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Ukraine's Military Releases The Armored Vehicles And Fighter Jets; Independence Square Is In Flames - Live Feed
Ukraine's Independence Square is ablaze
Days after Kazakhstan broke out is tanks post-devaluation, the promise to "Restore order by all means envisaged" is under way in Ukraine as military vehicles are being mobilized into the city center (and fighter jets are being reported overhead). As Martin Armstrong so eloquently noted recently, "the Western powers represented by the EU and the US have nothing to stand on to protect Ukraine and can only offer lip-service at best. So once again, it appears that Ukraine is doomed and the best one can hope for there, is that Russia will allow the West to leave. The countdown goes forward and the political and economic crisis is indicative of what we see with the first shot across the bow in the rising trend of the Cycle of War." The US has 'demanded' an end to the violence...
Update:
- *UKRAINE POLICE ATTACK DEMONSTRATORS WITH WATER CANONS ON MAIDAN
- *POLICE MOVE IN ON OPPOSITION CAMP IN KIEV CENTER, AP SAYS
- *UKRAINE POLICE FORCE ATTACKING INDEPENDENCE SQUARE FROM 3 SIDES
Two jet aircrafts, presumably military, have appeared over Maidan in the Ukrainian capital of Kiev, the mass media report.
Live Feed
The economy is collapsing:
- *UKRAINE JAN. INDUSTRIAL OUTPUT FALLS 16.0% IN MONTH (largest on record)
Things are rapidly deteriorating...
- *KLITSCHKO URGES UKRAINIANS TO FLOCK TO INDEPENDENCE SQUARE
- *KLITSCHKO SAYS MAIN TASK TO AVOID BLOODSHED
- *KLITSCHKO SAYS UKRAINE FORCES MAY STORM INDEPENDENCE SQUARE
- *KLITSCHKO URGES WOMEN, CHILDREN TO LEAVE INDEPENDENCE SQUARE
- *UKRAINE RIOT POLICE AMASS ON PERIMETER OF INDEPENDENCE SQUARE
The death toll is rising (and hundreds are injured)
- *UKRAINE INTERIOR MINISTRY SAYS ONE POLICEMAN SHOT DEAD TODAY
- *UKRAINE SAYS 37 POLICEMAN INJURED IN CLASHES WITH PROTESTERS
- *UKRAINE OPPOSITION SAYS 3 KILLED IN CLASHES, 7 CRITICAL
- *TWO MORE DEAD BODIES DISCOVERED AMID KIEV PROTESTS: INTERFAX
The world condemns...
- *EU'S ASHTON `DEEPLY WORRIED' ABOUT RENEWED UKRAINE VIOLENCE
- *GERMANY TO MAKE ALL EFFORTS TO RESOLVE CONFLICT: STEINMEIER
- FRENCH FOREIGN MINISTER FABIUS CONDEMNS VIOLENCE IN KIEV (FR)
- *SIKORSKI SAYS UKRAINE URGENTLY NEEDS POLITICAL COMPROMISE
- *US DEMANDS YANUKOVYCH END VIOLENCE IN KIEV, AFP SAYS
And now the military vehicles are rolling:
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Gonna get nasty. And coming to a city near you!
Revenge of the Cossacks!
Hurry up and get those Olympics over so we can get this started.
Billary Clinton & John Kerry want to arm & send in the liver eater "freedom fighters."
Victoria Nuland (wife of Robert Kagan - a true PNAC Neocon) is out with her hit rap song, "Fuck the EU," this week - available for download on SPYiTunes.
One problem (one of many) with armored vehicles is that sooner or later you have to get out of them, and then what?
" The US has 'demanded' an end to the violence..."
So what's the U.S. gonna do? End the violence by dropping bombs? Makes sense.
No, 0bama's going to give a speech.
Problem solved, off to the back 9.
How many more countries to have this kind of revolt, and bailins before the sheep stop thinking "It will never happen here" !
Since just paying my car tax and being told it's a polluter that's why the tax is so high I can't help but notice the chimney on those green cars - that alone is enough to stand up and fight those bureaucratic b******s. It's not the same when shoe is on the other foot.
The sheeple that are fed MSM headlines believe the only relevant news out of that region is that Russians want to kill an American Hockey Referee.
"What's a "Ukraine?," they ask.
HOLODOMOR 2.0 underway...
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It's 'why' you only ever hear 24/7 full court press about 'The Holocaust' on the MSM & which has been force fed into the IDIOT American psyche for, going on several generations now... [&, by the way, 'who' controls that MSM thingy anyway]?...
One armored vehicle is burning...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjDfxrZQTPs
"Stop our war in Syria, Mr. Putin? We'll bring the party closer to you."
Signed,
USA
It s about consistancy. Have a plan and keep at it. Killing brown people no longer has the same feeling so we are going after funny speaking white people now.
America Fuck Yeah
Where is Boris anyway?
And where is Riot Dog?
pics are grainy. couldn't make out the blackwater operatives. although, it looks more realistic than sandy hook and the beantown marathon and for that matter, the moon landings
This shit is real as it was in Cairo. Not good at all for the region.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/02/17/us-eu-paying-ukrainian-rioter...
"independence square"....think they might want to rename it "dependence square" since that's the objective.
That’s how we are stopping terrorism. By terrorizing others with drones.
An end to the violence LMAO Propaganda for the feeble minded. Obama's cohorts McShame and Soro's (orange revolution) got the violence started. Putin doesn't bend to their will and since it didn't work out then they are back at it.
Senators John McCain and Chris Murphy address Ukraine ProtestorsFlashback
Failed revolution - Ukraine heads back to Soviet past@Chuck
The US could end the violence in about 24 hours.
