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European Union Commits To Sanctions Against Ukraine

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Following hours of talks between three European foreign ministers and Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych in Kiev, the EU has decided to go ahead with sanctions:


Having already proclaimed this move as "blackmail", we are sure the Russians will be utilizing this move to further their support for the catastrophically divided nation.


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Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:51 | 4458109 LawsofPhysics
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Headline to follow; "Putin closes valve" and back the ruble with oil, gas, coil, and PMs.  Shortly after signing trade deal with China and Iran.  Fuck the E.Z.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:52 | 4458124 Cult_of_Reason
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"we are sure the Russians will be utilizing this move to further their support for the catastrophically divided nation"

What a retarded nonsense! Pro-Putin Zero Hedge went full retard.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:54 | 4458138 LawsofPhysics
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What ZH thinks is irrelevant.  In the larger context, given the resources, physical assets, and cheap currency at Russia's disposal, what does the E.Z. have to offer the Russians?

This reminds me of the sheriff "hostage scene" in Blazing Saddles.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:57 | 4458165 Cult_of_Reason
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Russia's oligarchy (that is, the control of the state and economy by a small group of well-placed, extremely wealthy insiders) is alive and well in Russia.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:59 | 4458179 Divided States ...
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its not really clear by the they mean sanctions on the Ukraine government or the citizens of Ukraine?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:00 | 4458191 mayhem_korner
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Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:02 | 4458202 Derezzed
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And F**k the E.U

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:09 | 4458216 Cult_of_Reason
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Putin needs to keep selling his oil and gas in order to keep Russia solvent.

The customer is always right.

When will Zero Hedge realize that Putin is not the customer?

Putin is a toothless ex-KGB prick controlled by Russian oligarchy. Where do Russian oligarchs keep the majority of their funds? (Clue for the clueless, not in Russia)

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:09 | 4458243 john39
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as long as he keeps tooling obamao and EU, he is OK in my book.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:19 | 4458309 johnQpublic
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....and lenny bruce is not afraid.....

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:32 | 4458384 Cult_of_Reason
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Sanctions threat against Ukraine looks like blackmail - Sergei Lavrov

How about future sanctions against Russian oligarchy Mr. Lavrov (if Russia violates the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances for Ukraine)?

No wonder his face in that picture looks like Lavrov (and his boss Putin) is shitting his pants.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:33 | 4458435 kralizec
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Wait. What?  Sanctions against Ukraine are sanctions against Ukraine...WTF does Russia have to do with it?

Wait, Russia has an interest in Ukraine?  I thought Ron Paul said NO EU/US or Russia in Ukraine?!


Thu, 02/20/2014 - 15:17 | 4458444 Cult_of_Reason
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Re: "If Russia violates the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances for Ukraine"

The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.

BTW, according to this document, Russia is even obligated "to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest"

("economic coercion designed to subordinate" as for example cutting off gas supplies to Ukraine)

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:32 | 4459064 TerminalDebt
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Stop beating around the bush and start the bloody war already, we all know the MIC need the money.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 17:07 | 4459205 Volkodav
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Russia is not the aggressor here...


Thu, 02/20/2014 - 18:49 | 4459601 Paveway IV
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One of the heads of the Ukrainian opposition just said the world should see the riots for what they are: a proxy war by the Ukrainian people against the Russian Mafia. That would explain why there's so much support from predominantly Russian sections of Ukraine. 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 19:33 | 4459780 Urban Redneck
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You don't understand international law do you? It's the protesters who are using "force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine"

The Memorandum on Security Assurances - can used as justification for Yanukovych inviting the Russians in so they can LIQUIDATE the protesters.

The with the EU slapping sanctions on the government (which has legal and outstanding obligations to the Russian government and gas company), the EU can be accused of economic coercion designed to subordinate Ukraine to its own interest.

The Barry & Barroso are playing checkers (and right into Putin's hand) and the PEOPLE of UKRAINE are going to be that much fucked for it for their miscalculation.

When did the EU start replacing diplomats with QUOTA MONKEYS? At least the old-school rich asswipes understood the way the world worked (even if they couldn't draw a decent line on a map to save their lives).

