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It Doesn’t Take Much For People To Start Behaving Like Crazed Lunatics

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

If an ice storm can cause this much panic in our major cities, what will a real crisis look like?  The biggest news story in the United States right now is the "historic ice storm" that is hammering the South.  Travel will be a nightmare, schools and businesses will be closed, and hundreds of thousands of people will lose power.  In fact, it is being projected that some people could be without power for up to a week.  But at the end of the day, the truth is that this ice storm is just an inconvenience.

Yes, the lives of millions of Americans will be disrupted for a few days, but soon the ice will melt and life will be back to normal.  Unfortunately, it doesn't take much for people to start behaving like crazed lunatics.  As you will see below, the winter weather is causing average Americans to ransack grocery stores, fight over food items and even pull guns on one another.  If this is how people will behave during a temporary weather emergency, how will they behave when we are facing a real disaster?

This is a perfect example that shows why it is wise to always have emergency food supplies on hand.  According to CNN, all that is left on the shelves of some grocery stores in Atlanta is "corn and asparagus"...

As the skies turned heavy, Atlantans cleaned stores out of loaves of bread, gallons of milk, bundles of firewood and cans of beans and beer. In some stores, all that was left were the apparently less-popular corn and asparagus.

And according to an Infowars report, some people down in Atlanta were actually getting into fights over basic essentials such as milk and bread...

Atlanta residents ransacked neighborhood grocery stores in frantic preparation for their second major snowstorm of the year, waging fights over food items and leaving destruction and empty shelves in their wake, a stunning precursor to what will ensue once a major crisis impacts the U.S.


After three inches of snow shut the city down two weeks ago, causing major havoc and leaving miles of cars stranded on immobile roadways, the residents of Atlanta took heed and shopped early.


According to people who Tweeted photos of barren store shelves, residents went crazy over essentials like milk, bread, water and eggs, and in some cases “people were fighting. Yes fighting,” alleges one user.

The photo that I have shared below was posted to Twitter by Kris Muir.  It shows what the bread aisle at a Kroger in the Atlanta area looked like as the storm approached...

Bread aisle of a Kroger in the Atlanta area

So what would happen if this was an extended crisis and you had not stored up any emergency supplies for your own family?

That is something to think about.

And just like during the last major winter storm in the South, there are reports of hundreds of vehicles being abandoned on the side of the road in major cities.  For example, just check out what has been happening in Raleigh, North Carolina...

"I live and work in downtown. I was able to get from my office back home. My wife works in Morrisville, about 25 minutes away. She left the office at 12 p.m. and is still on the road. I am coaching her home with Google Maps. It appears that, from WRAL TV, the ramp from Wade Avenue to 440 is blocked by abandoned cars. That is a HUGE ramp (downtown Raleigh to highway)."

We are also seeing quite a few reports of "snow rage" as this cold, snowy winter drags on.  In fact, on Sunday someone actually pulled out a shotgun and threatened to shoot a snow plow driver on Long Island...

As CBS 2’s Carolyn Gusoff reported Tuesday, people have found themselves fed up with the hassle of plowing, shoveling and salting. In fact, they have been pushed to the edge, to the point where they have been taking out their frustrations on plow drivers.


Eric Ramirez, a snow plow driver on Long Island, said an irate man went so far as to rack a shotgun Sunday and threaten to shoot him because he was piling snow in front of the man’s Manorhaven home.

And a similar incident involving a pistol was recently reported in Union Township...

The incident happened Monday afternoon along Underwood Street in Union Township.


Police say Eckert became angry when the self-employed driver, John Abraham, accidentally pushed some snow into his yard while cleaning a neighbor’s driveway.


“I went like this to put it in park and there was a gun right here in my face,” Abraham said.


Eckert is then accused of taking a .22-calibur pistol out of his coat, and pressing it against Abraham’s cheek, telling him to remove the snow.

As I write about so frequently, the thin veneer of civilization that we all take for granted is starting to disappear.  A whole host of surveys and opinion polls have shown that Americans are angrier and more frustrated than ever.  Our society has become a ticking time bomb, and it isn't going to take much for it to explode.

When it does explode, most people are going to be depending on the government or someone else to take care of them.  The following is a brief excerpt from a recent article by Mac Slavo...

Despite warnings from FEMA, as well as the prevalence of popular preparedness TV shows, Americans still don’t seem to understand how susceptible we are to a complete destabilization of life as we know it. It boggles the mind that most people seem to think that when disasters strikes they’ll be able to depend on someone else to provide them with assistance.

Fortunately, at least a few people seem to be learning some lessons about the importance of being prepared from these winter storms...

"Last time I was totally unprepared, I was completely blindsided," said Lisa Nadir, of Acworth, who sat in traffic for 13 hours and then spent the night in her car when the storm hit Jan. 28. "I'm going to be prepared from now on for the rest of my life."

