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NSA's Spying Program Set To Become Even Bigger
In the aftermath of the Snowden revelations about the NSA's ubiquitous presence in everyday lives, and unconstitutional interception, eavesdropping and recording of every form of electronic communication, the logical assumption would be that the next step for the NSA would be its reduction instead of expansion, especially following the president's heartfelt reading from the TOTUS several months ago in which he promised to do all he could, to curb the spy agency. "Surprisingly" expansion is precisely what will happen to the NSA - as WSJ reports the "government is considering enlarging the National Security Agency's controversial collection of Americans' phone records—an unintended consequence of lawsuits seeking to stop the surveillance program, according to officials." Unintended? It is very much intended now that Americans know that the concept of privacy is dead and buried and will instead seek other methods to communicate. Which simply means the NSA has to get even bigger in order to thwart the imminent, daily and "clear and present" danger that US citizen-cum-terrorists pose to the US despotic totalitarian state republic.
A number of government lawyers involved in lawsuits over the NSA phone-records program believe federal-court rules on preserving evidence related to lawsuits require the agency to stop routinely destroying older phone records, according to people familiar with the discussions. As a result, the government would expand the database beyond its original intent, at least while the lawsuits are active.
No final decision has been made to preserve the data, officials said, and one official said that even if a decision is made to retain the information, it would be held only for the purpose of litigation and not be subject to searches. The government currently collects phone records on millions of Americans in a vast database that it can mine for links to terror suspects. The database includes records of who called whom, when they called and for how long.
The irony is that all this is happening as the top drama actor of the US pretends to be dismantlling the agency:
President Barack Obama has ordered senior officials to end the government storage of such data and find another place to store the records—possibly with the phone companies who log the calls. Under the goals outlined by Mr. Obama last month, the government would still be able to search the call logs with a court order, but would no longer possess and control them.
At this point we also get the generic revisionist history false negative.
National Security Agency Director Keith Alexander has said the program, if it had existed in 2001, would have uncovered the Sept. 11 plot.
It would have also prevented the Boston bombing if it had existed in 2013. Oh wait...
The lies continue:
As the NSA program currently works, the database holds about five years of data, according to officials and some declassified court opinions. About twice a year, any call record more than five years old is purged from the system, officials said. A particular concern, according to one official, is that the older records may give certain parties legal standing to pursue their cases, and that deleting the data could erase evidence that the phone records of those individuals or groups were swept up in the data dragnet.
Surely this explains why the NSA recently built a facility in Bluffdale which according to rampant speculation can hold virtually every form of communication every intercepted, not to mention everything currently in print or any other stored medium. The thing is: we don't know how much it can store because none of the data is public.
Which is why the lies will continue until one day today's shocking scenes from the Ukraine are taking place in every US alley and square. But for now, the S&P is just shy of all time highs, so please continue your distraction.
The NSA data center in Utah will be up and running by the end of September (source: Forbes)
Level 0 of one of the four data halls on the Bluffdale site
Level 1 of the data hall, where servers will be housed
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Its for your own safety...and that of your innocent families..
...now cower in place and wet yourselves while your benevolent state protects you! No need to thank us, we get plenty from taxpayers with the help of politicans, cronies and state run media!
and to simplify your life and protect you further while spurring employment every one will be assigned someone who will stay with them constantly, and even dial your phone for you
all your you are belong to us
john connor
are you there john?
tell your mom to...ah er ahh...
It's gonna be one hell'va a ride, when the shootin starts......
How much more of this shit are we Americans gonna take? Apparantly, an endless amount, by the looks of it.
Beam me up, Scotty! PLEASE!
I hear all the office cubes look like the bridge of the Starship Enterprise. And everyone's hair is perfect.
Imma get a job there beotches, see if I don't.
O Say Can You See...........No, not any more.....
Maybe ZH can set up a wagering system on when the first EMP visits that place.
I will take a square for a dollar please.
The whole place is probably a Faraday Cage.
It'll take a direct hit to eliminate that monstrosity.
Why in the hell the good people of Utah won't simply turn off the power and water to this place is beyond me. They already voted to make PMs legal tender. Still baffled by this. Historically, the mormons have wiped people out in order to protect their "promised land".