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 21:50 | 4460260 Cult_of_Reason
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Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:35 | 4458452 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And using mercenaries err contractors to train opposition protesters along with paying them isn't. Get real both sides are violating the spirit of the agreement without violating the letter of it.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:18 | 4458245 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Only one EU customer matters and they are taken care of if the gas gets shut off.

The rest of Eastern Europe can eat Greek cake....

They will just use scorched earth monetary and otherwise policy like they did to Greece and Cyprus on each outlier if it comes down to it.



Thu, 02/20/2014 - 15:39 | 4458814 Anusocracy
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If one government supporter died for each protester that died, the Ukraine would eventually become the best country on earth.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:11 | 4458254 LawsofPhysics
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Yes, but what is that "customer" offering in exchange?  You really think the Russian people would complain if he made energy inexpensive for them and their bussinesses?

You are retarded.  In addition, there are other customers and perhaps China has some

If you think that "the customer is always right" walk into your favorite restaurant and urinate on the floor, then demand service.  Let us know how that work out for you.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:16 | 4458285 kralizec
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Only works if these other customers get preferential (crony) prices.  Same as it ever was...

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:20 | 4458303 Cult_of_Reason
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Re: You really think the Russian people would complain if he made energy inexpensive for them and their businesses?

Significant drop in oil/gas prices => Russian government bankruptcy

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:39 | 4458486 LawsofPhysics
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LMFAO!!!!!   By that logic Russia and America should have gone bankrupt several times over.

Please, there is plenty of demand for oil/gas retard. (inside and outside of Russia).

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 21:47 | 4460249 Cult_of_Reason
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Fact: Oil and gas exports account for 50% of Russia’s budget revenue. Putin MUST keep oil/gas exports flowing. If oil prices drop just to $80, Russian government budget will lose its lifeline, and there won’t be enough money to fund all state programs. If oil prices drop to $60, many Russian will not be happy with Putin when they don't get their government checks, and whatever you see in Kiev today will happen in Moscow (and pro-Kremlin Zero Hedge, the flock of Putin's sheep, and RIA Novosti will start blaming CIA for riots in Moscow).

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:39 | 4458400 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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They got a vastly under served market to the East aka Occidental market. China is right next door for starters.... That haven't even begun to tap the full potential of the market let alone put in the infrastructure to wrest full control away from the US shipping LNG across the Pacific yet.

Chinese/Russian money/power paradigm can easily replace the US/ME money/power paradigm when it comes right down to it but not without an outright war which probably won't happen just yet.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:03 | 4458208 john39
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the EU can offer debt, cronyism and corruption.  worth dying for?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:58 | 4459172 Volkodav
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You left out third world immigrants criminals and raping

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:00 | 4458186 CrashisOptimistic
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CoR, so what?

Their oil predates the oligarchy.  Oil doesn't care about politics.  Europe can talk brave in mid to late February.  Their natgas storage can get them to summer.  Were it September, they would be saying different things.

You need to stop thinking old normal thoughts and recognize that oil decides everything.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:04 | 4458212 ZeroPower
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Please explain how this is different in the USSA.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:23 | 4458346 superflex
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"America's oligarchy (that is, the control of the state and economy by a small group of well-placed, extremely wealthy insiders) is alive and well in America."

Fixed that for ya.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:16 | 4458282 SAT 800
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The same thing a Jewish Wife has to offer; Kvetching; and plenty of it.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:54 | 4458149 unrulian
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I will say it again....Fuck the EU

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:54 | 4458152 Carpenter1
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Cult has Stockholm Syndrome for his cruel banker masters.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:52 | 4458130 mayhem_korner
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...or maybe disengage the pressure regulators and have himself a little bar-b-q

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:10 | 4458250 CourageousDogSn...
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Headline to follow; "Putin closes valve" and back the ruble with oil, gas, coil, and PMs.  Shortly after signing trade deal with China and Iran.  Fuck the E.Z.

It's not that simple. Pipelines and pumping stations take years to build. The infrastructure is already in place to supply Europe. What Putin will not do is take his ball and go home.

