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Dozens Killed In Ukraine's (Not Quite) Civil War, White House Outraged Again

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The Ukrainian health minister just state that at least 64 have died since February 18th; protesters claim the number is over 100 - either way, this is horrific (and we suspect, once the Olympics is over, will get worse). As Martin Armstrong outlines below, Ukraine is the pawn on the chessboard. The propaganda war is East v West.

  • WHITE HOUSE URGES UKRAINE PRESIDENT TO IMMEDIATELY WITHDRAW SECURITY FORCES FROM DOWNTOWN KIEV, RESOLVE CRISIS BY POLITICAL MEANS
  • WHITE HOUSE SAYS OUTRAGED BY IMAGES OF UKRAINIAN SECURITY FORCES "FIRING AUTOMATIC WEAPONS ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE" (more YouTube justifications)

And Russia proclaims US/EU calls for sanctions as "Blackmail"

Via NY Times,

 

Russia on Thursday denounced moves by the United States and Europe to impose sanctions on Ukrainian officials following the eruption of violence in the capital, Kiev, and other cities, saying they amounted to blackmail against the government of President Viktor F. Yanukovych.

 

Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, also criticized a visit by the foreign ministers of France, Germany and Poland, saying the European Union had dispatched its “latest uninvited mission” to Ukraine’s capital, Kiev, to impose a solution by forcing Mr. Yanukovych to compromise.

 

“How can you expect that your services will be in demand when the parallel threat of sanctions makes everything very similar to blackmail?” Mr. Lavrov said in remarks during a visit to Iraq, according to Interfax.

However, those power plays are masking the core issue that began with the Orange Revolution – corruption. Armstrong warns that "Yanukovych is a dictator who will never leave office. It is simple as that. There will be no real elections again in Ukraine." This is starting to spiral down into a confrontation that the entire world cannot ignore.

 

h/t @VICEUK

 

 

 

The Funding Begins

Via Martin Armstrong,

For months before the proposed alignment with the EU, there were signs all over Ukraine pro and con about joining Europe that was a campaign in part funded by the EU to sell the idea to Ukraine. This funding has been CONFUSED with the funding for the “rebels” to engage in revolution that Putin calls a coup. There is HUGE difference from the funding Germany and the EU was providing to sell Ukraine on the idea of joining the Europe compared to funding a revolution as the Saudis are doing in Syria.

But overlooked, was the resentment with corruption. After all, Ukraine’s 2004 Orange Revolution that toppled the government without a shot fired. That too was over corruption. For you see, the Orange Revolution swept then-prime minister Yanukovych out in 2004 and that brought Tymoshenko to power. It is widely viewed that Yanukovych stole his current position of power and his decision not to sign the deal  with the EU centers on the EU’s demands that he release from jail former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, his political opponent who he had imprisoned. So you are starting to get a sense of the depth to this corruption.

The changes that followed the Orange Revolution simply weren’t deep enough and Yanukovych has always been more pro-Russian. To the Western Ukrainians, this is a chance to get on a different trajectory and they did not expect this would turn violent since there was no such resistance during the Orange Revolution. On this score, they are wrong.

This resentment toward corruption has been rising sharply once again. Make no mistake about it, at the core is ALWAYS economics. Ukraine is desperately in need of a cash injection because the government is so corrupt. Yanukovych, who has been in power since 2010, and he said that Ukraine could not afford to sign the EU deal. The question was really who was putting more money is his pocket.

Germany is now starting the funding or the “rebels” as is the USA. Russia is funding the mercenaries and gave Ukraine $2 billion with demands to crush the rebels. Russia is portraying this as a coup funded by the USA. Ironically, funding is now starting. Nobody funded the “rebels” initially for had they done so,they would have been armed. The Orange Revolution was bloodless and they expected the same result so they did not seek funding for that purpose.

Of course, there was funding for “promotion” selling the EU deal to the people coming from Germany and the EU. But this was more directed into a marketing campaign that filled the cities with signs and posters. That was NOT funding that was going in with the expectation of civil war. There is a GREAT difference. Nonetheless, the violent attacks by Yanukovych’s mercenaries is now showing the West they need to fund the rebels.

The constitutional reforms that are demanded by the protesters demonstrates that this is at its core about corruption and not about joining the EU or Russia as the media is playing up. Nor are the reforms just about money. This is all about political power. This is about Yanukovych who has effectively established a de facto dictatorship. The opposition have called for the ouster of Yanukovych and the ordering of new elections for he stole the elections and imprisoned the former President who ousted him. The general view is that control of the government is a dictatorship for far too much power rests with Yanukovych and not enough with parliament. There are no checks and balances. This is the corruption that lies at the core demand – something that Yanukovych will sooner murder the entire West before ever letting go of any power. This is the core issue and why thousands of protesters have staked their lives on their desire for political change. This is NOT about joining the EU v Russia. They want HONEST government.

The very next day when protester approached his mansion, he enacted a law that it was illegal for more than 5 cars to travel together. He had his mercenaries not “killing” people but imprisoning them as hostages and others were being left in the forest stripped of all identification to die. One girl who was just helping the protesters as a nurse was seen at the train station taken by Yanukovych’s goons, and left in the forest at night to die.

BOTH the USA and EU will now fund the rebels as Russia will fund Yanukovych. At the political level, Ukraine is the pawn on the chessboard. The propaganda war is East v West. However, those power plays are masking the core issue that began with the Orange Revolution – corruption. Yanukovych is a dictator who will NEVER leave office. It is simple as that. There will be no REAL elections again in Ukraine. This is starting to spiral down into a confrontation that the entire world cannot ignore.

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So does sniper-fire at your own civilian population cross Obama's red line?

 

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Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:24 | 4457570 Occident Mortal
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Keep redrawing those 'red lines' buddy. Nobody is listening any more.

