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The Eastern Ukrainians Are Revolting

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It is hardly surprising, given the drastically divided nation, that when Vitali Klitschko's pro-European political party ventured to Kerch - a city of the eastern edge of Ukraine in the Crimea region - things did not go entirely according to plan... This is the region that Russia has stated it is willing to go to war over and is deep in the pro-Russia territory... headlines galore are coming out of Ukraine but all that matters now is the Russian response...


Especially after Tymoshenko's earlier comments:




A EuroMaidan meeting does not go quite as planned in the east/west of Ukraine...


As is clear from this map - the nation is desparately divided (Kerch is on the eastern corner of the Crimea peninsula at the bottom on the map)...


As Russia warned before...

"If Ukraine breaks apart, it will trigger a war,” the official said. “They will lose Crimea first [because] we will go in and protect [it], just as we did in Georgia.” In August 2008, Russian troops invaded Georgia after the Georgian military launched a surprise attack on the separatist region of South Ossetia in an effort to establish its dominance over the republic.




The brief conflict with Georgia pitted Russia indirectly against the US and Nato, which had earlier tried to put Georgia on a path to Nato membership. The Kremlin regards the Georgian conflict as the biggest stand-off between Russia and the west since the end of the Cold War and it has fed determination in Moscow to push back against what it believes to be western attempts to contain Russia.




The warning of a similar scenario comes because Ukraine’s civil conflict has fanned tension in Crimea. On the peninsula, located on the northern coast of the Black Sea where Russia’s Black Sea Fleet is stationed, ethnic Russians make up almost 60 per cent of the population, with Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars accounting for the rest.




Volodymyr Konstantinov, speaker of Crimea’s parliament, said on Thursday that the region might try to secede from Ukraine if the country split. “It is possible, if the country breaks apart,” he told the Russian news agency Interfax. “And everything is moving towards that.” Russian media also quoted him as saying Crimeans might turn to Russia for protection.

Some humor might help...


But it's pretty clear who they blame...


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Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:36 | 4466453 Lin S
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Jugoslavija 2.0 only this time, the West gets fucked. 

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:39 | 4466459 DoChenRollingBearing
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If Russia steps in hard, Russia will get what it wants.

The USA should sit this one out.  Not our business.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:43 | 4466467 goldhedge
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Timing is everything.  The Olympics now ending.



Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:50 | 4466478 Cult_of_Reason
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What a pathetic Zero Hedge (Russian propagandist) attempt!

Hey "Tyler Durden," you should get more Kremlin training as your colleague propagandist "Stefana Karinskaya."

Kremlin is really desperate.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:50 | 4466483 magpie
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Let's see if there are any state institutions left outside of Kiev at the end of the week.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:59 | 4466506 Cult_of_Reason
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I agree it is funny.

“Tyler Durden” is as desperate as "Stefana Karinskaya."

I wonder how much Kremlin has paid to these pathetic Kremlin propagandists: “Tyler Durden,” "Stefana Karinskaya," Martin Armstrong, etc.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:05 | 4466517 johngaltfla
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The Post-Olympic Hint as to what is next in the Ukraine


Boom stick is now officially being loaded up for use.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:21 | 4466560 Cult_of_Reason
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The scariest word for Putin: #EuroRedSquare

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:35 | 4466612 semperfidelis
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Was the war in Georgia right before the financial crisis in 08? Interesting coincidence.
Ukraine is a soverign nation, if Russia invades it is an act of war. Not possible. Civil war in Ukraine goes against Russian interest, would destabilize Russia itself. Shutting down the gas is rather usless, spring is coming, Gazprom needs the revenue. Russia is between a rock and a hard place here, no easy exit. War in the Ukraine, or a invasion of a 44 million people nation is not a option for Russia.
State Dep. holds upper hand in all possible scenarios on Ukraine.
Best option for Russia is to open new front, maybe in Moldova.
Time will tell.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:46 | 4466627 Cult_of_Reason
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You hit the nail on the head.


Picture of the Day

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 23:12 | 4467013 Paveway IV
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I guess it's time to throw in the towel, Cult_of_Reason. You have been completely destroyed by weekend-Tyler. Russia is getting ready to invade...

Oh, wait... this just in:

Halyna Hryn translates Donetskie novosti. 


President of Ukraine Yanukovych at this point has not left the territory of Ukraine

At the present moment the head of state is outside of Kharkiv at the country home of one of the influential local officials. Donetskie vesti received this information from a reliable source.

According to the source, the president’s flight to the United Arab Emirates last night was a ruse to divert attention from the fact that Yanukovych travelled to Kharkiv to take part in the congress national and local deputies.

The original plan envisioned Victor Yanukovych’s appearance at the congress, the announcement of a new southeastern Ukrainian republic, and its separation from Ukraine. The guarantor of the security of the republic was to be Russian president Vladimir Putin, who was to officially support the new government and introduce a limited military contingent to protect the republic.

However, contrary to expectations, Vladimir Putin declined, in no uncertain terms, not only to provide military support but also to recognize the new state. After that demarche the enthusiasts of that project abandoned it and decided to declare their commitment to the integrity of Ukraine’s territorial boundaries. Yanukovych decided not to attend the congress.

