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The Twisted Motives Behind Political Correctness

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Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market.com,

As I have confessed in the past, in my early years I found myself active in the Democratic Party and the general liberal methodology. I had no understanding of the concept of the false left/right paradigm. I had no inkling of the dangers of globalism and central banking. I had no concept of decentralization or non-participation. I had never even heard of libertarianism. I knew only that George W. Bush was a criminal (and I was right), but the problem went far deeper than the GOP. I was astoundingly ignorant of the bigger picture.

However, what I did have going for me was an almost violent sense of nonconformity. I hated collectivists, yet I found myself surrounded by them while working within the leftist culture. It was the insanity of self-proclaimed “liberals” that taught me the true nature of the facade of politics. When I realized that the Democrats were essentially the same corrupt entity as the neoconservatives, everything in my life changed.

One aspect of liberalism with which I am now very familiar is political correctness. I didn’t understand it at the time, not until I stepped outside the cultism of it and looked in from a wiser place. It always bothered me, but I couldn’t quite grasp why until later. Then, it hit me like a revelation. Political correctness was not a political ideology. No, it was a religion, a full-fledged spiritual con, a New Age ghetto of frothing mishmash that is sociological voodoo. And the leftists were eating it up like steak night at an all-you-can-eat buffet.

These people were rationally retarded. Every idea they proposed they merely parroted from books and articles they had read. They were like malfunctioning automatons trapped in a cycle of discontented social criticism. Their desperation to invent meaning in the midst of their irrelevant lives made me feel ill. If they could not find a legitimate cause to champion, they would create one out of thin air and defend it relentlessly, regardless of how shallow it truly was.

When I outline my analysis of economic destabilization within the United States or I write about the rise of the police state, I am driven by a fundamental sense of concrete concern. There are indeed real problems in the world, swirling in a storm of obvious factual conflicts. But the warriors of the PC culture don’t see any of it. Rather, they fantasize about injustices that don’t exist, trespasses that are ultimately fictional. They imagine themselves champions of some greater purpose that, in the end, doesn’t matter.

Recently, I read a news story about a “transgendered teen” in Maine. When the boy was in the fifth grade, he decided to dress as a girl and demanded to use the girl’s bathroom at his public school, despite having the biological apparatus of a male. This story was international news, folks! Why? I can’t say, except that the mainstream media have made a point to focus on “gender optional” issues as if they represent some kind of civil rights uprising.

The issue perfectly illustrates the disturbing nature of politically correct culture.

Teachers at the school did not deny the student the use of restroom facilities. In fact, they allowed him to use the teacher’s bathrooms to avoid any confusion. The Maine Supreme Judicial Court, on the other hand, had other ideas. It ruled that the school’s refusal to allow the boy to use the girl’s facilities constituted a violation of the State’s anti-discrimination law. The ruling has been heralded as a massive victory for the politically correct narrative.

Now, let me make one thing clear: I could not care less about this boy’s sexual orientation (if he even has one). I do think the very idea that a fifth-grader at about the age of 10 is sexually conscious enough to develop a sense of gender dissuasion is absurd. Children who haven’t even experienced puberty yet, proclaiming they are transgendered? Utter nonsense. I find it far more likely that the student’s PC-obsessed parents influenced him to come to such a decision despite his naivety.

That said, a person’s sexual proclivities are not my concern. In fact, I have no interest whatsoever in the infatuations of any individual. That is a personal matter. I do not judge such people on their attractions. I do, though, judge people on how they handle their infatuations. What happens when someone wears his sexuality on his shoulder like a fashion accessory? Why is that even necessary? Is it not rather mentally backward for any person to base his public persona solely on his carnal compulsions? Do I dance around on the sidewalk bellowing to strangers how much I love the curves of women? Do I require a sociopolitical legal apparatus to vindicate my existence? Do I feel the need to shame gay people into publicly embracing my straight man’s libido? No, I do not.

The PC culture demands that we, as individuals, openly accept the sexual orientations of anyone and everyone; otherwise, we are labeled prejudiced monsters. It is not enough that we object in a logical manner. No, we must fall to our knees and thank the stars for the very existence of gender chameleons.

In the end, the psychological gender position of any particular person does not overrule his biological features. A child with a penis is a boy. Period. He will never be a girl. Ever. Not without surgical aid. And even then, he will never have the ability to give birth, which is the very hallmark of femininity. (Sorry, feminists, but that’s how it goes.) A boy, no matter his mental orientation, does not belong in a girl’s lavatory. The privacy rights of the girls outweigh the gender confusion of the boy. If I were a girl (why not play some gender games since everyone else is), I would beat the living hell out of any boy gallivanting in a dress in a bathroom I was using and make sure he never dared come back. And, by extension, if I were a rather mischievous boy with an aptitude as a peeping tom, why not dress up in a tutu in the hopes of getting a glimpse of the forbidden while being legally protected by the State?

The warped conflicts that arise, though, are not the creation of the child in question. A fifth-grader has no concept of gender rights or political correctness. This issue was a creation of the PC cult and its acolytes. These people don’t actually care about the children they involve in their legal dramas. They exploit them, with every intent to abandon them once they have chiseled their agenda into the gray matter of every American.

What truly motivates these people? Why do they do what they do? I think my experience with leftists makes me a well-positioned observer of the psychology of the culture. Here are the hidden thought processes I have witnessed while dealing directly with the PC army.

PC Elitism

One of the unfortunate side effects of religion is that proponents often use it as a means to feel superior to others. I have seen it in Christianity as much as I have seen it in any other belief system. It is the primary reason why I refuse to subscribe to organized and establishment-sanctioned spiritualism. Religion should be a personal experience first and foremost, not an easy way to fit in with the collective. Communing with others who share one’s beliefs should be secondary. Hypocritically, politically correct adherents often criticize Christians for their collectivist elitism while suffering from the same problem themselves.

PC culture allows participants to pretend as though they have some greater understanding of the world, an elevated knowledge of life that makes them superior to the uninitiated. It is important to understand that when a person pursues the methodology of zealotry, he doesn’t do it to make the world a better place; he does it to feel better about his place in the world.

The politically correct are so violent in the assertion of their ideals because they crave the subjugation of the mainstream and a recognition of their “rightness.” They don’t want people to “accept” their beliefs as tolerable. They want people to adore their beliefs as supreme. They want every man, woman and child to reinforce their ideals without question.

The malfunction of this philosophy is that zealots are never finished. They must always find new ways to feel superior to others. So they continuously engineer new taboos and new sins, no matter how ridiculous, so that they can forever look down upon the laymen. Because of this, there will never be an end to PC law. It will go on forever, labeling numerous social interactions and stances as “aberrant” — never satiated and never satisfied.

PC Futurism

The young are always searching for ways to feel wiser than the old. This is just the natural way of things, at least in America. Now, I know from ample experience that age does not necessarily denote intelligence. I’ve met plenty of idiotic people who had decades of time to learn from their mistakes but didn’t. But the young, many of whom lack time and struggle, have a terrible tendency to either pretend that they have “seen it all.” Or they pretend that the very atmosphere of the day somehow gives them a greater insight than generations past. The reality is that most of them know very little of import. This attitude comes from a philosophy called “futurism” (popular with the Nazis and the Soviets), which holds that all the beliefs and discoveries of the past mean nothing compared to the beliefs and discoveries of the present. This ideology is alluring to the young, because it gives them a way to feel intellectually dominant over older and more “ignorant” people who are “behind the times.”

Political correctness is basically an appendage of futurism. By labeling elders as social bigots and products of a barbaric era who don’t understand the “lingo” of the PC elite, liberalism draws in and collectivizes the fledgling left. Younger generations are given a cultural avenue toward high priesthood, a right of passage usually reserved for the aged. They get to skip ahead past all the trials and tribulations of life and announce their deep awareness of the so-called greater good.

The values of forefathers past become archaic scrawlings of racist and prejudiced cavemen who could never appreciate the “brilliance” of today’s academia. The inherent freedoms of natural law that have existed since time began are nothing more than obstacles to them, standing in the way of a new and better world where they have somehow outsmarted human instinct and centuries of history.

PC Collectivism

The very foundation of political correctness is solidified in a desire for the perpetual reinforcement of one’s worldview. PC people need every other person around them to sing the praises of their pure virtues. If I happen to disagree with the idea of gender bending, for instance, as some kind of socially persecuted subculture that needs overt government protection, then I am, of course, labeled a hateful Neanderthal. If I stand in opposition to the concept of victim group status in general, in which the state demands that designated “minorities” be given special treatment regardless of the status of the individual, then I become a racist political fossil ignorant of the bigger picture. You see, if you disagree with PC culture in any way (even if that way is rational), you cannot win. To refute political correctness is to refute the god of the New Age; and to refute their god, even with concrete logic, is blasphemy.

This kind of blind faith in political correctness lends itself entirely to collectivism. The average person begins to think that without a viable appreciation of the philosophy, he may be left out or cast aside. Most people do not know how to function without the approval of others. Therefore, even if a father happens to have a healthy skepticism over the idea of a make-up wearing fifth-grade boy waltzing into his daughter’s school bathroom, he is likely to keep his mouth shut, because to speak out would be a risk to his position within the group, or the community.