 

The weight of US diplomatic pressure vanished with Syria.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:31 | 4457603 LawsofPhysics
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"The weight of US diplomatic pressure vanished with Syria."-  Perhaps, but only if you ignore history and believe that CIA operatives had nothing to do with this...

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:34 | 4457622 Rakshas
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US Diplomacy as evidenced by  the new diplomatic core  

"........ the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event  - like a new Pearl Harbour...." 

 

That diplomacy??

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:36 | 4457645 fonestar
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None of America's god damned business what happens in Ukraine.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:41 | 4457656 Cult_of_Reason
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VIP and private jet terminals are very active at Borispol (Kiev Airport).

Are the rats leaving the ship?

Ominous resignation letter from Yanoukovich?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:44 | 4457689 johnQpublic
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Obama is a dictator who will never leave office

 

 

 

there , fixed it for ya

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:46 | 4457700 Cult_of_Reason
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Last night someone fled to Vienna on a private Gulfstream jet, got rejected and fled back to Kiev.
https://twitter.com/mintparanoiac/status/436249168445968384/photo/1

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:57 | 4457762 TerminalDebt
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The UN needs to issue a stong statement of condemnation, with the threat of more condemnation if they are not taken seriously.

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:00 | 4457785 Cult_of_Reason
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Just freeze their bank accounts.

Ukrainian (and Russian) corrupt government officials keep 80-90% of their funds in the US and EU banks.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:17 | 4457896 The Juggernaut
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I'm wondering who will fund the USA rebels when a revolution come's to their shores.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:44 | 4457986 Cult_of_Reason
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Yellen will print the funds.

US MSM will invite Russian masters of propaganda from RIA Novosti to help them labeling American people who want freedom as "Nazis, terrorists, and oil/gas money greedy CIA aparatchicks."

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:46 | 4458527 Volkodav
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proof?

or useless talkings?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 20:38 | 4459998 A Nanny Moose
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Time to put them on double secret probation.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:50 | 4458559 Volkodav
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Fled back to Kiev?

Please notify when you have serious post.

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 17:41 | 4459334 El Tuco
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Hey Judas you back.

Did you collect your silver from Yanukovych for the day....

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:45 | 4457693 onewayticket2
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if you like your Red Line, you can keep it.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:27 | 4457961 superflex
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Hussein can solve this be airlifting a few pallets of Barrycaids and a couple of NPS goons to the square.

That will fix 'em.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:38 | 4458028 max2205
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wait till the weather warms up

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:42 | 4458048 666
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Will Obummer call for the shooting to stop when the rioting over a corrupt USSA gubmint is in Washington? Will he be appalled like he is over the Ukraine? Or is he just another lying, two-faced POS president of the USSA.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:15 | 4458269 superflex
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He was strangely silent when the Capitol and Park Service Police shot and killed a woman driving erratically in DC.

Wanna bet they also had automatic weapons.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:59 | 4457778 BandGap
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Yes, I believe it's a direct flight to Frostbite Falls, Minnesota.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:47 | 4458089 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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Increased activity at Zhuliany (IEV) airport, too. Private jets taking off frequently.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:42 | 4458498 Volkodav
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More likely the real rats in and out and drop off weaponry..

btw..Kiev is home of main concentrate of the vermin thru Ukr history

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:59 | 4457766 WillyGroper
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@fonestar    BTC down 18%

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:08 | 4457840 El Tuco
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It's always no ones business until it bites you in the ass.

Maybe it's just me but no matter where or what the fight, when people stand against evil I got to stand with them. It's in my nature.

If they ever came for you in the middle of the night fonestar...I bet you'll wish it was everyones business.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:11 | 4457858 Cdad
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The relevant photo from all of this, to make the point about the people in the middle of this [for the purpose of separating out the two State actors] is the image of Ukrainian senior citizens in the brick brigade...

There are two very distinct stories going on here. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:43 | 4458062 LMAOLORI
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fonestar you finally said something worthy of up voting you for!

 

Russia Blames Ukraine Bloodshed on ‘Western Countries That Interfered’

(and I agree)

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:37 | 4457649 TheTmfreak
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My only possible response to the White House is "If there were 'protestors' or 'Tea Partiers' (if you want to call them that) fire bombing (and possibly shooting) in DC, would you do whats going on now, or significantly more?"

We ALL know the answer to how that would go down.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:45 | 4457698 johnQpublic
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Boston

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:59 | 4457782 Winston Churchill
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The Bonus Army.
McAuthur's true colors.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:37 | 4458469 Volkodav
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dup...agree...but Churchhill was worst and a full war criminal

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:42 | 4458051 rwe2late
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"And the fact is, not a single one of the Western governments now denouncing Ukraine for its repression would have tolerated a similar situation. Try to imagine thousands of Tea Partiers, say, having declared that the elected government of Barack Obama was too corrupt and illegitimate to stand, setting up an armed camp in the middle of Washington, occupying the Treasury Building and Justice Department for months on end, while meeting with Chinese and Russian leaders, who then begin demanding a ‘transitional government’ be installed in the White House. What would be the government’s reaction? There is no doubt that it would make even Yanukovych’s brutal assault this week look like a Sunday School picnic."
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/20/masking-tragedy-in-ukraine/

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:47 | 4458083 LMAOLORI
Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:34 | 4457626 Caviar Emptor
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We are upgrading the rhetoric : I urge you, in the strongest terms, to perform a hermaphroditic act!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:37 | 4457650 fx
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This article is crap. Those fascist paramilitary "rebels" had weapons right from the start. Now they have lots more. And it is them who broke the truce as they rejected the results of the de-escalation talks between the Yanukovich, klitschko and Jatzeniuk. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:19 | 4457908 rwe2late
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Agreed

"Democracy" is not the core issue for the US/EU. And certainly not "corruption" either.

Martin is a neo-CON shill

 Yanukvych was fairly elected (unlike certain EU leaders) and has limited powers (more so than in the US) .

