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5 Years Later - What Did Obama's "American Recovery & Reinvestment Act" Achieve?

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Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:53 | Link to Comment lasvegaspersona
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Deflation can only be met with more printing (it is all that will be tolerated anyway.) In spite of the failure of prior 'more printing' we shall see 'even more printing' lest the prominent and powerful might fail.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:09 | Link to Comment National Blessing
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It temporarily halted a deflationary depression.  Or so I've been told.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:21 | Link to Comment qqqqtrader
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Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:35 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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Government- a giant game of "Cookie Clicker"

Yeah, I just played it for the firs time tonight.  Utterly meaningless, just the insatiable quest for MOAR.  Thousands, millions, billions, trillions.... all wasted time and effort.  Straight down the toilet.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:57 | Link to Comment knukles
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Marxism, Cloward Piven, Establishment Republicans and the Democrats can fuck up a wet dream



Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:39 | Link to Comment Crawdaddy
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It accomplished giving these assholes more control. Here is an analysis of "scope of global ownership influence & control"

Homework! <snipped excerpt to top ten>

S. Vitali, J.B. Glattfelder, and S. Battiston:
The network of global corporate control
Table S1: Top 50 control-holders. Shareholders are ranked by network control (according to thethreshold model, TM).
Column indicate country, NACE industrial sector code, actor’s position inthe bow-tie sections, cumulative network control.
Notice that NACE code starting with 65,66,67 belong to the ?nancial sector.

Economic actor name, Country NACE code, Network Cumul. , networkposition control (TM, %)1
FMR CORP US 6713 IN 8.944
AXA FR 6712 SCC 11.215
UBS AG CH 6512 SCC 18.4610

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 01:02 | Link to Comment Richard Chesler
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Obozo's campaign was paid off. And then some.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 01:59 | Link to Comment zaphod
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"What Did Obama's "American Recovery & Reinvestment Act" Achieve?"

1) Votes

2) Massive Immigration

3) Votes

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 02:12 | Link to Comment Boris Alatovkrap
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"create more incentives for people to work, save and invest"

Boris respectfully is take issue with article. Is not business of centralized kleptocracy for "create incentive". Only business of legitimate government is establish and enforce equitable law reflection of natural law and inalienable right of people. Is business of individual for obedience to law and motivate self.

... but what is Boris know?

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 08:21 | Link to Comment new game
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ask hank and a handfull of goldmanites how it worked out. are they happy when enough is never enough?

i take solitude in knowing their lives are as fucked up as it gets and most likly they are missing the true

joys of life. starts with the family and get togethers. i picture a whos who game of i got a new masaratti

and galaxie and trophy bitch... lol with disdain, my true enjoyment-the sad fucks...

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:55 | Link to Comment wee-weed up
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O-ba-ma! O-ba-ma! O-ba-ma! O-ba-ma! O-ba-ma!

One Big Ass Mistake America!

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 00:36 | Link to Comment JohnnyBriefcase
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If only Romney or McCain had been (s)elected instead, right?

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 08:25 | Link to Comment The Chief
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Hey retard, did you just equivocate McCain and Romney? McStain shouldn't be equivocated with anyone. He's not human.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:40 | Link to Comment Millivanilli
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Shovel ready jobs weren't so shovel ready.  HAHAHAH MOTHER FUCKER.


God damn idiot.   

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:11 | Link to Comment Antifaschistische
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We are way way way past "governments" providing incentives.

Governments do nothing but create constraints.

We need congressional committees on ELIMINATING current laws and removing the constraints that keep us all from transacting freeling with others.    

We talk about being free in this country but when you visit just about any other country in the freaking world you see things like, people on the side of the street pushing a cart willing to whip you a plate of local favorite dishes.  NOT IN AMERICA!!   Because some governmental rule will prevent it via permitting.   and if pernitting doesn't kill free enterprise, then some inspector with a thermometer will shut them down.

yah yah, some of you will talk about how safe you feel now that the government protects you from unsafe food practices.  If you actually believe that, you've never been in the kitchen of ANY restaurant, where NO patron can actually see what goes on.  At least on the street, you can watch every step of the process.