You see Yanukovych and his cronies have all their stolen money sitting in European banks. They don't trust Putin too much or lets say they don't trust the Russian mob with their ill gotten gains. So all the US has to do is start twisting a few wrists in Europe and start seizing the billions of dollars these cock suckers stole.
Yanukovych's son is a Dentist. Some how on a dentists salary (150 USD a month) he was able to buy several Mobile Phone companies and a Bank. Who would have thought a Dentist could own a few billion dollars worth of businesses on $150 USD a month. Just like the ex prime ministers son has a cellar companies in Austria. Who would have thought these poor simple guys with little to no resources and education could have billions. Must be luck.
Go after their money and you'll see how fast these cunts beg for mercy.....
It's winter over hear, the cost of that move might add several dollars per gallon to the price of gas over in the US (and introduce the EU to a zombie apocalypse if they openly side with the US in the latest proxy war against Russia).
But given the stupidity I see on display in Brussels and Berlin, it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.
Paul Craig Roberts
...A number of confirmations have come in from readers that Washington is fueling the violent protests in Ukraine with our taxpayer dollars.
Washington has no money for food stamps or to prevent home foreclosures, but it has plenty of money with which to subvert Ukraine.
One reader wrote: “My wife, who is of Ukrainian nationality, has weekly contact to her parents and friends in Zhytomyr [NW Ukraine]. According to them, most protesters get an average payment of 200-300 grivna, corresponding to about 15-25 euro. As I additionally heard, one of the most active agencies and ‘payment outlets’ on EU side is the German ‘Konrad Adenauer Stiftung’, being closely connected to the CDU, i.e. Mrs. Merkel’s party.”...
http://www.degaray.com/?p=4007
And then a fist fight. That if you're prepared to fight for you believe in, if not, no vehicle even distantly guided like a drone can prepare to what is coming next.
The Sick Puppies, put it best in one of my new favorite songs and it should be the "theme song" for all these "protesters" all over the planet.
"Dont bring a knife to a gun fight.......YA LOSE"!!!!
I think the verse about Tianamen Square is especially appropriate.... "Stand in front of a tank.... The tank is gonna win!!"
Noel
You've got about 20 feet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGzeyO3pGzw
You stay in it until every potential hostile threat has been neutralized. Nice to see they are taking out the trash over there.
When it happens here it won't be sponsored by a foreign entity. It will be a true "homegown" uprising.
What's worse if when you can't get out the vehicles and someone with a few gallons of gas decides to turn it into an easy-bake oven.
1 steel chain to wrap the drive train or axle $20
1 mapp gas torch and some cheap welding rods $40
4 liters petrol $10 (or ammonia and bleach if you prefer expectoration to conflagration, or plan to recycle the vehicle)
The look on the faces on the thug kids when they realize they aren't the law, and what war really is... priceless.
(And why no sane person who has been through it cares to do so again, or seriously disparages the actual methods employed in low level conflicts)
Give them weapons (after a back ground check)
A riot.....it is an ugly thing....und it iz about time zat vee had vun!!
“A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man!”
Listening to that live feed, is like going back in time, it's like the last 100 years never happened!!
Revolution brothers!!!!
I wish these "peoples revolts" all over this planet, would finally get a clue and start realizing the solution to there problems are universally the same, their money is worthless and they are powerless because their productivity and wealth has been stolen from them!!!
The answer is of course simple, demand to be paid for your productivity in something that is not worthless!! That is the fucking revolution friends, fighting over who's fiat, toilet paper you are going to accept, is insanity!!
When "the people" start putting all their energy into THAT, that's a fucking revolution I'm getting behind! Until then, roll the tanks, don't roll the tanks, it doesn't matter!
For those who haven't seen it or need a refresher...
Never forget why this all happens - Mike Maloney's "Hidden Secrets of Money"
If it's not on CNBS, it didn't happen!
All unicorns and skittle farts!
All is well!
Great piece! Crystal clear for the innocent.
Dito here. The worker needs to be paid a fair wage depending on the hours of labor he/she puts in on a daily basis. The paper pushers at the top are redundant and live off of the collective manpower like parasites.
cossacks cowards are on corrupt side as always for hundreds years since the russian emperor beat andcorrupt them
Ukraine, Bosnia, and last week, Montenegro...
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Smoke is rising in the Balkans (again)
Since when is Ukraine in the Balkans?
Its not, my bad... 'and in' the Balkans.
Don't forget Bulgaria just overthrough it's government after protestors besieged the Parliament and riot police refused to protect the Mafia in power
As would (will) the US government if ever faced with similar circumstances!
The days of freedom are long over in America and their protectorates, protesting is now equated to terrorism against the State, and ask your local big government employee, what we "do" with terrorist, domestic and abroad!
The US will slap you down before the thought of rioting even crosses your mind. We are on a different level of totalitarianism.
Hell, we close down kids lemonade stands for not having a permit. No way in hell a riot will ever be allowed.
Unless you're black and your looting relates to social justice.
Then it's game on.
Riots are also permissable when one's favorite sport's team win whatever-the-fuck championship they won.
People get hungry, riots begin. The days of shuttering lemonade stands will be looked upon with nostalgia.
Hungry? The last public outburst I saw in the US was a group of people fist-fighting over their place in line to buy 150$ Rebox shoes.
Or over sports celebrity branded shoes, or "justice" for yet another young black drug addict who died one dark rainy night while committing a vicious crime, say, on the way back from 7-11 with ingredients for Purple Drank, or over OJ courtroom antics, or citizen video of some sociopath getting treated roughly by the police....