(Martin claims Yanukvych is a "dictator") [If Yannukvch is a "dictator", then other leaders in the US and EU, as well as their allies, must also be deemed so. Perhaps dealing with political freedoms in one's own country should be the first priority.]

The core issue is US/NATO/IMF expansion and intrusion. (Martin claims the core issue is "corruption") [There has been much discussion at ZH about corruption. Suffice it to say that the corruption of the US and EU, and their allies in India, Iraq, Afghanistan, Mexico, etc. is hardly less so. And arguably, the wealthy US/EU does the most corrupting of others.]

For many reasons, the US/EU should keep out. (Martin claims the world "cannot ignore" it, presumably to justify his statement that the US/EU will "support" the "rebels". Hypocritical humanitarian intervention indeed.)

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:23 | 4457936 ebworthen
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I think you should make your coin black.

I still do not understand the desire to join the Brussels Bandits.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:36 | 4458464 TheReplacement
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Yep, those are some highly lethal pellet guns... idiot.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:39 | 4457655 Occident Mortal
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I lean towards the idea that the CIA are triggering this, but the diplomatic power that the White House used to wield across the globe has completely vanished.

If George W, came out spitting demands into a microphone the entire planet stopped to listen. And didn’t exhale until they were sure he was threatening somebody else.

 

Not any more. Obama makes similar threats and the fighting doesn’t even stop for 6 hours. Nobody is listening, it’s a paper tiger.

 

 

The really scary aspect of this is the notion that Germany is getting involved in a conflict.

 

Seems the Germans are reaching the point where they can’t hide their goals any more.

 

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:44 | 4457686 LawsofPhysics
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Please the diplomatic power of (pick your favorite douchebag "leader") is vanishing.  This is what happens when people take the fucking power back around THE WORLD.

Just trying to be optimist.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:01 | 4457795 BandGap
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LoP - it will take some time for me to see you as optimistic. I will, however, support your effort.

There is good and evil in the world. Choose a side.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:08 | 4457842 LawsofPhysics
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Being optimistic does not mean believing in unicorns shitting skittles or "mark to fantasy" accounting etc.

Life is hard, always will be, doesn't mean you can't choose the right etc.

I have simply always been a "teach a man to fish" kind of person.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:09 | 4457847 laomei
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Look, Germany..er the EU, simply needs some living space to the east

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:16 | 4457879 V in PA
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I am by no means a G.W fan, but you've made a good point. Obama is quite possibly the weakest leader ever elected (not once, but twice America) to such a high office. The President has always been a puppet of the TPTB, but this one doesn't even hide it.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:23 | 4457933 Chuck Knoblauch
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Bush had the headwinds of 911 at his back. Gave Bush credability, until he flushed it away by not holding Saudi Arabia responsible for 911. Obozo has no 911 event to push the neoconservative agenda down the road.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 08:39 | 4461324 Johnny Cocknballs
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no evidence linking Saudi intelligence to that FF.

Plenty linking Israel though.

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:34 | 4458443 Volkodav
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It is not the Germans anymore than 1917 was Russians.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 08:42 | 4461327 Johnny Cocknballs
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think of State/CIA as accelerant and spark.  Legit gripes form the fuel.  I think Armstrong is right about legit gripes that frankly lots of people might have.  The violence and hooligan stuff though...  smells like a. provocs.  But may not be.  Or may be a mix.  Tough to just say it sitting in NYC or Sydney.

 

rough analogy, but may resonate with some.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:42 | 4458053 Carpenter1
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Last few days we've seen articles supporting western banking interests, like this one. Tyler, couple of guys in black coats in your house helping you decide what to submit?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:31 | 4457613 Soul Glow
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Alex Jones says this is a Western led coup.  What's everyone else think?

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 08:37 | 4461320 Johnny Cocknballs
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oh, he's a super sayan, alright.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:34 | 4457634 CourageousDogSn...
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I think Alex Jones is an opportunist. He should stick to selling water filters.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:43 | 4457682 Jason T
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I've come to just trust Armstrong as he has an 8000 year marco perspective of the nature of the universe and man to give him the right to make observations of such events.  

Jones.. bigger audience but not as enlightened.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:46 | 4457699 DonFromWyoming
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In this case, AJ is right.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:25 | 4457951 Chuck Knoblauch
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Who is Alex Jones?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:31 | 4457980 ebworthen
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I think the Central Bank/Bankster parasite class have destabilized the social contract and real people are furious.

They are turning to the old meme of politics and protest thinking it will restore the social contract.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:40 | 4457659 Greenskeeper_Carl
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That's the problem with drawing lines, making threats, and then not doing shit afterwards. Do that once and people start to doubt you. But, we should not be drawing any red lines or making any threats. All we should say is we condemn this violence and call on both sides to stop the fighting, etc. beyond that, it is none of our business, not our responsibility. We should not be sending money, aid, etc to either side of a countries internal political conflicts. I seem to remember a founding father mentioning some thing about 'entangling alliances'

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:58 | 4457773 El Tuco
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@Occident Mortal

 

You're mistaken. The US could shut them down in a heart beat. Yanukovych and his Mafia have diversified and keep most of tehir personal wealth all over Europe. They know the day is coming when they may have to run. Look at his Prime minister who left, he is now living in Austria.

All the US has to do is twist a few wrists in European banking circles and freeze or seize this mafia's assets and the game is over.

This ain't no Syria.....So this red line can be real if the US wants it to be and it's the only reason these cunts haven't murdered everyone yet.

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:20 | 4457915 Pressfiretostart
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EL TUCo##

 

You are aware, aren't you, that this is ZH and nobody believes your cr@p?

 

Go shill somewhere else.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:30 | 4457976 El Tuco
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I've been here for over 2 years and you have been here 15 weeks...who is the shill.......

 

and what crap are you talking about the truth? I think I hear Vlad calling your name ass licker....