PC Control

The prevalence of PC philosophy is not subtle. I have always found it interesting that political correctness seems to consistently support the demands of the state. Our system smothers children with it in public school, our workplaces are rife with the propaganda for fear of lawsuits and colleges are veritable breeding grounds for the PC oligarchy. Politically correct culture goes out of its way to constantly test others to make sure they are also true believers. This is exactly what is going on in the following interview with Jerry Seinfeld, who, to his credit, dashes the nonsense to the ground.

 

The truth is some discrimination is healthy, and some discord is needed for a society to remain balanced. As long as we don’t allow our disagreements to end in the physical harm of others, then those disagreements are our natural-born right. If you are a racist (this goes for non-whites as well), that’s fine. Just don’t act out your racism in a violent way around me, or I will have to put you down permanently. If you have a distaste of homosexuality (or asexuality, as seems popular nowadays), then whatever, I don’t care. You shouldn’t have to have organizations like GLAAD (formerly the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation) in your face attempting to force you to put on a smile for gaydom, coordinate man-on-man heavy-petting protests in your favorite restaurant (Chick-fil-A) while you’re trying to eat a damn sandwich, push boys into the girl’s bathroom, or trying to shut down your favorite TV shows because the stars happen to share your views (“Duck Dynasty”).

Now, PC proponents will argue that the very existence of bigotry does harm to society as a whole, and it must be educated out of individuals. Frankly, I see that kind of utopian fascism as a far greater threat to society as a whole than bigotry ever will be.

Look at where we are today because of the PC nightmare! We have a Nation on the verge of industrial and economic collapse, partly because companies are forced by law or persuaded by government subsidies to hire people with victim group status, even if they are unqualified, while ignoring highly qualified people who just happen to have lighter skin. We have children not even old enough to discover their own inherent character being clinically diagnosed with “gender dysphoria” by a psychiatric community of quacks, which conjured most PC terminology out of thin air. We have boys who are told that they are stunted for acting out their natural male impulses and girls who are told that true femininity is weakness and that they should act more masculine. We have a mainstream culture that coddles and infantilizes young adults, young girls who think promiscuity is the key to womanhood and that motherhood is disgusting (which I find rather ironic), and young men who have no testicular fortitude and no clue how to take charge of their own lives.

The American family unit has been completely destroyed. We have women who are ashamed to set aside careers to raise children because feminism frowns upon “breeders” who bring down the whole gender. We have men who abandon their children and refuse to take responsibility. And we have a weak-minded population addicted to collective affirmation and unwilling to think outside the box for fear of being shunned and shamed. Honestly, I can’t see a single redeeming quality to political correctness other than the fact that those people who espouse it do so loudly and obnoxiously, making it easier for me to identify and avoid them or to take special note of them as an obvious zombie threat in an America swiftly declining into mundane oblivion.

 

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Wed, 02/19/2014 - 23:38 | 4455805 TeamDepends
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Forgive them, for they know not what they do.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 23:40 | 4455815 SMG
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And that is why the Devil is called the "Father of Lies".

 

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 23:44 | 4455831 Skateboarder
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That makes Obie the Prince of Lies?

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 23:59 | 4455879 strannick
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Every paragraph resonated like a grand canyon thunderclap for the curtain falling in the American Empire.m, biblical in its rejection of its principles, its primacy and its God. The hollow men are in the march. Bloom saw it coming in 1990 with his epic The Closing of the American Mind

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 00:22 | 4455947 johnQpublic
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which holds that all the beliefs and discoveries of the past mean nothing compared to the beliefs and discoveries of the present

 

reminds me of 1984, that line does

outstanding article

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 00:53 | 4456028 boogerbently
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They are not lucid enough to 

" create one (a cause to champion) out of thin air and defend it relentlessly, regardless of how shallow it truly was."

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 01:40 | 4456171 Four chan
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pc is, like "banning a man a steak, because a baby cant chew it". o&e and jim norton

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 03:01 | 4456325 Bananamerican
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"the mainstream media have made a point to focus on “gender optional” issues as if they represent some kind of civil rights uprising."

Someone posted up recently an article about an African-American herpetolgist's crusade against Novartis' WIDELY used pesticide, Atrazine...... he found that the herbicide caused hormonal abnormalities. ....said it was causing hermaphrodism, genital mutations, gender flipping...The chemical company, of course, went after him with everything they had, trying to dis-credit the source...countering with paid research papers...the usual corpoRAT horseshit....

Ever since I read that i wonder about this sudden upsurge in "Transgender" rights stories

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 03:15 | 4456348 jmp esp
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The US is saturated with xenoestrogens. As a nation, we're being physiologically feminized.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 06:23 | 4456499 HyBrasilian
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Many people have been banned from ZH for not being 'politically correct'. But ~ at least we still have fonestar!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:11 | 4456541 new game
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excuse me! but my family unit is strong as hell. united I stand divided you fall. of course this is what they(the enemy within) do best, for statist, new age, mind control. always back to the individual and my actions. Weak individuals, dumbed to the point of no critical thinking - a war wagged for your mind. some things never change. if the boat is sinking then get off! row the fucker to somewhere else...

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:43 | 4456581 negative rates
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Row row row ur boat, gently down into the fire, merrily merrily merrily merrily, the pain of life is not a dream.  

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:59 | 4456604 new game
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hey, no pain no gain. i'm awake-no time to dream right now...

nice day to you!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 08:52 | 4456704 sleigher
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I miss francis sawyer.  I really liked reading his posts.  Very harsh but refreshing at the same time.  

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:12 | 4457863 NemoDeNovo
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#FreeFrancisSawyer  

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:38 | 4457377 Umh
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Haven't paid attention to the particular users that are missing, but there is a difference between being politically incorrect and just being obnoxious.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:25 | 4457953 DaddyO
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Please explain the difference for us low brow types...

DaddyO

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:26 | 4457584 Edelweiss
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This is the sort of comment I don't see much of on ZH.  Unfortunately. Regardless of what causes, and methods you would attribute it to, only a fool would deny how feminized the U.S. has become.  I gave up on most mainstream "entertainment" several years ago.  Tired of watching weak minded, ineffectual male characters portrayed as perpetual children that require the guidance of a smart/beautiful/hip, etc. woman.  I work in a setting with quite a few women, and have had some of them complain to me that alot of the men they know are too girly, and don't have a strong sense of direction in their lives.  Agreed.  There are few examples of positive(assertive,self-sufficient,critically thinking) masculine behaviors in pop culture.  I think those of us middle aged, and older, see it more readily.  I've encountered countless younger guys who are happy to tow the PC/feminist line.  As the author points out, people(men and women) are often afraid to be labeled racist, homophobe, misogynist, xenophobe, and the list goes on.  If you don't have a tolerance for rejection by friends, family, and others, you stand little chance of not being swept up in whatever the crowd deems worthwhile/valuable at the time.  I suspect ZH has a fairly high percentage of "outsiders" represented here.  I've gotten to the point where I ignore people only capable of regurgitating someone elses poorly thought out truths. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 01:11 | 4456089 Anusocracy
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"outstanding article"

Yes it is.

Control and the collective are very powerful survival traits in nature. Ants have been around for over 100 million years, have a class structure, enslaved other ants, developed animal husbandry, and can organize into armies. Mother Nature's example of a successful control/collective society.

The downside is that in human society, control/collectivization are anti-progress and anti-civilization - simply because they utilize people as objects (ants) and enact numerous restrictions on their abilities (slaves).

Freedom works in the opposite: allowing people self-control as individuals, but utilizing their abilities through a reward and failure system to create progress and enhance the quality of civilization.

It is not abnormal for control/collective government to destroy progress and civilization, it's just doing what it was designed to do in nature.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 06:05 | 4456488 Kobe Beef
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Yes, and the people who invented "political correctness" were certainly more interested in collectivism than liberty. The article above does a good job of describing the noxious effects of PC today.

So where does PC come from?

http://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/

In short, it is a hostile, foreign ideology and explicitly Un-American. It's practitioners are either consciously destructive Marxists or deluded "useful idiots".

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 08:17 | 4456626 max2205
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Damn it.....do I buy or sell after reading this?!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:20 | 4456741 weburke
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buy ! the theater owners long ago (mid-sixties) decreed this road, and gay marriage is the crown jewel. Of course, betrayal is at the base of their designs, so that wont END well, but as a set up, it works well for the theater script. ps, sell all in july 2015                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCgZxrf8nrU

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:08 | 4456970 Kobe Beef
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I repeat, PC is a foreign, hostile ideology, and the fact it is promoted as the State Religion of the USSA, should tell you much about who has hijacked our Republic.

Still more..

http://www.stirringtroubleinternationally.com/2011/03/26/political-corre...