The protestors are going to find out how difficult it is to belt out the Ukrainian national anthem with a gun in their mouths.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:20 | 4458315 SAT 800
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Something like that. They're not Americans, you can't just bullshit them for five minutes and then go play golf; "some fatalities" are always necessary to convince anyone of anything around there.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:41 | 4458495 SAT 800
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A Visa ban? boy, that'll teach 'em. no more visits to Europe, eh. that's going to just break their hearts.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 15:39 | 4458813 Mountainview
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At the time we speak three European Football League matches are played in Ukraine. One of the Dynamo Kiew against Valencia take place without any hurts. No sanctions there, only the referees against the players. Strange world!!!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:51 | 4458120 666
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Checkmate for Putin?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:51 | 4458122 Winston Churchill
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A classical Act of War.
Wonder how Vladimir will see it.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:54 | 4458148 redpill
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Vlad's been at war for a long time.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:57 | 4458169 BandGap
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He's seeing it through eyes that watched the Finns knock the Russian hockey team out ofthe medal round.

WTF sanctions are we talking about?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 19:41 | 4459801 Urban Redneck
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If they're just talking about the unilateral EU sanctions on military and dual use technologies, then it's purely PR to make the do-gooders feel good themselves without actually doing anything (much less anything good). The standard EU "package" has more and wider loopholes than banking regulations crafted by Blankfein, Dimon & Buffet LLP.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:53 | 4458135 Carpenter1
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Oh no! Not sanctions,  like the ones that worked so well against Iran. These clowns just dont have any new tricks.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:57 | 4458164 Winston Churchill
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Only took 26 years of sanctions to bring Rhodesia
to heel.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:01 | 4458194 insanelysane
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30 seconds after this press release France was figuring out how much stuff they could sell to the Ukraine.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:33 | 4458347 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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Actually, he (Hollande) thought how much he can tax fleeing Ukrainian political elite.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 20:03 | 4459823 tip e. canoe
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eventually giving the world its 1st 100 trillion dollar note.

boy those europeans are sure trendsetters, aren't they?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:54 | 4458142 mayhem_korner
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Think those EU foreign ministers had to bring those little air-sickness baggies into their meeting? 

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:55 | 4458153 ebworthen
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Punish the most vulnerable in the population.

The UN will have to hold a lot of catered commiittee meetings to discuss this.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:21 | 4458328 SAT 800
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Brussels. T he capital of the little country that can't run it's own government; but knows all about running yours. Blehh.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:24 | 4458353 Who Laughed
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One from the toilet paper play book

bunch of wankers

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:57 | 4458171 Iocosus
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Go long winter jackets

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:58 | 4458172 Ulterior
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Most of you are morons never seen ruskies in your life. Those of us who had a dis-pleasure being in USSR with them for 50 years we can only say - FCK PUTIN and all russia together, may it forever rot in hell

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:23 | 4458349 SAT 800
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Return to consciousness, please. It's not the USSR, and Putin is not Stalin.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 15:32 | 4458770 Anusocracy
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Dear Clueless,

The entire government in every country on earth and almost the entire population of every country on earth consist of stupid thieving savage pieces of shit.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 13:59 | 4458185 magpie
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Everyone knows the script by now, it's Libya, Egypt and Syria rolled into one. Sniping by "unknown" persons, car bombs and suicide bombers next.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:00 | 4458192 Boomberg
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And how does this hurt the Ukrainian government, since the cash and arms come from Russia and they can grow their own food? Only hurts the common folk who the EU supposedly support.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:01 | 4458197 Slartebartfast
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The CIA Regime Change Apparatus seems to have gotten their act together.  Of course, Vlad the Impaler will soon reply.  They couldn't steal Syria.  He's certainly not going to allow them to steal the Ukraine.

No matter all those poor people just trying to live and breathe in Kiev.  George Soros' CIA goons:  "we punch your face!!"

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:01 | 4458198 Mr Giggles
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Sanctions are starting to change.

Worked against Iraq.

Not against Iran nor Libya

Soon the west might feel sanctions as

we require more from the world than we

give in devaluing currency.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:03 | 4458204 earnyermoney
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Suspend the Export License of Repressive Gear? LOL

Where's the suspension of Natural Gas Export License?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:05 | 4458221 youngman
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Shut off their Vodka....that will quiet them down....

