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Ukraine Region Declares Independence Sending Dollar Bonds To Record Low; Russian Ruble Tumbles To 5 Year Low

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Update: the market has indeed noticed:


The events in the Ukraine continue to deteriorate. Moments ago Lawmakers in Ukraine’s Lviv region, declared independence after backers evicted appointed governor overnight. Lviv’s parliament formed executive committee with department heads in Governor Oleh Salo’s administration that will take over functions of regional government, Oksana Dmetryv, a spokeswoman for Speaker Petro Kolodiy, said today by phone from Lviv. Protesters also seized headquarters of security services in Lviv, a region of 2.5 million people bordering Poland. Elsewhere, there were reports of more military vehicles crossing through Kiev: if there are any more Molotov Cocktail video follow ups we will be sure to capture them.

Still, to expect president Yanukovich (or Putin) to just sit there and let the country be torn apart by secessionists is naive. As Reuters reportrs, Yanukovich accused pro-European opposition leaders on Wednesday of trying to seize power by force after at least 26 people died in the worst violence since the former Soviet republic gained independence. European Union leaders said they were urgently preparing targeted sanctions against those responsible for a crackdown on protesters who have been occupying central Kiev for almost three months since Yanukovich spurned a far-reaching trade deal with the EU and accepted a $15-billion Russian bailout.

Russian President Vladimir Putin's spokesman insisted the Kremlin was sticking to a policy of not intervening in Ukraine, although his point man has called for action to crush the protests. The Kremlin said Putin and Yanukovich spoke by telephone overnight, calling the events an attempted coup. Moscow announced the resumption of stalled aid to Kiev on Monday with a $2-million cash injection hours before the crackdown began.

So far, however, the implicit Russian backing of the Ukraine as is is not doing much as both the Ukraine Dollar short-bonds due June 2014 have fallen more than 2 points to a record low of 94.25 according to Tradeweb, while the Russian Ruble has just tumbled to its lowest levels against the dollar since 2009.

The market is finally starting to notice, and realize that nothing in the Ukraine is contained, and the consequences form a prolonged civil war would be dire for everyone involved. Which, as is the case in every proxy war, just happens to be everyone.


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Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:27 | 4451850 buzzsaw99
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backers evicted or bankers evicted? same thing?

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:30 | 4451855 GetZeeGold
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So are we supporting the communists or the bankers.....or both?


I'm thinking maybe we should just back the hell out of there.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:36 | 4451878 kliguy38
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"Back the hell out"......NO WAY...There's conflict to foment....and when there's conflict, there's MONEY.....and when there's money there's DEBT ...and DEBT is what the Bankers let's go HOT baby.....

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:47 | 4451902 negative rates
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I seem to have lost my timex, you haven't seen it over there have ya?

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:08 | 4451955 HyBrasilian
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Just tell me when the Rothschilds central bank goes up...

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:27 | 4452004 ThirdWorldDude
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This just in: Arseniy Petrovych Yatsenyuk (better known as Yats from Nuland's intercepted phone conversation)...

"...graduated from the university in 1996, and later attended the Chernivtsi Trade-Economics Institute of the "Kyiv National Trade-Economics Institute" in 2001.[6]

From December 1992 to September 1997 he was the president of "Yurek Ltd." law firm, based in Chernivtsi.[6] From January 1998 until September 2001, Yatsenyuk worked in the Aval bank, based in Kiev.[6]

It is reported that Yatsenyuk graduated from the Kiev school of Dianetics and joined the Scientology organization in 1998, while working as a consultant for the credit department of Aval Bank. In the same year he signed a contract with the so-called "Sea Organization," the elite structure of the "Church of Scientology." Yatsenyuk is presently a high-ranking member of the sect and has a "level of auditing" called OT-6. His sister, Alina Petrovna Steele (aka Alina Jones), a citizen of the United States, is also connected with the Church of Scientology. Steele is active at the branch of the church in the city of Santa Barbara (USA, California) and she is at a lower level, OT-4, out of a total of 8..."

What's more important, however:

"From November 2003 to February 2005, Yatsenyuk served as the first vice-president of the head of the National Bank of Ukraine under Serhiy Tyhypko.[5] After Tyhypko left the National Bank, Arseniy Yatsenyuk was put in charge of the National Bank.[5]

After Vasyl Tsushko was appointed as the new Governor of Odessa Oblast, Tsushko asked Yatsenyuk to serve as his vice-governor, which he served from March 9 to September 2005.[5][6] From September 27, 2005 to August 4, 2006, he served as the Minister of Economy of Ukraine in the Yekhanurov Government.[5][7] Arseniy Yatsenyuk then headed talks about Ukrainian membership in the World Trade Organization. Yatsenyuk also heads the Ukraine-European Union commission..."

