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The Devil's 2014 Missive To His Minions

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Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith of OfTwoMinds blog,

The Devil pens a motivational letter to his minions in America.

Through means I am unable to disclose, I have obtained a copy of the Devil's New Year's missive to his minions in America. Though it appears He delivered his letter on January 1, it has taken me until after Lunar New Year to obtain a copy. The Devil's gleeful anticipation of America's ruination by 2015 should give us pause.


To my fallen angels Beelzebub, Lucifer and Leviathan, princes of Hell's demons, and to my minions, lackeys, toadies and sycophants in America:As you know, the new year usually finds me quite despondent, as the Prince of Peace's influence waxes most atrociously around his birthday. But this year I am in fine spirits, nay, let me even declare myself absolutely giddy, for the destruction of the United States of America draws ever nearer.

Though my minions have long sown festering seeds of hate and disharmony in that now-benighted land, only recently have my favored weapons of destruction--leverage, debt, half-truths and endless, preening justifications for self-aggrandizement, greed, sloth, lust, pride, envy, anger and gluttony--have been unleashed to worm their way into the stricken heart of that Republic.
My most treasured hopes of destitution and conflict in the U.S.A. are nearing fruition.

First, my minions in the Federal Reserve--such loyal servants!--and the Federal government have continued to flood the land with leverage and debt, spreading the seeds of destruction under the false guise of prosperity. What a delicious irony, that the fools doomed to eternal damnation in my Empire believe themselves prosperous as they absorb the poison of exponentially rising leverage, debt and phantom collateral.

They have made a mockery of the rule of law, openly flouting "no one is above the law" by letting financial crimes go not just unpunished but rewarded. There are two sets of laws and two sets of books now firmly in place, one for the financial Elites and their political toadies, and another one for the tax donkeys beneath them. This blatant injustice that roams the land like a foul, slobbering beast will eventually ignite the firestorm I seek.

American extravagance has surpassed even my highest expectations, as purveyors of luxury goods reap record profits, and the childish desire for instant gratification has become the unspoken ruler of the land. Convenience is now worshipped as a god, sitting triumphant beside entitlement, greed and willful ignorance.

Convenience is, as you all know, the name of a peculiarly slick slide into Hell.

One of my favorite sins, gluttony, is running amok, with half of the people groaning under their own weight, sickened and weakened. My loyal minions in the fast-food and packaged food industries have followed my plans to perfection, and my lackeys in the marketing and media have fueled the instant gratification and ignorance which insidiously undermine even the greatest empires.

Pride--oh, how the Americans excel at hubris and pride! The Federal Reserve chair, bless her doomed soul, has declared herself confident about an economy that is nothing but a confidence game. Oh, what joy to hear her lies spoken with such confidence!

The mere thought of the word greed cause me to chuckle delightedly, as the U.S. excels as a haven for greed without bounds, a greed so boundless that the entire universe would be insufficient to satisfy its bankers, hedge fund managers, high-frequency traders, Imperial factotums and politicians. How happy I am to see their greed grease their way into Hell.

I feel like dancing a jig when I hear the unbridled sense of entitlement which has poisoned the American spirit. Cloaking their greed and avarice with rationalizations--"I was promised," "It's my right," "I deserve it"--brings them closer to me and my Domain with every bleated plea for more, more, more. It is wondrous indeed how my secret invention, "free money," debilitates once-independent souls, and places them on a one-way street to servitude.

Anger is now overflowing everywhere, building my empire with every thoughtless word. Politicians rage against each other, the people rage against the politicians, and behind the scenes my servants in the political action committees feed the anger with billions of dollars in campaign donations. How amusing to see the politicos lay claim to noble ideals even as they scramble on their knees to collect the millions tossed at their feet to do my bidding.

Oh yes, my bidding, for their greed, pride and anger are my bidding. By all means, politicians, do my work: give tax breaks to the ultra-wealthy, let financial crimes go unpunished, allow the financial Elites' looting to go unhindered, transfer the wealth earned by the citizens' sweat to the Central State's financial Elites when their trillion-dollar bets go bad--fuel the anger which will tear you from power, and tear the country apart.

I laughed with glee a few years ago when One Beholden To Me announced that he was doing "God's work"--how I love twisting together irony and lies! He fooled no one, of course, for even the most deluded souls know he is doing My Work, not the Lord's, but they are too distracted by games and ginned-up contests to care. Nothing has changed since the corrupt system tasted a whiff of what lies ahead in 2008; oh, how deliciously the lies and the debts are piling ever higher!

Not caring is doing my work, too, of course; in fact, it one of my favorite tools.

The nation bled itself for a decade with unwinnable wars, sacrificing its best youth on the altar of endless war--how can I not rejoice at this orgy of death, destruction and sowing of hate? The feeble liars at the nation's helm print endless sums to fund war and to prop up vile tyrants, but offer nothing for libraries or literacy or the curing of malaria. How can I not rejoice at a nation which finds trillions for war and next to nothing to fight the diseases of the poor residents of former colonies, including that Prince of Disease, ignorance.

As for sloth--that millions are being paid to sit around watching television instead of being productive creates the perfect breeding ground for resentment, malice and envy. How perfect to pay people to sit at home and rot away, with only their discontent and despair for company.

As you know all too well, idle hands end up doing my piecework for free.
It was almost beyond my dreams to find the nation's wealth and politics so dominated by a tiny handful of wealthy financial plutocrats--they are doing my bidding without hindrance, though I see by their troubled sleep that they know where their greed and rationalizations are taking them. To channel the nation's wealth to a few hands--what better way to nurture envy and anger?

If ignorance were treasure, the American political class must be declared wealthier than Midas, for its ignorance has reached a pinnacle I can truly admire. Ensnared by their lust for power, blinded by their greed for fame and perquisites, they look no further than the next election cycle, dooming their nation to division, disharmony and the desolation of permanent conflict over the dwindling productive assets of this once-great nation.

