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Puerto Rico – America’s Version Of Greece?

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Submitted by Pater Tenebrarum of Acting-Man blog,

The Crisis Worsens

We previously discussed Puerto Rico in these pages in October of last year (see “Puerto Rico’s Debt Crisis – Another Domino Keels Over”). At the time, the public debt crisis looked increasingly worrisome – in fact, it seemed as though Puerto Rico would eventually have to apply for a federal bail-out, and if it failed to get one, it might have to restructure its debt (it actually cannot do that, see further below). Several months have now passed and the situation apparently hasn't gotten better. Before we continue, allow us to point out though that noted contrarian Jeff Gundlach thinks that Puerto Rico will eventually be rescued – he believes that too many politicians have a vested interest in not letting anything bad happen:

“Municipal bonds are slightly overvalued, he said. Investors who are willing to tolerate volatility will get rewarded for the risk in Puerto Rico’s bonds. Too many politicians rely on votes tied to the stability of Puerto Rico to allow a crisis there, according to Gundlach. “Puerto Rico’s bonds are going to make it to the other side of the valley,” he said.”

(emphasis added)

We should point out to this that politicians don't always get what they want, especially in the event of a debt crisis. The cost of rescuing Puerto Rico may be deemed too high, and the politicians with a vested interest are not the only ones needed to green-light rescue measures. In the event of a bailout, others will have to justify their support to their own constituents. With that out of the way, here is a fairly recent chart of the Barclay's Puerto Rico municipal bond index:

 


 

Puerto Rico bond index

Puerto Rico's bonds continue to plummet - click to enlarge.

 


 

S&P has just downgraded Puerto Rico's debt to junk, as reported here:

“The most recent blow to Puerto Rico’s economic reputation is yet another downgrade of its debt, this time to junk. S&P slashed the rating on Tuesday because, in a nutshell, the commonwealth is going to need a lot more money and that money isn’t going to get any easier to come by.

 

Although some initial reports indicate that investors are shrugging off the downgrade, the possibility of further downgrades by the other two major ratings agencies, Moody’s and Fitch (which both currently rate Puerto Rico a mere notch above junk), could spark a sell-off by institutional debt holders. That would make it even more difficult for the government to raise the cash it sorely needs.”

(emphasis added)

There has of course already been a lot of institutional selling in Puerto Rico's debt, as the decline in its bond prices attests to. However, to the extent that the bonds are contained in investable indexes and other tracker products such as ETFs, future rating downgrades would of course provoke additional selling.

The economic backdrop meanwhile isn't particularly encouraging:

 


 

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Puerto Rico's annual GDP growth – essentially the territory has been in a severe recession since 2007 – click to enlarge.

 


 

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Total public debt since 2007. The public debt-to-GDP ratio is almost at 100% by now – click to enlarge.

 


 

On the Skids

According to a recent article in the NYT, Puerto Rico has a set of problems that reminds us a bit of Greece in several respects. Specifically, the persistence of the economic slump, the high unemployment rate, the incredible size of the public debtberg relative to the population, and an accelerating exodus of said population as it no longer sees a future for itself in the territory. The new governor has even jokingly wondered whether it was really such a good idea to take the job:

“Puerto Rico’s slow-motion economic crisis skidded to a new low last week when both Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s downgraded its debt to junk status, brushing aside a series of austerity measures taken by the new governor, including increasing taxes and rebalancing pensions. But that is only the latest in a sharp decline leading to widespread fears about Puerto Rico’s future.

 

In the past eight years, Puerto Rico’s ticker tape of woes has stretched unabated: $70 billion in debt, a 15.4 percent unemployment rate, a soaring cost of living, pervasive crime, crumbling schools and a worrisome exodus of professionals and middle-class Puerto Ricans who have moved to places like Florida and Texas.

 

The situation has grown so dire that this tropical island, known for its breathtaking beaches, salsero vibe and tax breaks, is now mentioned in the same breath as Detroit, with one significant difference. Puerto Rico, a United States territory of 3.6 million people that is treated in large part like a state, cannot declare bankruptcy.

 

From bottom to top, Puerto Ricans are watching it unfold with a mixture of disbelief and stoicism. Alejandro García Padilla, who was elected Puerto Rico’s governor by a sliver of a margin in 2012, said that after he began to wade deeply into the island’s economic and social quagmire, his fight-or-flight instincts kicked into high gear.