What about you?

Are you prepared?

We live at a time when our world is becoming increasingly unstable, and it doesn't take much to imagine a bunch of scenarios in which this nation would be facing a major crisis for an extended period of time...

-A major eruption of Mt. Rainier or the Yellowstone supervolcano

-The "Big One" hits California

-A massive earthquake along the New Madrid fault line

-A highly infectious pandemic that kills tens of millions of Americans

-Hackers bring down the Internet or crash the banking system

-A massive tsunami hits either the east coast or the west coast destroying numerous major cities

-A major war erupts in the Middle East and the United States gets involved

-A crisis involving North Korea sparks a major war in Asia

-A terror attack that specifically targets our power grid

-A terror attack involving a weapon of mass destruction in one of our major cities

-A terror attack or a major natural disaster causes one or more nuclear facilities in the heart of the United States to experience a "Fukushima-like crisis"

-A massive EMP blast that fries our electrical grid and our communications systems

-Last but certainly not least, a massive economic collapse that fundamentally changes life in America on a permanent basis

So what do you think?


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Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:03 | 4434629 salvadordaly
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I'm good for a few month's. Long enough to wait all around me out. Lead to protect it to boot!

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:05 | 4434635 The Gooch
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Got neighbors?

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:07 | 4434648 Soul Glow
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Neighbors can be assets to have, if they are good people, anyway.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:14 | 4434669 CH1
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The media lives on freak-outs.

Oh no! It's snowing in February!!!


Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:16 | 4434672 gmrpeabody
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I'll take that asparagus.., thank you.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:21 | 4434689 Doubleguns
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"If this is how people will behave during a temporary weather emergency, how will they behave when we are facing a real disaster?"


If they show up like this around my house they will be stacked like cordwood with a serious case of lead poisoning. Oh yea, I'll take some of that asparagus too!!

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:39 | 4434786 jbvtme
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"engineered" weather. just a trial run.  katrina, wtc, sandy hook, boston marathon same.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:12 | 4434926 Shrapnel
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I'm with you(as are many here I suspect) on 9/11, Sandy Hoax and the Boston Marathon "Bombing". All are pretty blatant to say the least.

I haven't looked much into Katrina, besides the gun confiscations. But I don't doubt for a millisecond that weather modification is a reality(what was that USAF report called again...oh yeah, "Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025"). Most people wouldn't believe what goes on in the black world, SAPs, USAPs etc - even if they had the documents right in front of them.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:31 | 4435166 TruthInSunshine
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I'm just going to throw this out there, and feel free to agree or not: Americans, with exceedingly few exceptions, and as a collective nation, are the biggest, most mentally disturbed pussies to have ever walked the earth.

I'm speaking particularly of the Baby Boom, Gen X, Gen Y and Millennials - the preceding generations, and especially the Great Depression and WWII generations, not so much.

We've gotten to the point where Idiocracy is in full bloom, AMD a majority of the population needs its "binky" from the "benevolent" government.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:37 | 4435206 Abi Normal
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Call me a pussy to my face and see how much of a pussy I am, panty waist!!!

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:44 | 4435216 TruthInSunshine
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1st, if your reading comprehension skills were even moderately decent, you would have been able to discern my reference to the collective versus any particular individual.

2nd, you don't know me, and I don't know you, so it's a complete waste of time and energy in an exercise of pure speculation to "internet flex" on someone, tough guy.

3rd, 'Murica!!!

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:47 | 4435231 Abi Normal
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LOL, you fucking libertarians are as bad as the liberals, you think you know everything, fuck you, and your pussy friend parroting his underwear, below!

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:50 | 4435240 TruthInSunshine
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Good comeback.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:54 | 4435250 Abi Normal
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No worries, we are on the same side of this mess!  I do think to generalize is a mistake, that was my point.  Here is something to cheer:

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:51 | 4435407 Abi Normal
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Well, I guess we're not on the same side after all, good luck with that, I guess when the shooting starts (seems that way to me, as each side thinks they are right, it will come to a head someday, IMO)), we'll be enemies after all.  Oh well, if that is the way you want it, so be it.  Tata for now fantasylanders!  The shit is going to be real thick, won't it.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:55 | 4435558 James_Cole
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According to CNN, all that is left on the shelves of some grocery stores in Atlanta is "corn and asparagus"...

Hey what's wrong with asparagus??

This 'weather' is quite something. Looking at UK, Aus, Phillipines, California, Atlanta etc. Reminds me of that paper the Pentagon did on AGW and how they gotta put in place a <police state> to keep the folks in line when shit gets cray. 

So when do them tanks hit the streets? 

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 05:16 | 4435741 StychoKiller
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Ever eaten canned asparagus?

