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Russia Freezes Aid For Ukraine; Urges Respect For Legitimate Government
“We planned to allocate another tranche according to that arrangement. Yet in the current situation we have many questions as to how the money will be used and how it will be paid back," said Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov, according to ITAR-TASS this morning.
- *RUSSIA URGES RESPECT FOR UKRAINE SOVEREIGNTY, LEGITIMATE GOVT
Russia has suspended another tranche of financial aid for Ukraine because of the current tensions and plans to wait until the situation stabilizes to resume support afterwards, Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov told Bloomberg on Friday commenting on the Irish Stock Exchange’s report on Ukraine’s refusal to sell two-year Eurobonds of $2 billion. Russia was to buy bonds under the already approved $15 billion aid package.
“We planned to allocate another tranche according to that arrangement. Yet in the current situation we have many questions as to how the money will be used and how it will be paid back," said Siluanov.
Conditions for the second tranche were similar to those of the first, namely a two-year loan at a rate of 5 percent per annum, Siluanov added.
He also doubted the feasibility of currency interventions to support the hryvnia amid political instability.
“The national bank of Ukraine can now make efforts to bolster the hryvnia, but demand for foreign currency amid political uncertainty will remain high,” he said. “Therefore, interventions can prove a waste of gold and currency reserves that will lead to nothing and will not prevent the hryvnia's devaluation."
Of course, we suspect the "deal" does nothing to change their minds - especially as it increases the uncertainty of what the Russian aid will be used for.
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Well, now that the West's oligarch has been released the troops and police can shoot on the protesters...
Fuck Russian Imperialism!
Fuck Kremlin Putinism!
Fuck Russian Goverment Corruptionism!
Is this the game when the person with the most gold wins?
Russia and ex-KGB prick Putin can fuck off now!
BTW, Russian banks will lose $30 billion and ignite financial crisis in Russia if/when Ukraine defaults.
It's common sense not rocket science Tyler Durden.
Why do you need Martin Armstrong's nonsense?
Oil and gas exports account for more than 50% of Russia’s budget revenue. Putin MUST keep oil/gas exports flowing. If oil/gas exports drop or oil prices drop just to $80, Russian government budget will lose its lifeline, and there won’t be enough money to fund all state programs.
If oil prices drop to $50-60, many Russians will not get their government checks, and whatever you see happening in Kiev today will happen in Moscow.
Then pro-Kremlin Tyler Durden from Zero Hedge, the flock of Putin's sheep, RIA Novosti (propaganda arm of ex-KGB/FSB), and Zhirinovsky (Eidelstein) nuts will start blaming McCain and CIA for riots in Moscow.
"Russian banks will lose $30 billion and ignite financial crisis in Russia if/when Ukraine defaults." - Is that you Hank "tanks in the streets" Paulson?
What part of all fiat is going to ZERO, don't you understand?
Hey Cult....youre a good guy but man this rant on Russia and Putin is just way too much...i mean if youre an American, focus on the problems with your own leader (or lack there of) in Obummer.
Just leave it at that bro, its Russia's and Ukraine's problems....we let them work it out and see what transpires.
Cult definately has a hard on for Vlad
Dang, I had 36 hours over/under on the Ukrainian peace deal.
Standard & Poor’s cut Ukraine’s credit rating to CCC, eight levels below investment grade, saying the country risks default without “significantly favorable changes.” Ukraine, which is grappling with a record current-account deficit, has seen its foreign reserves plunge 28 percent in the past year to $17.8 billion at the end of January, the lowest level since 2006.
The country has $17 billion of liabilities coming due, excluding interest, through the end of 2015, including the $1 billion due in June this year, data compiled by Bloomberg show. The price on notes maturing in four months climbed to 95.63 cents on the dollar from 93.13 cents yesterday
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-21/ukraine-likely-to-default-credi...
Russia’s Sberbank Halts Ukraine Retail Lending Amid Crisis
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-21/russia-s-sberbank-halts-ukraine...
Will Ukraine's Protests Swallow Putin, Too?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-21/will-ukraine-s-protests-swallow...
Putin's influence in Ukraine diminishes
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-21/putin-options-dwindle-in-ukrain...
Why the obsession with fraudulent debt? Why not just tell everyone which bank you work for already?
Again, what part of all paper is going to ZERO don't you understand?
"A waste of gold and currency reserves". Is it significant he said gold first?
Ok...maybe I mistaken Cult of Reason for someone else...as some names are just so similar and I know he's been posting here for a long time and a lot lately. Anyhow, not sure if Cult is a good person or not but at least he/she is entitled to their own logic and opinion on issues like Russia/Ukraine atm but if Cult supports and befriends of Zionists, he gets no respect from me.
