school,
A child gets one meal a day and you have a snotty, resentful attitude? How many days do you only eat one meal? Anybody who doesn't cut a kid some slack is a real shitbag in my book.
Don't worry Greatbeard the school districts around here are extending their meal plans for breakfast, and dinner too. And they're allowing the parents to dine with the chillrens so they don't feel left out. Also extending meal times during the summer as well.
That's funny, I actually have kids in school and the food is not free. There's not much choice though cause the dairy industry has got that cash stream all locked up. Still ingraining the idea that that shit is actually good for you.
The banks and the fed steal tens of billions and reduce the value of whatever money you have left in your pocket after taxes, but you can get a lot of people to stop thinking about that and to be consumed with the notion that 50 cents of their tax jack went to pay for some kid's lunch.
They're not as troubles about the 100 bucks or so used to kill a lot of civilians overseas, however.
That fuckin' student might be a nigger!
just a thought...he WAS talking about the middele class, maybe more than a few -unless you truly believe the middle class future is secure lol
"welfare queens rolling around in their escalades"
System is rigged to benefit the wealthy and the poor (to keep them from revolting, aka "rioting").
Elite don't fear the middle class, they won't revolt. But the poor will, 10 times quicker than the complacent sheepish middle class.
It's divide by zero really. Complacent sheepish middle class won't ever revolt.
How can they say they'll mount a revolution and "roll the guiliotines" if they won't even do a news-worthy store-burning riot?
That's why the middle class is being looted. They won't ever revolt, even if they lose everything. And they will eventually.
And those welfare queens and gang bangers will still be driving their Escalades, flashing the best weapons, heavy gold chains, and other trappings of gaming the system.
Joe talking about the good ole American system of Capitalism… lol
Round these lying pathetic vile evil mthfkers up!
They are guilty of the Molestation of the Middle Class!
Yeah, in Christ's words, that sucker will have to get down on his knees. Suspect he'd rather go with the devil - a perspective I would endorse.
The thing about this vid I find most disturbing isn't the man's words - I might have experienced similar wisdom at a dinner table or the bar. Its the fact that he is on TV, he's not being overheard in hushed tones, he's spewing this idiocy with a GigaWatt megaphone. To publicly shout such inflammatory rhetoric is stupid to the point of suicidal. I pray he reaps what he sows.
YEEAAAAHHH he won't... Life will continue on it's peachy-keen path for him & he'll go to his dying day why a candy bar is n't a nickel either ...
Which is why so many want to believe in perfect justice hereafter.
here now, he's no Houdini
here now, he's no Houdini
The media is pushing class warfare. Trot out people with relative fringe concepts and then throw them to the public as red meat to enrage the masses. A lot of these guys floating through these high paid positions are just as isolated in their points of view as those on the bottom begging for more bennies. Sometimes I think people would rather fight than work. And now that we have Obamacare, I don't have to do either! I'm free, I'm free!
Yeah Bud those whining sons of bitches in America need to suck it up and go to China and India where the American Corporations "are".
Fixed it!
America needs an Exterminator!
Start at the Federal Reserve.
The system has been rigged!
America needs an Exterminator!
Start at the Federal Reserve.
The system has been rigged!
He's absolutely right, in a way. The poor in this country have a lot of safety nets out for them. If they take them or not, it's all there. Being poor in this country is way better than the rest of the world.
He's defending capitalism (as they say in the video). There is nothing wrong with that and what he says tends to be true. He's just a rich guy. He's not an elected leader or anything else of real consequence. He is an American. He can say whatever he wants.
By all means, go on and express your emotions by damning him while ignoring the real problem. Yeah, the problem isn't rich guys. The problem is regular guys like all of you. What are you doing to make things better besides bitching on ZH? Are you running for office so you can be the one in office introducing bills to correct our problems and voting intelligently for or against? You aren't, are you.
Bitch and down arrow away.
You're a cunt. I've dome more than you'll ever do bitch. So take Dimon's dick out of your mouth and piss up a rope
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz98cNH5bJ4
January Chinese Gold Demand All-Time Record, 247 Tons
http://www.ingoldwetrust.ch/january-chinese-gold-demand-all-time-record-...
fuck you buddy
"the poor" are too busy tweeting and checking FB status to watch cnbc. afterall, if you're poor, why would you bother watching america's favorite ponzi channel?
From this day forth I am going to refer to my anus as my Konheim.
I need to wipe my Konheim.
I have shit stuck to the hairs of my Konheim.
My Konheim itches.
That Konheim just raised the minimum wage.
I renamed mine Corzine years ago .........
My Konheim has anal leakage just like his mouth in the video.
I think you are really Konheim retentive
GT
What you just said? Put a frame around it!
Well they better not whine when they are being rounded up and lynched by angry mobs.