At present the acting president’s team is looking for ways to leave the country. Thus far their main problem is the refusal of several states to grant they asylym.


Never mind...

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:16 | 4467075 Cult_of_Reason
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"Tyler Durden" posted a video of maybe 30 to 50 paid thugs (in Ukraine they call them "titushki") burning an American flag in Kerch, and he/she has generated a misleading headline "The Eastern Ukrainians Are Revolting."

(Kerch population is only 148K. Crimea population is ~2 million. Ukraine population is 46 million.)

Do you really think I "have been completely destroyed" by this act of desperation or you're as desperate as this pathetic pro-Kremlin propagandist "Tyler Durden?"

Here is the video from Kharkiv (Eastern Ukraine) of at least 2-3 thousand people yelling "Revolution" and "Down with the criminal (Yanukovich)." This is what you call revolting, not 30-50 paid thugs burning an American flag.

P.S. Info about Titushky (or Titushki -- criminal groups of Yanukovich goverment)

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:24 | 4467215 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Neocon sockpuppetry has totally ruined any attempt to think. The obsession of neocon shills to turn tables so they are always shown in the good lights makes it impossible for them to admit facts and leads to disastrous thought processes.

This guy is simply trying to pull the covers over to himself. He is right, the others are wrong and he'll show why, cherrypicking data to support his propaganda.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:44 | 4467242 Cult_of_Reason
Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:45 | 4467246 TheFourthStooge-ing
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It's funny, you sound so much like a whiny, butthurt pansy.

Made me laugh.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:49 | 4467251 Cult_of_Reason
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And you sound like Kremlin Bot "Stefana Karinskaya."

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 02:10 | 4467272 ThirdWorldDude
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Cunt_Of_Treason, you might want to try your luck on yahoo messageboards, it's pretty obvious fight club is a pretty tough environment for your Zio-trolling.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 02:55 | 4467301 Cult_of_Reason
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A new Ukraine is the Kremlin's worst nightmare

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 04:00 | 4467350 Rock On Roger
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Go Home.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 04:10 | 4467357 Cult_of_Reason
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Russians Must Stop Believing 3 ‘Stupid’ Myths

Efforts like those Moscow tried in 1994-95 collapsed in Crimea despite the presence of pro-Russian politicians. They will collapse again.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 04:28 | 4467372 Rock On Roger
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For fuck sakes. There is no them or us. We're all fucking human. Your shit smells as bad as mine.

Give your head a shake and wake up.


Stack On

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 03:23 | 4467314 Johnny Cocknballs
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apart from just blatant lying, and crying "they hit us {back} again", it has become a hallmark of hasbara trolls everywhere to accuse others of precisely what they are doing.

The Israelification of the US government has led it down the same Orwellian path - accusing others of supporting terror and breaking the law while funding and arming terrorists and violating treaties such as the NPT to placate the wealthy Israel Firster lobby groups, which have multiplied like flies since Bush.


Sun, 02/23/2014 - 03:51 | 4467342 Rock On Roger
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It's all about gold and gods and things like that.


At least that is what I told my daughter as I tucked her in for the night. She was curious why her pen-pal's brother had to serve in the militia for at least two years. He is very HOT and she has his photo on the wall, along with a sticker that is a red shield with a white cross.

Sonofagun, sixteen year old ladies ask the toughest questions....


Stack On

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 09:26 | 4467554 Agstacker
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And my dad could beat up your dad.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 13:25 | 4467951 Tradehard
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Paveway you are fricken clueless. You are either a Kremlin bitch or an ignorant American on welfare who is pissed at the west for whatever reason. Russia is in no shape to go to war. Russia is a paper tiger. It's amazing how the west falls for Russian propaganda so easily. If you had the experience of the former Soviet victims, you would know it's all bullshit. Russia is rotten and has always been rotten to the core.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:49 | 4466649 Uncle Remus
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."Civil war in Ukraine goes against Russian interest, would destabilize Russia itself"

WTF are you talking about?

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:59 | 4466671 semperfidelis
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Without saying fuck 10 times In one sentence try to think, in case of war millions become displaced, move to Russia as refuges. Also it becomes a war between slavic people, very ugly, unthinkable for Russia.
I say they open a new front, Moldova has the keg to be a good candidate, good ethnic mix, separatist republics, between Ukraine and the EU.
NOT THAT I WUSH FOR WAR IN MOLDOVA, I am just saying it looks logical if you look at the map.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 21:07 | 4466698 negative rates
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Eat drink and be merry, kegs all around.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 21:47 | 4466799 Anusocracy
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I have a solution for this.

Putin issues a statement declaring that all Russian nuclear missiles will targeted and ready to launch if there are further instabilities on their border and that foreign interference in Ukraine must end immediately.

That is targeting the US specifically - the cause of this shit.

If the US goal is destroy Russia one way or another, Russia should make it a clear goal to destroy the US.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 23:48 | 4467073 Omegaman2211
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We're all dumber now...

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:49 | 4467250 Flakmeister
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You ain't see nothing....

Ask him how the climate works...