 

“I thought about asking for a recount,” Mr. García Padilla, 42, said with a grin during a recent interview in La Fortaleza, the 500-year-old government residence, recalling, among other things, the $2.2 billion deficit. “But now it’s too late.”

(emphasis added)

Puerto Rico cannot declare bankruptcy, but that doesn't actually matter. It can still go bankrupt anyway, with or without a 'declaration'. We're actually not sure what this is supposed to mean in practice. Does it mean that servicing its debt takes precedence over all other government expenditures? In that case one could envisage a hypothetical future in which the only remnant of its government will be a band of armed tax collectors.

Similar to Greece, the measures taken to lower the deficit have probably made the deficit ultimately worse by destroying large swathes of the small business sector:

“A sense of pessimism pervades on the island. Streets are lined with empty storefronts in San Juan and in smaller cities like Mayagüez; small businesses, hit hard by high electricity, water and tax bills and hurt by drops in sales, have closed and stayed closed.

 

Schools sit shuttered either because of disrepair or because of a dwindling number of students. In this typically convivial capital, communities have erected gates and bars to help thwart carjackers and home invaders. Illegal drugs, including high-level narco-trafficking, are one of the few growth industries.”

(emphasis added)

Evidently, the government has taken the euro area approach to dealing with excessive government debt. This is to say, instead of concentrating on cutting its spending, it has raised the fiscal burden on businesses, many of which cannot continue to operate given the new impositions. This in turn lowers tax revenues, as many formerly tax paying establishments no longer exist. The predictable effect on the public debt is that it keeps growing.

Austerity always seems to mean 'austerity for everyone except government'. However, that is a formula that cannot possibly work, as it amounts to slaying the goose that lays the golden eggs. The result is a never-ending tale of woe:

“Puerto Rico, about 1,000 miles from Miami, has long been poor. Its per capita income is around $15,200, half that of Mississippi, the poorest state. Thirty-seven percent of all households receive food stamps; in Mississippi, the total is 22 percent.

 

But the extended recession has hit the middle-class hardest of all, economists said. Jobs are still scarce, pension benefits for some are shrinking and budgets continue to tighten. Even many people with paychecks have chosen simply to parlay their United States citizenship into a new life on the mainland.

 

Puerto Rico’s drop in population has far outpaced that of American states. In 2011 and 2012, the population fell by nearly 1 percent, according to census figures. From July 2012 to July 2013, it declined again by 1 percent, or about 36,000 people. That is more than seven times the drop in West Virginia, the state with the steepest population losses.”

(emphasis added)

The shrinking population is obviously a significant problem as well – it means that the burden of the government's debt is borne by fewer and fewer citizens, who must fear that even more hardship will be imposed on them. This in turn is likely to accelerate the exodus.

And indeed, the enormous costs businesses face in Puerto Rico are inter alia a direct result of government running major industries – running them into the ground, that is. Citing the example of a struggling small business owner the NYT writes:

“But his expenses mounted, including $600 a month in power bills, more than double what consumers pay on the mainland. The sky-high cost is a consequence of Puerto Rico’s inefficient government-run monopoly on electricity and its 67 percent dependency on petroleum for electric power. Other utilities are exorbitant, too. Last year, water rates rose 60 percent in a bid to help cut the state-run water company’s debt.

(emphasis added)

Obviously letting the government run electricity and water utilities was a bad idea, as it always is. Such publicly-owned monopoly industries usually provide ample opportunities for graft and political cronyism (see Greece as a pertinent example) and it was probably no different in Puerto Rico. Here are a few of the things the new governor has done to bring the deficit down:

“Vowing not to lay off any more workers, he raised taxes sharply to provide much-needed revenue and moved aggressively to promote incentives to entice wealthy investors, like the hedge fund billionaire John Paulson, who has invested in an exclusive beach resort and condo complex.”

(emphasis added)

The workers he didn't want to lay off are of course government employees. In other words, net consumers of the wealth others produce (government doesn't produce anything of value – if it were, it would not need to obtain its revenue by coercion).