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:44 | 4452063 Proofreder
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So, this guy is a Total Nut Job

and he is pulling the strings, pressing the levers ... ?

We are so FBB.

Worthy of a Science Fiction plot.

Oh, wait, never mind.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:47 | 4452328 BanksterSlayer
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Yup, "never waste a good crisis." I'm sure that Putin The Chessmaster knew exactly how things were going to roll in Ukraine, and he is patiently waiting for just the right moment to intervene.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:36 | 4451881 duo
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"In bourgeois terms, it was a war between the Allies and Germany. In Bolshevik terms, it was a war between the Allied and German upper classes - and which of them won was of total indifference. My task was to organize defeat, so as to hasten the onset of revolution."

- From "Dr. Zhivago"

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:36 | 4452026 Arius
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it is one of my favorites scenes ... when he continues smt happy man dont volunteer to go to war (dissatisfied man do); and that the soldiers did not trust their crooked leaders and the one they trusted were some idealists.


back to Goering good summary that regular folks do not want war ...


yeah well, it is all for their own good; if we dont keep them occupied they might come after us kind of thing :)

i dont think that is the best way to rule, but i guess it has worked so far, and the young have no balls to change the way things are, or change a proven formula; it will change only because it has too ... probably in the future by a Spartakus.

i know this message passes a few steps and it could be read by the selected few .... well, it is not for the new ZH audience as Chindit13 nicely put it.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:22 | 4452231 kralizec
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The best course of action is for both to stay out.  But I fear Putin will not be able to resist, and since he stated he is "sticking to their policy on non-intervention" he will therefor intervene and blame the West for the reason, just because their buffoonish actions make the accusation sound resonable.  Which will suck the West into it deeper and the people of Ukraine get to suffer more than they would have to if both sides just stayed the hell out.  The last line nails it - we all lose.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 11:29 | 4452536 lordylord
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Half the people in the Ukraine want to be ruled by the EU. The other half wants to be ruled by Russia. Fuck both sides. They should want to rule themselves.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 14:04 | 4453308 kralizec
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Indeed.  But the interventionists will win, and the people of Ukraine will lose.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:01 | 4452144 RaceToTheBottom
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When they said dollar bond drops, I thought they meant US dollar.....

Not just yet....

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:28 | 4451853 glaucon was right
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The sound of the gongs of war can be heard now everywhere.


Happy 2014 to everyone!

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:31 | 4451861 Proofreder
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More like the Fog of War ...

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:18 | 4452212 eclectic syncretist
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Remember, when you open the bottle a small amount of the alcohol must be removed in order to stuff the rag in properly.  While some people prefer to spill it out on the ground in a kind of sacrificial ritual, most prefer to just drink it.

Stay thirsty, my friends.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:34 | 4451870 Sudden Debt
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don't worry...

just buy Ukraine railroad bonds... can't lose.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:00 | 4451939 disabledvet
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well...they do move in two directions.
Is there a publicly traded company you had in mind?

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:10 | 4451957 Millivanilli
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We, comrades, have been duped. The war was always with EURASAI instead of EUQAEDA.   


Slaps forehead.   Would someone start taking out the bankster vermin...

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:18 | 4451970 new game
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ah yeaaaa, the causation!

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:21 | 4452218 The Final Straw
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6 down so far, I believe.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:29 | 4451856 Remnant_Army
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“You will hear about wars. You will also hear people talking about future wars. Don’t be alarmed. Those things must happen. But the end still isn’t here. Nation will fight against nation. Kingdom will fight against kingdom. People will go hungry. There will be earthquakes in many places. All these are the beginning of birth pains."

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:18 | 4451969 DeadFred
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Krugman is counting on those earthquakes for GDP growth.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:20 | 4451978 Time for Titus
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I am a "Bible is literal" kind of guy, and, Jack, you are completely misusing this verse. You embarrass those who responsibly use the bible.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:29 | 4452016 drdolittle
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Which Bible? The original texts in Greek? The King James favorable King James version? Or, my own fav, the new international version? Which one is literally the exact words of God, unbent by the hand of man?