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 15:32 | 4458772 Pressfiretostart
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AIPAC cocksucker.

 

We see your type from a mile away.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 17:48 | 4459365 El Tuco
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AIPAC cocksucker

 

I don't want to hear what your mother does every night (cocksucker). But I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree you cum guzzler....

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:24 | 4457571 camaro68ss
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time to draw another line, make it twice as big and bright, should work this time...

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:35 | 4457637 t0mmyBerg
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Thats hilarious thanks, I needed a smile this morning.  I suspect there were a lot of guffaws in foreign capitals when Dear Leader had the balls to issue another line crossing statement "..there will be consequences if..."   Bwah ha ha ha.  Tears running down their cheeks as they contemplate the consequences which will be truly horrific - more Obama speechiness.  He will talk hem to death.  For the love of Christ, is there anything worse than listening to Obama?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:05 | 4457821 BandGap
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Is there anything worse than listening to Obama?

Painful Rectal Itch comes to mind. But that's about it.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:19 | 4457906 smlbizman
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yea, but at least it feels good while u r scratching.....ofuckface never feels good

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:25 | 4457578 Rakshas
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If he was a real leader he'd take the other lemmings (congress et al) to the top of the cliff and go for a walk 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:26 | 4457580 Spastica Rex
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They should use drones to fire on their own people, not automatic weapons. Guns are so uncivilized.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:42 | 4457635 Dr. Engali
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The MIC hasn't supplied any drones yet. That will come later..... for a small fee, and compounding daily interest of course.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:51 | 4457726 Spastica Rex
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I was thinking about this just yesterday:

What if all, or a significant portion, of the existing military hardware that enables the U.S. to police the world needed to be replaced? Would there be potential profit in that? Clearly the U.S. as a nation state doesn't have any real money, but are there other potential world policemen who could pony up real assets? Like gold, maybe? Is it time for new world-cops?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:01 | 4457801 Dr. Engali
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What if the US gave that control over to the UN Security Council as a means to settle our debt?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:19 | 4457909 Spastica Rex
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LOTs of potential out there.

I think you and I are living through a big change, here.

For the time being, anyway.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:26 | 4457581 quasimodo
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Nice to know the WH is so concerned about the security forces......gee I wonder why.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:26 | 4457582 unrulian
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Fuck the EU

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:36 | 4457641 Crash Overide
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Ukraine being Egypted?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:26 | 4457954 BorisTheBlade
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Soon to be Libyarated.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:41 | 4457671 Skin666
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And fuck Putin and Russia too! He has skimmed roughly 70 BILLION during his tenure...

 

Fuck the Kleptocrats and the Plutocrats and cuntsack politicians.

 

END THE STATE.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:13 | 4457868 El Tuco
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Can somone explain to me how a KGB agent becomes the richest head of state in the world? How can someone like Vlad  accumulate 70 billion?

 

Here is the guy that put Yanukovych in power. He owns all of Eastern Ukraine.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinat_Akhmetov

 

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:32 | 4457991 El Tuco
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Sadly none of Putins cheer leaders can answer my question without admitting that he stole it from the Russian people.

Just a Junk....that's all they have ...

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:33 | 4458653 pot_and_kettle
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They to whom you refer cheer for the enemy of zionist sock puppets ( and their sycophants and apologists such as yourself ). 

 

Putin happens to be the current best antidote to global zionist poison; a breath of fresh air compared to the sewers which, sadly, you and your kind have become accustomed. 

 

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 17:52 | 4459380 El Tuco
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couldn't answer the question could you? How he a massed 80 billion? Did you ever think he might be a Zionist himself? You think the tribes don't fight among themselves?

 

Fuck are you stupid. you wouldn't know a Zionist if he took your last shekel....

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 21:09 | 4460115 StychoKiller
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"Well, I know my momma lubs me, but she could be jivin' too!"

Trust no one.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 00:59 | 4460869 pot_and_kettle
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Show me the statements of his 80 billion, his zionist proclivity, and these internecine rivalries; then and only then will I waste more keystrokes on you, Chaim.

 

I'll wait

 

Til then, munch foreskins.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:30 | 4458420 robertocarlos
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Those are just imaginary numbers in a computer bank account. They mean nothing until he purchases a Ferrari or Gucci handbag. Then he would be expanding the economy, at least in Italy. Somebody with responsibility has to be in charge of the accounts, else the money would be spent on something useless.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:27 | 4458388 Volkodav
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Proof?

or useless talkings?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 15:14 | 4458692 pot_and_kettle
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Actually 100 billion zillion. It's true because I sez so.  No, really.

O:-)   <----   earnest face.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 15:06 | 4458649 InspectorBird
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70 billion? in 14 years? ahh, thats just chump change, Bens/Yellens helicopter cant even last a month for so little.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:26 | 4457583 centerline
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Sooner or later these proxy wars are going lead to something bigger and uglier.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:36 | 4457646 Winston Churchill
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Somebody is going to miscalculate badly at some point.
They may have already with Ukraine.
Hubris should be a deadly sin.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 01:01 | 4459121 pot_and_kettle
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Turkey is the brewing cauldron that is going to explode northwards and will earn a SERIOUS bitch-slap, Cossack-style.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:48 | 4457707 Wile-E-Coyote
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We are due another war in Europe.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:03 | 4457811 Urban Redneck
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I'm hoping for Tu-95s buzzing the Bundestag under a clear mid-day sun, then Lavrov can come out and say "Sorry we were apparently issued our pilots advance copies of next years' charts"

We need something that conveys the gravity of the situation in the terms your average retard can grasp, yet costs as few innocent lives as possible.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:26 | 4457586 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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Fuck you nwo war mongers.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:27 | 4457592 Johnny Cocknballs
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A red line is where the US does some shit and blames someone else for it.

Obama may as well tell the Ukrainian govt not to blow up any American radio stations.