The people cry out to be saved by the government, as if it was a Savior instead of a vast combine chewing through the wealth of the nation, "investing" it in corruption, parasitic financial Elites, military misadventures, Homeland "Security"--ha, isn't that a jewel, as the nation withers from within--and the steady, unyielding oppression of the remaining productive members of society.

When the people cheer "We're number One," I cheer with them, for pride goeth before a fall. When they believe the half-truths, the illusions, the mispresentations, the misdirections and yes, the outright lies of the ruling class repeated by their toadies in the media, I can no longer restrain my delight, for lies and half-truths are my favored weapons of destruction. The leaders are themselves leaderless, blank, hollowed-out souls doing the bidding of their parasitic masters, focused only on keeping the corrupt and venal status quo together for a few more months, never looking out ten years.

Their worship of greed and self-aggandizement is worship of Me, and their frantic efforts to prop up pseudo-democracy and pseudo-free markets serve Me most effectively.

I delight in shortsightedness, an abject fear of change and transformation, the clinging to failure and pride, and the refusal to face reality.

For the U.S.A. is now an Empire of Debt and Lies, its fraudulent financial system built on misrepresentations of risk and value, and its "economy of confidence" a con game based on illusory wealth, parasitic skimming, government gaming and tax donkeys paying for their Financial Masters' idiotic mistakes.

This adolescent desire to believe the lies, because in believing the lies then nothing need change--this might be my most powerful destructive tool.
A hunger for fantasy and illusion, a fear of adaptation, a childish demand for instant gratification--these are forces I can rely on to lead the once-great country to absolute ruin.

And here is the beautifully evil part, my minions--no external enemy is required.The Americans are destroying themselves with their reliance on leverage, debt, denial, half-truths and overflowing servings of the Seven Deadly Sins, all of which they have elevated to "assets" in their hopelessly twisted values. To be supremely unproductive, a churner of lies and financial trickery, is now the most rewarded and admired state in America.

The spiritual rot is now so deep and pervasive that the people no longer even recognize the decay --they have been lulled into a false belief that this culture of fraud, embezzlement, manipulations, propaganda and parasitic financial Elites has always held sway. This is precisely how a people act when they have lost their way, spiritually and morally: they elevate sins to virtues, and forget the lessons of their past.

And of course everyone claiming that there is no spiritual vacuum sucking the nation dry, that the status quo is simply "business as usual"--they are doing my work, too, for habituating to all that is corrupt and reprehensible, all that is lacking in integrity and honesty, this is doing my work most admirably.

Americans no longer hate me, they hate sacrifice and honest introspection, with a passion that enlivens my enthusiasm for their self-destruction.

How can I not be pleased this New Year? At long last, the destruction of the United States by its own citizens is close at hand. Give me two years, minions, no more than four, and I shall insure they will finally begin reaping what they have sown.

Ignorance, my poor dear Americans, will not save you, nor will your ceaseless pathetic bleatings of excuses, justifications and rationalizations save you from the rank harvest of what you have so assiduously sown for the past five years. Indeed, your excuses and rationalizations push My poisoned blade deeper into your nation's heart with every lie, every excuse, every frantic justification for your own entitlement.

I await 2014 with high expectations, so crack on, My minions; our goal is within reach.

Most sincerely yours,


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Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:17 | 4446057 VD
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666 biyatchz now & forever & eva (qe4eva that is & # of da Yellen)...

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:41 | 4446124 AlaricBalth
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"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
Albert Einstein

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:45 | 4446136 Abi Normal
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Do you think he meant to say...RELEASE The Kraken??????  

I have some real doubts this year is going to bode well.  I read/responded to the huge Soros put, but them bones, them bones, inside of you....I swear, they are itchin' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:02 | 4446174 Boris Alatovkrap
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No, Kraken is for seamen. Baphomet is for Satan.


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:05 | 4446185 Boris Alatovkrap
Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:07 | 4446195 Boris Alatovkrap
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Ooops again, here is servant of Satan...


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:09 | 4446204 Boris Alatovkrap
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Ooops, is hand maiden of Satan... here is puppet-in-chief...


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:35 | 4446274 fonestar
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Satoshi shall rule all.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:12 | 4446371 National Blessing
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I always thought George Clooney was the devil.  I don't know why. 

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 03:35 | 4447200 manofthenorth
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Coming generations will learn equality from poverty, and love from woes.
Khalil Gibran

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 09:12 | 4447468 GetZeeGold
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First point of Bernie Madoff.


Put that Corzine kid on it.....kinda like his style.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:18 | 4447693 Bendromeda Strain
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Well done Charles, but a hit tip or "with apologies to" C.S. Lewis (The Screwtape Letters) might have been appropriate.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 14:55 | 4449064 NickVegas
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Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:27 | 4446252 Lumberjack
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Boris, remember those cave paintings you mentioned?

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 01:43 | 4447058 Boris Alatovkrap
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Mr. Jack,

You are familiar with Cave Painting? Is proof sky is be falling since time is memorial. Ice Age 1979 = Global Warming 2000 = Climate Change 2010. Boris is exhaustion from wacko floating theory!

There are three people kind. First is worry about everything, second is mobilize first, third is ignore first and second. Pray there are more third than first or second.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 06:46 | 4447294 Truthseeker2
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If I Were the Devil
by Paul Harvey


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:15 | 4446375 Abi Normal
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LOL, Boris is have it covered, is tip of iceburg, ya?

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:27 | 4446752 LMAOLORI
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Boris you are going to be put on a watch list movie makers can't even use actors that look like the Obamamessiah


'SON OF GOD' Cuts Satan Scenes After Obama Look-Alike Controversy...

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 00:34 | 4446927 dcohen
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Here is SatanYahoo making the Satanic Sign

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:46 | 4446137 knukles
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Toldja this shit was the Devil's Own Work, Land of Armageddon, End of Days, Revelations, the Coming of the Anti-Christ.
Believe it or not, you're actually there, motherfuckers!


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:54 | 4446151 Abi Normal
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Knuckles, it could very well be, and quite time to get the final affairs in order!