All of my extended family are low life 1% who ride Harleys and would kill you in a minute. None of them are black. It might be SS lighting bolt tattos on their necks that turn peolpe off but I think it has more to do with the fact they are scumbags. +true life not a lie_
TPTB preemptied that threat potential. The sole reason they put a black man in the WH.
If one would be organised, the nsa would be waiting already at the meeting point.
No riots will be allowed -- until they cannot be prevented.
History, nature, market forces show us time and time again: you cannot control. You can give yourself the illusion of control by suppressing things, but eventually the force and resources required to maintain the illusion exceed what's available, and then everything that's been prevented from happening... happens all at once.
TPTB are so afraid of the little picture of protests gaining momentum in US that they overlook the big picture of letting little pockets of dissent blow off steam before they become big pockets.
No they try to down play it when they are on the losing end.
Remember this from last year. I don't at least not the details Chucky Cheese let out recently.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/schumer-pushes-tighter-power-pl...
Sen. Schumer pushes for tighter security at power plants, citing California attack Drawing on an April 2013 sniper attack that knocked out 17 transformers at a San Jose eletrical substation, Sen. Chuck Schumer blasted rules that give the energy industry veto power over security regulations....
Sen. Chuck Schumer is pushing for tighter security at power plants after a shooting attack on a California substation last year came close to taking down the area’s power grid.
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In last April’s unsolved raid, snipers knocked out 17 transformers.
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What is left unsaid in the article is they popped them shot off from outside the security perimeter. The emperor is alot more naked than you think.
Depends whose spin you want to believe.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/12/how-has-the-most-significant-...
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The shocking details of the event — in the middle of the night six men fired hundreds of AK-47 rounds at critical energy grid components after purposely disabling emergency call systems — rightly piqued the collective curiosity.
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Snipers using AK-47s firing off hundreds of rounds?
The question begs why didn't they make noise about it then and are now suddenly making a public spectacle about it. One reason is they are afraid because the mood is getting very ugly not because they are as powerful as they would like you to believe or else they would have went full police state retard over this back in April of 2013.
They try to downplay why it took so long but 17 transformers taken out at once is not an act of 'vandalism'. The only question is it the same people pushing moar security to keep us safe doing a dry run short of a full false flag or not....
At least when it comes to the US we will be able to understand what they are yelling in the live riot cams.
Not if it is in a big city. The FSA is not that fluent in english.
pods
We are about to watch a collapse of post-Soviet entities. Oligarchy and Mafia-control governments (including Putin in Russia) are utterly rotten to a core and will collapse in a near future.
As for Ukraine, it can become another Syria or Libya. In other word, a major international world transformation is on a move with a major confrontation between the USA together with EU and Japan and China is just around a corner.
In this confrontation, the USA must get Iran on its side. Iran can completely substitute Russian's gas supply to EU. The problem is Israel and its Zionist American puppets (the Congress) are against this creating a huge geo-strategic opening to China.
Ironically, I think the Hottie from the State dept. summed it up best..........."Fuck the EU!
You speak as if the US had taken the high road on democracy and corruption. Get out much?
@ caconhma. Countries, flags and nationhood no longer exist. It's a global scheme now. The elitists do not see countries; they see regions and resources and one world beholden to them alone. Think of a chess board with all the pawns on one side, white and black, against all the court pieces on the other side. We cannot fight them unless we meet them on this type of board. Countries must put their grievances aside and come together in a global effort to look above and beyond their corrupt governments to the real puppet masters in charge. They know no country. Only a global front, aimed at the bankster elite families, will have any effect in any revolution. Overthrowing one corrupt government will only be replaced by another corrupt government, hand-picked by the banksters. They have infiltrated everything and have a stranglehold because the people never seem to look any further than their own government as the culprit. If people can be awakened to this truth, a true purge of the enemy can begin - at the top.
Yep, the scenario you describe is the true meaning of 'Globalization'. I guess too many people were wise to 'The Internationale' and too many freaked out when George HW Bush spoke about the 'New World Order'.
So a rebrand was in order. 'Globalization' they called it. Same slavery, same masters, same revolution will be necessary.
So many Mockingjays and ropes
over the loudspeaker:
"dobre dobre attention comrade protestors paid by amerikanskis, all women, except virago nuland err victoria noodleman please leave to your domaciles."
the "rebels" are NATO puppets. NATO would like very much to get them in power and plant ICBMs on Russia's doorstep. think Putin will go along with that?
The Interior Ministry uploaded the following video were protesters are shown with guns attacking police.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q4TaZyKv3Y#t
Great footage. Those cops need to learn the testudo.
The long guns the protesters were using were definitley air rifles. That pistol at around 0:50 sure looked real though.
The shells in the mag looked real too.
Shells are for artillery.
Cartridges or rounds go in magazines.
Pedanterast.
"There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order."
Looks like a CZ75, and some mid-grade air rifles. The CZ is a great pistol, but the guy who has it acts like he hasn't done much shooting.
Come on, he was an SEIU cubicle rat last month. Give the guy a break.
Yup. I know his hand was wrapped but damn that reload was fugly.
I was thinking air rifle as well. But some air rifles are serious business:
http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/
Those are pretty awesome. The one in the vid looks like a knock-off of an HW97.
That bastard at 5:10 sure found himself on the wrong side of history.
Awesome video, hope the law enforcement community in the US is taking note, along with dHs, NssssA, etc., and etc.
The elite will get their war, somewhere, somehow.
Brzezinski-Soros gang funding the protesters so they can put in a pro-Western IMF / NATO puppet in charge of a very important geopolitical country like Ukraine. Brzezinski almost started World War III back in December 2004 during the Orange "revolution" with the possibility of the eastern part of the country seceding to the Russian Federation, and thus Polish NATO troops enter from the west and Russian troops from the east. These old oligarchs should back off while they still can with their dangerous destabilization operations in eastern Europe and even trying to get Georgia join NATO.