You think you can trade this. As an Outsider? I urge you to get realistic. The Civil War cannot be avoided: prepare to win; or prepare to die.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:52 | 4457170 Creeps
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Gay marriage is a stepping stone to the children, pedophile is the crown jewel. In twenty years pedophobia will be used as homophobia is today. Keep your families strong, and work on stopping the generational faults, it will pay dividends.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:11 | 4457527 PT
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I agree that gay marriage is a stepping stone.  I can't imagine an end point.  It takes zero brains to sign a piece of paper.  It takes great brains and balls to solve great problems - energy shortages, water shortages, food shortages, pollution etc.  As long as idiots can maintain power by concentrating on nonsensical "problems" that can be "solved" by writing several volumes of crap and signing pieces of paper, the real problems of this world will be ignored.

All PC crap should be countered with statements like, "Who gives a shit?  How do we secure solve our energy needs without war?" or "Fucking get a life.  People are starving.  We need to grow more food."  and "You think you can buy a house if only you work harder?  The banksters stole your house and now they are stealing your life and all you want to talk about is ..."

Any idiot can sign a piece of paper.  Who can build dams and pipelines?  Who can develop alternative energy systems?  Who can design efficient cities?  Why aren't those people in charge?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:58 | 4457768 Kobe Beef
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Amen.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:28 | 4456797 Sean7k
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Anusocracy,

I saw nothing outstanding in this article at all. Painting with a very broad brush, Brandon attacked an idea while failing to address the issue at hand- personal responsibility and individual courage.

It takes courage to stand in the face of tyranny and even potential loss. There is a very real difference betwen PC and tolerance and Brandon's take on the fifth grader violated this line- you see PC has different "faces". He complains about the leftist one, but remans ignorant of the conservative one. The reason?  The conservative often holds to older social mores he embraces.

The fifth grader probably plays with dolls and likes to dress up, etc. This is not sexual. The press may try to use these terms, but the child just identifies with girls. Dress up in a tutu to get a look up a girl's dress? really? We are so caught up on genitalia and its' power over us we might as well be Puritans or Succabus.

It is difficult to teach tolerance in balance. It is not an either or, black and white for most people. Yes, the press plays the hell out of it (Heglian dialectic), but we must be wise enough to raise our children to recognize sensationalism while developing empathy and understanding. 

This article demonstrates how insecure and fearful we can become in the face of tyranny. We lash out at each intrusion of our liberty. However, if we are to turn this tide, we must remember the power resides in The People. Regardlss of how many laws are passed, we must accept them for them to have validity. Thus, PC is meaningless unless we allow it to be. 

I have taught my children tolerance AND empathy. They are a powerful construct for the social "zombies" America is creating. It has healing properties. I'm afraid this revulsion of PC does not. PC exists because of the transgressions of the past. It will become impotent in the face of true tolerance. 

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:02 | 4456932 runningman18
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There is a line of what people should "tolerate".  If you are fine with boys being present during your daughter's bathroom rituals, then invite her classmates over to your house and have a ball (see how that goes over).  But don't try to use the state as a tool to force acceptance of that paradigm and don't try to use naive children as a way to further your agenda.  Your position basically promotes the morally relative in the name of gaining majority acceptance and consensus, but who gives a shit about consensus?  Why should we abandon our valid concerns just because you personally happen to see them as "insecure"?  Why should we care about your opinion?  In the end, your post said nothing except that we should roll over apathetically because, in theory, that would make things easier.  If we roll over for the PC agenda now, it will not change a thing, because as the author points out, it is an endless bid for superiority and control; it is not about some horseshit conception of tolerance.   

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:17 | 4457013 Sean7k
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Can you read for comprehension? 

Which part of my comment refers to state interference? Morals are not relative? Really? What makes your concerns "valid"? You dismiss my opinions, but yours should be followed without a supporting argument? Where did I say we should "rollover and accept PC?

Allowing your anger to feed your emotions is exactly way we have to deal with PC issues. If you understood tolerance and practiced it, we wouldn't be where we are today.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:26 | 4457065 runningman18
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You're not paying attention.  I said YOUR morals are relative based on an artificial measure of "tolerance".  You are asking us to act the same way (apathetic in the face of social manipulation) for the sake of some nonsensical ideal of social harmony which doesn't exist and will never exist.  I'm just calling bullshit on your claim that your "going with the flow" theory will improve anything. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:54 | 4457177 Sean7k
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No, I am paying attention and your refusal to address my concerns is intellectual cowardice. 

You have no idea what tolerance means. It is not an artificial measure or relative. Words have meaning. "Going with the flow" is never mentioned by me, this is YOUR assumption. However, liberty encourages us to enjoy individual actions and beliefs AS LONG AS THEY DON'T HARM OTHERS. 

Social harmony is a great goal and one worth working towards. Just because your ideal of conservation has failed to produce it doesn't mean it is unattainable. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:08 | 4457238 runningman18
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No, I've address your concerns (opinions) aptly.  But you certainly seem to be trying to avoid my points and questions, so who is the coward?

If the state is being used by PC groups to force their particular philosophy, a philosophy many of us find contrary to our principles and which we find socially destructive, into public schools which we pay for, do you believe that we should "tolerate" that?  Why shouldn't we ask that the PC crowd "tolerate" our concerns and stop trying to force their agenda upon us using government? 

And social harmony is unattainable because people will never completely agree on anything or everything.  The moment humanity does, it will be dead, because continued healthy disagreement is necessary for our survival.  "Tolerance" only goes so far.

 

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:27 | 4457325 Sean7k
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Then I guess you will argue that Plessy v Ferguson was a valid ruling and that schools should have remained separate? That neighborhoods should be allowed to dictate whom can live there? 

Yes, I believe you should tolerate that, however, you have the ability to take your children out of school. No one has taken away your ability to teach your children YOUR values. Who is harmed?  

Your willingness to punish the child seems much worse to me, a complete violation of his liberty and person, because you want to enforce your belief system on him. 

Whether social harmony is attainable in the perfect sense is debatable, but working towards it, rather than in the opposite direction is not. Nor is your conclusion it would kill humanity valid lacking any supporting argument. In fact, when people get along, it enhances production and wealth, both physical and spiritual.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:07 | 4457469 runningman18
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That's true.  I could take my children out of school.  In fact, I plan to (once I'm in a homeschooler friendly state) since public schools have become completely compliant with the demands of a minority of PC advocates.  But let's apply your "logic" in the opposite direction, shall we...

The parents of the transgendered boy could just as easily homeschool THEIR child, right? Right?! Why not do that instead of using the state to force the school to allow HIM (he's still a boy) to violate the privacy concerns of all the girls within that school and their families?   

Your method of handling the situation is to force your particular definition of tolerance on others, or force parents to remove their kids from the school all so that a transgendered child can use a bathroom he doesn't need to use.  I'm not forcing my belief system on him, you and his parents are trying to force your belief system on everyone else.

As far as segregation is concerned, segregation in public schools was a violation of consitutional rights to free access to taxpayer funded public facilities within one's own community.  Those rights do not, however, extend to violating the privacy rights of others.  Your point has no merit.  Plessy v Ferguson was not about allowing little black boys into the little girls bathroom. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:40 | 4457662 Sean7k
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Yes, they could, but it is a "public" school. This is where your argument falls apart. Public means inclusive, not exclusive, just as segregation of black and white in no different than trangender and gender specific.  While I am not of a mind to support State coercion, it appears to have been the only means left to the parents.

Segregation was not a violation of Constitutional rights at that time, just like  women's suffrage, slavery and poll taxes until they were deemed otherwise. The Constitution has rarely protected rights until people clamored to receive them. 

There is NO privacy right to a bathroom (The right itself is not mentioned, but part of a ruling extending the definition). Plessy v Ferguson was about segregation. To claim it doesn't apply is just ignorance of the Constitution.

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:27 | 4458219 runningman18
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I'm laughing right now over your cognitive dissonance.  If a public school is meant to be "inclusive", then shouldn't it be inclusive to the privacy concerns of parents opposed to boys in the girls bathroom?  The fact that the boy is "transgendered" is meaningless.  

No privacy rights to a bathroom?  Are you really so obstinant that you can't even acknowledge a little girl's right to use the bathroom without a boy present? Why don't you try strolling into a women's restroom anywhere in the country and then try explaining to the cops that those women have no right to privacy?

By your logic, these children should all be given a single gender inclusive trough to squat over.

Segregation in schools was indeed a violation of the people's right to access of public property and use of taxpayer funded services, just like police and firefighters are public services that cannot discriminate.  Segregation in private businesses, however, was not a violation of the constitution, and frankly, any private business still has the right to refuse service to anyone, and that's as it should be.

Boys and girls bathrooms are "segregated" for practical reasons.  Again, your comparison is irrelevant. Plessy v Ferguson did not violate the privacy rights of the children at the school.  The decision in Maine DOES.    

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 15:14 | 4458690 Sean7k
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So, you have no understanding of what inclusive means? No dictionary? 

Please show me where privacy rights in a bathroom exist? Do you even understand rights or their priority? As for troughs, the Greeks and Romans used them, you are showing your ignorance. This is not a right, but a social more. I don't stroll into a woman's bathroom, because I respect women. We haven't developed mores for transgender children, but rights can provide a template. We have a right to freedom of expression, that would be numero uno. Privacy is a court created exemption with less and less application. Priority, it's the law.