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 08:37 | 4435957 Abi Normal
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I dunno, but look to Connecticut and NY for the possible first shots heard around the world, yet again. Sad thing is, we are all so programmed to eat each other for lunch, that we argue amongst ourselves so much, we cant see the forrest for the trees.  That would make them winning...and that ain't good, fuck tptb for that, and just about everything else.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 05:16 | 4435742 ebworthen
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Good gracious I hate pissing matches, everyone's legs get wet and you have to do more laundry.

The bigger point is that people can't take care of the basics anymore; no outhouse, no chickens, no home canning, no candles, etc.

Everyone must have something they can microwave and electricity or they will DIE, or so they believe.  Sitting on a razors edge, for sure.

"Can't we all just get along?"

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 08:32 | 4435949 Abi Normal
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I do too, my legs are pretty wet about now.  Some sanity at last...I can agree with what you just said.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:56 | 4435255 lickspitler
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Whats with all the underwear references dude ? Ok you're on ZH but what else are you up to. 

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:56 | 4435268 Abi Normal
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eh, one reference and your off to the races, lovely.  I am up to nothing tonight, snowed in, by the fire, how bout you?

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:11 | 4435300 merizobeach
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You're a piece of shit and a pussy, and everybody knows it.  Good job, loser.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:15 | 4435320 Abi Normal
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Ah, another mewling quim speaks from their nether my, the libertarian retreads are easily offended.  You must do something about that thin skin, LOL!!!

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:09 | 4435460 20834A
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Seems to me you took offense first, eh?

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:19 | 4435475 Abi Normal
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LOL, the prick called 90% of American's pussies, hell yes I took offence at such a dumb gotta problem with that? Spare me the standard reply and just nod your head up and down, as you probably don't have a problem with it.


Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:56 | 4435554 TruthInSunshine
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"... the prick called 90% of American's pussies.."

I actually said:

"Americans, with exceedingly few exceptions..."

Way more than 90%, 'scro.

I want you to keep posting. For shits & giggles.

You're trippin' on Team America, coming again to save the motherfuckin' day!

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:56 | 4435560 James_Cole
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Someone called Americans pussies... shit just got real on zh. 

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 08:46 | 4435935 Abi Normal
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So you must be a Euro-Dope trash sunshine, lol!!!!  Right End the Fed...I can agree with you there tho...and vote all the dumbass progs and rino's out of congress.  I would vote for a libertarian, if you could just open your eyes on world affairs.  Not saying we have to be world police, we should not, but I sure don't agree with you libs on Iran, or Russia, or China...and many others.  Just wait until Iran has the will see.  Read up on the 12th caliphate and the 13th imam, please, do us all a favor!

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:02 | 4435440 Abi Normal
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By the way, I can read very well, and comprehend it too, seems you can't do the same for your own writing.  Re-read you inane post, see if you can find where you went wrong.

You just lumped almost every American alive today into one big pile of shit, can you comprehend that?

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:11 | 4435459 Seize Mars
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LOL Please keep going. You're priceless.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:13 | 4435467 Abi Normal
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Oh really, and that makes you what?  A dumbass, a queer, or what?

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:58 | 4435559 Seize Mars
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LOL Excellent! Anyways I figured out where I know you from:

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 08:41 | 4435965 Abi Normal
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LOL, mandingo, you are so smart, here I will bend over again so you can kiss my ass as well.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 00:50 | 4438847 Seize Mars
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mandingo? Ok, man-o-chevitz!

What's all that about ass kissing? Does that involve the old reach-around?

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:46 | 4435222 lickspitler
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Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:54 | 4435256 Abi Normal
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Spoken like a true go girly man!

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:20 | 4435326 Abi Normal
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Oh, by the by, a downvote from the ZH morons, is really an upvote to me!  You pricks hate our country, blame everything on jews, and think the world is a safe place, with no bad live in a fantasy world.  Good luck with that line of thought.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:33 | 4435354 akak
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You pricks hate our country

I have yet to read any ZHer (aside from AnAnonymous, make me laugh) blame the USA for anything.  Now, the government on the other hand ....

But apparently you are too ignorant and/or stupid to know that blind obedience to corrupt leadership does not constitute patriotism.  More precisely, it is precisely the opposite.



Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:45 | 4435376 Abi Normal
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Then you are not just a dumb ass, but blind as well, I've read way too many comments here to read your tripe, and believe it, try it on someone else lol.  Get real asswipe, you are either a liar or a moron, most likely the latter.

Oh, if you think I support all of these communists in our Federal and local gov'ts, then you really are a moron, again you fucking libertarians think you know you think you can read minds...damn, I am truly amazed at your superiority...let me bend over so you can kiss my ass, punk.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 08:00 | 4435899 Hooter Shaker
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I know I'm late to the game but I wanted to make sure I got in on this.  You should develop your own app....You could call it iThug or something and load with a bunch of snappy, fat kid bully shit.  Maybe you could turn a buck, put it in a myRA account and then Uncle Sam can steal it...