Did dinosaurs ever exist? They're not in the bible. Or, were they just not called dinosaurs? Maybe they were the talking serpent in the garden. Radiocarbon dating is all crap? The earth is a few thousand years old, despite all the competing evidence to suggest otherwise.

To each his own with regards to religion. A literal interpretation of the bible though? Not possible for a thinking person.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:36 | 4452042 Free Wary
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maybe ask the author?

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:22 | 4452230 forwardho
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Can't top that Brother!

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 11:07 | 4452448 greatbeard
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> ask the author?

Sure, whom do you presume to be the author?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 02:38 | 4456284 Free Wary
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The one who talks to me with a still small voice

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:44 | 4452061 nonclaim
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"Radiocarbon dating is all crap?"

Not all but some, since the discovery that half-life isn't exactly linear.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:29 | 4452017 NoDebt
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I am not a bible-is-literal kind of guy but I still have to agree he did bang that one up pretty bad.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 13:06 | 4453007 Buckaroo Banzai
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You may want to click the link before you start questioning motives.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:29 | 4451857 hugovanderbubble
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Russia is next to suffer contagious effect, then Latvia, then Germany

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:41 | 4451893 negative rates
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How will things be on Gilligan's island? I've rented the 3 hour tour boat out again, but last time it got lost and we didn't make our destination, only went round in one big circle.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:11 | 4451961 Winston Churchill
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US Navy tours have trouble getting beyond the sandbar.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:30 | 4451859 marginnayan
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Futures down just 6+ whole food points. Cartel not feeling the heat yet huh!

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:52 | 4451911 Dr. Venkman
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Down 6 can be considered a rout these days.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:30 | 4451860 jovius
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Ukraine.  Not 'the Ukraine'.

We certainly are living in interesting times.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:32 | 4451866 hugovanderbubble
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Ukraine will be splitted into 2 countries. Period WEST AND EAST

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:39 | 4451885 smacker
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"splut into two countries", not "splitted"

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:50 | 4451907 gafgroocK
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Wow, many unemployed English Majors up early, I see ;->

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:58 | 4451932 satoshi411
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It's 6pm in Bangalore, and you can hire an english major for $1/day.

Anyone looking for a job?

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:26 | 4452003 cossack55
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I find English majors an incredible boor.  All "pips, polish and swagger sticks".  Still, for a buck a day I can use some yard work.  Do they ever take off their uniform?

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:24 | 4451991 DeadFred
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Why do NY City cabs have two sun visors if only the driver can sit in front?

-One is to display your cabbie license while the other is for your PhD in Comparative Literature

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:15 | 4452197 jovius
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Grammar.  It's the difference between knowing your shit, and knowing you're shit.

And more than just Americans now use the internet.  So no, it's not early here.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 13:17 | 4453065 CultiVader
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Nothing wrong with English Lit. Perhaps a stereotype of its uselessness pervades Zh. To each their own i suppose but not everyone can be a STEM major. Books and the black market? Now that's fucking cool.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:01 | 4451933 Tasty Sandwich
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It's funny because "splut" isn't a word either.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:38 | 4452301 gallistic
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You clearly didn't get it.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:59 | 4451936 greatbeard
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Wouldn't splat be more appropriate?



Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:41 | 4451890 BandGap
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I don't know what you base that on but I think you better look again. Ukraine is a big country (45 million people) and is strategic to Russia in a number of ways, most notably agriculture. This isn't as simple as that, and if it were, do you think Russia would like that message sent throughout the region.

I agree it would be the simplest with the least amount of bloodshed. Perhaps that's why there is little chance of this happening.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:29 | 4452013 yrbmegr
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I understand 2/3 of the population is Ukrainian and 1/3 Russian, with a Russian president who is trying to increase ties with Russia while the Ukrainian majority want closer ties with Western Europe.  Sounds pretty intractable.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:45 | 4452068 123dobryden
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on top you have presidents oligarchs and former presidents oligarchs.

you have productive assets, that 20 years ago was state assets, now in hands of these oligarchs. west /wests oligarchs and bankers not western citizens/ fights over these assets with russia /russia oligarchs a kgb apparatchics, not russian people/

both sides employ propaganda to paint the other side with evil colors

it seems so far tht the only people that are fighting both oligarchs are radicals, that oligarchs call facists, left radicals or hooligans, they didnt steal anything, they fighting robbers in the civil war.