I don't follow Cult_of_Reason any more than I follow anyone else, so i'm not sure what bizzare private wars are going on here, but to all you that downvoted Cult_of_Reason's last couple of posts on Russia and Ukraine:
Fuck off, useless sycophants.
When did Zero Hedge turn into Putin's version of American Idol? How is he different than Obama or Merkel, exactly?
The threats to the U.S. Hot Pocket economy are not all internal. Yes, we're economically fuked up beyond all belief. So is Russia. So is China. The domino's are all arranged in a big circle. Why the hell does Cult_of_Reason's observations on one facet of that precarious situation rate all the venom? Someone posts information here to support their opinion and they get blasted for it?
Since more and more of the comments and commentators reek of nationalism, authoritarian worship, and a desire for a dictator.
It's what makes me lurk here less and less. Don't get me wrong, the EU ain't a great thing at all, but if it was a choice between mafia-controlled Russia and Russian sphere of influence, and the socialist hellhole of the EU, I'd rather live in that hell-hole.
when war moves from a "first option" to a "final solution" (let alone the last option as it should be) then something pretty bad than none of us down here in the cheap seats want is going down.
the question of course is "can it be stopped" or have events already been set in motion that simply "follow through on the sub-routine"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUlR5ph7CC8
Agreed, except Cunt of Treason is not a good guy.
He is a one note shill.
The fact that Cult_of_Reason flat out stated that he knew for a fact that the Nuland call was fake, then publicly refused to admit he was wrong or acknowledge the fact that he was talking out of his ass is enough for me to simply disregard everything he says.
When a man isn't man enough to admit that he was making up shit as he went, then I have no use for anything he has to say.
Speaking of lying fuckwads-
"Victoria Nuland, the American neoconservative Assistant Secretary of State, whose agenda is US world hegemony, told the Ukrainians what was in store for them last December 13, but the protesters were too delusional to hear.
In an eight minute, 46 second speech at the National Press Club sponsored by the US-Ukraine Foundation, Chevron, and Ukraine-in-Washington Lobby Group, Nuland boasted that Washington has spent $5 billion to foment agitation to bring Ukraine into the EU. Once captured by the EU, Ukraine will be “helped” by the West acting through the IMF. Nuland, of course, presented the IMF as Ukraine’s rescuer, not as the iron hand of the West that will squeeze all life out of Ukraine’s struggling economy.
Nuland’s audience consisted of all the people who will be enriched by the looting and by connections to a Washington-appointed Ukrainian government. Just look at the large Chevron sign next to which Nuland speaks, and you will know what it is all about."
Long White Stream, bitches!
Note that she says it was her third trip to Ukraine in less than 5 weeks.
Video of the actual speech- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y0y-JUsPTU#t=447
Paul Craig Roberts article on it- http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/02/20/
No "she/he" is a Zionist shill, that hates seeing the $5 billion "investment" for (freedom and democracy) in this Country finally reaching the end of it's "utility" and breaking down permanently.
How do you make a Zionist Jew/whore moan? Don't pay 'em
How do you effectively "kill" a wealthy Zionist Jew? Make them poor beyond their wildest imagination with the money they keep losing on the poor investment choices they keep making!
'Murican Nationalism. That's okay.
Russian Nationalism. That's okay.
European Nationalism. That's okay.
Jewish Nationalism. OH MY GOD WHERE ARE THE GAS CHAMBERS!?!?!?!
Jewish nationalism???
You mean Khazar nationalism...Jewish is a religion.
That's the best part about money. When you've had it all and then lose it all you don't need "Gas Chambers"...
If the World War they start doesn't kill them all, the poverty certainly will!
Hey Cult, If my Aunt had balls, she would be my Uncle.
How do you know your aunt doesn't have balls?
Are you and Cunt of Treason a team?
Why do you ask cum guzzler? you looking for a cock to suck....
They might be the same trollish person.
Well, If you ask my Uncle he would say her's are bigger than his, however I still call her Auntie.
Any other questions ?
You should send her over to Russia where homo's are welcomed...
You been eat'n HotPockets?.....You might have MAD Cow Disease.
El Tuco, you should step out of the thread, adults are trying to chat.
Please, I'm the only one here that can liven up the party. All you cocksuckers have become boring driveling the same Vlad will save us shit for the last year. Poor motherfuckers, 98 % of you have never stepped inside of Russia or Ukraine and you talk like you have the solution.
Go fuck yourself...ehh
Putin can always sell it to China
Is u mad, comrad?