If segregation violated one's rights , than why was it the law? Police can't discriminate? You're really going to go there? That's laughable. People had to go to court to stop racial profiling in New York and it is still up in the air.

What is the practical reason they are segregated? This I have to hear.

I never said Plessy v Fergson violated privacy rights, but segregation. See, you really need to read for comprehension. Oh, and try a dictionary and maybe a legal dictionary as well. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 15:36 | 4458793 runningman18
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And we're full circle again.  The bottom line is, either you respect the privacy rights of others or you do not.  There is no other relevant debate here.  Yes, Greek and Roman SLAVES were forced to use gender inclusive troughs, and had no privacy.  They also had rampant child molestation and nailed Christians to crosses.  Are you suggesting we step back into those kind of moral conditions?

Your right to "free expression" does not allow you to walk into a woman's bathroom, even wearing a dress.  It should not allow a boy to walk into a girls bathroom in a public school.  Screw his psychological gender status.  IT DOES NOT MATTER.  You say you would not walk into a women's bathroom because you "respect women", but apparently you do not repect young girls or their parents who want the same privacy.  This is called hypocrisy.   

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:28 | 4459045 Sean7k
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Actually all romans and greeks used communal toilets. You may visit the city of Vienne to see an example. The bottom line is this: you cannot hide behind a Constitution you are ignorant of but you can call for a privledge that only exists in your mind. The morals of the Greeks and Romans were no worse than ours, possibly better.

The first amendment has allowed that boy to enter the bathroom. "Screw his pyschological gender status"? Spoken like a true tyrant. Further, being unable to distinguish or prioritize the "rights" of others merely means you're simpleminded. 

Hypocrisy also has a definition. My argument has been consistent, as has yours, it is just yours fails to have validity in a Constitutional framework. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 20:35 | 4459787 runningman18
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Your argument is completely outside the Constitution, which you have obviously never read.  How does a boy's demand that he be allowed in a girls bathroom amount to "freedom of expression"?   Do you really believe the drivel you are spewing?  I'm intrested to keep your circular arguments going just to see what surreal nonsense you come up with next.

The First Amendment does not supercede the 4th.  You cannot violate the privacy of others and then call it "freedom of expression", first amendment protections do not work that way. If they did, then almost any activity could be construed as "freedom of expression".  Why not take a video camera into the women's bathroom and call it an "art film"?  What about just placing the stalls on the sidewalk so that pedestrians can enjoy the show?  Why not erase all privacy, that way no one ever feels "left out"?

Your evasivness aside, it is clear that most PC cultists like you hold the superficial desires of artificial victim groups as more important than constitutional rights.  You treat the personal social desires of these people as absolute, and the rest of us are just supposed to cater to their whims.  You're willing to rationalize just about anything to avoid admitting your cognitive dissonance.

Yes, I say screw his psychological gender status, and screw his "freedom of expression" (bullshit) if it entails the trampling of other people's rights.  I couldn't care less if this boy is happier in the girls bathroom.  His happiness is irrelevant when compared to the privacy of others.  The great downfall of your argument is that you are willing to twist the constitution (or fabricate your own outlandish interpretations) to suit your particular world view regardless of who gets trampled in the process.  I and those like me will not allow that to happen.  So, we are at an impasse, and most impasses tend to be settled violently.  What do you think the chances are of the PC control freaks when that happens?    

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 23:17 | 4460629 Sean7k
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Are you just stupid. There IS NO RIGHT TO PRIVACY in a bathroom. NADA, none, never has been. The fourth amendment is not in play, because it DOESN"T APPLY. If you don't like the first, try the 14th. Take your pick. 

Make an argument using the words of the fourth amendment. Freely available on the internet. 

You will not allow it to happen? What are you going to do tough guy? What a rube. Hell, you sit in chains, a slave of the State and your going to bet it all separate bathrooms? Classic.

There is a difference beween PC and tolerance and Constitutional rights. I realize your not capable of understanding that nor making an argument beyond, "because I say so". This is how all tyrants react. You can't make an argument so you try threats and violence. 

Maybe you're just afraid someone of the opposite sex might see your genitalia. You prefer to keep it locked up in a secret place. Good luck with that.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 01:00 | 4460871 Anusocracy
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"However, liberty encourages us to enjoy individual actions and beliefs AS LONG AS THEY DON'T HARM OTHERS."

Precisely. That, and the concept of other people's property are sadly lacking.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 02:43 | 4461026 runningman18
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As I said, you hold that there are "no privacy rights" where they happen to conflict with YOUR personal ideology.  You have not presented one single concrete argument as to why a boy should be allowed to use the girls bathroom at a public school.  Your only position is that the privacy rights of the girls and their parents don't exist, or do not matter.  This is not an argument so much as a fascist position.  Yours is the typical attitude of an elitist. 

I will stand against anyone who attempts to use the state to trample my privacy rights or the rights of others, and I am far from alone.  The issue in Maine is only one of thousands of examples of PC oppression, and yes, if you want to use the force of state against me to assert your personal dogma, then I will respond with force in kind.  The real question is, what are you going to do once the fighting starts?  PC activists are only brave when they think they have the power of government behind them.  What happens when the government tosses you to the wind after exploiting your gullibility?     

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 08:13 | 4461287 Sean7k
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What's the matter? Can't read the 4th amendment? Can find privacy rights? You want to classify people that stand up for civil rights as "PC", incapable of making the distinction between the two. Well, you have succeeded in ascerbating the divisions between us, so in your case, the Elites win. 

Enjoy your stand, I hope you don't get too lonely outside the bathroom.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 17:19 | 4459266 TimmyB
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You seem not to understand this, but let me explain something to you:  girls do not stand next to each other peeing into urinals.  Instead, women and girls sit down in private stalls.  These stalls have locking doors.  

So please explain how allowing a child with male genitalia to use a private stall in a girl's room harms anyone. 

  

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 20:18 | 4459932 runningman18
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Perhaps you have the intelligence of a sack of bricks, or have never been around children, but girls do not like sitting in stalls next to boys while they do their business, even if there is an aluminum divider between them.  How many women's bathrooms have you strolled into lately?  Do you think the response would be positive or negative?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 23:21 | 4460650 Sean7k
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Finally, an authority on what children like and don't like. Must be some kind of wonderful to have such a breathtaking degree of knowledge.Then you deride the intelligence of others? Did you even attend school?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:20 | 4457297 TuPhat
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Sean, the statement "I have taught my children tolerance and empathy"  when your whole comment concerns PC, can only mean tolerance and empathy for those who are pushing PC.  What else did you expect it to mean.  If you want others to understand, then write more coherently.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:30 | 4457346 Sean7k
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Why? Am I to assume that readers here are incapable of complex thought? That they are too stupid to make distinctions? I have to believe the readers here are smarter than that.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:35 | 4457363 InflammatoryResponse
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Some boy tries to go potty with either of my girls his  boy parts will be on the floor and he'll be bleeding.

 

a transgendered 5th grader is absurd.  far too many folks have just gone off the rails.

 

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 01:38 | 4460941 TimmyB
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What kind of brutes approve of beating, mauling, and disfiguring 5th graders because they don't conform?

Answer: The fucking fascists who uprated the above post.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 08:21 | 4461297 Sean7k
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What kind of moron up arrows a post that threatens a fifth grader with castration? The person making the post is a foregone conclusion, but what is wrong with you people? Yeah, let's encourage the tough guy that assaults children. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:05 | 4456962 TimmyB
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Interesting how many bigots, including the author, begin by stating: I'm not prejudiced, but..... They seem to believe that stating that you are not a bigot gives you a license to be one.

Finally, given all the praise this article has received, it is evident that many here who complain about government interference in their lives are quite happy to have the government interfere in the most personal details of other people's lives, especially when those people are different from them.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:19 | 4457027 runningman18
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Who here called for the government to interfere in anything?  Most people here want the government to leave them alone.  It's the PC statists that constantly call for government intervention and approval in our personal lives. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:39 | 4458025 Rafferty
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Lenin said 'destroy the family, destroy society'.  And he said it approvingly, in that once familial and societal bonds are broken a dictatorship of whatever sort is easier to implement.  While some of the PC gauleiters probably believe they're doing right, the people orchestrating things from behind the curtain know exactly what they're doing. 

 

And it's set to get worse.  http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2013/04/the-opostles-of-degradation.html

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:50 | 4459120 TimmyB
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The child in question goes to a government run school.  The government is exactly what is keeping this child from using a stall in the girl's room.  What right does the government have to tell a child what restroom stall that child must use?    

Most people here are cheering on the side of government interference and decision making concerning a child's most intimate and personal details.  But that's right, as long as the government puts its full weight behind enforcing the moral code YOU believe in, its all good.  But if the government decides to take its foot off the throat of someone you disapprove of, the government is run by PC statists.  I follow your actual logic, but it isn't close to being what you claim it is.                           