We must remove constraints and let free thinking people behave freely.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 02:48 | Link to Comment mumbo_jumbo
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i certainly do not hear HSBC whining about government constraints and regulations that they simply do many of the banks and TBTF companies.

the problem is corporations and government are now in bed together who's main objective is middle class destruction.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 02:53 | Link to Comment Woodyg
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There's plenty of 'shovel ready jobs' except the kleptocrats and the oligarchs don't want to engage in OR Pay for real work - a Finacial Scam is much easier -
The problem w the stimulus is most of it was stolen - ANY business that had the level of graft and corruption the gov has wouldn't function either - well not without gov protection and bailouts -
During FDR's time the WPA and CCC spent 97% of monies on wages and raw materials - now you'd be lucky if the damn paycheck writing corp didn't take more than the 3% overhead.
Heck the actual model is now bid out at $150 per hour - sub it out multiple times until the sucker who does the actual works lucky to be paid $15 an hour - that's a 90% overhead/graft cost -
Say what you will about Keynes but he didn't include corruption and graft in his 'efficiency models
Forget Keynes - study Mussulini instead - and buy rope '

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 04:37 | Link to Comment Citizen_x
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That sounds like many of those bogus charities...

Wounded Warrior comes to mind

96 % plus to ADMIN costs

3 % to the kids missing an arm or a leg

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 09:01 | Link to Comment The Chief
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How fucking monsterous are 501 scumbags to exploit disfigured and wounded service people?

I have forbidden my family and my friends from giving a nickel to any such group. Somewhere at the top of most of these organizations sits a dual citizen, I'd speculate.

I wonder what that nationality is??? Hmmmm.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:50 | Link to Comment ZippyBananaPants
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I think one of my farts would be just as effective!

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:59 | Link to Comment knukles
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At least Farts contain combustible material an emergency source of energy,

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:58 | Link to Comment HardAssets
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Do some actually believe that any of it had to do with the economy or whats best for the American people ?

How naive

They probably think Soc Security and IRAs are about 'retirement savings'

that military spending is about 'defense'

and that O care is about your 'health'.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:59 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Sheriff Joe!...come back Sheriff Joe...we need you.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:39 | Link to Comment AmCockerSpaniel
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>>>The way to jolt an economy to life and to sustain long-term growth is to create more incentives for people to work, save and invest<<<  Lets hope the creation of jobs, fast and by any means, is part of the above "incentives".

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:09 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Hardly no one got my Shane/Pale Rider reference of Sheriff Bidens lost hopes & dreams, combined with the death & destruction left behind.

Pity, I guess he'll just ride off into the mountains and croak quietly on a piece of stimulus jerky.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 08:29 | Link to Comment The Chief
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With a Gen-u-ine Hawken in his hand.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:59 | Link to Comment The Wisp
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So if instead of giving that money to the banks, they had loaned it to American Business that employ people and make things, lets say any company with  50 or more employees and a history of paying their tax bills promptly.. where would the economy be..

  Oh wait we would have had tons of Unemployed bank people and financiers.. can't have those high paying people making  500 a week on unemployment

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:56 | Link to Comment Crawdaddy
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In the good world (not this one) all the broke banks and corps would have gone tits up, their assets sold to non-ponzi people, and after a shot term painful reorg, shit goes back on track. Stupid, vain and corrupt should loose not win. But in this world, well look out the window.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 08:28 | Link to Comment new game
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the worm will turn-that is a truth. so stay alive and plan to survive the turmoil.

you will need more than popcorn. today counts the most...

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:01 | Link to Comment Smartie37
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I believe this sums it up nicely:


Fuck You Krugman !

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:03 | Link to Comment jcpicks
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It has nothing to do with the economy or what's best for the American people.

Communism is alive and well right here in the great USSA.  Happy President's Day King O...


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:54 | Link to Comment nmewn
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"Shovel ready was, er ahhh, not as shovel ready as we expected...ha ha ha ha."

Yeah, thats fucking hysterical Barry.


Lets begin the countdown of vacuous economic bullshit, I'll start:

"Saved or created"











Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:57 | Link to Comment earl swagger
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Add Tesla

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:00 | Link to Comment nmewn
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And Solazyme.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:16 | Link to Comment marathonman
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And Acorn.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:01 | Link to Comment knukles
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General Motors, the UAW and senior GM bondholders.

Prodessor of Constitutional Law

College records


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:25 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Steven Rattner, the pension fund raider, almost forgot about him.


And LightSquared is Phil Falcone...but I digress.