Yeah, you think a few of them being Eastern European would have some sense when it comes to Russian Imperialism and Putin the criminal.
Fuck I remember in 78 during my travels when they dragged a whole family of Bulgarians off the train at the Ukrainian border and beat them like dogs in front of everyone watching. Even the kid took a back hand across the teeth. Those Russian guards were having a good time.
At the end of the day all the Tylers want is advertising dollars. They make money off the B.S. They could give a shit about what is right and wrong.
Cult of Douche
Russian population is 156 million against a land mass of 6.6 MILION SQ MILES........mostly undeveloped resources that are highly coveted - i might add- their debt is a rounding error against that proven and probable asset base
their citizens are better educated, substantially higher IQ's and analytically non reactive when compared to any and all states south of the mason dixon line and most everywhere in the USA and with the exception of NY, Mass. and California - can out produce technology any day of the week
Putin vs Obama et al = Bush / Romney / Regan / Clinton - are never going to be at the same level
For Fuck sakes you haven't been to Russia lately have you? 80 % of the country doesn't have indoor plumbing. Educated? Yeah sure some of them that can afford it but not nearly as many as in North America or Europe. Your speaking out of your ass...Moscow is not Russia....leave the city and you won't belive your fucking eyes....
Stop spamming with nonsence
Stop spamming with nonsence
Looks suspiciously like the Syrian playbook written and executed by the CIA.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/why-does-ukraine-seem-so-much-like-syria/
Of course the sociopath/psychopaths on both sides are playing "The Great Game" of global geopolitics. And that region has been of strategic significance for a very long time. The anglo-american bankster neo-con globalists on one side and Putin/the Russians on the other. Anyone who thinks any of them are choir boys is a fool.
But the neo-cons have been aggressively attacking/trying to destablize Russia since the fall of the USSR, (even before then). They are establishing alliances and bases to encircle them. Last time the Ruskies did anything that was even a faint glimmer of that was during the Cuban missile crisis back in 1962. That took the world to the brink of thermo-nucear WW3. The US leadership did not tolerate such an immediate strategic threat, and neither will the Russians.
So if Ukraine ends up breaking up into western and eastern halves, and the EU and eventually NATO moves into the west side. What do you think the Russians will do ? If anti strategic missile capability is put into western Ukraine, what do you think the Russians will do ?
There's a reason that in a recent world wide poll, the USA was voted as the greatest threat to peace in the world today.
Some people need to get a fukn' clue.
The Russians(USSR) only deployed nukes in Cuba ,as a direct response to the
USA deploying nukes in Turkey. It was only when JFK backed down on that
deployment, that the USSR called back its supply ships.Nothing else.
Not the version taught in American schools I know , but it shows how far the Russians
are/were willing to risk to avoid exactly what the US is trying again.
"Is this the game when the person with the most gold wins?"
Now in Ukraine there will be freedom!
And the first freedom in Ukraine - will be freedom from all their gold reserves!
Get a clue.
I like Toolshed's avatar and punchlines better than Cult_Of_Reason's.
Sorry for that digression, but you know how it is with Kirk and babes.
We know you had sex with that green bitch.
F yeah! I think you're just as jealous as I am.
And bring back the tits. When Pladizow jumps back over, I'll know that happy days are here again!.
Fuck American Imperialism!
Fuck EU imperialism!
No comment on the Russian Imperialism? Putin isn't dicking around in the Ukraine out of altruism.
Can we just say fuck imperialism? Or is there a brand of imperialism you are ok with? China? Russia? Saudi?
I am with you Cult. One does not forget. Being occupied by CCCP for 20 years that is. Hatred of Russia runs very deep in Central and Eastern Europe.
"Hatred of Russia runs very deep in Central and Eastern Europe".
Hatred of USA runs very deep in all the World.
EU and the oligarchs have what they want now, the thugs on the street can go home or enjoy their newfound rights as insurgent citizens of the EU.
Fuck American Imperialism!
Fuck WH Obamonism!
Fuck American Goverment Corruptionism!
Well now that the Russian hockey team is ousted...Putin wont be distracted in dealing with more important matters at hand.
Cant wait for the Sochi Olympics to end because the real fireworks will begin after the torch is extinguished.
so much for russian love
Vlad the Impaler <-------
Barry the Inhaler <------
Choose the form of The Destructor
Buuuuuurp!
How much of Ukraine's foreign aid has been frozen?
How will it be paid back? I'm sure that attached string has the Ukraine's national sovereignty on the other end.
Ukraine is the world's #4 MIC arms exporter...