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 03:17 | 4467311 ThirdWorldDude
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Don't you dare bring Al Gore into this! 

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 13:39 | 4467997 Balanced Integer
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As if you have any idea how climate works.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 14:07 | 4468065 Flakmeister
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You first...

My credentials on the subject are already well established here...

For example: here or here or here

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 18:39 | 4468866 Andre
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Even worse...

ask you.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 09:24 | 4467551 Uncle Remus
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If history is any indication, the killing of millions of people is a viable option in Russia.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 14:08 | 4468091 Flakmeister
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Sat, 02/22/2014 - 22:06 | 4466783 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Ukraine is a soverign nation, if Russia invades it is an act of war. Not possible.

Yes it possible if it is a coup and Russian intervention is legal at the same time and based upon prior agreements if legality still is honored the US and UK must ensure the original government is reinstated... Most likely scenario this route is Russia jawbones, threatens or actually sends in the tanks, if tanks sent in EU/NATO counters with tanks and if neither side wants a hot war it kicks up to the UN and the monitors are sent in to ensure the process until elections are held. Bad outcome for EU/NATO because it becomes harder to backdoor control the results, Russia has the advantage fixing the politicians and elections in an undivided Ukraine.


Civil war in Ukraine goes against Russian interest, would destabilize Russia itself.

Agree on not in Russian interest but disagree on destabilizing. If Russia gets backed into a corner the nukes come out that is whole different ballgame and level of destablization for all parties. More likely is proxy war if the pro EU side starts to lose Moldova is sucked in as far as troops and tanks goes since it is neither in the EU or NATO and wants to become a 'made' member of both organizations. Russia on the other hand doesn't really have a proxy though it can open up a secondary proxy front on Moldova through Transnistria.



Shutting down the gas is rather usless, spring is coming, Gazprom needs the revenue.

No it doesn't, all gas flowing through the Ukraine can be diverted around the Ukraine except for the ones that transit through the city of Izmail in the Odessa Oblast. Slovakia and Hungary take the brunt of the diversion but the gas still flows to Western Europe. Here is a good overview to see why on a map.

It all comes back to the Nabucco and why the Crimea the Russians will fight for besides the naval base there for the Russian Black Sea fleet. The Odessa Oblast is also important but not crucial for the gas and why if it does split and Russia keeps the Crimea Moldova is probably up next in the Nabucco game. Moldova isn't in the EU or NATO and they have skin in the game concerning the Odessa Oblast.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 23:32 | 4466971 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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My personal feeling is only thing that keeps this from turning into a full out civil war is the issue of where is Waldo aka Yanukovych. I think that question gets answered as soon as the Olympics end. If he shows up suicided err dead with clear evidence to blame one of the predominately pro EU anti Yanukoych government groups it is good bet the other side did it because sometimes an assasination is an assassination and sometimes it is a coup attempt... I can't help but get the feeling that Ukrainian mob is holding Yanukovych since he 'disappeared' and the negotiations are on right now for his head dead or alive to the highest bidder.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 09:35 | 4467561 new game
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why is there no uprisisng here? we are being fucked over by the same type of psycopaths and oligarchs> maybe vasoline helps(fiat checks for 50 percent). ah, follow the lead of S Arabia and send moar to the plebs. keep them pacified.  wake up you dumb fucks > give the plebs some moar crumbs...

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 18:47 | 4468878 Andre
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If Russia invades and people get upset, Russia points to Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo, Libya, Mali, and the tapes of Nuland supportng the destabilzation of the elected Ukrainian government..

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 22:05 | 4466844 acetinker
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No, shit-for-brains.  Russia cozies up to China.  They use the sea lanes instead of the pipelines.  All the while, starving the pipelines which feed northern europe.  Ukraine is a chokepoint, but only for northern europe.

It's a game, semperfidelis.  Learn it.

I didn't down vote you, though.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 22:42 | 4469564 acetinker
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It's cool.  You just wanna give me red arrows?  Europe goes after western Ukraine- they lose those gas lines.  Not that the politicians care, except for their hides.

Putin may in fact, be evil, but he has amply demonstrated that he is not stupid.

It's a Mexican standoff, assuming all sides have some amount of intelligence.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 22:12 | 4466865 FredFlintstone
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Invading a sovereign nation has been done by the so-called super powers for decades with impunity. "Not possible"?

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 13:29 | 4467964 Tradehard
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Yeah well there's a ''small'' difference between U.S.invading a sandmonkey shithole vs Russia (also a shithole) invading Ukraine!

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 22:28 | 4469507 acetinker
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1) Russia ain't no shithole.

2) The 'sandmonkeys' are people, too.

3) You are an idiot, of the highest order.

This is the most obvious conclusion, using Occam's Razor.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 00:41 | 4467161 yatikto
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No one REALLY wants Ukraine.  Not EU, nor Russia.  EU does not need another welfare state and was never entusiastic, hence F EU by Nuland.  Russia was willing to pay more to keep its influence, and won that diplomatic round. In fact Russia or EU would prefer status quo.

US on the other hand would love to disrupt the transit of gas, to make their exports more attractive.  But that's one of the benefits, another one is a source of instability that weakens everyone around and keeps US as the cleanest shirt in the laundry basket.