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 08:26 | 4435942 Abi Normal
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MyRA....LOL, Ozero's confiscation plan, I don't think so...but since you're in on it Sonny Jim, isn't your mommy worried about you being in the basement all night?

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 09:11 | 4436005 Hooter Shaker
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Shhhh....She doesn't know I'm down here.  Since we're now talking about moms.....How did you survive the coathanger?

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 09:28 | 4436056 Abi Normal
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Cause I am quick and smart...too bad the best of you slimed down your mama's legs...a terrible waste you are!

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:49 | 4435397 DeusHedge
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Another example of the corruption of both sides.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:48 | 4435402 DeusHedge
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Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:57 | 4435430 Abi Normal
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How about all sides are corrupt, in every country, want to know why?  Shame, the lack of if, humility gone, greed everywhere, and power corrupts totally.  Most of all, a lack of God in the lives of many people.  

So laugh hard now, you will be puckering up soon enough.


Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:06 | 4435449 Abi Normal
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Any more of you butt lickers wanna piece of me?  Come and get it, just like I tell the libtards//

Molon Labe BITCHES!

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 03:26 | 4435634 akak
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Meth: It's (apparently) not just for breakfast anymore.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 03:35 | 4435645 El Vaquero
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Sounds like a healthy serving of scrambled meth topped with minced PCP and a sprig of LSD. 

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 05:19 | 4435746 StychoKiller
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Mmm, them's good eats!  :>D

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 09:01 | 4435989 Abi Normal
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You guys should know from experience eh?  You can fry your brain all you want, me, not so much.  I have struck a chord here, and to see you idiots squirm is well...priceless.

Come on can't you all get really pissed off at me, lmao!

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 08:29 | 4444588 merizobeach
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You don't have a brain to fry, or even balls to kick.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 05:41 | 4435765 PhilofOz
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Oh dear! There are US citizens, of which on ZH to my pleasant surprise there are many fine examples, good people, and then there are the likes of you... Amerikans! The type that call names and threaten anyone that does not think exactly like them. Maybe you were pissed when you wrote this "wanna piece of me" stuff and maybe, just maybe, you will realize in the morning what a dick you really made of yourself.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 09:02 | 4435973 Abi Normal
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No, I am quite sure all of you blitzing me are the assholes...everyone has an opinion, just like they have an asshole, yours seems to be quite big, I guess the big house was a fav place for you...did bubba teach you a lesson or something?  roflmao


hey, don't you have a few levers to pull, or is it just the one between your legs, if you have one?????? bwahahahahhah

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 04:57 | 4435722 -NaN-
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You just lumped everyone into one giant pile of shit. Thank you, there may be hope for you after all.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 09:01 | 4435994 Abi Normal
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Hope?  You fucking must mean FORWARD soviet, eh?  dingus

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 04:56 | 4435717 -NaN-
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any one that uses the term "panty waist" is a total pussy.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 08:31 | 4435943 Abi Normal
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LOL, what?  Nan, go find a manzier, I think your tits are hanging out...fuck you too!

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:48 | 4435241 Shrapnel
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I was born in '80 and aside from some immediate family members, I don't know a single person without their head hopelessly lodged up their ass. I cannot sway them no matter what I try to show them, they simply lack the capacity to open their minds and/or consider any evidence, no matter how obvious. Idiocracy indeed.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:50 | 4435548 RafterManFMJ
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This article has frightened me enough to buy the new 'Save My Dumb Ass' iPhone app.

You activate it and it sends out a continuous locator ping for rescue crews to find you, and if the phone's sensors record no movement for more than 6 hours it sends out a ping requesting body bags.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 11:08 | 4436352 msmith9962
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It also calls an ambulance and police if you have a boner for more than 4 hours.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 08:37 | 4435958 msmith9962
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I work with a couple guys that are grown men and holy crap are they whiners.  The coper is down and you think someone punched their mother.  The littlest things seem to be major speed bumps. 

I notice that the poeple that do the most for their kids have the shittiest ones.  I have some.  And I mean like getting them their breakfast instead of making them make it for themselfes and expand from there, cleaning their rooms, folding their laundry.  People used to have kids to do that shit for them and it has gone way out of control.

It pisses me off when I hear people say they want their kids to have everything they didnt have as a kid. I don't want that at all, I want them to learn to make opportunities for themselves and earn whatever they want.

People are making too many shitty people.  We have probably reached the tipping point in shitty whiny people.  Maybe that's our problem.