The man is a puppet of the banks and the mic and the zog - the unholy trinity of the global pornography of violence.

 

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:28 | 4457596 Moe Hamhead
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So, Putney Swope is "outraged".

Gimme a break!

What does the Ukraines' problems have to do with his tee-times?

Let's wait to hear from somebody the matters.  Is that you Vladimir?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:28 | 4457601 Dr. Engali
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I feel for these people trying to determine their own destiny, and sadly it will never happen with larger external forces inserting themselves in the fray. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:30 | 4457606 LawsofPhysics
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Many have said the same thing about the people of Detroit.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:14 | 4457878 rpboxster
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I disagree.  What happened in the D over the last 50 years was completely the fault of the people in the D and those they elected.  They did control their own destiny.  Only now is it out of their hands.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:33 | 4457995 LawsofPhysics
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Unfortunately, it's only the present and future that matters.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:31 | 4457615 holmes
Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:32 | 4457617 JohnG
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Bunch of pics, look and learn:

http://zyalt.livejournal.com/984735.html

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:32 | 4457619 buckwheat5000
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martin is a real pro zionist 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:32 | 4457620 buckwheat5000
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martin is a real pro zionist 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:33 | 4457623 Moe Hamhead
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What if people disagree re. their "destiny"?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:33 | 4457625 kurt
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Seem to me every time the Brotha say "red line" blood gonna flow and shit.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:34 | 4457630 LawsofPhysics
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"And Russia proclaims US/EU calls for sanctions as "Blackmail"" -

Okay then, turn off the pipelines to the E.Z.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:36 | 4457643 pashley1411
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And the USSA represents the military contractor-fraudster-rentier class, like in their own country?   Or the EU French/German banksta hydra, keep those interest payments coming?

Sad to be Ukrainian, when all your friends are enemies.   

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:38 | 4457648 lolmao500
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Obama is so full of shit. He would do the same if Russian-funded protesters marched on the White House...

Not to mention, pigs across the US already murder thousands every year for NOTHING.

AND THIS IS WHY ALL PEOPLE MUST BE ARMED... so when a people starts saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH with government's bullshit and the politician scum don't leave office and start shooting, the people can shoot back.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:38 | 4457651 Spungo
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There would be no more rape if women drew red lines on the areas you're not supposed to touch. Red lines are serious business.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:39 | 4457658 HamRove
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Paid rioters, trained to apply pressure to El Presidente on a domestic and international level so that the Ogliarchs can retain the rights to profits for the sale of natural gas.

Sure it's not as black and white as that, but this wouldn't be NEARLY as bad had the EU and the US not stepped in with big money to pretect their interests.

How long can the EU and US keep paying funny money to the rioters to keep this going? 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:40 | 4457661 Jason T
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general who can have 100 victories in 100 battles has no skill.

general who can win 1 battle without fighting.. he is one with skill.

communism ended without much fighting/bloodshed in the last war cycle that started in 1989.. this coming war cycle starting 2014.. blood win run wild I'm afraid.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:25 | 4458365 SDShack
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I think the war cycle you reference really began in 2001. Maybe even 1991.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:40 | 4457664 observer007
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Independent Newsticker Ukraine

also Videos:

 

http://tersee.com/#!q=ukraine&t=text

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:45 | 4457683 Save_America1st
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the Globalist template of riot, destabilize, and blame the anti-NWO government, is getting old and everyone knows the playbook by now.  This is Libya, Egypt, Syria, etc. all over again.  Obama is nothing but an NWO puppet bitch.  Couldn't lie his way into an all out war with Syria, so the Nobel Peace douche is now going along with war speak in Ukraine.  What a fucking NWO loser. 

I don't hear that piece of garbage saying that Venezuela or N. Korea has "gone over the line".  Noooooo....everything is great in those fucked up countries as far as o-loser is concerned.  They don't yet need the NWO to take over those shitholes just quite yet since they're being run so smoothly by their current corrupt, murderous regimes.

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:33 | 4457999 Tim_
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The jews love North Korea.


U.N. fund gives $15.1 mln to N. Korea in 2013

"The United Nations humanitarian fund created to speed up relief efforts around the world said it allocated $15.1 million for aid to North Korea in 2013."

"In 2012, the U.N. humanitarian fund allocated $12.9 million to North Korea."


U.S. relief agency to give aid worth US$1 mln to N. Korea

"A U.S. private relief agency plans to provide aid worth US$1 million to North Korea this year [2014] to help support North Korean children and other vulnerable people, a news report said Thursday."

"World Vision Inc. also plans to provide clean water to more than 8,000 North Koreans in provincial areas while providing nutritional assistance to children under the age of six, according to the report by the Washington-based Radio Free Asia."

"The Christian organization plans to expand its humanitarian project in other rural areas, the report said."


S. Korea approves private humanitarian aid to N. Korea

"The two private aid groups are allowed to ship nutritional and medical supplies worth 240 million won (US$227,000) to infants, children and people suffering tuberculosis in the North, unification ministry spokesman Kim Eyi-do told reporters."

"The planned aid brought the total amount of assistance to the North by South Korea's private aid groups to 6.8 billion won since February when President Park Geun-hye took office in Seoul. South Korea has also shipped aid worth 13.5 billion won to the North through international organizations since February."

"The latest approval came more than a week after North Korea threatened to mercilessly strike South Korea without notice if anti-North Korean protesters insult North Korean leader Kim Jong-un again."


S. Korean aid to N. Korea grows 26 pct in 2013 on-year

"South Korea has sent 17.8 billion won (US$16.7 million) in humanitarian aid to North Korea in 2013, a 26 percent increase from last year, despite the spike in cross-border tensions, the Seoul government said Sunday."

"In a report released by the Ministry of Unification, the total amount of aid sent to the communist country, including money donated to international organizations, represents a 26 percent increase from 14.1 billion won offered in 2012."