It should be apparent to everyone that US doesn't have any soft power left, but more and more relies on covert and overt operations to create instability, thereby maintain its supremacy. 

Best option for Russia is take what they can quickly and let the West own the rest and hold them accountable for that area.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 00:55 | 4467183 Johnny Cocknballs
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Gazprom needs the revenue.


Europe needs the gas.

Moldova?  WTF are you smoking over there?

Russia is not going to "invade" - at best, if/when the country fractures, it will treat the Crimea as a protectorate - at their invitation.

If they think that NATO is making a play for Crimea and/or the Black Sea Fleet, not only will they go hot, they will ready nukes.

Are you aware that during Georgia's ill-conceive attack on South Ossetia, the defense minister was a Jew who had returned from years of living in Israel.   Not a lot of Jews in Georgia, so it's curious.

Where the US State department is meddling, so are the Israelis, largely because State has so many dually loyal sayanim Jews in it, and largely because Israel loves to sow chaos.  All part of the plan. 



Sun, 02/23/2014 - 16:05 | 4468436 Rafferty
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The defense minister wasn't the only Jew in government.  A friend who worked for an NGO there at the time said that whenever she met somone of importance there was an Israeli dual citizen handler present.  She was blown away by this at the time.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 16:43 | 4468537 Flakmeister
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Ah Johnny, the heir apparent to Francis Sawyer...

And we all know what happened to his ass....

Johnny's gonna let that hate slip out for all to see once too often and, poof, he'll vanish like a fart in the wind....


The West is going to let Putin stew in his own mess, they don't really care about the Black Sea fleet. All you chess players out there, remind us what the end game for Putin will be given the pieces he has to play? I suggest you read Sun Tzu first though...

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 02:25 | 4467280 Freddie
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Stop posting bullshit.   Russia or Gazprom has pipeline to Europe that go through the Balkans to Austria and Northern Italy.   They also have a pipeline through Black Sea into southern Italy.  I think they also have a northern pipeline going into Scandinavia. The nat gas will flow.  They would be fools to put all their eggs or pipelines through the Ukraine.

My guess is Putin told Merkel to back off and this is why the scum in the US State Dept said F the EU. 

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 10:05 | 4467571 HardAssets
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It depends on the true overall sentiment of the population in eastern Ukraine.

If those people indeed identify as ethnic Russian, there could ultimately be some kind of plebiscite and a split up of the country.

And, if that happens - the next question will be in regard to what the neo-cons do in the western half to pose a further economic & military threat to Russia. 

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 14:03 | 4468074 Urban Redneck
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Faulty Premise - Act of War (While the Joker is in play).

And Gazprom doesn't isn't going to die without revenues from transiting Ukraine for several weeks (since Mario & Janet WILL cut a check to cover their losses in such an event)

And just for yuks-

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:05 | 4466519 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Cult_of_Treason said:

“Tyler Durden” is as desperate as "Stefana Karinskaya."

Try not to be too butthurt, because it is well known you have a boner for the neocon weekend-Tyler, but it looks like one of the real Tylers had to come in to keep that idiot from crapping all over the site.

I wonder how much Kremlin has paid to these pathetic Kremlin propagandists

Whatever Brussels/Tel Aviv/Riyadh/Vichy DC is paying you, they're being overcharged.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 21:01 | 4466681 Paveway IV
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The weekend-Tyler doesn't seem to understand the distinction between the non-partisan Euromaidan movement and the very anti-Russian UDAR political party. The video has absolutely nothing to do with the anti-mafia government Euromaidan movement. The video only shows a fake-looking UDAR party rally or something. UDAR is the party with boxer guy that wants Ukraine to join the EU. 

Either the video is staged (poorly, I might add), or some seriously brain-damaged UDAR supporters intentionally chose a tiny, pro-Russain city right on the Kerch Strait - how Russia accesses the Black Sea - that's all of about 10 miles across the strait from the Russian border. Hardly the heart and soul of Ukraine. The otherwise boring town of Kerch did seem to appreciate the theatre - you can see the residents far back with big smiles on their faces. It's kind of like a tractor pull, only free.

This poor attempt at propaganda is all you guys can cough up? Kerch? Heh heh... Even the Ukrainians would think it's kind of funny if they were not otherwise busy burying their dead.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 04:36 | 4467374 Rock On Roger
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I had to give a +1 for tractor pull.

Stack On

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 16:05 | 4467705 RaceToTheBottom
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"Full Pull" in funny accent.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 21:10 | 4466703 Paveway IV
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"...Whatever Brussels/Tel Aviv/Riyadh/Vichy DC is paying you, they're being overcharged..."

Interesting how you keep bringing up Israel here, TheForthStooge-ing. They seem to be particularly interested in either breaking up Ukraine or Russian intervention for some reason. If anything, 'Tel Aviv' would be paying someone to shill YOUR line, not Cult's. 

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 00:59 | 4467187 Johnny Cocknballs
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If anything, 'Tel Aviv' would be paying someone to shill YOUR line, not Cult's.