Amen brother, nobody better be fucking shedding tears on the way to the chamber.
You saw the poll, right? There are no angry lynch mobs - over 1/2 the population agrees that everything's cool and that they should stop whining.
Keep in mind it is a CNBC poll, their viewership and poll participants are not exactly the most kosher of the bunch if you know what I mean.
Take that poll on the street, I am sure it will be eye opening. Don't forget your suit of armor before you go out questioning.
Things appear to work for the average North American. The safety nets can still hold a few more and the money still buys stuff. The decline in the standard of living has been masked by equal rights (women now working) and food stamps/welfare. People still have much to loose by organizing (or just forming angry mobs) and taking out the trash. It won't be long before joe sixpack has no food in the pantry for his family but still has one or two guns which he hasn't sold or pawned. No police force or army in this world will be able put that "Jack" back in the box. You will be amazed how fast the clueless start making rational decisions when their basic survival hinges on making right decisions. Those who remain clueless will quickly become food for other species.
For now the average person may only care about the outcome of the TV show Survival Island or some other such nonsense. Stay tuned .... a big change in programs is coming soon.
Does one even believe any "poll" these days?
North Koreans all love the Dear Leader
If this poll was of business news watchers, then expect no less. People making their living from investing KNOW that they need to keep the masses a'workin. The illusion of an economy must be kept alive if these skimmers and shakers are going to keep tapping off of the money train. But fear not, THEY would never take a job for $35k/yr. Well shit, I guess they are smarter than me....but for how long?
What, you gonna hate on capitalism? Capitalism fucking works. If you get rich by being a crony, you're an ass. If you get screwed by taxes as middle-class, you should be mad. If you're poor, well, it's mainly your own fault and you still have a better life than people in regular poor countries.
So why the f*ck would it be wrong what this guy says?
Fucking commies.
Capitalism works?!? Since 1913 right? /sarc
I know cronyism works.
I think he meant competition works. So, people with low skill levels can't expect to compete at $35K/year with Chinese or Indian people with equally low skill levels. Its labor supply vs demand. That is completely true. Evolution is not possible without competition. Protected markets (think GM, Ford etc in the 1970s and 80s) stagnated vis a vis the Japanese and in the 90s and 2000, these companies ate our lunch. Companies in S. Korea are now pressuring them in price and quality. And it didn't help our inefficient auto industriy that they built their factories in right to work states like South Carolina, while protected union work forces in Detroit continued to produce inferior products.
Cartels are anti-competive and rely on onerous laws and regulation passed by the fundamentally anticompetitive government for their advantage. The prim example is the FED cartel and its interest rate and money creation monopoly.
Compete or stagnate. Move or get fat. Reducing entropy takes work and energy. All true, all immutible.
Funny. The whole of Japanese industry is a cartel. Japanese socialism has been running rings around American capitalism for 3 decades.
This guy enjoys the socialist protection of the government, but makes out like he is some kind of capitalist. If he was rich in India or China or Mexico, his kids would be under constant threat of kidnapping, he would need to pay all kinds of political bribes to avoid unexpected tax audits or prosecutions. Maybe HE should move to India or China and see what it is like to be rich there.
Yes when I say capitalism I refer to actual laissez-faire free markets, not cronyism.
Comparing what we have to capitalism is like comparing Chinese dogfood to grass fed Angus. Yes its all meat but what the fuck!
I'm Dutch, compared to my country the US still has a relatively free market, but I reckon it also highly depends on what sector you're in.
I see no reason to believe this guy did not earn his money in a competitive market by hard work and good ideas.
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Also about the 'getting rich in China' comment. In China you get rich by being friends with the Party, somebody threatens to take your kids? That's cool, just send them to a 're-education' camp and you'll never see them again.
Only a retard would claim that China's economy is more free than that of the US. Not that the US doesn't have major cronyism, but dear god don't dare to compare it to fucking China.
This -- what we have today -- isn't capitalism. It's not even in the same zip code as capitalism.
Of course it's Capitalism. Get past the patriotic mythology. This how Capitalism matures, into an oligarchy of monopolies for the already wealthy and powerful. That's how our political system is set up...to preserve the power and wealth hierarchy as strongly as possible.
On the other hand, the oligarchs have cleverly combined free markets and capitalism to mean one and the same, but they are not. True freedom does not require Capitalists and likely cannot with them. I know this flies in the face of the typical Tea Party concepts of truth justice and the 'Mercan way as bought by the Koch brothers, but it is true.
George, it is how EVERY system "matures". Its called corruption. Some system types will last longer than others but they are all fucked because inevitably we will put some asshole(s) in charge that will fuck it all up. Never fails. I personally think true capitalism is less prone to corruption than socialism as socialism's primary concept is collective control and ownership, which is the tipping point for all systems. That critical mass that allows corruption to infiltrate every aspect of a governance and economy.