Correct. The Ukraine is a line that Russia WILL NOT allow the EU and US to cross.
Vlad The Impaler says "Please pass back the Breadbasket, bitchez."
Not too long ago Vlad drew a line in Syria's sand too.
Which is why we give Russia a pass because we hate America and Europe more? Makes no sense. Time for Ukraine to chart a course independent of east or west...but supporters of east and west made sure the choice of the people can only be east or west, so both east and west have condemned the people of Ukraine to death and enslavement no matter what. How fucking sad.
Gave Russia a pass? Regardless as to how one feels about the politics of the situation, that's an awfully naive & condescending tone to assume regarding Russia, and maybe just one of the reasons new tensions between some western countries and Russia have been renewed as of late.
What is "the civilized world" (that bombs any nation with substantial oil reserves, allegedly poses a strategic threat to Israel and/or doesn't have a "play the game" fractional fiat reserve central bank into the stone age) supposed to do?; take Russia behind the woodshed and spank her?
O Rly?
I don't mean to sound like a dick, but Russia still "strong like bear," and it would appear that Ukraine has self-determination Highway to blaze if it values independence as much as it claims.
You may not have meant it but yes, you sound like bit like a dick. I never said spank Russia, I said tell Russia and all of them to butt out. I just find it odd that many around here who profess a desire for all foreign interlopers to stay out of another nations affairs get their nut off talking up Russia just because it is popular to do so, especially in light of Captain Momjeans in the WH...but I guess it doesn't matter...Russia intervenes and ZH celebrates because the US & EU made them do it...US/EU intervenes and ZH celebrates because they were right all along about the nefarious Westerners...basically ZH celebrates while Ukrainians get slaughtered. Teach me more about this enlightment you say I am lacking.
EXACTLY!!!
Who the FUCK wants to join the EU?
They will load up the country with un-payable debt
They will strip - mine the country of it assets
They will fill the country with third-worlders
And when they are all done, you will be begging in the streets like in Greece
If I was there I would be shooting the fucking protesters too.
they'll fill it with jew bankers and puppet politicians!
The Ukrainian people actually know both sides fuck them and truly want to be independent but everyone should take note on how futile this is without elaborate trickery
They should just fake a civil war and take money from both sides perhaps learn a bit from pond scum Israel
No Common Agricultural Policy for you!
yet you forgot, taht
they are already loaded up with un-payable debt
they have already stripped the nation of its assets
the country is already filled with tens of milions third-world workes
yet they have guts and are not begging, they fight them, enemy of my enemy is my friend
you would shoot no-one if you be there youd be sitting behind the pc like you do now
shut up and go watch some stupid pathetic series
Say a prayer for the innocent -they'll be needing it.
Pray that the Soros/Kerry/Nuland/Pyatt mobile(s) get a nice care package of C4 under the seat of the cars they are in this week. Since we no longer have a "rule of law" that guides the U.S. Government and it's NATO gang it should be the ONLY option.
Putin: Keep watching the Olympics
That cross looks like a pretzel
Unleash the cracken.......and cracken thier heads.
Tyrants in action.
This will not end well..... it has not begun well already.
Paging Ms. Nuland, please pick up the courtesy phone in the lobby... please?
...please pickup the unsecured cell phone. Would love to have her next conversation played for all the world to hear.
They just called from Maidan. Protesters there are waiting for Vicca Nuland to dispense sammiches...
This shit is getting good,it doesn't look like they're going to be able to keep the ball up in the air much longer.
All anyone can hope for is for the military, any military, to turn on their handlers. Long shot maybe. At any rate, there will be blood.
I thought that after 12 years of this common sense and pure logic would eventually prevail over the most brain dead within the U.S. military. Then you read shit like this from a high ranking ex-CIA officer and you realize just how fucked we truly are.
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2014/02/49899-philip-giraldi-old-testament-armed-forces/Egypt 2013. One down, plenty more to go.
Stop quoting Martin Armstrong. The guy is a professional Madoff. He is now claiming his AI to have predicted Ukraine as well as 9/11 in order to instill confidence in his AI's trading ability. He writes himself emails about how great he is so he can answer them. But when he comes out and makes a statement or prediction, he is batting about 15% success. If he wants some credibility, he needs to allow comments on his inaccurate blog posts. When I read his tripe, all I get is a full on BS boner. You would have to know nothing at all for his nonsense to seem credible. His posts are so full of garbage and half truths that it actually irritates the crap out of me. It is like finding a math text book that insists 1+ 1 =3.
>> When I read his tripe,
I tried a couple of times and gave up. Just another shit spewing jackass.
"May the Great Spirit Assist and Enlighten The Children in Ukraine. Keep them Safe from Harm."
The US has 'demanded' an end to the violence
Hypocrites!!!
Like when I was a kid, telling my little brother to stop hitting himself, as I grabbed his wrist and used it to hit his own face.
I would understand Ukranians easier if they were rioting to GET OUT of the EU.
Maybe they feel their homemade govt. corruption is too provincial.
The majority of Ukranians voted for the present government which has rejected EU/NATO.
The minority violence-prone Fascistic factions backed by the US/EU are less interested in the
actual economic well-being of Ukraine than they are of using any excuse to seize power.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-and-the-rebirth-of-fascism-in-europ...
The US/EU powers are not keen on democratically elected governments (e.g. Palestine, Honduras, Venezuela, Egypt, or Ukraine). Nor are they against "violence" (just too obvious).
The US government priority is to weaken Russia, economically and militarily.
Neither the Russian nor Ukraine governments are much to brag about. But at least they have not been imposed by foreign intervention (yet).