No, you have that backwards.  And by the way, the neoconservatives, basically Zionist Hyper-Interventionists, absolutely want to weaken Russia.  There isn't any serious debate about that by anyone, regardless of political leanings, that actually knows anything about the matter.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 10:15 | 4467600 HardAssets
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Who knows whats going on behind the scenes. There's many pieces to the puzzle includng corrupt government, EU actions, neo con actions, natural gas pipelines, and even the petro dollar standard.

But here's an article on one aspect of the matter. How accurate is it ?  Who knows.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 13:20 | 4467933 earleflorida
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Sat, 02/22/2014 - 21:10 | 4466704 El Tuco
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Your desperation is can't help but respond to everyone of his posts. you and the boys taking turns? Must be a bummer that Putins boy got his ass handed to him. Putin is next...hopefully you commit suicide in a fit of depression....

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 22:21 | 4466884 TheFourthStooge-ing
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So are you the sock puppet on his left hand or the one on his right hand?

Wait, never mind, you're the sock puppet on his dung hand.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 03:42 | 4467330 Invinciblehandaxe
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hey cunt_of_trolling,

eat a dick bitch and get lost

you fucking ziocunt

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 06:26 | 4467444 The.Harmless.Who
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Do you actually have a point to make - and if so, care to elaborate?  


Or do you just want to troll and morph into a "Cunt of Reason"


You're free to go watch faux news and /or worship EU politicians, and / or lick your zionist masters' behinds clean.


What's it gonna be? 


Sun, 02/23/2014 - 12:38 | 4467824 pacific_waters
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HAve you cashed your check from Soros yet?

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:53 | 4466491 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Made me laugh. Just knowing your contributions to Ukraine linked threads was enough for me to burst into a fit of the laughings...

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:03 | 4466514 Atomizer
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Stefana Karinskaya is driving the EU liberation tow truck. The tires are smoking and she sees a new debt bag holder in plain sight. .

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:12 | 4466540 Haus-Targaryen
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Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:32 | 4466601 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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h-t... my ex wife is not even a part of this conversation so I really am thankfull for the support.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:53 | 4466659 denverdolomte
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I was enjoying this pleasant I'm cleaning it off my keyboard. Thanks.... hahaha

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 21:12 | 4466711 Anusocracy
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Took the expletives right out of my mouth.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:28 | 4466590 tony wilson
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cult you cunt el tuco whatever your name is are you jewish?

just askin bitch.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 21:13 | 4466712 El Tuco
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Fuck Tony are you retarded. Do we sound like we're Jewish.

Now go fuck yourself....

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 21:53 | 4466813 Anusocracy
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You didn't answer the question.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 00:43 | 4467163 Jack Burton
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No, the question was not answered. Anyways, this thread is amazing, I must read on!!!

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:11 | 4467202 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You are correct, Jack, the question wasn't answered, although he did confirm one thing:

Fuck Tony are you retarded. Do we sound like we're Jewish.

Sockpuppets are go!

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 00:28 | 4467138 pot_and_kettle
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Tony, Tony, Tony.. never elevate a twat to the status of a bitch. 

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:34 | 4466609 CrashisOptimistic
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From that map, it looks like Russia is so desperate they will get all the sea access and beach resorts -- and the EU will get Chernobyl.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:42 | 4466629 NoDebt
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Shhhh.  Don't tell anyone, but that's how I see it, too.  Russia and wam water ports is a thing with them since forever.  Also see goldhedge's comment, below.  He's right, too.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:42 | 4466634 superflex
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I think the votes show how ZH readers feel about cult and his foreskin.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 00:20 | 4467121 yatikto
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It will get ugly.  Some people from western Ukraine are uber nationalistic.

An anecdote:  my wife used to attend Ukrainian church.  Some people there if they heard russian language in song or whatever would walk out of the building.


I think putin made it clear that Ukraine is a red line,   Georgia was/is another one.


Whole thing is disgusting, and blood begets blood.


I'll pass on that popcorn.


Sun, 02/23/2014 - 00:26 | 4467132 pot_and_kettle
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more like fasten your seatbelt...

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:44 | 4466468 IridiumRebel
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Tell that to Northrop Grumman.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:52 | 4466487 DoChenRollingBearing
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No one in the West will go to war for the Ukraine.  Couldn't win anyway.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:57 | 4466498 TheFourthStooge-ing
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No one in the West will go to war for the Ukraine.

The West goes to war for the MIC and nobody else.

Couldn't win anyway.

The US hasn't won a war since WW2, yet it's always going to war.

That's because the MIC always wins.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:26 | 4466581 acetinker
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You are exactly right.  By chance, I had a visit with an old friend today who hails from Ukraine.  He's been a naturalized citizen for 20+ years.  So, I asked him; WTF is going on in Ukraine?  He simply said, "I don't know."

He did say however, that he came from lands nearer Poland than Kiev, and that he doesn't believe his former countrymen want to align with the EU.  He also said that things may have changed, but all Ukraine wanted was to be free- from Russia, from Poland, from everybody- when he grew up.

On previous visits he has confided that he left Ukraine for the promise of individual freedom in America.  When O-baah-ma got elected, he said, "No matter where I go to avoid socialism, I look around, and here it goes again."