 

 

 

 

   

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 01:11 | 4460896 Anusocracy
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The idea of control is to benefit those in control.

It is difficult for many to reject it even though voluntary interaction is more beneficial.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:51 | 4459130 TimmyB
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Double post deleted.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:23 | 4456774 DeadFred
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 "And we have a weak-minded population addicted to collective affirmation and unwilling to think outside the box for fear of being shunned and shamed."

-for that we have ZeroHedge

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 08:03 | 4456579 unrulian
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    These people were rationally retarded. Every idea they proposed they merely parroted from books and articles they had read. They were like malfunctioning automatons trapped in a cycle of discontented social criticism.

wait a second....every idea i find myself parroting lately is from articles i read on zerohedge, i feel like a malfunctioning automaton, i guess i'm rationally retarded

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 08:58 | 4456721 runningman18
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There's a difference between considering a point, finding it to be true, and then repeating it to others, and blindly repeating a claim you never really considered just because it conveniently reaffirms your cult-like bias.  Politically correct people usually do the latter.   

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:31 | 4456805 Firing Pin
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Exactly. Try using "logic" in a debate with a far left collectivist; you will quickly see that you are indeed debating a shrill parrot. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:32 | 4457827 Kobe Beef
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My favorite liberal logical conundrum: How can there be any Diversity, if we are all the same?

Twists 'em up like pretzels. Then they throw a fit. "Bigot! Racist! Sexist!", whatever. As if words changed facts. I know lots of 'em.

Personally what I find is that the typical PC leftist (ie, useful idiot) is a reasonably intelligent person. Usually they were among the smarter of their peers, and ostracized, bullied, or denigrated during their grade school years. High Verbal, low Math, and thus off to the Multikult Programming Facility known as the Liberal Arts Department of a higher tier University. Since bitching, whining, and "critique" aren't valued skills in the Productive Private Sector, they either stay in the Programming Facility for an advanced degree in Sociology or Law, take to the MSM, or go to work for the government.

Now they have the Institutional Power, and nobody will ever say anything about anyone that could possibly hurt their feelings. It's not logical. It's repressed rage. They're acting out of pure childish anger at the unfairness of it all. Other kids made fun of them. Other kids had more. And now our immature PC leftist has been given license to attack and destroy them. It's the Revenge of the Nerds. They need to grow up.

Now, the Producers of the PC disease are a different breed entirely. They're truly dangerous. Ask a Kulak. Don't let the Chekists find you at your Bloomberg terminal bargaining your life away.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 00:02 | 4455893 strannick
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Every paragraph resonated like a grand canyon thunderclap for the curtain falling in the American Empire.m, biblical in its rejection of its principles, its primacy and its God. The hollow men are in the march. Bloom saw it coming in 1990 with his epic The Closing of the American Mind

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 00:25 | 4455958 BLOTTO
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Basically they are trying to flip everything beautiful and natural, etc...on its head and make it filth. As above, so below.

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'They' are trying to break apart and attack us on the major fronts which include but not limited to - destroy the religions,

destroy the financials, destroy genders and destroy family.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 01:02 | 4456063 Erudite Redneck
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Isaiah 5:20

King James Version (KJV)

20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 01:26 | 4456130 Blues Traveler
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We are going the way of the Franch, post French Rev where the new constitution, Rights of man,  put the will of the people above the indidivual, put equality above the law, placed academia and intellectuals in office where in the US historically the pragmatic man rose to power and ruel.  And French outlawed Spiritual Beliefs and replaced with a cult of Reason.  They fucked themselves and will never unfucked themsleves bc the heart of man is easily corrupted.  US Founding Fathers knew this as they escaped political, social and religious persecutions.

How in the oblunder failed policies, can they re-interpet the constitution in these areas?????

Press is treason.

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 02:18 | 4456195 New World Chaos
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You are right about turning what is beautiful to shit.  Few see it as part of an occult agenda to destroy Western culture.  Political correctness is also deviously brilliant in the way it divides and conquers by creating an entitlement mentality which inevitably leads to resentment, and in the way it destroys institutions like family and church that would otherwise compete with the government.  The State must be the final arbiter of morality, education, and who gets to eat. 

Via a combination of welfare and illegal immigration, political correctness creates an exponentially growing underclass with third world values.  They will attack the remnants of the middle class when the time is right.  All it will take is an official statement along the lines of "Your benefits won't buy TP because Whitey isn't giving enough.  Help us help you get what you are entitled to!"

And then there is feminism, which has replaced love with resentment and selfishness, ruining families.  There is a reason why honest men are always made chumps, mere resources to be strip-mined to feed insatiable appetites for consumer crap.  This may be human nature, but the legal system is actively making things worse.  They are trying to breed the honesty out of us!  

http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/feminists-are-ugly/

BTW, here's a Keynesian road to prosperity:  Let's all sue each other over imagined insults!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 06:34 | 4456510 Johnny Cocknballs
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The problem is Christianity is horseshit, and should never have been imposed on Western Culture.  Nietzche is, for you, worth reading - at least summaries of.  But you can take or leave his arguments, of course.

However, Christianity imposes on a great many of us conceptions and valuations that we reject.  Neither you, nor our faith, have any right to dictate how another lives their life, so long as they are doing no harm to others in a reasonably direct way.

I'll take the occult over Christianity's cult any day.

 

Both are full of shit, but the occult seems a little bit closer to the Old Gods.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:51 | 4456586 new game
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religion has only one purpose - control as many people as it can lure. spirituality is a different story. it is individual and can adhere to a set fo beliefs that are in harmony with the natural laws(truths). humans hijack these for control of the majority. pc is a perfect example. pc could be a religion. it takes a village of idiots to be collectivly controlled and be clueless as to ones plight...

christians for the most part are a bunch of pussies controlled by their right half of their brain-helpless-god in control, which is bullshit. ultimately slaves by belief...

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:37 | 4457372 InflammatoryResponse
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New Game,

 

you're not up to speed on Christianity. :)

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:34 | 4456826 Firing Pin
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You've  confused organized religion with the Word of God. Big difference...and one that you might learn to differentiate. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:43 | 4456860 pazmaker
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Johny,  I would say you have a profound misunderstanding on what Christianity is.  Although I don't know you I would venture to guess you base this opinion on what you have seen from western christianity and how it is potrayed to you but probably have never really dug down deep into the teachings of the early ancient church and the church fathers....What some call Eastern Christianity

pre schism...   Because ultimately Christianity is about one's free will and love not the world's love but God's love which is an unselfish consuming love for others above self.

 

Of all things Chrisitianity should not be is Imposing on anyone.

 

I don't mind all the down arrows so feel free to give me one.  Many of us who claim to be Christian miss the mark on a daily basis(including me) and it requires daily self examination I would say to all other Christians on here to please remember Matthew 7:5 before being to critical of anyone believers and non believers alike.

Johny,

 

I feel very offended at what you say about Christianity, but yet I know that I and all other Christians are the cause of what you say about us and think about us, for if we would truely love the Christian life, then you would not have the opinion you have of us.   So to you Johny,  my apologies for not being the Christian example I should be.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:51 | 4456901 Sean7k
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Pazmaker, I love your consistency. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 02:05 | 4456223 Harbanger
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Political correctness was created by the Progressive left to control speech, shape beliefs and silence oppositon to their multicultural globalist agenda. It's worked wonderfully at creating confusion and false equivalents in our collective minds.  That's why the usual programmed answer I get when questioning the left/right paradigm, is that there's no difference. Most people don't even make the connection of political correctness with our cultural breakdown and transformation into slaves of the statists.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 04:07 | 4456390 prains
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Political correctness was created by the Progressive left

<---ZH has been taken over by BALL lickers

are you absolutely sure the conservative christian right was not ALSO a part of the SAME political correctness paradigm??? If you say NO then you're full of shit. Trying to divide "left" from "right" around political correctness is as stoopid as most of your arguements are.....stoopid. Why do you waste your time trying to drawing air to your lungs? Stoopid ain't contagious, it's taught and learnt by dumb-fucks......like yoursulf

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:04 | 4456730 runningman18
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How many true conservatives promote political correctness as it is outlined in our universities today?  How many PC gatekeepers identify themselves as conservative, or Christian?  Give specifics.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:35 | 4456832 Firing Pin
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He/she can't, since they don't. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:36 | 4456840 Sean7k
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Take a look at your language: "true conservatives". This is PC for the conservatives. You are promoting an agenda based on a PC belief. Pot, kettle, black.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:52 | 4456905 fonzannoon
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He is promoting an agenda that is way more strange than that.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:12 | 4456991 runningman18
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No, your confused about the definition of political correctness.  PC culture is very particular in its views, and most if not all of them conflict with conservatism.  A conservative has certian undeniable political and social values that have been outlined for generations.  You cannot, for example, promote socialism and still call yourself a conservative (this is why neo-conservatives are not true conservatives).  That's not political correctness, that's the nature of the definition of the ideal. 