God Bless America, Land of the Free...

Maybe I lose a few readers with the God reference, but them thar is my beliefs!  But that is ok, if you part there!

Dang, we have a serial junker, for reals.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:06 | 4446179 Au_Ag_CuPbCu
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"...have been unleashed to worm their way into the stricken heart of that Republic er rather Fascist state."  Damn, not even the Devil  can get it straight.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:07 | 4446360 The Gooch
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I Sell Shoes! (or derivatives)

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:18 | 4446226 boogerbently
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The "non-believers" are looking more foolish, daily, for what they DO believe in.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:30 | 4446261 shovelhead
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Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:55 | 4446328 fonestar
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fonestar is not the type of virtual man to make outlandish statements, but Bitcoin is the greatest thing ever and anyone who so much as doubts Bitcoin should be executed.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:16 | 4446379 Abi Normal
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ROFLMAO...the hell you say?  bitcoin?  bwahahahahhaha, if your heavy into it, just kiss it goodbye!

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:14 | 4446530 lickspitler
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Bitcoin is not for pussys

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:26 | 4446571 logicalman
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Can you pay for pussy with BitCoin?

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 05:34 | 4447266 satoshi411
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You can BONE a virtual HO, in fonestar's world, ...

The ONLY folks on earth that have turned over FRN's for BTC's is nerds, and by definiton that only pussy that nerds ever see, is that which they see on the internet.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:34 | 4446594 Annoyingserf
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There's a flaw in your reasoning.....I've yet to meet a socially repressed, basement dweller who wasn't a pussy.  

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:03 | 4446354 The Duke of Skiatook
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Land of the Free . . . My ass!

I can put up with the silliness of your religion but if you believe this is still the "Land of the Free" then I have no use for you.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:17 | 4446381 Abi Normal
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We still have a couple fella, we're not quite dead yet! C'mon, have a little faith...err, guts!

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 01:44 | 4447063 willwork4food
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Right on. When TSHTF I have hopes the military and local police will have enough balls to know they've been had.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 05:32 | 4447265 satoshi411
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The system is hard-wired for retirement checks forever.

The only way you can win over the COP/MIL is to convice him that the PTB money is no good, and ergo his pension is zilch.

Good luck convincing him that, since the 1990's they only select morons to to carry guns in law enforcement.

Modern USA law enforcement are like ROBOT soldiers, they just fucking follow orders and wait for donuts and coffee.


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:48 | 4446312 BurningFuld
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Pretty sure they said the same thing in the year 1000 too.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:25 | 4446569 Hulk
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Messianic Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, the Harbinger, America's financial collapse in 2015?

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:23 | 4446565 logicalman
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Anywhere is dangerous to live.

You are only at risk of dying when you are alive.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 01:46 | 4447069 willwork4food
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Logically, although that might be true, it's not the point.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:07 | 4446193 sgorem
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The Rolling Stones - Sympathy For The Devil (Live) - OFFICIAL..............."let introduce myself............"yeah baby!
Tue, 02/18/2014 - 17:08 | 4449660 Urban Redneck
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A bunch of crazy bankers with primo tickets to a Stone's concert on the shareholders' dime... Good Times...

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:17 | 4446060 stant
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your days comin uncle suga

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:23 | 4446076 RaceToTheBottom
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Jaimie is that you?

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:58 | 4446289 LMAOLORI
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Presented with a lot of devilish laughter.


Stop whining! The US economy is in good shape
Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:24 | 4446079 Dr. Venkman
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Markets getting fiesty this evening.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:55 | 4446159 Abi Normal
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And by that you mean???  Please do enlighten??

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:26 | 4446086 GVB
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“The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:56 | 4446162 Abi Normal
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Well now, that was the British he was talking about, and he was right!  American's not so much, but we're getting there, sadly!

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 00:11 | 4446875 Tall Tom
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America is already there and has been since 1913.

I am so sorry that you don't see that.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 00:14 | 4446886 Abi Normal
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Like I said, we're not dead yet...the Brits...errr well, long since.  But you are right, we have been assailed since 1913...thanks Woodrow (you bastard)!

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:27 | 4446091 john39
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Michael Hoffman on usury...

once upon a time, Christians considered usury a terrible sin.  Most of Islam still does.  The proof of the wisdom of this prohibition should be self evident to anyone with a functioning brain.


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:24 | 4446245 shovelhead
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Islam also says that if you screw your goat, you have to sell it in the next village.


So, there's always that.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:52 | 4446658 satoshi411
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Now if you screw your goat, they make you marry her.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:32 | 4446104 BiteMeBO
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Give it to me harder Uncle Sam!  Yes!  Yes!!  Yes!!!

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:57 | 4446106 Abi Normal
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Two to four years huh???????? hmmm, shall we just take a peek at the Ukraine, Venezuela and Argentina...not to mention Greece, etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  China is leveraged up, and so are we, the chaos is about to spread, like wildfire! It looks like there is another spring coming in I dunno Mr. Devil, maybe your timetable, and storyline is just a bit off, shall we say.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:17 | 4446730 IridiumRebel
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Bosnia is starting to re-shit the bed and Scotland is trying to take their oil away from Merry ol England via secession. Turkey? Thailand?

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:43 | 4446807 Abi Normal
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Too bloody true...let's no forget Connecticut, NY and Maryland, all wanting to form separate state...well not Conn yet, but it will come!

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:48 | 4446142 Seize Mars
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No external enemies necessary? Quite sure about that? I think there are a hell if a lot of foreigners involved in the attack on my country.
It was done by foreigners, on purpose who knew exactly what they were doing. Fiat money is not an accident. It's a bludgeon.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:54 | 4446154 JustPrintMoreDuh
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BTW Satan ... You've got nothing on Hillary you PUSSY!

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:58 | 4446166 Abi Normal
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Hitlary "What diffrence does it make now" Cwimpton

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:51 | 4446655 satoshi411
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Hillary 2016 HELL ON EARTH a New Beginning


I agree the Devil doesn't even know the definition of suffering, or torture.