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 21:19 | 4466729 Anusocracy
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The default mode for H. sapiens is socialism.


Sat, 02/22/2014 - 21:34 | 4466765 acetinker
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fkn lame 'we' are for that, no?

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 02:47 | 4467295 UselessEater
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Default mode is concentrated power in a few hands with great risk/loss to the rest.

as an ex-Zimbabwean soon to be an ex-Australian I find whatever the ideology is called the end results are increasingly similar.... suddenly this planet is too damn small without a nook for peacefully being left alone.


Sun, 02/23/2014 - 04:52 | 4467379 Rock On Roger
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Where is the next ex?

Stack On

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 22:05 | 4469443 acetinker
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Truer words have never been spoken.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 22:00 | 4466832 garypaul
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Look, someone has to say it. Everyone who immigrates to the West (myself included) comes here for the money, Everyone knows it's an Orwellian police state otherwise around here. These immigrants then visit their home countries where they can relax and be free for a short while (since they now have some money) before returning to work in the West.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 02:54 | 4467300 Freddie
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The EU/ECB and USA/Fed/NWO would be a horrible choice but sadly we or the Ukrainians never get to choose.

It appeasr the goal for the NWO, oligarchs like Soros and the elite bankster families is to get everyone to be a debt slave and to buy weapons from MIC.  Make everyone debt slaves to the NWO.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:30 | 4466591 disabledvet
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really? I'm no fan of "interventions" and i do agree "a wickedly unfair fight comes this way." Certainly Europe isn't going to do anything...which makes Russia blaming Europe for all this a little odd. I do give Putin and Co. and clear cut victory on name calling btw. He called the Europeans "Colonists"...which i thought was definitely a perfect 10 on Disabledvet's "Smack Talk Scale." I also agree "the Americans are capitalists first" so if someone merely gets up on the protest stand and says "Free Cash Discounted here!" that'll probably bring an entire Legion. All seriousness aside here but the one thing that does stand out is that the "Ukranian" Russians seems very far away from the Russian Russians. As they say on Wall Street..."you just can't get there from here." Putin is a resourceful bugger it should be one hell of Closing Ceremony. "Perhaps the longest ever in Olympic history."

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 22:50 | 4466959 Volkodav
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Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:02 | 4467189 Johnny Cocknballs
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Jesus you're naive.  Destabilization has its fruits.


And its profits.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 10:18 | 4467606 TheObsoleteMan
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The US should keep out? Who the phuk do you think is behind much of this? This is another one their "Spring" revolutions. Notice the timing of all of this: Right after the US Syrian debacle, when Putin dared to stand up to the aggressors. Next they will come for him.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:46 | 4466476 lolmao500
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Jugoslavia uh...

'I stopped World War Three by refusing US orders to destroy Russian forces,' claims James Blunt
Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:44 | 4466640 Urban Redneck
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WorldWar-mongering Wesley, who likes to pretend he's anti Mic/NeoCon/Bankster, except when he's comitting crimes against humanity in the Balkans, sitting on a Central European Equivilent of CFR (GPF) which has got to be neck deep in Ukranian shit right now, or hanging out with his vulture capital buds in Geneva (which has been conveniently sanitized from his WikiShit bio).

But yet he has a quite a following among the low-info segment of the ZH family...

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 21:25 | 4466745 Calmyourself
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A like mind on Wesley, thank you my faith in humanity restored, he is a whaleshit low bastard.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 22:51 | 4466964 Urban Redneck
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But wait, there's more...

Adding insult (and Vampire Squid tentacles) to injury:

For anyone who has worked in the Bankster complex... compare the average bankster brain function to a Supreme NATO dipshit who graduated first in class from Westpoint- HE SCORED AN 86 ON HIS SERIES 62, AFTER STUDYING How the fuck does someone miss 16 realtively easy multiple choice questions out of 115?

Then there's his FINRA Broker Check report

But strangely there is no mention in the Other Business Activities section of the Swiss Private Equity fund that lists him as being serving on the Strategic Advisory Board... (If only he had even entry-level experience .gov paperwork... perhaps if he wasn't also an adviser to Goldman- then a charitable/religious exemption for "doing God's work" in private equity might apply.)
Employment History
Employment Dates Employer Name
Employer Location
05/2010 - Present UGR, LLC WASHINGTON, DC
02/2006 - Present RODMAN & RENSHAW, LLC NEW YORK, NY
07/2000 - 02/2006 STEPHENS INC LITTLE ROCK, AR
Other Business Activities
This section includes information, if any, as provided by the broker regarding other business activities the broker is currently engaged in either as a proprietor, partner, officer, director, employee, trustee, agent or otherwise. This section does not include non-investment related activity that is exclusively charitable, civic, religious or fraternal and is recognized as tax exempt.

And there's the Wired profile that makes him sound like the second coming of the ShamWow guy...

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:06 | 4467196 Johnny Cocknballs
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I junked you for absurdly under-estimating the intelligence of anyone who graduates top of their class at West Point.


And as a point of reference, McCain graduated at the bottom.


Banksters aren;t "smart"  -they're clever at a rigged game.