Political Correctness also has it's own set of specific ideals.  So, the questions stands:  How many true conservatives promote the ideals of PC culture?  Name them.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:28 | 4457076 Sean7k
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You have no idea what PC is. PC is not "particular" in its' views, it is the exact opposite, it is overly generalized and lacks any definition. Your definition of conservative is no different from a bigot. Conservative refers to a maintance of the existing paradigm, though as that paradigm changes, you find yourself grasping for the past. This confuses the conservative, because now, different people have different versions of what the past "is".

You are stuck in the dialectic and that is where the statists want you. You have taken your eye off the prize: liberty with responsiblity. 

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:43 | 4457121 runningman18
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No, political correctness does indeed encompasse a subculture of people who hold specific political and social views, which revolve mostly around the perceived discrimination of "victim groups" and minorites, but to an extreme degree and to the point of the use of state and force.  Of course, it has extended beyond that realm recently into things such as global warming, socialized healthcare, and so on.  The PC ideal has always been adopted by people who identify with the left, or liberalism.  People who identify with the "right", or consevatism, rarely promote PC ideals.  If you want to enter into an absurd debate over the defintion of political correctness, debate it with the people who espouse it.  They'll tell you the same things I've told you.   

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:11 | 4457254 Sean7k
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Funny, I find PC depends on the individual. People will defend some ideas, but not others. You are saying that discrimination is perceived and not real? Really? Did the state not enforce discrimnation? Oh wait, it's OK as long as you approve of it, if it fits in with your morals. Where does PC fit in with socialized heathcare? People can't have a political position without it being PC?

Conservatives never promote a PC agenda? Do they not advance intolerance? Rich versus Poor? Religious versus Agnosticism? Clothing styles? etc. 

You think you are fighting against something, but in reality, you are the fight itself. An ugly beast pounding itself while the Elites laugh and poke sticks. Stop fighting those you have the most in common with (Slavery) and work to free yourself and all of us from the cage.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:27 | 4457330 runningman18
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You would be wrong.  You are welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, but the fact is PC ideals are pretty well defined.  They may inject additions over time, but they've been standardized for decades now, and they are predominantly promoted by people who identify with the left end of the spectrum.  You might know that spectrum is partly artificial, but that doesn't change the fact that they identify with it.  

You're also playing a game of apples and oranges.  I don't agree with state sponsored discrimination, but I also won't except PC based social engineering.  In fact, I think the state should keep it's nose out of social issues entirely.  Why does anyone, including gay couples, for example, want to go to the federal government for marriage approval?  Just get married.  Stop looking for government goodies and tax breaks and stop asking permission.

The only things I'm fighting against are statism and elitism.  PC culture (as has been defined) is part of that problem, and tolerance of it is not the answer. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:42 | 4457387 Sean7k
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Then please define them. 

There is no game of apples and oranges. Were my examples of state discrimination true? Is not the inability to discriminate state coercion?

Why do heterosexual couples go to the state? Do they not get "goodies". 

Tolerance is always the answer. It is the basis of a society that abhors the State and the Law. It is true liberty, in markets and social life, with responsibility for one's actions when they intrude on the liberty of others. 

You want the world on YOUR terms. That is the definition of tyranny.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:34 | 4457616 runningman18
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Sure, all you have to do is read what the PC cult demands from the rest of society to understand what defines their ideals:

http://listverse.com/2010/10/26/10-ridiculous-cases-of-political-correct...

http://www.capc.co.uk/ridiculous_political_correctness.htm

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/20-outrageous-examples-that-show-how-po...

http://www.careerbuilder.com/Article/CB-2726-Job-Info-Trends-14-politica...

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/penns-water-buffalo-incident-20-years/2/

Why would anyone want to go to the Federal Government to ask permission for marriage? 

As I pointed out earlier, Tolerance goes both ways.  Where is the tolerance of the parents of the transgendered boy and the state when it comes to the privacy concerns of other parents and children in the school?  You simply want people to tolerate your concerns while sacrificing their own.  It is YOU that is the tyrant.  Just because you or anyone else is offended by our concerns does not necessarily make you right.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:43 | 4457681 JR
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For those who would downplay the significance of this raging debate, one principle must be remembered. If the Christian culture on which the foundations of America were laid is to be pushed aside, then it most definitely will be replaced with something else.

And it behooves all of those persons who would say it doesn’t matter, or there’s no danger, to identify just what culture is being moved in to take the place of this Christian era.  What cultural subversion is posed to replace the Bible in America?  Is it the Talmud, is it Alex Portnoy, or is it as Time magazine claims, Woody Allen?

It was Professor Stanley Fish who birthed political correctness on America’s campuses, authoring an essay in 1992 that announced “There’s no such Thing as Free Speech and It’s a Good Thing Too.  And “Good” got redefined by the Apostle of Political Correctness as “the will of those in power.”

It was Time, beginning in 1970, that was in the forefront of announcing the Jewish takeover of American culture. It was Time that in 1977 crowned Woody Allen as an American genius. These are the findings of Samuel H. Dresner in Can Families Survive in Pagan America? published in 1995.

Claimed Time: “The United States is becoming more Jewish… Among American intellectuals the Jew has even become a culture hero.” Time quoted poet Robert Lowell: “Jewishness is the center of today’s literature much as the West was in the ‘30s.”

Twenty years later, according to Dresner, Time repeated the theme, “Jews are news. It is an axiom of journalism. An indispensable one, too, because it is otherwise impossible to explain why the deeds and misdeeds of a dot-on-the-map Israel get an absurdly disproportion amount of news coverage around the world.”

Likewise, Leo Pfeffer of the American Jewish Congress and constitutional lawyer arrived in Philadelphia in October of 1976 to announce the Jewish takeover of American discourse. In his talk, “Issues that Divide: the Triumph of Secular Humanism,” Pfeffer in the words of one critic, “declared victory in the culture wars and announced the Jews had defeated the Christians in their 40 years war over American culture.”

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:15 | 4457871 Sean7k
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The Christian culture that placed wealth above equality before the law? The one that blesses war and all its' practices? Pedophilia? Subjugating Women? The placing of one race above all others? The priviledged class of priests living off the believers dime while castigating their every action unless it conforms to a rigid code made up by the same priests? Etc, etc, etc.

Our culture has never changed. It is defined by the State, Law and Slavery. 5000 years of slavery and manipulation at the hands of a chosen few. Religion, wealth, class, prejudice, these are the tools of our overlords. You cannot create change from the machines of slavery.

Yes, the jews are an intimate part of this machinery, but so is the christian church. 

There is only one road to liberty and it doesn't have a toll.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:31 | 4457974 JR
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The culture you describe is not Christian, not wealth, not inequality: it is the culture of a non-believer’s imagination. No, the culture I describe is the culture of freedom, for individuals, for faith, for civility, for independence, for the permanent growth of individual achievement through self government.

Your descriptions are dishonest, blasphemous, incorrect, dangerous, and without foundation. The culture you describe is the residue of a banker-controlled society, soon to be a Marxist socialist society.

The signers of the Declaration of Independence knew what they wanted: “They wanted the opportunities they had founded in a new land permanently guaranteed to themselves and their descendants. They wanted the right to regulate their own affairs so they might assure the greatest good to the greatest number. They wanted a voice in their own government.”

Our job is to zealously safeguard the country they established and the liberties for which they risked so much.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:47 | 4458086 Sean7k
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Please tell me where your christian culture, as you describe, has EVER existed. My descriptions are right on the money or do you deny the actions of protestants and catholics? Do not priests bless the warriors? Do they not extol our righteous cause? The culture I describe is American, Latin American, African, European, Russian- everywhere religion has raised its' head- including christian religions. 

The signers of the Declaration of Independence were a handful of merchantilists, the voting stock of colonial America comprised 3-13% of the population and held slaves. They were the Elites and yes, they knew exactly what they wanted and they have gotten it. Do you not know of Shay's rebellion? 

My job is to reject the contract they forced upon us and eschew their every action and law. The State doesn't give liberty, it is our natural condition.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:24 | 4457805 Sean7k
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So, you think pointing out the most ridiculous examples should allow us to discriminate? None of those examples address a person's right to life/pursuit of happiness. (self expression).

Tolerance does go both ways, but that does not include prejudice. It does not include enforcing YOUR definition of morals on others. YOU need to define the levels of harm and where liberty most applies. We do have rights we treasure above others. The pursuit of happiness is in the top three. Where does bathroom segregation fall? Especially since the "right" to privacy (telephone calls, but nothing else) is laughable at best.

While I would love to see the 4th amendment re-instituted, I fail to see how it subsumes more cherished liberties.

Sure, I'm the tyrant, since I'm the one advocating liberty. Remember, you want to REQUIRE the State to enforce the bathroom separation. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:21 | 4458289 runningman18
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No, I want the state to protect privacy, which is its constitutional mandate.  The school already made their decision to let the boy use the teachers bathroom.  It was the boys parents who decided to use the state to enforce their personal ideals on the school.  The states job is not to make transgendered people "happy" in this situation, it is the state's job to defend privacy. 