By the methods it uses, the allies it accepts, and the hubris it boasts, the US government reveals itself to be no different than what it claims to oppose.
Hypocrisy, as another has commented. Of the worst kind.
The US/EU powers are not keen on democratically elected governments (e.g. US, EU)
DAMN right everywhere on earth where there is FIRE, its because the CIA has engineered a COUP to take down a fairly elected democratic gubmint. Elected by a MAJORITY.
Israel isn't a DEMOCRACY, but its illegal to even say that.
The USA isn't a DEMOCRACY, and nobody even knows it.
Yet, ZH bamboozled talk on about 'democracy'.
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AIPAC has only one model, Have 'Scientology' groom a bunch of Candidates, or the MORMON Church, and then pass those 'candidates' to the public and give them a 'choice' and call that a DEMOCRACY.
Anywhere on earth, where the list of CANDIDATES isn't controlled by AIPAC(CIA/MOSSAD) then AIPAC goes nuts and destroys that country.
Ten rounds...Klitschko versus Kerry.
Surely the man with all the military ribbons will win?!
wtf?
Here's jewish opposition leader Klitschko meeting with John McCain.
http://www.vosizneias.com/news/photos/view/510205098
here is his money man:
Early lifeArseniy Petrovych Yatsenyuk was born on May 22, 1974 in Chernivtsi, Ukraine (then part of the Soviet Union). He was born in a family of professors of the Chernivtsi University. After Yatsenyuk began studying at the Chernivtsi University in 1992, Yatsenyuk set up a student law firm.[5] He graduated from the university in 1996, and later attended the Chernivtsi Trade-Economics Institute of the "Kyiv National Trade-Economics Institute" in 2001.[6]
From December 1992 to September 1997 he was the president of "Yurek Ltd." law firm, based in Chernivtsi.[6] From January 1998 until September 2001, Yatsenyuk worked in the Aval bank, based in Kiev.[6]
It is reported that Yatsenyuk graduated from the Kiev school of Dianetics and joined the Scientology organization in 1998, while working as a consultant for the credit department of Aval Bank. In the same year he signed a contract with the so-called "Sea Organization," the elite structure of the "Church of Scientology." Yatsenyuk is presently a high-ranking member of the sect and has a "level of auditing" called OT-6. His sister, Alina Petrovna Steele (aka Alina Jones), a citizen of the United States, is also connected with the Church of Scientology. Steele is active at the branch of the church in the city of Santa Barbara (USA, California) and she is at a lower level, OT-4, out of a total of 8.
War = the last lifeboat of a dying fiat-currency.
If we've learned anything in the last 24 months, it's that no single variable can work successfully against King Dollar. E.g. as the most ZH recent post demonstrates, even with China disposing of USTs (either dumping or not rolling over maturing them), not a blip appeared on the FX radar.
Like I said before... the Currency War has evolved into a coalition of currencies on one side, vs a coalition of currencies on the other side: Club Fed (USD+EUR+JPY) against the World (BRiC+EM).
p.s. I used BRiC instead of BRIC, because India has been so compromised by the Anglo-American alliance, that it will do whatever their Western masters tell them to do. Case in point is their willingness to suppress gold imports. And now that Microsoft's new CEO is an Indian guy, well... you connect the dots as to which camp India is in, if Push comes to Shove.
Connect the dots? Dat's racist.
Unless you're being funny... sorry, I don't see 'racism' here, as you seem to. None was intended.
If anything it's "nationalist", given that Indians are (technically) part of the same ancestral root of "Indo-European" languages. I simply meant that, in spite of India also dealing with Iran and in gold on the side, the preponderance of evidence suggests that India is more integrated (assimilated) into the Western camp, than any other. Hope this clears up any ambiguity I may have created.
http://tinyurl.com/mod3jyq
Unfortunately, as things stand, you are correct.
A forced INdian spring could be underway though with the splittign of a major state against strong opposition.
They are lighting fires everywhere...
ori
The official language there is English. Their legal and political systems came from England. Much more recent and powerful influences right there than some prehistoric ties between the languages. Plural because there were hundreds of native languages there when the British got involved.
And the worst part of all that's the way it's always been.
India and China both made there bed with the Anglo-american alliance after 9/11 when they signed up to flood our Country with H1B1 visas and notable positions on the board of director slots on many western banks and technology companies in exchange for hauling away the evidence to there Countries. Just ask this Indian "American" how well he's made out?!
The number of H1B visas is fixed by the US govt alone. Companies here petition the US government to grant them to people those companies find in the global labor market to fill them. Stating that foreign governments are conspiring to fill those, and throwing 9-11 in there, is tinfoil hat stuff.
Club Fed (USD+EUR+JPY) against the World (BRiC+EM).
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Club AIPAC ( NSA-CIA/MOSSAD ) versus Russia/China (Stalin/Mao).
India is fucked, not even worth mentioning, makes the lamest bot's on earth. India is just a house-nigger for Plantation Sam.
MS hired an Indian to run the company cuz 99% of the engineers at MS are Indian. Enough Said. I personally prefer Chinese, I find educated Indians to be a lazy entitled Caste lot of fuck's, this alone is most likely why MS software sucks dick.
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Stalin/Mao both had their purge and tried to get rid of the PTB, and the war never really ended. Today the PTB is going full retard creating civil-wars all over the earth.
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Where is this going?
I think CHINA/RUSSIA will quit using the USD/EURO, and that CHINA & RUSSIA will sell their US dollars and EUROPE will buy them with FED FIAT. This will continue until TEAM-AIPAC is the laughing stock of the world.
fyi, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Final_Act_of_the_Conference_on_Security_an...