Dump 100 of the world's smartest bankers in the middle of the forest without any phones or other technology....  to steal a line from Joe Rogan...    how long before they can send me a text message?


They can not build or create anything.  They can not solve any problems.  They are magicians of debt.


And that is all they are.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 10:19 | 4467526 Urban Redneck
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Touched a nerve with the alma matter? Does a West Point grad need a sarc tag, like they need an NCO to find their ass with both hands on a Land Nav course?

Bankers have conquered countries more without a firing shot than West Point grads ever have or ever will.

And the Sheeple thank banksters for it, unlike the equally productive military.

The world isn't manipulated by those at the middle or bottom of the bell curve.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 12:42 | 4467832 pacific_waters
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Get your facts straight. McCain was Navy, that's Annapolis, not the Point.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 00:02 | 4467093 Tim_
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Wesley Clark is a jew.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 21:09 | 4466701 Jlasoon
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Good on him for refusing sadistic suicidal orders from Wesley Clark. 

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:15 | 4467205 Johnny Cocknballs
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Clark is smart, but also arrogant, myopic and dangerous:

Thank God the British has the sense to refuse that order.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:16 | 4466531 Brutlstrudl
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Sat, 02/22/2014 - 22:31 | 4466902 silvermail
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Now in Ukraine there will be freedom!

And the first freedom in Ukraine - will be freedom from all their gold reserves!

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:38 | 4467236 Buck Johnson
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Big time, I think whoever decided to push this for the President is making or has made a massive mistake.  The Russians know that the US and the EU is trying to destabilize their sphere of control.  These idiots are pushing us toward war.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:36 | 4466454 Wile-E-Coyote
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Yeah and they are probably fucking right.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:37 | 4466456 magpie
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It's like the Christians and Alevites in Syria welcoming Obama's revolution...can't blame people with a death wish.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:34 | 4466608 disabledvet
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just something about these people...
just seems familiar to me...

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:41 | 4466461 goldhedge
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A new land locked `Ukraine`


Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:44 | 4466462 lolmao500
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Tymoshenko is one evil bitch. That CIA puppet should STFU already before she triggers WW3 with her BS...

Not to mention, Ukrainians aren't fucking interested by her BS since she's a known corrupt witch.

And ``WILL HELP OTHER COUNTRIES UNDER `DICTATORS'`` is that a message to Putin concerning Belarus and Russia? Hell yeah it is.


Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:03 | 4467191 StychoKiller
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One should never twist the tiger's tail...

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:41 | 4466463 IridiumRebel
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This was solved! What happened? I thought everyone just kissed and made up and went local news said all is well. After the 12 second soundbyte about Ukraine being "good" again they had a 7 minute piece about potholes...

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:26 | 4466582 Winston Churchill
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They meant Ukraine was about to be turned into a pothole.

Just hope Putin counts to ten before acting.

If I was him, I would be pretty pissed about now.

Anyways a landlocked Ukraine will suit him just fine.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:41 | 4466464 Kirk2NCC1701
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And here I thought that Wall St banksters were 'revolting'.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:45 | 4466470 ThroxxOfVron
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Sweet Jesus, Woman!  -Have the hospital meds clouded your mind?

IMHO, openly fucking with Putin is WAY overplaying your hand at the moment.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:39 | 4466626 disabledvet
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"this is what Europe wanted."

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 22:34 | 4466906 silvermail
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The U.S. goal in the Ukraine is simple and clear:

They want to put the Turkish troops (NATO) on the faucet of pipe with gas to Germany and all Europe.
This will give the U.S. an opportunity to firmly keep Germany and all of Europe by the throat.
After that, the U.S. may submit any big claims to Germany, as well any  blackmail and fuck the whole of Europe, as they want.

I am very, very surprised that Mrs Merkel, does not understand this.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 22:37 | 4466919 silvermail
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Europe can not survive without gas that flows through pipelines in Ukraine. Everything else - it only empty words and attempt to justify Merkel, who already received check and mate from Washington, via gas pipeline on the Ukraine.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 22:44 | 4466938 silvermail
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Chinese can build any gas and oil pipelines from Russia to China, faster than you can spit.
I do not know how all it will end. But I know exactly, that for Europe, all it will end very badly.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 05:13 | 4467389 August
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>>>I do not know how all it will end. But I know exactly, that for Europe, all it will end very badly.

It may not "end" badly for Germany and select neighbors if they were to, ultimately, get in touch with their own inner Cossack, throw out US occupying forces and join with Russia in a Co-Dominion of Eurasia.  Airstrip One and the French have feared this for centuries....

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 05:35 | 4467408 Volkodav
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Yes...Germany and Russia...

btw...there is more German dna in certain Russian oblast than Germany average.

Katerine brought many..

Governor of Tomsk Oblast is German

many more..

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 09:28 | 4467556 BearClaw
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Plenty of Russian DNA in Germany as well...Berlin in particular.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 10:15 | 4467601 silvermail
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"It may not "end" badly for Germany and select neighbors if they were to, ultimately, get in touch with their own inner Cossack, throw out US occupying forces and join with Russia in a Co-Dominion of Eurasia."