Again, you call the concerns of those opposed "intolerant" and "prejudiced".  I frankly couldn't care less what your opinion is.  Your opinion does not supercede the privacy rights of the people involved.  We all have the right to pursue happiness, but not while trampling the privacy rights of others.  As I said before, you try walking into a womens bathroom anywhere and then explain to the cops that the privacy of the women is not important. 

And most examples of PC culture are ridiculous.  These are not isolated incidents.  I could list thousands of them.  PC culture is by it's very nature absurd.  All your clamoring for "tolerance" does not change that.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 15:25 | 4458738 Sean7k
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You need to first identify this "right" you speak of, because it doesn't exist in the Constitution. Read the fourth amendment. A school is not your home, a bathroom is not your mind. There is no right to protect. No Constitutionl mandate. Your ignorant of the Constitution. 

Rosa Parks was arrested too. Is that your failsafe argument? 

Having the student use a teacher's bathroom makes him a pariah. It was well meaning, but it still robs the child. People are not entitled to their mores in the face of existing Constitutional rights.

Unfortunately, you lack the ability to differentiate tolerance from PC culture. Nor law from demogoguery.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:11 | 4457255 fonzannoon
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for once I am not talking about Brandon.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:52 | 4457168 toady
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On the left its 'political correctness', and on the right its 'conservative christian values'.

Both sides attempt to mold values by throwing red meat to their bases. Whenever you hear either term its usually an attempt to denigrate the opposition.

The article above could be written in mirror image, instead of tearing down the intelligence of youth, tear down the wisdom of the old, instead of tearing down the individual, tear down the collective, etc...

See? Two sides of the same coin.

I try to find a balanced middle, but sometimes I feel like I'm the only one.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:14 | 4457273 runningman18
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I'll agree with that, except for your assumption that conservatives are also necessarily christians.  There are plenty of conservative libertarians who are also atheists, and who also hate PC worship.  To the author's credit, though, the article does point out the fact that Christians can have similar problems with the use of force to mold values. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:59 | 4457471 toady
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Yeah, I've never been good at labels.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 08:33 | 4456649 DanDaley
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The progressives have created 7 protected classes of people in this country where there should be one: American citizen.  They do it so they can give preferential treatment to various groups, pander to them and create loyalties (slaves, really)...the old divide-and-conquer.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:16 | 4457281 toady
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Agreed. That's a BIG problem for team red. They're really struggling to find new recruits right now.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 23:49 | 4455846 Oh regional Indian
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PC is how they destroy truth. 

There will always be an "aggrieved" party, thin skinned, taking offense to something.

In a connected world, there is no shortage of dupes and false outrage.

Victim: Truth...

Some thins to ponder....fact Vs. Fiction...

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2013/04/15/fact-or-fiction-stranger/

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:26 | 4456556 new game
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the truth never varies. the natural laws dictate this. the trilium of of understanding controls these truths underwritten by the 7 natural laws.

most people can't grasp this much less apply it to rational thinking and attack the source off control. we are pretty much fucked.

my left 1/2 brain tells me this. my right keeps me lured into the game(matrix of hopium), an ongoing struggle. but the left hemisphere must make a descion soon...

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:45 | 4456583 negative rates
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Interpretation of truth matters, and that's all that counts.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:56 | 4456601 new game
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wrong answer-the truth never varies, interpetation makes you one of them-keep trying...

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:43 | 4456874 Sean7k
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There is nothing more collective than an adherence to "seven truths". Pretty hard to break out of that prison. Liberty is chaos, but when tempered with responsibilty, it becomes the backbone of free society. Still, the liberty must be tempered, not enslaved.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 23:50 | 4455848 mjcOH1
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"Recently, I read a news story about a “transgendered teen” in Maine. When the boy was in the fifth grade, he decided to dress as a girl and demanded to use the girl’s bathroom at his public school, despite having the biological apparatus of a male. This story was international news, folks! Why? I can’t say, except that the mainstream media have made a point to focus on “gender optional” issues as if they represent some kind of civil rights uprising.....

Honestly, I can’t see a single redeeming quality to political correctness other than the fact that those people who espouse it do so loudly and obnoxiously,"

 

It got this kid a state sanctioned pass to all the quality time he wanted in the ladies room without being thrown into the wall a few dozen times for his efforts....which would have seemed like a pretty sweet deal to most 12yr old boys in the late 70s, putting aside the other aspects of the kid's lifestyle choices.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 00:13 | 4455921 Oldwood
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.....wearing a dress....I don't think so

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 01:55 | 4456207 effendi
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If the 12 year old was smart he wouldn't just claim to be transgender but to be a butch tomboy lesbian female trapped in a mans body. Still gets to use the girl toilets, changeroom and showers and gets all the opportunity he/she wants to make out with the girls and play hard sports.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:52 | 4456590 unwashedmass
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not for nothing, but a few FACTS about the case in Maine. The child in question had been dressing as a girl since toddler days. 

And the parents had been on top of this issue, AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL OFFICIALS since the child walked in the door at age four. 

Information on this situation from FoxTV and the wingnut contingent has been horrifically wrong. 

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:39 | 4456857 Firing Pin
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Dressing like that since a toddler? Parents dress toddlers, genius. Do you even kids, bro?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:52 | 4456591 unwashedmass
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not for nothing, but a few FACTS about the case in Maine. The child in question had been dressing as a girl since toddler days. 

And the parents had been on top of this issue, AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL OFFICIALS since the child walked in the door at age four. 

Information on this situation from FoxTV and the wingnut contingent has been horrifically wrong. 

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:10 | 4456769 Urban Redneck
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Facts without reason are manipulation.

What toddler picks out their own clothes?

Since this was a matter of community knowledge since child was four years, where was Child Protective Services all this time?

I don't even have access to US TV and yet can see the steaming mountain of BS from across the pond.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 23:42 | 4455821 booboo
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The PC movement is all about making it illegal to state the obvious.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 01:36 | 4456157 Tsukato
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What's obvious? Blacks are stupid and lazy? Hispanics are stupid and dirty? Jews are greedy? Yeah, those sentiments really help society. Really my friend, you should get out of your cave every once in a while. Will do you a world of good, I'm sure.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 03:44 | 4456387 IdeasRbulletproof
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So let me guess, you're not any of these races which in turn makes you far more superior right? Nor can any other race be stupid, lazy, dirty or greedy? Sounds like you entered your personal opinion into the conversation which doesn't seem to fit in your quest for self righteousness.
Now, I did see MSM criticizing a particular athlete for stating the "R" word which for the life of me I couldn't figure out what it was. As I read a lil further, i found it turn out to be "retard". Is it really PIC to say retard nowadays?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 04:16 | 4456429 dark pools of soros
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Why is asprin white??  You want it to work don't you??

 

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:47 | 4456585 negative rates
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Yea, I want it to work like altimers patient after his last concussion.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 09:31 | 4456812 booboo
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Tsukato, I will go out on a limb and state the obvious, you are a statist that makes a conscious decision each time you see an individual to judge them based soley on their sexual orientation, color of their skin, or ethnic makeup prior to determining if they have good character unless they are black and then you immediatly go limp and subservient hoping they don't beat your dumb ass.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:44 | 4457404 Tsukato
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You would be mistaken. I have not reason to fear apes. Why do whites fear blacks so much? Why do white girls wanna fuck these monkeys? Oh well. It's your funeral as a race.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 00:32 | 4455979 EverythingEviL
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Damn this article is great. I had this same exact discussion with someone the other day who was trying to tell me I had to be PC about these same issues. That I can't say they aren't acceptable to me. I don't care what people do in their personal lives but I'm so sick of this society trying to be in so in your face and trying to force you to proclaim that all the things they do are personally acceptable for you even in your own damn life. You can't even watch a tv show these days without a gay character and if you don't want to watch a show because of that YOU are the one that isn't normal. So disgusted with this crap. Anyways thanks for putting into words exactly how I feel.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 00:52 | 4456019 Shad_ow
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I agree. Thank you Tylers for this and thanks to all for the comments.  In times like this it is encouraging to read the thoughts of good people and confirm that we are not crazy for wanting to return to what is just and fair. We are not alone in recognizing the evil that seems to be taking over our government and scoiety.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:35 | 4456570 new game
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this is the sign that major change for the worst outcome is upon mankind. think ww2, only winner take all(or loses all)...

where is that quit place out of the cross fire? certainly not argentina or ukraine...usa could be the bullseye. this needs more research...

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:49 | 4456589 negative rates
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No the research is all done sweety, only the time and the consequences are left to pay.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:52 | 4456592 new game
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my research is ongoing...

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 07:57 | 4456602 unwashedmass
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Actually YOU are the one who is wrong. 

Is there something so terrible about having a little respect for the women in your life? Giving them some credit for intelligence beyond the capacity of an eggplant? 

Is there something so terrible about not assuming that every black person is going to knife you and rob you? 

That every single Arab is NOT a terrorist? 

That other people - - yes there are other people on this planet outside of white males -- might like the same considerations that you take as your god given rights? 

That gay people MIGHT just NOT want to live in a closet because their very presence offends YOU? 