And if at the same time, he moved to 'entice billionaires' like John Paulson to invest, he obviously has to get tax revenue from someone other than billionaires. The 'sharply raised taxes' have have thus hit small business and the middle class the hardest. Some of the tax impositions are so bizarre as to defy belief:

“His tax increases have hit some businesses hard, which could pose a further drag on the economy. Among the many taxes he initiated, the governor raised the corporate tax rate to a maximum of 39 percent. Last year, the economy continued on a slide. “The new administration has a bookkeeping mentality as opposed to an economic development mentality,” said Pedro Pierluisi, Puerto Rico’s nonvoting representative in Congress and a political opponent of the governor. “Here you find Puerto Rico with an underlying economic problem charging its corporations — its job creators — 39 percent. Hello!”

 

Perhaps the most maligned is the new lucrative gross receipts tax, which some owners of small- and medium-size businesses say threatens to put them out of business. Because of the way the tax is structured, it affects companies with less than a 5 percent net profit margin. This means that many food-related companies, like supermarkets, and new businesses, are hit hardest. The smaller the margin, the higher the tax.

 

Some stores are paying an effective tax rate of 130 percent, said Manuel Reyes Alfonso, the vice president of a trade association that represents the food industry. If the tax is not revised, some will be forced to shut down and others will have to raise prices, he said. “It is absurd,” said Mr. Reyes Alfonso. “It’s like selling the car to buy gas.”

(emphasis added)

A 130% tax rate? Yes, that is going to work out for sure. The lower one's profit margins the more tax one is forced to pay? We wonder who came up with this stroke of governmental genius.

 

Conclusion

Frankly, it is a complete mystery to us how a small territory enjoying all the advantages of being part of the US while remaining largely self-administered, sporting an inviting climate and endowed with great natural beauty, could ever be so insanely mismanaged that it ends up with an unbearable debt burden and an economy that seems caught in an unending downward spiral. It must have  taken a real effort to bugger such excellent starting conditions up.

The global crisis that began in 2007/8 has unmasked many unsustainable economic dispositions. Unfortunately, the proper conclusions have still not been arrived at, as evidenced by the fact that the same old Keynesian recipes that have failed over and over again are being implemented on an even grander scale. One must not be misled by the claims of 'austerity' being imposed, as this has evidently little bearing on government spending as such, but is rather an attempt to squeeze more blood out of an already shriveled turnip, namely what remains of the private sector. Puerto Rico seems – at least so far – not any different in that respect.

 

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Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:05 | 4440558 Boris Alatovkrap
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I like to be in America
Okay by me in America
Everything free in America

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:13 | 4440584 666
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Their plight seems to be about the same as the USSA's. If only they could print up endless amounts of currency...

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:24 | 4440617 knukles
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Nattering nabobs of negativism
Everything fixed.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:30 | 4440639 economics9698
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I thought Puerto Rico wanted independence?  Maybe we can finance an independent Puerto Rico movement and get them into the Promised Land.

 

A workers paradise for Puerto Rico just like Cuba.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:49 | 4440681 TBT or not TBT
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They need chavismo.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 20:01 | 4440708 0b1knob
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Puerto Rico's debt = $80 billion?  About one month's QE.   A mere trifle.

How about statehood?   Puerto Rico gets bailed out, the demotards get two more safely Demo senate seats and a half dozen house.

What?  Puerto Ricans voted statehood down?   Too stupid to live....

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 20:12 | 4440729 OC Sure
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"...endowed with great natural beauty, [and being] ever so insanely mismanaged that it ends up with an unbearable debt burden and an economy that seems caught in an unending downward spiral."

Puerto Rico is just a metaphor for all of America though, right? Isn't America America's Greece?

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 21:10 | 4440871 Soul Glow
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We are all Greece now.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 21:43 | 4440951 mjcOH1
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I'd say they're fucked until their votes get included in the electoral college alotment for the presidency.  

Then the Kenyan or whatever thing the entitled replace it with will leave no dollar unpaid in the race to trade votes for entitlements.

Sun, 02/16/2014 - 04:43 | 4441643 The Vineyard
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Those folk need to learn to speak Englishee.  How dare they.  Bitches.

Sun, 02/16/2014 - 11:44 | 4441910 Pool Shark
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If they voted against statehood, the reason is likely that that they didn't want to start paying federal income taxes like the rest of us US citizens.