HILLARY the Hun will devestate all, and all that remain of ameriKKKa will be ugly nazi feminazi bitches, all the so called men who fight will be sent to 'camp-fema', all land held by white men, will be transferred to the Lesbian Troops,

A new feudalism is coming to ameriKKKa and your gun's don't mean shit.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:46 | 4446813 Abi Normal
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Satoshi, man you are confusing me here...on another article you are anti-jew, right wing, blah blah....but here you bash the left's best 'hope' my head is on a swivel????

I am at a loss...

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 05:28 | 4447261 satoshi411
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Young Frankenstein, I'm a fucking ANARCHIST.

I hate  all fucking gubmint, I hate anybody that would even take a nickel from uncle-sam, that's why I hate Ron Paul. That means if you ever worked for GUBMINT, sucked sam-cock, or welfare-HO, ... or cop its all same.

"The essence of ALL GUBMINT is beating, killing, and Imprisoning".

I love left-wing Hebrew, salt of the earth, I hate right wing LIKUD fuck-nuts ( Zionists ) the scourge of the earth.

I like SOROS, he say's that ISRAEL has made us all PALESTINIANS, ... god damn fucking right.


I hate all GUBMINT on the face of the earth. Period.


Tue, 02/18/2014 - 08:26 | 4447394 Abi Normal
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Fair enough then, you have that right!  Survival of the fittest huh?  I sure hope you are prepared!

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:54 | 4446155 css1971
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You know, there's no devil in the (canonical) bible? And what there is of a devil character, isn't "evil".

The devil is a convenient place for the lazy to put their personal responsibilities. Might be a better message to be spreading. (the world is the way it is because you are lazy and ignorant, having shirked your responsibilities)

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:04 | 4446180 Abi Normal
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Ummmmmm, I beg to differ, please let me point this out to you:

biblical canon, or canon of scripture,[1] is a list of books considered to be authoritative scripture by a particular religious community. The word "canon" comes from the Greek "?????", meaning "rule" or "measuring stick". The term was first coined in reference to scripture by Christians, but the idea is said to be Jewish.[2]

So the Bible KJV is a canonical bible...correct?  Just not your head up and down. And read the following:

Bible Verses About Satan Bible verses related to Satan from the King James Version (KJV) by Relevance


1 John 3:8 - He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

1 Peter 5:8 - Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

John 8:44 - Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

2 Corinthians 11:3 - But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Revelation 12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

2 Corinthians 4:4 - In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

John 14:30 - Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Hebrews 2:14 - Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Luke 10:18 - And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Ephesians 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

John 12:31 - Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

John 10:10 - The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.

Matthew 16:23 - But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Revelation 20:2 - And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Revelation 9:11 - And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon.

1 Thessalonians 3:5 - For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain.

Romans 16:20 - And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with you. Amen.

John 16:11 - Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

Luke 22:31 - And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired [to have] you, that he may sift [you] as wheat:

Matthew 13:39 - The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

Job 1:6 - Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Acts 26:18 - To open their eyes, [and] to turn [them] from darkness to light, and [from] the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Psalms 109:6 - Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.

Job 1:7 - And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

1 Chronicles 21:1 - And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Revelation 3:9 - Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

1 Timothy 1:20 - Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

2 Thessalonians 2:9 - [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Colossians 1:13 - Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Ephesians 6:11-16 - Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.   (Read More...)

Ephesians 2:2 - Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Acts 5:3 - But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back [part] of the price of the land?

John 13:27 - And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.

Luke 11:15 - But some of them said, He casteth out devils through Beelzebub the chief of the devils.

Mark 1:13 - And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.

Matthew 13:38 - The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked [one];

Matthew 13:19 - When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth [it] not, then cometh the wicked [one], and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

Matthew 12:43 - When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.

Genesis 3:4 - And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

Revelation 20:10 - And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelation 20:1-3 - And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.  (Read More...)

Revelation 12:9-12 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.   (Read More...)

James 4:7 - Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

1 Thessalonians 2:18 - Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us.

Ephesians 4:27 - Neither give place to the devil.

2 Corinthians 2:11 - Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

Luke 11:21 - When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:

Luke 11:18 - If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

Mark 4:15 - And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Ezekiel 28:1-26 - The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,   (Read More...)

Isaiah 14:12 - How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Job 1:9-12 - Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?   (Read More...)

Genesis 3:14 - And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Revelation 2:13 - I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, [even] where Satan's seat [is]: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas [was] my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

Revelation 1:1-20 - The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified [it] by his angel unto his servant John:   (Read More...)

Jude 1:6-9 - And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.   (Read More...)

2 Peter 2:4 - For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

1 Peter 5:9 - Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

1 Corinthians 7:5 - Defraud ye not one the other, except [it be] with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

Luke 8:12 - Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

Mark 3:22 - And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.

Matthew 4:1-11 - Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.   (Read More...)

Isaiah 14:1-32 - For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.   (Read More...)

Job 2:3-7 - And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that [there is] none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.   (Read More...)

1 Kings 22:22 - And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade [him], and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

1 Kings 11:14 - And the LORD stirred up an adversary unto Solomon, Hadad the Edomite: he [was] of the king's seed in Edom.

Revelation 20:8 - And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea.

Revelation 20:7 - And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Revelation 12:10 - And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Revelation 12:3 - And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Revelation 2:24 - But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

Jude 1:9 - Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

1 John 3:12 - Not as Cain, [who] was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

1 John 3:10 - In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

1 John 2:13 - I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him [that is] from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.

2 Timothy 2:26 - And [that] they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

1 Timothy 5:15 - For some are already turned aside after Satan.

1 Timothy 3:7 - Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

1 Timothy 3:6 - Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 - For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Colossians 2:15 - [And] having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Philippians 2:8 - And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

2 Corinthians 12:7 - And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

2 Corinthians 11:15 - Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

2 Corinthians 6:15 - And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

1 Corinthians 14:33 - For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

1 Corinthians 6:2-3 - Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?   (Read More...)

1 Corinthians 5:1 - It is reported commonly [that there is] fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

Romans 10:13 - For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Acts 13:10 - And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, [thou] child of the devil, [thou] enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

John 14:6-7 - Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.   (Read More...)