Fri, 02/14/2014 - 11:15 | 4436368 StackAttack
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I am a GenX'er and am extremely disappointed in what the previous generations have allowed to occur in this country. I work hard and productively to take care of myself and my family and know many Gen X and Gen Y folks who do the same.  There is idiocracy occurring in this country, but it is by no means limited to recent generations.  In fact, the older generations refuse to see the truth as much, if not more, than anyone.  The social security generations don't care enough about the burden they have placed on me and my generation to decline their SS checks or donate them back toward the national debt.  My generation has already realized that SS is not going to exist long before we are old enough to draw on it.  We know that the .gov cannot solve its own problems, let alone our problems.  That is why so many of us ignore politics.  We know that it doesn't matter which shitty party controls the executive or legislative branches and it hasn't mattered since at least Kennedy. 

We who support libertarian ideas in this country are many, are armed, and are productive people that add value to society.  We have tried to get our voices heard by supporting libertarian ideas, only to see our voices squelched by MSM/TPTB.  Many of us now don't know what else to do.  What is left?  There are those Gen X'ers and Gen Y'ers that are only aware of "something being wrong" but don't know what to do.  Those of us who are aware, more than subconciously, of all that is wrong, know that now there is nothing left, but to sit back and watch the shit show ensue. 

Personally, I think these newest generations have pretty optimistic view and a willingness to work hard, even though previous generations have left us with a steaming pile of shit of a country whose OLDER generations have gone full fucktard.  So, in summary, take that shit and cram it up your ass. 

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:01 | 4435132 WillyGroper
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I double dog dare the junkers to watch>>>radar>>>java radar loop next storm you see & you'll get a gander of HAARP in action.


Got screenshots of Sandy, tornados in AR & AL.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:01 | 4435127 IMACOINNUT
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nothing here on how the stranded people on Hwy 75 who were stranded for up to 27 hours were receiving food an drink from those living close to the hwy. saw many empty shelves down here in acworth but definitely no one fighting, seems to me the gun item in story was in new york. this was a flash icing problem, no one was prepared for the flash ice.  plows couldn't get to the scenes due to ice and no we don't have chains or snow tires in georgia. lived in rhode island for many years and never saw ice anything like this.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:24 | 4435175 salvadordaly
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Don't let your dad get punched in the stomach for a can of aspargus soup!

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:23 | 4434697 kaiserhoff
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Always knew you were an odd duck, peabody.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:29 | 4434739 theliberalliberal
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yep,   eat lots of asparagus and piss on all trees close buy.  


no-one will dare come near

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:07 | 4434900 knukles
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Guys, heads on sticks keep your home comfy and safe.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:46 | 4435393 ThroxxOfVron
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Vlad Tepes knew how to keep the maurauders the fuck off his lawn!

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:30 | 4434744 NoDebt
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Why?  You think he eats it just because it makes his pee smell funny?  It's a very nutritous food.  You can even eat it raw, if you don't have the means to cook it.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:44 | 4434806 gmrpeabody
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Will be co-starring with the Steak Diane for tomorrow's dinner. Mrs. Peabody's request.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:34 | 4435024 NoDebt
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Don't report me to the food police, but asparagus with a little hollandaise sauce on top is one of my favorites.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:44 | 4434810 theliberalliberal
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like most veggies i would guess.  (if not all).

i do eat asparagus when its in my weekly box of random shit.  

admittedly its not on my regular shopping list but at least i know what not to go for straight away during a panic.

can come back later for the asparagus.......


Fri, 02/14/2014 - 03:20 | 4435633 buttmint
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Care if we arm wrestle for that last case of asparagus?

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 05:11 | 4435737 StychoKiller
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Betcha it was canned, just saying.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:31 | 4434743 Blankenstein
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The Weather Channel jumped the shark a few years ago after it was bought by NBC.  It is idiocracy in action.  Against my better judgement I flipped over there today and the two announcers were trying to talk in Boston accents.  So failing attempts at humor along with scare tactics designed (no doubt unsuccessful) to make DirecTV subscribers drop their service so they can get TWC and just general buffoonery have made it the TLC of weather.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:40 | 4434781 disabledvet
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one of television histories most remembered moments:

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:49 | 4435395 Tall Tom
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 The teletype NEVER LIES.


Turning to the local scene...LOL.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:12 | 4434938 HardlyZero
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Yes, more to the point of this 'social experiment' called 'society wreck'.

Every year the cold weather will exert a 'stress test' on the northern states.  The more dismal their economy and living conditions, every Winter the reactions will get more pronounced.

Yes every year Winter occurs, but now every year the living conditions are grinding lower and now Winter is something to be feared Winter was feared millenia ago.