And I've been known to digress even further ;-)

I forgot BrightSource and Sanjay Wagle, who, in concert with Google, is frying endangered birds in your neck of the woods...

"BrightSource received a $1.6 billion loan guarantee from the Department of Energy, funds that were allocated in the $787 billion stimulus package passed in 2009.

The largest investor in Brightsource (with a 25 percent stake) is VantagePoint Venture Partners, a firm whose principal, Sanjay Wagle, helped raised millions for President Obama’s campaign in 2008 and even served as a “renewable energy grants adviser” at the DOE."

All one, big ass raping family.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 03:17 | Link to Comment ReactionToClose...
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had forgotten ...... Stevie R...........remember the brilliantly induced bank run on Indy Mac by Chuckie Schumer?   of course not,,,,, the Candy Crowleys & Jon Stewarts (what is his real name again) of the world will never remind you

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 08:42 | Link to Comment The Chief
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So, 1.6 Bil loan guarantee coupled with a $600 MM usd investment tax credit (30% capital cost of project, estimated at 2.2 Bil). Pretty much covers the question of "why is this nightmare so expensive?" What happened to all of NRG's and Googles money?

It's a virtal lock for failure. We can address the particulars in about a year.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:02 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Al Whore laughed all the way to the bank(sters).  I hope his private jet flies over an active volcano and makes a vertical landing.  The 'Green' revolution was nothing but green fiat padding the accounts of unconscionable assholse like Gore, 'climate apologists', -public-money-fed researchers, etc.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:41 | Link to Comment Wahooo
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I'd love to read that he buried his jet in the side of a mountain. A fucking State funeral would be held for which we could all enjoy a drinking game.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 00:12 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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"Al Whore laughed all the way to the bank(sters)."


People suck.  That does not remove the responsibility people have of using their minds.


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:08 | Link to Comment ncdirtdigger
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I'll add my favorite:


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:11 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:54 | Link to Comment ncdirtdigger
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So fun it makes me want to go out on the deck and shoot my shotgun.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:21 | Link to Comment nmewn
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That was a classic Bidenism.

"Yes honey, go out on the balcony and fire both barrels into the sky (over the neighbors house) to scare the intruders off."

Now you have a simple club...Jill, good luck with the intruders breaking down our front door...I've got Secret Service protection and I'm in DC.

Fuckin Biden, I won't even go into not everyone has a balcony to shoot off of, that should speak for itself to his elitist mindset.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 12:20 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Horseshit and dead bodies are always shovel ready.

Government is superlative at producing copious quantites of both.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:14 | Link to Comment whatthecurtains
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Shovel shit ready.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:17 | Link to Comment oleander garch
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The problem was that the U.S. wasted resources on "shovel ready" when it could have been better served by a focus on the "noose ready" like Jamie Simon and Warren Buffet and Hank Paulson.  Much better economic growth if the crooks cannot steal from the taxpayers.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:03 | Link to Comment ISEEIT
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Jamie, Warren & Hank are predators. We actually must accept that predators exist.

The first necks to fill a noose ought to be the traitorous pimps who let these guy's play the game.

THATS what government is supposed to be for.

Enforcing the will of the people for the common good.

NOT pimping lies for the crooks.

End the Fed and that means FEDERAL........................................

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:18 | Link to Comment A82EBA
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The sheep I work with say what's not to love

"my 401s up 64% in 2 yrs, gettin affordable health care, min wages going up, gasoline cheap"

"WTF you talkin about better get gold, dollar collapse, divest from markets, bubble this bubble that, guns&ammo, SHTF and this will end badly, it's been 6 yrs shut up already"

topics like Fed, ECB, BOE, PMs, empire building, pipeline wars, hegemony, petro-dollar, devaluation & reserve currency are lost on most people I know.

Im still stackin, fuck'em

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:37 | Link to Comment Unpopular Truth
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Now they laugh at us for saying things like that.
When it happens, they will come to us for a hand-out.
It may be all-around best to keep quiet

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:50 | Link to Comment Vendetta
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"Fuck 'em"   Yep... I have given up on them, trying to get them just to read something other than the drivel from the TV all this time is liking pulling a baby's tooth ... so fuck em

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 21:47 | Link to Comment Frankie Carbone
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Pay no heed and show no mercy. This is merely natural selection at the human level.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:18 | Link to Comment q99x2
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John Corzine is the head of Obama's new MyRA program.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:21 | Link to Comment Blood Spattered...
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With my wife having her "mommy week", I could sure use some stimulus right about now.