(just to put a slightly different spin on how laughable the EU statement yesterday was about controlling arms imports)
Ukraine has nothing to worry about. Once the elected government is overthrown the IMF will step in and save the day. Their newly re-instated agent Yulia Tymoshenko, will oversee the implementation of the plan and all will be peachy for everyone...
except the Ukranians.
Over? Over you say? Nothing is over until we decide it is...
This is just another "chess" move. I am sure that we will know what for at some point soon.
Down goes Ukraine
"Down goes Ukraine"
It never went up so no big deal here... Look at the stuff you see on TV. These people look like characters from a Tchekov novel...
I can easily see why they wanna join the EU : this "marriage" will cost us European tax-payers, what? 50 bil Euros? And there's ONE tiny thing the Ukrainians will give as a wedding present : the Chernobyl clusterfuck. Thx but no thx, we have enough problems in Europe with the Romanian and Bulgarian dumps, sorry countries.
For my children and my current well-being I hope Putin will win!
Spoken like a true european.
Despite all the victimistic "us and them" everyone does, in the end every population on this planet has exactly the government it deserves. Nothing less, nothing more.
Not yet it isn't going down. Ukraine is in for a world of hurt, I can't believe that the tug-of-war participants have even broken a sweat here. There is egg on everyone's faces, and if you're the former head of the KGB you have certain ideas of how you want this to end. Even if Putin "loses" all of the participants in this little confrontation will understand the pain involved.
How emboldened would other former Soviet states feel if they see Ukraine break free with vitually no bloodshed. Putin will save face.
Interesting...since the aid was obviously going to the government, and not the opposition.
I wonder what Putin is trying to accomplish with this? Total destabilization, precipitating anarchy that will necessitate DIRECT Russian intervention?
Of course. Just like the USSA, they must have some "national security interests" at stake.
Same as it ever was...
"Total destabilization, precipitating anarchy that will necessitate DIRECT Russian intervention"
Could be... On Sunday evening Vlad closes the O. Games, on Monday morning he sends his tanks or his "Omon" elite units over Kiev?
The message to his puppet is to get back in the game. And if things get too shtty come get daady and he'll give you a hand.
Putin wants to be called into this.
Send in the Street Cleaners. And watch the Psy Ops Provocateurs & Hooligans dance: Gangman Style.
Russian Style......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSCkiuONdeY
cost analysis probably says its cheaper to withhold the funds and deploy the military if necessary
BTW, I love the "respect for legitimate government" line coming from Putin! HA!
No funnier than Obama lines.
Well, "they" won the last elections. Isn't it how the game is played ? Or maybe this goes only when the good guys (ours ?) win ?!
Regardless, Ukraineans had elections scheduled for the next year. Question is: was is really worth wrecking the whole country (which wasn't in great shape to start with...) just to move them one year earlier ?
Status quo will be restored now by all means since the EU's Princess Leia has been released.
The Russians don't want their money going to Brussels.
They remember the German Blitzkrieg, and realize that it is now Banks not Tanks.
+42. I love it when wit meets insight, and hits that ball out of the park.
"Legitimate Government"
I love oxymorons. Like calling my guillotine a "head support."
Pipelines run through Ukraine... just sayin'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druzhba_pipeline
Pay up or shut up! If Ukranians go all in, they'd shut off the pipes. Then Russia would have to invade and protect the oil infrastructure. At which time the EU and likely the US would come to defend Ukraine and we would have full blown WW3 on our hands
Yep, WW3 is this close to happening.
Nonsense.
It doesn't pay for anyone involved.
Wrong....better read..War is a Racket...Maj Gen Smedley D. Butler
Exception could be against Russian Lands as history shows some really big losers there.
And there lies the rub. A full scale conflict will rapidly escalate to a nuclear exchange. Like fuck they would risk that to save Ukraine.
Is not about "Ukraine" per se but about Russia's access to European oil/gas customers and Europe ensuring the spice keeps flowing.
Rock meet hard place for both Russia and Europe.
The U.S. goal in the Ukraine is simple and clear:
They want to put the Turkish troops (NATO) on the faucet of pipe with gas to Germany and all Europe.
This will give the U.S. an opportunity to firmly keep Germany and all of Europe by the throat.
After that, the U.S. may submit any big claims to Germany, as well any blackmail and fuck the whole of Europe, as they want.
I am very, very surprised that Mrs Merkel, does not understand this.
Of course she knows and understands this. Frau Merkel is a very intelligent woman who is constantly underestimated by her opponents.
I am very surprised that you are not aware that Merkel already cut a killer deal for Germany with the Nord Stream pipeline, which goes directly from Mother Russia to Deutschland.