John 13:2 - And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's [son], to betray him;

John 8:41 - Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, [even] God.

John 8:38 - I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

Luke 23:46 - And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Luke 22:53 - When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

Luke 13:16 - And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?

Luke 4:6 - And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.


Just pointing out your fallacy, carry on brother.  Peace.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:17 | 4446222 NemoDeNovo
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Um not to be a nit-picker, but there are some serious doubts about the validity of 'the Bible', but YMMV, especially when it comes to the Council of Nicea, I mean are we to beLIEve that there were not "Political" reasons some of the writings of Men were choosen for that book.  But hey we all do have Free Will to know or choose to remain ignorant.  Have a Nice Day :)

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:58 | 4446338 livid levity
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Really?  What are your "validity" doubts?  Be specific.  Council of Nicea, huh...hmm, is that when the "Bible" started coming together?
Not to be a nit-picker but you have no idea about what you are talking about.  And indeed we do all have free-will - and all are free to choose your brand of ignorance just as well.  Have a nice day.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 07:35 | 4447325 lakecity55
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It does not matter what was decided by the Council. God arranged to have what He wanted posted in the Bible.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:26 | 4446395 Abi Normal
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Prove it is fallacy or a lie?  Please do be specific? True the canon (bringing together) of the Bible happened on 323 AD in Nicea.  Because some books were left out at the time, that were considered questionable, or even as you say for political reasons, does NOT make the essence a lie.

I got news for the non-believers in this world...ready?

If you are right, then neither of us have a problem, but if the Bible is right, you got a world of hurt coming your way.  Can't have it both ways right, mr age of reason, mr logic?

Still, I love everyone the same, as a brother or sister of Christ.  We are ALL EQUAL in our sin, but if you believe in Jesus Christ, repent of your sins, and turn your back on them, love one another, man, you will have Salvation everlasting.  I mean, we spend a blink of an eye here, why screw that up?

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 09:10 | 4447467 Global Observer
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Would you consider Muslims non-believers? If they are right, you are in a lot of trouble. It is next to impossible to become a believer in a certain brand of religion just to hedge your bets.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 11:40 | 4448053 pot_and_kettle
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Hmm.... The founder is credited with marrying a 9 year old. they're cool with child molestation


And among other things:


They believe that the " infidel " should be killed or tortured if he/she doesn't convert...

They believe they should inflict gang rape on underage girls for improper conduct with a male - based on a male's accusations... 

They believe they should publicly whip those who commit the crime of alcohol consumption...

They believe they should behead people on camera for public consumption.


So yeah, they're totally believers


But in *who*?? 



Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:33 | 4446592 logicalman
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The Bible.

The New Testament? A fairytale rewritten dozens of times to suit the 'powers that be' at the time.

The old testament, an incredibly violent and deviant book. Everyone should read it. If there is a window into the soul of humanity, I think that might be it.

Frightening, at a minimum.


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:51 | 4446831 Abi Normal
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When you die, you will regret writing what you just did...and living the life of a lie!  Ignorance is bliss I guess.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 11:59 | 4448178 pot_and_kettle
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he/she is either trolling you or is not able to listen.  Any frustration it provokes simply feeds it and its posts will continue.  Don't add fuel is my advice.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 01:01 | 4446974 Tall Tom
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The New Testament is not a fantasy. And you are correct that the Old Testament, as well as the New, is a window into the soul of humanity and it is the very reason, the essence, about why Christ Jesus is necessary.


While we are at this...


Taking the physical variables into account, what is the likelihood of a universe giving us life coming into existence by coincidence? One in billions of billions? Or trillions of trillions of trillions? Or more?

Roger Penrose*, a famous British mathematician [physicist] and a close friend of Stephen Hawking, wondered about this question and tried to calculate the probability. Including what he considered to be all variables required for human beings to exist and live on a planet such as ours, he computed the probability of this environment occurring among all the possible results of the Big Bang.

According to Penrose, the odds against such an occurrence were on the order of 1010123 to 1.


This is an extraordinary figure. One could not possibly even write the number down in full in the ordinary denary notation: it would be 1 followed by 10123 successive 0's. Even if we were to write a 0 on each separate proton and on each separate neutron in the entire universe- and we could throw in all the other particles for good measure- we should fall far short of writing down the figure needed.

It is so close to an Infinitesimal it might as well be an Infinitesimal. Your wager against a Creator is ABSOLUTELY IRRATIONAL AND ILLOGICAL. As a winning gambler I do not bet on long odds.

Thus you might want to consider that the Odds for Creation is (1 - 1010123 ) to 1. And since (1 - 1010123 ) is so very close to one then, for all practical purposes, it can be considered 1, and since a One to One Probability is a CERTAINTY...

Then it follows that the Universe was Created.


But YOU abandon LOGIC, opt for the IRRATIONAL, because you refuse to abandon your sin...whatever that may be.


Yes it is frightening...TO YOU.


When I read the Bible I read words of Forgiveness and Redemption through Grace.


But when you read the Bible then you read words of condemnation and damnation.


I know that I am NO BETTER THAN YOU. I am not worse than YOU.


But I am saved through Grace and my Redeemer Lives.


That violent and deviant book just serves to demonstrate just how lost humanity is...WITHOUT CHRIST.


I will continue to pray for all whom I encounter on ZH.


Now I will expect a discourse of Infinite Universes, a Multiverse. Of course it is no longer Science but speculation at that point. Infinity is an abomination to Physicists since it means that we do not know as it lacks any definition..


I am an EMPIRICIST and I describe the Universe which I know.


But I will entertain that speculation as it is fascinating....a fantasy.


If there is a Multiverse then what created that? If you answer that it has always been then I can accept that. Is the name of your God, "Multiverse"? Believing in a Multiverse just smacks of Blind Faith Religion. There is no redemption in that.