 

Sun, 02/16/2014 - 15:37 | 4442577 TruthHunter
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"Those folk need to learn to speak Englishee. "


They all study English. The ones who actually can learn it leave. Moving

to the States means you passed your IQ test.

tThe murder rate is 10 % higher than Mexico's. 

Sun, 02/16/2014 - 12:02 | 4442087 LMAOLORI
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More like taxpayers are f**ked already by the Kenyan Dictator

The Obama Administration's Backdoor Bailout Of Puerto Rico

snip

A lot of powerful interests like the current situation. They include the government and both major political parties in Puerto Rico, the Obama administration, investors in Puerto Rico’s municipal bonds, and U.S. multinationals that can credit the tax. The only ones on the short end of the stick are U.S. taxpayers, who are footing the bill that they would probably be unwilling to pay if they were ever asked.

 

And just the other day from Reuters

'Backdoor bailout' boosts Puerto Rico's revenues

snips

For three years, the IRS and Treasury Department have been assessing the legality of the credit. The evaluations continue, a Treasury Spokesperson said on Monday, adding that any final decision will be "prospective." That means corporations will not have to pay retroactively for taking the credit if it is ultimately deemed unconstitutional.

"This look-the-other-way approach to the credit-ability of the tax may be questionable procedure and policy, but it has furthered the Obama administration's goal of maximizing assistance to Puerto Rico under current law," wrote Sullivan, who first highlighted the growth of Act 154 last month. "It is unlikely in these times of extremely tight budgets that the administration could obtain congressional approval for financial benefits of similar magnitude."

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 22:11 | 4441039 booboo
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Right, they don't want the burden of being a state but want all that free shit army stuff.

We call them New Yorkaricans down here, they fly to New York from the island just for the wide brim baseball caps and "I Love New York" sticker and move to Florida for the sun and free shit.

Sun, 02/16/2014 - 21:22 | 4443525 neidermeyer
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Puerto Ricans don't want statehood... too many perks associated with being a deadbeat commonwealth ... and maybe you haven't heard yet but Dear Leader (or as he is called in PR "El Hefe") has a pen AND a telephone and no longer needs legislative consent... so PR is "SOL".

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 23:36 | 4441258 Freddie
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAM3rIBG5k&feature=kp

Amerika

We're all living in Amerika
Amerika ist wunderbar
We're all living in Amerika
Amerika, Amerika

We're all living in Amerika
Coca-Cola, sometimes war
We're all living in Amerika
Amerika, Amerika

Sun, 02/16/2014 - 02:09 | 4441530 Paveway IV
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+100 for Rammstein ref.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:05 | 4440559 RafterManFMJ
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Puerto Rico you poor rough Caribbean diamond - when will you burdens lift and your trials cease?

Come, join the Union and enjoy our decline!

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:07 | 4440565 Boris Alatovkrap
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Major export of Puerto Rico is Rum and Poverty. Is welcome in AmeriKa!

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:30 | 4440635 MrButtoMcFarty
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Puerto Rican ass is some of the finest ass in the world....they got some nice beaches and good food too....

 

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:56 | 4440700 DaddyO
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If you happen to be in San Juan try this place.

http://www.metropolrestaurant.com/

Very Good!

DaddyO

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 20:25 | 4440761 MrButtoMcFarty
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I avoid San Juan these days....I usually fly into Aguadilla or Ponce and stay on west coast....probably been 20x or so over last 25 years....

I got my eye on a little banana/citrus farm in the mountains but only 20min or so to Combate/Rincon areas.

Eight acres with a 300' of springfed river frontage....a small waterfall....no pesticides or chemicals ever.

The locals are friendly for most part....they know the banksters are fucking them over....they just live their lives and get by.

Honestly....there is major opportunity on much of island right now....but one must understand that the locals wont tolerate ugly american bullshit....you reap exactly what you sow.

Sun, 02/16/2014 - 13:41 | 4442285 Theosebes Goodfellow
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Sounds great! Good luck with the finca, compai!

Sun, 02/16/2014 - 17:20 | 4442829 Rafferty
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How much did that cost you, if you don'y mind my asking?

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 22:13 | 4441047 booboo
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They all have a fine ass until they hit thirty and BAM....Titanic Ass strikes them.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 23:37 | 4441261 Freddie
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Rum mit Coca Cola - wunderbar

Sun, 02/16/2014 - 21:33 | 4443554 neidermeyer
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PR rum is very good , not as good as Mount Gay but quite nice ,, especially the "made for local consumption" overproof rum... I lived in Guaynabo in the 1960's and it was unmistakable even then that PR would never amount to anything.. currently there are exactly ZERO English language radio stations on the island... they just want the "free shit" ... LOSERS!