You are the outlier dude, and the world is passing you by.......cause we're here, we're female, we're brown, we're queer, .....

and we are outnumber you..........and while we've been asking nicely for a hundred years for a little respect? Mamma is tired of waiting now. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:40 | 4457114 Sean7k
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I imagine it is more dynamic, a resistance to and fear of change, an over compensation for past actions. People are tired of waiting and that makes them easier to goad. If we fight amongst ourselves, we have no strengh for the more important battles ahead. 

We must find the tolerance to support each other, to extend a hand across the abyss. Mamma has a good raison 'd ete.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 23:39 | 4455810 ISEEIT
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'Political correctness' is a form of compulsory hate speech. It is hate of the truth.

It is a murderer. A liar from the beginning.

Yep, ISAID THAT.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 01:25 | 4456127 Tsukato
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Wow. I see a lot of hatred goin down here. PC is not all bad though. If we'd had it about 80 years ago, we'd have never had to suffer the holocaust. That may not mean a lot to many of you, but from where I stand PC is a pretty good thing.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 02:10 | 4456241 maskone909
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"We" didnt suffer. Unless you are a holocaust survivor well then thats different. Funny how the holocaust always get brought up. Act like its the only instance of genocide or atrocities

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 02:29 | 4456270 Tsukato
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Are you black? That shit suits blacks and slavery fine. Blacks never do much of anything anyway. If you were all still in Africa instead of being part of obamas free shit army, life could be much worse. However, Jews are a productive race. Our lives have meaning. So don't lecture me ape-man.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 02:37 | 4456279 maskone909
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What are you going to do? Take your frisby off your head and throw it at me? I doubt you are even really jewish. Prob made a dummy account for attention. Can you tell me what exactly jews produce ?
Edit
Forgot to mention how funny it is you advocate for PC and diss all other races . "Alot of hatred here"
Yeah good one frisby head

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 02:40 | 4456289 Tsukato
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I've been here for over 3 years dummy. What do Jews produce? Enlightenment to a dark world, my dark friend. By the way, my dark friend, what does the black race produce? Felons, illegitimate babies, Aids.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 02:44 | 4456299 maskone909
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How did German men pick up Jewish women in the 1940s? With a dustpan and brush

Oy vey!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:15 | 4456647 Ghostbusters
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Ttsuki isnt worth the time.  That is one sick joke though, especially in reference to the most politically correct myth of modern history(excusing 9!!).  It is ironic really. The PC correct ADL might have something else to say about it, although they appreciate your ignorance.  Wouldnt it be nice to see a debate over material evidence, witness testimony, and logical arguments for once rather than having to accept the sensationalized anti-truth spewed forth from hollywood, the media, and the other shills of western 'democracies' aka psychotic demagoguery shrouded in collectivism?  Before 'conspiracy theory' came historical revisionism while the conspirators write the dictionaries, textbooks, and the corresponding 'history' you  might want to get out of their PC modern paradigms, ideologies, and associated agendas that support the 'official' narrative.  Best, P. Venkman

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 02:53 | 4456308 akak
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There's also that poisoning-the-wells thing you got goin' on, too.

And roasting Christian babies.

That's got to count for something.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 06:36 | 4456512 Johnny Cocknballs
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Lighten up, _Francis_

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Wed, 02/19/2014 - 23:40 | 4455813 i_call_you_my_base
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This is trash.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 00:04 | 4455899 NoDebt
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I was going to down-vote you on general principle (weigh the merits of the argument, draw a reasoned conclusion).  Then I read the article again.  And a third time.

You're right.  This is garbage stitched together to draw a generalized conclusion.  Forget whether it's right or wrong, it's just all over the map.  Worthless as a point of discussion.  

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 00:17 | 4455933 Oldwood
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Are you looking for a specific conclusion? Political correctness is being used to silence us, for the advancement of utopian collectivist agendas. I only read it once.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 00:31 | 4455970 johnQpublic
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LGBT is 4.2 % of the population

and we have to bend over backwards in affirmation of the deviant lifestyle

dont care one iota if they are lgbt

its the lifestyle

read about some of the shit

watch clips of a gay pride parade(when can i have a white pride parade?)

even hit cl rants and raves ...just the bizarre sexually deviant requests are mind numbing

wtf is wrong with these people

i am increasingly convinced the racist, ant freedom of speech assholes in the mid 50's were RIGHT

when people just act like normal people i dont care if they are gay straight black blue green

i have gay friends and relatives

black friends and relatives

a hispanic wife

i am an anti-political-correctist-social darwinist

and if you cant or wont work towards your own advancement, you may as well die

same for the severly handicapped

resource misallocation to even feed them....same with liberals

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 00:58 | 4456048 BLOTTO
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I dont know about you - but i aint no dying fuckin ape.

.

No chimp after even a trillion years would evolve and come close to our levels - as stupid and brilliant we can be...

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 00:58 | 4456050 Buckaroo Banzai
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4.2% of the population?? Bullshit.

More likely closer to 0.42% of the population.

The fags want you to believe they are everywhere.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:06 | 4457221 johnQpublic
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cant anyone actually use google before the espouse what they 'believe or feel' to be true rather than find out what is true?

gays

lesbians

transgender/trans sexual

bisexual

4 or 5 groups in there and it actually totals 4.2%

but we have to behave like they are 50% of the population

drop the banzai from your hanle til you get right

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 01:13 | 4456093 MisterMousePotato
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About ten or 15 years ago, a big homosexual organization in San Francisco conducted an extensive survey on homosexuals', er, activities with each other. Which I read.

Not once since then have I even been able to allude to what they do. It is so weird, vile, sick, disgusting, foul, and, well, not even sexy, that I would be utterly mortified were I forced to stand in front of an audience and report on the practices of homosexuals.

One of the greatest lies told to people by the media has been that homosexuals are just like us, they just love people of the same sex (or is it 'gender'?).

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Were I to suggest to my wife, "Hey, honey, let's [any one of the fifty or hundred filthy and degrading things homosexuals do with and to each other and themselves] tonight," she would call the authorities and a divorce lawyer.

With good cause.

They're not like us. At all. Like the guy above says, read about it. It's not a secret. It just is portrayed differently in the media.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 01:42 | 4456177 BLOTTO
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'The publicity surrounding gay marriage doesn't reflect the reality. Gays don't want to marry. In Canada, gay marriage has been legal for more than a year yet only one in one thousand marriages are homosexual. Gays and lesbians make up about 40 out of 1000 population.

Many gays are "single minded sexual predators" fixated on youth and physical beauty alone. When it comes to the old or ugly, gays are "the real queer bashers." Disillusioned themselves, they are cynical about love.'

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http://henrymakow.com/201101.html

. How the Rockefellers Re-Engineered Women

http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 06:39 | 4456514 Johnny Cocknballs
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here's the thing, sparky - it's none of your fuckin' business what two consenting adults do to one another to get off.

None.

And it is certainly none of your governments.

Your facile equation of the 'dirty' and vile with homosexual sexuality would not withstand 20 minutes of surfing around eminently heterosexual German porn sites.

But you'd tell me if your wife was in a German sheisa film, wouldn't you, pal?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 10:22 | 4456990 BLOTTO
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None of my/our business - maybe thats true.

However, that doesnt dispute its still filthy, perverted and unnatural...

Fuck porn in general  -whether it be heterosexual or whatever - its still filth and just a waste of mindless time...think about it...its low level bottom feeding crap on the soul.

Your sitting at home jerking off to strangers fucking? Hows that going? Hows that for exceeding to a higher level. 

In its simplest form - 'SEX' is a prerequisite to creation, to creating life. That is its purpose (sex)...to create life.

Their is nothing natural or pure about a guy sticking his cock in another mans ass.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 11:12 | 4457262 johnQpublic
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cock in the ass is the very least of it

how about your arm past the elbow?

porn in general....yup, degrading and disgusting for the most part

i truly pitty high school age girls of this generation

i can only (try not to) imagine what their porn addled boyfriends are putting them thru

guy who shot the owner of "hustler" way back when was on the right track as it happens

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 01:36 | 4456156 Miffed Microbio...
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Try working in corporate America and being forced into Sensitivity Training! I failed the course refusing to cite a manager,who served a wine called " Ménage a Trois" during a private party with employees present, engaging in sexual harassment. Absolutely fucking unbelievable. I walked out and was written up. Now, if anyone accuses me of sexual harassment it could be grounds for dismissal.

Political correctness and Sensitivity training can't silence me but, dear God, it's daily war. A very thin guy at work was working out very hard and I made the comment. " dear lord, look at those guns!" I knew how hard he was working and it was just a compliment to acknowledge his results. Once again, back in the office. Now if he claims sexual harassment for my comment I am informed I will be counseled by HR. I know he won't but I am so sick of this ridiculous shit. It's as if we must go through our day keeping our head down, saying nothing provocative that may possible offend someone's uber sensitive psyche. It just increases the workplace stress unbelievably. If I ever meet the woman who started this movement I will personally rip out her ovaries and hang them from her ears.

Sorry for the rant. I'm just so damn tired of this!

Miffed;-)

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