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The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
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Russia has the upper hand here and the Ukrainian government sending in tanks doesn't violate this agreement. Sending in the tanks is a Russian favorite for dealing with uprisings even today. They just let the proxy government's roll in the tanks instead of theirs. Britian ain't going to do shit either. The US if they get caught in any way intervening are going to look even worse in the world's eyes because of this agreement. Russia has these bozo's in the WH and State Department so outclassed it ain't funny. The EU will be forced to intervene with their own boots if they want the Ukraine and cutting off northern access of Russian gas to the Nabucco through the Ukraine. Even then you have that little problem of Nato and it's agreements. There was a saying about entangling alliances....
August 1914.
They like the old plots,so who is Ferdinand ?
There is only one country that has skin in the game that can be used to roll in tanks against the Ukraine that isn't in NATO or the EU. It is Moldova. The ancient kingdom of Moldavia where Moldova now resides used to extend into part of the Ukraine, specifically the Odessa Oblast region of the Ukraine. There is still a sizeable population of Moldavians in that region even to this day.
Moldova wants to eventually join the EU along with NATO and has for awhile now....
Can someone say useful idiot eager to do bidding for a new master.
If they want the Ukraine bad enough a proxy war using Moldova comes next then UN intervention to legally get the troops into the Ukraine then some false flag attack on the the troops in there under the guise of 'peace keeping' to justify attacking the Ukrainian government forces without violating any agreements then claim agreements are null and void because the Ukraine violated it to start a full out legal war in the Ukraine.
The Russians play chess the Europeans still do also even though they've gotten sloppy at it since they have the US sitting behind them like mommy making everything better when you fuck up. The US on the other hand especially the current regime plays chess like pigeon and just walks on the board knocking over pieces while shitting on it at the same time and declaring they've won the game. This is about the only move that can be made next in this game if both sides are playing chess still. The Russians know it so does the Europeans if they are both still playing chess. The next moves will revolve around this if they plan to go the proxy war route with boots on the ground. I would bet a good portion of the unsterilized QE and OMT the ECB is engaging in gets redirected to Moldova to finance this operation.
Follow the money flows especially into Moldova over the next few weeks/months depending how the current Ukraine situation plays out.
Keep your eyes on Moldova next.
Just a little fact-checking here.
The ancient kingdom of Moldavia consisted not only of the current days Moldova state and the southern part of Ukraine, but also of 1/4 of current Romania. In fact, the (now)Romanian territory was the headquarters of the 1500s Moldavia kingdom. Kingdom that had its golden age during the reign of Stephen the Great (1433-1504, ruled between 1457-1504).
Now back to our current situation; I'm afraid Moldova has its own territorial issues with Russian-backed "breakaway" regions Transnistria and Gagauzia, to even think of moving into Ukraine. If it were anyone to ever make that move, it would be Romania. There is Romanian population in southern Ukraine, a southern Ukraine that once was Romanian territory (Northern Bukovina). But it's not going to happen, our political leaders are too busy going at each other's throat right now.
Yes correct concerning Romania but the fact of the matter is Romania is part of both the EU and NATO, Moldova isn't. Romania can't get involved directly with boots on the ground due to entangling alliances. Moldova is the only country that can get involved because of this issue. With that said they could be an indirect funnel of resources into Moldova to support it's boots on the ground.
Fact of the matter is the Moldovian government not the breakaway region wants to integrate fully into the EU not Russia. Also when you break down the demographics of Moldova the 2 largest groups are in order Moldovans and Ukrainians.
Good that you bring up the breakaway region since that is where the Russians will most likely apply pressure once this move is made by the EU/NATO in the chess match but I would bet both sides are anticipating this if they are still playing chess and thinking ahead at least 2 moves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Moldova
http://www.moldova.md/en/relatile/
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Amongst the most valuable achievements of the Moldovan diplomacy in the area of European Integration are the deepening of the bilateral dialogue with the EU within the European Neighbourhood Policy; the signing of the European Union – Republic of Moldova Action Plan in Brussels on 22 February 2005; the establishment of the Mission of the Republic of Moldova to the European Community (in May 2005); the creation of the Office of the Delegation of the European Commission to the Republic of Moldova (in October 2005); the appointment of a Special EU Representative to the Republic of Moldova and the enlargement of the (“five plus two side”) format for carrying out of negotiations for the settlement of the conflict in Transnistria with the inclusion of the EU and the USA; the obtaining of facilities for the GSP+ system for the export of Moldovan products to the EU market; the continuation of the dialogue with the European Commission for obtaining the EU Autonomous Trade Preferences according to a similar offering model for Western Balkans states etc.
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The cooperation between the Republic of Moldova and the UN and its specialized agencies is also an important area of MAEIE activity. Thanks to political initiatives launched by the MAEIE and coordinated by line ministries a series of positive decisions have been taken by FAO and the International Labour Organisation, respectively, on the establishment of their offices in Chisinau and the appointment of their national coordinators. Both actions aimed at maintaining or increasing the amount of the assistance offered to our country in agricultural and labour areas, respectively.
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Moldova is going to get to come off the bench and play starter minutes next in this game it looks like.
Oh yes, correct about Romania being member of NATO. Romania engaging in Ukraine would mean NATO attacking. Haven't thought about that.
Moldova is on its path, with EU promises of visa-free travelling in a couple of months. I'm also reading they're advancing on the fta.
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It would be all so interesting to watch this chess game, if it wouldn't happen right in my backyard (I'm less than 30 miles from Ukraine and some 50 miles away from Moldova).
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Thank you for such knowledgeable answers.
In the words of one of our more prominent Statesmen (one without a dick) : "...well, you know... and Fuck the EU..."
Just as an addendum since the wikipedia page doesn't state it.