this way or another, things are turning very very ugly for common folks as always

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:00 | 4452138 TheReplacement
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We just need to supply them with a rifle and pistol with ammo for each person.  Arm them all and let them sort it out.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:55 | 4452110 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Russia/Putin is definitely no saint, but how could people watch what happens to the economy and debt level of all these EU countries and want to get in on that? Parties who want out of the EU, who are generally made up of lower and middle class people are gaining strength everyday, and want less ties with EU after seeing how well this whole 'one Europe' thing is working out. How millions of people could want in on that with countless examples of why it will make things worse rather than better staring then in the face is tough to fathom.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:15 | 4452198 forwardho
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Re; How millions of people could want in on that with countless examples of why it will make things worse rather than better staring then in the face is tough to fathom.

If you were Ukrainian, You would remember to the core of your being, that the soviets Starved to death 7 million people. On purpose.

You ask how? How could they forget the intentional extermination of almost half their population at that time?



Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:56 | 4452383 Overfed
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The unelected assholes in Belgium are no better than Stalin. They just haven't had their moment yet.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 11:21 | 4452505 Greenskeeper_Carl
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That's pretty much what I mean. They are going to put their economy under the control of a bunch of unelected bankers in Brussels who will exercise a great deal of control over their country from day one. And as the EU continues to deteriorate its only going to get worse. They are signing up to be like Greece or Spain or Italy. And I agree they are no better than Stalin, just give them some time. Or wait until a country or two exits the euro zone.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 20:37 | 4455033 StychoKiller
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EU != Euro

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:52 | 4452099 123dobryden
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we both know what russians are cappable of when they grab hold of that agriculture, country wide famine, milions dead, canibalism...


so far Putin scored easy points, sheltering snowden, hugging gay athelet, spreading unconfortable truth through RussiaToday, now more and more mixed with propaganda of the highest degree when it comes to news from any state from russian sphere of influence


power breed parasites


Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:04 | 4452155 forwardho
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The death toll from the 1932-33 famine in Ukraine has been estimated between six million and seven million. According to a Soviet author, "Before they died, people often lost their senses and ceased to be human being.

Glad others remember world history. These people have no love for putin. At the time of the famine. The six million represented just under half the  population. People tend to remember those who, in the past have sought their extermination by intentionally starving half the country.

Their "leaders" have been bought by Moscow.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:24 | 4452238 ross81
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oh yeah, I forgot Putin's Russia was about to starve Ukraine. THAT'S why these street terrorists are shooting at their own countrymen!

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:34 | 4452278 forwardho
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Racial memory shapes people. No implication Putin would today starve The people of ukraine.

Ukrainian population;

1/3rd Russian

2/3rds Ukrainian.

Guess which group holds all the power of state.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 12:28 | 4452823 Volkodav
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Wrong....You forgot the poles and others in west who are not Ukrainian blood.

These are the troubles....Lviv and all the lands former poles.

Ukrainians families Kiev I know of are fine with Russia and welcome cooperation.

They know Russia is success while idiots in pole west ukraine enabled from west for takeover only damage real Ukrainians.

The Orange governent caused Ukraine set back at least 10 years.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 18:08 | 4454498 123dobryden
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we believe you our little russian friend, i forgot your coutry is so so great that the only thing you are able to export is raw materials and mafia...

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:59 | 4452395 Urban Redneck
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And Stalin wasn't backed by Bolshevik Zionist Bankers in NY?

And it wasn't like Herbert Hoover wasn't available after March of '33 to again save millions of lives.

Moral and Propaganda are critical to execution of war and statecraft. Unfortunately, like money- truth or insight, rarely trickles down to the sheeple.

So today the propaganda being presented as choice to Ukrainians really amounts to "Do you want to Suck Stalin's suck, or do you want suck the cock of the bankster who was just fucking Stalin up the ass?"

Someone needs to find a better way. And the real parties driving the conflict need to be made to sit down and negotiate face to face, or be publicly exposed as warmongering criminals facilitating crimes against humanity.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 12:18 | 4452740 Volkodav
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Ignorant post.

From 1917 thru Stalin was never Russians in control.

Stalin was not a Russian.

Russians suffered more than any.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 12:16 | 4452715 Volkodav
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Ignorant post

Soviet from 1917 thru Stalin was never Russians in control.