>> the mormons have wiped people out
Oh, Mormons still wipe people out, but now it's for profits and not principals. See Mitt.
mormonism can be quite an effective tool for brainwashing and indoctrination. A very odd mix of Judaic/Masonic/Christian teachings. Almost talmudic in many ways. Generally good hardworking people, but, very subject to control by authorities. Note the massive influx of mormons into U.S. government positions, such as the FBI, CIA etc. they don't question so much, perfect for the position.
I have also heard that when the chicks rebel, it is epic!
pods
I have personally confirmed this. It is.
+1
Mormons = nice people but your comments are on the mark. They have really weird ethical blind spots. Do not buy anything online from Utah. The state has a lot of online fraud and the state attorney general does very little about it
It's the (Cult) religion, they have no trouble stealing or cheating anyone outside the Faith.....
Talk to one you trust......no....No-one? Me either.
Round two has just begun. Ding ding ding
<Is this a fifteen round championship fight?>
Good to see the US Army Corps of Engineers is now designing and overseeing construction of facilities to spy on us.
I dont recall that being part of their decree.
Payback is a bitch motherfuckers.
Technically the Army is unconstitutional, so everything else that flows from it is as well.
pods
The Congress shall have Power To ...raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years....Article I, Section 8, Clause 12
edit- you know, its bad enough that the government has ignored that restriction for a very long time... but just to safe, they have now turned the police into small local armies... man am i glad we live in a nation that honors the rule of law.
Hope & Change.
... is for chumps.
We're all blackmailable now
Politicians always do the opposite of what they promise. Kind of a big fuck you from the elite really.
Train your spy cameras on Kiev, the difference is going to be that we don't have to break into an armory to arm ourselves. We have the men (all studends of real history) who founded this country to thank for that. Think it cant happen here, please explain why not.
Oh, but it can!
won't happen here because we have too many gun-owning Constitutionalists who post comments to blogs encouraging someone else some time soon to take action rather than picking up their gun. Not directed at you.
Too many retards who watch TV and Hollywood's shit. Just flick on the TV for your daily brainwashing. Everytime they click on - they support the police state.
In the art of war, there is a time for everything. The time for guns has not yet come here, but have a good look at Ukraine and Venezuela. The Global State is hardening their facilities and troops (including the "CIVILIAN" police forces) as reapidly as they can. Please do likewise...
Ukraine and Venezuela are just convenient props displayed for all to see by the MSM to keep the frightened American sheep from escaping their slaughter pen.
They must need the cpacity to store all of our ZH posts...
those darn quantum computers ....moar data
LOL. You can't make this shit up. Hiring a lawyer is like voting or like "fighting for our freedoms." This is the world we've created. A world of bullshit.
false flag coming soon - otherwise this shit is getting silly even for the average sheeple i.e. new shoe bomber/toothpaste tube warnings... c'mon man
Odd how they never have a false flag in California or the West Coast.
Indeed, Freddie, great observation.
LAX TSA
Where are the plans of the subterranean levels with the Orcs and their Nazgul supervisors?
"National Security Agency Director Keith Alexander has said the program, if it had existed in 2001, would have uncovered the Sept. 11 plot."
I'm just so f'ing tired of the half truths and word games they play on a typically ignorant public. Maybe the current system would have, but the system in existence PRIOR TO 9/11 had ALL of the dots it needed to stop the attack cold, but it didn't. Many documentaries (and I'm not including the Truther conspiracy stuff) clearly document that.
It's like a guy telling you if he has his fingers or dick in your Wife's pussy he can make sure she doesn't fool around.
Fuck you and your derogatory "9/11 truther" shit. Yes, 9/11 was known in advance to many (those culpable and not), but there's a little problem with your point of view. It's called PHYSICS. It's called 100+ years of EXPERIENCE with steel framed construction.
Winston 'limited hangout' Smith 2009
2,158 architects and engineers are calling you out.
http://www.ae911truth.org/
Snowden may want to consider leaking something other than "big brother is watching" if he is the real deal and has the goods.