Even more recently in the old USSR the Winter was very bad because there were little energy to heat Vodka became the best choice in the cold.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:54 | 4434858 Andre
Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:07 | 4435454 HisNameIsRP
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My local Walmart on SNAP renewal day

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:15 | 4435159 20834A
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I raise chickens and grow an extensive garden, one neighbor raises goats, another does a garden and 40 head of cattle, another does chickens and bees, and yet another grows extensive acerage of corn and raises beef. All of us have at least a few fruit trees and ponds with fish. We hunt and have significant amounts of armaments. I have a pretty fair understanding of edible wild plants and herbal remedies. But most importantly, we've had the discussion about banding together with each other, because we all feel a deep unease.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:44 | 4435218 Silver Sativa
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I want to be a neighbor of yours!!

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:24 | 4435339 El Vaquero
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While my neighbors all know at least some gardening, most have fruit trees, and all know how to raise animals, I have not had the discussion with them.  I still need them to think I am sane;)  However, should SHTF, I feel confident that I could pull them through.  There is water where I am and there is enough land to sustain us all.  There is also plenty of fish and wild game right behind me, enough to pull the neighborhood through a full fall and winter, in fact. 


My family and most of my friends, OTOH, all know damned well something bad is going to happen.  Some figured it out without me constantly harping on it.  I have a suspicion that one friend is looking forward to it so that he can turn his vast arsenal towards the popos. 

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:54 | 4435413 ThroxxOfVron
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I'm the only person in the immediate 'hood with a garden.

Most of my Neighbors are obsessed with manicured lawns and half employ latinos to do it for them.

I've already glumly decided that with few exceptions I'll probably be faced with the choice of feeding the cats to these dumbfucks or feeding these dumbfucks to the cats when they finally get hungry enough to come 'round...



...I really like my cats...

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:04 | 4435442 El Vaquero
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I chat with my neighbors over the fence about our gardens.  When I first started, one of them was very happy that I was going to stick to heirloom instead of hybrid.  She's been gardening longer than I've been alive, and her husband put in a shed to store all of the canned goods she gets out of her garden.  I suspect that she and her husband are aware that somethin' ain't right. 


I'm getting itchy though.  It's another month before I can start planting the cool weather stuff, but I want to start NOW.  Instead, I've been taking time walking in the woods, paying attention to what's around.  It clears my head, gives me some mild exercise and it gives me a good gauge of what resources I have to work with. 

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:18 | 4435481 20834A
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El Vaq, we are kindred spirits.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 04:58 | 4435723 Gief Gold Plox
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I wonder. If you guys are anything like us, have you also had a word or two about how to best disable and control access to your community when TSHTF ?


Fri, 02/14/2014 - 03:28 | 4435639 buttmint
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....cats, rattlesnakes, dog, grasshoppers(90% of all bugs) all taste like chicken and are actually quite good.

Americans need to spend 6 months eating such fare in Asia. It'd qualm their uneasiness about trivial matters.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 03:40 | 4435647 El Vaquero
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Actually, if I had to compare rattlesnake with anything, it would not be chicken.  It would be fish.  But it tastes like rattlesnake, and I speak from experience.  "Tastes like chicken" is a catchall for "I don't know how the fuck to describe it to you" or "I've never tried it." 

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 06:39 | 4435793 StandardDeviant
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Way too many little bones, though.  Like eating a poorly filleted fish.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:37 | 4435207 Race Car Driver
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> Got neighbors?

Yeah ... like a large percent of the population they represent, they're all fucked in the head with drugs, alcohol and TeeVee. Good luck with trying to have relationships with these people.

And, beware of anyone purporting to be a public school teacher.

Seriously, only one or two in ten will be of any value knowing. And if you're looking for someone to rely on - the guy in the mirror is your only friend.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:40 | 4435532 theliberalliberal
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you can diss the TV all you want,  but drugs and alcohol?  watch it my friend!

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:09 | 4434656 Al Gorerhythm
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You're stocked. Do you have a cash register? There is opportunity here because the sheeple's prep strategy is to have enough gas to get to the store and clean it out whenever a SHTF event occurs, even a minor one.


Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:29 | 4434725 XitSam
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Be aware, some states have anti-gouging laws that prohibit selling of goods beyond a specified markup.  These laws should actually be considered anti-free market laws. 

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:25 | 4434994 akak
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Hard to believe that there are even two statists here on ZH who are so ignorant as to downvote you for your logical and well-justified comment on so-called "anti-gouging" laws, which are indeed coercive and anti-free-market.

I am guessing that GoinNowhere and Diablo have been lurking in this thread.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:50 | 4435399 Flakmeister
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Fair enough Akak....

But I don't ever again want to hear you bitch about the price of natural gas in Alaska...

Is that not reasonable?

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 02:00 | 4435571 Al Gorerhythm
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I feel his comlaints are legitimate knowing that the price of gas is not set by market based supply and demand forces, but merely fiat based, naked and fraudlent shadow (not actual) suppliers. Same as the gold and silver shorts.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 02:23 | 4435598 Flakmeister
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Aren't I allowed to sell whatever I produce at the price that I demand? Is there any law in Alaska granting a de facto monopoly status or is it that classic bugaboo where the barriers to entry are too high? That is what almost always happens when an service or good becomes widespread or essential enough to become what is in essence a public utility...