Finally, someone gets it. What America has ABSOLUTELY IS CAPITALISM. Capitalism is a system to preserve and extend capital. PERIOD. Capitalism is not free markets, it is not democracy. Free markets are antithetical to true capitalism. Free markets destroy almost as much capital as they create. Creative destruction is NOT capitalism.
Nice strawman you f****** douchebag. the system has nothing to do with capitalism the system we have right now could not exist without government being a player.
capitalism relies totally on the rule of law. it should be obvious to anyone who's still f****** breathing that the rule of law is dead in this country. in fact the cronyism is the exact thing that has killed capitalism.
you're an idiot. If these jackasses didn't have government force on their side they'd be bankrupt tomorrow. they're not capitalist they don't even do a good imitation. genuine capitalism scares them shitless.
you stupid f****** socialist crumb cake.
Let me bring my reply down to the level you will understand.
Why don't you read some fucking history you cocksucking cunt?
LOL, cronyism has killed capitalism. Good one. Cronyism certainly kills free markets, which is great for the owners of capital. Nothing threatens capital more than free markets. If you have millions invested in legacy blue chip dinosaur companies, the last thing you want is the free market producing some lean efficient competitor and destroying your investment. No, capitalists want nice fat risk-free returns. Preserve and extend capital, by any means. Bribe lawmakers, control the message by owning the information channels, whatever it takes to prevent free markets from destroying invested capital before you get a return. THAT is capitalism you idiot.
What you are talking about is the mafia, not capitalism.
Capitalism is the USE of capital NOT the preservation of everyone's into one pile held by one master thief or overlord. What America has is the mafia & it's both suicidal AND illegal.
Read some history. Your use of the word capitalism is fantasy. An invention to pull the wool over your eyes. The goals of capitalism are to preserve and extend capital above all else. Everything else is secondary.
I use THE only definition of capitalism. What you're talking about never has been capitalism by name or historical recorded action.
The GOALS of capitalism are to USE CAPITAL. Preservation & extending are never ever part of capitalism.
Capitalism IS the final mature state, it doesn't change into something else.
Humans, on the other hand, don't want capitalism, they want tribalism. It's in the genome of every primate.
Capitalism is feudalism based on capital, not land. To the extent people are free to create capital, capitalism is beneficial. When the ability to create capital is totally sequestered among a few, capitalism is reduced to de facto feudalism.
Where does Capitalism function currently? All I'm seeing in most countries are Governments giving money they got via taxes, levies and fines to Corporations that ran themselves into the ground. Algos trading the news millions of time a second to send most stocks to levels that bear no relation to a Corporations value. Debt has replaced Capital as the driver of business now - the more debt you have, the more you can do, and when things get bad, you just declare bankruptcy and accept no responsibility for what you've done, leaving investors high and dry.
Doesn't sound like Capitalism to me.
Besides - it's all relative. Just because you're richer than someone in Bangladesh, that DOESN'T mean you're rich where you live. Sure, you can say to someone "Go live in Bangladesh then!", but they'd just be poor there too.
It's all good and well for someone who already has millions or billions to say "Oh stop crying you fucking lazy pricks! Pick up a sledgehammer and crack some rocks!" when 30 or 40 years ago (and longer for wealth passed down) it was EASY to leverage themselves to the hilt and make money, because economic expansion was occurring with no end in sight. Right now, we've seen that there is an end to it, and now we're contracting, because on an economy based on consumption, you can't just keep consuming.
I'd like to think that people making these calls would walk a mile in another mans shoes first, but that would mean backing up their talk with actions, and that never happens.
Capitalism functions in the same places as freedom does...no where on earth. Tyranny is the end game of every nation state. They simply try to figure out the fastest way there. America has moved relatively slowly compared to many others, primarily because we were based on freedom. That always takes time to stamp out, but we are just abut there now.
Solution's right in front of you: no more nation-states. Humanity did well without them.
Exactly. They can jolly well hike their lazy asses to to China. Or Argentina.
I think the part where he's lying, that's the first part to be mad about.
The second part is where no one is ever expected to leave their country because a few invaders took it over & made everyone else poor with well-documented theft & thuggery.
The general rule of approach is to execute the overlords as fast as possible, which of course, is both proper & inevitable.
For some explanation see Joe Bageant's work, including Deer Hunting With Jesus.
America's white underclass is every bit as brainwashed by their political handlers as inner city blacks are by theirs. In the case of the former, when you are too ignorant to know how rigged the system is against your interests, its easy to be sold the idea that your shitty life is your own damned fault and if you just put another 10 hours a week at the walmart and follow the rules, you too will be on your way to becoming one of the elite.
That was an excellent book...
What was that line?
Ha! Brilliant Flak, just brilliant.