That affirmation of memorandum on security assurances to the Ukraine was reaffirmed in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Ukraine.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ukraine._Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
Now the King called up his jet fighters
he said you better earn your pay
drop you bombs between the minarets
down the casbah way
Those protesters are going to need some RPG's, better get on the phone to the US ambassador.
A jet would be useless unless it's to kill the protesters. We had an F-18 display right downtown at noon hour once. It was a fantastic display. I could have watched it all day as he flew low and loud.
What time is kick off.
am giving up my age here...but it looks like a re-run from Hungary, 1956
Anyone else recall the headlines from that era?
A bit younger but I vivdly remember Czechoslovakia '68.
As I recall Ukraine was a very crucial country to occupy in RISK, kind of prescient
When you can't "Release the Kraken!" (or something more hideous & destructive, like the Kenyan Usurper or Hitlery Rotten), I guess you have to settle for releasing the armored vehicles and fighter jets.
The US has 'demanded' an end to the violence...
America’s moral high ground has been consistently squandered by the neocons and their close association with the financiers’ dream of world government; demonstrated daily by such interferences as the latest demands again Russian influence in the Ukraine.
The neocons’ modus operandi is fomenting hatred, both within the United States and around the globe.
Diplomacy Is a Four Letter Word: The Neocon Triumph | Antiwar.com
by Philip Giraldi, February 18, 2014
Why is the United States so reluctant to negotiate with other countries and so prone to leap immediately to the option of using force or chicanery in lieu of a more deliberative foreign policy? It might partly be because we Americans are not very good at the subtlety and give-and-take that diplomacy requires, but it could also be because our framework for operating, which shapes what we do and how we do it, is hopelessly skewed. One might even argue that the dominant neoconservative way of thinking has thoroughly infected both parties’ perceptions of how a foreign policy is supposed to work, leading official Washington to see everything in terms of "us and them" while at the same time exonerating every American misstep by citing the largely bogus national security argument to explain places like Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran.
The vitriol unloaded on Russia since the rise of Vladimir Putin and most recently to ridicule almost every aspect of the Olympic Games is astonishing. By all means criticize Russia for its slide into authoritarianism, but turning it into a target of choice for ignorant media, politicians and White House spokesmen is just downright stupid. Moscow’s cooperation is essential to resolve a number of international crises and the hostility radiating from Washington only makes the world a much more dangerous place for everyone.
The sustained pressure on the Ukraine over the past several months has likewise been remarkable and, under other circumstances, it would all be difficult to explain but for the fact that it and Russia are essentially two halves of one policy that is being orchestrated by the same group of neoconservatives, some of whom have now, fortuitously enough, attached themselves to the party in power in the White House, which is the Democrats. It was easy enough to do as many neocons are basically liberal Democrats if one excludes their aggressive foreign policy views.
Remember the pastel revolutions in Eastern Europe that were sponsored by the United States and some western nations but which are now best forgotten? Involvement of Non-Government Organizations (NGOs) in places like the Ukraine and Moldova sure turned out well, particularly when the biggest baddest NGO of all, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) got involved. When the Russians and others complained about the activities of NGOs interfering in their domestic politics NED was what they were referring to. NED instinctively favored people who called themselves democrats and were able to speak English, polyglot ability somehow demonstrating their political reliability. They turned out to be as corrupt as their predecessors and no less inclined to fool around with the electoral system they inherited. Tinkering in Georgia by Washington and its Israeli surrogates almost led to American involvement in a war with Russia in which Washington had no conceivable interest. Remember John McCain’s "We are all Georgians now?"
Those who are aware of the insidious activities of NED, an ostensibly private foundation that spreads “democracy” and is largely funded by Congress, know that it has a Democratic Party half in its National Democratic Institute, and a Republican Party half in its International Republican Institute. Madeleine Albright is in charge of the NED Dems while John McCain leads the NED GOP. Which is not to say that there is much in the way of adult supervision, probably a good thing as otherwise NED would be even more meddlesome than it already is.
After wrecking Eastern Europe NED has gone on to do yeoman’s work relating to the Arab Spring, the results of which are clearly visible in Tunisia, Egypt and Iraq. But now the focus is again on the former Soviet Union with millions of dollars going to opposition parties, this time with the full force of an uncritical mainstream media behind the effort. Easily forgotten are two indisputable facts relating to Russia and the Ukraine. First, before the Soviet Union broke up in 1991, there was an understanding that the US and Europe would not use the situation as an excuse to expand their spheres of influence into Eastern Europe. NED and other groups violated that understanding almost immediately and now Croatia, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Romania, Slovenia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Romania and Poland are in the European Union and also in NATO, an organization that has absolutely no raison d’etre apart from serving as a military alliance against Russia.
Second, today’s Ukraine was largely shaped by Josef Stalin during Second World War, when parts of Poland and Romania that had Ukrainian majorities were annexed. The Ukraine is roughly seventy-five per cent Ukrainian ethnically but ten million Ukrainian citizens are ethnic Russians, more than 17% of the population. Many Ukrainians therefore look to Russia as a natural ally and trading partner while those who once were part of Poland tend to look westward, but what is indisputable is that the current mildly pro-Moscow Ukrainian government of Viktor Yanukovych came to power after a free election monitored by international observers in 2010. Yanukovych believes in strong ties to Russia but is also friendly to the European Union and the United States. In spite of that studied neutrality Washington and the Europeans are stirring up unrest and trying to coerce the Ukrainian government into entering into a formal arrangement with the EU that its elected leadership believes to be not in its best interests. Protesters, supported and possibly even trained and equipped by Europe and the US, have responded with violence.