 

As someone else here noted the west and south parts of the island are the best... would be a nice place to buy some land and disappear...

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:44 | 4440673 Harbanger
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Right now they actually have potential because of their low income tax.  That will end soon as it looks like they want to join the US keynesian failure.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 23:38 | 4441263 Freddie
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Oh F**k - they will always be the 51st Detroit

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:06 | 4440560 ZerOhead
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Too many politicians rely on votes tied to the stability of Puerto Rico to allow a crisis there, according to Gundlach. “Puerto Rico’s bonds are going to make it to the other side of the valley,” he said.”

Fifty bucks says Team Yellen back at the Fed will make sure of it...

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:49 | 4440680 knukles
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Puuuuuuuuuuuurfect addition to the Fed's balance sheet. 

Since we're exceptional there should be no qualms about the Fed's Zimbabweization of the balance sheet in terms of size or quality.

After all it isn't called Qualitative Easing for nothing.*

Foreward, Bitchez!

*maniacal laughter

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:50 | 4440682 disabledvet
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I think Mr. Gundlach is making a statement vis a vis the creditors...not Puerto Rico.

Obviously we have already not only had bankruptcies here in the USA...but they include economies that have a lot more than "sandy beaches."

Cue "thousand dollar an hour lawyers" as the "hits keep coming" vis a vis the Fed.
That's what Felix Solomon meant when he said "we have an over reliance on the Fed here."

To my knowledge there is no "plan" (legislation) to "rescue Puerto Rico."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2014/01/28/the-obama-administrat...
Apparently the expectation is for the Fed to do a 65 billion dollar bailout.
That might explain why the dollar is tanking here.

Name one municipality that won't want that deal right now...

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:05 | 4440561 ebworthen
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The U.S. is it's own slow motion economic crisis; Puerto Rico is our canary in the coal mine.

Detroit and Stockton are our stateside canaries.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:07 | 4440562 NoDebt
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Worth it only for this new word:  debtberg.

Puerto Rico is Detroit south.  I'm amazed that the author is amazed that this mess could happen there.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:08 | 4440574 Boris Alatovkrap
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<-- Debtroit

<-- Poorto Rico

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:19 | 4440600 Skateboarder
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<-- Stawkton

<-- San Bankruptino

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:45 | 4440676 Boris Alatovkrap
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Is not San Bandido, name after patron saint of municipal kleptocracy?

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 22:10 | 4441035 wisehiney
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 Naw, but I heerd that nukular bombs was invented there.

The muni queen biotch of the world is the mayor that lives just up the street. THINK BIG! she says

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 20:10 | 4440725 Shad_ow
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No worries, Peurto Rico, our government never lets a crisis go to waste and Obanana has a magic pen.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:15 | 4440593 fonzannoon
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Oppenheimer Funds, the right way to invest (in Puerto Rico)

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:32 | 4440647 economics9698
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They must have pulled out like in Venezuela.  Wandering .....

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:20 | 4440603 The Reich
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Look at GNP growth in 2012!!!

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:23 | 4440614 Goldilocks
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Brother Nathanael, http://realjewnews.com

IRS: NOT a gov't agency, operates on Puerto Rico for the private FED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiQkAynPWhk (6:23)

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:24 | 4440615 Paracelsus
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Wasn't Loreena Bobbitt from Puerto Rico? Those PR women are good with knives.Yikes!

Bullish for titanium jockstraps....

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:30 | 4440637 buzzsaw99
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i guess the bankers weren't aware of the heavy burden they were placing on the poor of puerto rico. [/sarc.]

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:35 | 4440652 Brennus
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Puerto rico debe ser pobre puerto.
(Rich port is a poor port). [Thanks poor Google translations]

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:38 | 4440658 HerrDoktor
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Si, se puede!