We all know how credit scores have become institutionalized in our society, and how they can affect our ability to function efficiently in everyday life. It affects our ability to get loans; qualify for a lease; even our ability to get certain kinds of jobs. Our credit score often seems beyond our control, but, at least we are allowed to see what it is.
Now imagine how your NSA, Facebook, Google, Twitter, and Amazon scores and profiles might be similarly used by others to affect your life. You can only imagine it, because, you are never allowed to see what it is inside the Central Planning Cloud.
Wait until some company builds a social profile of you...
"we know within 95% confidence that this person is pro/anti abortion, Christian/Mormon/insert belief, drinks 3.2 beers a week, voted X,Y,Z in last election, blah blah blah...." and then sells that info like a credit score. Imagine trying to get a job with your profile is readily available to HR....
I was just doing something online and they were going through the verifying if me is me process. One of the questions was about my ex-wife of over 30 years ago and her current married name. Everything about you is already tracked, correlated, cross tracked and sold to corporate America.
That is precisely why I do any genetic testing outside the US
Think of all the infrastructure that would actually be useful to people that could be built with all this money.
They don't solve problems, they implement control.
Humanity is sick in the head.
Just think of all the crypto currency they could mine!
I'd buy that BitCoin for a dollar!
The ministry of information will not be stopped.
Of course, if the siege lasts long enough, the castle will become a crypt.
pods
The big curved schlong looking diagram. Is that the blueprint of the largest motorized dildo in the world? Um, who do they plan on fucking with that thing?
Rhetorical question, right? ;-)
Let's see now, about the only person I could see swallowing that thing whole would be O'FlamingHomo.
Imperialism 2.0 has reached maturity. The coordinated actions of CBs/cartel to impose a confiscatory regimen on the global economy is in place.
In general failures and defeats during the expansion phase of empire are sloughed off. The clock has only just started. ZeroHeroes praying for collapse could be severely disappointed. The hopeful news is that the crime syndicate model is very expensive to operate. So it's possible a reckoning could come early.
...the People's Democratic Republic of the United States....
The NSA and the rest of them agencies don't work for the United States of America. They work for these fat fuckers that are so fat that their necks are the same size as their heads. I saw a photo of three of them when I was in NYC. The US Armed forces don't work for the United States of America either. Now the Military Industrial Complex hires mercenaries from foreign nationsas marines, navy and army personel.
We have been taken over by a group of fat fucking financial perverts.
I said it before, if they had caught one BANKSTER or inside trader or corrupt SEC entity, then maybe they could justify what they do, but since they haven't stopped a fucking thing, they speculate on "what ifs".
They are LYING and the spying isn't gonna stop no matter what.
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”
? Frank Zappa
I sure hope there's a whole bunch of naked ladies painted on that wall.
Because if not, then I've been sitting here a long time charturbating over nothing.
"The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."
-Princess Leia to Darth Vader
Honestly, The evil empire was built to get their ass WHIPPED by the good guys. It's A comin'.
Hey, Keith Alexander, you phoney, egotistical, self-serving, hypocritical Soldier of Fortune... All your toys and fortune could not have prevented it.
FACT is, that what failed was not Technology or its presence, but Human Nature in Positions Most High. FACT is that FBI's own agents (from the Phoenix anti-terrorist office) warned you fucks time and again, but they and their intel were "squashed". And said Agent, after having left the FBI (for a while) was "hired" to work in the NY office in the Twin Towers? Any guesses as to what happened to him? Are you stupid, or just hoping that enough of us are?
As Henry Kissinger, former US National Security Advisor and Secretary of State, once said: [March 10, 1975 in Ankara, Turkey]:
“The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.”
fitting that the NSA data center is shaped like a turd
But, there's no taper on the ends.
Looks more like a baloney sausage only Dear Leader could love.
It takes one employee to read, understand, and stop building that place looking, beside him. Education of the 4th Ammendment is key.
Speak kindley, they are citizens that have the same interests as us; They may not understand the gravity of what is happening. Help them.
When that one, turns into most and that facility is up in flames with the same lack of control used in its creation, I will be there with my weapons of choice to defend Americans. That is how it will roll.
I guarentee it.