The US State Department’s Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland has been a leader in the drive to punish the Ukraine and force it to become part of the EU. "We stand with the people of Ukraine who see their future in Europe," she said rather undiplomatically in December. But who is Nuland anyway? She is described in the media as an experienced diplomat, which in a sense she is, but if that phrase is intended to imply that she is completely a professional it would be misleading. She is the wife of leading neoconservative Robert Kagan, who is best known for his assertion that Americans "are from Mars and Europeans are from Venus." Kagan, who is quite portly and has characteristically never served in the US armed forces, presumably is Martian by adoption.
Victoria Nuland’s access to senior levels of government began when served as principal deputy national security adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, a position possibly obtained through the good graces of her husband’s neocon associates, who were in the ascendancy at the Pentagon and White House at that time. She then moved on to become US Ambassador to NATO under Bush-Cheney before bouncing back to Washington to work as Hillary Clinton’s press secretary. In that capacity she has sometimes been described as comfortable in working with both conservatives and liberals, but that would be misleading as in terms of foreign policy Clinton is no liberal, strongly pro-Israel and aligning largely with the neocon vision of an American that is ready, willing and able to use force and coercion to establish a new world order that is subordinate to US interests.
Like her husband, Nuland, backed by the White House and politicians including Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham, is consistently hostile to Moscow, possibly because the neocon world view favors the predominantly Jewish oligarchs who looted the Russian economy before being brought to heel by Putin. National Security statists also require a powerful adversary to validate their assumptions about the need to reorganize and lead the world to deal with transnational threats. Nuland predictably refused to congratulate Putin on his most recent electoral victory and she has gone to bat for groups like "Pussy Riot" to embarrass the Russian government.
Nuland was recently intercepted in a telephone conversation with the US Ambassador to the Ukraine Geoff Pyatt. She and the ambassador discussed whom they would support in their drive to rearrange the Ukrainian government, bringing in the UN afterwards to "glue" the deal. Nuland, who has visited the Ukraine several times to speak to the demonstrators and pass out cookies, described the possible European Union (EU) role in such a project disparagingly, using a four letter word which was widely reported in the media. The focus on her language somewhat obscured the far more important content of the call, discussing plans to destabilize the Ukraine while actively working to select one opposition politician as the preferred choice to bring about change in the government.
Victoria Nuland’s call over an unencrypted phone line to discuss highly sensitive matters was, at a minimum, a security violation. She and the Administration subsequently tried to frame it as a Russian setup, calling it "impressive tradecraft," which it was not, but there is no actual evidence that Russia was in any way involved in the intercept, though it did exploit the damaging material that was handed to it on a platter. And the complaint about spying is itself deliciously ironic coming from a government in Washington that has been tapping nearly everyone’s phones with impunity.
Ideologues like Victoria Nuland, who might serve as a poster child for what is wrong with the US government, constitute only one element in the dysfunctional White House view of the world and how to interact with it. Former Senior State Department official James Bruno asks "Why does America send so many stupid, unqualified hacks overseas?" For the first time since the Second World War more than half of all US Ambassadors overseas are political appointees rather than career diplomats, yet another instance of President Barack Obama’s saying one thing while running for office and doing another thing when actually in power. Bruno describes an ambassador to Sweden lying drunk in the snow, the current hotel chain owner nominee for Norway who did not know the country was a constitutional monarchy, and a TV soap opera producer pick for Hungary who had no idea what interests the US might have in the country. One Obama appointee Seattle investor Cynthia Stroum actually was forced to resign after running her embassy in Luxembourg into the ground, verbally abusing her staff and spending embassy funds on personal travel and alcohol.
All of these splendid examples of American officialdom have one thing in common: they gave a lot of money to the Obama campaign. Raising $1.79 million is now the going price for an ambassadorship. Good work Mr. Obama. You promised transparency and have again exceeded all expectations by appointing ambassadors whose lack of qualifications would embarrass the head of state of a banana republic. With Victoria Nuland firmly at the helm of our ship of state in Europe and working to overthrow a friendly government while a group of rich but clueless clowns heads our embassies every American will henceforth know that he or she can sleep safe at night.
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2014/02/17/diplomacy-is-a-four-letter-word/
Well anyway it's on, so we better get in there.
hostile to Moscow, possibly because the neocon world view favors the predominantly Jewish oligarchs who looted the Russian economy before being brought to heel by Putin.
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There you go, right there NAIL ON HEAD. When you DENY AIPAC money you die, and your country dies.
Like bashing SOROS yesterday here, what crime did SOROS a Jew commit? What makes AIPAC hate him so much? He refuses to GIVE AIPAC money.
Putin refuses to let AIPAC rob RUSSIA, so they try to destroy him.
AIPAC is the MAFIA, and if you don't pay for protection, then they have their wet-ops CIA/MOSSAD kill you, or ADL, JDL, SOPJC denigrate you.
Damn. I had tuned this out...I thought this had all been resolved.
This is a stupid, stupid conflict. It's a retarded attempt to reenvision the Russia of the Cold War. DUMB! How will any of this help Putin or the Ukranian people? How will this improve the financial situation?
Where is the diplomacy? The Russian people ARE Europeans! Where is Merkel? Where is the pan-European spirit? We need an Otto Von Bismark!
When are the olympics over? That will be the date that Ethnic Russians within the Ukrainian military let loose the dogs. Tragic.
It's more about the EU wanting to loot Ukraine, and the U.S. wanting to install moar bases (which this part is less cold war and more traditional American imperialism).
The best thing the Ukraine can do is avoid the EU/US/Russia like the plague, and Ukrainians focus on their own sovereignty by removing politicians that are either in the western or Russian pockets.
I do agree that this is a stupid conflict since this is about greed.