Russians suffered more than any.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:52 | 4451913 nonclaim
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WEST AND EAST and this time both sides will be Comunist.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:57 | 4452125 123dobryden
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100 years of ukrainian history confirm this, very very sad for the nation, as it often became the battleground between eastern fuckers and western fuckers


Machno and Bandera, they both fight every invader and occupant, both ended with making alliances with one side, both ended defeated with milions dead

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:07 | 4451949 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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And Kiev will become next Jerusalem, where two sides will fight for control.
In other news, UAH is sliding slowly against USD|EUR|RUB, loosing several kopeecks every day.
Interbank fx rates

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:59 | 4452136 Chuck Knoblauch
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Kiev will not become a platform to launch cruise missiles against Russia. If the bankers in the city of london keep pushing, expect some personal blowback.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:01 | 4452146 Chuck Knoblauch
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Not going to happen.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:31 | 4451862 hugovanderbubble
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Emerging markets ready to blow up



South Korea

















Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:33 | 4451869 GetZeeGold
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So basically it.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:36 | 4451880 Sudden Debt
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conclusion: America will be fine...

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:40 | 4451888 Rubicon
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Poland's missing

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:42 | 4451896 pan
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My Polish girlfriend was so sweet I married her.  Now she's total ball buster!

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:47 | 4451903 Rubicon
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Thx for the heads up...

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:53 | 4451917 gafgroocK
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"My Polish girlfriend was so sweet I married her.  Now she's total ball buster!"


Welcome to the Club, bubba. Despite the fact there is no 'free lunch' on this one, at least you got a girl with Blond hair.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:14 | 4452191 shovelhead
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And you don't find the moustache and beard offputting.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:08 | 4451954 Sudden Debt
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totally normal. That's why man invented hobbies like "building something in the basement", fishing, drinking, soccer...

whatever woman don't like to do is a perfect hobby because they hate and won't join your hobby.


My friends are all handpicked. My wife just hates them. And that's a good thing! Because I visit my friends about 2 times a week and all I have to say is: "I'll be late".

She never asks: can I come to

Nop. And when she complains I just say: "Baby, why don't you visit some of your friends?"

That's always a converstation stopper because woman can't be friends :) That only happens on TV.

And out of frustration they clean the house that I just dirtied before I left and if I'm lucky I get a silence treathment for 2 days. If I'm not so lucky it's mostly only 1 day...

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:42 | 4451894 BandGap
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Don't see Norway on the list.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:53 | 4451918 blabam
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If we're talking womenz he also forgot Thailand.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:53 | 4451919 thestarl
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Trouble is SD when you bring them to the west they're high maintenance

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:53 | 4451920 EuropeanBankster
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Sweden? Are you serious?

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:02 | 4451943 RSloane
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Yes, he said Sweden is an emerging market that's going to blow up. LMAO!!

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:26 | 4451997 hugovanderbubble
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Yes, Sweden.


Swedish banks have the biggest exposure to Latvian Real Estate Loans. Any Latvian Default will crash swedish financial system.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 11:48 | 4452576 layman_please
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latvia is small. sweds have a problem at home.

Swedish Residential Real Estate Overvalued 25%, S&P Says

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:59 | 4451926 Chuck Knoblauch
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Who's watching the den while the foxes are destabilizing the chicken coop?


You like making lists? There may be a future in government for you.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:33 | 4451867 hugovanderbubble
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Bankruns across Kiev

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:55 | 4452380 Mine Is Bigger
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Many Ukrainian people do not have bank accounts.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:35 | 4451876 Johnny Cocknballs
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So it begins.


p.s.  anyone with time and inclination care to liken the forces arrayed in this clip from Two Towers to the forces arrayed in Ukraine? Try to guess who you think I'd pick for Aragorn.  I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.  LOL!

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:24 | 4451990 buzzsaw99
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ukraine is weak, a road apple...

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:36 | 4451879 mayhem_korner
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Yes, but what is Ukraine's medal count in the Sochi Riviera?  Let's stay on top of what's important, please.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:10 | 4451956 disabledvet
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So far the count seems to be about 12 and 12.

Don't forget...Derek Jeter's last season with the Yankees too.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:42 | 4451895 VonSalza
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Long live the freestate Lemberg

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:45 | 4451898 Sashko89
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What did I say, when Westerner's think of Ukraine's opinion about Russia it only  comes from LVIV... like i said before this one Western City does not represent all of Ukraine... fuck bandera

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:08 | 4451953 nonclaim
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Is your opinion that they (lviv) are entitled to express their views or that dissent should be crushed?