I bet Hillary would at least offer up a handjob in exchange for my vote, right?

Just kidding, I'd rather masturbate with a handful of broken glass than participate in another fraudulent national election. 

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:11 | Link to Comment ISEEIT
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I'm out also. I don't even read 'papers' anymore. Don't own a tee-vee (well got one but if anybody I let in my place dares enter the matrix with it they be gone). The bullshit is with us and I may not be young and dumb enough to throw any serious punches, but I won't play anymore either.

It's going to get so f^^king ugly and it'll be magnificent.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:27 | Link to Comment drendebe10
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It did fund the arrogant lying narcissistic illegal alien kenyan muslim siciopaths grand imperial golf lifestyle aling w the wookie and   its 28 assistant s and its 17grand smock it parades around in @ the sap tax paying serfs n peasants expense. Aint Amerika grand if ur in the ruling elite.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:38 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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And his 57 'Czars'.  Forgot about them, didn't you?

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:57 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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 "Keeping Up With The Czardashians' Nope, see the same entitlement-sucking pieces of shit each and every 'season', in Ho-ho-ho-llywood or in District of Scumbia.  Makes no difference now, this shit will end one day,  sooner than most sheople ever expect and later than most ZH'ers hoped for. But it will end.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:29 | Link to Comment Sick
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I differ in the real solution.  We need to have real law enforcement.  No more TOO BIG TO FAIL, TOO BIG TO JAIL.  The financial and political crimes, crimes against the Constitution are at the root of our problems.  Unfortunately the criminals are in charge and the only way I see to correct the problems is to take action.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:36 | Link to Comment yogibear
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 "because the government is not doing enough"

What's enough?  Print $10 trillon/year, $100 trillion/year? Maybe send $100.000 per person in the US and Puerto Rico  for spending would sure generate inflation. It would stimulate China and other countries like Vietnam.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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What we have is a religion of economic theory. It is as virulent a religion that exists and it demands everything of it followers. Any failure, any back set only proves our lack of obedience to the religion. We do not question the mandates of those who speak for this religion, as a matter of fact those who do question it are blamed for any failing of the religious dictum. Not all that unlike radical Muslims, those deniers may well receive a fatwa which represents a direct threat to their public standing as well as a potential audit from the Papal Police (IRS). Until these non thinking zealots are off of the throne of power, we will be left debating the beauty and opulence of the King's clothes. Delusion will be our only escape.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:51 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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Should have called the motherfuckers bluff about tanks in the streets. Fuck You Hank !!!

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:05 | Link to Comment s2c
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What alternative universe do you idots live in.  In September 2008 we lost 400,000 jobs.  By January it was 800,000.  The stimulus bill, bank stress tests, and various Fed liquidity funds prevented a total economic collapse.  No one claims the stimulus bill was the most productive use of money but absent something we would be living in a world run by guns and amo.  Moreover, I don't need to rely on any counter-factuals to prove the stimulus worked.  Just look at Europe where austerity policies were followed.  Euro area growth since 2010 (the first year of the US stimulus) was half the growth rate of the US.  There is no other explanation for this difference besides the stimulus. To think that following Hayek we should all just let the world economy collapse is either an anarchist or mentally insane.  And flame all you want, i GUARANTEE IT I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING ZEROHEDGE longer than any commentator on this board.  I make my analysts read zerohedge regularly and I was one of the first commentators who corrected Tyler's faulty math in calculating the Citibank Preferred exchange rate in March 2009.   

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:36 | Link to Comment IridiumRebel
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Be proud then. We would be climbing back onto our feet instead buckling onto our knees before another collapse that will be a direct knockout punch. 2008 was nothing. 201X Will be Hell on Banker Earth.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:51 | Link to Comment Wahooo
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What recovery? You have analysts? You are not what America needs.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 00:18 | Link to Comment TheReplacement
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So you think bailing out criminals so they can continue to live the high life is good because otherwise they would have been hung?  Nothing has been learned.  Nothing has been fixed.  Nothing is going to stop it from happening again, and again, and again unless the criminals are hung.  Maybe you are one of them?  I only ask becuase people are keeping lists for the day it happens again.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 02:58 | Link to Comment newbie vampire
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You are quite correct.  But you did leave out the bit on how he gave every American/anyone a FREE phone.  Even ET would have got one and he/it etc could have called home.