Tue, 02/18/2014 - 05:35 | 4447267 chindit13
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Leaping Lizard (people)!

Just for kicks, let’s take your Roger Penrose numbers and assume for a moment that they represent fact.

The leap from that number to YOUR particular god and His pure love and goodness is a little hazy.  Toss in an afterlife country club with a discriminating door policy and hazy turns to Beijing on a bad air day.   Seems to me you are speculating.  Come on, admit it.  You must abandon any claim to logic when you try to distill "grace". "redemption", and "forgiveness" from a number.  How do you know your god isn't like the kid who pulls wings off a fly, a vastly superior, but flawed being, who gets kicks by preying on the powerless?

I’m all for Pascal’s Wager, too, but he only handicapped one horse in the race.  Penrose's number doesn't even prove there's a ONE and not a Creation Committee, so you don't even make it passed the mono-polygod mark.  Even within the ranks of the monotheists, it’s a damn big field, and all the fillies are frisky.  Temperamental, too, so I don’t think any of Them would be satisfied by my saying a Penrose by any other name would smell as omnipotent.   I’ll bet you can find a billion Moslems and a billion Hindus who might also embrace Penrose and leap into their own particular wishful thinkings about the nature of existence.  How are you and YOUR god any more right, based merely on your Penrose number, than the imam at the madrassah who says, “Penrose said ten to the ba-ba-bazillion squared to one, so therefore your 72 virgins are guaranteed if you walk into a crowded vegetable market and set off your explosive vest”?  That iman just isn’t going to accept Allah as merely kabir; it’s akbar or it’s death to the infidel.

Personally, since I reached maturity I’ve been a Zeusian.  Or is it Zeusish?  He and his lot always struck me as being nice but nasty, loving but vindictive, mature but impish, which is to say the myth surrounding them much more accurately reflects the universe as it actually exists, not the cut-Him-some-slack Master Plan-ery afforded the more mainstream supreme beings.  On the one hand Apollo will help you pass your math exams, but Poseidon will toss a tsunami around the rim of the Indian Ocean.  Apollo might also heal what ails you, but he’s just as likely to join up with Artemis and toss a little childhood cancer your way.  Ares can unleash a little Hell, but survive it and you can hit the weekend party circuit (catered by Dionysus), especially if Aphrodite is going to show up.  She’s a babe, too.  Talk about hardbodies.

Yes, the Penrose number is just the stepping off point.  After that, all bets are on.


Tue, 02/18/2014 - 06:00 | 4447277 satoshi411
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All these guys have come back to admit they were wrong.

Einstein admitted he  was wrong on his greatest theory, Penrose was wrong and lately Hawkins has admitted he was wrong.


Long ago a astrophysicists, did some similar math, how many similar earth like planetoids in universe and solar system, and how many of them are similar to an earth such as ours? How many are close to a similar sun? How many have similar Gravitation?

It's  fairly large number,

The above number makes it sound like HUMANS are unique, that fact is there are probably millions of similar earth-like planets with 'life', trouble is they're all billion's of light years away...

So fucking what?

Humans will most likely make this planet inhabitiable within the next 100 years, ... even if we waited billions of years to say HI, and then another for a visit or verse a vice, .. what fucking difference, if in 100 years the cock-roach known as man is long fucking gone.

Me thinks this subject is like arguing how many angels can dance on a needle, ... so fucking what?

Are human's special? NO, Are there 'better' species hell yes, ... will we ever know them, or they know us? Hell no.


A better metric would be estimating how long man can survive on the planet at the current rate of destruction, my guess is that man's survival rate goes near zero anything out past 100 years,...

Which is WHY the rich are so hell bent on MASS GENOCIDE, to get the population down to a few million on earth.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 08:31 | 4447399 Abi Normal
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Amen brothers...ever read Halley's Bible dictionary?  In it describes legions of athiests who went to the middle east to discredit the a man they all converted to Christianity.

Read it and you will be amazed! 

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 19:58 | 4446165 BadDog
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The Screwtape Letters for modern day America.  How appropriate. Now,  I think I'll dust off my copy of Paradise Lost and cheer myself up.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:57 | 4446851 easypoint
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I wonder in which government position screwtape is now employed. He wasn't smart or experienced enough to work at the Fed, but would easily be up to the task of turning a politician.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 22:41 | 4446167 J S Bach
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Wow.  I thought Satan was the Father of Lies... but here he has actually written the truth.


I was rather expecting a prideful mention of his recent claims to a number of bankster souls who were conveniently "suicided".  Maybe in Part II.


Remember though... when an old, withered and decrepit forest finally burns to the ground, a healthier one always springs anew.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:01 | 4446172 satoshi411
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Devils ask for more votes Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes
Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:23 | 4446242 satoshi411
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Tom Perkins tells us about the 1%'s vision of a New America Fabius Maximus (blog)‎ - 16 minutes ago “Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes“, CNN, 14 February 2014 — Tom Perkins speaking at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco.   A strategy of voter exclusion Portland Daily Sun‎ - 16 minutes ago Let's consider the recent public statement by venture capitalist Tom Perkins proposing that amounts paid in taxes should determine number of votes that an ...  


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:10 | 4446205 fattail
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1 star.  

No need to drag religion into this.  My experience is that the non-religious are the most self aware, most open minded, most educated, and understand dire straits the country is in.  The religious folks tend to want someone (big GOV)to save them, or buy into the false choices of red or blue.

BTW the military is not filled with "the best and brightest", and the "best youth" were not sacrificed in the endless war.   Another lie perpetuated to breed the false nationalism necessary to grease the wheels of the war machine.   

If I remember correctly they were getting $10-30K to sign on and to re-up after their tour was done.  More like "the most desperate" were sacrificed for endless war.  But as long as there is a steady supply of desperate young men there will be no need for a draft, and the upper and middle class will not have to consider sacrificing their sons for the empire.  