And if you are truly correct about those naked shorts, then we stand to make a decent profit. I doubt it as most of the easy money has been already made, but I do have significant skin in the game...

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 14:11 | 4436932 akak
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Fair enough Akak....

But I don't ever again want to hear you bitch about the price of natural gas in Alaska...

Is that not reasonable?

Flak, when did I ever "bitch about the price of natural gas in Alaska"?  I don't ever recall having done so, or having ever even mentioned the price of natural gas in Alaska.

I have recently complained about the gouging we here in Alaska suffer via the obviously overpriced shipping rates of FedEx and UPS, but that is all that I can recall 'bitching' about.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 16:40 | 4437365 Flakmeister
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Would you like me to dig out a post or three of yours where you bitched about NG in Alaska...

You know the ones, where you complain that there are no exports but prices are still high? You don't remember our discussions about the Nikiski LNG plant on the Kenai peninsula?


You are lucky in that I really don;t want to go through your posting history to show you...

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 20:18 | 4438119 akak
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Flak, you are wrong again.

I may have complained about the price of gasoline in Alaska at some point here, but I am quite confident that I have NEVER complained about the price of natural gas, ever, in this forum.  The Tesoro refinery in Nikiski has nothing to do with natural gas anyway (although there is an LNG loading facility in the vicinity).

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:58 | 4434875 seek
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The opposite also applies. I know many folks in the preparedness community just love cruising craigslist 2-3 weeks after major events like this, picking up generators and the like at steep discounts. So having a little cash available for the aftermath allows you an opportunity as well.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:12 | 4434930 Exponere Mendaces
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I think he forgot that most southerners are complete retards. But hey, its ZH, and there's always room for another "Society is falling apart" post.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:54 | 4435410 Tall Tom
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Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:10 | 4434932 Exponere Mendaces
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I think he forgot that most southerners are complete retards. But hey, its ZH, and there's always room for another "Society is falling apart" post.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:54 | 4435414 Tall Tom
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Repeating your garbage does not lend it anymore credence.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 02:03 | 4435576 Al Gorerhythm
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Your programming is complete. You graduate with honors, Stooge Of The Year.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:11 | 4434934 Exponere Mendaces
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I think he forgot that most southerners are complete retards. But hey, its ZH, and there's always room for another "Society is falling apart" post.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:30 | 4434997 akak
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Speaking of retards, Exponential Mendacity, you might want to stop pounding the "Enter" key like a meth-addled monkey.

Just once is enough.

(And actually, for your posts, just once is one time too much.)

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:34 | 4435020 knukles
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And so far he's getting the same number of red arrows on each of 'em.
Tough audience, this!

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:44 | 4435078 nmewn
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This posting comments thingy is a highly intelligent, heavilly encrypted block chain of technical events here, wholly dependent on a fast internet connection & lightening fast BitBot reflexes!

I mean, the monetary fate of the world and the fine reputation of someone surreptitiously named Satoshi could very well hang in the balance!

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 05:16 | 4435745 Element
Fri, 02/14/2014 - 07:54 | 4435889 nmewn
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Responded there.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 20:49 | 4438262 nmewn
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I'm bored with it...but...because you wrote a fucking novel, I re-re-responded.

NOW...I'm done ;-)

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 05:27 | 4435753 StychoKiller
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(At least 4 people "Like" this comment!) :>D

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 05:29 | 4435754 StychoKiller
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(At least 4 people "Like" this comment!) :>D

[edit] this comment was meant for enmwn (whatever) WTF???

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:28 | 4434999 nmewn
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You're into BitCoin aren't you? ;-)

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:28 | 4435001 ceilidh_trail
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Did you mean to post the same thing three times or are you projecting again?

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:51 | 4435101 Blythes Master
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Said the impatient mentally challenged individual. /s

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:12 | 4435158 WillyGroper
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Like the tard that just posted the same thing 3 times?

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:11 | 4435310 Brutlstrudl
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The greatest threat to society is a breakdown in the distribution and control of prescription drugs, coupled with the proliferation of semi automatic rifles

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:08 | 4434642 Soul Glow
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I panicked a while ago - bought silver and gold.  Now I'm just waiting, watching the wheels go round.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:59 | 4434879 Crash Overide
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I am as ready as I will ever be... and until then keep stacking my friends.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:13 | 4435316 Brutlstrudl
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They're coming ofF.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:07 | 4434643 CrashisOptimistic
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"So what do you think?"


I think none of your scenarios imply FOREVER and thus are trivial.