FIFA gives funds to improve soccer academy in N.K.

"FIFA started providing support to the North from 2001 onwards, with around $2 million having been spent so far on six development projects."


Int'l Red Cross aid to N. Korea to rise 7.8 pct in 2014

"The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC) said Wednesday that it plans to give US$7.15 million worth of aid to North Korea in 2014, up 7.8 percent from this year."

"The organization also said in its updated 2012-15 long-term report that it will allocate $7.96 million for 2015 to help the communist country. The report showed that the IFRC set aside $6.63 million to help the impoverished country this year, up from $4.40 million spent in 2012."


World Food Programme Inaugurates New Biscuit Factory in DPR Korea

"A new factory in Pyongson City brings to 14 the total number of facilities producing fortified foods for WFP programmes in DPR Korea."


S. Korea to give US$6.3 mln in humanitarian aid to N. Korea

"South Korea will give US$6.3 million won in humanitarian aid to North Korea through a United Nations agency, the unification ministry said Monday."

"Besides money to be sent to the WHO, Seoul plans to allow 12 civic groups to send 2.35 billion won (US$2.13 million) worth of aid to the North in 13 different projects, the ministry official said."


Seoul's Red Cross to provide US$100,000 for flood-hit N. Korea

"The Korean Red Cross plans to provide North Korea with an emergency fund of US$100,000 to help flood victims in the communist country, an official from the organization said Friday."


Red Cross to provide US$320,000 for flood-hit N. Korea

"The international Red Cross has said it will provide North Korea with an emergency fund of US$320,000 to help flood victims in the communist country."


U.N. to give N. Korea US$2.1 mln in flood aid: report

"The United Nations has decided to provide more than US$2 million in emergency relief to flood-stricken North Korea this year, a news report said Wednesday."


S. Korea sets aside 40.2 billion won for DMZ peace park project

"The government set aside 40.2 billion won (US$37.3 million) in next year's budget proposal for a project calling for the establishment of a peace park in the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) on the border with North Korea, according to the draft budget Thursday."

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:07 | 4458227 Frostfan1
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How did we get to this topic and when did South Koreans start to be called Jews?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:44 | 4457687 Pseudo Anonym
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just like in ukraine, the occupy wall street was also about corruption

This is the corruption that lies at the core demand..... This is the core issue and why thousands of protesters have staked their lives on their desire for political change.

but nuthin' came out of it because prosecuting financial crimes and individuals involved in the greatest ponzi scheme would be anti-semitic.  for that reason, the crimes and corruption must continue.  at least here because we dont want to be called anti-semites for jailing criminals.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:45 | 4457694 swass
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Obamas opinions in this matter will be nice to reflect on if SHTF in US at some point.  I have no doubt Obama would be the first to push the button on trying to label every protestor a terrorist and having DHS come in with their humvees and millitarized swat teams to take care of things.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:52 | 4457731 Save_America1st
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oh, don't you worry...his Marxist ass is all about crushing any patriotic opposition to the MUTANTS in this country.  As the current puppet leader of the MUTANTS, he and the rest of his group of MUTANTS will use every piece of trash, treasonous, scumbag and foreign mercenary type possible against us, and they'll definitely be shooting at us first like the psychopaths that they are.

Remember:  Zombies are fake...but MUTANTS are real...fight them every chance you get...

M.arxist

U.topian

T.reasonous

A.uthoritarian

N.efarious

T.yrannical

S.ociopaths

 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:49 | 4457714 LaoTzu60606
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wtf?

our oligarchs are more righteous than yours?

the only difference between Ukraine and the USA is a very

effective pharmaceutical distribution system...

 

"It is widely viewed that..."...by whom??

"The changes that followed the Orange Revolution simply weren’t deep enough..."

 

try a imo or im-h-o next time marty

 

lt


Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:56 | 4457755 Turin Turambar
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White House outraged?  Why?  Obama didn't get his "fair share" with a drone?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 12:59 | 4457760 Smegley Wanxalot
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  • WHITE HOUSE URGES UKRAINE PRESIDENT TO IMMEDIATELY WITHDRAW SECURITY FORCES FROM DOWNTOWN KIEV, RESOLVE CRISIS BY engaging the National Park Service go kick their asses
  • WHITE HOUSE SAYS OUTRAGED BY IMAGES OF UKRAINIAN SECURITY FORCES "FIRING AUTOMATIC WEAPONS ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE" instead of getting Park Service Nazis and IRS Assholes do the dirty work
  • Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:05 | 4457804 Emergency Ward
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    POTUS Spokeshole: "Make no mistake, the President is outraged at the situation in Ukraine, but is unable to speak personally today because he is at a Disposition Matrix meeting in the War Room where he is selecting the next Muslim country to bomb."

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:13 | 4457814 JR
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    The intrigues underneath the Ukraine crisis have the fingerprints of many non-Ukrainians all over them – and that includes Americans. Consider this:

    "IIRC a doctor from the clinic in Vienna were Yushchenko was treated was forced to resign after giving an interview where he said the poisoning was a load of bollocks."

    U.S. Played Big Role in Ukraine's Orange Revolution: We Treated Poisoned Yushchenko,  Admit Americans |The Independent U.K.

    By Andrew Osborn  - 12 March 2005

        Compelling evidence of America's behind-the-scenes role in Ukraine's orange revolution has come to light after a team of US doctors admitted it secretly treated the country's new pro-Western President Viktor Yushchenko for poisoning during his election campaign

        Washington has been cagey about disclosing the extent of its involvement in last December's change of power in Ukraine for fear of offending Russia, which was itself accused of meddling.

        Moscow had backed Mr. Yushchenko's rival, the pro-Russian candidate Viktor Yanukovych and, since his defeat, has struggled to come to terms with its sudden loss of influence in a country it traditionally regarded as a close ally.