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:35 | 4446273 swmnguy
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If we had a universal draft anti-war sentiment would have crashed the military-industrial-congressional complex by now.  So instead we have an economic draft, and we pay foreigners with promises of Green Cards.  Just as the Roman Empire did eventually, when their upper and middle classes tired of throwing their sons into the wars fomented by their ultra-elites.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:38 | 4446607 logicalman
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War is a racket - Smedley Butler.

Research it.

Everyone has a skill that can benefit those around him/her. The trick is finding it and appreciating it.

A world where people tried to help others would be a much more pleasant place to live than one where everyone is out to screw everyone else.

The problem arises when a person thinks they are better than another.

I'm not better than another, just different.

Take me as I am, or fuck off, and leave me alone.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:28 | 4446401 Abi Normal
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I would take exception about being more or less educated, that is another generalization, of which you cannot prove one way or another, so it is your opinion.  I am sad you have only met 10 people in your life, sigh!?

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 00:53 | 4446969 WAMO556
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I am not sure what you base your information on, but I do believe that your sentiment is without a doubt full of manure.

Bachelors of Science and Arts, Masters and even a Phd in occult religions. And...we know how to shoot, move and communicate...and hunt bad guys. What do you know how to do?

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:12 | 4446211 pot_and_kettle
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Not quite Screwtape, but it'll do nicely :-)

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:19 | 4446228 satoshi411
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Mt-Gox Owned by Satan, so Say's Satoshi ... $200 today $2 tomorrow

Troubled Mt. Gox says Bitcoin exchange will resume 'soon' Los Angeles Times‎ - 4 hours ago Leading Bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox apologized on Monday for a 10-day disruption that has prevented customers from exchanging the virtual ...

Bitcoin Touches $220 On Formerly Dominant Exchange MtGox ... Business Insider
MtGox claims to have a fix ready for Bitcoin withdrawal woes Register
Bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox plans to resume withdrawals soon CNET

Hotel California aka Bitcoin, was always an easy place to get in, but Satan never assumed that you would leave with your money.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:22 | 4446236 TahoeBilly2012
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Hollywood has made us a better, stronger, more honest and educated nation. Just watch the award shows and you will see how proud they are of their "artistic enlightenment"....

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:24 | 4446246 exartizo
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...the most important point you missed Tyler(s) is that God and his son Jesus Christ REGULARLY KICK THE DEVILS ASS, and one day the Devil will get what's coming to him.

And though I know them, I don't need any long scripture references to tell you that Truth.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:29 | 4446403 Abi Normal
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Amen, to pit Satan will go, but before that happens a lot of suffering!

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:40 | 4446610 logicalman
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Is it comfortble to be delusional?

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:54 | 4446841 Abi Normal
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You won't be very comfy very soon...pucker up now, son of satan!

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 01:22 | 4447018 Tall Tom
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It is not his fault that he does not understand the Mathematics of Probability. You must forgive him for that.


His username is indicative of his underlying pride and arrogance.


He will be broken. I have faith that many will be broken before all is said and done.


He will find what he seeks.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:27 | 4446255 The Wisp
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I notice that everything bad is going to happen in Just Two Years ( or less ) just once i would like to read, Tomorrow when you wake up, or by the end of the week, all hell will be knocking at your door..  I mean in two years maybe horses will fly and the King will have forgotten he asked me to make it so..  there is a funny Line in an Old country Song, regarding Prohibition.. The Foreigner is describing America during that time..

  The Country Was Dryer than the Devil's Tongue on Judgement day..  Me thinks the Devil is Starting to Get real Thirsty Folks

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:38 | 4446286 swmnguy
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Yes, the Just Two Years (or less) timing is a staple of doomer predictions.  While I like Mr. Smith's writing quite a lot, and I believe in the essence of most doomer predictions, the timing is always the problem.  It turns out that many of the most dire predictions from 6 or so years ago have actually come to pass; it just wasn't nearly as dramatic as we had thought.  The vastness and sheer wealth of the USA is confounding.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:50 | 4446318 lasvegaspersona
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All that talk of satan but not one  mention of demon weed....hmmm...perhaps it is covered as a precursor to gluttony...

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:51 | 4446320 RideTheWalrus
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I thought Satan was a choreographer for the MTV awards?


Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:24 | 4446396 22winmag
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No... the Academy Awards, and he did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night!

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 20:58 | 4446339 Doug
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Hey, what's on the Cooking Channel tonight?

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:33 | 4446414 Jendrzejczyk
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Dried California parsnips dusted with red clay and a cactus pannini SANDwich.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:12 | 4446372 wisehiney
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<---------California legislature pubicly prays for rain.

<---------California legislature thanks devil for the nice dry warmth. 

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:02 | 4446497 NoWayJose
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Funny how the government only allows God to show up in times of need, while doing everything possible o remove God when things are going well...

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:39 | 4446432 mobius8curve
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If you only knew how close this is:

Revelation 12:9-12  And the great dragon was cast down, the old serpent, he that is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world; he was cast down to the earth, and his angels were cast down with him.  (10)  And I heard a great voice in heaven, saying, Now is come the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who accuseth them before our God day and night.  (11)  And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony; and they loved not their life even unto death.  (12)  Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe for the earth and for the sea: because the devil is gone down unto you, having great wrath, knowing that he hath but a short time.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 21:58 | 4446483 NoWayJose
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Give the devil his due... But remember, he has worked his will and brought down many other countries throughout the ages... Yet a unique country began in 1776 - one that believed in God, freedom, and individual responsibility... That country learned from the mistakes made earlier by other countries who had let the Devil in... and while that country has lost it's way today, there are enough who still believe... the devil will win the next round, but in doing so he will tear down his own works, and will show the believers what needs to be fixed... For the next time...

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:28 | 4446579 Georgia_Boy
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It's like ZH on acid.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 22:41 | 4446615 logicalman
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The shortage of rational thought in this thread is truly scary.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 00:11 | 4446876 Abi Normal
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I wish there was a shortage of you on this thread, illogical-pencilneck!

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 01:45 | 4447066 Tall Tom
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He needs to be here. I want him here. How can his IRRATIONALITY be thrown in his face?