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:35 | 4440654 hootowl
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Ovomit should hire as many of those idiot poorto Rican government bureaucrats as possible to help him implement and expedite his plan of destruction for the U.S

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:41 | 4440665 R_Soles
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And now e have another doofus region, Quebec, wanting even more handouts from the rest of Canada to perpetuate their extreme socialisy agenda and on their way to bankruptcy as they have a net loss in population over the last 35 years. At least Puerto Rico has nice weather. Fuck, the EU indeed

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:53 | 4440688 syntaxterror
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EVERYONE gets a bailout. Load up on the 100%-tax-free PR bonds paying 10%. With unlimited free money courtesey of savers, you just know they'll get a bailout. 

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 21:17 | 4440889 Soul Glow
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Long the dollar.

/sarc

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 19:55 | 4440698 Gunga
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We the people are not morally or Constitutionally liable for the odious  debt contracted by corrupt politicians and international financial institutions.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 21:37 | 4440935 Clowns on Acid
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Most people know that but Congress and the Fed keep telling us that we are and that we will all be poor if no bailouts...

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 20:04 | 4440713 More_sellers_th...
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Sad...once a proud place, with a great future....became a conduit for the drug trade and no one wanted to vacation there anymore... now a sad socialist shithole full of sexually confused populace with their hands out...

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 20:22 | 4440756 americanspirit
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Hey More_sellers_th...  You can't talk about the USA that way! Oh, wait..... Never mind.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 20:29 | 4440777 knukles
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Just because Ricky Martin is gay doesn't mean that all the gay people in PR are gay.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 20:43 | 4440812 More_sellers_th...
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haha my brother is raising 4 duaghters there... their biggest complaint.... no straight men

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 21:16 | 4440886 Soul Glow
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If I had a daughter that would be no complaint!

Sun, 02/16/2014 - 00:32 | 4441355 knukles
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If I had a gay son, he'd look just like Ricky Martin

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 21:35 | 4440928 Clowns on Acid
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It's become the gay vacation spot. It has overtaken DR in that regard. Prostitution pays well there on a relative basis. Just ask Barney Frank.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 20:27 | 4440773 Stuck on Zero
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They experience the (debt based) wealth effect and are entering the poverty effect.

 

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 20:39 | 4440806 Dollarmedes
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"It must have  taken a real effort to bugger such excellent starting conditions up."

 

I don't know...how did they do it in California?

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 20:51 | 4440832 q99x2
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Banksters destroyed them with financial terrorism and weapons of financial destruction.

Arrest Loyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon and Janet Yellen..

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 21:15 | 4440878 Soul Glow
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Hang them for their traitorous acts.  Show no mercy.  Call them out and march armed with blunt weapons, guns, and be ready to fight.

Be ready.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 22:01 | 4441009 ThroxxOfVron
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A backwards cesspool of rampant corruption, moustashioed machismo and general something-for-nothingism.

So unlike all the dynamic robust efficient latin(o)s economies everywhere else.

High time for an exodus to NYC where they can loudly proclaim themselves NuYoricans and clamber to DeBlasio and his Chavanistas for public housing and hand-outs and 'equal representation' at the bureaucratic troughs.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 22:02 | 4441015 Clowns on Acid
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The arbitrage is to leave Puerto rico come to NYC. Then apply for ObamaCare and get an EBT card, welfare check. and medicare card. Give card to relative in NYC. Move back to Puero Rico. have relative in NYC mail you goods purchased in NYC from taxpayer handouts. sell goods in PR, live large.

Many PR's figured this one out many moons ago. Also DR and Jamaica.   

Sun, 02/16/2014 - 10:12 | 4441880 Obese-Redneck
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The ignorance on ZH is astounding yet entertaining, you are one ignorant basturd.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 22:06 | 4441028 wisehiney
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The pretense that Porto Riko was ever anytheing but? Now that is the guffaw I needed for my sore tired tipsy honky ass!

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 22:35 | 4441108 The Chief
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Im not sure why I never hear about the "other" significant US territory, Guam. Guam is a monumental failure.  Its debt is at least as bad as PR with an even more corrupt government, if that is possible.

Sat, 02/15/2014 - 23:51 | 4441288 MilwaukeeMark
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No problem.
Tax the rich. Promise an increase in the minimum wage. Sue any rating agency that lowers the credit rating.
Problem solved.

Sun, 02/16/2014 - 12:35 | 4442140 kchrisc
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Government, being a criminal syndicate, can only produce poverty, misery and death. All exhortations otherwise are lies.

"Guillotines produce less government."

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