        Russian politicians insist Washington orchestrated the "coup" in order to take Ukraine out of Russia's orbit and propel it towards Nato and the EU. In turn, it is frequently inferred in Ukraine that the poison Mr. Yushchenko ingested by eating a bowl of soup originated in Russia and was administered by pro-Russian forces, if not by Russia's secret service.

        The poison, a heavy dose of dioxin, turned the previously photogenic Mr. Yushchenko's face into a rash of suppurating lesions and unsightly blotches and seriously undermined his health. His aides believe it was intended to kill him.

        But Ukraine's new government says it knows precisely who poisoned the President. However, it says the investigation is not finished and no "guilty" individual or state has yet been named.

        America has denied helping Mr. Yushchenko, whose wife Kateryna is American. It is, however, an open secret that Washington funded pro-democracy youth groups which played a major role in the transition of power and organised the huge street demonstrations that helped him win the re-run of a fraudulent election.

        A Washington-based PR firm called Rock Creek Creative has also boasted of playing a significant role in branding and developing a pro-Yushchenko website but was forced to backtrack after its admission caused an uproar in Russia.

        The evidence gathered by The Washington Post - from two US officials, two American doctors and the head of the Austrian clinic where Mr. Yushchenko was treated - is the strongest yet that America's role was greater than it let on. Gregory Saathoff, the lead doctor and head of the University of Virginia's critical incident analysis group, confirmed a team of six US doctors analysed Mr. Yushchenko's case, first from a distance and then in person. Samples of his hair, nails and blood were brought to Washington for analysis. Mr. Saathoff said the doctors were responding to a request from Mr. Yushchenko's family which came through the Pentagon.

        He claims the US government was not involved but a US official has admitted the State Department provided logistical support for the doctors' trip to Vienna last December.

        Officials said that the US ambassador to Ukraine, John Herbst, also helped as did the US embassy in Vienna.

        Robert McConnell, head of the US-Ukrainian Foundation, was involved in the operation and says it had to be kept a secret at the time.

    THEN THIS:

    Justin Raimondo on December 1, 2013

    Remember the "Orange Revolution"?

    “Yushchenko’s popularity also slid rather precipitously, as the alleged "poisoning" was increasingly called into question, including by his former chief advisor – and godfather to his child – David Zhvania, who contends the evidence for the poisoning was faked. A number of individuals, including a former prosecutor, have since come forward with more evidence that the "poisoning" was a stunt designed to discredit the opposition and propel Yushchenko into office. I wrote extensively about the "poisoning," raising doubts about its authenticity and the scientific evidence that seemed to verify it. Lothar Wicke, the chief medical officer of the clinic that examined Yushchenko, said from the beginning that there was no evidence of poisoning, and claimed to have been threatened by Yushchenko’s supporters.

    “Ukraine’s "Orange Revolution" – financed in large part by Western "pro-democracy" government agencies, including NED/USAID in the US and their British and European equivalents – was really the beginning of a new cold war with Russia. A renewed East-West confrontation had been brewing ever since Putin threw out the thieving "pro-Western" oligarchs who surrounded Russian President Boris Yeltsin and started challenging the Western agenda of global dominance.”

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2013/12/01/ukraine-defends-its-sovereignty/

     

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:20 | 4458321 Volkodav
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    Don't forget Putin poisoned Litvinenko...cos the media told you so....

    "The Phony Litvinenko Murder" William Dunkerly

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:05 | 4457825 autofixer
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    Obamao is only outraged because he thinks this might give some Amerikans ideas.  "Stop it, Stop it, Stop it, Stop it" -Sinead Obamao.  

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:26 | 4457958 Spastica Rex
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    Leave Sinéad out of it.

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:27 | 4458386 Platinum
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    What's this about Sade?

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:10 | 4457854 Typing Typer
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    When Russia sends in troops to "stabilize" the situation then we'll know it's serious.

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:44 | 4458064 El Tuco
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    Hold on didn't they try that in Chechnya and get their asses handed to them?

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:15 | 4458268 Volkodav
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    Drunk Yeltsin did that..without serious preparation and wrong units for the job..

     

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:12 | 4457861 Democratic koolaid
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    Excuse me for saying so to the fellow Koolaid drinkers on zeroheadge.com

     

    But  BERAKING NEWS; Europa regina is defending Ukrainian Koolaid suplys in Kiev as we speak.

    Person A; Its good to see all those Europeans protesting in Kiev.

    Person B; Ya, they must have  all bought a one way bus ticket to get there.

    Is this the Anarchist spoon/phase coming out of the Swizz army knife of tricks? 

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:29 | 4457969 Spastica Rex
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    Bohemia is the heart and Lithuania is the hoo-ha?

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:15 | 4457874 Chuck Knoblauch
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    Where is the picture of the gassed Ukranian children? Just recyle the Syrian picture produced by the Zionist Hollywood wana bees.

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:22 | 4457927 Temporalist
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    If I become a "rebel" somewhere do I get funding?

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:28 | 4457965 MollyHacker
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    But if it is on Wall Street it's ok to use force. Example of bigotry of u.s goverment diplomacy.

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:30 | 4457975 lolmao500
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    Some more news...

    Growing tension is attempt of coup d'etat in #Ukraine - Russian Foreign Ministry

    KIEV MAYOR LEAVES PRESIDENT YANUKOVICH PARTY - INTERFAX

    Threats of sanctions against #Ukraine look like blackmail - Lavrov

    Declaration of state of emergency in Ukraine seen likely today

    UKRAINE EXTREMISTS TRYING TO PROVOKE CIVIL WAR: LAVROV

    Russia to help Ukraine solve the crisis, if Yanukovych asks

    "Another president may sign it’: EU eyes Ukraine opposition as Kiev rejects trade deal"

    Military personnel, refusing following orders is being attacked [or being physically beaten, can be translated both ways] in several places and needs help.