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:06 | 4458223 youngman
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Shut off their Vodka....that will quiet them down....

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:07 | 4458228 matrix2012
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It's good that now the ZATO Axis make the opaque the crystal clear. Now awaiting the Russian next move. Checkmate!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:08 | 4458232 JR
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The source for this crisis is the continuing campaign for world government: war in the Middle East, enlsiting the powers of the Far East, and pushing the border with Russia constantly inward. And where is the bubbling center for these approaches? The private bank of the United States and owner of the world reserve currency, the financier-owned Federal Reserve System.

Who else has the control of the European Union?

While some may not like it said, if this isn’t blackmail then there is no such word.

There are two sides to the Ukrainian argument; there is the Russian side and there is the banker side. Big surprise that the political part of the European Union is synonymous with international bankers - and that the latter are going to bring all of their paid toadies to help with this blackmail.

And that includes Barack Obama – the most purchased president in the history of the United States!!

If Americans are going to accept this form of tyranny for other peoples of the world, then they might as well hold out their wrists to accept the chains that are coming, chains which by thier complacency and/or acceptance they will have helped forge.

The world is aflame and the source of those flames is coming from the United States Federal Reserve System,

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:11 | 4458253 Rising Sun
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bullshit - all the mid east shit is a side show and an excuse to fight


natgas - Ukraine pipes Russian natgas to Europe - who controls this?  Russia or Europe?  That's the battle.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:16 | 4458283 JR
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There are no side shows.
The wars, the tensions, the propaganda and the lies are one big war -- the banks versus the people.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:19 | 4458306 Rising Sun
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Of course the US makes billions selling weapons to both sides.  But this is tactical.


FACT:  Ukraine pipes most of Euro natgas from Russia


Europe would like to control this and so would Russia - and so we have our real fight.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:57 | 4458603 JR
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So the United States, as it has done repeatedly over this decade, has to go in and attack a sovereign nation?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:09 | 4458242 Rising Sun
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Careful Europe - you piss them off too much and they will shut off your natural gas supply - not joking here.


Ukraine already lives lean and a few missed natgas invoices won't matter.

Europe, on the other hand, is fucked up enough as it is.  Shutting off natgas supply would fuck Eurabia nicely over the short term - maybe over the longer term too.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:15 | 4458271 DeliciousSteak
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You forget that Russia is dependent on the income from that gas. If it stops selling to Europe for too long it's fucked - and besides, winter is almost over.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:17 | 4458291 Rising Sun
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I didn't forget that - Russia is used to starving.  Russia doesn't give a shit about that.  Europe is a land full of handouts and whiny marshmallows.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:20 | 4458318 DeliciousSteak
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Russia will have a Ukraine of its own in their hands if its economy collapses again - but then again, Russia is also used to killing each other so they might even fancy a round of that.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:26 | 4458375 Rising Sun
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Now you are understanding - Russia doesn't give a fucking shit - they have lost their country - they have nothing else to lose.


So someone tried to have an election in Ukraine and they poisoned him:


Now a Kremlin ally is in charge.


The Russians don't give a flying fucking shit - get it???

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:40 | 4458490 DeliciousSteak
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You're saying Russia will collapse their economy just to get back at the EU. I'm saying you're wrong. Russia does indeed give a fucking shit and then some.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:45 | 4458507 Rising Sun
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Not at all - Russia has other means to generate their own GDP.  Russia is largely a natural resource based economy.  


Russia has their boot on the throat of Eastern Europe if they control Ukraine's natgas network - which is what they currently have right now.


Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:45 | 4458524 DeliciousSteak
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We just went over this discussion, now you backtrack and ignore everything that was said. You're a waste of time.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:48 | 4458539 Rising Sun
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Really?  Read again oh inarticulate/forgetful one.


Russia will lose if they stop exporting natgas, but Europe will lose more and Russia knows this.


Not going to explain this again - go get a meal in you - your mind is playing tricks.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:50 | 4459138 Volkodav
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Doctor who examined ViktorYushchenko and said there was not poisoned was abruptly dismissed.

Otherwise, who gained by using to blame Putin..

cui bono?   always...

Reminds of brits exposed and don't want talk about it...


Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:24 | 4458362 Yen Cross
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    I'd sure as hell rather be in Russia then Southern Europe.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:26 | 4458383 Rising Sun
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Really?  Your choice.  I sure wouldn't.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:28 | 4458396 Yen Cross
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   Based on your comments that doesn't surprise me one bit.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:29 | 4458410 Rising Sun
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Fair enough.


But who gives a flying fuck what you think??

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:37 | 4458466 Yen Cross
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      Ahh, now the real level of intellect you possess is exposed in all it's glory. I'll bet you look really cute in your PJ's texting from your Mothers basement.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:40 | 4458491 Rising Sun
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cute in PJ's?  stop hitting on me faggot!!!!!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:43 | 4458510 Yen Cross
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     Your Mothers calling you for your daily ZIT popping session.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:46 | 4458529 Rising Sun
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your mother does deep knee bends on telephone poles.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:49 | 4458556 Yen Cross
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   You must have some deep rooted issues with your Mother.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:52 | 4458568 Rising Sun
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oh so now you are a psychiatrist too - very good indeed.


so what part of you KNOWS that you will walk out in front of a bus and get run over in the next few days?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 15:06 | 4458643 Yen Cross
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     I'm done with you. I've taken enough time from the forum, for which I appologize.

     You've shone the readers of Z/H your demented CHILDISH self in full glory. Based on your comments you really should seek some professional help for your anger and communication skills. It's obvious your parents lacked when it came to teaching you those attributes.



Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:45 | 4458511 Yen Cross
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Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:28 | 4458397 SAT 800
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It's 47F and sunny today in Berlin; nobody cares about Natural Gas when it's 47F; they're probably sun-bathing in the park.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:34 | 4458449 superflex
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They will when the lights go out because the NatGas fired turbines at the power plant wind down.

NatGas is not just for heat.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:49 | 4458554 Rising Sun
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instead of working, that's right - you got it!!!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:14 | 4458263 PontifexMaximus
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Is C.Ashton, my beauty queen, doing this work????? What a big LOL

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:15 | 4458274 Yen Cross
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    I guess Europe wants to spend the last 1/3 of the winter in the dark.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:20 | 4458324 Rising Sun
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For a continent that has been in the dark for the last 40 years, I don't think it matters.


Care for an entitlement or a check while you watch TV at home during the week?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:23 | 4458344 Yen Cross
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   Your a clown! All 7 weeks and (2) days of you. Did you just move into into a new basement with internet connection?

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:27 | 4458393 Rising Sun
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Ah yes, here we go.


So are you the load your mother should have swallowed??

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:31 | 4458422 Yen Cross
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    Ah yes here we go. Another unemployed child blobbing up Z/H with his childish bantering about things they have no personal knowledge of, other then what they've accumulated during their indoctrination/college years.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:38 | 4458478 Rising Sun
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So personal knowledge is all that can be shared here?  Really?  Your rules?


Childish bantering?  Did you invent this label?


You seem to be stuck on my collegiate existence - another assumption on your part?


Keep talking you fucking genius!!!


Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:48 | 4458540 Yen Cross
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     Awe, is baby getting upset? I'm stuck on your childish behavior, which I might add shows just what an immature little cretin you are.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:55 | 4458591 Rising Sun
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How poetic.  Can you re-read what you just wrote?  Say it in a loud and angry voice.  Keep saying it over and over again in your mind - louder and louder each time.

Feed that tumor!!!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:15 | 4458988 superflex
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You're not a very good troll.

We have much better here.


Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:26 | 4458374 viator
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Vlad is shaking in his boots.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:03 | 4458937 kralizec
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That's just from the BJs.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:30 | 4458417 magpie
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What if there are indeed Gods watching over our little world. Perhaps someone was planning a little Holodomor in the Land of the Free, but instead their wishes were granted and they will be allowed to have Holodomor 2 in the actual historical settings.