Perhaps your analysts could invest some time on how to amend the constitution and allow the greatest POTUS to run for a 3rd term. 

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 03:45 | Link to Comment Global Observer
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You are right, the stimulus was about stopping/slowing the slide and not to create an actual recovery. But that was not how it was projected. Of course, politicians cannot possibly get away simply by telling the truth that there is no possibility of a recovery and vast sums of "tax payer" money need to be injected just to stop/slow the slide. But when the next meltdown starts, as it inevitably will, those who used up the extraordinary measures to stop/slow the previous slide will be in a far worse position than those who didn't. Since government capital injections into banks are now prohibited by law, they would have to resort to direct fiscal spending, which can have only one consequence, huge inflation and possibly hyperinflation.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:05 | Link to Comment spekulatn
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A job well done!! 

/sarc off/

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:07 | Link to Comment eddiebe
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 Here is what got accomplished:  His handlers and buddies got a lot richer and more powerful.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:18 | Link to Comment Clowns on Acid
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Thw White Hispanic says that the White Negro and his light skinned African American Atty General fucked him and now he can't get a job. This is the way one has to communicate in order to get a shovel ready Gov't job. 

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:14 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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from wilson, fdr, truman, kennedy, obama... etel, the power broker organizations owned them outright, along with certain individuals (Dem's & GOP altogether:    ***

Ps. This is how 'no names' get elected in a free country...


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:05 | Link to Comment stant
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"a failure wraped in a disaster in the midst of a collapse". this is a quote from one of the zh guys here

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 01:42 | Link to Comment BeetleBailey
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5 Years Later - What Did Obama's "American Recovery & Reinvestment Act" Achieve?


they got FUCKED

SOME cunts got rich (Wankin Banks, the Elite. O-Buddies, and various other vermin - the MIC and all their cunts that work for them).





Tue, 02/18/2014 - 02:42 | Link to Comment newbie vampire
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It made the uber rich richer. What else was it supposed to achieve ?  You mean like create jobs ?   Where have you been the last 5 years ?

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 02:59 | Link to Comment Woodyg
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The author seems to mistake Keynesian theory with corruption and graft -
But that's easier than naming actual NAMES of the the kleptocrats and oligarchs who stole it all -
Te actual amount that went to true stimulus is probably about 10-15% of total $ spent.
It's upwards redistributionist policy moving wealth to the top .01% all the while calling it 'saving the middle class' -
Orwell would be proud - and so would mussillini

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 03:55 | Link to Comment FreedomGuy
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The phrase "Spending us into oblivion" takes on real meaning.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 04:10 | Link to Comment TheRideNeverEnds
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So what if it costs us $19.90 for each dollar of economic growth?   We will make up for it in volume... 

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 09:44 | Link to Comment d edwards
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But all of 0bozo's friends have made out like the bandits that they are.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 06:53 | Link to Comment damicol
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Of course you can argue with that kind of logic.


The next time anyone espouses such drivel you immediately and without warning, kick them almost as hard as you can in the bollox.

When they climb from thier knees  groaning, just ask them if the stimulus package you delivered is wiorking.

 Then kick them in the bollox again this time with every sinew of your body behind that kick.

 Then tell then to tell you that it still wasnt enough.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 11:02 | Link to Comment eaglerock
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I tried using this logic when I lost all that money in Vegas, said it was because I didn't gamble enough money.  My wife didn't buy it.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 11:24 | Link to Comment rwe2late
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 There is a qualitative aspect as well as a quantitative aspect.

The government wasting funds in the same old way on the same old programs,

won't do squat.

Spending on militarism, spying, ZeroCare, pork-barrel payoffs, and bankster largesse won't do squat.

Instead, a proper investment in infrastructure (e.g. electrical grid, water supply and waste disposal, etc) will be worthwhile.

A shift from promoting military research instead to civilian research.

Creation of an old style CCC program to upgrade parks etc. will do good.

Stop wasting resources on a counter-productive criminal-creating faked "war on drugs".


Stop conflating the self-serving misdirected abuse of government power by a myopic elite,

with the proper use of government for the general good.

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