Which means give me scenarios where civilization goes down and STAYS down.  Then you have a scenario.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 23:47 | 4435226 s2man
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I agree, except for one;  The EMP/grid down is a EOTWAWKI scenario.  Every estimate I read is 80-90% death rate.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:55 | 4435416 Flakmeister
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About we raise the temp of the planet another 4 C, thereby frying the worlds current breadbaskets while raising sea levels 18 ft over the next 80 years....

Is that an apropos scenario?

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 02:44 | 4435613 MEAN BUSINESS

unpossible. mass extinction, MEH, that'll only happen at 4.004923346752572365 C. reddit 'bout dat! /

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 13:34 | 4436822 Flakmeister
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I see that they upped the dosage for you....

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:06 | 4434645 Being Free
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Short list.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:45 | 4434818 DeadFred
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No asteroids, zombies, aliens, magnetic pole flip... He's just not thinking outside the box. I'm getting my solar powered zombie-weed-whacker set up right away. Joking aside I'm reasonably prepped for this list but if things don't resolve after a year or so the aid-from-a-higher-power clause will need to be invoked. Manna from heaven or stairway to heaven, gonna need one or the other.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 22:27 | 4435005 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Here is my plan to eat, great read!

Forage year round, and get by no problem. If it gets tough, you can have some "long pig"

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:06 | 4435291 John Skookum
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"Living off the land" is a popular fantasy among excitable survivalist types, but let's be realistic.  In a true SHTF scenario in which farming is disrupted, banks and grocery stores are shuttered, and the teeming millions are left to fend for themselves by a collapsing government, do you think you are the only one who would go out in the woods to forage?  

Our ancestors nearly drove the wild game of this continent extinct over a hundred years ago, using black-powder rifles and shotguns, at a time when there were perhaps a quarter the number of people in this country as we have today. If the situation is so dire as to require foraging to survive, every animal in the continental US larger than a field mouse will be killed and eaten within six months. Every berry patch and abandoned orchard will be stripped bare while the fruit is still green.  You'll be eating tree bark and cactus pads.  And long pig, as you said.  Did you read "The Road" by Cormac McCarthy?

If you really want to live off the land without having a gunfight over every wild onion and tree squirrel and edible mushroom you find, you had better make plans to head 500 miles north of the Canadian border.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:12 | 4435304 msamour
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Any American I find in Canada after a societal collapse will end up on my Bar-B-Q, and in my freezer...

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:08 | 4435446 Rock On Roger
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Should do well on a bar b, lots of fat on those fuckers.


Stack On

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 01:17 | 4435441 Flakmeister
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Someone who actually gets it...

Admittedly, the overwhelming majority of the country will die like mayflies so the number of scavengers will  be less. So instead of 6 months, I'll give it 3 years tops to cull at least 95% of the population. Take away access to fossil fuels and suddenly a lot of places are insanely over populated...

BTW, there is a reason nobody lives 500 miles north of the border....

And yes, Long Pig will definately be in play....

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 03:34 | 4435642 buttmint
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BBQd de Bankster...anyone try this?

Better to saute? Or sear and use tinfoil with a splash of wine on the grill?

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 15:58 | 4437371 Flakmeister
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Run 'em through a hay baler and feed 'em to the pigs...

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 04:36 | 4435698 Tapeworm
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Several years ago I posted on the deals that COSTCO had on "survival" food. ZH even picked up on the thread.

 I bought enough for my employees but not one would take me up on the offer of getting a load at half of the already discounted price.

 I suppose that the worst of the lot still has ten or fifteen years to go on shelf life, but none give a damn.

 The stuff costs about 65% more now than it did then.

 I will never go hungry with the heap o' crap that I foolishly bought to plan for them.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 17:06 | 4437606 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Dude, most Americans will starve before they eat a green vegetable. At least in the Midwest where I am, there is enough forage that no one knows about to get by. Also, long pig....

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:23 | 4435335 merizobeach
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"long pig"

That's fucking hilarious!

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:07 | 4434647 CoonT
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talk about bubbles; biggest one of all is the humanity bubble. Blame it on the West, the left, or just easy living, but one thing for sure, is that we have been thwarting mother nature for too long.

Darwin awards were made to be received, dammit!


Don't worry though, coming soon to a city near you... :)

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:12 | 4434668 Skateboarder
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Let us not misuse the word 'humanity'; there has been a homo sapiens bubble.

Fri, 02/14/2014 - 00:26 | 4435344 merizobeach
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Let's also not mis-use the species' title--while technically still hominids, the bubble is in the population of homo devolutis.

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:08 | 4434652 fuu
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How many of these stories will have to be retracted like the rapes in the superdome?

Thu, 02/13/2014 - 21:17 | 4434684 The Gooch
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Ray Nagin is headed to the Thunderdome.


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