We truly live in strange times.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:31 | 4458425 Fix It Again Timmy
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Russia moved its ENTIRE industrial base eastward in front of the advancing German blitzkrieg, yep, dismantled it, put it on trains, moved it east and put it back together; in Stalingrad, Russsian tanks rolled off the production line and went right into battle a few streets down.  And WE can't even put together a healthcare website!  Don't worry about the Russians, they can take care of themselves....the Russian people have my utmost respect and admiration!!!!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:37 | 4458472 CourageousDogSn...
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What's your point. We were doing the same thing here in the states during the war. The Baltimore shipyards were producing liberty ships once every 48 hours.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:38 | 4459091 Volkodav
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What war? WW2 was not near Baltimore..

Really lame post.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 00:58 | 4460864 Leraconteur
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Read more. German U-Boats patrolled off the USA Eastern Seaboard and likely made it into harbours such as Baltimore and New York.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:30 | 4459052 Volkodav
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Russians are durable

very clever

and not scared of much

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:42 | 4458503 Cannon Fodder
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Sitting here eating my lunch and wondering why Europe should care about heating oil from Russia. I mean Europse survived for centuries up till now without it, right? Oh, but wait, we have globalization in which countries have now become dependendent upon each other. If I remember right, in Econ 101, economist claim this makes the world safer. I'm starting to think, yeah, until it doesn't. It just make bigger bargaining chips. It may prevent a war here and there, but with the big chips get put on the table it just creates a bigger war than if we hadn't all been so dependent upon each other.... welcome to globalization... may you live in interesting times...

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 17:28 | 4459294 Bazza McKenzie
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Much of Europe, including Germany in a fit of "green" driven madness, dismantled a lot of its coal burning power stations in favor of wind turbines that produce not much except whopping subsidies for their owners and turbine suppliers.  Thus, in an example of momumental strategic insanity, they made themselves even more dependent on Russian gas.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 14:49 | 4458553 NoWayJose
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And here I was thinking that the US and CIA were stirring up all the trouble in the Ukraine...  It looks like the EU is rattling their sabres too,,,  It's all about Russian control of oil and gas to Europe, and the failure of the 'Western Bloc' to topple Syria and gain that route...

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:21 | 4459010 Chuck Knoblauch
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EU buying US Treasuries pulls the US into the mess. Oh, don't forget about NATO. Wake up, the US and CIA are up to their eyeballs in this mess.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 15:46 | 4458853 Joe A
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Don't bite the hand that controls the gas valves.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:10 | 4458965 Anusocracy
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Unless you are in a gas chamber.

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 15:58 | 4458907 MarsInScorpio
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"Gazprom announces prices to EU will jump 10-fold for the remainder of the winter."



Thu, 02/20/2014 - 16:34 | 4458922 Chuck Knoblauch
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The gals in the White House/State Department are waging a hissyfit with a bear.


I hope the 5 white guys running intelligence in the US know WHEN to pull the plug on this administration!

Thu, 02/20/2014 - 20:03 | 4459879 Leraconteur
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Europeans once again sit by and watch people get slaughtered just as in Bosnia in 1993-5...

They want nations to join their Utopian European State, largest economy in the world, largest aggregation of middle class and above incomes in the world, 350+ million people, but they don't want to risk anything to make this happen.

It's always complicated, there are always risks, but Europeans use this as a pathetic excuse to never take action.

EU won't interfere in the matters of another sovereign state -- unless they are Malta, Cyprus deposit holders, Greek unemployed and impoverished pensioners, Spanish college graduates, the 30% to 60% unemployed in the southern tier of states, whites being raped by waves of recent immigrants, or any of the other nations that Brussels has crushed in the name of the EU and EuroZone.

They COULD recognise the independent Oblasts, allow them to apply for EU membership.

They COULD send support through the Polish border.


Cowards and aristocratic wanna-bes. 

I see nothing of value in European culture, values or social democracy.

The Ukrainians will want to join YOU after you sit by and do nothing?

I think not.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 00:11 | 4460775 StychoKiller
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OMG sanctions!  For a minute there, I thought they were gonna call the Park Police...

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 01:01 | 4460874 Leraconteur
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Russia is formidable, but only 110 million people vs 350 million in Europe. Europe, world's largest economy, 350million middle class. If that demographic cannot hold off a nation 1/3 the size (France and the Brits have nukes and boomers) then just give up.

Europeans have lost the plot. They want The Lifestyle, but they think it never has to be paid for in blood, that they can simply coast and cruise forever.

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