The operational capacity (55 Billion square meters) more than covers Germany's needs. Best of all, there are no middlemen (like Ukraine for example) that can disrupt the spice flow every time the middleman wants to welsh on a deal and renegotiate.
It is pumping gas right now.
"Merkel already cut a killer deal for Germany with the Nord Stream pipeline, which goes directly from Mother Russia to Deutschland."
It is only your personal wordplay between Germany and Europe. Europe can not survive without gas that flows through pipelines in Ukraine. Everything else - it only empty words and attempt to justify Merkel, who already received check and mate from Washington, via gas pipeline on the Ukraine.
If Putin walked across the Sea of Azov to personally give away 5 billion in gold to the Ukrainian people, the New York Times (and artless shills such as Cunt of Treason) would spend a week telling us that Putin can't swim.
Oh Johnny cock in mouth...now who's throwing around the word cunt?
Russia will never abandon Crimea. If Ukraine moves closer to the West, Russia will use the predominantly Russian population in the Crimean region to intervene and possibly partition the country, just like they did in Georgia. In the end West will have an even bigger problem in their hands and will look even more silly and impotent.
Russia needs to keep its money now.
Polish in Ukr west don't appreciate nothing...violence is the wit of a fool.
Real Ukrainians are losers here...
Spend it on massive upgrade of Trans-Siberian Railway..and expand hard push develop Siberia to Far East
Volkadav! You should be out whoring your mother...You and Shasha can take turns collecting the Kopek she's worth.
and never forget...your the real loser here. Now go pray to Vlad your God ..you Judas...
Kurva tvoia mama
You don't suppose your constant use of abusive language against everyone else around here is becoming a bit too much to bare, do you?
Believe it or not I have a lot of respect for the few folks here that deserve it. You'll never see me post anything against someone who doesn't have an agenda. When I see an agenda especially one like these shills have who show up conveniently when they can propagate their nonsense (pro Kremlin/pro Putin), I can't help myself.
Still the question remains and has not been answered and these shills can't answer it without acknowledging the truth. Where did Putin get his 80 billion? He was a low level KGB agent.
I'll tell you...he stole it from the Russian people. Over 200k of them protested his usurping of Russia and they were put down like dogs in the street. This is what these shills like Shasha and Volk support. They would sell their own people for a few pieces of silver.
By the way....I thought it was the fight club.
useless talkings
Putin's been to the track before this.
He wants to see the horse pointed in the right direction before he bets.
Putin will just let them play around for a while and then just move in, do his own thing and tell them to fuck off. It is his established way of resolving these issues.
The situation isn't any better now that truce has been signed. The witch hunt has begun, there is a power vacuum now, almost all of the police left the city, which is now being patroled by self-organized civilian crowds, who have no authority to do so, and worse, have no formal training in police matters. Like Cheka in 1917. The best thing now would be if some form of government could be formed fast. Actually, a curfew, enacted by the parlament, and enforced by the army, would be the best thing for next few days. No gathering from 21:00 to 6:30.
Uh, "financial aid?" In what, rubles?
Anyway the only "legitimate government" is no fucking government at all.
I have a novel idea, we take ALL government officials and hang,guillotine,drag through the streets every last one of them...
The mistake people make is that they NEED to be governed....
Majority of people cannot think for themselves. Sad but true at least for Europe and North America and 100% for the vast majority of Asians.
If you feel that you can stand on your own two feet and you can think for yourself, consider yourself lucky, very lucky.
What's the outlook on Ukranian bride export business in the U.A.E ? Puts? Margin Calls? Over under? All that economics all you MBA's learned in the marxist indoctrination centers. Ya all that shit. Marxist scum.
The sum total and all it's "parts". Don't you love the fact that Chevron in the embedded video doesn't even attempt to conceal it's hand in the death and destruction they paid for?
http://www.hangthebankers.com/us-spent-5-billion-to-destabilize-ukraine/
Fuck you, you down voting GOV shill.....
AND FUCK ALL GOVERNMENTS!!!!
Hey Vlad, suck a Fart outta my arse!!
Lots of goobermint worshippers on this site today
Interesting discussion.
I had to go to work, but I figured it out in the intirim:
Putin wants the Ukrainian president to resign. I don't know why, exactly but I would assume there is some question in Putin's mind about whether Yanukovych will resign willingly even if his support is pulled. That's why Putin had to make this announcement publicly instead of just picking up the phone.
Ukraine's economy will collapse without Russian support, most likely. Yanukovych knows this, and knows that without money to pay security forces, he's doomed. Putin is publicly telling him to get out.
I expect Yanukovych's resignation within 48 hours.