    ABC : police in the Western Ukraine were joining the protesters.

    SEVERAL UKRAINE-POLAND BORDER CROSSINGS BLOCKED

    A train of 10 cars, with 500 Ukrainian soldiers heading to Kiev, was stopped by the protesters laying on the tracks.(BBC).

    Hundreds of riot police, hungry and tired, stopped fighting and kinda capitulated to the protesters.

    Reports of soldiers executed by officers because they did not wanted to go out and shot protesters.

    Security forces in #Kiev permitted to use firearms as self-defense - #Ukraine's Interior Ministry

    GERMANY'S MERKEL URGES UKRAINE'S YANUKOVICH IN PHONE CALL TO ACCEPT OFFER OF EU TO SUPPORT TALKS BETWEEN GOVT AND OPPOSITION. Putin: "Nyet"

    Reuters writes that Russia freezes $15 billion bailout to Ukraine

    Ukraine ruling party lawmaker says 25 allies ready to quit - TV

    The European Union is set to back sanctions on those responsible for violence in Ukraine, as well as to impose an arms embargo on the country, according to a draft text of an EU ministerial statement obtained by Reuters.

    YANUKOVICH INTERRUPTS TALKS WITH EU MINISTERS TO CALL PUTIN - TVN24

    Interior Ministry statement: Firearms being distributed among policemen enabling them to use weapons.

    CNN reports over 100 killed in Kiev, Ukraine today.

    PUTIN TO SEND OMBUDSMAN LUKIN TO KIEV TO MEDIATE: INTERFAX

    67 UKRAINIAN POLICEMEN HAVE BEEN TAKEN HOSTAGE BY ANTI-GOVERNMENT PROTESTERS - INTERIOR MINISTRY

    How to win against a dictatorship... stop paying taxes en masse, pigs stop being paid... WIN...

    Interfax: Army, Navy must be ready for any scenario to defend Russia - Putin

    You know what that means...

    #euromaidan ppl in #Dnipropetrovsk stooped train with special forces

    YANUKOVICH "PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE" FOR VIOLENCE - YATSENYUK

    Fight broke out in the parliament

    WHITE HOUSE URGES UKRAINE PRESIDENT TO IMMEDIATELY WITHDRAW SECURITY FORCES FROM DOWNTOWN KIEV

    According to some sources the opposition wants the West to intervene with force.

    WHITE HOUSE SAYS OUTRAGED BY IMAGES OF UKRAINIAN SECURITY FORCES "FIRING AUTOMATIC WEAPONS ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE"

    But pigs killing innocent americans all day long is alright...

    Live stream of #Ukraine parliament seems to confirm reports that much of #Yanukovych's Party of Regions has fled the country.

    Full blown crisis in Ukraine: Now a bank run underway

    Banking system on the verge of collapse, queues of hundreds of people

    The Ukrainian Olympic Team has quit Sochi and headed for home.

    In any case, “There is still no clear indication of which way the meeting will go on sanctions, with some arguing that a harder approach could push the country towards a civil war,” Leo Cendrowicz reports from Brussels for the Guardian

    Which is the goal...

    Ukraine sanctions being "fast tracked" -- now at the White House ready for Obama signature

    Both sons of Yanukovich took off from Donetsk airport and left the country.

    "Berkut riot police from the western city of Uzhhorord have refused to mobilize on Kiev, swearing an oath of loyalty to the people"~UNIAN

    While in Venezuela...

    VENEZUELA PROTESTS ESCALATING INTO NATIONWIDE UNREST: IHS

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:33 | 4458000 viator
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    Believe me, with the excption Vlad the Impaler the world will ignore it. Europe couldn't fight it's way out of a paper bag. Europe can't even save Europe.  Obama is too busy transformaing America to care.

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:39 | 4458038 Chuck Knoblauch
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    George Soros is a Zionist pig.

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:11 | 4458238 Frostfan1
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    George Soros is an anti-zionist pig and green arrowing the above comment only shows your ignorance or enjoyment that anyone who is called a zionist gets a green arrow.

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:35 | 4458008 viator
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    Meanwhile in other parts of the world:

    Venezuela is not far behind the Ukraine. The Central African Republic death toll far exceeds the Ukraine, with the added complication of Christian vs. Muslim conflict and arabic speaking Muslim militias from outside CAR.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/20/us-venezuela-protests-idUSBREA1J1BX20140220

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/centralafricanrepublic/10638550/The-hellish-descent-of-the-Central-African-Republic.html

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:37 | 4458018 Chuck Knoblauch
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    Bush had the headwinds of 911 at his back. Gave Bush credability, until he flushed it away by not holding Saudi Arabia responsible for 911. Obozo has no 911 event to push the neoconservative agenda down the road..

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:39 | 4458033 NoTTD
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    Time for a futile and stupid gesture:

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep-xgd_eETE

     

    ...And I know just the guy to do it.

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:39 | 4458041 nowhereman
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    Putin stopped them in Syria, so now, for pay-back, it's the Ukraines turn.

    I'm calling bullshit on this, because I refuse to believe anything the MSM says is happenning.

    The drum beats of war. Citizens, as canon fodder for the Bankers and the Military Industrial Complex.

    Have we not learned anything?

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:44 | 4458058 Chuck Knoblauch
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    Police in Ukraine need your support. Send them your prayers.

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:28 | 4458403 viator
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    You mean those snipers up on the roofs shooting the people?

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:43 | 4458059 x-moose
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    Ukraine reachest man Rinat Ahmetov fled to London.

    http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2014/02/20/7015276/

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:46 | 4458080 NoTTD
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    Bottom line:  We have no way of knowing what is going on there, or why.  Every report is tainted by viewpoint.  

    Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:08 | 4458231 Chuck Knoblauch
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    You want proof of US involvement in/manipulation of Ukraine sovereignty?

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2553509/US-officials-four-letter...

    Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!