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:15 | 4451965 disabledvet
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it is my view that dissent has every right to be crushed...and then still be dissent anyways.

Russia went into Georgia and they didn't get too far.
They got their man out of office...but this isn't a tiny Republic.
The rumors that Europeans are flooding into Syria are far from that as well.

"and as the planes flew high into the night...

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:32 | 4452028 forwardho
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" I saw Satan laughing with delight"

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:59 | 4452393 Sashko89
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Well if by expressing their dissent you think they should be causing the Chaos that's going on right now... then they should be crushed. If they were doing it peacefully then sure let them, but they went past the line of no return. The said part is, its Ukrainians on both sides, ones know their history and ones that have been manipulated and forgot their history. 

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 12:06 | 4452670 Volkodav
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Sashko89   Exactly..

Too many on the wrong side are not even Ukrainian blood, others forget or never cared...In West, most are total ignorant and will remain..

"Ukraine A History"  Orest Subtelny  

Widely considered to be best book on history of Ukraine.   Well written and readable from the first. Second edition 1994 pst end USSR can be found hardback for less than 10 bucks. Latest fourth edition will set one back many times that.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:48 | 4451904 Proofreder
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Awesome -

4 - panel live feed from Ukraine - what a marvelous world we live in !

Twitter is developing into what CNN tried to be - Instant Access to the World, in person and up close.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:54 | 4451925 stant
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not a good time for rocky or bullwinkle to vacation in eastern europe

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:58 | 4451927 Mine Is Bigger
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It is really interesting that Western news media are not reporting what is happening in the Russian-speaking region of Ukraine.  A friend in Odessa says most people there are not supporting the protests in Kiev and the Western region.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:05 | 4451946 Volaille de Bresse
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Of course the story (that's already being written) is the ENTIRE Ukrainian nation is rebelling against Putin. 


Facts : only a bunch of young bobos and right-wing old winos are occupying the Kiev Maidan square which is what... 800 square meters large? 

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 11:44 | 4452598 Volkodav
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Size does not knows there are hundreds thousands and millions peaceful protesting there and all pure Ukrainians all who despise Russia....That is all you need to know...

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:06 | 4451948 disabledvet
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Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:26 | 4451999 forwardho
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Interesting also that not one Ukrainion from protest has been interveiwed.


We are being fed pap.


Wed, 02/19/2014 - 11:39 | 4452577 Volkodav
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Most people in Kiev do not support this either...

The "opposition" wants overcome by force because they cannot prevail in upcoming election....

especially now that they show ugly face of violence.

Now exposed and must push force overthrow.


Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:59 | 4451928 agent default
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It's on.  Barbarossa II bitchez.   

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 08:59 | 4451934 skwid vacuous
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Anyone have a good recipe for Chicken Kiev to send to John Kohn and Nuland?

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:23 | 4451987 forwardho
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Thanks for link. Last night the links were being stepped on as fast as they could change freq's

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:17 | 4451966 Seize Mars
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I'm not a believer that this was somehow caused by the US. However I can tell you that if past is prologue, the Empire is all over this shit on the ground right now, and whoever wins will be forced (at gunpoint) to emerge with a Rothschild bank.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:42 | 4452035 Chuck Knoblauch
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NATO cruise missiles in Kiev is a Zionist fantasy. Only 470 miles separate Kiev and Moscow. Long-range subsonic cruise missile has a distance of 620 miles to target. This is a more dangerous situation than Syria ever was.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:19 | 4451975 Rising Sun
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Russia - they make good vodka.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:22 | 4451985 muleskinner
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Wrecking your country and bringing it to ruins are probably not good signs.

Evidence of past the protest and riot stage.

Can't they all just get along?





Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:28 | 4452007 hugovanderbubble
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Russian Ruble collapsing

Just look all the EURCHF ...below 1.2150 big covenant triggers coming

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:28 | 4452011 johny2
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On one side, Bankers, NATO, CIA and all type of ukrainian people who want to change things for better.

On other side, Bankers, governement and all type of ukrainian people who want things to stay similar or same.

