Russia Prepared To Fight War Over Ukraine, Senior Government Official Admits

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"If Ukraine breaks apart, it will trigger a war," warns a senior Russian government official. The FT reports Russia is prepared to fight a war over the Ukrainian territory of Crimea (where the largest ethnic Russian population lives and they have a military base). Conjuring images of the 2008 Russian invasion of Georgia, the official told the FT, "they will lose Crimea first [because] we will go in and protect [it], just as we did in Georgia." The Kremlin regards the Georgian conflict as the biggest stand-off between Russia and the west since the end of the Cold War and it has fed determination in Moscow to push back against what it believes to be western attempts to contain Russia.

 

 

Via The FT,

If Ukraine breaks apart, it will trigger a war,” the official said. “They will lose Crimea first [because] we will go in and protect [it], just as we did in Georgia.” In August 2008, Russian troops invaded Georgia after the Georgian military launched a surprise attack on the separatist region of South Ossetia in an effort to establish its dominance over the republic.

 

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The brief conflict with Georgia pitted Russia indirectly against the US and Nato, which had earlier tried to put Georgia on a path to Nato membership. The Kremlin regards the Georgian conflict as the biggest stand-off between Russia and the west since the end of the Cold War and it has fed determination in Moscow to push back against what it believes to be western attempts to contain Russia.

 

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The warning of a similar scenario comes because Ukraine’s civil conflict has fanned tension in Crimea. On the peninsula, located on the northern coast of the Black Sea where Russia’s Black Sea Fleet is stationed, ethnic Russians make up almost 60 per cent of the population, with Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars accounting for the rest.

 

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Volodymyr Konstantinov, speaker of Crimea’s parliament, said on Thursday that the region might try to secede from Ukraine if the country split. “It is possible, if the country breaks apart,” he told the Russian news agency Interfax. “And everything is moving towards that.” Russian media also quoted him as saying Crimeans might turn to Russia for protection.

 

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The Kremlin has been eager to stress that it is not interfering in Ukraine. ...

 

However, many government officials say in private that Ukraine falls inside Russia’s sphere of influence. “We will not allow Europe and the US to take Ukraine from us. The states of the former Soviet Union, we are one family,” said a foreign policy official. “They think Russia is still as weak as in the early 1990s but we are not.”

So while some suggest the "agreement" today is great news, we suspect it solves absolutely nothing as the corruption at the core remains and the push-pull of East-West tensions remains as the only thing that matters - it sadly appears - is who controls the pipelines.

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Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:10 | 4461509 LawsofPhysics
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Coming soon to a western "Union" near you...

 

same as it ever was...

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:14 | 4461524 TeamDepends
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It's always about that damned spice, and making it flow...

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:21 | 4461564 RSloane
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I'm getting Ukrained out here. I'll just read what the rest of you have to say.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:25 | 4461574 Cult_of_Reason
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And Russian oligarchs that control Putin (after witnessing what sanctions did to Ukrainian oligarchs) said Russia cannot afford to "fight over Ukraine."

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:28 | 4461616 magpie
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Yes, they are Poland's and Germany's problem now. Enjoy.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:29 | 4461624 johnQpublic
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but are they drawing a red line?

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:33 | 4461644 magpie
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Well, they still pretend to believe in peace. 

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 11:33 | 4461873 Kirk2NCC1701
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"Cult_of_Reason", anyone ever point out the irony of your name?

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 22:41 | 4464091 matrix2012
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There's no irony... "Cunt_of_Reason" is just collecting down arrows at ZH, (s)he loves Red color (assuming it's human not the agency's robo)

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:25 | 4461575 Cult_of_Reason
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And Russian oligarchs that control Putin (after witnessing what sanctions did to Ukrainian oligarchs) said Russia cannot afford to "fight over Ukraine."

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 11:23 | 4461834 max2205
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And so now we know why the govt agencies have bought those 4 billion bullets...got it

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 11:33 | 4461884 Truthseeker2
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Russia knows exactly what us at stake!

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http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=3733

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"What Walesa is really trying to say is that the EU stands to make that much money by controlling the Ukraine markets, natural resources, export/import channels, transportation network, oil and gas conduits, and political apparatus once they join the European Union. These are, after all, the immediate and stated goals of the EU representatives who have weighed in on the matter. And they are determined not to let Russia interfere with their plans, no matter what the level of chaos or death toll required to attain it."


Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:26 | 4461603 kito
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rsloane, dont worry about the static. you need to wait for the real authorities, faber, black and snyder, to give us real guidance on ukraine

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:55 | 4461740 RSloane
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Fonz posted this earlier in another Ukraine thread. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-19/franklin-templeton-lifts-ukraine-bet-by-over-250-million.html

There's a lot of foreign capital sitting in Kiev right now. Debt will be serviced one way or another.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 11:42 | 4461919 LMAOLORI
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"I'm getting Ukrained out here. I'll just read what the rest of you have to say."


Ok we can talk about something else how about this?

 

Obama may escalate role in Syrian war

peace prize roflmao

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 14:10 | 4465448 Dave
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Was there ever some doubt?