I wish I had been in the discussion earlier.



Tue, 02/18/2014 - 05:07 | 4447250 Rising Sun
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huffington post - go there, NOW!!!!

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:27 | 4446755 IridiumRebel
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ZeroHedge has found a new click generator. Godless America.
Michael Snyder? I'm looking at you.....

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:46 | 4446812 Reaper
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We should thank him for the truth. Our government is the lie.

Mon, 02/17/2014 - 23:55 | 4446844 Flamin Rhoid
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Wait till Patrick the Heretic gets hold of this one.I for one can't wait.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 02:28 | 4447124 janus
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convivial greetings CHS, Citizens of ZeroOpolis & those the rest of you casting about our digital domain...janus conveys the sincerest of fraternal greetings to his brothers in Christ and/or those who worship in spirit & Truth (even though you may -- regrettably -- affix another name to the object of your innermost and especially sacred endeavors).  i transmit good vibrations from the snow-smothered land of nipple-splitting cold; and i do so imbued with a certainty and confidence that things are quickly turning (and quicker still) -- 'things' in this case being the imbalance of Good & evil...and for the clueless and incurious among you, the scoreboard has for so long now reflected a grim and unseemly slaughter of the innocents.

quite literally, a bloodbath without borders...and we've moped about doing what, exactly?  voting? 


but times are changing; and along with them are the thinking, methods and practical calculus of the is assuming a clarity, focus and sharpness unseen in many an aeon.  and i like it!    

as for janus and how he fits into all this, i'm going to now use mr. Hugh-Smith's post and do something i ever-so rarely do.  i don't like explaining myself; but i at times feel obliged to do just that...and now that i'm at a certain point with 'things' i feel compelled to satisfy this imagined obligation of mine.

some may relate an ole bromide in saying, "the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was in leading men to believe he didn't exist."  as is generally the case when evaluating the merits of bromides and devils, i say the glass is half-empty -- and whatever's filing the minority of the void is murky and lukewarm. 

i tell you instead, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was in leading men to believe he's the good guy.  and if evil's to thrive and to long on this earth subsist, it must present itself in, by and through all the trappings of 'goodness' -- at least, as far as the world esteems such 'things'.

now, i'm certainly aware that many of you disapprove of my -- ahem -- 'methods' (and for that matter my thinking & practical calculus); but i have my reasons.

my reasoning: why not pull the devil's trick back on him?  there is, after all, no hiding in this world -- there is only camouflage; there is, after all, my intention to speak with authority -- and season it with hilarity; there is, after all, my recognition that i'm no holy-man -- and i don't want anyone getting the wrong ideas.

by way of deception, thou shall do war...indeedily-doodily!

you see, for my part, i don't just want my cup to sit static at a notch past half-full; i want my cup to runneth over with Living Waters...that i may thirst no more.  selah.

Christ invited us to test the spirits...we are not commanded, and that's an important distinction.  janus does not advise any to do this; as i can report that you will find on the other side every vile thing you may expect (and then some).  but i will at the very least say this much: evil can be so very naive (heh heh heh).  and i suppose it stands to reason; when your every utterance is a lie, you're liable to believe any ole thing (again, heh heh heh).

and, besides, nobody loves a good ole fashioned sporting game like janus...obviously it isn't fair, as i out-class every last one of these sons-a-bitches; they know it; and they know i'm a-commin' (and i'm bringing 'hell' with me).

so, man of two minds; cheers from the one of two faces.

for we battle not against flesh & blood; but against principalities and foul spirits in high places.

{and that's all i'm gonna say bout that}

for it's rush hour now on wheel and the plow/

and the sun is goin down on the sacred cow/

...ring them bells,


Tue, 02/18/2014 - 03:54 | 4447217 Cashcollateral
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Charles Hugh-Smith is only ever of one mind, and it's blatantly retarded.

Please stop posting this tripe.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 07:26 | 4447321 lakecity55
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PS: I have Americans so dumbed down they voted a crackhead into office, a man whose falsehoods could be determined with 5 minutes of searching the intertubes! I must admit, it started as a bit of a joke, to take a closeted homo doper and invent an entire phony story for him, but the morons ate it up. Now he does my bidding, hahaha! I even let him think he has 'special powers,' but he is not The One he thinks he is!

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 09:38 | 4447535 d edwards
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Satan is called the father of lies and a deciever: kinda sounds like The One doesn't it?

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 07:49 | 4447338 NuYawkFrankie
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Home run.... outta the park....

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 09:21 | 4447489 kurt
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This is a mint box of maggots, have one?

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 09:57 | 4447605 deerhunter
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anyone seen the flies congregate around O?  Several different time while speaking flies have hovered around.  Curious?

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:07 | 4447632 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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An eerie resemblance between Barack Obama and Satan in the upcoming “Son of God” movie has prompted the film’s producers to completely banish the devil.

Roma Downey, who co-produced the film with her husband Mark Burnett, says scenes with an actor who portrayed the devil but looked like the president have now been edited out.

“It gives me great pleasure to tell you that the devil is on the cutting-room floor. This is now a movie about Jesus, the Son of God, and the devil gets no more screentime,” Downey told the Hollywood Reporter.

The 20th Century Fox film, which opens Feb. 28, is mainly a reworked version of 2013?s popular 10-hour TV miniseries titled “The Bible.”



Tue, 02/18/2014 - 16:04 | 4447702 CaptainSpaulding
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" The power of Christ compels you"

  - Father Merrin and Karras from The Exorcist, 1973

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 11:29 | 4448035 Son of Captain Nemo
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You left out those swell bunch of mindless shitheads at the DoD that keep coming back for "moar tours" and when they are released from the military become police officers or mercs.

Sure hope they are prepared for what Syria, Iran and Eastern Europe has in store for them compared to the last 12!

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 11:45 | 4448112 halfawake
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how very Screwtape of you.

Tue, 02/18/2014 - 17:45 | 4449841 malek
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Outstanding post, Charles!

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