Each way the bankers will win. It worked in 18th century and it is still working in 21st.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:31 | 4452022 observer007
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Latest on Ukraine

Ukrainian protesters hurled petrol bombs, fireworks and stones at riot police on Tuesday, and at least nine people died!q=ukraine&t=text

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:35 | 4452023 news printer
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Because Ukraine possesses 30% of the world's richest black soil, its agricultural industry has a huge potential. However, farmland remains the only major asset in Ukraine that is not privatized. The agricultural industry in Ukraine is already highly profitable, with 40-60% profits, but according to analysts its outputs could still rise up to fourfold.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:46 | 4452078 d edwards
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A rather messy state of affairs with the Olympics going on.


Got to love the peoples' determination.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:46 | 4452076 pan
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So can we expect issues with natural gas being devilered west?


Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:55 | 4452112 news printer
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Yes, we can.

I'm sure natural gas will be delivered up to the western border of Eastern Ukraine ;)

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 09:56 | 4452118 Teknopagan
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Brest-Litovsk two seems to have problems

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:01 | 4452147 Fix It Again Timmy
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Rationality on ALL fronts has left the building without leaving a forwarding address...

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:22 | 4452180 alus
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The only positive thing if the "newly independent region" is pacified by Berkut forces - all leaders of ex-Bandera organization (successors of murderers from UON-UPA) will go to jail.
This situation is quite hard for UE - their leaders are waiting for the orders from Germany/USA/Israel what to do next.

Ukraine will split in next several years on 2-3 different countries. There will be probably "friendly protection" from Putin's side (like in Poland - 17 sep 1939... where the "newly independent" territory was seized by russian army, while polish forces were fighting with german one). Next some years - a poll to local Ukrainians from the east if "they would like to join to Russia". And we will have 2 small countries - one Galitzia (Lvov and Rovne region), middle Ukraine (Kiev and territories to Dniepr) and of course - Russia with bigger territory (taking also Crymea)....

For normal, hard-working Ukrainians - that would like to live normally all of this situation is tragedy. They will be the only loosers. Ther Rich will stay rich. They will stay poor as before...


Wed, 02/19/2014 - 12:06 | 4452672 supermaxedout
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Thats the way it is.

By the way after WWI in 1919 Poland attacked agressively Sovjet Russia to grab a huge chunk of the Ukrainian/Russian  territory.    A formal peace treaty, the Peace of Riga, was signed on 18 March 1921, dividing the disputed territories between Poland and Soviet Russia. The war largely determined the Soviet–Polish border for the period between the World Wars. Much of the territory ceded to Poland in the Treaty of Riga became part of the Soviet Union after World War II, when Poland's eastern borders were redefined by the Allies in close accordance with the British-drawn Curzon Line of 1920.

Could be the same Polish Nationalistic powers are at work again with logistical help from the agressive USSA..


Wed, 02/19/2014 - 12:46 | 4452935 Volkodav
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Agree  exactly why media forget to mention that present Ukraine western regions are not Ukrainian blood, but poles.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 13:22 | 4453093 novictim
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Yanukovych is not ethnically Ukrainian, but rather of RussianPolish, and Belarusian descent. -Wiki

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:24 | 4452241 kellycriterion
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The development of the nation state model was hardly pure at the beginning. The advantages of pooling resources to deal with the scarcities of the past are mostly obsolete. The devolution to the Crime Syndicate Model and imperialism 2.0 is so expensive it's leading back to reliance on more force to maintain control. In general dividing into smaller governing units is positive but in the case of the Ukraine the geopolitics are daunting.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:25 | 4452244 Darth Stacker
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This isn't an east vs. west fight according to my friends over there. The people there are tired of the corrupt government. Believe it or not our politicians are Pikers compared to the Ukraine thieves that run the show over there. They are tired of having a college education and not being able to find a job that even pays $200 per month. I think having the politicians sell out to there Russian masters was just throwing gasoline on the fire.

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 10:30 | 4452263 shovelhead
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This may be a precursor to a full on civil war.

Which could also be a precursor to a World War. Full employment again with a BOOMING economy.

Well played.


Wed, 02/19/2014 - 13:19 | 4453074 novictim
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Wiki: Yanukovych is not ethnically Ukrainian, but rather of Russian,Polish, and Belarusian descent. -Wiki


Would the real Ukranians please stand up?  Oh, they are in Maidan Square!

Wed, 02/19/2014 - 13:31 | 4453134 novictim
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Dear Puti-pute,

You are a European.  Slavs are Europeans.  Deal with it and stop the Slav Nationalist BS.

History is NOT on the side of a nationalistic Russian tin-pot dictator.

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