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:22 | 4461576 kliguy38
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wait til the olympics are over and Vlad will whack the neocon/bankers with a quick backhand slap and say..... "now what are ya gonna do BITCHEZZ"

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:25 | 4461598 pods
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Gonna warp the barrel firing that fast!

pods

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:27 | 4461604 Dr. Engali
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WTF? Once is enough.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:32 | 4461640 kliguy38
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no chit

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:38 | 4461667 El Tuco
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Yeah, they couldn't take 4000 chechens and then they invaded Giorgia and fought a bunch of farmers. Anyone who thinks Russia has a 1st world army is retarded. It's all conscripts that don't want to be there.

America wouldn't even break a sweat taking Russia on....not that I would want this because it would just bring more suffuring to the Russian people over the fucktard Putin.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:53 | 4461732 Bastiat
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Apparently Russian missles work as we really on them to get to the ISS.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 11:01 | 4461758 Son of Captain Nemo
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I know Tucus

It's pictures like this of our armed forces along with the torture pictures from Abu Ghraib that demands the respect from the rest of the World!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2562482/We-fun-funeral-Soldier-suspended-picture-Honor-Guard-fooling-flag-draped-coffin-online-derogatory-comments.html
Fri, 02/21/2014 - 12:45 | 4462164 IReallyDontCare
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Yea clearly you didn't get the memo about Afganistan,or perhaps you actually believe your mighty army has brought peace and security to the Afgan people.

There is little point in winning the war if you can't win the peace.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 15:05 | 4462698 Pure Evil
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Sadly its all about logistics and whose troops and mechanized divisions are already lined up to provide support to the suffering Ukrainians.

I guess NATO currently has enough divisions lined up in Poland to invade, ahem, liberate Ukraine and provide that much needed military support.

To the swift goes the race.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 14:19 | 4465497 Dave
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You don't know squat about the anybody's military. Look how well we did in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq. So shut up about it.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 11:08 | 4461777 mickeyman
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Are the Saudis involved here too?

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:16 | 4466547 indygo55
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"Are the Saudis involved here too?"

 

They're busy right now in Sochi.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:22 | 4461577 kliguy38
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wait til the olympics are over and Vlad will whack the neocon/bankers with a quick backhand slap and say..... "now what are ya gonna do BITCHEZZ"

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:22 | 4461578 kliguy38
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wait til the olympics are over and Vlad will whack the neocon/bankers with a quick backhand slap and say..... "now what are ya gonna do BITCHEZZ"

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:22 | 4461580 kliguy38
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wait til the olympics are over and Vlad will whack the neocon/bankers with a quick backhand slap and say..... "now what are ya gonna do BITCHEZZ"

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:22 | 4461581 kliguy38
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wait til the olympics are over and Vlad will whack the neocon/bankers with a quick backhand slap and say..... "now what are ya gonna do BITCHEZZ"

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:23 | 4461582 kliguy38
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wait til the olympics are over and Vlad will whack the neocon/bankers with a quick backhand slap and say..... "now what are ya gonna do BITCHEZZ"

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:23 | 4461583 kliguy38
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wait til the olympics are over and Vlad will whack the neocon/bankers with a quick backhand slap and say..... "now what are ya gonna do BITCHEZZ"

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:23 | 4461584 kliguy38
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wait til the olympics are over and Vlad will whack the neocon/bankers with a quick backhand slap and say..... "now what are ya gonna do BITCHEZZ"

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:23 | 4461585 kliguy38
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wait til the olympics are over and Vlad will whack the neocon/bankers with a quick backhand slap and say..... "now what are ya gonna do BITCHEZZ"

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:23 | 4461586 kliguy38
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wait til the olympics are over and Vlad will whack the neocon/bankers with a quick backhand slap and say..... "now what are ya gonna do BITCHEZZ"

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:23 | 4461587 kliguy38
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wait til the olympics are over and Vlad will whack the neocon/bankers with a quick backhand slap and say..... "now what are ya gonna do BITCHEZZ"

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:25 | 4461597 mayhem_korner
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Something sticky on your keyboard?

(oh...)

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:48 | 4461713 Divided States ...
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Hey kliguy....u watching porn while surfing on ZH??? effin multiple pop-ups.....

btw, u work for the SEC??

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 11:27 | 4461852 zerozulu
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Most probably a Ukrainian talent.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubTlTKLas_o

 

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 12:09 | 4462021 DeathProof
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We should really be lobbying the IOC to bring pole to the summer games.

I'd have to PVR the womens beach volleyball.

 

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 11:37 | 4461905 BLOTTO
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I think the record is skipping...

 

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:29 | 4461623 layman_please
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that's what happens when HF algo tries to comment

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:23 | 4461591 kliguy38
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wait til the olympics are over and Vlad will whack the neocon/bankers with a quick backhand slap and say..... "now what are ya gonna do BITCHEZZ"

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:25 | 4461594 TeamDepends
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Whoa, dude!

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:25 | 4461595 Theta_Burn
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Where you trying to say something?

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:29 | 4461614 fonzannoon
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That's a record 

I gave him a greenie on the 7th one. That one stood out to me.

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:31 | 4461638 kliguy38
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wow....that's one on me dude......look what happens when they try to block a determined comment.....shot right through that NSA prick

Fri, 02/21/2014 - 10:39 | 4461677 fonzannoon
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It happens. If you combine all them they are no longer than your average threadjack. Everyone gets one.

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