The main objective of the United States - is to prevent rapprochement between Germany and Russia. And right now, the U.S. successfully solved this problem. Because Europe in the face of its leaders, has turned into vassals and lackeys of Washington.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:17 | 4467208 Johnny Cocknballs
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Don't forget Israel's hopes and dreams of selling gas from Leviathan to Europe [and preventing the Iranians from building a pipeline through Syria to the Med.]


ZH loves to talk about "Qatari pipelines" but leaves out the much more important Leviathan field, and the related desire to stop the Iran-Iraq-Syria line....

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:33 | 4467226 silvermail
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"ZH loves to talk about "Qatari pipelines" but leaves out the much more important Leviathan field, and the related desire to stop the Iran-Iraq-Syria line...."

You forgot to mention the huge gas fields, which have recently been found in the sea near Cyprus.
Why Germany has put Cyprus on his knees? In order to be able easy to capture this gas.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 01:48 | 4467248 Johnny Cocknballs
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Leviathan.  I mentioned it. 


That's what the fucking post was about, mate.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 02:10 | 4467271 silvermail
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I'm sorry, I did not know the exact name of the field.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 02:35 | 4467289 Johnny Cocknballs
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It's okay.   I still love you.

And let's never fight again.


Not when we have the likes of Cunt of Treason and FlakeMistress to deal with.


Sun, 02/23/2014 - 03:47 | 4467339 Freddie
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Check out Gazprom's web site.  They have pipelines running through the Black Sea and the Balkans that totally bypass the Ukraine. 

The Balkans pipeline goes up to Austria and Northern Italy.   The Black Sea pipeline goes through southern Italy.  I think there is also a third pipeline that goes up to Scandinavia.

Probably the biggest losers would be Poland and Germany.  I think Germany might be able to get gas from the pipeline in Austria.

I think the Ukraine breaks in half and the Western side that may foolishly want to join the EU becomes a landlock country and debt slaves of the NWO.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 04:26 | 4467367 Villageidiot777
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There is a straight pipeline from Russia to Germany, http:// . That might be the third you were thinking of.

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 05:53 | 4467426 trader1
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you must not have received the memo on Nordstream...

Sun, 02/23/2014 - 16:49 | 4468569 Flakmeister
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Did you ever think silvermail would be a go-to guy for anything of relevance? Wild-eyed conspiracy ideation seems to be his forte....

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:52 | 4466654 Uncle Remus
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Braid is too tight...

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 21:53 | 4466816 Whoa Dammit
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She does have a bad case of Heidi hair.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:46 | 4466475 bigrooster
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It is hard at times to take sides here.  However I just wish that both sides had guns to make this a little more interesting.  This rock and fist throwing is getting boring. 

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:49 | 4466479 Atomizer
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Those special OP snipers must have been figured out. No one had placed a contract out except the photo above. Would have loved to see that twatter exchange.



Not us

Are you fucking kidding me

We thought it was you


Etc., etc.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 19:53 | 4466485 americanspirit
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Time for a Red Line from our fearless leader - that should re-establish peace and tranquility.

Oh, wait a minute - there is already a red line. It's Russian tank formations moving across the Eastern Ukraine border.

Look mommy - a red line that moves! Really fast too!

Wasn't it Putin who said "Fuck the EU"? No? Well , it might as well have been.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:05 | 4466518 nmewn
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The Boy King better get his A-Game on, maybe do another hard pivot. Damned shame he's been firing competent generals & admirals left and right, to cover his own ass, power or sumpin.

The dogs of war are awakening Barry, its 3:00AM ;-)

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:12 | 4466543 TheFourthStooge-ing
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It's 3:00 AM, Barry, and you need to get out of the middle of that man sandwich between John McCain and Lindsey Graham. BTW, nobody takes you seriously in your Doctor Denton pajamas and bunny slippers.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:21 | 4466562 Atomizer
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It's 3:00 AM, and Hussein Obama II is sucking down a reggie hotdog.

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:33 | 4466604 nmewn
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lol...thats about right.

You did bring Tymoshenko's gas deal with Russia to my attention, it was not in the best interests of her countrymen.

So thanks for that.

Politicians & Game of Thrones type people are usually pretty pliable, corrupt people, not sure if she's an inept bargainer or corrupt herself (see her association with former Premier Pavlo Lazarenko, now sitting in jail here in the US) either way at this point, she's not statesman-like-leadership material.

Revolutionary, yeah, anyone can do that...but it takes brains & honesty to run a country ;-)

Sat, 02/22/2014 - 20:48 | 4466648 disabledvet
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again ..."don't underestimate this guy."

I know it's verbotten in these here parts to say "he's got Street Cred"...but when it comes to the world stage...he's got Street Cred bro's.

Let me put it another way: "he's Syria a bastion of goodwill and hope once the Americans let the Russians win?" They're plinkin' UN peacekeepers out that way.

Not one but two Egyptian Presidents? Ghadaffi's dick on his wall? OBL?

Cyprus turned out great for Europe of course.
I think the fear indeed is that the USA really does do something actually. And yes..."I'll be against it but i will support the President"...just as I did with Syria. Needless to say it's hard to call me his biggest fan.

"that's called Street Cred too."

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